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Speaker 1: We are alive. It was good.

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Speaker 2: Everybody was good. Everybody already. Welcome to another Dead and

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Speaker 2: Hip Hop live.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: We try to do these every Wednesday, nine p m.

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Speaker 3: Eastern Standard Time. I'm your host, Rod aka Modest Media.

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Speaker 2: I am not here alone.

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Speaker 3: To the left of me, since we're still virtual right now,

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Speaker 3: got Kenneth.

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Speaker 1: B And that's good man, all love.

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Speaker 2: And to the right of meet man.

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Speaker 3: Y'all seen this dude, Man, y'all seen this dude Onno

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Speaker 3: man brings a really really dope perspective.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: I really I really like this guy man, Like he uh,

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Speaker 3: really great mind.

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Speaker 2: Like I've seen you guys like him too, Like I've

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Speaker 2: seen the comments. So yeah, man, we had.

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Speaker 3: To bring them back. They had to bring them back

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Speaker 3: for another another. I don't know if you've ever done

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Speaker 3: a live with us, but.

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Speaker 2: I guess I'll let him get into that.

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Speaker 3: But before before I let him get into that, I

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Speaker 3: just want you to reintroduce yourself to the people that

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Speaker 3: may not know you.

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Speaker 2: Bro. Who are you? Brother?

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Speaker 4: All right, allow me to reintroduce myself.

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Speaker 1: My name is.

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Speaker 5: Red but naw man. Shout out to Deaden for having

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Speaker 5: me again. It's always a blast with the fellas. Ma'am

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Speaker 5: j Red.

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Speaker 4: My name is Jay Red. That is my name. You

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Speaker 4: can catch me.

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Speaker 5: I'm the host of Redsview that I do every week

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Speaker 5: YouTube dot com slash at Redsview.

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Speaker 4: Also, I'm the co host of Who Gave You A Podcast?

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Speaker 4: That is the show that I have with my other

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Speaker 4: host c J aka Animal Brown. You can find us

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Speaker 4: on YouTube dot com slash at Who Gave You a Podcast?

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Speaker 4: And we get it in Man. So I'm happy to

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Speaker 4: be here. Nonetheless, let's do.

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Speaker 3: It for shure Bro. Happy to have you here, brother,

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Speaker 3: and for everybody else.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 3: You might see we're missing a person. Yeah, it's it's interesting.

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Speaker 3: I saw some people in the comments they realize what's

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Speaker 3: going on right now. Man is not here right now,

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Speaker 3: and that is because he's currently doing a live with

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Speaker 3: you know, a friend of the show.

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Speaker 2: He's definitely been on our show before. We definitely uh

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Speaker 2: met up with him in California before. Man, so we

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Speaker 3: But the company Man, he's currently doing his Culture United show,

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Speaker 3: and it's kind of conflicting, you know what it feels like, King,

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Speaker 3: It feels like like Cosme Show and Simpsus back in

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Speaker 2: That time.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, man, definitely want you know, hope you guys

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Speaker 3: stay here to support our show. But if if you

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Speaker 3: are going over there, if you have been over there,

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Speaker 3: definitely understand if you want to catch fre and his

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Speaker 2: Man, really good. Good to have that dead of hip

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Speaker 2: hop representation on that Culture United show.

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Speaker 3: He's killing it right now, you know what I'm saying. Like,

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Speaker 3: so I'm very proud of the boy Fifo. And I

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Speaker 2: You know, we won't keep y'all.

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Speaker 3: On man stick stick around. We're gonna talk about the

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Speaker 3: lar Russell thing. Man Russell thing that's going on right now. Geez,

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Speaker 3: Like I almost we were talking before we try to

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Speaker 2: It's just like, man, it's slow news this week.

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Speaker 3: And then Ken, I think you brought it up. It's like,

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Speaker 3: Man. But before we get into that, man, I just

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Speaker 3: want to say, Yo, this is a super chat, so

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Speaker 3: so make sure you send in those super chats right now.

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Speaker 3: If you want your voice to be heard on the show,

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Speaker 3: we will give you to like nine twenty five to

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Speaker 3: those in now, and we will answer those questions, you know.

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Speaker 2: Call out those statements whatever you sent in.

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Speaker 3: Man, we'll definitely address it towards the letter end of

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Speaker 3: He went viral after sharing his thoughts on Little Wayne

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 3: Uh a journalist that journalists that don't you know, did

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Speaker 2: He did say that it was more to it.

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Speaker 3: He didn't release the video saying like that wasn't the

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Speaker 3: It was like eight minutes or whatnot where he you know,

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Speaker 2: So I just want to make that clear, That's what

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be respect I want to be

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Speaker 1: Or the context.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, full context that, Yeah, he did come back out

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Speaker 3: and was like, yo, nah bro, Like, Wayne is somebody

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Speaker 3: I used to write down lyrics and bars, but you can't.

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Speaker 2: You already know. It only takes one one comment for

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Speaker 2: And I think that's what's happened. So J red Man,

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Speaker 5: So when I first heard it, uh, I felt that

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Speaker 5: he was right and wrong at the same time. Right

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Speaker 5: in the in the sense of Wayne as we know

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Speaker 5: know does not have substance. That's not what he's known

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Speaker 5: heard was Wayne has absolutely no substance. He's never made

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Speaker 5: a song with substance. That's all people heard, right, But No,

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Speaker 5: what he said was when I got mature, I started

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Speaker 5: may be. So he's right in that sense of when

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Speaker 5: That's how he became dominant. When he's on killing features

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying pretty much you can put

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Speaker 5: it in a box. Shoot him up, bang bang blood,

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Speaker 5: gang Pussy, I Eat Pussy, I do this to put

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Speaker 5: when he was sitting down writing, Yeah, he had more substance.

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Speaker 4: Also had songs like I Missed My Dolls. Yeah, we

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Speaker 5: Wayne has songs with substance, how to love and all that. Right,

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Speaker 5: But to be real, what we know Wayanne for now,

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Speaker 5: steady mobn Wing, a million Wing, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: And when you get older, see the fan base grew,

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Speaker 5: grew and then when.

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Speaker 4: You grow up, you start.

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Speaker 5: You know, those songs don't hit you the same when

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Speaker 5: you were drinking takovaka in college.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So now if you're like a cavasierate drinker, you know,

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Speaker 5: and listen to those tracks, it doesn't hit you like

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Speaker 5: Would you know what I'm saying, Like substance, It matters

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Speaker 5: meant to say, and people just derailed her, of course,

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Speaker 5: but I did listen to the eight minute clip of it. Uh,

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Speaker 5: it didn't change anything.

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Speaker 1: It didn't really, it didn't.

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Speaker 5: All it did was just how like, Yeah, he praised them,

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Speaker 5: but he gave him some criticism. And it ain't like

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Speaker 5: he called him trash, but he said what what's real?

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Speaker 5: He didn't say nothing that everybody else doesn't say. So,

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Speaker 5: you know, like I said, he's right, but wrong in

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Speaker 5: I don't think he was saying he has absolutely no substance.

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Speaker 5: That's not true, but in the sense of maturing the

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Speaker 2: Gotcha, what about you Ken when you got winned this man?

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Speaker 2: What was your take on it?

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Speaker 6: I don't if you remember, but the first time we

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Speaker 6: UH they would hear that conversation on the Patreon episode

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Speaker 6: behind the Scenes stuff. We had that conversation and we

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Speaker 6: all right, right whatever, you know, it's it's uh, it's

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Speaker 6: l Russell talking like you know, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 6: we're really going to take his opinions all that serious?

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Speaker 1: Like why are we listening to Larrussell?

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Speaker 6: You know, That's what I was trying to figure out,

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Speaker 6: you know, you know, I was like, what's going on here?

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Speaker 6: But it's a lot of how they framed it. And

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Speaker 6: he just signed this thing with UH Rock Nation, which

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Speaker 6: saluted him. Uh, congrats on that deal he just rolled out.

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Speaker 6: He just announced another deal today with even which is

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Speaker 6: him on that. L Russell as he's like a happy,

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Speaker 6: lot of things for the business.

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Speaker 1: He's directed to consumer. People love him. People loves him,

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Speaker 1: and so he wasn't use to the internet whooping his

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Speaker 1: he was not wrecked.

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Speaker 6: I mean, responding day after day till finally today he

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Speaker 6: was like, you know what, I give up fuck it, y'all. Look,

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Speaker 6: he even made it a college video. He did what

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Speaker 6: we did when we talked about Jay Cole. He went

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Speaker 6: and made a whole other video he uploaded and then

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Speaker 6: he was like, you know what, I'm over it, y'all.

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Speaker 1: It's fine. If y'all don't want to listen to the

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Speaker 3: So I thought that was funny and entertaining and watching

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Speaker 6: I don't know why he was surprised that and so

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Speaker 6: It was greaty, Like they must have forgot who this

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Speaker 1: Tricked a lot of people into thinking that, and you're saying, long.

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Speaker 3: Man, kid, I was probably one of them believers. It's like, man, yeah, Wayne, dude,

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Speaker 3: Like it's like, yeah, he definitely bought it to it.

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Speaker 2: But I want to say, man, like when you tell

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Speaker 3: I was like, yo, because because because I've been seeing

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Speaker 3: say man, I'm like, damn man, that's crazy. But real quick, everybody,

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Speaker 2: Boy. They was just like, nah, this is this is.

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Speaker 5: And the thing is, that's why I think Will Smith

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Speaker 5: So with this situation, I think l Russell is just

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Speaker 5: But what he was saying was absolutely true. I think

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Speaker 5: it's just cool to kind of not like him right

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Speaker 5: now because of that Rock Nation thing. That's what I

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Speaker 5: Did y'all see that? I don't know what I say. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: So I'm like, where y'all seen people who were just

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Speaker 5: And then it's like who is Larrussell? That's what he

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Speaker 3: Like this this really like put a kink in his

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Speaker 2: Which is what Kim was just saying, Like who is.

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Speaker 3: Period Uh, so the conversation had shifted from Lil Wayne

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, man, like what do you think, Well.

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Speaker 6: You know, he's he has Look, I think he has

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you watch you watch if you watch his

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Speaker 6: He's a more uh you knows, he's kind of like

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be a whole lot of people that's gonna

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Speaker 6: which what year of Low Wayne and were talking about?

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Speaker 1: So you know that all depends too.

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Speaker 6: So I get it, and I get the aggregation from

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Speaker 6: That remains to be seen because now you've got rock

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Speaker 6: Like somebody please prove where he said something wrong. That's

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Speaker 6: the thing I haven't seen anybody. People are tweeting out

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Speaker 6: What percentage is that the man.

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Speaker 1: Is not wrong at all? And that's right, Rob.

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Speaker 6: We did a whole damn video about lol Wayne versus

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Speaker 6: So but we're not the rustle when we haven't signed

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Speaker 1: But everybody knows this.

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Speaker 6: So Jay ready, you make a good point when you said,

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Speaker 6: Now everybody was like, oh my god, lo Wayne is

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Speaker 6: When it was Kendrick, you know during the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: Well my thing is this too.

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Speaker 5: Because a lot of times when you say what's real,

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Speaker 5: But as I got older, his music just didn't have

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00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 5: the substance that you know, I thought that it did have,

442
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 5: because that's pretty much what he was saying. He's like,

443
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 5: in the time frame you going in, you like, oh,

444
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 5: this is crazy, But then when you look back, he

445
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 5: really wasn't saying nothing.

446
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 4: But who has like who is qualified?

447
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 5: I guess that's the thing, because that's what I get sometimes, Oh,

448
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 5: you're not qualified to speak on that. You're not qualified

449
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 5: to say that. So does that mean if I went

450
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 5: platinum in a week like Lil Wayne, that means that

451
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 5: I am qualified?

