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Speaker 1: Dick Cheney passes away at the age of eighty four,

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Speaker 1: former Vice president of the United States, and is oh,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Today was the day that Marjorie Taylor Green

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Speaker 1: went on the view. Oh gosh, I wonder what Tucker's

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Speaker 1: best friend has to say for me.

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Speaker 2: I am unapologetically America first, and I'll do anything I

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Speaker 2: can to work hard to say.

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Speaker 3: You should become a Democrat, Marjorie.

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Speaker 4: Now know something.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this. I think both parties have failed. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: both parties have fails.

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Speaker 1: Worse. Yeah, he's worse. Sorry, you know that.

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Speaker 3: Now, I tell your favorite president. He goes against everything

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Speaker 3: you just said. Now, look, I like Donald Trump. I

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Speaker 3: fought for him to win. I'm very thankful for the

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Speaker 3: secure border. I'm friends with Lake and Riley's mother, and

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Speaker 3: we saw over twelve I serve on homeland security, over

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Speaker 3: twelve million people came across our border, over two million.

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Speaker 1: God aways.

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Speaker 2: These are terrorist cartels, all kinds of criminals. We don't

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Speaker 2: know where they are in this country, and that affects

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Speaker 2: all of us. That's not a political party.

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Speaker 3: For one thing. There's so many other things to go

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Speaker 3: after it.

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Speaker 1: Did you seem to disagree, Let me tell you that

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Speaker 1: one thing is a big thing. Did they have Marjorie

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Speaker 1: on because I should say represented Marjorie Taylor Green, I

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Speaker 1: should give the title because she's been pushing against the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party, Or did they have her on because they

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Speaker 1: realized they need more Republicans on? Were they amazed by

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Speaker 1: the fact that they could have this polite conversation or

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Speaker 1: were they angered by the fact that it wasn't more

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Speaker 1: at least from that clip bitter. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: do not know. What I know is is that is

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Speaker 1: not a small deal. It's a large deal. And Marjorie

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Speaker 1: Taylor Green just ain't my person, even though in that

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Speaker 1: clip she certainly sounded at least normal and the best

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Speaker 1: was Joy behar Joy behars there's so many other things

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Speaker 1: to go after him on. You can't give anything. The

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Speaker 1: left won't give anything. The border's better because of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: End of story. They can't do it. They always have

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Speaker 1: to be angry all the time. Which brings us to

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Speaker 1: Sydney Sweeney because in an interview with I think it

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Speaker 1: was GQ, she's got her film Christie coming out, which

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Speaker 1: she may very well get nominated for an oscar. She

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Speaker 1: was talking about the American Eagle gens ad. So the

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Speaker 1: American Eagle jeans ad is that she's wearing a blue

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Speaker 1: jeans and jeans jacket, and the ad was Sidney Sweeney

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Speaker 1: has great jeens and so instead of recognizing that they're genes,

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Speaker 1: people thought it was about genetics. And oh, sure, the

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Speaker 1: blonde girl who's built like perfection. I think people are

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Speaker 1: plus and minus about her her face, right, it's definitely

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Speaker 1: unique about her body. No, No, everyone's in an agreement,

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Speaker 1: and I believe the agreement sounds like this. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that's totally accurate. Some people sound like this, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you know it's each their own. Can you believe

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Speaker 1: I get paid for this? She is asked about the

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Speaker 1: jeens ad and she's like, and the interview says, the

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Speaker 1: president the vice president spoke about the jeans ad. What

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Speaker 1: was that like? She says, it was surreal, you know,

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Speaker 1: talk about how Trump said, oh she's a registered Republican

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Speaker 1: now I love her at and what she said about

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Speaker 1: it was, you know. First, pushing back on the claim

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Speaker 1: that the ad heard American Eagles performance, she said, I

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Speaker 1: was aware of the numbers as what was going. So

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Speaker 1: when I saw all the headlines of instore visits were

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Speaker 1: down a certain percentage. None of it was true. It

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Speaker 1: was all made up. I know who I am, she says,

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Speaker 1: I know what value I have. I know what I value.

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Speaker 1: I should say the quote, right. I know that I'm

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Speaker 1: a kind person, I know that I love a lot,

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Speaker 1: and then I'm just excited to see what happens next.

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Speaker 1: And so I don't really let other people define who

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Speaker 1: I am, which is a nice way of saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got paid and I'm gonna get paid again. Leave

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Speaker 1: me alone. People want to make her political. It's different

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Speaker 1: than celebrities who are desperate to be political, the Mark

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Speaker 1: Ruffaloes of the world, who think that because of their celebrity,

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Speaker 1: politically inept and incapable. I would debate him anytime, any place, anywhere.

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Speaker 1: It's not the Ruffalo wants to debate me. It's that

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Speaker 1: if we're going to be the people who engage, I

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Speaker 1: should be a guy totally willing to engage. What is

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Speaker 1: it that you value? What is it about this leftism

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Speaker 1: that you value? And how does this Trump hate help you.

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Speaker 1: I was never a fan of Barack Obama, I never

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Speaker 1: foamed at the mouth. I did discuss things like Obama

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Speaker 1: must not win. I did discuss why these elections matter.

