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Speaker 1: Live from the heartland and the crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: It's our expectation that the House will vote at some

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Speaker 2: point tomorrow and House Democrats will strongly oppose any legislation

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Speaker 2: that does not decisively address the Republican healthcare crisis. We

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Speaker 2: want to reopen the government. We will continue to stand

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Speaker 2: by our hardworking federal employees and civil servants. But we

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Speaker 2: have a responsibility to make sure that we extend the

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Speaker 2: Affordable Care attax credits so that tens of millions of

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Speaker 2: Americans don't experience dramatically increase health care costs that's going

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Speaker 2: to prevent them from being able to see a doctor

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Speaker 2: when they need one.

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Speaker 3: What you need to do, Hakeem Jeffries, is get whatever

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Speaker 3: it is that you've got stuck up somewhere out of

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Speaker 3: that place, and we have to start rethinking healthcare altogether.

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Speaker 4: Obamacare is a failure.

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Speaker 3: It's time for America to grow the hell up, Tony

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Speaker 3: kats So that is me, Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 4: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Everybody eight three three four six eight eight sixty six'

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Speaker 3: nine eight three three Got. Tony that's how you get

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Speaker 3: to be a part of the. Program that'sa Chem, Jeffries

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Speaker 3: House Minority. Leader of, course this legislation has passed The

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Speaker 3: senate what they're calling a minibus as opposed to an,

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Speaker 3: omnibus and it's going to keep certain parts of the

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Speaker 3: government funded Through september of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: Six parts of the, government those are going TO i

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Speaker 4: think That's. JANUARY i think It's january when we're back

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Speaker 4: at all of this. Again of course it's, annoying it's,

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Speaker 4: nonsense but here we. Are this is what we've, got

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Speaker 4: AND i.

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Speaker 3: Have no idea how much of pain and then you

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Speaker 3: know What Hakeem jeffaries is going to. BE i have

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Speaker 3: no idea if there's going to be an issue getting

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Speaker 3: things through The.

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Speaker 4: HOUSE i thought there was gonna be a.

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Speaker 3: Real issue with The Senate Ran. Paul he wants to Protect.

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Speaker 3: Heemp No i'm not Anti, hemp mind, you but CERTAINLY

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Speaker 3: i don't quite understand why we have to take a

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Speaker 3: look at the continuing. Resolution, say, oh by the, way

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Speaker 3: weed for, EVERYBODY i know there's a, difference but could

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Speaker 3: you please just go with me just for a.

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Speaker 4: Moment thank? You things the things you have to ask

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Speaker 4: for a pass for, GUYS i thought he was going

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Speaker 4: to be more of an.

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Speaker 3: ISSUE i Thought Senate democrats were going to be more

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Speaker 3: of an. Issue but it wasn't the. Case and it

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Speaker 3: passed The senate last. Night so now it has to

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Speaker 3: go to The house to be. Passed and you say to,

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Speaker 3: me but it already passed The.

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Speaker 4: HOUSE i don't.

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Speaker 3: Know, well past The house is not what passed The.

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Speaker 3: Senate The senate did something. Different now The house has

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Speaker 3: to look at. It The house has its rules and

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Speaker 3: its regulations that it has to. Follow so can they

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Speaker 3: get this legislation voted on By? Wednesday AND i know

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Speaker 3: what you're, saying they're going to Vote you mean they've

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Speaker 3: never ever ever read? It, oh they probably didn't read

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Speaker 4: Two oh, yeah it's, great. Sir is that how twenty

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Speaker 4: two year old sound produced To? Landon DID i get that?

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Speaker 4: WRONG i, mean it's never written near my, Voice BUT

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Speaker 4: i Mean i'll take. It you're not twenty, two are?

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Speaker 4: You i'm twenty three? Three that's, right you're a.

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Speaker 5: Man, wow, GUYS i don't mean it's a brutal, day BUT.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they read, it they're just gonna pass,

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Speaker 4: Of what's in. It and does that Mean wednesday Or.