452
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

453
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 5: That's what just irks me when it comes to like,

454
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 5: you know, talking about music, critique of music and stuff

455
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 5: like that.

456
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 6: Sold let's throw out some names and we'll just throw

457
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 6: out names that everybody know. Could Kendrick say something, or

458
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 6: take Cole or Drake. Let's go old school that had substance?

459
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 6: What about Chuck d you know, could he say something

460
00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 6: and people listen? You know, it's whole discography is nothing

461
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 6: but substance, right and what people listen.

462
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 1: But his age could be deterrent because.

463
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 6: Now he's an old head. Nobody want to listen to

464
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 6: you man, know whatever, whatever, So that could turn people off.

465
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,959
Speaker 6: Ken Kendrick is tough because what a Kendrick do. Kendrick

466
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 6: grew up listening to Wayne. Kendrick emulated Wayne, as did

467
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 6: a whole bunch of rappers.

468
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: You know.

469
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 6: J Cole could try to say something, but we all

470
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 6: know he'll apologized like Roll Russell did later, so he

471
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 6: wouldn't stand by it, and nobody's gonna take him serious either.

472
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 6: So I don't know if there's a rapper that that's

473
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 6: in this space, like I think, you would have to

474
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 6: have a really really good balance. What's a rapper that

475
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 6: has substance and party music and a good mixture of both.

476
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: And it doesn't have to be fifty to fifty, you.

477
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 6: Know, it could be seventy thirty, maybe even eighty twenty,

478
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 6: you know, But I don't know who that rapper is

479
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 6: right now.

480
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

481
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for one, like you said, I don't know

482
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: if you said it, but it would have to be

483
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 3: someone that came before Wayne. I don't think any of

484
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 3: his peers can criticize in that way, honestly, Like I

485
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 3: just I just think that's I don't know, that's a

486
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 3: little tacky, like I guess, but someone that came before

487
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: you could say something. So yeah, I don't know who

488
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 3: that person is. Man ll that's.

489
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 5: The thing, the old the old head thing. I think

490
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 5: the only quote unquote old head that could say something

491
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 5: to get away with it. Well, this climate is crazy.

492
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 5: But jay Z for example, right jay Z, if he

493
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 5: puts out an album to this day it's relevant, it'll

494
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 5: probably it'll go number one.

495
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

496
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 5: He still has that relevant c So the the gen

497
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 5: zers will probably call him an old head, but hip

498
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 5: hop or respective verse just like a Chuck D that

499
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 5: but oh you eighties rapper, you know what I'm saying.

500
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: And maybe Nas too.

501
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 4: Nas could probably say something because he's well respected.

502
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 3: But yes, somebody in the comments just said, at least

503
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 3: a girl ninety five she said Nas question ifs.

504
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 5: Could yeah, Nas, because see Nas and jay Z don't

505
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 5: feel like old.

506
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 4: His versus somebody like you could label that with a

507
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 4: Loo cool J. You could label that with KRS one.

508
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 4: Anybody who started you know what I'm saying.

509
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 5: But with somebody that, like even if Eminem said some

510
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 5: of that, the only thing they'll say, okay, you white.

511
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, that'll come up.

512
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 5: But I think anybody who to this day, if they

513
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 5: drop an album, is gonna be talked about like Nas.

514
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 5: Even though Nas doesn't have high first week sales anymore,

515
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 5: mainly because he's independent, he's still When him in Primo

516
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 5: dropped that album, everybody was talking about it, whether good

517
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 5: or bad.

518
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 4: You know, I think that's who still has to say.

519
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 4: So t I maybe what about Ti I?

520
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 3: I don't know if Ti I could because I think

521
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 3: Ti I got songs in the same vein, right, So

522
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 3: it has to be somebody that's had a fairly clean

523
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 3: lyrical career that came before Wayne, because I don't even

524
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 3: know if TA came before Wayne did, so yeah, t

525
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: I couldn't either. For me, man, it has to be

526
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 3: somebody that came before Wayne. It cannot be nobody that

527
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 3: came up with him or after, definitely not after to

528
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 3: actually criticize them, like you know what I'm saying. So,

529
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: but what I what I want to do before we

530
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 3: get into super chats and then if they wanted to

531
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 3: bring up one more thing, because we kind of talked

532
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: about how he You know, it's one thing to not

533
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: rap about nothing I have like a bunch of substance, right,

534
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 3: But it's another thing when you say things like, you know,

535
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 3: how his music is destructive, violent themes saying things like that, Now,

536
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 3: that could have been part of what people had an

537
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 3: issue with that that that he was saying stuff like that,

538
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: you know, influencing you towards gang culture because you can,

539
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: you can pinent on a lot of people, right, Like,

540
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 3: so you know, I know they were talking about Wayne,

541
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 3: but I mean, you know, hip hop as a whole

542
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 3: from the inception, not not the inception, but like NWA

543
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 3: Times and stuff like that has always talked about have

544
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 3: like kind of glorified that. So you know, Wayne, Wayne

545
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 3: could have just been pulling off those influences to create music.

546
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 2: Right. So, how do y'all feel about that part about

547
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: what he said about you know, because that that that

548
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: goes a little deeper.

549
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: Into his comments, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah

550
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 3: it does.

551
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: And so one of the clips I watched, he he.

552
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 6: When he made those comments, it seemed very much like

553
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 6: you was speaking from personal experience, and he said, whatever,

554
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 6: it was some video he put up where he's walking

555
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 6: along the street. Somebody was recording it, and lord knows,

556
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 6: I don't know what shoes he had on, but all

557
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 6: I could hear was his shoes clicking every damn stuff

558
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 6: he took.

559
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: So I would love to know what the hell he

560
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: was wearing.

561
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 6: But he said that he was influenced by Wayne to

562
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 6: do those things himself, So he's right in the sense

563
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 6: that it influenced him, Like there were things that influenced

564
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 6: me while I was growing up listening to music. Music

565
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 6: is influential, but Wayne's not the only one. And I

566
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 6: think that's where he misses the mark with it, you know.

567
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 6: So it's difficult to spend six minutes talking glowingly about

568
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 6: Wayne and just one minute not and that being part

569
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 6: of the whole conversation, and having Wayne fans jump out

570
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 6: of the woodworks, and even rappers and producers like either

571
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 6: coming to Wayne's defense or agreeing with what was said.

572
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: So but nevertheless, man Bro, like the.

573
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 6: The the Lean movement, Luke movement with two live crew,

574
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 6: Like there's been all kinds of things that have happened

575
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 6: in hip hop that can be pointed to as destructive.

576
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: But for every song like that, there's an opposite song.

577
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 6: But unfortunately those are the songs that don't get a

578
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 6: lot of attention.

579
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that mainly he was speaking from

580
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 5: his experience from his generation, right, because the conversation, it's

581
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 5: not like he brought up Lou Wayne.

582
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 4: They said that Lil Wayne.

583
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 5: The topic was on the show and somebody's cousin to

584
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 5: somebody distance something like that, right.

585
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: Somebody was on their show.

586
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, somebody was on the show before and they

587
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 6: were just they just destroyed Lil Wayne.

588
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 5: Right, So then that just sparked a conversation versus him

589
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 5: going out there. You know what, Lil Wayne really wasn't

590
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 5: rapping about nothing, you know what I'm saying. No, it

591
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 5: was just a conversation. But yeah, the whole destructive thing

592
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 5: in rap, you could label label that with different rappers

593
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 5: from generations, like different generations and stuff, you know what

594
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like they'll say Tupac went too far talking

595
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 5: about that's why f your bitch, you know what I'm saying.

596
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: All that stuff.

597
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 5: So, so the thing is, I don't think he was

598
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 5: necessarily beating up on Wayne. He was talking about an

599
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 5: individual because that was the topic of discussion. So we

600
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 5: do this every every other year, you know what I'm saying.

601
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 5: They'll talk about somebody. You know, they did it with

602
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 5: n WA, they did it with Snoop, they did it

603
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 5: just with everybody hip hop in general. But you know,

604
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 5: to the Russell's defense, he wasn't beating up on Wayne

605
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 5: like it's portrayed to be. But also, like I was

606
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 5: saying earlier, if I was him, I'd just be like,

607
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 5: you know, I said what I said.

608
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 4: I salute him, you know what I'm saying.

609
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 5: But I know in his mind and his publicist or whatever,

610
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 5: just like you don't, you know, this is a real

611
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 5: bad look, you know what I'm saying, Like you need.

612
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 4: To hear or fix this.

613
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 5: I mean, you just got this rock Nation thing that's

614
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 5: going on, but this, you know, you're saying about that.

615
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 5: That's why he's he's crashing out on social media about this.

616
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, you feeding into it. I think is

617
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 5: just gonna make it worse because it wouldn't be talked about.

618
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 5: If he wouldn't have said nothing that would have last

619
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 5: for like a day at most in today's climate.

620
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: And now I feel you with that with that point

621
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 3: said like this would be my last thing.

622
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: Like how how do y'all think this will ultimately affect it?

623
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: With this blowover?

624
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 3: It's people gonna be like heavily criticizing him now with

625
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: his music, Like is.

626
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: This really going to affect him?

627
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: Because he because he's on a he's he was on

628
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: a on a really nice trajectory like of like name

629
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 3: buzzing stuff like that, and now is it really isn't

630
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 3: a bad light even with him trying to come out

631
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: and trying to do some do some pr like you

632
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, just some some some fixes or whatever.

633
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, how y'all what do y'all think what the

634
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: future of Larrussell looks like?

635
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: Now?

636
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 5: It really depends on if he's trying to do the

637
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 5: mainstream thing, see if he's on his Nipsey hustle thing,

638
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 5: meaning like you know, Nipsey was on his way up,

639
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 5: but Nipsey still kind of felt independent even though he

640
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 5: was on Atlantic. Like if Larussell sticks to his fan

641
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 5: base right and his core audience, it ain't gonna affect him.

642
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 5: But this is a bad look because this is a

643
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 5: lot of people's first time knowing who he is. So yeah,

644
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 5: on that end, it can affect him to build a

645
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 5: newer following, right, but for what he has already, Like

646
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 5: mc miller, it felt like he had his own church.

647
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 5: It feels like Nipsey had his own church. Larussell gives

648
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 5: me that same feeling versus somebody like a little baby

649
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 5: dub baby. You know what I'm saying. When the baby

650
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 5: did his thing, the whole industry crashed on him, and

651
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 5: he hadn't been the same since.

652
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, lo realer needs the end industry.

653
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 5: L Russell rubs me off as Okay, I got a

654
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 5: little bit more spotlight. But I don't know how far

655
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 5: he was trying to climb, you see what I'm saying.

656
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 5: But I think that it won't affect him, it won't

657
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 5: make him lose fans.

658
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: I'll say that.

659
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what the nation sign.

660
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 3: It felt like he was trying to climb a little

661
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: higher than his than his his region, right. It seemed

662
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: like it seemed that way because it seemed like he

663
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: was in a comfortable spot. You know, I looked at

664
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: this very cal He got so many hours, it's like crazy.

665
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: So he got his own thing popping, So it looked

666
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: like he was just trying to go out a little

667
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: further ken.

668
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: Where are you man? Like, what do you what do

669
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: you think? Is it over before it starts?

670
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 6: I that that that the baby comment was interesting because

671
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 6: he's still trying to come back and I heard people

672
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 6: like the album, but I don't know what happened.

673
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 3: But anyway, it's a little sparks here and there, but

674
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: like everyone trying to catch it won't can't get smarked.

675
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 6: And he just came out and said that that was

676
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 6: the best thing to happen to him. So I gotta

677
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 6: hear what he meant by that, because that's an interesting

678
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 6: perspective because anyway, but his situation was was different in

679
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 6: the sense that, you know, you know, all the stuff

680
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 6: he said in a in a very canceled culture type

681
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 6: of environment, he can probably get away with it in

682
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 6: this administration.

