1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: The former governor's closest political ally in one of his 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: best friends, pays a lot of. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 2: Money to try to make things whole. 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: It's Kennelly Casey Show and Rob Casey's out today. So 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Jamie Nole, many of you longtime listeners, you're very familiar 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: with the Jamie Nole saga. But just to reset who 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: this guy is and then we'll get to the latest 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: on what's going on with him. Jamie Nole is the 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: former sheriff of Clark County, Indiana. Clark County for those 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: of you who made up be familiar with county by 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 1: county of our fabulous state. That's the Jeffersonville area. It's 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: as far south as you can basically possibly go. Jamie 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: Nole was the sheriff of Clark County, Indiana. He was 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: also one of the most powerful he was. He was 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: a county party chairman, and he was one of the 16 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: most powerful Republicans in the state. He was a part 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: of what they call the Central Committee. That made him 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: one of probably the twenty most powerful Republicans in the 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: state and quite honestly, probably one of the five most 20 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: powerful Republicans in the state. Because he was thick as 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: thieves with former Governor Eric Holcombe. He was an integral 22 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: part of Holcombe getting elected re elected and was so 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: close with Holcombe that in there and I believe these 24 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: photos have now since been deleted, but photos of Holcomb 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: with the family, checking on the family, et cetera. I mean, 26 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: these guys were really tight and at one point Jamie 27 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: Nole actually garnered national attention when he was featured in 28 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: a I believe it was A and E at The 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: program is called sixty Days in It was a reality 30 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: television show in which again I think it was A 31 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: and E partnered with Nol as the sheriff of Clark 32 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: County and they put undercover people in the jail, like 33 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: non criminals in the jail, and they had hidden cameras 34 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: and their job was to get information on what was 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: going on in the jail. It was when several seasons, 36 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: I believe it was fascinating program. I think they did 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: multiple jails, but Nole was a PARTAB believe the initial 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 1: season was the Clark County Jail and Jamie Nole was 39 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: one of the stars of that of that program as 40 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: the sheriff. Anyway, Jamie Nole last year pled guilty to 41 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: I believe it was more than a dozen felony charges 42 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: Capital Crown Friends at the Indiana Capitol Chronicle, amongst others. 43 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: All sorts of news outlets across the state reported on 44 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: this related to essentially stealing money, stealing resources based on 45 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: his position of authority, whether it be nonprofits, issues related 46 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: to his time as sheriff, and having people do work 47 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: on his properties. He was a rotten, nasty individual and 48 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: for that he ended up his blatant misuse of the 49 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: public trust. He I believe he got fifteen years in prison. 50 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: Most people think he'll serve tennish of those, and that 51 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: remains to be seen. However, another part of this was 52 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: the guy stole upwards of three million dollars, and then 53 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: that put the onus on the government the court system 54 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: to figure out where did that money go and how 55 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: do we try to make these organizations that he stole 56 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: it from, hold these nonprofits, the taxes, all of these things. 57 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: And his wife and daughter were ultimately implicated in this 58 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: as well. And so as of Christmas Eve, Noel paid 59 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: back or to holden payback the government on the assets 60 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: the government was able to seize and then liquidate. Paid 61 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: back about two point three million dollars, and of that, 62 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: roughly three hundred thousand or so went to various fees, 63 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: the auction company that auctioned the stuff, et cetera. So 64 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: only about two million of the three million that he swindled, 65 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, out of good and 66 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: decent people and our government and us as taxpayers was 67 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: made whole. And so now that part of the case 68 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: is essentially closed, and it comes back to and anytime 69 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: Jamie Knowle pops up in the news, I will ask 70 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: this question, which is, how has no one in the 71 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: media other than really this program asked the question, how 72 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: is it possible that Eric Holcombe could not have known 73 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: that arguably his best friend and closest political ally while 74 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: he was governor. By the way, we're not talking about 75 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: when they were back in the day, when they were two, 76 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, babes playing in the woods, right, two young lads. 77 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: Is the sitting governor of the state of Indiana. This 78 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: guy was an integral part, so close to him that 79 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: he was an integral part of his elections as governor. 80 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: He was, you know, on numerous. 81 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: Occasions checking in, hanging out with with Nole's family, et cetera. 82 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: How is it possible that he didn't know that this 83 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: guy was living millions of dollars above his means? And 84 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: I just can't buy for a second. Think about whoever 85 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: your best friend is, whoever it might be. You don't 86 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: have any idea what they're doing on a daily basis. 