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Speaker 3: And you see how these are, man, these niggas like

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Speaker 3: And that's what Tall was saying, like, man, I just

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Speaker 2: Damn? Brob be bad with names. Culture Culture United, shout out,

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Speaker 2: We clarify myself. Sahai has the most step babies in

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Speaker 2: pen is, in my opinion, one of the most lethal

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, We just talking bars. We're

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Speaker 2: like like you said, because he didn't say much that

432
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 2: we didn't already know. He just kind of personalized it

433
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 2: from his perspective to let you know how he felt

434
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 2: and what really happened, you know what I'm saying. So

435
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 2: I thought, if you're going to do something like this,

436
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: this is the way that you do it. I don't know,

437
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, what I took

438
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 2: away was this was respectful. Like I'm pretty sure he

439
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 2: could have been more disrespectful. I'm pretty sure he could

440
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,199
Speaker 2: have aired out more you know, nastier laundry than what

441
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,679
Speaker 2: he already put out there. But I think it was

442
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 2: very respectable to just say, hey, you know, like this

443
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 2: was a great moment in time and these are the

444
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 2: reasons why it didn't work.

445
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

446
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: Nah, Yeah, it was solid, bro, Like it was solid

447
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 3: because he said he also said, I was trying to

448
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 3: look up to get it get it.

449
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: Get ah.

450
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then he also said he said, yeah, he's

451
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 3: also made it seem like you know what, you thought

452
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 3: they just had me around just for the features. I

453
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 3: also was like, when of them dudes, like when them goons,

454
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 3: like a Benny Siegel type dude, and I ain't know that,

455
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 3: Like I remember I.

456
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 2: Went to a kind I saw him at.

457
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 3: A I think it was a yay Kanye West show

458
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 3: and he was like at the concession stand and I

459
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 3: was like, yo, shaw whatever, like like you know what

460
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Not many people recognize him, but I did,

461
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 3: and he was just smiling.

462
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 2: He was just cool. But but yeah, like knowing.

463
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 3: That this dude is probably like a real real street guy,

464
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 3: like he's actually one of them guys that's gonna protect

465
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 3: the click, like the Benny Seguels and all.

466
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 2: All those people.

467
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 3: So so yeah, I thought that was interesting the whole

468
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 3: Big Sean because I always forget that Big Sean was

469
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 3: tied to good music. I don't know why I forget that,

470
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: but yeah, he was absolutely tied to good music.

471
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: I totally forgot that.

472
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: And then like just just trying to think of like damn,

473
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 3: all these people aren't tied to them Travis Scott, Big Sean,

474
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 3: and I was just like.

475
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: Damn, yeah, yeah yeah it was it was good man.

476
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that good music. We might have to we might

477
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: have to do an episode on that on that period.

478
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: It looked like it should have been bigger than what

479
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 2: it was. Like Yeah yeah yeah.

480
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: It was man, Yeah, yeah yeah, We're gonna revisit that.

481
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah man. I thought it was dope. Man. I

482
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: think for me, the thing that I liked the most

483
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: was him showing that push It is a real straight

484
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: up dude bro.

485
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And that was no question for me.

486
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you know it, but like like you

487
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: you kind of you can see it, you know it.

488
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: People ain't really said anything, but for him to put

489
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: it on this track where he's talking about everybody else

490
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: and all the kind of the bullshit and fuck shit

491
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: and push It has been in this controversy here or

492
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: beef for whatever you want to call it, with Yay

493
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: and with Travis Scott, with Drake, and remember Drake couldn't

494
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: find anything on push It because there really ain't shit

495
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: to final pushing like that. So it kind of validates

496
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: a lot of things for him to say that he

497
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: did a track and didn't even charge him for it, right,

498
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, So yeah, I think that I think that

499
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: asks to push his reputation even more.

500
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, so pushing g the rulers, I would agree. He

501
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: never took a fee gaming him versus the hooks.

502
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: For free Man.

503
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

504
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, my book is even went up and that was

505
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: a good look for me. He's like he just kept

506
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: me going, like sign nice bro.

