1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: What's the lead story today. 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: Do you ever wonder why you pronounced the G twice 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 2: in the word longevity? 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 3: Casey, I was told there was no grand Jerry. I 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 3: was told it didn't exist. 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: According to some news outlets, that's not the case. 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 3: I was told. We were lying, we were making it 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: all up. 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 4: It was a plot, some bizarre plot to get the 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 4: Lieutenant governor and then lo and behold, yesterday the indie 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 4: star Fox fifty nine, you know, basically every media out 12 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 4: in the city reported that exactly as we had said 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 4: for months, that there is a grand jury along with 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 4: the Marion Kenny Prosecutor's office, who is not only looking 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 4: into the Lieutenant Governor Michah Beckwitt in his office, but 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 4: they're looking into them for the exact things we said 17 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 4: that they were looking into them for, which is artificial intelligence, pornography, 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 4: and ghost employment. 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: That's correct, and so oh we were right. 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 4: No apologies from anyone in the Micah beck With camp, 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 4: who repeatedly tried to deny that this. Look, it's not 22 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 4: even the thing, right, it's the deception and the manipulation. 23 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 4: And that's what you get from Micah and his orbit 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 4: is denials, deception, manipulation and Micah beck With and this 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 4: this pains me. You go through stages of grief on 26 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 4: something like this, and I've reached the point now where 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 4: I'm numb, numb to it and I just simply want 28 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 4: justice at this point, like I've finally accepted what he is, 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: because when you go through this and someone that you 30 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 4: were so Look, Micah beck With at one point was 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 4: at least I thought, and now in hindsight believe I 32 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 4: was just being used the entire time. But Micah beckw With, 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 4: I perceived as one of my closest friends at one point, 34 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 4: my pastor, he married my wife, and I, I mean, 35 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 4: I thought the world of the guy. But what became 36 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: abundantly clear to me is that the guy is a 37 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 4: habitual liar. He's highly fraudulent, and I couldn't simply ignore 38 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 4: that and what he was doing in his role as 39 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 4: the Lieutenant Governor of the State of Indiana, the second 40 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 4: highest ranking official in the state of Indiana, because at 41 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 4: one point I thought he was my friend or my buddy, 42 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 4: and I just refused to do that. And look, I'd 43 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 4: eat a lot of crow on this because I don't 44 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 4: like any of these people. I make a living out 45 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 4: of holding these people accountable. And the guy that I 46 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 4: put up on a perch and said this is the 47 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 4: one guy everybody can believe and trust in proved to 48 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 4: maybe be the worst of them them all. 49 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 3: And for a. 50 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 4: Prideful person such as myself hard that was a hard 51 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 4: thing to do. But the onus to the is to 52 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 4: the audience. My obligation is to our audience who gives 53 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 4: up their time to listen to us every day. And 54 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: the obligation had to be to say, Ooka, I know 55 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 4: this stuff is going on. I know why it's going on. 56 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 4: I'm not going to hide it from you. I have 57 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: to tell you about these things that we are seeing 58 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 4: and that and that we are we are going through. 59 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 4: And what became very obvious once Micah got elected is 60 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 4: I describe him essentially as an American Greed character. American 61 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 4: Greed is this documentary style show on CNBC. It's been 62 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 4: on for years and basically what they do is they 63 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 4: report on famous uh in most cases criminals who deceive people, 64 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 4: defraud the amount of money, you know, and they're and 65 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: they're they're conmon right, And in the case of Micah, 66 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 4: I don't think he's he didn't take any of my money. 67 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: But the deception, the level of deception, the type of deception, 68 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 4: the the way that they manipulate people and they con people, 69 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: or he cons people into thinking he's something he's not, 70 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 4: is exactly the same. It's not not committing a financial crime. 71 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 4: But he is the best I've ever seen at convincing 72 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: people that he is something he is not, and he 73 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 4: has gotten away with it for so long that he's 74 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 4: gotten so good at it that even when presented with 75 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 4: irrefutable evidence this was going on, like I had talked 76 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 4: to multiple people who had given information to the Marion 77 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 4: County Prosecutor's Office. 78 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: Well, Representative Craig Haggard has confirmed he was interviewed by 79 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: the Marion County Prosecutor's Office. 