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Speaker 3: Thursday it gets, passed and So friday it's on The president's,

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Speaker 3: daskan it's all over this.

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Speaker 4: Week, well if you're an air traffic, controller you. Hope so.

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Speaker 3: If you are in the, military you. Hope so if

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Speaker 3: you're a kid on, snap you hope so OR i don't,

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Speaker 3: know Maybe democrats will try and delay things and hope

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Speaker 3: KNOW i was told That Donald trump was gonna make kids,

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Speaker 3: starve and then you Saw trump, saying my, gosh we

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Speaker 3: should engage the filibusters so we.

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Speaker 3: Passed and then you Saw democrats come across and say

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Speaker 3: to reopen the. Government And democrats said. No so It's

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Speaker 3: democrats who wanted show to. Starve they said it Up,

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Speaker 3: Said they Said republicans wanted to children to. Starve, Clearly

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Speaker 3: Hakeem jeffries wants children to. Starve he's thrilled and overjoyed

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Speaker 3: by this.

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Speaker 6: Idea as you, know the bill that will be on

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Speaker 6: The house floor would fund the federal government until the

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Speaker 6: end Of january some key agencies through the end of next.

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Speaker 6: Year what do you see happening On january, Thirtieth, WELL i.

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Speaker 2: Think what's going to be important over the next few

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Speaker 2: weeks once this issue is resolved relative to this particular

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Speaker 2: piece of legislation is that On december thirty, first The

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Speaker 2: Affordable Care act tax credits, expire and dozens Of House

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Speaker 2: republicans have been claiming over the last few weeks that

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Speaker 2: whether it was just talk from These House republicans Because

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Speaker 2: democrats are going to continue to stay in the arena

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Speaker 2: as it relates to dealing with the healthcare crisis That

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Speaker 2: republicans have visited on The american.

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Speaker 3: People he has no, capacity does A Keeing jeffries for

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Speaker 3: any level of. Decency we should be clear that it

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Speaker 3: is my, belief.

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Speaker 4: Having now had more chance to study the.

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Speaker 3: SUBJECT i made the argument That President trump would be

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Speaker 3: in favor of the subsidies populacey who does not want

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Speaker 3: to see prices or costs go up while he's in.

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Speaker 3: to worry about. Midterms all politics are, local and while

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Speaker 3: the thing certainly does not, work you don't want voters

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Speaker 3: unhappy that they have to pay. More there's a guy

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Speaker 3: by the name Of Ovik, roy and if you haven't

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Speaker 3: heard him from freeop friopp freeop dot, org where he is.

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Speaker 4: The co founder and.

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Speaker 3: Chairman his work on healthcare policy is, excellent And i'll

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Speaker 3: share with you my conversation with him regarding the complete

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Speaker 3: rethinks we have to. Do subsidies don't save, Us obamacare doesn't,

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Speaker 3: Work obamacare raised the price of health. Insurance Hakeem jeffries

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Speaker 3: extend the, subsidies which all could have happened without a,

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Speaker 3: and we have A congressman by the name Of Hakeem

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Speaker 4: Work it was a.

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Speaker 3: Lie Barack obama. LIED i don't Think i'm telling you

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Speaker 3: anything you didn't already. Know Barack obama. Lied The Democratic party.

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Speaker 3: Lied they're still. Lying The Affordable Care act is so

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Speaker 3: for people to afford. It that's not. Affordable that's a

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Speaker 3: load of. Bs that's What obamacare. Is republicans have not

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Speaker 3: done any. Job i'm not going to say not a good.

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Speaker 3: what we have to do to replace. This they haven't

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Speaker 3: we can replace it, with WHICH i favor replacing it

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Speaker 4: Things you.

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Speaker 3: Know President trump has been discussing the idea of, well my,

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Speaker 3: gosh let's just send the money. Back let's just send

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Speaker 3: it back to the. People trump saying he's gonna abide

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Speaker 3: by the deal to end the government, shutdown but he

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Speaker 3: wants to put an end To obamacare. Subsidies why in

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Speaker 3: the world are we giving the money to all these

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Speaker 3: insurance companies in these hospital. Groups, no, no, no, no

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Speaker 3: we should give the money directly to the. People, well

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Speaker 3: maybe we should have a conversation about why the government

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Speaker 4: Thankful how about we just keep our.

