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Speaker 1: on ninety three to five and one oh seven five

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Speaker 2: And then there was one has been full time s

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Speaker 2: Beach remaining for Indy Car in twenty twenty six who

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Speaker 2: goes Hollinger? As confirmed sting Ray Rob will remain competing

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Speaker 2: in their lineup. So what options are available for Connor Daily?

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Speaker 2: As the racing season comes to a close this weekend

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Speaker 2: F one from Abu Dhabi and here at Circuit of

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Speaker 2: the America is the World Racing League comes to a finish.

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Speaker 3: Hello and welcome.

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Speaker 2: It's Trackside ninety three to five, one oh seven five

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Speaker 2: the Fan in Indianapolis and in Austin, Texas.

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Speaker 3: So Kurt I thought.

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Speaker 2: We'd go exploring because we're casually employed in the off

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Speaker 2: season and it's supposed to be warmer in Texas. I

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Speaker 2: made the trip of Jackson this weekend and it's cole dreary, rainey,

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Speaker 3: We'll talk more about that Ian just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: We've gotten dues to get to, including Grandpa Cavn.

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Speaker 3: Give us the full details you left us with a cliffhanger.

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Speaker 1: Last week, well, I left you with a cliffhanger because

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Speaker 1: she's adorable. And I have left photos to my daughter's discretion,

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Speaker 1: You have all those fears and apprehensions as a first

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Speaker 1: and you know that pretty much the baby is indestructible

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Speaker 2: that's what I deduced from this, they confirmed that Stingray

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Speaker 3: This is from Michael J. Smith. I know we were

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Speaker 2: Coin specify which year he would make that second driver announcement.

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Speaker 2: Dale as much as any owner that I talked to,

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Speaker 2: You know, these drivers that you and I are not

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Speaker 2: Sure that's possible, I don't gather that that is happening,

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Speaker 2: Connor gambled on himself this time last year and said

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Speaker 1: the information. I think we'll hear about it soon, but

436
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think there's been a whole

437
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: lot of public information yet distributed.

438
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 2: I feel like I read something month or two ago

439
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: from Marshall Prood on racer dot com, so you can

440
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: confirm there's been no announcement from IndyCar correct.

441
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: Correct, correct.

442
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 3: So I thought he.

443
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was sourcing or if he

444
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: had quotes from Doug Bowls, But I thought what I

445
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 2: recall reading out of that, And I think the reason

446
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: I didn't bring it up because it didn't really seem

447
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: like there was anything super significant. But I thought it

448
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 2: was reported that it would not be outsourced, correct.

449
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 3: You know, I get the.

450
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 2: Reporting is so we get it'll need a little more

451
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 2: details on what is going to be different from the

452
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 2: way it has been.

453
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: I think it'll be different. I mean, I've you know,

454
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: sat around the water cooler, if you will, and tried

455
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: to discern some bit of structure and context and so forth.

456
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be FII you know,

457
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: operated yeah, you know, that would be totally outsourced. I

458
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: don't think that's the way it's going to go. It

459
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: probably is a bl end of the situations, but I

460
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: do think you'll see a firewall, if you will, between

461
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: competition and officiating, and that ultimately, you know, people are

462
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: always going to have questions when Team Penski is involved.

463
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: I just don't see any other way. People are always

464
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: going to ask the question is this pro or con

465
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: for helping or hurting Team Penske when it comes to

466
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: a decision made off officiating. I just don't see another way.

467
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: But you just try to build up enough. Again, A

468
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: firewall is the word I can come up with that

469
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: would that would help alleviate some of that those questions

470
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: that come up.

471
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 2: Something I just you mentioned something posted on social something else.

472
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: It's all posted on social today that I want to see.

473
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 2: And I don't think we ever got into this. When

474
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 2: they were smoothing out the bump and turned who you know,

475
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: they went down and looked at some bricks remaining from

476
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: nineteen oh nine and nineteen eleven, and they were savvy

477
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: on this that hey, let's make sure we have a

478
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: video crew out here. And I saw some clips of

479
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: Donald Davidson out there talking about, you know, just reliving

480
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: that history. So I'm looking forward to seeing that YouTube

481
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: special that IMS has produced about the bricks and crushed.