80 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 4: And yet he was so good at lying and so 81 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 4: habitually apparently addicted to it that even now he and 82 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 4: his step I mean, this clown that talked to Indie 83 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: Star Graham, what's his face still wouldn't come off even 84 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 4: in Indie Star. And then these other media outlets have 85 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 4: these irrefutable documents that the grand jury investigation is going 86 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 4: on exactly as we said it was going on, they 87 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 4: still won't come off that this is taking place. I 88 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 4: want to read this guy's quote because it is everything 89 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 4: about Micah Beckwith and his orbit in one quote. So 90 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 4: again Indie Star Fox fifty nine running this story that 91 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 4: is now irrefutable evidence has come out that a grandeur 92 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 4: exists looking into Micah Beckwood's office documentation related to artificial intelligence, 93 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 4: pornography and ghost employment, and his quote to The Indie 94 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 4: Star in their article Graham Loft heat is that how 95 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 4: you say his last name long l O U G 96 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 4: H E A D. That's the guy. He's listed as 97 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 4: a spokesman. When we're feed with this irrefutable evidence that 98 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 4: this is going on, and again, no one ever said 99 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: that a grand jury means an indictment is coming, right, 100 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 4: no one ever said a grand jury means a conviction 101 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 4: is coming. We have simply said everybody knows this is 102 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 4: going on. And even when presented with the evidence, he 103 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 4: said quote active grand juries are confidential. 104 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 3: Therefore the office has no knowledge of this. 105 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 4: So everyone and their brother can look at this and 106 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: see this is going on. And when presented with this, 107 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 4: you go, well, that's confidential. We have no knowledge of this. No, 108 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: this is public. This has gotten out into the public. 109 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 4: Everybody's reporting on it. But that's the orbit. It's deflect, deny, deceive. 110 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 4: Think about just on this case, how many conflicting statements 111 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 4: we've caught Mike in. So he spends in I believe 112 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 4: this was March. So Tom Labianco is this freelance journalist 113 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 4: who broke this story July August, whenever it was, and 114 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 4: in I think March, Lobianco was hired to work on 115 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 4: a piece for a media organization about Micah beckw with 116 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 4: and he contacts Micah, and Micah agrees to allow this 117 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 4: guy to spend a whole day with him. He's in 118 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 4: the car, he goes to the events with them, like 119 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: they're around each other for an entire day. It wasn't 120 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 4: like the guy asked one question in passing, he went 121 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: on merry way. And yet when the story surfaced, Micah 122 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 4: immediately moves into attack mode of this, you know, an 123 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 4: anonymous journalist or I don't know who this guy is 124 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 4: or this this this per I don't I'm I don't 125 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 4: know who this is, and like it's you're going, I know, 126 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 4: you spent an entire day with this guy and his 127 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 4: name is all over this stuff. But in the Micaeh 128 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 4: orbit because if I say it, I've always gotten away 129 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 4: with it, then. 130 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: I'll just do that. 131 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 4: Then he tries to say I found out about the 132 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: allegations about AI pornography from Lo Bianco. Well, l'abianco told 133 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 4: us on this program. He said, no, Oh, Micah told 134 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 4: me that he found out from an employee in the 135 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 4: treasurer's office. These may sound like little lies or little untruths, 136 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 4: or little conflicting statements, but when you put them all together, 137 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: just like how did he end up in Game three 138 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 4: of the NBA Finals with the high profile known felon. 139 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 4: When it's one conflicting statement or lie or deception after another, 140 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 4: you put them together and you realize this is a 141 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 4: pattern of a behavior from this guy. He is a habitual, 142 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 4: pathological liar who will say or do anything to save himself. 143 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 4: He will throw anyone under the bus. He has harmed 144 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 4: several people who did nothing but try to help him. 145 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 4: He has caused them great grief and consternation and expense 146 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 4: to do the right thing, and he doesn't. 147 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: Give a damn. 148 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 4: That's who Micah beck with is a person who only 149 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 4: cares about himself and will throw anybody under the bus. 150 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 4: He has to and will lie about anything he has 151 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 4: to to try to make himself look better. The problem 152 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 4: is now everybody's onto it. 153 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: There have been no indictments, have been now charges At 154 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: this point, where is the governor on this? It is 155 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: the Braun Beckwith administration. 156 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: That's a great question casey because Mike Braun knows exactly 157 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 4: what he is too. But because Mike Braun is such 158 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 4: and were talked about this yesterday. Uh with Braun Bron's 159 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 4: a very meager, timid person. He's a coward, He's gutless. 160 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 4: Go back to January sixth. He was a real billy 161 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 4: badass on the election, the issues with the election, and 162 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 4: we gotta not certify the election, and we got to 163 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: stand up and we gotta this, and we got that 164 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 4: until some people went into the Capitol building then all 165 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 4: of a sudden, well, I guess none of that happened. 166 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 4: Let's just sign off and get out of here. Mike 167 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 4: Brown showed who he was on that day and this 168 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: is how he's handled Micah. Mike Brown is petrified to 169 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 4: stand up to Micah because he's worried about the people 170 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 4: in Micah's orbit coming at him. Mike Braun craves acceptance, 171 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 4: He craves being liked, and he is pathetic scared of 172 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: his lieutenant governor and even though he knows exactly what 173 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 4: he is, will not stand up to him. 174 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,359 Speaker 1: It is the Kendall and Case Show. It's ninety three WIBC. 175 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 3: That's a lot of money to pay for a TV station. 