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Speaker 1: I did discuss why you wouldn't want to fundamentally transform America.

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Speaker 1: I did discuss the failures of Obamacare and the very

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Speaker 1: idea that it creates slaves of doctors. I can still

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Speaker 1: second he didn't love his kids. I have said about him,

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Speaker 1: and I've said about mischell Obama. I don't know about

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Speaker 1: them as parents. They weren't my parents. I have absolutely

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Speaker 1: no idea they might have been great parents. I don't

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Speaker 1: know about them as friends. They're not my friends. They

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Speaker 1: wonderful friends. But I'm talking about him as president's absolute

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Speaker 1: mess and scandal free all honey, let's not let's not

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Speaker 1: do that. But there are plenty of celebrities who want

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Speaker 1: to get political, which brings us to an interview that

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Speaker 1: was done in New York Times with Jennifer Lawrence, and

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Speaker 1: I thought this was a very very interesting take. Jennifer

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Speaker 1: Lawrence is discussing not being political.

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Speaker 4: Listen, celebrities do not make a difference whatsoever on who

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Speaker 4: people vote for, and so then what am I doing.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to start turning people off to films

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Speaker 1: Let's take a moment to go back and listen to that,

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Speaker 1: because I would argue that that requires a very serious

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Speaker 1: Times and the clip was played over their Fox News.

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Speaker 1: As I go through this about Jennifer Lawrence, she comes

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Speaker 1: to the right place, but her logic seems faulty. So

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Speaker 4: Again, celebrities do not make a difference whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: And that is not true. The idea that people have

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Speaker 1: influenced do not make a difference is simply untrue. They

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Speaker 1: absolutely can make a difference. They can also be detrimental.

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Speaker 1: They can also try and make a difference and engage

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Speaker 1: in a detriment to themselves, be a detriment to themselves.

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Speaker 1: So this starts with a statement that is categorically false,

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Speaker 1: this idea that celebrities don't influence anything.

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Speaker 4: Celebrities do not make a difference, whatsoever on who people

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Speaker 1: If Taylor Swift, if Selena Gomez said vote for it

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Speaker 1: would make a difference. Now you say to me Tony

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, when there was the whole thing with Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: Swift's sales went down and this went down. She lost

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Speaker 1: followers on social media, and it just proves that that's right.

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Speaker 1: If Taylor Swift said vote for Trump, everybody would be saying,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that's so great. It's gonna help so much.

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Speaker 1: You cannot make the statement that celebrities don't have influence.

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Speaker 1: This is just faulty logic. It's a flat out lie.

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Speaker 1: It's untrue. It's untrue because you tried to influence the

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Speaker 1: election and you lost does not change the amount of influence,

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Speaker 1: because is it about specifically the vote and the lever

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Speaker 1: or is it about ideas and ideology that didn't get

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Speaker 1: or to the next subject. Celebrities don't have influences is

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Speaker 1: a misnomer. But then she follows.

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Speaker 4: Up and so then what am I doing? I don't

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Speaker 1: I think that it's probably a misread to think that

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Speaker 1: your films change consciousness. I'm not insulting. I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to insult Jennifer Lawrence at all. I don't know her,

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Speaker 1: and she's been in films I think are excellent, and

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Speaker 1: Is it has been her career and her skills set

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Speaker 1: at such a young age. I think it would be

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Speaker 1: more honest if you said, the only thing talking about

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Speaker 1: my politics has done has impacted the box office negatively,

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Speaker 1: And boy do I not want that? You know who

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Speaker 1: else doesn't want that? The key grip all the guys

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Speaker 1: you talking about the politics? The stuntman, because all stunt people,

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Speaker 1: nearly to a person, are conservatives. Well, of course they are.

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Speaker 1: They put their lives on the line every day. It

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Speaker 1: like what was the chick from was it Cinderella? Ziggler?

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Speaker 1: Rachel Ziggler, You're destroying them who've worked so hard on

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Speaker 1: the film. Now you're like, oh, they already got paid. Well,

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Speaker 1: it means maybe less films will get made because you're

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Speaker 1: to be a success. You're on a successful film. It helps,

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Speaker 1: So they do want you to not they want you

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Speaker 1: to just act, just do the thing, be the box

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Speaker 1: office straw. Sure, but the idea that it's because you

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Speaker 1: don't want to keep people from seeing the brilliance of

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Speaker 1: your film. So you as a celebrity can't change hearts

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Speaker 1: and mind, but your film is going to do that. Well,

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Speaker 1: let me write the ballance of a nation I care

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Speaker 1: not who makes the laws. That's Plato, isn't it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's very true. Politics is downstream of culture.

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Speaker 1: It's one thousand percent accurate. So she gets to the

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Speaker 1: because it's going to help the career, it's going to

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Speaker 1: help the box office. But how she got there seems

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Speaker 1: to be all jumbled up. Maybe I should just be

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Speaker 1: thankful that she got there to begin with. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a better place for you, But you shouldn't. If

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Speaker 1: you really want to speak out, you can just accept

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Speaker 1: that there might be a negative to it as well

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Speaker 1: as a positive, or a neither, or This is Tony

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