482
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: Hard that we got to look at, you know, literally.

483
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: Over a century of history that they uncovered here in

484
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: the last couple of months.

485
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: So that's a four part series. I should have looked

486
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: to see what day that starts, but it will be

487
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: fascinating to watch. I've not seen it. I've certainly talked

488
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: to the people who put it together, and I know

489
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: it's good content, great content, stuff that you and I

490
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: and our many listeners will really enjoy. It is history.

491
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: It is something that you know, no other sports league

492
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: or sports venue, let alone a racetrack can have this

493
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: kind of moment to dig up something that's really gets

494
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: to the essence of what the brickyard is all about.

495
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: So it's it's very cool.

496
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: Coming up next, something else I forgot to talk about

497
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 2: last week, as I've had a chance to look at

498
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: the new exhibit at the IMS Museum. We'll speak to

499
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 2: that and get to Twitter questions via x. Coming up

500
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 2: at Kevin Lee twenty three at Kurk Cavin. Can you

501
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 2: hear the race cars in the background, Kurt just door

502
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: just faintly, so floggably live.

503
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 3: You'll hear them a little bit louder at this point.

504
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: There's a roller coaster here now at Circle of the

505
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: America's multiple roller coasters that they're building at this point,

506
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: So we'll maybe get into that before we're done if

507
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: we have time. We got the more stuff we got

508
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: to cover, we'll do that next On track side, Hi, this.

509
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: Is Rene speak and you're listening to trek Size.

510
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 2: It's tracks ie ninety three to five, one oh seven

511
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 2: five the fan in Indianapolis. Before I forget, next week's

512
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 2: show is back to Tuesday, so next Tuesday, so we'll

513
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: have a short turnaround.

514
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 3: Still one more, Kurt.

515
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: I feel like all is right in the world because

516
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: dale Coin Racing has re established control.

517
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: Of TBA TBD. Correct, that's right. I have that for

518
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: a few.

519
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: Years, and there was nobody more excited to get StingRay's

520
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: announcement made outside of Stingray and Peter Rossi than dale Coin,

521
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: whose value on that seat just went up.

522
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 2: And the quote I thought of with Stingray as we

523
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 2: all wondered about them putting up a TBA on the

524
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: Hukohs Hollinger website and wondering what's going on here at

525
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: this point, the Stingray should have just posted Rumors of

526
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: my demise were greatly exaggerated, quoting who literary people who.

527
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the other thing is.

528
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: About stain Mark Wayne, come on quite along?

529
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, Yeah. StingRay's such a good guy. He's such

530
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: a good spirit, he's he really is somebody to cheer for.

531
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: I hope his results in year two earn him a seat,

532
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 1: you know, moving forward, regardless of what's series it's in.

533
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: But he's such a good personality and just a person

534
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: you could enjoy being around. So if you haven't really

535
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: been around him, he's somebody you can root for.

536
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, you know, I know I said

537
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: this presuming that it was announced as a multi year contract.

538
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: So what's going on? So I did a Google search

539
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: last week and I couldn't find anything that announced it

540
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: last year as a multi year deal. So from that standpoint,

541
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: you know this it just depended on who you ask.

542
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: And the reason we were speaking about it being a

543
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: multi year deal is I think we all that we're kind.

544
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 3: Of digging into this. We're asking around.

545
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: And when I was doing my silly season list for

546
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: Fox in August, I asked Peter Ross. He said, Hey,

547
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: I'm making a list of open seats free agent drivers.

548
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: Should Stingray be on the list? And he said no,

549
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: he has a multi year contract, so that's where information

550
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: was from, But the team never did announce at the

551
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: end of twenty twenty four that Stingray had agreed to

552
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: a multi year contract.

553
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: So what it's really.

554
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: Sounding like is it was probably a multi year contract,

555
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: but there are clauses and incentives, and it certainly looks

556
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: like it at least was opened up to some extents

557
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: and they considered other options and came to the conclusion

558
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 2: Stingray is our best option, all things considered. So we

559
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: talked about that at the beginning of the show and

560
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: we're happy about that. There's a new exhibit at the

561
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: IMS Museum. I had a chance to see last week

562
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: because my picture was on the wall and so I

563
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: wanted to see that.