176 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, media landscape in Indianapolis changing, isn't it? 177 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: Eighty three million dollar deal? This is like wild? 178 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 4: Yeah that the folks who own wish TV, who has 179 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 4: our news gathering partner, have announced that they have purchased 180 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 4: WRTV six, which is the ABC affiliate has been for 181 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 4: I think my entire life here in Indianapolis, for a 182 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 4: staggering eighty three million dollars strategic investment. 183 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 2: It looks like because with WRTV now, Circle City is 184 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: going to gain access to all the ABC programming, which 185 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: includes the NBA, w NBA and some college football broadcasts. 186 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: It's fascinating. 187 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 4: Now I'm very excited because I just expect to see 188 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 4: the our friend Phil Sanchez on all the newscasts all 189 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 4: the time. 190 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 3: Now. 191 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the anchor for wish TV, and now we 192 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: can just see him simulcast on ABC and look forward 193 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 4: to just all fill all the time on all my 194 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 4: television channels. Yeah, but it's fascinating because when I was 195 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 4: a kid growing up until what I don't know, maybe 196 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 4: it's ten years ago, at Camera Hung and Penn. 197 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: Wish TV was the CBS affiliate. 198 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 4: And then ultimately they ended over ended up flipping over 199 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 4: to was TTV four. When I was a kid, channel 200 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: Channel four, CBS four as it's called now, which is 201 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 4: owned by the same people won Fox fifty nine. And 202 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 4: so now the one who owns Circle City Broadcasting is 203 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: the company's name, right, was gonna get another cracket owning 204 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 4: owning in the network affiliate. In terms of being with ABC. 205 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 4: It is interesting too, how now you're going to have 206 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 4: how television in this city is sort of mirroring radio 207 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 4: in which a couple of companies are owning the majority 208 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 4: of the properties. You've got CBS and four and Fox 209 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 4: fifteen nine owned by the same people. You'll have Wish 210 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 4: TV and WRTV owned by the same people. So you're 211 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 4: really sort of seeing the same thing in our business 212 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 4: now happening over in television. 213 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: So this acquisition is going to add WRTV two Circle 214 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 2: City's existing lineup. 215 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: As you mentioned they have Wish TV. 216 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: They also have my INDIETV twenty three and Circulus Digital Media, 217 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: and they say that this is going to strengthen their 218 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: local media presence and enhance the value to the viewer 219 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 2: and their advertisers. 220 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: And you got to wonder. 221 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: WRTV has that building which is on Meridian Street in Indianapolis. 222 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: Now is we's going to move over there? 223 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 4: And it is fascinating And this is more your world 224 00:12:55,840 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 4: because you were on television for years. But when whenever 225 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 4: these purchases happen, the immediate response is, well, how's it 226 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 4: going to affect the employees? 227 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 3: Right? 228 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: How does this affect me? That's everyone's first response with 229 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: anything sure. 230 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 4: And so when Urban One bought WIBC, we were chuckling 231 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 4: because all the people said. 232 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: Well, that's it for WIBC. They're done. 233 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 4: Get ready for it to be uh, you know, Spanish 234 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 4: come one day. And we were like, Yeah, these guys 235 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 4: like money, and we make a lot of money. I 236 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 4: think we'll be fine and to it. And not only 237 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 4: in fine. We love working for these guys. And from 238 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 4: the extent of we never hear from them. They're like, 239 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 4: just keep the ratings high, in the revenue flow and it. 240 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 4: You'll be just fine because money. 241 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: It's pretty good agreement. 242 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: Money is the universal language, right, that is that. 243 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: So it will be fascinating to see what changes though 244 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 4: come to WRTV, because let's face it, you're sort of 245 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 4: bound and again you can correct me if I'm wrong 246 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 4: on this. TV's your your area of expertise, but you're 247 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 4: sort of bound by certain programming, right like your ABC. 248 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: Well, sure, there's obviously the syndicated contracts, and many times 249 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: those contracts will say you have to air this program 250 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 2: within a certain amount of time. 251 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: I don't foresee a whole lot of changes in regards to. 252 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 4: That, right, So that's where I come to how much 253 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 4: can you actually tinker with the network affiliate in terms 254 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 4: of you know, you can't quote unquote flip the format 255 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 4: per se. No, So is it really unlike radio or 256 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: you can come and do basically whatever you want to 257 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 4: do with it? It almost is, And I think it 258 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 4: was alluded to this Presley's it's really strengthening the brand itself. 