87 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: They could be doing things that are nefarious and you 88 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: don't know about it, and I don't expect you to. 89 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: But if they suddenly started buying amazing clothes or extra houses, 90 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: or going on trips or smoking the finest cigars, and 91 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: you looked at their job and said, hey, your job. 92 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: In this case, the guy was a sheriff. It doesn't 93 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: pay that much. Wouldn't you be asking yourself and asking them, Hey, Harold, 94 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: did you hit the lottery? How are you doing this? 95 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: Did you get into crypto? And yet we're led to 96 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: believe that Eric Holcombe, the sitting governor of the state 97 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: of Indiana, arguably his best friend and closest political ally, 98 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: was living millions of dollars above his means. 99 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: And he had no idea. And when you couple that with. 100 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: All of the money that it has come out that 101 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: Eric Holcomb and the Holcombe administration we were aware of 102 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: that that was going into the IEDC. And then Holcomb 103 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: is essentially the de facto ahead of the IEDC. Hundreds 104 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: of millions of dollars was going to companies of the 105 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: decisions made by board members, people in charge of the IEDC, 106 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: of the companies that they were running. And Holcom is 107 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: the de facto head of the IEDC as the governor. 108 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: He didn't know about that either. When you really start 109 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: peeling back the onion on the Hulcombe administration, you I 110 00:06:55,080 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: think are going to find one, at best misuse and 111 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: abuse of taxpayer money after another, either by their administration 112 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: or people that are connected to them, connected to him. 113 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: We can look at Minnesota all we want, because obviously 114 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: that's in the news, and the big news this morning 115 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: is Tim Walls announced he's not gonna run for reelection, 116 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: and we can look at that and we canna say 117 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: that is egregious, that is horrible. How dare those people 118 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: abuse billions of taxpayer dollars? And you should, but you 119 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: would be making a horrible mistake if you just saw 120 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: the state of Minnesota and said those rotten Democrats, because 121 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: look at what happened under the previous administration. Here the IEDC, Medicaid, 122 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: countless government programs in which waste, fraud, and abuse has 123 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: been found. 124 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: Why don't we get outraged about it? Here? 125 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: Is it any less wasteful, or less abusive, or any 126 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: less ridiculous because the people calling the shots on the 127 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: waist the fraud and the abuse had an R next 128 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: to their name instead of the D. And look at 129 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: who the governor hung out with. Look at who one 130 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: of his closest friends in political allies was now spending 131 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: all of this time in prison and coming up a 132 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: million dollars short in the restitution. You are kind of 133 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: the company you keep. And I really haven't heard Eric 134 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: Holcombe ever in any sort of forceful, consistent capacity reject 135 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: Jamie Nole or say anything really about it. I think 136 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: he got asked about it maybe once or twice when 137 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: he was governor, and you know, gave some meali mouth 138 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: the answer like he usually does. But people need to 139 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: look into what happened during the Wholcombe administration. There's a 140 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: lot of horrible people that he hung around with and 141 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: hung out with, and was associated with and was in 142 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: his orbit. And there were a lot of people who 143 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: did a lot of rotten things as it relates to 144 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: our money, and for some reason, our media just wouldn't 145 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: that while he was governor, and I don't understand it. 146 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: It's Kennelly Casey Show. I did want to touch on 147 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: this real quick. I'm Rob Casey's out today. There was 148 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: a fascinating story. WRTV had the article about how much 149 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: debt people racked up during the holidays, and the number 150 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: is staggering. I'll tell you what, I just saw the 151 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: clock here. We'll take a break. We'll get into this 152 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: when we come back. Because people got some spending problems. 153 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: We gotta have some we gotta have some fire, we 154 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: gotta have some financial accountability talk when we come back. 155 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: It's Kettle a Casey Show, ninty three, WIBC. 156 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: This was a fascinatingly scary statistic and we got to 157 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: get into it. It's the It's the Kennel and Casey Show. 158 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: Rob Casey's out today. By the way, let's point out 159 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: Caleb doing a fabulous job in the producer studio, uh 160 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: exceeding all expectations in for Kevin today. So WRTV six 161 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: had this article and it's about how much debt people 162 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: racked up during the holiday season. So and This isn't clear, 163 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: but I would assume by when they say debt, like 164 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: I use a credit card a lot because you get 165 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: money back for it. Right, Like I try to use 166 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: my credit card whatever I can because you get money 167 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: back for it. 168 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: But I also religiously. 169 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: Pay it off, not only on time, but like I'm 170 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: so ocd about it, like ten days ahead of time, 171 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: and I'm so ocd about it that I don't risk 172 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: the mail. I just go pay it in person. Here 173 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: you go, here's your money. Can I get that receipt? 174 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: Thanks that way, if you said I didn't pay it, 175 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: I got this little piece of paper that says I did. 176 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: I try to still do everything as much as I 177 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: can on paper because I just I just want to 178 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: have proof of everything. It just makes me feel better. 