683
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: With l Russell. I think with the Rock Nation deal.

684
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 6: Rock Nation is so smart is they find people that

685
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 6: are independent that they don't really have to do much work,

686
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 6: so they're gonna come in and be able to kind

687
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 6: of make money off the work that they've done, but

688
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 6: also expand their reach into places that they can't get

689
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 6: to just off the name. And it worked with this

690
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 6: viowl clip because that was one of the things that

691
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 6: Larussell was pointing out. It was the leading thing that

692
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 6: was being aggregated and if he didn't have that Rotten

693
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 6: Nation thing, people probably would have left the plip where

694
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 6: it was. So it's also a shot for them to

695
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 6: be able to also take a shot.

696
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: At jay Z two as well.

697
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 6: I think with Lrussell and with any business you also

698
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 6: you always want to do partnerships, even with companies you

699
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 6: may think, well, I won't say always, but they know

700
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 6: what I mean. People take that literally, then that's their

701
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 6: problem because if you look at and I'll give you

702
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 6: an example of partnerships of two companies that were competing

703
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 6: Apple Microsoft at Sale eventually Microsoft Office was eventually on

704
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 6: Max and they were competing is one another, but it

705
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 6: just made business sense for them to work together to

706
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 6: make more money. So for him to partner with rock

707
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 6: Nation to further his endeavors, then it made sense for

708
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 6: him him to do this deal with even with UMG,

709
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 6: it just makes sense as long as he retains ownership

710
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 6: and equity of everything. So it's it's worked out because

711
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 6: of the span of his reach. It has exposed him

712
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 6: to a lot more people.

713
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: But you know, on the.

714
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 6: Flip side, there were people that never checked out Larussell's

715
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 6: music that want to go check it out, either to

716
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 6: hate or he may walk away with a new fan.

717
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 6: And I'll give you an example. Nicholas Craven just put

718
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 6: out an album with Rod helped me out. Nicholas Craven.

719
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 3: Oh, with Ransom not not not the Ransom Boldie?

720
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: Who else did he do something with?

721
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 6: I think that was he just I mean, it just

722
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 6: was just talking about it.

723
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: I think it is. I think it is. I think

724
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: it is. I think it is.

725
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 6: But but he was on Twitter talking about it, and

726
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 6: I mean it's public, so I'm I mean him and

727
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 6: somebody else was just going. But no, he was actually

728
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 6: in support of Wayne, but he was. He tweeted, what's

729
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 6: some of Larrussell's best songs? With all these conversations going on,

730
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 6: I might as well check his music out before all this.

731
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 6: Nicholas Craven then give two shits about l Russell. And

732
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 6: I'm sure Larrussell. L Russell has been around for a minute.

733
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 6: Everybody knew who he was or seen his name. Now

734
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 6: because of this viral controversy. People are going to check

735
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 6: it out. Nicholas Craven may walk Away were like, hey,

736
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 6: that wasn't that bad.

737
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: Look at Mike. Mike heard one song and said, well.

738
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 6: Y'all got to listen to the Patreon episode to see

739
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 6: what he's saying about that.

740
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: But there are people now actively.

741
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 6: Checking out l Russell's music, and some people will like it,

742
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 6: some people will not. And so I think it's working

743
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 6: out for so willis pro and I think it's going

744
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 6: to raise his profile.

745
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: From here.

746
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 6: Everybody's gonna be following with this dude is doing now

747
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 6: because they're waiting for another viral thing.

748
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: He probably just we'll give it to him.

749
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,479
Speaker 5: He could also do this if he do a song

750
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 5: with Wayne, which is the ideal smart thing to do.

751
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: This all goes away.

752
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 4: That's what twenty one Savage in NAS did.

753
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 5: Remember twenty one Savage said that bs about Nas and

754
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 5: then with like a day or two, I didn't really

755
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 5: like the song they did, but they put out two

756
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 5: Guns or some whatever that that song, yeah, and then

757
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 5: it just stopped.

758
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: It didn't even matter if the song was good or not.

759
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 5: It's the fact that it was a moment and they

760
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 5: did it based off of the story. So if he

761
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 5: got little Wayne on a song or vice versa, this

762
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 5: wouldn't even talked about no more. It could only benefit

763
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 5: him if he does that. If I was rock Nation,

764
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 5: that's what I was stilling to do.

765
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And who was it who just asked me about that?

766
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: Oh Shamino.

767
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 6: Yes, I did see what August tweeting, And he has

768
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 6: been going off.

769
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: He has been watched Ghosts, b Rod.

770
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: He who is bro.

771
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 6: He was a producer on Billy Woods. Gollywad. He's a

772
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 6: dope ass producer, but he has This was his moment.

773
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 6: He couldn't wait to say this ship and he's probably

774
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 6: said it before, but.

775
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: He's been going in Bro.

776
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: He's on Wayne side.

777
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 6: No, No, not even close hold on that. Look again,

778
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 6: he tweeted it, so it's public. I ain't snitching, but uh,

779
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 6: because I had that had sent it to be I

780
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 6: was like, Bro, I didn't know, I didn't know.

781
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: Uh.

782
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 6: August felt like this, he said, Uh, Lol Wayne, this

783
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 6: is hilarious, bru He said, Lol. Wayne effing sucks and

784
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 6: his influence has bought and large been fing negative for

785
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 6: the culture, film and Young Money. All of them is

786
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 6: horror effing Bowl. That's just one tweet. He got a

787
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 6: string of tweets about this. Bro waiting on this his

788
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 6: whole life. Shout out the August nine. Man, he's a

789
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 6: dope producer. By the way, everybody's checking him out. He's

790
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 6: been hilarious.

791
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, Jay, that that would be an easy fix

792
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: if Jay would have passed him up.

793
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: On a Super Bowl.

794
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

795
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 3: That doing nothing with Rongnation, bro, Like, like way they

796
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 3: doing nothing affiliated?

797
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: He is bad. He's gonna forever like be mad about that.

798
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 3: Jay would have to call him up personally and apologize

799
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 3: or something like that, Like, look, Kendrick was just a

800
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 3: better pick.

801
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 2: He was a better pick. I'm sorry. That's the only

802
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: way that that would happen.

803
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: But right now, with everything that happened with that Super

804
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: Bowl stuff, I cannot see a collaboration happening with Lil

805
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 3: Wayne and Little Russell. So yeah, it would be an

806
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: easy fix when I can't see I can't see it

807
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: right there.

808
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they have to throw the bag. I think

809
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 5: Wayne would do it if they threw the bag at him,

810
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 5: because I think Wayne, with the Super Bowl thing, I

811
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 5: think the people made Wayne feel that way.

812
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: I don't even feel like care like that it's the people.

813
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: And Wayne that too.

814
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like he he really didn't.

815
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 5: I mean, after a while when you say it so

816
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 5: much and see the internet.

817
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 4: Oh you know what, I do deserve to be at

818
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 4: the super Bowl.

819
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: What you gonna?

820
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 5: I don't know, but I sure can do it because

821
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 5: I was very avid about him not doing the damn

822
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 5: super Bowl. But yeah, yeah, if the bag maybe it's

823
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 5: thrown at him. I think he probably would if the

824
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 5: money was right.

825
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you. But my thing about the Wayne

826
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: and your money.

827
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 3: Stuff, it's like, especially with the way Nikki been going

828
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: at Jay and all that, you're still affiliated with him,

829
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 3: like yeah, you got Drake. Like it's just so many

830
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 3: things that's attached now. Even if Wayne doesn't necessarily hate

831
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: Jay or he's cool with J, I think it's so

832
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 3: many it's almost like he's picking side if he affiliates

833
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 3: himself with J. You know what I'm saying, it's like,

834
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 3: what is your lord? Does your lords? You lie with Nicki, Drake?

835
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: Or are you gonna? You know what I'm saying.

836
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying. I just can't see it happening,

837
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: but you know, who knows? Man, But yeah, this is interesting, go.

838
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: Ahead, yeah, in eight two four five.

839
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 6: The reason why Wayne is being singled out is because

840
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 6: he's a freaking superstar and his reach is bigger than

841
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 6: all the other artists you're talking about with minimal sustance

842
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 6: in the music. So it's more about his popularity and

843
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 6: reach and the potential positive things that could have been

844
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 6: done with the massive amount of people that he had

845
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 6: listening versus what he actually put out that was more

846
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 6: along with the negative side of it, And that is

847
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 6: why he's being singled out from other artists because the

848
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 6: other artists, you know, they're cool, but they're only touching

849
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 6: reaching so many people.

850
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: You know, Lowayne bro he what was that run? O?

851
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: What was his run from Carter too? Carter three was huge?

852
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: Five to like yeah, twenty ten?

853
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah man, so yeah yeah, So think about all

854
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 6: the things that if he would have had a good

855
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 6: balance there or just a couple of raised the percentage

856
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 6: a little bit.

857
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: I think that's why he's been singled.

858
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: Out, right, And I mean we go back.

859
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 3: I know you said, oh five, but Wayne's been around

860
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: since the ninety nine two thousand, so it's just like

861
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: you know.

862
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 2: He he's been on a trajectory and then you know, like, yeah,

863
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: Wayne's that dude. Man, he was he was that dude.

864
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 2: He was that dude. Yeah.

865
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: I don't think much can like ruin his legacy because

866
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 3: it's there, man, It's there. That's why people still come

867
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: towards defense. So but yeah, man, if y'all y'all had

868
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: anything else to say about the situation that we get

869
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: into these super chats.

870
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: Nah, but Russell did make another tweet. I think he done.

871
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 1: He won't let it go God, but you and.

872
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: His phone, bro, somebody needs to grab his phone, man.

873
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 5: I think in today's day and age, controversy creates cash.

874
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 5: So if you have this traction going right now, whether

875
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 5: positive or negative, you know, if you do feed into it,

876
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 5: you got to be feeding into it and go all

877
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 5: the way and lock in and be laser focused on

878
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 5: what you're trying to accomplish with it. Because if he's

879
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 5: doing this just out of puer emotion, he's failing. But

880
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 5: if he's doing this with the intention of getting something

881
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 5: out of it, then he's winning. Charleston White does this

882
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 5: type of stuff all the time, Like if it's something negative,

883
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 5: he attaches himself to it.

884
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 4: You know, ray J does it all the time.

885
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 5: If it's content out there, you're gonna stick to it

886
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 5: because it's getting you talked about.

887
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 4: Because I told you, he's the main reason it's still going.

888
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 4: If he wouldn't have said nothing afterwards, we wouldn't even

889
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 4: probably be talking about it now.

890
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: Is he talking about the ship?

891
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 6: That is a very good point because even when we

892
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 6: were kind of yeah, I mean, that's why we're talking

893
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 6: about it because I'm like, bro, this thing is still going.

894
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 6: People still talking about it on Twitter. He's still tweeting

895
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 6: about it. So it's it's really smart by him. And

896
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 6: uh so I think that that's that's dope. And yeah,

897
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 6: ra J is a master at that. But you know again,

898
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 6: like yeah, so it's crazy, Like it's crazy because Fifo

899
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 6: started talking about.

900
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: Larry June and now Larry June is everywhere.

901
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 6: I Fifo started talking about Larussell and now I can't

902
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 6: get away from l Russell. But uh nah, he's not.

903
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 6: But yeah, he's cool. We should get him on the listener.

904
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: I no, no, we should we should get don't want

905
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: to listening for sure. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. Shout

906
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: out to the language of y G. He said that

907
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: great shirt. It's nice as fun.