259 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: Right now I. 260 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 4: Have this other mega property to put with what I 261 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: had before, and you know, you probably will be able 262 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 4: to overlap certain you know, certain services overlap. You'll be 263 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 4: able to condense those save you know, a few dollars here, 264 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 4: a few dollars there. But I don't think you're going 265 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: to see some wholesale change to WRTV six. 266 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: No. 267 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,359 Speaker 1: I doubt that. 268 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: What they might be able to do is if they 269 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: had to preempt certain programming, they could put it on 270 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: the other station. More than anything, what I would gather 271 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: has happen is because they'll have more synergy there, they'll 272 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: get rid of redundancies, and oftentimes that affects. 273 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: The non on air departments. 274 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, more like you know, the collections department or possibly 275 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: the the HR department, because they won't need multiple people 276 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: when one person could do the job. 277 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, this is what I figured out in 278 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 4: this business. It took me a while to figure it out. 279 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 4: What do you call it? The PEDA level? Yeah, pain 280 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 4: in the ass level. Oh you said it, Well you 281 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 4: can say that. I'm still problem with that. 282 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, your your PEDA level should never be higher than 283 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: your worth. 284 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, the the and and I'm the best example of this, 285 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: right pretty much. I have a like, I'm very high 286 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 4: on the on the amount of drama I cause. 287 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: For the the the New York co hubs. 288 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: Well, I was gonna say, the muckety bucks here, you know, 289 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 4: the about them, the big tim But I bring a 290 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 4: lot of good qualities to this station too, and that 291 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 4: you like, you accept that when you bring someone like 292 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 4: me on board, You're like, Okay, we're going a lot 293 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 4: of complaint phone calls about this guy, but we also 294 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 4: get a lot of traction, a lot of attention because 295 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 4: of this guy. And I never do anything that would 296 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 4: be you know, untoward in terms of the rules and 297 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 4: regulations by which we are forced to play by here, 298 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 4: and the drama I bring is just mostly telling politicians 299 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 4: exactly what I think of them and them not not 300 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 4: like but. 301 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: But same thing. 302 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: As long as our listeners engage enough, it makes you 303 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: worth it. 304 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 4: And television, while like being the nightly newscaster is a 305 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: different game, it's sort of the same thing, right, Like, Okay, 306 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 4: I got a pay X, but we get why based 307 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 4: on people tuning in because this person does a good 308 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 4: job doing the news or the reporting or the weather 309 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 4: or whatever it might be. And so the the you're saying, 310 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 4: the staffing, the way they do things really ain't all that. 311 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: Much different, No, probably not. 312 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: We get to have more fun here, though always more 313 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 3: fun than television. 314 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: I actually I watched WRTV in the morning. 315 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: That's my station that I put on in the morning 316 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: because they're anchor. 317 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: Kendall cousin Kendall. 318 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: Kendall's all around all the time. 319 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. You know what's funny. 320 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 4: When I started here, WISH WRTV was our news gathering partner. 321 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 4: They worked with WRTV before. I don't know, it's been 322 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 4: several years now. We ended up partnering over with WISH, 323 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 4: and so now maybe we'll all be one big, happy family. 324 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: Well that's a decision for someone above our pay grade. 325 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 3: Is that's right. 326 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 4: I don't want to ever get paid to make any 327 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 4: decisions ever, aget except for the fact that, look, Casey, 328 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 4: think about what we have coming up next. Yeah, first 329 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 4: of all, you have the dynamic, vivacious, incredibly talented Jarret 330 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 4: Loose with the news and that'll probably knock your socks off. 331 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 4: And then yeah, Jim Merritt is going to join us. 332 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, y u RC interviews going on, it's going on. 333 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: We got to talk about the special session that's coming. 334 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 4: We're gonna get to some of this Mica stuff. It 335 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 4: is going to be just a wild and wacky morning 336 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 4: here on the Kennel and Casey Show. 337 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: It's ninety three w IBC. 338 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 3: Lisa, Well, there's so much we can use your expertise 339 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 3: for today. Well, Robert, good morning, dealers choice. I'll let 340 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 3: you decide where to go. It's Kelly Casey showing. 341 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 4: Rob Casey's here thirty years Ndianason at the Great Jim Merritt. Hello, Hello, 342 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 4: Now you're very You're dressed to the nines today because 343 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 4: you're doing these I U I U r C interviews. 344 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're a nominating committee for UH to give some 345 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 5: opportunity to the governor on who he should pick for 346 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 5: the three spots on the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission. 347 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 4: Now you'll be there with your suit. I saw yesterday 348 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 4: you were looking very menacingly at the interviewees as you 349 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 4: would ask them questions. 