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Speaker 2: He said, well, that's what the conversation will be about

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Speaker 1: So let's bring it back to the Oval Office. President

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Speaker 4: Decision to offer Ukraine are five life security here tees,

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Speaker 2: How about it's not what we owe you, but rather

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Speaker 2: Sure, let's go back to President Trump here with redistricting.

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Speaker 1: On the table. And it could mean, well, it means

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Speaker 2: It could mean it could mean a lot. You could

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Speaker 2: massage that in a bunch of ways. But this is happening.

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Speaker 2: The meeting will commence soon with the European leaders, President

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