564
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: Now.

565
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: Understandably, I am only included in the now Stay Tuned

566
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: exhibit because I'm one of the current announcers. I've had

567
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: a few questions, Hey, is so and so up there,

568
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: so and so.

569
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 3: No.

570
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, there are many broadcasters that have much longer and

571
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: more impactful careers in Indianapolis five hundred broadcasting than people

572
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: like me.

573
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 3: But there's just too many.

574
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: But I will say this, it's more than I expected,

575
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: and that's what Jamie Little and I both said when

576
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: we went and visited it together, and Paul Page was there,

577
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: Mark James was there, Georgia Henneberry from the Fox crew

578
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: was there. We kind of thought this was going to

579
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: be like a wall or a closet or something like this,

580
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: but this is the same area down below where they

581
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: had the four time winners exhibit last year. So this

582
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: is what three rooms. It's really cool. It's going to

583
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: be up until June. I would highly recommend it.

584
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet, and I'll get over there.

585
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: I think I actually saw my photo over there. You

586
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: probably didn't notice it, but what I thought was really

587
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: cool and I appreciate that they did this. There's a

588
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: section on the main level, I believe where they have

589
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: newspaper clipping newspaper or front pages of past races and

590
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: uh so that was really cool just to see some

591
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: different years. I think they were all the Penske years,

592
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: perhaps Penske Championship years.

593
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen you and Robbing and any of the

594
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: other days. It's just really cool from all of the

595
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: Penske winners that's been up there for a year that.

596
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just didn't know if you had. Oh yeah,

597
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: and by the way, I'm not gloating or something. That

598
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: was just my job and that's where they put my

599
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: Some of my best stories were never on the cover

600
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: of those those newspapers. But but I really, you know,

601
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: it's such a it did such a good job at

602
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: this museum. I mean, this is just a little throwaway

603
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: our parts, but it's just really cool what they've done.

604
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: I see see Jason, you know, and the team, and

605
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: I'm just so so proud of the work they did.

606
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: You know, we had I had such high expectations for

607
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: what a museum could be. I just never thought they'd

608
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: get there. I just didn't know if that, if the

609
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: right karmo was going to come together to make it

610
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: a great museum. That's a great museum, and so good

611
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: on them. And it's more than just a museum. It's

612
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: a wonderful entertainment space too, yeah, to do for corporations

613
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: to host guests and everything else.

614
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: There's also a I think it's called setting the pace.

615
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 2: There's eight or nine pace cars, historical pace cars that

616
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: are down where the NASCAR cars were for the brickyard

617
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: four hundred down the basement, so lots of cool stuff.

618
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: Both of those exhibits will be there until June. Let's

619
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: get to some questions via the xbox. We announced last

620
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 2: week the Burger batches coming back next year, moving to

621
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: the weekend Thursday at the USAC Building Thursday of nighty

622
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: five hundred week in. Rick Johnson says moving to Thursday

623
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: is great, but last time there were no chairs to

624
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: fit unlike the ninety six Street Stake Burger setup, so

625
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: you had to stand for three or four hours.

626
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 3: There were only.

627
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: Chairs for wealthy VIPs or locals who could bring chairs.

628
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 2: Will they beat chairs in twenty twenty six? Can somebody

629
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: bring Rick a chair? Did we have chairs at ninety

630
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: sixth Street? I think Rick might have just sat in

631
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: somebody's chair when they got up and they were too

632
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 2: polite to correct him.

633
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: No, we had chairs.

634
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 3: We had okas, Now we need a chare sponsor.

635
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: Did we have five hundred chairs? I can't remember what

636
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: the total was, but we had chairs.

637
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: Okay, we need a chair sponsor so Rick can have

638
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: a seat for next year, and just some hoosier says,

639
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: I'll only show a cluster truck brings back to Connerberger. Oh,

640
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: so that is a negotiation between Cluster Truck and Connor daily,

641
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: so we are optimistic for that.

642
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: I can tell you Cluster Truck has.

