1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: So you say you're in favor big picture of non 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: partisan map drawing. 3 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 2: Does that mean. 4 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Or how would you feel then about California taking action 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: if Texas does to redraw its maps, or your home 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: state of Illinois trying to redraw your maps if Texas 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: takes action. 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 3: Look, you can't have unilateral disarmament. You have to fight 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 3: fire with fire, otherwise the Republicans will rig the election. 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: They see the poem that's take place. The reason they're 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: doing this is they don't like the way things look 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: for the midterm elections, so to maintain power, they're trying 13 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 3: to draw maps in the middle of the census, which 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: was never anticipated for political reasons. So how do you 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: respond to that way? You have to fight fire with fire. 16 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: There is an alternative, and that should be our first effort. 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: That's what I'm offering my Republican colleagues past this bill. 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 3: I've served many terms in Congress in the minority, even 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: though far more Americans voted for a Democrat for Congress 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: than Republicans. We see the results here, the mess that 21 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 3: we're in. It shouldn't be this on either side, but 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: they're forcing the issue now, and we have to react on. 23 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 4: Every single subject and in every single place, a Democrat 24 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 4: will tell you that a Republican is trying to destroy democracy. 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 4: None of it is true, but they can't help themselves. 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 4: This is the only argument they've got. Tony Katz, Tony 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 4: Katz today, good to be with you and find everything 28 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 4: at Tony Katz dot com. Readdistricting in Texas. You would 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 4: think they were rewriting the constitution to ensure that everybody 30 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 4: eats three pounds of brisket at least once every two weeks. 31 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 4: Now that said, I would favor that constitutional amendment because 32 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 4: I think it would make people a lot happier. But 33 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 4: that's neither here nor there. I'm not responsible for people's happiness. 34 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 4: As long as I get to eat brisket every two weeks, 35 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 4: everything's going to be fine. The redistricting conversation in Texas 36 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 4: is not anything new. 37 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: It's not, as I see it. 38 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 4: Anything particularly interesting, except, of course, you have Democrats who 39 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 4: have decided to run away. This is happening right now. 40 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 4: You have got Texas Democrats who boarded I believe it 41 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 4: was a private plane and then flew themselves to Illinois 42 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 4: because they do not want to be in the state 43 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 4: to be there for the vote that would change the 44 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 4: congressional maps. This is actual audio of Democrats of an 45 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 4: elected office in Texas. 46 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: Now this isn't the. 47 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 4: First time this has happened. I believe Wisconsin Democrats did this. 48 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 4: They way to Illinois. Indiana democrats did this in twenty 49 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 4: eleven because of some union rules and they remove themselves 50 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 4: to Illinois. It is pathetic, it is sad, it is weak, 51 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 4: it is childlike. They should be laughed at for the 52 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 4: absolute children that they are, and they are absolutely children. Now, 53 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: refusing to attend the legislative session is a civil violation. 54 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 4: I'm not quite sure how Paxton, the attorney general or 55 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 4: the governor Greg Gabbott could put somebody in jail as 56 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: a matter of just the law. I don't know how 57 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: that works. Can someone be held in contempt? Well, that 58 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 4: is not something I have an answer to. Certainly interesting 59 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: as a concept, but leave all that to the side. 60 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 4: This is what Republicans are talking about when these Democrats 61 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 4: do indeed return. Let's get into the larger scale subject. 62 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 4: They left because they are not interested in seeing a 63 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 4: redrawing of the maps. But maps get redrawn. Their argument 64 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 4: is this is happening mid decade. This is not when 65 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 4: you're supposed to be doing this type of map drawing, 66 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 4: this should have already been done and complete. 67 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: I think the question before us is twofold. 68 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 4: Number one, how often does something like this happen? Exactly? 69 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 4: How many times in the past? And secondly, what would 70 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 4: be the rules about this? What are the real issues 71 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 4: involved here? The only issue that seems to be involved 72 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 4: for Democrats is that they are not going to have 73 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 4: what they want. Jerry Mandering is what we call redistricting 74 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 4: in a lot of places, happens all the time, and 75 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 4: I don't think any of us like it. I don't 76 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 4: think any of us actually want it. This idea that 77 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 4: districts are drawn in these very very odd shapes to 78 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 4: allow certain political parties to have more of an advantageous result. 