350 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: I'm kidding. 351 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 5: It's it's very it's it's not intense, it's it's it's 352 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 5: just it's a grind gas law. 353 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 3: But it's fascinating stuff, especially if you're a government nerd. 354 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 5: But then you enjoy energy. I enjoy which is the 355 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 5: topic of every day. 356 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 4: I enjoy having energy, which we keep up with these 357 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 4: data centers. We may not have any but anyway, UH Okay, 358 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 4: let's start with the Lieutenant governor. Obviously, that was our 359 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 4: lead story today that came out Indie Star, variety of 360 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 4: other outlets saying what we've been saying for months now, 361 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 4: that there's a grand jury looking in to the Micah 362 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 4: beck with in the office of the Lieutenant Governor. Now 363 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 4: we have said on this program, this is ridiculous how 364 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 4: the Lieutenant govern has handled this, which is basically to 365 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 4: be combative about anybody that suggested this was going on, 366 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 4: because a grand jury doesn't mean an indictment, and an 367 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 4: indictment doesn't mean a conviction. But when you are so 368 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 4: ridiculous about even acknowledging something exists, then you look like 369 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 4: a complete fool and dishonest and deceptive. When the articles 370 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 4: started coming out about the thing existing. 371 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 5: And we've been talking about this for some time, and 372 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 5: you know, I think I have and many others have 373 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 5: had problems with crime and Marion County and what goes 374 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 5: on in the prosecutor's office and and the idea of 375 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 5: the you know, the revolving door. If you look back 376 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 5: on the Willie Horton UH a problem back way back 377 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 5: thirty forty years ago, and UH with George Bush and 378 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 5: Michael Dukaka is running for president. And so you know, 379 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 5: the revolving door that we've always talked about at in 380 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 5: the Marion County Prosecutor's office is alive and well as 381 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 5: an issue. But the Lieutenant governor not handling this correctly 382 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 5: because there's there's emergency communications and how you handle these situations, 383 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 5: and they've handled it so terribly. 384 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 4: Robert Well the biggest Okay so and again Indie Star 385 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 4: other outlets reporting, as we've told you on this program 386 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 4: for months, that the grand Jury and the Marie County 387 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 4: Prosecutors is looking into AI porn allegations, they're looking into 388 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 4: ghost employment allegations. There have been multiple, many meetings of 389 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 4: this grand jury, according to documents that have become available. 390 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 4: But Mike's biggest problem is he loves to hear himself talk. 391 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 3: And this goes back to. 392 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 4: As soon as he got in office and the stuff 393 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 4: with the car where anytimes I want sticks a microphone 394 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 4: or camera in his face, he's got to talk. And 395 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: he has talked himself into so many corners now because 396 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 4: he is a habitual liar and he cannot keep his 397 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 4: lies straight, and in this case, he's made himself just 398 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 4: look foolish again. 399 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 5: Well in this case, also, they're not doing this at 400 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 5: the Marion County Prosecutor's Office just for political purposes. 401 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 3: They can't do that. 402 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 5: And grand juries have to be locked down tight in confidentiality, 403 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 5: and so they're not going to have to spend the 404 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 5: resources for people to come in and serve on this 405 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 5: grand jury. Isn't There's got to be some fire behind 406 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 5: that smoke. 407 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's always no matter what happens with Micah, 408 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 4: it's never his fault, and he has so many of 409 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 4: these people. Look, I think they want to believe, and 410 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 4: I think a big part of it is because of 411 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 4: what he did before he was lieutenant governor. I think 412 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 4: that there's a lot of people who refuse to believe 413 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 4: that someone who professes their faith the way that Micah has. 414 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 3: I don't. 415 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to doubt his faith, but I'm saying 416 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: the guy as a politician is a complete scumbag. And 417 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 4: the idea that all these people just, no matter what 418 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 4: the thing is, hey ends up with this high profile 419 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 4: known felon at the NBA Finals and can't tell a 420 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 4: straight story about it. A guy who's done some pretty 421 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 4: ridiculous stuff. Well, there's an excuse for that. The stuff 422 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 4: with the car, like all of this stuff, it's always 423 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 4: well that somebody's out to get him. 424 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: So it's a conspiracy against him. It's political. 425 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 4: And I've seen it with this stuff too, and it's like, no, 426 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 4: it's that he in his office I have been alleged 427 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 4: to have operated in a fashion that is not in 428 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 4: line with how the office is supposed to operate when 429 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 4: you're a state wide office holder. 