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Speaker 3: Money but more to the point here IS i Thought

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Speaker 3: rid of the. Subsidies, no, no, no, no he wants to

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Speaker 3: change how we think about the. Dollars he doesn't have

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Speaker 3: the plan, yet he has the.

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Speaker 4: Broad strokes and the.

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Speaker 3: Concepts And i'll be the first one to, Say, okay

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Speaker 3: let's build on, that let's grow on. That and why

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Speaker 3: Don't republicans consider the idea that they need to show

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Speaker 3: up for the midterm, saying look at this. Plan we're

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Speaker 3: going to reduce costs, finally once and for.

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Speaker 4: All we're going to change the way the system.

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Speaker 3: about the hospital. Groups it's about. You we're not going

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Speaker 3: to lie to you Like Barack obama. Did here you.

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Speaker 3: it appears that as a CONCEPT i was right about

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Speaker 3: we just send the money? ELSEWHERE i would, argue why

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Speaker 3: does it cost so? Much and why do we have

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Speaker 3: Do one could argue that one of the byproducts of

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Speaker 3: Democratic party seems pleased by this. Idea why you've done

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Speaker 3: such a good job of?

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Speaker 4: It obamacare is such a good job of.

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Speaker 3: It if we are now going to be addressing this,

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Speaker 4: This is the, result.

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Speaker 3: Well then why don't we address the fact That obamacare

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Speaker 3: sucks and it was a lie And Barack obama is

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Speaker 3: a no, good dirty two bit liar fraud And Akeem

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Speaker 3: jeffries isn't interested in something better for The american. People

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Speaker 3: he doesn't care that a whole group Of americans get

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Speaker 3: as he appeases a more radicalized base day by, day

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Speaker 3: being in favor of This obamacare nonsense. Garbage you're telling

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Speaker 3: us that without, Subsidies obamacare is. Unaffordable what you have

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Speaker 3: told me is we can't go further down the road

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Speaker 3: of government. HEALTHCARE i know that's gonna be The Bernie sanders.

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Speaker 3: Line But Bernie sanders has never done anything with his.

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Speaker 3: Life he's never created. Anything he is a taker from day,

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Speaker 3: one a government, employee a government, employee a government. Employee

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Speaker 3: the only thing he ever took was a wife who

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Speaker 3: bankrupted a. College that's. It nothing. Else the answer is

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Speaker 3: not more of their government run in. Sanity the answer

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Speaker 3: is a better plan. Now no matter What republicans.

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Speaker 4: Do and here is the political.

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Speaker 3: Reality The democrats are going to, say you're hurting poor.

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Speaker 4: You a, dime and everybody is going to get a.

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Speaker 3: The New York times your. Cronies The Washington post is your.

436
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Speaker 3: Cronies what possibly are you addressing? Here WHAT i believe

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Speaker 3: she is addressing is the recognition that under a certain,

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Speaker 3: Age i'm not sure where that certain age would, be

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Speaker 3: they have no connection, Whatsoever they don't mean, anything and

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Speaker 3: these influencers have way more power than we ever. Imagined

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Speaker 3: that's something that's, really really. SOMETHING i don't.

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Speaker 4: Know what's more.

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Speaker 3: Relevatory there the the the revelation that she knows she's

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Speaker 3: losing the ability to Connect or is it the revelation

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Speaker 3: that they go ON cnn to self soothe and they

446
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 3: don't actually reach an audience that cares or knows that they're.

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Speaker 3: Alive that's really interesting and maybe it'll make me rethink

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Speaker 3: some of my own some of my own, thoughts because

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Speaker 3: it's a stunning. Admission and so if that is the,

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Speaker 3: case why then do people still continue to do this?

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Speaker 3: Programming i've said this Of. Republicans why Any republican goes

452
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Speaker 3: ON abc is beyond. Me haven't you learned already That

453
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 3: George stephanopolis is not to be. Trusted isn't this clear?