79 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 4: I oppose jerry mandering because jerry mandering seems to be 80 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: a cabal between the parties to say, okay, you get this, 81 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 4: and we get this, and nobody steps on anybody else's turf. 82 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: It's like a ganglan detante. And that's not my interest. 83 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 4: My interest is here's the district, and it doesn't change. 84 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 4: This is always the district. Here are the boundaries of 85 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 4: the district. Here's from this pool. You vote for your 86 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 4: representation and that's it, and you can move districts. 87 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 2: That's far different than a district. 88 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 5: Moving on you. 89 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 4: It's a very Yakov Smirnov kind of line. And communists 90 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 4: Russia districts moves on you. That was that's a terrible impression. 91 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 4: I mean a scale of one's awful. 92 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: That was awful. 93 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 4: But I gets points for a Yakov Smirnoff reference. So 94 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 4: therefore it's it's it all balances out. And for those 95 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 4: of you who don't know Yakov Smirnoff, you might wanna 96 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 4: you might want to do I don't know, get get 97 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 4: to Google or wherever it is you do your searching. 98 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 4: The district changes. That's what jerry mandering does. And it's 99 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 4: gross that these members of the Texas House. 100 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 2: Are going to Illinois is hilarious. 101 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 4: Look at the Illinois map. It looks like too OCTOPI humping. Also, 102 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 4: can I get. 103 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: A little something for the plural of octopus? No? 104 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 5: No? 105 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: Oh sure, hump big is the you guys. You it's ridiculous. 106 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 4: It's tentacles over here, and it's this weird look over there. 107 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: It's nuts. 108 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,679 Speaker 4: Illinois is the state that rechange that change the districts, 109 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 4: that rewrote the districts to push out Adam Kinsinger after 110 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: he served on the J six Committee. Here he is 111 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 4: serving doing the thing attacking Trump and Illinois Democrats said 112 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: screw that Republican. 113 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: Oh uh no, nobody deserves it more. No one deserves 114 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: it more. 115 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 4: We see this everywhere, and I think that the vast 116 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 4: majority of the majority of us would say that stuff 117 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: stinks to high heaven. Of course it does. We don't disagree. 118 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 4: But the argument here is whether or not the party 119 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: in charge can engage this. Nobody is questioning the. 120 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: Legality of it. 121 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 4: That's the part that's interesting that you would call it rare. 122 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 4: Feel free knock yourself out. But you know what, no 123 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 4: one is saying, and I haven't seen this anywhere. No 124 00:07:54,880 --> 00:08:00,119 Speaker 4: one is saying that there is a legality issue. 125 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: None. 126 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: They're saying that it's political. Well, it might very well 127 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 4: be political. So, by the way, is the response. Now, 128 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 4: I have said this before many times about the political left. 129 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 4: When the political. 130 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: Left does something, you know, it's fine. 131 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 4: When you do something, it's a moral the same way 132 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 4: it can be said that when you do something, it 133 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 4: must be pointed out. When they do something, why are 134 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: you looking at us? Why are you always focused on us? 135 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 4: My gosha just about the culture wars. The left does 136 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 4: this all the time, which brings us to two very 137 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 4: worthwhile clips, the first being from Spartacus himself, Corey Booker. 138 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 5: I'm sick of the jerry mandering. But if Donald Trump 139 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 5: is going to push to jerrymander Texas, he's going to 140 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 5: break the rules in order to win. He can't win 141 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 5: by the rules they are right now, so he thinks 142 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 5: you should break the rules. For Democrats to sit back 143 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 5: and just say, Okay, we're going to play by the 144 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 5: queen's rules. No, I'm telling you right now we need 145 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 5: to and in the midterm we need to stop him 146 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 5: from cheating, from lying, and from stealing the election. And 147 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 5: if they're doing something to add their congressional seats, we 148 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 5: need to look at our ways of doing that right now. 149 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 4: First, I didn't know you were still allowed to talk 150 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 4: about stealing an election. 151 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: I thought that was for boten. Clearly I was mistaken. 152 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 4: You could talk about stealing elections now, absolutely fine, no problem, 153 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 4: no issue, totally Okay. Number two, we have to jerrymander. No, 154 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 4: they're not having the argument of we shouldn't be doing this. 155 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 4: They're having the argument of, well, if he's gonna do it, 156 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 4: we're gonna do it. The point is they're already doing it. 157 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 4: There's no question as to whether or not they're already 158 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: doing it. As a matter of fact, you've got Gavin Newsom, 159 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 4: the ridiculous, nonsense governor of California, who's applauding the escape 160 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 4: of these Democrats to Illinois. 