908
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: It's just a regular gray shirt, but it is a

909
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: quality shirt. I shout out to him for realizing that, Like, yeah, man,

910
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: this is as I know. It's just regular grade but yeah,

911
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: shout out to him for notice and that.

912
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: But but yeah, man, appreciate y'all for sitting in your

913
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 3: super chess.

914
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: Man. Appreciate y'all for tuning in tonight.

915
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 3: Like I said, no, you know, we're balaning with uh

916
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: Culture United right now.

917
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: Boy fIF I think he's still over there doing it whatever.

918
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 3: So you know, by the time we get off this,

919
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: y'all in like head over there, uh and support that

920
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 3: in hip hop and we everywhere can we ever?

921
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, so much go on?

922
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: Man.

923
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 6: Shout out to Jay Red from coming through as well

924
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 6: tonight because I figure you were.

925
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: You are a little Wayne fan.

926
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I'm not a fan of current Wayne, but

927
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 5: I will call myself a little Wayne fan.

928
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, gotcha? Gotcha? Gotcha?

929
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, So, uh definitely need some more representation uh

930
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 6: and people, especially now if people had to hop over there, but.

931
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, show much go on. But Sonny, you're right, man,

932
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: he did post a song and he has substance to

933
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: Oh man, I don't leave.

934
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 2: I know it's haunting him right now though. Heep man

935
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 2: this type of stuff, man, yeah, man, Man, social media

936
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: is so God. Social media will mess you up.

937
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 4: It will mess you will, man, it will. All it

938
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 4: takes is like one thing. But the thing, the beautiful

939
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 4: thing about.

940
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 5: It is you can manipulate it or feed into it

941
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 5: like the Alcum rhythm. Now see back in the day.

942
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 5: You can really control the narrative. Now and I keep

943
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 5: bringing up Charleston White. You can play into it and

944
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 5: you can make it work into you know, your benefit,

945
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 5: depending on what it is. The reason the Baby got

946
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 5: canceled is because he pissed off a certain community that

947
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 5: had power. Right the Baby is still a successful rapper,

948
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 5: but that's because he's feeding a certain type of audience.

949
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 5: He has hit records, TikTok wise, but it's not getting

950
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 5: to me like everything previously before that. But you can

951
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 5: have your own utopia. You have your own village, your

952
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 5: own church. Like I said, you know what I'm saying.

953
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 5: So if anything negative does happen, you got a strong

954
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 5: follow like currency. You can't cancel no currency, you know

955
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. He got his own following, like you

956
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 5: can't do nothing. You can't cancel Tech nine, But you

957
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 5: can cancel somebody like Little Baby, you know what I'm saying.

958
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 5: You can cancel somebody like Kendrick Lamar Drake, whoever. You

959
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, J Cole. But somebody like the

960
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 5: Baby Now you can't because he's.

961
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: Serving a certain type of audience.

962
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 5: So with the thing is with social media, it could

963
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 5: take your stuff, but you got if you learn how

964
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 5: to kind of play into it and feed off of

965
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 5: the negativity.

966
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 4: You know, the Russell could make some shirts like I

967
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 4: hate Lil Wayne trolling with it.

968
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

969
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 5: I'm not saying he should do that, but you can

970
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 5: make a benefit in your favorite depending on what you're

971
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 5: trying to do or what you want.

972
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see, man, We'll see how he survived this.

973
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 2: This is crazy.

974
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 3: I didn't know it was gonna look like this. It's

975
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 3: obviously hurting, like haunting him right now.

976
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: If he's still tweeting about it, damn.

977
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 3: Jolly but special shout out though, man, I want to

978
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 3: shut out Isaiah man sonny Man. He in there engaged

979
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 3: with y'all. Shout out to Isaiah man I see him

980
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 3: and they're responding to everybody active.

981
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 2: Up in there.

982
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: You see him.

983
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 2: Shout out to Isaiah Man. But yeah, man, if can

984
00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: you have anything else, we move on.

985
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: I'll just listen to that substance song.

986
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: Oh that's funny, bro, that's fun. That's fun. You know what.

987
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 2: He is silly enough to just kind of let this

988
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: ball over there. We'll see how it goes. We'll see

989
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: how it goes.

990
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's a fun guy.

991
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

992
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 3: Shout out to LaRussa man, hope he survives this, man,

993
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 3: But yeah, man, without further ado, Man, we're gonna get

994
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 3: to these super chests again. Thank you guys for always

995
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 3: supporting this channel. With those super chests, man, Like I said,

996
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 3: definitely helps us keep going, help us do this every

997
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,720
Speaker 3: week and you know, keeps the dead and hip hop moving,

998
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 3: man movement moving. So again, thank you so much for

999
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 3: your contributions. If you want to do a little bit more, man,

1000
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 3: you can always head over to our Patreon page Patreon

1001
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 3: dot com for Slash Debt and hip Hop.

1002
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: You can definitely support us there as well. You get

1003
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: dope content.

1004
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 3: We got so many dope ideas that we got coming

1005
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: down the pipeline for you guys. We just finished recording

1006
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 3: one that I think is really dope, and I hope

1007
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 3: you guys love it because it was fun doing it,

1008
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 3: just recorded before we went live on that before you

1009
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 3: went over to Coaching United. So yeah, man, make sure

1010
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 3: you become Patroon supporter so you know, get access to

1011
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 3: that content. But like I said, what I further do

1012
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: about the head over to these super chats where Ken

1013
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 3: will go through those what you got, bro?

1014
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 6: The Laguatore Wayne has very little to no substance at all.

1015
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 6: Los Jonathan Hernandez, What are the who are the acon

1016
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 6: t pain of today?

1017
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 2: A t Pain of today?

1018
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 5: I would say, uh, And if you're talking about hook man,

1019
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 5: I guess that's what they're talking about. Somebody who is

1020
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 5: slept on is Jeremiah Mmmm? Like somebody like him? Like

1021
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 5: he's low key because I'm gonna actually talk about this

1022
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 5: on my next episode, Like he's low key, like the

1023
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 5: Nate dog t paying Akon of today because and I

1024
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 5: say low key because he didn't have as large as

1025
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 5: records as those individuals that I named, but he'd be

1026
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 5: popping up on stuff. But like right now, I don't

1027
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 5: know who I would compare other than like Jeremiah because

1028
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say rob wave, rob Wave don't hop on

1029
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 5: a lot of other people's songs.

1030
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: He no, not like that. Uh sway Lee.

1031
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 6: I think he had a run, right Is that one

1032
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 6: of the ones from uh Raze?

1033
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: Yeah? Race?

1034
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, he had a nice run. He comes to mind.

1035
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 6: But when is the episode dropping? Do you have a

1036
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 6: release date?

1037
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: It's coming up.

1038
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 5: I'm probably gonna film well, because we're gonna do that

1039
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 5: Who Gave.

1040
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 1: You a Podcast?

1041
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 5: We're gonna work on episode thirteen in a couple of weeks,

1042
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 5: So it's gonna be one of the topics on that one.

1043
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: Well you check that out.

1044
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 2: Bad he was doing and everything.

1045
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Yeah, y'all make sure you check it out.

1046
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's to be going in depth about Jeremiah mm

1047
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 6: hmm on Who Gave You a Podcast?

1048
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna.

1049
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 3: Say, uh the John Tolliver died. Did anybody bring him up?

1050
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 3: I think I think he's one of those like singing

1051
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 3: guys or whatever. He kind of add to songs.

1052
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Friday.

1053
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 6: And a little bit. But yeah, uh tso t z

1054
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 6: TEASO touchdown. It is a name that's kind of been

1055
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 6: doing some stuff too. But yeah, but okay, yeah, yeah,

1056
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 6: but that's what that.

1057
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 2: Would be, my my.

1058
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 3: Throwing the bucket to somebody like that. I can't think

1059
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: of anybody else. I'm trying to think of that.

1060
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 2: Other than that. You know some women. Oh Bret is

1061
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:04,959
Speaker 2: a good one.

1062
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I forgot about him. That got blazed to

1063
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 5: b No, what's his name?

1064
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 1: Black?

1065
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 4: Not blast blast blast yeah, black.

1066
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 6: Blast Yeah yah, y'all can have him. Uh uh roland

1067
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 6: I got criticized for the twenty twenty six lineup. YB

1068
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 6: and Don Tolliver are headlining. Organizers blame the egos of

1069
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 6: artists and their expensive demands. Others say the rap scene

1070
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 6: is just cook thoughts, M, who's why NBA?

1071
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: Is that young boy? They talking?

1072
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: My young boy?

1073
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1074
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 2: I think the young boy they called him.

1075
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 6: They call him all kind of damn things, but they

1076
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 6: can't make up their mind what they want.

1077
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: To call him, right, Which one is it? Y'all? Young

1078
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: boy never broke in and be a young boy? Young boy?

1079
00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: So many things I'm can afford it. Why be hm,

1080
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: you know? Uh? But rolling loud man? But is that

1081
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: still a thing? Oh yeah, yeah, it's still a thing.

1082
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 5: It's just uh, I think the people who are performed

1083
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 5: right now, it feels like it's like somewhat of like

1084
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 5: a general I don't know if it's a generational divide

1085
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 5: or like an algorithm thing, because like people like young Boy, right,

1086
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 5: young Boy don't really hit my algorithm like that. But

1087
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 5: I don't know whether it's because of the content that

1088
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 5: I follow and everything like that. But usually, like the

1089
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 5: Rolling Loud, the people who are at Rolling Loud, I

1090
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 5: don't really listen to on the regular like that, like

1091
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 5: some of the people who are for the past, like

1092
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 5: the past couple of years, the lineup hadn't been people

1093
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 5: who I really listen to on the regular like that.

1094
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

1095
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 3: I don't think I like the they blame organ the

1096
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 3: organizers blame the egos of artists and their expensive demands.

1097
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 3: I mean, get these artists what they what they deserve.

1098
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 3: You know, we used to deal with that all the

1099
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 3: you know, like back in the day with a THREEC

1100
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 3: and we had some insight to to like, you know, artists,

1101
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 3: and they were kind of saying the same thing at

1102
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 3: one point, like you know, artists demanding the certain thing.

1103
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 3: But I think they're deserving of it. I mean, is

1104
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 3: there time you know what I'm saying, like, like what.

1105
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 2: What's expensive like, because I think who is Kendrick? I

1106
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 2: heard something about.

1107
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 3: Kendrick was was demanding something and one I forgot what

1108
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 3: what show or or fustible that was?

1109
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, shit, who like it ain't like it

1110
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: used to be.

1111
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 3: I mean times are harder, Like they can't even sell

1112
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 3: our shows right now. So I mean, look, they're trying

1113
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 3: to get whatever money they.

1114
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 2: Can right now.

1115
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 1: Man.

1116
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know if I like that that

1117
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 3: egos or artists and expensive demands.

1118
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 6: Quote, I actually don't think I'm looking at it now

1119
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 6: and I don't think this.

1120
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: Is actually that bad.

1121
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 6: So if you want to talk about some of the

1122
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 6: performers that are there, I don't think it's that bad. Uh,

1123
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 6: you know, don Tolliver, Playboy, CARDI, NBA, Young Boy headlining.

1124
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: But they got Chief Keev. I'm gonna go through some

1125
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: of the names.

1126
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 6: I recognize, Chief Keev Love, Tyler, Laser Dim seven hundred,

1127
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 6: uh Belligang.

1128
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: Cushten is going up there? Who else? Baby Chief do it?

1129
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 6: We've been talking about him, Destroyed Lonely, who Shisty is

1130
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 6: gonna be there? To your Korean is gonna be there?

1131
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 6: This isn't that bad. These are names that some of

1132
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 6: the young young is listen to. Uh SANSI Red is

1133
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 6: gonna be there, boss Man Di Lo no Cap, Playboy Matts.