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Speaker 3: Already why in the world would anybody do? It you,

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Speaker 3: know there's a story out Of chicago that border patrol

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Speaker 3: is going to be Leaving, Chicago immigrations And customs enforcement will.

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Speaker 3: Remain IF i listen to the CNNs of the, world

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00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: everybody HATES, ice everybody hates border, patrol and everybody thinks

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Speaker 3: that we're attacking.

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Speaker 4: People on the.

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Speaker 3: STREETS i will tell, you if you walk up to

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Speaker 3: somebody and ask them if they have their, papers that's An.

463
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: American we don't do that. Here if you know who's here,

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Speaker 3: illegally and you go arrest. Them that's totally. Normal and

465
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: good people who break the law get. Arrested that's the

466
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: way it. Goes so Now i've got THE CNNs and

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Speaker 3: THE ms. Now so they, did they called it ms

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Speaker 3: now and they they are saying that everybody hates. This maybe.

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Speaker 3: Not who are they speaking to the same liberal white

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Speaker 3: women who hate, everything the Same berkeley feministas who hate?

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Speaker 3: Everything who are they talking? To, Wait summer lean now

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00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 3: makes us ask the question they keep telling us about these,

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Speaker 3: things but are these things that they're telling us actually?

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Speaker 3: Accurate and you, say to, Me, tony you already know

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Speaker 3: they're not, Accurate BUT i have never heard them admit

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Speaker 3: it so much before they are admitting. It and that

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Speaker 3: is a story which would say to. Me and we

478
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Speaker 3: need to get more and more people connected in a

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Speaker 3: social media.

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Speaker 4: World we need to get more and more people, connected.

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Speaker 3: And we need to be more supportive of these things

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Speaker 3: that are happening. Online, now we also need to be

483
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Speaker 3: more discerning of online, audiences OR i should say of

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Speaker 3: online content. Creators are people putting out stuff that has?

485
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Speaker 3: Value are they putting out that's just slock crap and

486
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: hopefully they get a couple of clicks and.

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00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 4: The more outrageous the. Better that's an.

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Speaker 3: Issue But summerly's admission, here, OKAY i think.

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Speaker 4: Everyone should take very very good notice of what it.

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Speaker 4: Is she just.

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Speaker 3: Said I'm Tony, katz and this right here Is Tony

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Speaker 3: katz today.

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00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 4: Asked just like he was as a, president.

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Speaker 10: How Do republicans avoid this shutdown saga from reoccurring On

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Speaker 10: january thirtieth when this deal.

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Speaker 11: Ends, well we're trying to put in a, bill as you,

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Speaker 11: know the bill or a bill that you can never

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Speaker 11: do that. Again you can't just shut down the government

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Speaker 11: because you're trying to renegotiate a deal that you. Didn't

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Speaker 11: don't forget when we passed a, great, big beautiful bill

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Speaker 11: which gives you a tremendous middle income tax benefits and

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Speaker 11: tremendous it gives so.

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Speaker 4: Much to every think of.

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Speaker 11: It no tax and, tips no tax on Social Social, security.

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00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: And no tax very importantly on.

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Speaker 11: Overtime if you work, overtime you don't have to pay,

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00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 11: tax so many other.

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Speaker 4: Things it gives you a.

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Speaker 11: Deduction if you buy a, car you borrow, money you

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00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 11: put a loan in a, car you're allowed to deduct the.

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00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 11: Interest that's never happened in our country. Before you, know

512
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 11: that's always been for the richer. People they're allowed to take.

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Speaker 11: Deductions now you can deduct interest on a, Car so

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Speaker 11: we have tremendous goodies in. There you.

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Speaker 4: Know they like to try and disparage.

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Speaker 11: It, oh it's the greatest bill ever passed in the

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Speaker 11: history of a.

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Speaker 12: Country that's, okay, okay we get that you like, It

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Speaker 12: But i'm not sure if the one big beautiful bill

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Speaker 12: is the greatest bill past in the history of our.