507
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just need to get the album, that's all

508
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: I know. I know at this point it's album time.

509
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 3: Bro.

510
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: This would been a good year to do it too,

511
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: because I mean everything's going up this year, bro, everything, Yeah,

512
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: so add to it be part of twenty twenty six

513
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: when we look back in history and the stories look

514
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: back like and they can talk about this year. And

515
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: if the album drops and it's a banger, yeah, you'll

516
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: be part of part of history.

517
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: There.

518
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 3: No Church on Sundays is really good. And then yeah,

519
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 3: he just needs something that's just gonna really hit because

520
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 3: I don't know what this what this track is doing.

521
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it circulating like that. I don't know

522
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 3: if y'all seen it. But I also haven't been paying

523
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 3: attention to the streets like that, so I don't know

524
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 3: how circulating what people are saying about it. I know

525
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 3: a lot of atensions on his fifty tr stuff still,

526
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 3: so yeah.

527
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people ain't really talking about it,

528
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: which is crazy. Yeah, which is which it's unfortunate, but

529
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: it's in line with Sahai, Like for whatever reason, Sahai

530
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 2: is just meant to be the nigga behind the curtain bro.

531
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 2: Like I don't know why, but it just seemed like

532
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 2: that's what it's supposed to be.

533
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 3: I feel like he just need that, he needs that

534
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 3: one track to get him, get him, to.

535
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: Get him out there. I don't know what it is.

536
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: I don't know what. Yeah, man, he just needs something

537
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: that can just kind of get him out there.

538
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: It's the album and it's the album being good and

539
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: as they like to do in present day classic instant

540
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: classic conversations, that that's what.

541
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 2: He needs and that's that's what he needs.

542
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah it's over, you know, it's over, Like yeah, yeah.

543
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's featured on Kanye West tracks like the

544
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 3: Good Friday stuff, and it's still because.

545
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: I was thinking like maybe he needs a good feature

546
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: like to like, yo, who was that dude? What well

547
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 2: think about? He talked, He talked about features being taken off.

548
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he did talk about that. You know what

549
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying, wanted to break? You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,

550
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: here a ghost writer.

551
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 3: So it's just like you don't want they don't want

552
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 3: to break.

553
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 2: Because like Watch the Throne at that point and time,

554
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: Like what the fuck was bigger than that at that

555
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 2: point in time? Bro? You know what I'm saying, Like,

556
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: like Jay, he has always been Jay, He's always been

557
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: top five, you know what I'm saying. Kanye was was

558
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: like was that that was like after my beautiful, dark,

559
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: twisted Fantasy before Kanye started getting weird, you know what

560
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like like it like that was a perfect

561
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: opportunity because what was Beyonce was on there? H Frank.

562
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: Impact to Watch the Throne? Crazy? Yes, taking so high

563
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: off in some next level hate bro.

564
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: And hey, what song did he say he was supposed

565
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: to be on.

566
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: Ship?

567
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: What song was that? But yeah, nah, man, look ro

568
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: I don't I think it's gonna take more than just

569
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: a feature or the song, you know what I'm saying.

570
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: But I don't know, man, I don't know. It's interesting

571
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: because he because he can write, like you know, when

572
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: one of Travis Scott's biggest songs, Like I wrote that

573
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: for him. I can't remember that. You know, I'm bad

574
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: with names, but like Sahi wrote that, So I don't

575
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: know bront I don't know what it's gonna take. You know,

576
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: Shi was when he was on the blook Self Freshman cover,

577
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: he was one of my guys. I'm like, oh, thisnik

578
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: is gonna blow up. I just never had mister Reid

579
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: and just never really got the opportunity.

580
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: Labels are known to do that too. They'll go sign

581
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: artists and then they'll just shove them and just put

582
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: them up, you know, in the back burner, then use

583
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: them like this is this is kind of common speaking

584
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: of well.

585
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: I think they're just afraid. I mean, if his rhymes,

586
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: if his raps are able to propel others, they're afraid

587
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: that if he puts it out himself, it's gonna propel him.