430 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 3: And so they're looking into it. It's that simple, it is. 431 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 5: And you know, another on another plateau on this whole situation, 432 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 5: when I think it was Harry Truman said, if you're 433 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 5: in Washington, don't get you don't have friends, get a dog. Well, well, 434 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 5: the Indiana State legislature, in the state House itself is 435 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 5: a is an enormous family. Republican and Democrats not so 436 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 5: much anymore. But but you need your friends to have 437 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 5: that security net around you, to be there when you fall. 438 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 3: And and and. 439 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 5: Watching a lieutenant governor last year or so, I don't 440 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 5: think those friends are there now and and and uh, 441 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 5: there are so many situations that he's confronted with now 442 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 5: by just guilt by association or his friends or or 443 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 5: his office. 444 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 2: This. 445 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 5: Uh, you know, if something should have break, there's not 446 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 5: going to be anybody there to catch him. 447 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he deserves what he's getting because when he 448 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 4: got elected, you know, I told him, and people in 449 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 4: his orbit they said, because I said, well, now we're concerned, 450 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: like you're going to treat him the way you treat 451 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 4: other politicians, said I am. I said, but as long 452 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 4: as because he's an elected person, you no longer my friend. 453 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 4: He's an elected for he's the second most powerful person 454 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 4: in the state. And I said this, I said, as 455 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 4: long as he does what he's supposed to do instence 456 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 4: of holding true to his word and doesn't lie to 457 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 4: me or deceive me or gonna be fine. And from 458 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 4: almost the get go that he got in there, it 459 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 4: was lies, it was deceit. And you're right, Jim, the 460 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 4: ones I didn't like him already and now because of 461 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 4: the lies and the deceit on the other side didn't 462 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 4: like him either. He doesn't have much in his corner, 463 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 4: which he's gonna need. 464 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 5: Well in politics. I think everybody listening to this understands 465 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 5: that you need credibility. You need that. I'm not going 466 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 5: to say Street cred because I don't say that, but 467 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 5: you need credibility in the state House and and that 468 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 5: bubble that is fifteen to twenty. You know, people in 469 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 5: Lagrange County don't know about this yet, but they will 470 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 5: and and you know, the idea of politics being a 471 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 5: team sport is still there. But right now he just 472 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 5: doesn't have the he doesn't he had. He doesn't have 473 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 5: the you know, the sway of people around the state House. 474 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 5: And you need that. And I remember when you said, 475 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 5: you know, if you keep your head down and you 476 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 5: do everything right and you make the friends, you know, 477 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 5: Katie bar the door, you could you could be governor 478 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 5: in eighty years. You told him that totally. 479 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 3: He would. 480 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 4: He would be if he had just done what he 481 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 4: campaigned on and kept his nose clean and his office's 482 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 4: nose clean, he would be in the perfect position to 483 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 4: primary Braun in a couple of years. 484 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 3: But he couldn't do it. 485 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 4: It's gluttony, this dude and the orbit around him. It's gluttony. 486 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 4: And these people could not help themselves. They're like these 487 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 4: people who win the lottery who have no ability to 488 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 4: manage money, and they're like, look at us, But it's 489 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 4: government and there are rules and there are regulations, and 490 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 4: that's what the Marion County brosk. 491 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 3: If you don't like it, then don't be in the government. 492 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 5: Well, also, you know, Governor Braun is up for election, 493 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 5: and you know, some of us don't think he's going 494 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 5: to run. I think he will, but but he may 495 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 5: be looking for a replacement on the ticket with him 496 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 5: on somebody that's favorable with the delegates, and there are. 497 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 4: Several that would be all right, real quick before I 498 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 4: let you go the spe like, there's so much to 499 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 4: get to. It's all happening all at once. Jimrat is 500 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 4: our guest thirty years in the Indiana Senate. The special 501 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 4: session is happening on Monday. We talked about the State 502 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 4: House happenings. We'll get into it with the duel later. 503 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 4: It seems like the governor has put Rod Bray in 504 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 4: the leader that said, in a very bad position, basically saying, well, 505 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 4: I'm I gotta do this because of Trump. 506 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 3: I dare you to vote it down. 507 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 4: Does Rod Bray, who has said the votes are not there, 508 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 4: does he the stones to stand up to the governor 509 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 4: and say, I warned you. 510 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 3: It's gonna look very bad for you it's going down. 511 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 5: Protems need stones, they need strength, they need a backbone. 512 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 5: And I've seen many now many protems that I've worked with, 513 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 5: and I work with Center Bray as well as Yes, 514 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 5: Broad Burray does have the stones. It'll pass. There will 515 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 5: be a special session. It'll pass the House. The Senate 516 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 5: believes in decorum, also with transparency, and they'll try to 517 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 5: put it through committee and on the floor. 518 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 3: It'll fail on the floor. 519 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 5: And now then we will have a crisis in the 520 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 5: state House next week. 521 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: So does your believe it will fail? It will get 522 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 3: a vote, but it will fail. 523 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 5: Yes, it will fail the Senate. 