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Speaker 4: Country, oh holy, hell it's so. Great Tony Kats Tony cats.

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Speaker 3: Today unbelievable is the only way it could be, said

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Speaker 3: the only way it can be. Stated it's just it

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Speaker 3: is the gift that keeps on. GIVING i will get

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00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: into what is still going on with a, shutdown.

526
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 4: Because it's not.

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00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: Resolved The house still has to, vote it has to

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Speaker 3: get to The president's, desk And i'm not one.

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Speaker 4: Hundred percent sure how it's all gonna work. OUT i

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Speaker 4: don't know how The democrats are going to try and

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Speaker 4: delay things in The. House i'm assuming they're going.

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Speaker 3: To, try BUT i don't like the threat of air traffic,

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Speaker 3: controllers And i'm not sure how you give other air

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Speaker 3: traffic controllers.

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Speaker 4: A ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: Bonus but it all leads to the same.

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Speaker 4: Thing with the.

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Speaker 3: Economics there's a great opportunity for the. PRESIDENT i want

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Speaker 3: them to take it BECAUSE i believe he can deliver.

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Speaker 3: It he can deliver it exceptionally. Well but he's got

541
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Speaker 3: to take. It, meanwhile there is a host of other

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00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: subjects to get, to Including Jimmy kimmel's. Wife and you

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00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 3: say to, Me, tony, honestly are we scraping the bottom

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Speaker 3: of the?

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Speaker 4: Barrel oh, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: No she brought up a subject that, matters fifty year,

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Speaker 3: mortgages And democrats are trying to stemy, Mom.

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Speaker 4: Donni This Tony Gots today.

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Speaker 1: Line from, Ball heartland and The crossroads Of. America It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Cats.

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Speaker 13: TODAY i think some people believe.

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00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: THAT i Think President trump is not capable of handling the. Economy,

553
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 3: NO i think he's more than capable of handling these.

554
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 3: Things i've seen him do. IT i think that the

555
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: push on tariffs is. Misguided it's okay to say we're

556
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: all grown ups Here Tony, Katz Tony katz, today so

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Speaker 3: good to be with.

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Speaker 4: You find everything At Tony kats Dot. Com the numbers

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Speaker 4: go along with THINGS i have been.

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Speaker 3: Saying we've been saying here That americans don't think the

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Speaker 3: economy is.

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00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 4: GREAT i would, argue AS i, have.

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00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: That americans think that there's more opportunity With Donald trump

564
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: at the helm.

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00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 4: Than Joe biden Than Kamala. Harris of, this there is no.

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Speaker 3: Doubt but you have not seen enough prices go down

567
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: in enough, places and AS i have, argued you have

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00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 3: not heard the argument be made with, efficacy with, strength

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Speaker 3: with repeated vision and repeated measure that we are in

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00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: the fight right now and we will get there if

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00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: we DO, x we DO, y we DO, z and

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00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 3: we need everybody to be on board with. Us bring

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00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: people into the, fight make them feel they're a part of,

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00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: it and you will get a better.

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00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 4: Result Harry nton.

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00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 3: Is the guy who does the numbers over there AT,

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Speaker 3: Cnn AND i know what you're gonna, Say tony AT,

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00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 3: cnn Except Harry nton is very good at breaking down the.

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Speaker 3: Numbers and we've discussed his stuff. Before he's solid on.

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Speaker 3: It he is very very good at. It this was

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Speaker 3: his take on the, economy as.

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Speaker 14: In trump is trying and sell The american folks aren't,

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00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 14: buying and we can see it pretty. Simply. Here take

584
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 14: a look. Here this is consumer, sentiment the current. Conditions

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00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 14: consumer sentiment can be the current conditions or it can

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Speaker 14: be future. Expectations we're looking at current. Conditions and get.

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00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 14: This according to The Universe city Of, michigan we are

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Speaker 14: dealing with the worst, ever the worst ever view of

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Speaker 14: current conditions dating all the way back.

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00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 4: Since nineteen hundred and fifty.