1134
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 6: That's the name that's been out there. I don't know

1135
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 6: if it's music any good, and there's a whole bunch

1136
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 6: of other people, so so I don't think the lineup

1137
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 6: is actually that bad. And I think for people that

1138
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 6: listen to those type of artists, I think it's all fits.

1139
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: Now. If you want to talk about whether it's all

1140
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: if if the scene is cooked.

1141
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 6: Those names that I just read, it's more to the

1142
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 6: scene being cooked than the line up being bad.

1143
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: That's the conversation we can have.

1144
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 6: But they all making music that you know a lot

1145
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 6: of them guys like like listen to.

1146
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think they're following the times, and

1147
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 3: I think they thought they probably had it right until

1148
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 3: they got criticized, you know what I'm saying. So I mean, yeah,

1149
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 3: I mean, if you if you want like the Kendricks

1150
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 3: in the in the j.

1151
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 2: Coles or whoever in the world, Yeah, you're gonna have

1152
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 2: to You're gonna have to drop that. You're gonna have

1153
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 2: to take some of these people off.

1154
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 6: Here, got his own festival, Jake Cole, I know what

1155
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 6: I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, so you're right, Jake Cole ain't

1156
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 6: going there. You got have to pay for j Cole

1157
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 6: because he's doing his own.

1158
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 3: Ship, right, So you yeah, you go to take.

1159
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 2: Off some of these artists if you want want bigger names.

1160
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 2: That's just what it is.

1161
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 3: So like, that's why I said, I don't think it's

1162
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 3: ego or expensive demands. It's like, no, y'all trying to

1163
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 3: load up this list, but you need to convince it

1164
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 3: if you're trying to open up that budget if you

1165
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 3: want want, uh some bigger names or some more credible

1166
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 3: names or whatever you want.

1167
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 6: To say, right, yeah, is rap trends or eras you

1168
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 6: wish you could relive.

1169
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: Rap trends or errors you wish you could relive eras?

1170
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 5: To me, I would say the era was, I say

1171
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 5: the early two thousands. I mean the typical answer would

1172
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 5: be the nineties, of course, but I think the early

1173
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 5: two thousands just had the best of everybody, and you

1174
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 5: had a list, B list and C list rappers that

1175
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 5: were all competing. Like for every fifty you had a Jadakiss.

1176
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 5: And I'm not trying to say fifties better than Jada kids.

1177
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 5: I'm talking about star level. You know what I'm saying.

1178
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 5: It was a point when I could go to the

1179
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 5: like somebody was dropping like every month. I mean they

1180
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 5: dropped now, but you had more of like the heavy

1181
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 5: hitter at the time, and even like the the C

1182
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 5: list hitters.

1183
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: We're doing it.

1184
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 5: I think that the two thousands get slept on too,

1185
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 5: because we always talk about the nineties, but I think

1186
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 5: like the early and I'll say the two thousand, I'm

1187
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 5: talking about like two thousand to like two thousand, uh

1188
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 5: like six.

1189
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: Like that little era right there, that stretch.

1190
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 6: You know this is interesting, Go ahead, roding out ever

1191
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 6: comment on that.

1192
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: Early two thousands.

1193
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm with you. I don't know

1194
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 3: if I'm with you on the early two thousand.

1195
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 2: That was a horrible time for me.

1196
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 3: Like Jay that you're talking about bow Wow, you're talking

1197
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 3: about all of those like like it like you did

1198
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 3: have some some big names like kind of sifting there

1199
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 3: a little bit, but they wasn't. It was the bow Wows,

1200
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 3: the Sammis, the the little Romeos.

1201
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: Oh. I hated that era.

1202
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 3: Then you had and then you had like a soldier

1203
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 3: boys like it was just certain certain ones and I'm

1204
01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 3: just like, oh, I can't wait till this era is over.

1205
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 3: And that era came right in in O seven and

1206
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 3: that is the blog era.

1207
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: The blog era was so refreshing and so good.

1208
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 3: So from that seven to like fourteen, that's when we

1209
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 3: got the Kendricks, That's when we got the early Drakes,

1210
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 3: That's when we got the Cuddies, That's when we got

1211
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 3: the Joe Joey badasses. Like the blog era was so good,

1212
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 3: can't remember, Like those festivals were so good, big crit

1213
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 3: Like it was so many people that came out of

1214
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 3: that blog era, bro, blog era was a time man,

1215
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 3: Like I loved the blog Loope even kind of came

1216
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 3: out of that blog era. Man, it was just so

1217
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 3: many Mickey facts, Like I could just name so many

1218
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:51,439
Speaker 3: that Charles Hamilton, like, so many people came up.

1219
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 1: You like jay Z versus Nas the Earth I did.

1220
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying you you had that, but you

1221
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 3: also had that other just this literate in.

1222
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 2: The early two thousands. It was so much of that

1223
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 2: in the two thousands. I hated it. What hated it?

1224
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 2: I hated it. I hated it.

1225
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 6: So to answer the question, I answered the question first, Uh,

1226
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 6: we just part of the podcast we did, and you

1227
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 6: guys can catch the full episode. It'll be on the

1228
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 6: debting of our Patreon No limit for me, bro, oh man,

1229
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 6: no limit, Bro.

1230
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 1: Take me back.

1231
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 6: That was a great, great time for me. Just give

1232
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 6: it into just ignorance and just the street and all

1233
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 6: the other shuff just.

1234
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: Just carefree talk about lack of substance.

1235
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 6: Hey, they didn't have any, even though you know, uh well,

1236
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 6: you know, I don't know. Master P was throwing. I

1237
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 6: missed my homies every now and then. But and I

1238
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 6: actually want to do a show on this because I

1239
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 6: think this is interesting. Jay, you are echo echoing uh

1240
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 6: similar sentiment to Nick. Nick and I would get into

1241
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 6: debates about the two thousands, and he feels very much

1242
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 6: the same as you do, and I'm more along the

1243
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 6: lines and he makes a good argument. He makes an argument,

1244
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 6: but I'm more on the lines of Rod, and I

1245
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 6: think it might be time to have that conversation about

1246
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 6: early two thousands. I think, so, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna

1247
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 6: see if I can set that up and get that

1248
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 6: because yeah, this would be a fun debate because two

1249
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 6: thousands awful, and.

1250
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 4: I'm talking about and the rock like it was. Man,

1251
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 4: it was so much stuff going on in the early

1252
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 4: two thousands.

1253
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 5: It was a lot of classic moments like in rapping,

1254
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,439
Speaker 5: just like the Romeo bow Wows. I wasn't even thinking

1255
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 5: about that, Like you had to remind me of that.

1256
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 5: I'm talking about Hippi like wow, I would listen.

1257
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: No damn.

1258
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 5: But I mean his ship would come on one of

1259
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 5: those things at park. But I'm talking about like mixtapes like.

1260
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 4: The DJO Desert Storm Ship, the g when fifty first

1261
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 4: came out gu and it like like dipset and like

1262
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 4: all that.

1263
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: I mean.

1264
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: The block air was too low.

1265
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah, that was the last goal in the era. Yeah,

1266
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 6: all right, Black Ross. Who had the biggest fall off

1267
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 6: of the twenty twenties for example, Lizzo, Little Baby, dub Baby,

1268
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 6: Jack Carlow or somebody else. First of all, Jack Carlow

1269
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 6: never should have been anywhere to fall off.

1270
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: That's number one.

1271
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 6: I don't even know why he's even in this tweet

1272
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,919
Speaker 6: in the super chat. Absolutely if this was like pick

1273
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 6: something that shouldn't that doesn't how it go. Which one

1274
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 6: of these things is not like the other? It's Jack Carlow,

1275
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 6: Jack ARLs shouldn't have been in there.

1276
01:04:56,120 --> 01:05:00,919
Speaker 4: We can take to take Lizo. I heard the last

1277
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 4: album was good, though I didn't because nobody talking about

1278
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 4: nobody's talking like he's known for being fat.

1279
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: Let's just be honest.

1280
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 5: She's known for that's being her stick and I'm not

1281
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 5: trying to diss her. That's Liz o be eating is

1282
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 5: her literal. I don't know if it's still that, but

1283
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 5: that was her Instagram name. But known for no music

1284
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 5: like not like that to be in this conversation who

1285
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 5: fell off?

1286
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 4: I don't think she was ever own.

1287
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 5: It's just that being fat and obese is what they

1288
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 5: promoted and that's the reason we talked about her.

1289
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 7: But anyway, Uh, look Dirk.

1290
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 6: I think because he was about to go to jail bro,

1291
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 6: we were going to talk about it, Rober, we took

1292
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 6: it off the rundown.

1293
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: He's about to go to jail, brother, so he in trouble.

1294
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 6: They're about to let what two songs be admitted to

1295
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 6: court and some of the stuff on social media or whatever.

1296
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: I can't remember the bruh. Yeah him, I would say

1297
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: the baby.

1298
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 5: That was a hard and because of what happened, like

1299
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 5: little Baby, his music fell off. The Baby's music was

1300
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 5: getting redundant, but he was still at this level. But

1301
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 5: that whole giving you know, talking about heading the parking lot,

1302
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 5: the thing with the LGBT, all that stuff like that,

1303
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 5: they took that boys just they feel like they just

1304
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 5: took everything away, and he hadn't been able to bounce

1305
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 5: back since, like for real, for it's like he's like blacklisted,

1306
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 5: like he's he's omnipresent, damn near. It's like, yeah, he

1307
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 5: has like he's here. But I mean, I don't you know,

1308
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 5: I would say the Baby, out of everybody that's that

1309
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 5: was a big fall off.

1310
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 2: I actually go little Baby.

1311
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 3: And the only reason I go little Baby is because

1312
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 3: I feel like he had a had a higher mark

1313
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,439
Speaker 3: than the Baby. So I felt like the fall off

1314
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 3: is harder because he was I mean, you have people

1315
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 3: saying that he was like like like talking about his

1316
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 3: lyrics and stuff like I mean, I remember, I don't

1317
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 3: know who it was was just saying like, oh, yeah,

1318
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 3: he's like the hottest rap rapper right now.

1319
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 2: He you know.

1320
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 3: Who said I can't remember who said it, but yeah,

1321
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 3: he he was definitely the more popular baby, I think,

1322
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 3: So I think Little Baby was the more popular baby.

1323
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 2: So That's why I said his probably his fall off

1324
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 2: was probably the hardest.

1325
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 5: M because the baby was getting into all kinds of

1326
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 5: stuff with the Danny lay thing and the fighting and

1327
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 5: all that other stuff.

1328
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: I think the baby they may have been evenly matched. Though.

1329
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying, like, just on on a music

1330
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 3: to music to it seemed like little baby had was

1331
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 3: just more.

1332
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 2: Popular on the music too. So the fact that this

1333
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 2: music is.

1334
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 3: Not buzzing like that anymore, that's why I said I

1335
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 3: think his heart off is probably fought harder than than

1336
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 3: the baby.

1337
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah.

1338
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 6: The linguasher La Russell wasn't really wrong about wrong, but

1339
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 6: the X fans saying Way never made enough songs with

1340
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 6: substance is disrespectfully wrong. Okay, Portagals, Hey, all things for

1341
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 6: the content. Who and hip Hop past and Presidence could

1342
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 6: pick up be yoldner, Kendrick.

1343
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: The Thoris Hammer, Oh oh that's funny. Yeah, definitely Kendrick.

1344
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 6: I think Chuck Yepns is a good answer. Jacob, Nah,

1345
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 6: you don't think.

1346
01:08:58,960 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 2: I mean.

1347
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: Jake Cole is one of the dopest, right, but.