588
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: Like so, I can't put him in a spotlight, this

589
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: nigga writing for me. I can't put him in a spotlight.

590
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: You lose access to him too. Yeah that too, that too,

591
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: So shout out to Sahai Man. We're waiting on an album.

592
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: Hopefully it drops and hopefully it's a banger. We're gonna

593
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: keep a conversation going about albums, though, because your man's

594
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: your man's feet full of Russell stand against with him.

595
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: Bro said he's sold thirty thousand albums and that the

596
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: Billboard called him or poly Grim poly poly.

597
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: No, the company that does this stuff for for for.

598
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: Billboard, Illuminate, Illuminate, he said, Illuminate called him and said

599
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: this don't count. And he said that they said that

600
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 1: it didn't count because he asked people to buy it.

601
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: He's marketing promoted.

602
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, that's how he said, what you mean marketing

603
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: and promoting? Uh, this is a crazy, wild story, it is,

604
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: which doesn't make any damn sense at all.

605
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: And Ken, you know, you know, you know when when

606
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: I saw l Russell explain why they told him that

607
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: it didn't count, the first thing I thought of was, well,

608
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: how the fuck do you count jay Z's uh that

609
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: album when he automatically put it on the phone, Like,

610
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: is that not more egregious in terms of manipulating the sales?

611
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,719
Speaker 2: I said, And I still stand on it till till today.

612
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: I think it's an amazing business move. You know what

613
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: I'm saying to basically guarantee yourselves. You know what I'm saying,

614
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: if we can do it, yeah, to go platinum, find

615
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: fucking do it. Like I'm not gonna tell you not to.

616
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: But but what's the difference with Larussell? It's not as egregious,

617
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: like like, how can you say because I told my

618
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: fan base to go buy and if you buy it,

619
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: you know you get this, that and a third? Like

620
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: what is we talking about here? So to me like

621
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 2: like you know, back to the previous statement when we

622
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: were talking about you know, basketball and shit. You know

623
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: what I'm saying that numbers numbers don't lie, but it

624
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: depends on context. But the music game, bro Like, it's

625
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: highly manipulated. Like what the hell are we talking about

626
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: an independent artist telling his fan base I'm about to

627
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: drop go buy it, X Y and Z market and

628
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: promote my own shit, I sell thirty thousand if you

629
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: tell me it don't count? What in all? Honestly, I've

630
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: been feeling like this for a minute. But I'm I'm

631
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: I'm honestly just done with the music industry bro Like,

632
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: like like I'm ready for the industry to fall flat

633
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: on his face. I'm ready for the industry not to

634
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: be the industry anymore. I'm ready for more direct to consumer.

635
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: I'm ready for artists like Larrussell, like Depsey, like Currency,

636
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: like Larry June, all of these guys like Rock Marciano,

637
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: like thirty eight Spet that just sell direct to consumer. Man.

638
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: Fuck Makami, fuck all of his industry bullshit. Bro, Like

639
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: what is we talking about? Nigga? I sold thirty thousand, Nigga,

640
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: Give me my credit, bro, Like that's so fucking wild.

641
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: Bro.

642
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,239
Speaker 2: That's so wild, bro.

643
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean all of these artists that they push,

644
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: like with McDonald's fucking Happy Combo Mills and yeah, I

645
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: mean they pushed these artists in so many different ways

646
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 3: to get sales. And you're gonna you're you're you're gonna.

647
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: What's the word I'm looking for this dude.

648
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: You're gonna penalize this dude for But like you said,

649
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 3: basically marketing and promoting, you know what I'm saying, like

650
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 3: like incentivizing his his his buyers or whatever, like you

651
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 3: know what I mean Like that, That's that's wild, bro.

652
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: But but again, I've been on it for for a while. Man.