524 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 3: Okay, Bromberg. If it does fail, can Broun recover from that? 525 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 4: Well, because too is major as you failed, which is 526 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 4: property taxes. 527 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 3: He failed on that. Everybody hates him because of that. 528 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 4: And now he's going to try this and he's gonna 529 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 4: get slapped down by his own Senate if that happens. 530 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 3: She just folded up. 531 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 5: It just all depends on what he does next and 532 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 5: how he handles that. It's always the next step on handling, 533 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 5: you know, crisis communication and uh, well, we'll just have 534 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 5: to see. I can't tell you because because you know. 535 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 5: We we saw the failure of the property tax reform 536 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 5: issue Senate Bill one will royal local governments for the 537 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 5: next couple of years. We're seeing it now and and uh, 538 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 5: it goes back to you know, how you handle crisis 539 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 5: and situations, and we'll just have to see. 540 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: Boy, I hate that I have to cheer for Rod Bray, 541 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 4: but I do. And nothing would make me happier than 542 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 4: to watch that thing go down. And Rod Bray would 543 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 4: be a rock star if he did that. 544 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 5: Well, certainly, if you'll hate it, it's certainly going to 545 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 5: be something to talk about. 546 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 3: That's what we need. I can't get that. I can't 547 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: get that. Lucky. 548 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 4: Find him on Twitter at Jim Underline Merit also Merrit 549 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 4: in the Morning Yes Podcast. 550 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: Good luck with your interviews today. Thank you, it's okay 551 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 3: ninety three WIBC. I can't. I don't know what to 552 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 3: make of what you got in the mail. I don't either, That's. 553 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: Why I had to bring it to your attention. 554 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: It was a flyer that I got in the mail, 555 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 2: actually more like a postcard, Uh huh, And it just 556 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: says are you prepared? 557 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: Am I prepared for? 558 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: What? 559 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 560 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: Funeral planning cremation questions, bank account management, grief support. 561 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: Believe it or not, they've thought of that. 562 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: I got invited to a complimentary meal and presentation about 563 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: planning my death. 564 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. So basically, whoever sent that to you, who thinks 565 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 3: your time is nearing an end? Right, and they. 566 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 4: Said you better. I was addressed to you or your husband, 567 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 4: the whole family. The whole family. Then once you're your 568 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 4: twenty four year old daughter to get in on this, 569 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 4: all of us. 570 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: They want us to come and have this meal and 571 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: hear about I mean, I guess that is something you 572 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: do have to consider, especially if you have aging parents. 573 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: But I feel like I'm there yet, Rob, Why is 574 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 2: someone pushing me in this direction? 575 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 3: Well, look, you are sixty three years old. 576 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm not. Oh even at that age, it still seems well. 577 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 4: Okay, So my question is, so it was actually addressed 578 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 4: to your family by name? Yes, because somebody owned your 579 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 4: high rise before you did. And I thought, well, maybe 580 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 4: that person was elderly and maybe they were thinking like, oh, 581 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 4: we got to get them in on it. 582 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: But no, they had her name or resident. They didn't 583 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: really care. Who's there, just somebody Okay. 584 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 4: So I was thinking about this the other day, I 585 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 4: was sitting there eating my Arbi's and I was thinking, 586 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 4: you know, I've been coming to this restaurant for twenty 587 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 4: five years now, and well longer than that. I was 588 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 4: coming there when I was a kid. I was coming 589 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 4: by myself for twenty five years now. I've been coming 590 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 4: since I was in elementary school. So thirty plus years now, 591 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 4: I remember being there as a kid, and I'm thinking, like, 592 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 4: thirty years from now, I may not be remember having 593 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 4: been here thirty years ago. Like that's where the point 594 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 4: I'm life like I am. I am, though youthful in 595 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 4: beauty and spirit. Sure, the reality is this is like 596 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 4: an automobile. The time is starting to you know, you're 597 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 4: on the other side, and the warranty probably doesn't cover 598 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 4: me anymore. 599 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: Isn't that something though? But you're in your mind you're 600 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: still twenty something. 601 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 3: Oh totally. Well. 602 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 4: You know, when I look in the mirror, I don't 603 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 4: I don't see a forty year old person. I still 604 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 4: see myself. 605 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: I can get down, I just can't get back up. 606 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 4: I just I think part of it is because I 607 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 4: didn't go through the normal phases of life like. 608 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: I like, you know what I'm saying like I didn't. 609 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 4: I didn't have a child until I was in my 610 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 4: in my thirties or the late thirties, and I never 611 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 4: had a normal job, so I never like when I 612 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 4: was younger, I didn't get in the habit of getting 613 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 4: up and going to work. 614 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you never had a nine to five. 615 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 3: Uh, you've been nine. 616 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 4: To new And even now I don't have a normal job, right, 617 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 4: Like I go in for four hours and just sit 618 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 4: there by myself and wants the you know, planets spin around. 