643
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 2: Already confirmed they will be involved once again, so that's

644
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: very very positive news. Indy car Ken, I think he

645
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: asked this a few weeks ago to is a date

646
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 2: for the April twenty twenty six IMS oval test been

647
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: announced or someone else did.

648
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 3: They have not announced it, but we've told you we

649
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: think it'll be in late April.

650
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 2: So they usually don't announce these until March ish something

651
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 2: like that, but somebody.

652
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: Will leak it at some points. Yeah, it we'll be

653
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 3: Kirk Cavin.

654
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Speaker 1: It will not be me. It does start with it two,

655
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: so it'll be after Long Beach, but I don't I

656
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: actually can't remember the exact date. But it's deep in

657
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: the month of April, and you'll have plenty of advanced notice.

658
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: It's not like you got to buy a ticket in advance,

659
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: so it'll happen.

660
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: Well, unless it's thirty three degrees in raining, then it'll

661
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 2: happen the next day or the day after.

662
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: It will happen after dale Coin announces as second driver.

663
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: Barely leg IV twenty twenty five says or asks chances

664
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: of Richmond getting bought by Roger.

665
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 3: Is there some rumor out there I'm not aware of.

666
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: I've not seen that. I just don't think. I think

667
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: there is interest. I know there's interest in getting back

668
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: to the eastern part of the country on behalf of

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Speaker 1: Penske Entertainment. I just don't know if like New Hampshire

670
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: and Richmond, I don't know if that's where that's where

671
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: it would be some.

672
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: I think all of those things are possible, but chances

673
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: of him buying it, I would think are slim to none.

674
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: I would think Penske Entertainment has enough going on. I

675
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: would be shocked to find out if they are interested

676
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: in purchasing a racetrack.

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00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't seem like they're mo at this point. Yeah,

678
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: to be great.

679
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: I'd love it if it happened, that'd be wonderful, but

680
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: it would really surprise me. That said, sometimes things happen

681
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 2: that are really surprising. So maybe Doug knows something that

682
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: some of the rest of us don't know. At this point,

683
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: Lynn asked if the amazing Gary Gerald made the exhibit.

684
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: He may have been in there. I didn't notice Gary,

685
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: but that was part of There are a lot of

686
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: people that don't have specific sections that probably deserve some.

687
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 3: There are a lot of very.

688
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: Well known and rod casters that made major contributions, and

689
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 2: there's only so much space available. Lynn also wondered where

690
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 2: the picture that I think I posted where were Will

691
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: Buxton and Jack Harvey. Will remember Jack Harvey was not

692
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: a part of the Indy five hundred broadcast officially. He

693
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: was doing cool things like driving in the race, and

694
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: Will had his own section, So Will definitely had a

695
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 2: picture up there of himself as just was on the

696
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: other side. The Cincy Buckeye says this is probably a

697
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: question for Kurt. The whole inside of the front stretch

698
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: at IMMS had been basically rebuilt over the last twenty

699
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: five years. Are the stands on the outside off limits

700
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: or could we see those rebuilt and modernized one day

701
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: with better site lines?

702
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: So is the question about the seats on the outside

703
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: of the on the racetrack? Is it possible?

704
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, like, could they you know, Georgetown Road really

705
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: no longer as a road? Could they do something and

706
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: move that back? Or I suppose something different with those stamps.

707
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: I suppose they could. I guess I'd be surprised. The

708
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: structure is what the structure is. And you know, I

709
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: am kind of amazed there's some seats and some of

710
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: my closest friends have seats down low right through there,

711
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: and I just don't know what the allure of the

712
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: seat is. I guess it's seeing pre race and being

713
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: close to the action and right by the flag stand,

714
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. But I'd want to set a

715
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: little higher, But I don't think. I think that's a

716
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: challenge to to kind of rework that.

717
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,959
Speaker 2: It's something, you know, be akin to what Daytona did,

718
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: and they did their project whatever it was, ten years ago.

719
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: You'd basically be tearing it down and starting over. That

720
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: would be a major, major undertaking to do. And I

721
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: don't see how you could get something like that done

722
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: from one race to the next race, even if you

723
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: didn't worry about the brickyard, you know, in eleven months.