1348
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 5: In hindsight, I don't think I would put him as

1349
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 5: a goat like one of the like he's one of

1350
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 5: the best to ever do it, but I ain't gonna

1351
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 5: say one of the greatest of all time in my opinion.

1352
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 2: Two packet is a good answer. I like that one.

1353
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pop for sure part could have took that bitch

1354
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 3: up one hand, Little.

1355
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 2: B That is funny. Oh my god, little Bee. That's

1356
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 2: that's that's pretty damn funny.

1357
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 6: That is not not I do like the NAS answer,

1358
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 6: But I think that's a really good one.

1359
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

1360
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 6: I think that's a really good answer. Who else, uh,

1361
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 6: maybe Billy was He's pure. He seems like he's a

1362
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 6: pure guy.

1363
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: Lope.

1364
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 6: Uh, somebody else that makes good wholesome seem like they're

1365
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 6: a really good guy.

1366
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: You're thinking about Captain America's of the world. But yeah, okay,

1367
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: well yeah, but I really like NAS. I think NAS

1368
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: is a good answer though. Yeah.

1369
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 6: Uh and Jonathan or Nande y'all looking forward to the

1370
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 6: Bruno Mars Bruno Mars new album No No, Someone Isn't No.

1371
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 5: I'm the only one just to hear Silk Sonic Part

1372
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 5: two No thank You. I'm gonna listen to it just

1373
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 5: because I'm hoping it's gonna be different from what I'm

1374
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 5: it's projected to be, but I don't have my hopes

1375
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 5: so for it, it's just gonna be songs that I play.

1376
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 1: If I DJ at a hotel just to get people going.

1377
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 1: That's about it.

1378
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 8: I cannot bump Bruno Mars bro I just cannot play

1379
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 8: Bruno Mars like. It's just the guy's very talented. He

1380
01:10:55,000 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 8: could sing, but his his his music just doesn't it

1381
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 8: don't it? Don't You don't reach me like that.

1382
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 2: Ken, I don't know it just it just don't.

1383
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 6: Man. I that that that that single did remind me

1384
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 6: very much like Silk Sonic.

1385
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 1: But a lot of the guys, the people that wrote it,

1386
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: they're part of.

1387
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 6: His writing team, so they were on Silk Signing too,

1388
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 6: but they've been writing with him before Silk Sonic.

1389
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, but it ruined me.

1390
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 6: I do like it, but I hope it is more

1391
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 6: like Silk sign It and less like Bruno Mars you know.

1392
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 6: So we'll see, But I'm curious to see what he

1393
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 6: got cooking up. What's the best feature for feature two

1394
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 6: songs example, Gibbs Danny Brown, higher Return of the g

1395
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 6: another scarface w c ain't the one so hard.

1396
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't quite follow this.

1397
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 3: What's the best feature for what's the best features?

1398
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 5: Are they saying like they gives collabor with Danny Brown

1399
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 5: and then Danny Brown collabor gives on a different song,

1400
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 5: or like Scarface c I ain't the one so hard

1401
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 5: where both of them on that song.

1402
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 1: So I think, so Scarface DUBC, let's see, like I

1403
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: give you a feature and then you give me a feature.

1404
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: I guess that's what they're talking about.

1405
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, they were, Yeah, I s q Scarface dub C,

1406
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 6: I ain't the one, all right, and the Gibbs feature

1407
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 6: in exchange for a feature almost like that j Cole Cameron.

1408
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 6: Shit that's going on right now?

1409
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 5: They said, Ja Cole do his trunk selling. CARLM Cam

1410
01:12:58,080 --> 01:12:59,600
Speaker 5: gonna be waiting on him like he was in a

1411
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 5: paid fool.

1412
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 3: What he said, you got you got in that bad

1413
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 3: I forgot I forgot the quote. But yeah, that's hilarious.

1414
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 3: Though I don't know how to answer this question, said,

1415
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 3: I ain't the one is on the fix.

1416
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is a feature swap. So on, So Sunday

1417
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 6: says feature swap, so one artist would appear on an album,

1418
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 6: then when that same artist dropped there's the other artists

1419
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 6: would do the same.

1420
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: Okay, so.

1421
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 6: It's starting to come together for me now in terms

1422
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 6: of content. So I remember this what happened where you

1423
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 6: can It's almost like you could tell they did a

1424
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:49,520
Speaker 6: feature exchange because they'll both appear on each other's albums

1425
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 6: in that same year when they had an album drop

1426
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 6: it back. So now trying to go through the hip

1427
01:13:55,360 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 6: hop rollerdets.

1428
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 2: On the spot, Yeah, who that was? I like the

1429
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 2: Rocket school Boy c But I feel like they did

1430
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 2: that before. I think they've both been featured on each

1431
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 2: other before.

1432
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, hm hmm.

1433
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now that's that's a I think that's a long like.

1434
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 6: A more conversation, hmm okay, uh yeah, let me think

1435
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 6: about that one a little bit more.

1436
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: I'll try to come back to it if something pops up.

1437
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 6: Donald Van, are there songs albums with substance that you

1438
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 6: used to listen to that now you're older, you hear

1439
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 6: them and think this is complete nonsense.

1440
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 2: Oh substance, but nonsense.

1441
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 1: Now oh I feels like something came to me.

1442
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think, oh that has substance when I

1443
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 5: listened to.

1444
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 6: It, Yeah, and now you were like, what what?

1445
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: What? Are you talking about so mm hmmm mmm, no,

1446
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 1: no one.

1447
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have to go back in the roll Dicks.

1448
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 2: Would have to be something from from back in the day.

1449
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 6: Definitely something from the nineties. I feel like most Death

1450
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 6: got something.

1451
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 2: Ye.

1452
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 3: Well, I like that he said my President is black

1453
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 3: like that. That g Z album The Recession, I thought

1454
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 3: it was more something than it. Absolutely, I actually was

1455
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 3: on that. But I would have to go.

1456
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 2: Back and listen to to see like, oh yeah he

1457
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: really wasn't saying but he just had a bunch of

1458
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 2: sound bites. I don't know.

1459
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might have to go back on that one, damn.

1460
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's that's a good question though.

1461
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That is that is a really good question.

1462
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 2: I like the relevance end though with the sustem stuff.

1463
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:05,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Jennader.

1464
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 6: And then separately, who are the artists who are the

1465
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 6: first artists that comes to mind when you hear those

1466
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 6: these words future goat, remix King, too little, too.

1467
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 2: Late, remix King would be Diddy mm hmm, future goat.

1468
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 3: There's will probably be Kent Kendrick for me, but I

1469
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 3: think Kendrick already goes status.

1470
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he is, so future goat probably would be.

1471
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm still on that jig train man.

1472
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: With what.

1473
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 2: Future goat?

1474
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,719
Speaker 1: Jim is actually my too little too late.

1475
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 4: Really, yeah, I would say him.

1476
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: Uh.

1477
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 4: I almost was about to say big krit for too little,

1478
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 4: too late.

1479
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 5: And the reason I'm saying that is because I feel

1480
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 5: I've always said this. I feel like crit phenomenal artists,

1481
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 5: but he came out at the wrong time.

1482
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 4: The setup wasn't what it should have been.

1483
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 5: I feel like if he would have came out in

1484
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 5: the early two thousands, mid two thousands, he would have

1485
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 5: been received a little better versus that twenty twelve blog era.

1486
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 4: He would have did more.

1487
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 5: Now he was received to you know, the fan base

1488
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 5: because I mean, he's dope artists, but I feel like

1489
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 5: he came out at the wrong time.

1490
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn.

1491
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: Lady, huh didd he is the remixed king.

1492
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 3: I would say, That's what I was saying people people

1493
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 3: trying to try to make jokes about that.

1494
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 2: But did he y'all? Oh yeah, I mean I know

1495
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 2: y'all like.

1496
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 3: Saying all the stuff that y'all saying now, but this man,

1497
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 3: there was nobody doing remixes like did he did remixes?

1498
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 3: Outside of everything that? Yeah, so Yeah, that's the first

1499
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 3: one I thought about when I saw that.

1500
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 2: That was easy. Damn. Man. So so if Jed is

1501
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 2: not the future, go who's the future?

1502
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 1: Got He's one right now?

1503
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 3: Broy is gonna have a ceiling. People saying Baby King,

1504
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 3: but I don't know. I don't know if they said

1505
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 3: Baby King.

1506
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 1: I got to hear the album first.

1507
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Baby King has has has ah. It's

1508
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 2: the trajectory to be good.

1509
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's gonna be like Goaded, but

1510
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be a good artist.

1511
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I don't know. I don't have anybody.

1512
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 3: Outside the outside of Ji. I still got hope for Jim.

1513
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 3: Somebody said Doc Maybe I don't know.

1514
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 1: Nah, I don't see it.

1515
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 2: Damn, y'all don't have nobody future.

1516
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: B It's it's it's it's tough right now.

1517
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 5: It's the climate is different, man, Like, I don't think

1518
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 5: the industry is kind of shaping up like how it was,

1519
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 5: because right now I feel like everybody kind of is

1520
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 5: in their own pocket. So there's gonna be a goat

1521
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 5: to whoever their audience is, but not everybody's audience versus

1522
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 5: in the blog.

1523
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 1: Are you still have the traditional model that was out,

1524
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 1: you know what I'm.

1525
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 5: Saying, Like Cole Kendrick, Drake, big Seanne all Willet followed

1526
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 5: that traditional model. Nowadays, it feels like everybody else just

1527
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 5: has kind of like their own pocket. So when I

1528
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 5: think of Goat, I'm thinking that covers all grounds. These

1529
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 5: newer artists that are out don't cover everybody's ground.

1530
01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 2: M hm interesting.

1531
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 3: Uh is it too little too late for Travis Scott?

1532
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: Nah? I mean I think he's situated where he is.

1533
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think he's done. The Extra World thing

1534
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 6: messed him up.

1535
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 1: It did.

1536
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 2: That's crazy how that messed them on.

1537
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 6: Ye, it really did. It set him back. But yeah,

1538
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 6: I think he's established now. But but yeah, it's somebody

1539
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 6: else we've been waiting on. But uh too. But yeah,

1540
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 6: but I gotta hear what his new album sounds like.

1541
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 6: But yeah, I don't think the reason I.

1542
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 3: Still say Jed and I know people tell me to

1543
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 3: let it go is because this man got nominated for

1544
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 3: a Grammy, Like, I think that will put the fire

1545
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:59,679
Speaker 3: under him to keep going, get better, do something different,

1546
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 3: more creative, like I think he keep going.

1547
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

1548
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if that album hit in the

1549
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 6: way that well, anyway, I love this one.

1550
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1551
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 6: Do y'all think hip hop is doing a disservice by

1552
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 6: not speaking up on certain political topics ice and music?

1553
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 6: I remember a point in time and the Bush era

1554
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 6: rappers were more vocal now.

1555
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 1: As tweets and reshare she stolo No.

1556
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 3: I think that's a testament to to like what we

1557
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 3: just got finished talking about, how there's no upcoming goats

1558
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 3: like they're just not they're not rapping about that type

1559
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:41,600
Speaker 3: of stuff anymore.

1560
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 5: But to be honest, I guess I gotta be a

1561
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 5: guy okay, Ice? Right, Like, when we think about hip hop,

1562
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:57,480
Speaker 5: it's created by Black Americans, right foundation of Black Americans?

1563
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 5: Are there other race groups that make hip hop music?

1564
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 1: Yes?

1565
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 5: This ice thing, as terrible as it is, it's not

1566
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 5: impacting the Black Americans, which is predominantly like what hip

1567
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 5: hop is. So we don't like hip hop doesn't feel

1568
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 5: enticed to actually be vocal about it. Because when you

1569
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 5: think about fight the power, we talk about oppression on us.