179 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: But when they say debt, I am assuming that means 180 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: not just money spent, because money spent is not debt. 181 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: It's the amount of money you're adding that you owe 182 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: people that you cannot pay back at the end of 183 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: the month. And according to WRTV six lending Tree. The 184 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: study came from lending Tree, more than the third of 185 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: Americans racked up debt, averaging between twelve hundred and thirteen 186 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars and beat that back. This is just 187 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: the holidays that we're not talking a year, We're talking 188 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: six months. We're talking just the holiday season, which I 189 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: would you know that. I think the average reason is okay, 190 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: what is that Thanksgiving to Christmas? Twelve to thirteen hundred 191 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: dollars of debt? Now, look, you live your life the 192 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: way you want to live it, and I'll live mine. 193 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: And if you want to live on the edge, that's okay. 194 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: You do you. 195 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: However, this is a major problem across our nation and 196 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: it's starting to affect everybody because the debt that Americans 197 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: collectively are saddled with, and their ability or inability to 198 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: pay it off, and the amount of money that it 199 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: takes to pay it off, and how that affects their 200 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: ability to buy and participate in the economy in other ways, 201 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: that affects all of us. You're not being some nosy 202 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: neighbor if you're like, well, that seems a little scary 203 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: that people racked up twelve to thirteen hundred dollars of 204 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: debt that they can't pay off right away. That's a 205 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: lot of money. I know, we looked what the average 206 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: income here in state of Indiana, whatever it is, I 207 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: don't remember what it was, forty five fifty thousand dollars. 208 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: That's a large portion of your average income that goes 209 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: to debt. And once you start racking up debt, it 210 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: would immediately start accruing interest, which makes your debt harder 211 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: and harder to pay off. That's why credit card companies 212 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: are banks who issue credit cards want you to use 213 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: the credit card. It's why they offer the incentive. They're 214 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: not offering the cash back out of the goodness of 215 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: their heart. They're not running a soup kitchen there. They're 216 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: making money off of it, and they're making money off 217 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: of it by people not being able to pay the 218 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: thing off in time, people getting it over their skis, 219 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: getting in over their heads and then it takes them 220 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: forever to pay it back off, and them making money 221 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: on that process. I had this conversation with people all 222 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: the time. I hate interest more than just about anything. 223 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: I hate interest. 224 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: One. 225 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: I hate owing money to people on stuff, but I 226 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: also hate interest because you're just lighting that money on fire. 227 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: It's not going anywhere. You know, if you spend irresponsibly, 228 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: but you're not going into debt. 229 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: You at least have something to. 230 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: Show for it, shoes or purses, or memories in a 231 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: ballgame or house or car, whatever it is, right, you 232 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: have something tangible for it your interest debt, your debt 233 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: and the interest that you. 234 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: Pay on it. 235 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: It's just going into the abyss. And so I thought 236 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: that was a fascinating statistic. And you do wonder how 237 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: do we stop this? Because I think reasonable people would agree, Hey, 238 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: why are people going into that life of debt in 239 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: a relatively short period of time. What is causing people 240 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,599 Speaker 1: to feel they have to do that? You know, in 241 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: my house we talked about this many times in this show. 242 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: We don't want to do birthdays anymore. In my house, 243 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: I believe birthdays are for the mother. The mother did 244 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: all the actual work. 245 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: What did you do? 246 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: God told you it was time to come out? You 247 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: moved like a foot. The mother should be celebrated on 248 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: the birthday. She held you in there for nine Your 249 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: dad did like ten seconds worth of work. Let's face it, 250 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: the mother nine months of carrying you around the birth 251 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: And I know many of you in our audience you 252 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: have children. You have experience, either as a father or 253 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: as a mother doing the birthing you've experienced the birthing process. 254 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: Once you've experienced the birthing process, whatever hard feelings you 255 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: have carried with you throughout your childhood into your adult ears. 256 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: For your parents, especially your mother, they will go away 257 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: once you see what it took to get you into 258 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: this onto this earth. Once you see either as the 259 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: natural childbirth or the C section or whatever, all of 260 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: it is horrendous for the mother. Like I told my 261 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: wife after childbirth, they said, no matter what you ask 262 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: for in this life, I'm gonna have a hard time 263 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: saying no because I watched you go through that. But 264 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: the point of all this is what are we teaching 265 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: at a young age? What are we teaching people about finances? 