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00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 14: One this is record breaking in the way you don't

592
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 14: want to be breaking. Records and get, This, Kate it

593
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 14: is down thirty. Percent consumer sentiment of current conditions down

594
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 14: thirty percent From january When Donald trump took.

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00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 3: Office, now let me share at least a mistake That

596
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: Harry inton. Made Whatever Donald trump is selling The american

597
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: people aren't. BUYING i put forth to. You there hasn't

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00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 3: been a sales. Job and a sales job is not,

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00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 3: ooh look at this shiny object over, here, Right obamacare

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00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: was a sales. Job i'm talking about honestly addressing what

601
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: we're trying to get done and why these things will,

602
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: work and, yes it will take. Time, now if you

603
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 3: promised prices would get better overnight and they didn't get, better. Overnights,

604
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 3: well you have to live with, that but you can

605
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 3: go about engaging honestly with The american. People here's the,

606
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 3: plan here's the, strategy here's the work we're, doing here's

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00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: the progress we're, seeing and here is the result that

608
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: we are going to get.

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00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 4: To you can do that if you choose.

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Speaker 15: My.

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00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,959
Speaker 3: ARGUMENT i said this the other, DAY i have said

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Speaker 3: this over the last, year That trump And bessendarnen doing

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Speaker 3: enough of.

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00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 4: This you have to do a better job of, it

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Speaker 4: which is you have to do the job. Consistently if at,

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Speaker 4: all are some things? Better?

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00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely is everything? Better absolutely. Not and if you want

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Speaker 3: to tell me that insurance costs are, down why is

619
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Speaker 3: it that everyone feels that insurance costs are through the

620
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Speaker 3: roof because they don't view insurance in any level of,

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Speaker 3: well my car insurance is down five point seven.

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00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 4: Percent they view it as what was up over the last.

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Speaker 3: Years they view it as an overall conversation regarding insurance AND.

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Speaker 3: Toto and don't tell us that inflation is. Down that

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00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 3: dog won't. Hunt it's right where it's always. Been AND

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00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 3: i am not making the argument that that is Specifically trump's.

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00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: Fault the tariffs should have sent things All Caddie walpis

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00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,479
Speaker 3: and it. Didn't things are still in a better place

629
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Speaker 3: than they were Under.

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00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 4: Biden they're just not. Great they're still too damn.

631
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Speaker 3: High and if you can't accept the fact That americans

632
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Speaker 3: are going to tell you that something is too.

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00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 4: Damn, high well then you ain't ready to sit in

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Speaker 4: the big. Chair and he. Is there's no, question there's no,

635
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: debate there's no.

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00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 3: Doubt why is the administration not capitalizing on these.

637
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 4: Opportunities there's a mistake being made in my view.

638
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 3: That instead of selling the good and explaining why everything

639
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: else is coming it.

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00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 4: Is it's, great you just don't.

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00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: Understand you just won't admit, it or you call somebody

642
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: like me a stock report Publican Steve, Vannen.

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00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 4: I'm honestly addressing the. Situation no lies from this, Guy no.

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Speaker 16: Bueno that is significant in something you can't. Ignore you

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Speaker 16: shouldn't ignore. It, no you shouldn't ignore to your. Pail

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Speaker 16: how but they do not feel good about the. Economy

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Speaker 16: how much are they blaming this On President?

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Speaker 14: Trump, yeah it would be one thing That President trump

649
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Speaker 14: could ignore it if folks weren't blaming him for. It

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Speaker 14: but take a look, Here trump Blamed trump's policies have

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Speaker 14: worsened economic conditions In. America look at, This we're dealing

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Speaker 14: with a super majority. Here we're talking about more than

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Speaker 14: three in Five, americans sixty one percent who say That

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Speaker 14: trump's policies have worsened economic conditions In. America how about

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Speaker 14: worsened your own. Finances, again we're dealing with a majority.

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Speaker 4: Here fifty one.

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Speaker 14: Percent Of americans say That trump's policies have.

658
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Speaker 4: Worsened your own.

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Speaker 14: Finances this is double trouble for the president of The United.

