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Speaker 2: You have Sean Duffy, who is the Transportation Secretary, stating

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Speaker 2: quite clearly, we can't afford.

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Speaker 3: Because of this government shutdown.

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Speaker 2: We cannot afford to keep everybody afloat. We cannot afford

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Speaker 2: is going to be pretty big, pretty big. Indeed, in

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Speaker 4: Traffic control, we've had a conversation over the course of

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Speaker 4: the last month about some of the challenges that we're

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Speaker 4: having in the airspace. You know that we are two

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Speaker 4: thousand controllers short, air traffic controller short, and we have

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Speaker 4: thus far this year. I've also offered air traffic controllers

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Speaker 4: All of that has been reducing the pressure on the

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Speaker 4: takes years to bring more well trained, certified controllers into

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Speaker 4: the airspace. The shutdown is having an impact on our

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Speaker 4: ability to maintain those numbers and dent that two thousand

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Speaker 3: We agree with that we see this.

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Speaker 2: We're already seeing flights be delayed, we're already seeing the

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Speaker 2: weight times increasing. And he's right. We're trying to get

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Speaker 2: But you can't rush it. It's like bourbon. True, if

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Speaker 2: I pour the right mixture of fifty one percent corn

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Speaker 2: the barrel being of American oak first use and charred, that,

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Speaker 2: by the definition of the law is bourbon. But if

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Speaker 2: I want it to be straight bourbon, it has to

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Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. You can read those. You can get

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Speaker 2: my book Let's Go Bourbon, available at Amazon dot com.

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Speaker 3: It's the rules, it's the law.

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Speaker 2: You cannot rush it if you want straight bourbon, and

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Speaker 2: utilizing the designation straight bourbon two years in the barrel, allowing.

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Speaker 3: The oak to infuse the juice. You cannot rush these things.

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Speaker 2: The world we would ever, ever, ever want are air

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Speaker 3: Who got rushed through the system. Don't want that in

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Speaker 2: So it's clear that we have this problem and that

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Speaker 2: the shutdown is continuing.

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Speaker 3: The problem. The question is.

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Speaker 2: Are the Democrats seriously considering extending the shutdown?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: What we had heard time and again and again and

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Speaker 2: End this all after the No King's rally. They were

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Speaker 3: Who that's who they are.

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Speaker 2: And then and then all right, we'll be done. And

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Speaker 2: then they win the elections. And now, as we all know,

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Speaker 2: I think we should keep this shutdown going and keep

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Speaker 2: this fight over Obamacare subsidies going. The Obamacare subsidies work

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Speaker 2: as follows. Obamacare was a terrible idea built on a lie.

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Speaker 2: Barack Obama lied to all of America about your healthcare

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Speaker 2: This didn't work, It never worked, can't work. Govern run

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Speaker 2: healthcare doesn't work well, Tony. What about European nations, smaller

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Speaker 2: That's the argument of the universal health care leadists.

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Speaker 3: That's their argument, die quickly now. If you are.

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Speaker 2: Somebody who remembers your history local a recent history. There

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Speaker 3: But he has spent time in Congress, and he.

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Speaker 2: Is the guy who said that the Republicans health plan

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Speaker 2: If we are honest about what happens in these socialist nations,

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Speaker 2: The Democrats believe in Obamacare, and what they believe in

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Speaker 2: is extending subsidies. Well, first of Obamacare was so great,

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Speaker 2: save that for another day. The Obamacare subsidies sunset at

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Speaker 2: the legislation known as the Inflation Reduction Act, which was

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Speaker 2: And so the Inflation Reduction Act had these subsidies that

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Speaker 2: They voted for this, they said, we understand that the

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Speaker 2: And now they have the audacity to say Republicans are

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Speaker 3: Look at the Republican health care crisis.

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Speaker 3: I don't do it. I'm not about to do that.

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Speaker 2: That seems criminally insane to me, so I'm not going

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Speaker 2: Good lord, somebody's got to somebody's got to get that

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Speaker 3: And this was worth the government shutdown.

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Speaker 2: Election victory in Virginia, where not only did they elect

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Speaker 2: that why should they Why should they stop the shutdown.

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Speaker 3: Let's keep it going.

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Speaker 2: Let's keep it going, Let's keep building on this, let's

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Speaker 3: The air traffic controllers aren't getting paid.

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Speaker 2: You'll have less and less of them, and pretty soon

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Speaker 2: there are gonna be snap benefits that a fifty percent

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Speaker 2: and say, look at what Republicans are doing.

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Speaker 3: If you lie enough, if you lie enough, you can

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Speaker 2: It's clear the Democrats have decided that if they can

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Speaker 2: This is what they're telling you as clear as day.

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Speaker 2: And so the message here has to change from the

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Speaker 2: in a different spot, and the messaging has to change.

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Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer with his trade face. It's Trump's fault.

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Speaker 2: He's the guy in the Senate keeping Democrats from voting.

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Speaker 2: There's a belief that twelve Democrats will come over and

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Speaker 2: there'll be some spending bills that happened, and then they'll

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Speaker 2: be a later vote on Obamacare subsidies, which I've always

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Speaker 2: to be seen as Look I care about you like

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Speaker 2: it's the populist thing to do, and I don't want it,

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Speaker 2: but he's gonna do it. Democrats want power more than

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Speaker 2: they want air. They don't care who they hurt in

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Speaker 2: the process. So get ready. This is going to be

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony k Ats today