266 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: Why do they feel? And what are we teaching as 267 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: a society as parents? What are we teaching people that 268 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: they feel compelled that they have to rack up the status? 269 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: I said, we don't do birthdays anymore because I don't 270 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: need you to buy me something just for the sake 271 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: of buying it. I don't need you to get me 272 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: a thing just because what that somehow shows you like 273 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: me more. No, if I want them that, I'll buy it. 274 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm a grown ass man. I'm I'm forty years old. 275 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: I can do this now. But it's the thought that counts. 276 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: You remember me, You like me, you said happy birthday, 277 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: thank you. But for some reason, we are in a 278 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: society where people will not only do they have to 279 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: get things for people to show some sort of appreciation, 280 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: but also they have to financially leverage themselves. They have 281 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: to go put themselves into debt or in many cases 282 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: it will take people months or even years to pay 283 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: that off. That's a learned thing, and it's also learned 284 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: in the sense of a lack of financial literacy, where 285 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: people aren't thinking things through, or they're not being educated 286 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: to be able to think things through, to say, wow, 287 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: if I do this, here's the actual cost of it, 288 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: which of course I'm absorbing, But what's the real cost 289 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: to it over time? And not only how long is 290 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: it going to take me to pay this back, but 291 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: what is it going to prohibit me from doing going forward? 292 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: These are all things we should be learning as young people, 293 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: and clearly, based on this data from WRTV, this lending 294 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: Tree survey, we we are not learning those things all right. 295 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: When we take let's take a break. When we come back, 296 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: it's Kent of a Casey Show. By the way, I'm 297 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: Rob Casey's out today. When we come back. I've been 298 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: working on a little project over Christmas break that I'm 299 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: gonna tell you guys about. I know Casey mentioned it 300 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 1: at one point, and there's a news article that came 301 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: out about this little project that I'm working on, and 302 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: the quote from one of these elected people tells you 303 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: everything you need to know about them. We'll talk about 304 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: it when we come back. Kennl A Casey Show, ninety 305 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: three WIBC. One of your goals with elected people should 306 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: always be to make them talk, because when they talk, 307 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,239 Speaker 1: you'll find out who they actually are. And I'm going 308 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: to give you a specific example of this of a 309 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: little project that I'm working on. It's Kennlly Casey Show. 310 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm Rob Casey's out today. The Indiana General Assembly has reconvened. 311 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: They are starting their twenty twenty six short session today. 312 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: They think they'll hopefully the multiple high ranking members there 313 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: have said they hoped to wrap up by February, since 314 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: they were already there during December for the redistricting debacle. 315 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: And one of the things that we've talked about this 316 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: on this show for years is really since I got 317 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: here and we've talked about kind of the interesting thing 318 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: for me is I've been here nine years now. I 319 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: should have been December of twenty sixteen. And when I 320 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: got here talking basically the same way I talk now 321 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: about the same things I talk now. In my views, 322 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: they just they don't they haven't changed. I was such 323 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: an outlier when I showed up here because the pre 324 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, when there were numerous changes took place at 325 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: this radio station, WBC sort of lived in this like 326 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: Republicans good, Democrats bad orbit right, it's just the way 327 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: it operated. And those were the kind of the Rush 328 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: Limbaugh days, and that just the way the sort of 329 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: the news was broadcast, right, and I should up and 330 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: I started saying to people, Look, you've got to get 331 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: past some meaningless letter and realize that almost all of 332 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: these people operate the same way. It's dinner theater, it's 333 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: whose line is it anyway? Where the famous television show 334 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: in the nineties and two thousands where they I think 335 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: the tagline was something like where the game's made up 336 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: and the rules don't matter. And what you realize when 337 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: you actually get past the letter is you realize how 338 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: little difference there actually is in most cases between the 339 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: Democrats and the Republicans, and how not only are they 340 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: both using you, I mean they're sucking the life out 341 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: of you. That is what you are as a taxpayer. 342 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: You are like the host, right, you are the host victim. 343 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: We are all host victims. There are essentially three hundred 344 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: and thirty million plus host victims that the government sucks 345 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: everything they can get away with sucking. 346 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: Out of us. 347 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: And when you realize that they see you as nothing 348 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: but a money a money factory, and the disdain these 349 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: people actually have for you, that's the key. And when 350 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: I was saying these things nine years ago, people were 351 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: all like, who the hell is this guy? What? 352 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: Like, what are you? 353 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: How could you possibly be saying these things about the Republicans? 