653
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 3: I just been on this like industry age ship, you know,

654
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, even when it comes to the Awars, honestly,

655
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 3: like all that ship yeah, like all the Wars, the

656
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 3: chart topping stuff like Nigga, all that shit is fabricated,

657
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 3: Like like you know what I'm saying, Like, don't don't

658
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: worry about that if you able to get to the

659
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: point because like I said, Nipsey has been doing it

660
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 3: for the for the longest.

661
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: He can give a shit about charting.

662
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 3: Nigga, he got dope because niggas buying an album for

663
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 3: such amount of dollars.

664
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: So it don't matter if you're charting.

665
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,479
Speaker 3: That's all that mattered, like like because then you're gonna

666
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 3: get wrapped up into this industry game at that point,

667
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: and now you just got to continue to play this

668
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 3: cycle game until they until they're done with you, you know.

669
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: So so yeah man, like nah nah, so so two

670
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: things right, Like I can't I want to say it

671
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: was either fifty or the Game that gave Limpsey this advice.

672
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 2: He was like, look, you know, don't sign no major deal.

673
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: I think it was fifty. He was like, hey, you're

674
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: in a major market. You know what I'm saying, La,

675
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: you don't have any history of sales so they can't

676
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: use that against you. They don't know how big or

677
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: how small you are, right because you never try to.

678
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: You never technically sold the album, So fuck that. You know,

679
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: stay independence, do what you do, and don't sign the

680
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 2: deal until it's right. And obviously that's what he did.

681
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: But this is more of a return question if you

682
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: want to answer it by all means right, But what

683
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 2: was it? What's the difference between the NBA picking songs?

684
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: Right?

685
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: And I don't know what their process is, but we

686
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: all know that during the playoffs it's hip hop based, right,

687
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: just like the French Montana and Max B song that

688
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: is dope that's on their collab project that came out.

689
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: You already know. I'm bad with names, so I can't

690
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: tell you the name, but it's the best joint that's

691
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: on there. It's already on on on the NBA promo.

692
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: What is the difference between the numbers that the NBA

693
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: gives you versus me telling my audience to go support

694
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: my shin what's the difference? So why are we kind

695
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 2: of one and not kind of the other?

696
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: Well, we're only hearing one side of the story, and

697
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: I would love to know, Like, what's the actual like

698
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: real reason did he bypass a certain process because if

699
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't really make any sense, did he not use

700
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: a skew for it to count? Like was it outside

701
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: of their system? And he just submitted himself that that

702
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: stuff matters though you can't.

703
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: But we're not talking like a mom and pop operation.

704
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: We're talking a nigga that just signed a rock nation.

705
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 2: We're talking about somebody that's been independently selling Hallo units

706
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: for a very long time. Like I'm not questioning the

707
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: man's business acumen ken.

708
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: No, not officially, but we still only hear heard him

709
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: telling the story from his perspective. Bro, you know how

710
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: it is. Man, they'll give them this whole convoluted like

711
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: answer of why they did not counting it towards the

712
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: string because they did the same shit to Travis Scott

713
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: and some other guys, because they pulled a very similar

714
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: tactic when they were bundling their stuff up. So I

715
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: don't know what the official real reason why they were disqualified,

716
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: and I would love to hear that from Billboard. It

717
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: would be nice for them to explain themselves. He could

718
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: have very well missed the step or thought that he

719
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: could just submit the data say hey, by the way,

720
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: I sold these albums and they're like, yeah you did, congratulations,

721
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: but you know they don't count because they were outside

722
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: of outside of our official process for tracking it. My

723
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: thing is, you still got the fucking album sales. Be

724
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: fucking happy, Like what why are you you are complaining

725
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: when you're like one of the top the independent artists

726
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: out there right now complaining? Yeah, real quick, real quick

727
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: can and just to answer it like like I mean,

728
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: they basically blunt like I know you said it's one side,

729
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, he said it was just due to unconventional

730
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: director director, fans sales model, and fans set pricing, So

731
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: that that's that was why you got disqualified pricing. It

732
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: could be due to his unconventional director fans sales model

733
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: and fans set pricing, And that would make sense for

734
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: and that would make sense to me, and I'll tell

735
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: you why, because the Billboard Charts system isn't set up

736
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: to count that yet, and so they have to find

737
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: a way to one count into this system if they

738
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: want to count it, and to try to find a

739
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: way to get money off of it too.