1570
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 5: Right with this, even though it's political, I'm not saying

1571
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 5: rappers shouldn't talk about it, but they always want to

1572
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 5: use Black Americans as the flagship for stuff when we

1573
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 5: don't get the same it's not the energy's not reciprocated.

1574
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 5: So with this ice thing, yeah, people could talk about it,

1575
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,680
Speaker 5: but I don't. I didn't think that hip hop was

1576
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,839
Speaker 5: just gonna be so vocal about ice versus George Floyd.

1577
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 5: George Floyd, police brutality and stuff like that seems to

1578
01:22:55,360 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 5: be more affecting the black community versus the ice situation.

1579
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: That's really what it's about.

1580
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 2: Now.

1581
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 4: Whether people feel like it's right or wrong, that's that.

1582
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 5: But you hip hop has been vocal about what has

1583
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 5: affected hip hop, not just one or two rappers. One

1584
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 5: of two rappers may talk about this and then the third.

1585
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 5: But you know what police brutality you had for the police,

1586
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 5: you know when different things went on with with Bush.

1587
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 5: I mean, uh, you you had certain people talking about things.

1588
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 5: But with the ice thing, I just don't see like

1589
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 5: rappers as a whole just speaking up about it because

1590
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 5: it's not directly impacting their communities.

1591
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 1: Mm.

1592
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you said you had to be that guy. Damn.

1593
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 4: I mean it's a sensitive topic.

1594
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 5: But I mean if you're asking like people, I've saw

1595
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 5: some people criticize it before, what do you want hip

1596
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 5: hop to do if it's we go based off of

1597
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 5: hip hop was created off of white supremacy, So like,

1598
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 5: what was the.

1599
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 3: Thing like, that's what's currently affecting And you know there

1600
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 3: are casualties right now that that aren't necessarily us, But

1601
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 3: what happens.

1602
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 2: If that skills over to us?

1603
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 3: And also the fact that we can kind of relate

1604
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 3: to it right that we you know, we face depression,

1605
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 3: we face like brutality.

1606
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 2: And things like that, and you know, we wanted people

1607
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 2: to come to our defense when we were going through it.

1608
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 3: So I think it's to say like, oh, well, it

1609
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 3: is not affecting us, so.

1610
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 2: Why rap about it? I don't know, I just think

1611
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 2: that's a that's being a little insensitive.

1612
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 3: And I feel like, you know, as a hip hop

1613
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 3: culture having influenced like that, Yeah, man, I think I

1614
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 3: think you should touch on like like those type of

1615
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 3: worldly issues. You know, not you should, but we should

1616
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 3: have somebody in the representing it right like you know,

1617
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 3: I mean because you have people talking about Gaza and

1618
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 3: and all kinds of things, So so I mean, why

1619
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 3: not talk about things that happening right here on on

1620
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 3: home land?

1621
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, yeah, dang, I don't know.

1622
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: Joe to do. I mean, you have people who made it.

1623
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 4: What because I'm saying it's like, well here, I hear

1624
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 4: what I'm hearing?

1625
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: What what? What?

1626
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 4: What's being said? But it feels like, oh, well, you

1627
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 4: know we should because we you know, we speak out

1628
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 4: about this and that that that third. But if you

1629
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 4: go back historically and look at what hip hop has

1630
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 4: been about and what black oppression has been about, we've

1631
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 4: been fighting it on our own. I mean, people have

1632
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 4: came and helped it, helped us, but we've had to

1633
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 4: always fight our battles and then we fought other people's battles.

1634
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,759
Speaker 4: And then they've came in benefiting off of the battles

1635
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 4: that we did, and then they'll say, okay, well, uh,

1636
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 4: I'm representing my country.

1637
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, I'm representing where I'm from.

1638
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 5: And we were like, well damn, we put in all

1639
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 5: this work. So I think that's just what it is.

1640
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:58,799
Speaker 4: It sounds harsh, but if it was really that feeling,

1641
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:00,080
Speaker 4: people will be doing.

1642
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 5: It and putting it in their music and stuff like that.

1643
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 5: That's why I'm saying it's not really since it's not

1644
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 5: impact and this is just a conjecture of mine. You

1645
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I'm not saying what I'm saying

1646
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 5: is law, but just studying hip hop and what hip

1647
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 5: hop has been vocal about, I just don't think now.

1648
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 5: And to answer your question, right, you said, what if

1649
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 5: it comes and affect us, then that'll be the time

1650
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 5: to speak out about it. That's when I feel like

1651
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 5: rappers that talk about it when it does effect, When

1652
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 5: it does affect, that's when they'll talk about it.

1653
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 4: Right, George Floyd happened. It didn't even take that long.

1654
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 5: They knew who was gonna turn up with that, but

1655
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 5: that was during COVID and then the whole world went

1656
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 5: on fire for that. But I think that's the reason.

1657
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 5: But I don't think necessarily is doing a disservice.

1658
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 1: That's just my.

1659
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 2: Opinion about it.

1660
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 6: But you know, I don't know if they're doing a

1661
01:26:54,479 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 6: I think that's putting a lot on hip hop to

1662
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 6: constantly speak about the ill wills of the world and

1663
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 6: letting other genres off the hook.

1664
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:13,720
Speaker 1: To what Jay was saying, is part of.

1665
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 6: The reason why they were they were writing the songs

1666
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 6: they were back in the day is because it was

1667
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 6: directly impacting.

1668
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 1: Their community.

1669
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 6: The absence of those songs outside of rappers here and

1670
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 6: there is because they don't feel like it is directly

1671
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 6: impacting their community. Could they be empathetic to your point, Rod,

1672
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 6: to the plight of what's going on by just watching

1673
01:27:51,640 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 6: it and paying attention to the news and remembering how

1674
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:05,639
Speaker 6: these things kind of can cross boundaries where it could

1675
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:10,640
Speaker 6: impact Black Americas. They could be empathetic to that and

1676
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 6: write songs about that or speak out against it.

1677
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 1: But with.

1678
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 6: That's asking them to do something that they haven't historically done.

1679
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 6: So is that a disservice? Uh? It depends on perspective,

1680
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 6: you know. But I think that the Latin the Hispanic

1681
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 6: community has always been a part of hip hop. You know,

1682
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 6: they were at clubs just going back in the day,

1683
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 6: you know, dancing the B Boy crewise and stuff like that.

1684
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 1: Some of them are rappers, DJs, big pun you know.

1685
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 1: I think uh Cypress Hill beating up.

1686
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 6: So they they they have participated and contributed to hip

1687
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 6: hop and this construction and along the way, even though

1688
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 6: the majority of it has been mostly Black Americans, they

1689
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 6: have they have actively contributed as well. So Ice was

1690
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 6: just an example that was used. I think there are

1691
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 6: other things that they could talk about that are impacting people.

1692
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that you.

1693
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 6: Know, there was a big conversation about the EI that

1694
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 6: people felt one way or the other. You know that

1695
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 6: they could have spoken out about it, but given what

1696
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 6: happened to Parrell, maybe they don't want to say shit,

1697
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 6: you know, and you see you know, so maybe they

1698
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 6: want to stay out of that one that was one

1699
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 6: that was big, uh you know.

1700
01:29:56,120 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 3: The Yeah, So I think that I don't think they're

1701
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 3: necessarily doing the service, but and I don't think there's

1702
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 3: an obligation to do that as well. But the times

1703
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:11,680
Speaker 3: have changed.

1704
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 6: A lot, and I think the lack of commentary on

1705
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:19,679
Speaker 6: those is it's because there's a lack of understanding by

1706
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 6: some of the artists and that's why they're just choosing

1707
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 6: not to do it.

1708
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 1: They probably don't want to get beat up like the

1709
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 1: Russell did, so you know.

1710
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 6: But you know, but I think the ones that that

1711
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 6: feel a certain way, like Loope Loope could be one that.

1712
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:39,759
Speaker 1: Would say something.

1713
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 6: You know, he's very political, so he could definitely speak

1714
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 6: out and say something. He can speak out on a

1715
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 6: multitude of issues because he's educated about it, you.

1716
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.

1717
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 6: So, uh, there there's that you know, he's just not

1718
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 6: going to be saying something just because and then we

1719
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 6: so you know, that's what I thing. But but yeah,

1720
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 6: that bush Arrow was crazy, bro Like, we lived through

1721
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 6: that ship. That ship was insane, but that was directly impacting.

1722
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 6: So you know, I think that just going back to

1723
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 6: the ice, because it's the one thing that's happening right now.

1724
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 1: They probably don't know a lot of.

1725
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:22,680
Speaker 6: People that's impacted by facts, you know, And and I

1726
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 6: think that's that's what it is.

1727
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 1: It really is probably that simple in spite of all

1728
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 1: the news. So it's fucked up, right, but it kind

1729
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 1: of is what it is. So maybe they should do

1730
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:38,920
Speaker 1: more and say something.

1731
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 6: But shout out to those that have woken up. At

1732
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 6: least there are some people adding commentary. But you know,

1733
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1734
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 1: I'll be curious what a sauce walker have to say

1735
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:53,639
Speaker 1: about ice live at non.

1736
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 6: Ophelius LaRussa made a random comment, got caught up in

1737
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 6: this weird ass anti rottennation your campaign.

1738
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 1: Nobody has like them.

1739
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 6: But y'all are throwing trying to throw anyone that work

1740
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 6: under under ship, work with rock under the bus for

1741
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 6: small ship. All right, all right, and uh Jonathan and

1742
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 6: that is which rapper is a no go for the

1743
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 6: ops in your car?

1744
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 1: Who damn somebody get in your car and they put

1745
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 1: this ship on you.

1746
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:32,759
Speaker 6: Like, man, get that ship out of here, Jack harlow

1747
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 6: Man ride, no playing my ride? Correct answer, Jesus Christ,

1748
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 6: no play in my ride.

1749
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 4: I say the right now currently, I say the newest

1750
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 4: Drake music.

1751
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 1: Get that ship out of here.

1752
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 5: He gonna be mad at that, but ship this is

1753
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 5: the most recent stuff he's been dropping.

1754
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 1: Get that ship out of here.

1755
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 6: Mumhmm, yeah, uh yeah, No, I like I like the

1756
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 6: Jack Carlo answer dam man because he's such a good guy.

1757
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna even say his name. But y'all know

1758
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 6: who I'm talking about. Starts with the l uh. That

1759
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 6: could be Larry June too. I ain't trying to listen

1760
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 6: to Larry June unless it's on that Alchemist joint. That

1761
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 6: ship was good.

1762
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 1: That was good.

1763
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:45,679
Speaker 6: She's dolo Uh, y'all shouldick out. METSI Dreux he from Atlanta.

1764
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 2: I know.

1765
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 6: Fo what the hell, y'all? I know, I don't know

1766
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 6: what that is. Y'all would like him, especially King. He

1767
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 6: makes grown man trap music. Listen to No Date first

1768
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 6: met Drew.

1769
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll check him out. I'll check yep, stay safe.

1770
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 1: That's Josh Rose.

1771
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 6: It hurts me to say, but Wayne is just washing

1772
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 6: so out of touch and his anger at cartsits not

1773
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 6: being Grammy nominated shows that too.

1774
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 1: What does ATP stand for? I keep forgetting at this point, at.

1775
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:32,639
Speaker 4: This point, yeah, uh huh, okay, all right, yeah, I mean.

1776
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think Wayne.

1777
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 5: After the especially after the Super Bowl thing, I think

1778
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:43,599
Speaker 5: he just the fans make him feel left out because

1779
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 5: I think I know for a fact Wayne is always

1780
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 5: in his own world from people that work with him,

1781
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 5: work around him, and stuff like that. But but yeah,

1782
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:54,759
Speaker 5: he is. He's I'll say this, Wayne can still spit

1783
01:34:55,360 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 5: the the as far as like how creative he years

1784
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 5: to put certain words together.