354 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: And you know what happened after Trump got elected, a 355 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: lot of these masks started coming off. That will always 356 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: say this, and I am critical of many things Trump 357 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: has done as president, but one of the great things 358 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump did that will hopefully be a lasting 359 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: legacy is he pulled the mask back, or he really 360 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: forced others to pull the mask back on themselves an 361 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: elected office to. 362 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 2: Show you who they are, to show you how they 363 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: view you and what they. 364 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: Actually think about you. And I've said this so many 365 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: times over the years that one of the things our 366 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: show does so well and I'm so proud of, is 367 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: we force these elected people to talk. How many of 368 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: these guys over the years have we talked about in 369 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: this program and then they have some sort of meltdown 370 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: either on various other programs here on the internet or whatever. 371 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 2: And you see who they are. You see the distinct. 372 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: I'm talking at the congress people, the senators, I'm talking 373 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: the state elected people, I'm talking the locals. How many 374 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: times have we done that? And that's always the goal, 375 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: because once you fled their like rats, these elected people 376 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 1: are like rats. You gotta flush them out into the 377 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: sunshine and then watch them scatter, watch them spas. Because 378 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: they aren't used to being challenged. That's the secret. These 379 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: people are so used to just doing whatever they want 380 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: to do. And because they don't get challenged, and oh 381 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: they do not get challenged. Most people kiss their backside. 382 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: They go to events, all let me get a picture 383 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: with you, mister congressman, mister senator. 384 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so lucky to be here. Next to you. 385 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: They live off of that, and when you force them 386 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: to talk, when you first force them to work through it, 387 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: the overwhelming majority of what they do totally crumbles. It 388 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: totally falls apart. And so one of the things this 389 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: is just I wasn't gonna do this segment, but the 390 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: story just came out, and so I thought, well, this 391 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: is a perfect time to talk about this because it 392 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: is what we talk about this program. 393 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: Many of you are aware. 394 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: One of the things that I started participating in over 395 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: the holiday break is I am helping out with Brownsburg, 396 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: where I live, trying to become a city, trying to 397 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: go from a town to a city. And one of 398 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: the reasons that I'm helping with that it's not my charge, 399 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: but I have agreed to help out with, is because 400 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: over Christmas break there was a council meeting in which 401 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: the town council relates to the water and sewer range, 402 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: which are taxes if you have to opt into something 403 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: which you do municipality with where you get your water 404 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: and your sewer, and they raise the fee on that 405 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: and you can't shop around on it. 406 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: It's tax. 407 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: It's tax increased if the government's taking it from you 408 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: by force. 409 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: It's a tax. 410 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: And so one of the things that happened over Christmas 411 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: break is I went to a meeting where they had 412 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: given they, being the town council that runs the town, 413 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: had given very clear instructions to the town manager to 414 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: do something related to these water and sewer fees. The 415 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: town manager town staff did not do that in the 416 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: public meeting, and they still voted to raise the taxes anyway. 417 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: And I'm sitting in the back of this meeting saying, 418 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 1: you have an unelected, unaccountable person who's unaccountable to the voters, 419 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: who just did whatever they wanted to do. And clearly 420 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: these five people are not willing to hold this person 421 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: to any sort of account and we're going to get 422 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: stuck paying more. I said, that has to stop. And 423 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: so there had been a member of the town board 424 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: who was starting a city status referend petition where you 425 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: get people to sign and then if you get enough 426 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: people to sign, then it goes to the voters to 427 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: vote in a referendum. And I said, well, I wasn't gonna. 428 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 2: Help with this. 429 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: Now I am, I'm really pissed off because this is 430 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: never gonna change. This unelected person is going to do 431 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: whatever they want to do, and these five people are 432 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: supposed to be in charge don't have the stones to 433 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: call this person out, hold them accountable. And I have 434 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: to pay more now because this person didn't do what 435 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: they were told to do. 436 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 2: I'm done with this. 437 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna help with the signature. So we've had a 438 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: great response so far. I kind of had some fun 439 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: several days getting out of the house. I went to 440 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: the local McDonald's. People would show up, they'd sign the petition. 441 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: And we're in the process of doing this and one 442 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: of the local newspapers in town, it's You are Current. 