740
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 2: But ken it's counted is thirty thousand, bro, It's thirty thousand,

741
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: just put it on the fucking billboard.

742
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 3: Bro.

743
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: They ain't no fucking meed for no recounting nothing. We

744
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: all know it's thirty thousand counted towards the men. And

745
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 2: then you talking about why why did.

746
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: He showed it live? And he showed it live too,

747
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 3: like he showed all the sales live.

748
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, it was a counter and I think that

749
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: that's an issue too.

750
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: Oh you're fucking wild. And then you're talking about then

751
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: you're talking about why is he complaining can because at

752
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 2: the end of the day, look, let's be honest, bro,

753
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 2: every artist rap, right, I'm not talking all genres. I'm

754
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 2: just talking about rap. Bro. You know we some rap fans.

755
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: We know a little something about this, John, and I

756
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: don't give them what anybody says. If you make music, bro,

757
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: you want to move as many units as possible. Whether

758
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: you are considered commercial and the bandit underground, the goal

759
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: is to sell your You have a product. You're a

760
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:14,959
Speaker 2: salesman too.

761
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: That's right. He made themselves right, right.

762
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: That that's so count them that billboard to count the

763
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: damn ship because it's a measure of success.

764
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: We know what the measure of success.

765
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no, we don't know. We don't

766
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of different measures of success. Number

767
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: one being a Billboard charted artist, just like being Grammy

768
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: nominated and or Grammy winning. Ups your price, Bro, did

769
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 2: not did si? Hi not just say push a thank

770
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: you for the features because my bookings is better now,

771
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: My business is better now, So all of that ship

772
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: can affect your bottom line. Bro. And when when the

773
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: niggas at the top is playing in your face the

774
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: way that they're playing in La Russell's face, he should

775
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 2: be mad and you sided with the damn industry sounds

776
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: crazy as hell to be on debt in hip hop, Bro,

777
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: I thought we was no politics, no BS nigga, and

778
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 2: you on the politics and you on the BS.

779
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm asking a very legit question, and I'm

780
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: also stating that he's still sold thirty thousand dollars, I

781
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: mean thirty thousand units. And on top of that, Bro,

782
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: he Kyrie Irvin sent him eleven thousand dollars oh his

783
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: album Snoop sent to him and bought the album. Somebody

784
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: else paid four thousand, four centonds.

785
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: This thing have to do with thirty thousand sols that.

786
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: He's not losing out. He's still won at the end

787
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 1: of the day. So we need validation. Are you saying

788
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: that we need validation for the man? Is that what

789
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: you're saying? What I'm saying is which one is it?

790
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: Does he want to be fucking independent? Or do you

791
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: want validation from Bill?

792
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: No? Because that's the reason why he signed with rock

793
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: Nation number one can so he don't want to be

794
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: independent no more? And how how?

795
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: And did that help him in this process?

796
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: Because told him? But you can't blame him though, And yes,

797
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: I can't blame l Russell because he should have he

798
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: should have checked to see this. This is a this

799
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 2: iss did he did he sell thirty thousand?

800
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: Yes? Or no? He sold thirty thousand?

801
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: All right, so then I should be No, I should

802
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: be in the top five.

803
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: That's the album.

804
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: So that is work. That is your work, now politics

805
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 2: what you're talking about?

806
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: Then no, no, no no. If illuminates system for counting

807
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: albums does not include the way that Larrussell counts systems,

808
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: what that tells me and you and l Russell and

809
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: rock Nation that they have an out dated system that

810
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: they need to update moving forward if they want to

811
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: count them and what is there illuminate and what rock

812
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: Nation should have done was came to him and said,

813
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: by the way, if you sell it this way based

814
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 1: on everything that they know because they're plugged into the machine,

815
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: know that because of how they calculate and count album selves,

816
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: this will not be officially on the record.