619 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 4: But then there are times where I get hit. It's 620 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 4: like I'm you know, I'm forty years old, Like I'm do. 621 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 3: You want the card? You need it? Are you prepared? 622 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: Are you? Are you prepared? 623 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: Well? 624 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 4: In my case, I'm always prepared that some politics are 625 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 4: gonna run me over in the parking garage. 626 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: So you're gonna be prepared. 627 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: You should be prepared. Maybe you need to go for 628 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 2: the compliments presentation. 629 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 4: Such an interesting marketing ploy like basically sending things to 630 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 4: people's home and saying. 631 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 3: Hey, you're gonna go soon. 632 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: What are these days? 633 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 3: You better your number's gonna get called now. 634 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 4: I read a thing somebody posted this, and I think 635 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 4: they said the greatest aging people do is that the 636 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 4: ages of forty four and sixty four statistically. 637 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know if that's accurate. 638 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 4: This was a health person who posted this fitness person, 639 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 4: so I have no reason to doubt that. 640 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 3: But I don't even know. 641 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 4: I wasn't inquisitive enough to read the to read the article, but. 642 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 3: Well, good luck. 643 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: Thanks. 644 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 2: I had a girlfriend who told me that once you 645 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 2: hit fifty, it's much harder, and. 646 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: I believe I was like forty eight, like life's much harder. Yeah, yeah, 647 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: I think it was around forty eight when she told 648 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: me that. I was like, oh whatever, but she was right. 649 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 4: keV, you're thirty. Have you found living is harder now 650 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 4: at any point? Or are you still basically like, I 651 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 4: can you out with me? You out till three? 652 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: I mean, my social circle doesn't really go out as 653 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: much as we used to because they're getting married and 654 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: having kids. 655 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: Right, so it's different for that reason. 656 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: But I feel like I can still keep up with people. 657 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 4: Have you kept the same group of friends because I 658 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 4: always had to rotate through new friends about every two 659 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 4: years because they would they would move on with their life, 660 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 4: and I said, I'm too immature for that I'm going 661 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 4: to stay here and do the same stuff. So I 662 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 4: had to rotate through new friends, like every two years. 663 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 4: Do you have you kept the same batch of friends. 664 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I hang out with certain people more 665 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: and less. 666 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 4: That would be hard than if you had the same 667 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 4: group of people. You know, me, I could make friends 668 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 4: with the. 669 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 2: Fly so friends when your daughter enters school, Hey, I 670 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 2: got enough friends, because you'll become friends with a friend's parents. 671 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 3: They know who I am. 672 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: Kevin, the real question are you prepared? Would you like 673 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: the number? They have a nice QR code you can scan. 674 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's probably not a bad thing to think about. 675 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean you never know when you're gonna 676 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 4: get you know, you don't know. 677 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: Well for him, he probably won't have social Security, so 678 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 2: things could be harder for you. 679 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 3: Well, that's right, Key, you better prepare sooner. 680 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 4: You are going to be a maker and Casey is 681 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 4: going to be a taker, and I'll probably be somewhere 682 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 4: in the middle. So so, hey, grandma or glad you're 683 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 4: still with us. 684 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 3: By the way, you're very well preserved. 685 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm glad I'm still with you too. 686 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 4: Most people will not look at you and think you're 687 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 4: seventy six years old when you're doing a phenomenal job. 688 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: I look age a little bit like a whole one day? 689 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: Does it equal a year? 690 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 3: Here? 691 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 4: Isn't it weird how some people you look at them 692 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 4: and you just like you would have no idea what 693 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 4: their actual age is on both in of the spectrum, 694 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 4: Like some people you look at them and you think, oh, 695 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 4: you know they're twenty, they're twenty five, and you know 696 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 4: they're thirty five or forty. And then some people you 697 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 4: look at them and you're like, there's some girl I 698 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 4: went to high school with in elementary school and I 699 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 4: looked at her and I was like, is that her mom? 700 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 3: Like how old is this woman age? 701 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, she's forty like me, she 702 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:19,959 Speaker 4: looks sixty five years old. 703 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: Well you are evergreen. Rob Kendall, thank you. It is 704 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 1: The Kendall and Casey Show. It's ninety three WIBC. 705 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 2: Sup