443 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: You probably know them best. They cover Hamilton County, but 444 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: they've also started covering Hendricks County as well. You are 445 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: Current your Current dot com did an article. It just 446 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: literally just came out about what we're doing and what 447 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: we're trying to do with this process. And I think 448 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: I can say this for the other people that are 449 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: that are doing this. One of the things we're trying 450 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: to do is give the public a say in the 451 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: people that are making choices for them. Get rid of 452 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: the unelected person who essentially acts as a mayor anyway, 453 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: and give yourself a voice, give the people a voice 454 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: and an ability to participate in the key decisions that 455 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: are being made that affect their pocketbook. And so I 456 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: did an interview for this. It's a fabious article. You 457 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: can you can read it now you are Current dot com. 458 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: And then there's a Brownsburg section there like the other 459 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: cities that they cover, and you can read this and 460 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: the title of the articles petition sees to turn Brownsburg 461 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: into a city. But what's interesting about this is they 462 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: interviewed one of the town council members and her name 463 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: is Cindy Homan, and Cindy Homan is a Democrat. And 464 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: Cindy Homan is the same lady who on multiple occasions 465 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: has failed to identify the correct roads that are in town, 466 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: whether a road is even in town. She has regularly 467 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: shown she has no idea what's going on. She says 468 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: idiotic things on the regular in these meetings. And I 469 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: want to read you her quote though, and she said 470 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: this on the record, And again it comes back to 471 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: and this is not about just Brownsburg. We're talking about 472 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: this because it's where I live. It's something that affects me. 473 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: But these people are everywhere wherever you live, there are 474 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: people like this in your community, and this is what 475 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: they actually think of you. So take away where the 476 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: actual town is. Just listen to the quote. Because these 477 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: people are everywhere, and they're at the local level, and 478 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: they're at the state level, and they're certainly at the 479 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: federal level. 480 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 2: This is what the people think of you. She said. 481 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: Quote As for this petition, I'm against turning the town 482 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: into a city. I don't we believe we need to 483 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: be saddled with only one person's vision of where the 484 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: town is going. I also don't believe we have the 485 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: talent for a mayor. Let me repeat that, I also 486 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: don't believe we have the talent for a mayor. Brownsburg 487 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: is a town of about thirty five thousand people now, 488 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 1: and this woman who on a regular basis show and 489 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: she doesn't even know where roads are in town. She 490 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: doesn't even know where the town boundaries are. She's gonna 491 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: tell you that of thirty five thousand people, she's smarter 492 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: than any one of you. 493 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 2: That's what she's telling you. That's what she thinks of you. 494 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 1: To Cindy Homan, Democrat, member of the Brownsburg Town Council, 495 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: and these people are everywhere. Your job is to shut 496 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: up and pay. She's the decider. She knows better than you. 497 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: These are your elected officials. Nainety three WIBC. It's Kenelly 498 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: Casey Show. So we have declared on this program, twenty 499 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: twenty six is the Year of the listener. Let's talk 500 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: about what that means because it's a group participation project. 501 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: Naughty three WIBC. It's Kennelly Casey Show. I'm Rob Casey's 502 00:27:54,200 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: out today. Look every year when I come back, it's interesting. 503 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 1: As you get older, and I'm sure you do this 504 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: in your own life, like you take much better. You 505 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: have a better perspective on things. And one of the things, 506 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: and I think I've talked about this before on the show, 507 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: one of the things I do each night is I 508 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: write a daily entry to my daughter. And since the 509 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: day we found out she was going to be a 510 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: girl and we knew what her name was going to 511 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: be when we found that out, I started a journal. 512 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: So throughout the process of her being born and then 513 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: for the first two and a half years of her life, 514 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: I've kept a daily journal. And one of the things 515 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: that I've talked to her about and my goal of 516 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: keeping this journal one has been so she'll have a 517 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: recording of her life. And one of the things whenever 518 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: I pass this off to if she would choose to 519 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: continue that literally her entire life could be written down. 520 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: Like how many people could say that that, you know, 521 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: when you're seventy years old, with the most basic of effort, 522 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: you could have a recording of every single day of 523 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: your entire life. And I will, you know, I will 524 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: impress that upon her, and hopefully she will continue to 525 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: do that and be able to look back on literally 526 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: every single day of her life. 527 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: But also I. 528 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: Want her not only to know what's happened in her life, 529 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: but learn from me, learn from the things that I 530 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: have done, both good and bad. And I'm very I 531 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: try to be very candid with her in these entries 532 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: about my life and mistakes that I've made in life 533 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: or business or whatever, and areas that hopefully she can 534 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: learn from that because I think, as parents, and I 535 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: never really understood this until I had a child on 536 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: my own, this is the most important thing we do. 537 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: The most important job we have is how we allow 538 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: our kids to learn from us, and that involves being 539 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: very honest with them so that they can have the 540 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: best life imaginable. That is my number one goal going forward. 