1785
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 1: He still got that.

1786
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:05,839
Speaker 5: So I'm not going to say he's washed on that aspect,

1787
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 5: but washing the sense of the Wayne that we knew,

1788
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 5: you know, years ago, Yeah, he is there. But you

1789
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 5: know that's why when people were tripping about Carter six,

1790
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 5: I'm like, have y'all not been listening to Wayne for

1791
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:24,680
Speaker 5: the past couple of years? Like, like I really know

1792
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 5: it was because of the Super Bowl. Everybody was tuned

1793
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 5: in a Carter six. I'm like, did y'all not hear

1794
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 5: Carter five? It wasn't a bad album, but I mean,

1795
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 5: like the funerals, like did y'all not listen to that?

1796
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 5: And that bullshit mixtape people put out.

1797
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 1: Like free what was that ship called?

1798
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 5: It was some mix that he put out, like the

1799
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 5: last mix that he put out. That shit was god

1800
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 5: off Wheezy. Yeah, free Wheezy. Yeah, Yeah, that's what it was. Like,

1801
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:57,600
Speaker 5: that's probably like the worst Wayne music, terrible.

1802
01:35:57,920 --> 01:35:59,719
Speaker 1: And they're saying it's Mexico Dreux.

1803
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that.

1804
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 1: That's a brave ass name. I'll check it out.

1805
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 6: Young Dashie one gotta go, Chips Edition, Dorito's Lace or Talkies,

1806
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 6: Get Talkies out of here.

1807
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 1: That's that's the stuff. The young kids stuff, just funny.

1808
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 2: You got that one? Gg you got that one? No,

1809
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 2: I'm with y'all, Talkies. I na I never saw the appeal.

1810
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1811
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 6: They love them though. I do not get it.

1812
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 2: Kids.

1813
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 3: They came in all them crazy ass flavors and stuff,

1814
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 3: and I'll be wanting to try the flavors.

1815
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 1: It's just the way the chip is made. I just

1816
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 1: can't do it. And do it.

1817
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:48,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, it'snowbody simp this low key funny because he criticized

1818
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 6: Rory about it, don't you be he there went viral,

1819
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 6: but he didn't look at the whole video either, very

1820
01:36:52,560 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 6: very very ironic. Interesting Calma mm hmm, damn, Teddy Perkins,

1821
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:04,760
Speaker 6: which blog era rapper do you wish never fell off?

1822
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 2: Charles Hamilton?

1823
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 1: Mm hm mister, yeah, that's.

1824
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think who else that actually fell off.

1825
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 3: I wish no budding career had a better trajectory.

1826
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 1: I really, yeah, yeah.

1827
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 2: Well I meant know if he is he considered He's

1828
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 2: not considered blog is he not?

1829
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 1: Really? He just had that moves music thing that was

1830
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:43,599
Speaker 1: going on.

1831
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did have that moves music, which is really good.

1832
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:50,879
Speaker 3: But I did like that whole desert storm like DJ Clue,

1833
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 3: uh like day, But I don't think that's blog era.

1834
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 2: I would say, like maybe Joey Badass.

1835
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 3: Joey Badass, I didn't, I hate I bet I wish

1836
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 3: he had a better trajectory.

1837
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of.

1838
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 6: Uh, there was a group here local Rod and they

1839
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:17,800
Speaker 6: were called to nine. I don't know if you remember

1840
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 6: with them yep, yeah, man, I thought I thought they

1841
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:26,759
Speaker 6: were gonna make it, and I enjoyed that. Curtis Williams,

1842
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 6: I think Curtis Williams yep, yeah, yeah, Curtis Williams key,

1843
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 6: uh yeah, I really messed with him.

1844
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:38,439
Speaker 1: Uh. Cool Kids were another that I messed with. I

1845
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 1: thought we're dope cools.

1846
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

1847
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Uh. I wanted more for crick for sure.

1848
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 2: Yeah we all did. Yeah, we rooted for you. Yeah,

1849
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 2: we were rooting for Man. Yeah.

1850
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 3: Flat Bushes Armies is a good one too. I see

1851
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 3: people talking about flat bridges.

1852
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:07,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, was great man.

1853
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:11,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, easy nine to five. This the one that confused

1854
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:14,560
Speaker 6: me last time. Who's your favorite Bay Area artist that

1855
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:17,919
Speaker 6: isnt Tupac E forty or too short? Mac dre Andre

1856
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 6: Nicotina and the jacka are like j Nos and Big

1857
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 6: of the Bay Bay era rappers. Too short, he said,

1858
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 6: not too short, j T not too short.

1859
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:36,440
Speaker 2: I didn't see.

1860
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't put two like he put the number.

1861
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 2: Got He got you, right, he did get me. He

1862
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 2: got me, He got me. You put spice one on there?

1863
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:50,639
Speaker 2: Did he put spice one on there?

1864
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:53,639
Speaker 3: You can put spice we say spice one. No, I'm

1865
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 3: just saying he didn't put it I'm just making sure

1866
01:39:55,439 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 3: he did. Okay, well, give me spice one. Absolutely, Spice

1867
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 3: one is my pick.

1868
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 2: For sure.

1869
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:07,760
Speaker 4: I was saying JT the bigger figure.

1870
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:09,880
Speaker 8: Mm hmm.

1871
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, of course, and pretty much from him because

1872
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 5: he gave the game to master P. I like his

1873
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 5: business acumen, so I'm gonna.

1874
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 1: Say j.

1875
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:24,720
Speaker 6: Uh, yeah, I like that one. I like that one

1876
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 6: a lot. I like Keith the sneak uh banks and

1877
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 6: banks for show. Uh that is my guy. Uh with with.

1878
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:45,599
Speaker 1: You know, with too.

1879
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:51,960
Speaker 6: Short be Legit has some joints that I like.

1880
01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 1: I think that was e Fort his cousin or something

1881
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 1: like that.

1882
01:40:54,920 --> 01:41:02,680
Speaker 6: Mhm, y'all remember e A Ski Oh yeah, he had

1883
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 6: a couple of joints with uh with uh master P,

1884
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 6: he had a dope ad joined on one of those soundtracks.

1885
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:16,679
Speaker 4: Mhmm about it soundtrack he had, Yeah, yeah.

1886
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 2: Hammer.

1887
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 1: Maji. That's a good one from Sacramento.

1888
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, but anyway, but yeah, those those are a

1889
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 6: couple of uh babe, maybe some non babes.

1890
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, we we we need to do some more. Baby.

1891
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 1: We don't show the bad enough love, bro.

1892
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 6: As he has ranked these eras blog bling shiny suit

1893
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 6: ring tone, Come on, bro.

1894
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:53,680
Speaker 1: Blog bling they're in the right order for me.

1895
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, there in the right order for me too. M.

1896
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 6: I don't know that Blin Shiny Suit could be interesting.

1897
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 6: The Rington his last without a doubt.

1898
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Shiny Suit, that's.

1899
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:13,639
Speaker 2: I think interchangeable honestly.

1900
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, because you got see Diddy when he had the Lots,

1901
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:24,920
Speaker 6: but that Lot's first album was pretty good. Yeah, they're interchangeable.

1902
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 6: I think Bling blinge. I'm thinking about Blaine.

1903
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:27,680
Speaker 1: Blin had a.

1904
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:36,719
Speaker 6: Nice run to catch money and ship m So yeah, yeah, yeah,

1905
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 6: Rington was awful.

1906
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 1: That's part of that two thousand round Wayne's had.

1907
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 6: Wayne had multiple songs with substance up until after the

1908
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 6: Carter three. It got a little shaky after that, but

1909
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 6: he had songs since the first album in ninety nine.

1910
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 1: Do your homework talking Little Russell mm hmm.

1911
01:42:57,160 --> 01:43:02,200
Speaker 4: Yeah he started, Yeah, he started treading off during Carter three,

1912
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:05,000
Speaker 4: but yeah after for sure.

1913
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:08,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's when it kind of started. Because I ain't

1914
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:11,479
Speaker 5: gonna lie, I was not a real big fan. Like,

1915
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 5: that's when I started kind of steering away from Wayne

1916
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 5: once Carter three came out, because the lyrics just started

1917
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,559
Speaker 5: to kind of feel like more random, even though he

1918
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 5: was killing it. I started feeling like it wasn't like

1919
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 5: rooted like the first two were.

1920
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 6: But you know, yeah, and Sonny said the rain tone

1921
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 6: over the shiny suit, Jesus, maybe I'm missing something anyway.

1922
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:41,640
Speaker 6: That was a shout out to Urban Legend for the

1923
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:45,519
Speaker 6: supersticker and we're done here.

1924
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 2: All right, cool man look as always.

1925
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 3: Man, Thank you guys for coming through for another Dead

1926
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:54,880
Speaker 3: of Hip Hop Live j red Man, thank you once

1927
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:57,719
Speaker 3: again for like showing up last minute.

1928
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 5: But you be ready, bro, y'all be catching on the

1929
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 5: right time because I just got back in from Mardi

1930
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:08,759
Speaker 5: Gras yesterday, so I was spending today just to rest

1931
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:09,560
Speaker 5: up and stuff.

1932
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, all good man.

1933
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:16,440
Speaker 5: I appreciate being here, and make sure that y'all subscribe

1934
01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:20,639
Speaker 5: to the YouTube dot com at Resview and then YouTube

1935
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 5: dot com slash at who gave you a podcast? Those

1936
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 5: are my two platforms. But I follow me on Instagram

1937
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 5: to at J A, Y R.

1938
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:30,879
Speaker 1: And D for sure. Thank y'all for having.

1939
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:32,120
Speaker 2: Having Yeah that's all.

1940
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 9: Yeah, man, appreciate you for coming through. Man for real,

1941
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 9: I said, rodding got kidna. I don't know what happens

1942
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 9: to my computer. I was like, I think it might

1943
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:44,759
Speaker 9: have something to do with my airpot or something.

1944
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 3: But anyway, but yeah, man, yeah, thank y'all for coming out,

1945
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 3: Thank y'all for the super chests.

1946
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 7: Man.

1947
01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 3: Like I said, we try to do these every every Wednesday,

1948
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 3: nine pm Eastern Standard time.

1949
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:02,720
Speaker 2: I think still on the coach, this is just end.

1950
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 2: It just ended. So yeah, if you want to see go.

1951
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 3: Back and check that playback of the culture the company

1952
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 3: Man's Coaching United.

1953
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 2: It was their thoughts on j Cole. They talked about Hi.

1954
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 3: They also talked about the Russo over there as well,

1955
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:18,680
Speaker 3: So make sure you go back and check that out.

1956
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 3: See your boy do his thing on that channel. So

1957
01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think what else I had to say. Yeah, man,

1958
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:28,720
Speaker 3: I don't think I think that's about it.

1959
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:29,479
Speaker 2: That's about it.

1960
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 1: Can you have anything else else?

1961
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:39,759
Speaker 6: No, I just wanted to make sure I missed that last.

1962
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:43,440
Speaker 1: I don't think I think I did.

1963
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1964
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1965
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:59,560
Speaker 2: Who was it from? Who was supposed to be from?

1966
01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:57,599
Speaker 1: Where?

1967
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:02,559
Speaker 2: Oh ship? I just realized, I'm not even like my

1968
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:03,320
Speaker 2: screen is black.

1969
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

1970
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 2: I see it on my end, but I didn't realize it.

1971
01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:08,280
Speaker 1: What that's funny as.

1972
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 2: That's funny.

1973
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:17,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't see Yeah, Okay, cool.

1974
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 2: Well, I'll let you close it out since they can't

1975
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 2: even see me. I ain't even realize that.

1976
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll catch you guys next week. We

1977
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 1: were out