817
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: Nigga, you sound like a goddamn politician. Cam who you

818
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: were you run? You running for in Mississippi? Bro? What

819
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: district you running for? Bro?

820
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, yeah, they just they need to update

821
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: the system. And right now, the way you sold it,

822
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: you know, it just wasn't part of the process to me.

823
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, that's a Billboard issue.

824
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: That's not a Larrussell issue.

825
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: Right, So l Russell right now because of Billboard's issue,

826
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: don't go on the Billboard charts. One plus one, Bro,

827
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: It's that simple.

828
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: It's not one. It doesn't take away from if it

829
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: doesn't take away from top five. But he beat he

830
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: beat showed in top five if one plus one Eagles two.

831
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, well, you know, but it but it

832
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: doesn't you know, it's still in his case. Yeah, it's

833
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: you know, maybe.

834
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: Okay, So it stops shraddling the fence. Is it fucked

835
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: up or not.

836
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: If that's the process, then no, it's not fucked up.

837
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: And he should have known that. Next topic, Bro, he

838
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: should have known that missed a politician. If he was

839
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: on his business, he would have known that. Yeah, but

840
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: solutor Low Russell Man, I mean ship thirty thousand, that's dope,

841
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: Kyrie calling you. He did a live stream. I think

842
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: the thing he did where he was counting it is

843
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: it was dope, like people showing up for this dude,

844
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,479
Speaker 1: and I think that's it's dope.

845
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: Honestly, it doesn't seem like he's mad about it. It

846
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 3: seems like he's just it's like, Yo, that's fucked up

847
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: because just based off he just he just wants to

848
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 3: report it and then show like this is what they're doing.

849
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, It's not going to stop

850
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 3: me from what I'm doing, per se, because at the

851
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 3: end of the day, he does have the Rock Nation deal,

852
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, which is a deal where

853
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: he still retains his masters and all his his his

854
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: masters and his.

855
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: UH and his publishing. So the deal that he did

856
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: with Jay is just the deal for like.

857
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 3: From uh infrastructure and stuff. So and just like uh

858
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 3: conversations with Jay on how to strategically market and things

859
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: like that, so that that's what his deal consists of.

860
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 3: It's not even like a traditional deal like that. Jay

861
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 3: is just trying to mentor him on how to grow

862
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 3: or whatever basis of what their.

863
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: Deal is and all.

864
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has he also gets Super Bowl involvement as well,

865
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 3: like being able to perform or something like that, So

866
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 3: I think Will Russell will still be good. I think

867
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: this was just him just just just airing out like, oh,

868
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: this is this is what they're doing. I think that

869
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: was his main goal, just to kind of show he's

870
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 3: like yeah, because because even in his monologue he was

871
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: just like, yeah, they picked the wrong person to do

872
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 3: this too, because I'm gonna tell it, you know what

873
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

874
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: And that's what he did.

875
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 3: He went on was like, look, I'm just gonna let

876
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: y'all know what they did. The ship didn't count, but

877
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 3: it ain't gonna stop me from moving.

878
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 2: So I think.

879
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: Honestly he's he's content with it because I think two feefle.

880
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: I think he knows the industry of some bs. I'm

881
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: sure Jay's told him like all of that already, like

882
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 3: they be on some bs, you know what I mean,

883
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 3: like like so so yeah, I think I think all

884
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 3: in all, he's not mad about it, He's just airing

885
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 3: it out.

886
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: I would if I'm him, I would I would ask

887
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: them what would I have needed to do in order

888
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: for it to count? What step did I missed? Like?

889
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: What what? And is this? Is there a way to

890
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: get this converted? I would also ask them and try

891
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: to get them to find a way for them to

892
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: update their system. And I would challenge it in all honesty,

893
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, because if their system, because here's here's the thing.