541 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: I love the show, I love what I do, but 542 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: that is my number one goal. And so one of 543 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: the things I've written her about about many other things, 544 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: is perspective and how as you get older, priorities change 545 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: and perspective changes. And for me, what that is meant 546 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: as not being such a dreamer, not in the sense 547 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: of having big ideas. I still have those, but I 548 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: try to create ideas that I see some way of 549 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: being accomplished. Right Like, like you reach a certain point 550 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: in your life where you say, I only have so 551 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: many hours in the day, I only have so much 552 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: opportunity to accomplish things. I need to spend that effort 553 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: and the time on things that can be obtained attained. 554 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: And so as part of perspective, whenever I decide to 555 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: engage in something, I spend a lot more time than 556 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: I used to. I used to just hop into things. 557 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of radio station once like that, 558 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: right like, because it was you're young. 559 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: I was young. I've done well at my first business 560 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 2: chair why not? Why do it? These are things you learn. 561 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: And so I've written to her about the idea of 562 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: perspective and spending your time in whatever endeavor you engage in, 563 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: making sure that it is attainable and obtainable whatever. 564 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 2: You're trying to do. 565 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: And so as I start twenty twenty six, I used 566 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: to like just start a year on this radio station, going. 567 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this, and I'm gonna do that, and 568 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: then you get into it. 569 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: And you go, I can't accomplish all of these things. 570 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: I'd be lucky to be able to get one of 571 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: them done. And so one of the goals that I 572 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: set for myself this year as we came back and 573 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: I've declared it the Year of the Listener. Have you 574 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: seen my social media posts? I said, look, I am 575 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: going to like ever before engage on your behalf. I 576 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: am your advocate nine to noon, three hours a day. 577 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: Rob Kendall is the listener Advocate. I'm gonna get business 578 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: cards made up that say Rob Kendall, listener Advocate. 579 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: I'm no longer a radio host. 580 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: I am a listener advocate because I have reached the 581 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: up for with which I cannot stand with these people. 582 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: But I also have a responsibility to say, how do 583 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: I take that very broad idea, that broad energy and 584 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: put it into focus into things that can be accomplished. 585 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: And so when we talk about the idea of the listener, 586 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: this has got to be a two way street, because 587 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: so often it goes people will send me something and go, hey, 588 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: can you believe this? 589 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: Rob? You ought to do something about that. 590 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: And then I just end up charging the hill on 591 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: my own and I look back and go, where is everybody? 592 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: So part of what we got to figure out this 593 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: year is how do we get the most good out 594 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: of the three hours a day that we have. How 595 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: do we maximize our time together, how do we work 596 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: together to hold these elected officials accountable and start making 597 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: some real serious change. Look, I got to be totally 598 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: honest with you last year, and I needed those three 599 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: weeks off. By the way, two of them were spent 600 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: watching a two and a half year old. I'll tell 601 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: you I'm not like, I'm not saying anybody should shed 602 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: any tears for me, But you have never lived until 603 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: you've had two solid weeks of your two and a 604 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,239 Speaker 1: half year old off daycare sixteen days. Daycare opened at 605 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: seven am this morning, and bamn, I was there one 606 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: of the I gotta be candid with you, though I 607 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: needed those three weeks. Usually I just take them because 608 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: I just don't like to use days off, and I 609 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: just end up with all of them at the end 610 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: of the year. I needed those three weeks because after 611 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, I was gassed because for the first 612 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: time in a long time, I invested in people and 613 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: they all let me down. Mike Braun colossal failure and 614 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: habitual liar, Micah beck With colossal failure and habitual liar. 615 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: And I also carried with me the weight of knowing 616 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: that many of you didn't trust those guys, and some 617 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: of you bought into it because I said so, I said, 618 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: let's take a chance on these guys. 619 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 2: Let's see what they can do. 620 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: And I carried that with me for an entire year 621 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: after that property tax bill fell apart, and going forward, 622 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: I carried that with me because while my heart was 623 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: in the right place and I was trying to do 624 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: the right thing, and I was trying to make a difference, 625 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,479 Speaker 1: and I will always fight for you harder than anybody else. 626 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 2: I will always go down for you. 627 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: Guys. 628 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 2: I made a mistake with those two and they and 629 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 2: they've been a disaster. 