724
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 2: I don't see how that gets done agreed. And it

725
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: would be massively expensive, and I don't know that it's necessary. Honestly,

726
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: you'd have to.

727
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: And the other thing is, because of the dimension of

728
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: the racetrack, you would have to do it all because

729
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: you there would be parts of the grandstands if they left,

730
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: let's say, down there near turn four, you'd have to

731
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: take that out too, or your sightline is non existent.

732
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that would be a big one.

733
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: So yeah, never say never, but I'd be surprised if

734
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: anything like that is happening in the near term.

735
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: It's not happening in the near term.

736
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: I can tell you that Cam Soube's fl says, I

737
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: hope they're working on this year's Carb Day bands. I

738
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: see a lot of them already have posted their tour

739
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: schedules for next year.

740
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 3: I'm sure they're working on that.

741
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: They may already have it kind of narrowed down, they

742
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: may already have signed.

743
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: I don't know about signed, but it's certainly that's you know,

744
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: filling out the entertainment and the you know, just all

745
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: the things that go into a month of May that

746
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: that's so far play and out. They're already thinking about

747
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven and what that looks like. So you know,

748
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: keep in mind that people are forethinking all the time.

749
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: I heard a lot of great things about IndyCar Weekend

750
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: at the Speedway Memorial Day Weekend today during the retreat,

751
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: and let me just tell you, it's exciting stuff. I'm

752
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: so excited to see Carbon Day. I mean, there's going

753
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: to be new elements, and just the energy around the

754
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: race weekend is just unbelievable. I just really I really

755
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: appreciate being a part of it. You know, this is

756
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: thirty nine years to be working the event this year,

757
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 1: next year, and just it's just so cool.

758
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: I like hearing things about the Indianapolis five hundred on

759
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: cold December days, That's right. It kind of helps us

760
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: get in the holiday.

761
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: Spirit as well.

762
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 2: All Right, I don't know where we're at on time,

763
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: so we're going to break here and then we'll come

764
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: back with what we missed in mourning moment. It tracks

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Speaker 2: I one oh seven. Hi, this is justin Newgarten and

766
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 2: you're listening to trackside. Okay, final segment. What we missed

767
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 2: If we missed it, I'm still missing it because I

768
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: just did a quick check of the Twitter machine and

769
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 2: not seeing anything else. So it reconvene coming up again

770
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 2: next Tuesday. Will we have a dale Coin racing announcement?

771
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 2: My guests will be no, but I'm gonna say this,

772
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: I think we will have.

773
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 3: One before we get to Christmas.

774
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: I think Dale will stay true to his word, not

775
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: that it really matters. He doesn't owe us anything, but

776
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 2: I think he's going to have things solved.

777
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 3: The F one season will be over.

778
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 2: He'll get to kind of go through that landscape as

779
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: where everyone is going to land there and find out

780
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: where everyone's at.

781
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 3: And I think they're going to want.

782
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: To know where things are at before we get to January,

783
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: because not much happens between about December twentieth until January second,

784
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: So he'd like to have everything buttoned up and then

785
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 2: the racing season will cross one those milestones obstacles getting

786
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 2: as closer to IndyCar season.

787
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 3: After this weekend, F one will be done.

788
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: Looking forward to watching that and see what happens as

789
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 2: far as the championship. And just because I am, as

790
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 2: we like to say, casually employed right now, I came

791
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 2: with Jackson to the season finale for one of his

792
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: side projects. It's been fun this year running in a

793
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: series called the World Racing League. It's basically a mini

794
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: IMSA for different classes of cars, some very talented drivers.

795
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: There are a couple of NASCAR drivers that have been

796
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: here throughout the year. There are a lot of regular

797
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: ims to drivers. We've had IndyCar drivers and he gets

798
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: to help engineer the car and coach other drivers and

799
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: get to do some fun things, and he's never been

800
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: to CODA.

801
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 3: Before, so kind of tick one off the box.

802
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: So he'll have fifteen hours of racing on Saturday and

803
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: Sunday in two races, and we will talk again next

804
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: Tuesday about what's happening in IndyCar. Thanks for joining us tonight.

805
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: Landing Koon's our studio producer for Kurt.

806
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: I'm Kevin. Thanks for joining us,