161 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: Escape, I mean the cowardly running away. 162 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 4: And he put out a tweet this is what democracy 163 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 4: looks like. Oh holy hell, I don't like what's happening, 164 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 4: so I'm gonna run away. Is not so much democracy. 165 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 4: Newsom has said, well, if Texas redraws their map, will 166 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 4: withdraw the maps in California to get rid of all 167 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 4: Republican sees. These people aren't opposed to Jerry manderin. They're 168 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 4: only upset that they didn't get to it first, which 169 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 4: is weird because they've already been doing it. They're angry 170 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 4: with Republicans for doing the thing that they do. When 171 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 4: they do it, it's all fine and they love the country. 172 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 4: When you do it, you are a destructive force that 173 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 4: hates America. When they when Republicans act in a way 174 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 4: it is immoral. And when Democrats do the same exact thing, 175 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 4: the answer is, why are you looking at us? My gosh, 176 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 4: you shouldn't be talking to us. This is so weird 177 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 4: that you're talking us. Why are you staring at us? 178 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: Why are you always so obsessed with us? My gosh, 179 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 4: you and your culture wars, always, always, always, always, it's 180 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 4: this way. And if you want more proof that they 181 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 4: are down with this redistricting nonsense, this jerrymandering, that they 182 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 4: love it, this is the chair right here of the 183 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 4: Texas Democrats on CNN. 184 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 6: Because when we look at the maps and we look 185 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 6: at the states that are, you know, kind of prone to. 186 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: Jerrymandering, Illinois is one of them. 187 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 6: It's ranked among the worst by people who study these things. 188 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 6: And so you have lots of state houses around the 189 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 6: country that are going to be looking at what's happening 190 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 6: in Texas and saying, hey, maybe we can do that, 191 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 6: given how few are controlled by Democrats. What's you're concern here. 192 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 7: Well, Democrats would be the first ones to line up 193 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 7: to try to get federally recognized nonpartisan redistricting committees, but 194 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,119 Speaker 7: Republicans will never be on board trying to get that accomplished. 195 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 7: We see lots of Democratic states where they've done that 196 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 7: and Republican states where they haven't, and all it's done 197 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 7: is cripple Democrats from their ability to be competitive. I 198 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 7: hope that blue states across the country see this is 199 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 7: a signal flare and start carving up their own seats 200 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 7: because Democrats have to stop trying to be the only 201 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 7: adults in the room. When Republicans are not willing to 202 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 7: play fair and Republicans are not willing to make sure 203 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 7: that everyone gets has a seat at the table and 204 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 7: is able to be heard, then we need to stand 205 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 7: up and. 206 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 5: Fight back with Gusto. 207 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 7: And I hope that blue states around the country are 208 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 7: taking notice and that they're going to step forward and 209 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 7: start carving up their states as well. 210 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 4: First things first, I'm pretty sure it's Gusto fighting back 211 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 4: with Gusto's. 212 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 7: Able to be heard. Then we need to stand up 213 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 7: and fight back with Gusto. 214 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, your radio works fine, that's just embarrassing. 215 00:12:55,400 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 4: Kendall Scudder, chairman of Texas Democratic Party. He's saying carve 216 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 4: it up. He's saying do it. And he may call 217 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 4: what Republicans are doing illegal but there is no conversation 218 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: about it being illegal. He just doesn't like the fact 219 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 4: that Democrats aren't the ones doing it. If Democrats do it, 220 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 4: it's because it's fair and equitable. If Republicans do it, it's 221 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 4: evil and they're trying to destroy the country. You have 222 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 4: never understood the arguments as clearly as what they are 223 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 4: presenting right here, and understand that I'm with you. This 224 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 4: is a different conversation whether or not we like the 225 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 4: jerry mandering to begin with. 226 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 2: I think we could all be like, yeah, we think it's. 227 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 4: Ridiculous, but the idea that it's new is not new. 228 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 4: And if we were having the honest conversation that what 229 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 4: Illinois does and what Texas might be doing is ridiculous, 230 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 4: that would be one thing that's not the conversation. The 231 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 4: conversation is how dare Republicans do what it is that 232 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: we do? And now we have to pretend that it's 233 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 4: the most outrageous thing in the world when it happens clearly, 234 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 4: and we have to threaten to do what they're doing 235 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 4: if they don't stop doing what we already do. My god, 236 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 4: you wonder why we drink bourbon. I'm Tony Katz. This 237 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 4: is Tony Katz today