630 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: So I said, how do we We can't invest in 631 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: these politicians anymore, because they just all seem to let 632 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: us down. 633 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 2: So what do we do? 634 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: How do we make twenty twenty six the you're the 635 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: listener in which the most good can happen for you? 636 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 2: How do we use this radio show to do the 637 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 2: most good? And the answer? And I struggled with this 638 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 2: a lot overbreak. I thought about it a whole. 639 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 1: Bunch when I wasn't sweeping the floor up, or feeding 640 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: the child, or preventing calamities of mass level. And what 641 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: it came back to was, I can't do it alone, 642 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 1: and I can't do it in four corners of the state, 643 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: and I can't fight every battle. You guys have got 644 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: to decide whether your life is worth engaging for. Hey, look, 645 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: you give me the good stuff. We're gonna put it 646 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: out there. Talk about this Mid State's Corridor thing over 647 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: the next several days. We are going deep on that 648 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: because I think that thing stinks to high heaven. I 649 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: think the governor has some explaining to do, and we're 650 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: going to do our part, just like we did with 651 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: Klein Elder and many other things, to hold elected officials 652 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: accountable when things don't add up to us. And I 653 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: will do that every single day. But you guys got 654 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: to fight the battles too. You guys have got to 655 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 1: step up and fight the battles too. If I'm gonna 656 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: give everything to you, you got to give it back 657 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: for your own life. Because these politicians. You know this. 658 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 2: You know this, and this is why even though people 659 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 2: are always like, I hate him, he's annoying, He's a dance. 660 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: It's why we're number one and people keep tuning back in. 661 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: I had this conversation with somebody over break. They said, 662 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: why do you remain so? Why are your rating so? 663 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: I said, because people know I'm the one guy who's 664 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: not bull crapping them, and people are desperate for that 665 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: because that's what they see with the politicians at a 666 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: local level, at a state level, at a federal level, 667 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: they see people who are bull crapping them. I get 668 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: nothing out of this. I get nothing out of these 669 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 1: battles that I pick every day other than grief. But 670 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: I care enough about you to do it, and I 671 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 1: know if your life gets better, my life is gonna 672 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: get better too. 673 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,479 Speaker 2: I believe in the idea, and I have ever. 674 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: Since I was in an elected official, that we are 675 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: all in this together, not like a Hillary Clinton. It 676 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: takes a village. You got to you know, some commune 677 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: where we pull the resources type of thing. But if 678 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: we're all moving and it comes back to how we 679 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: started the show talking about everybody grabbing the football and 680 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: moving in the same direction together, you got to do 681 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: it in sports. You got to do it with your family, 682 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 1: and you gotta do it with public policy and withholding 683 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: your government accountable. Over the next week, you got to 684 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: challenge yourself, what can I do? Look at election season. 685 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: Maybe that means running for a public office for the 686 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: first time. Maybe that means putting yourself out there like 687 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 1: you haven't before if you're not the guy. 688 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 2: To run or girl to run. 689 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: Maybe it means running a campaign, or serving as a 690 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: treasurer for a campaign so somebody else good can run. 691 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: Maybe it means just knocking on doors for somebody for once, 692 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 1: going to the council meetings, your city or town council 693 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: meetings or your county council meetings. There's stuff you can 694 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 1: do and it doesn't require that much effort. Just a 695 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: little bit of your time, just a little bit, and 696 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: we'll do our part here. You know, we're gonna bring 697 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: the smoke. Three hours a day nine to done. You 698 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: never have to worry about us. I live for this, 699 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: but I need you on some level. You don't even 700 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: have to live for it. You just gotta want it 701 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: a little bit. And so my challenge to you over 702 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: the next week, because the filing window is beginning to 703 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: open for people to run for public office, is to 704 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: think about what you can do, even if not over 705 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: the next year, just over the next six months, we 706 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: can accomplish so much together. 707 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 2: I'm down for it. Let's go. 708 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty six, the Year of the Listener, The Kendall 709 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: and Casey Show. We are here for you. Great job, 710 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: Caleb pressing all the buttons today. You're a rock star. 711 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: We'll see you back here. Nine to Nune, Kettle and 712 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: Casey Shows Stick Around Tony Katz coming up next