894
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: I think what Billboard has to do, and I think

895
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: the record labels and everybody there in a very very

896
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 1: precarious situation because of people because l Russell, we could say,

897
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: is a is a baby of Nipsey and and if

898
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: other people see this, and we do see it in

899
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: various scales, Boldie on streets, all these independent underground hip

900
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: hop rappers see them moving stuff that in the way

901
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: that they're moving this stuff could spread and start wiping

902
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: out the labels and finally people to do what Prince

903
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: has been doing. So at some point Luminate do they

904
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: do need to update the system, and they need to

905
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: work with Larussell and figure out how they can officially

906
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: count this stuff because it does need to be documented

907
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: officially somewhere, because they will end up being left behind

908
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 1: while the music artists move on, and then they will

909
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: become less and less relevant. And Billboard, which continues to

910
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 1: which is probably losing relevancy now, will become even less

911
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: relevant as well. So because direct to consumer is the

912
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: absolute model that's happening right now, and they'll figure it

913
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: out because they want a piece of their bread. So

914
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: I would definitely try to figure out because he's gonna

915
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: do it again, bro, So is that right? So you

916
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: need to figure out how you can if there's a

917
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: way this can count, and what the process is.

918
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 2: But my thing is this right? Is that?

919
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: Again?

920
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 2: Like I said previously, this is not all Larussell. This

921
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: is on Illuminade and Billboard and all of these other

922
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: entities and least commercialized institutions, because think about it, the

923
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: products or the technology that has been developed for director

924
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: consumer is being gobbled up by these institutions and they're

925
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: being commercialized. So if these if these places that these

926
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: independent artists are doing business is now institutionalized. Why doesn't

927
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 2: it count? You see you see so so you see

928
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 2: the slippery slope we're going down, Ken, All of these

929
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: places are starting to acquire these director consumer things, these vehicles,

930
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: even like even.

931
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: And even as a Warner UMG deal could even have

932
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: found a way with what they have to get this count.

933
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: And lor Russell owns a part of even Ken.

934
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: So he made money on man, you got to get

935
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: his business.

936
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: And this is and this is why and to me, Ken,

937
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: this is why like some of the vitriol I'm spewing

938
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 2: your way because this is not on lar Russell. This

939
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: is not all Ken. If anybody is going to be

940
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 2: a subject matter expert on how to move my ship,

941
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 2: it's going to be Larrussell. Bro. It's going to get

942
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: He moved it.

943
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: It just didn't count with Bill boor but but.

944
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 2: But again, but that's not a Larussell issue. That's the

945
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 2: systems issue. And this s in this system is acquiring

946
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 2: the vehicles that these independent artists are using to move

947
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 2: their units that way and needs to count.

948
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: An outdated system that Larrussell should have known. Larrussell should

949
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: have known that this ship was gonna count. Bro, Hey, man,

950
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: players fuck up too, man, it just slipped up. Well man,

951
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: it's Luther lo Russell. Bro.

952
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: I think I think Larrussell gonna be straight man, bill

953
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: Board Chartie and not.

954
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: You better be careful, Rod, you do it too much

955
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: out here.

956
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: Bro. We got here him, so he'll be all right.

957
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 1: Hey, Nipsey has some folks behind him too, and they

958
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: got him.

959
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:12,919
Speaker 2: Different lifestyle. That's a different lifestyle. Yes, lor Russell ain't

960
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: not about that life. Lor Russell not about that life.

961
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 1: Who says that that wasn't coordinated? Look, it's not conspiracy corner,

962
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: but it is interesting.

963
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 3: Well that's a that's a Nipsey disrespect that dude earlier

964
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 3: on that day. I mean that it's some it's some

965
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 3: history there, mm hmmm. I mean that's all game, that's

966
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 3: all game related stuff. But but yeah, the Russell is

967
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: out here just trying to live his independent life.

968
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: Man.

969
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I think I think signing that deal with

970
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 3: Jay and the mentorship that comes with that, I think

971
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 3: I think he'll be all right.

972
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: Jay are getting right, Bro. If j haven't called him already,

973
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: I'm sure has all them already. They retroactively count these right.

974
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jay gonna do something. I'm some watch watch mark

975
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 3: my words, mark my words. Some something's gonna happen. Something's

976
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 3: gonna happen. They got a lot of power, man, ye