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Speaker 4: States allow me to, say for THE i don't buy the. Numbers.

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Speaker 3: Tony you just said That trump needs to do more

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Speaker 3: about talking about the economy and make certain.

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Speaker 4: Admissions, oh absolutely. True you're gonna tell.

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Speaker 3: Me you're going to tell me that things right now

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Speaker 3: for the Average american are magically worse by magnitude.

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Speaker 4: Than During Joe.

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Speaker 3: Biden, nah you're gonna tell me that people are gonna

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Speaker 3: respond to a poll differently than they did When Joe

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Speaker 3: biden was allegedly the.

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Speaker 4: President, Yeah i'll believe. That i'll believe that in every single.

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Speaker 3: Way this part of the DATA i believe. Changes If

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Speaker 3: President trump and his team were more focused on sharing

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Speaker 3: a vision and sharing. Successes it isn't about lying To

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Speaker 3: AMERICAN i don't agree with. THIS i don't favor. This,

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Speaker 3: rather it is about sharing the good, stories sharing what has,

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Speaker 3: happened sharing what has been.

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Speaker 4: Built you're HEARING i said this On Sean spicer's show last.

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Speaker 3: Week you're finally hearing the president do. This four one

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Speaker 3: k's are. Up you know a lot of people have

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Speaker 3: four one K's and when four one k's are, up

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Speaker 3: do you really think that the economic condition is. Worsened,

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Speaker 3: now there's a difference Between Wall street And midwest Main,

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Speaker 3: street AND i think you have to Address midwest Main,

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Speaker 3: street which is a huge part of this. Conversation but

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Speaker 3: that's just. It where is the addressing of? It don't just, say,

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Speaker 3: oh Mister, president your policies have done great.

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Speaker 4: Good nobody wants to hear.

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Speaker 3: That you, know it Was President trump who, said you,

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Speaker 3: know the stadium In, washington the new stadium In washington

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Speaker 3: for the football, team it should be named after, me.

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Speaker 4: Mister.

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Speaker 3: President people want to afford, braces and no one gives

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Speaker 3: a Good holy.

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Speaker 4: Damn whether you have a football stadium named after you or.

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Speaker 3: NOT i am sorry that nobody on your team is

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Speaker 3: willing to say those, words but those are the only words.

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Speaker 4: They feel that things aren't working for.

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Speaker 3: Them you should address that you are more capable than

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Speaker 3: this and you're not doing.

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Speaker 4: It and that drives me.

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Speaker 3: NUTS i am a huge believer that the man is,

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Speaker 3: remarkably remarkably. Capable trump could do two things at. Once

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Speaker 3: And trump has the. Ability, yes it is true to

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Speaker 3: engage in empathetic. VOICE i don't think he could do

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Speaker 3: the grandfatherly thing that is not. Him but his entire

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Speaker 3: capability comes from being able to connect with Everyday.

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Speaker 4: Americans he can do.

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Speaker 3: It there he Is sunday and it's The washington game

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Speaker 3: against The, lions and The, commanders which should be The

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Speaker 3: redskins got the crap kicked out of.

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Speaker 4: Them neither here nor.

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Speaker 3: There there he is third quarter in the booth kind

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Speaker 3: of calling the game and talking and hanging out and

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Speaker 3: being a.

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Speaker 4: Guy he can do.

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Speaker 3: This will go out and do, this go out and

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Speaker 3: sell your. Story but you're. Not you're not selling the,

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Speaker 3: story and you're not paying enough attention to some things

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Speaker 3: having not come down in. Price and there's a real,

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Speaker 3: effect and this insurance thing is a real effect on.

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Speaker 4: Us all of.

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Speaker 3: Us so when you've got these numbers From, HARRYENTON i

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Speaker 3: don't buy into.

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Speaker 4: Every, Number but is there more to?

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Speaker 14: It when you're dealing with consumer sentiment of conditions being

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Speaker 14: record breaking in the wrong, ways being record breaking for

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Speaker 14: the worst ever since nineteen hundred and fifty, one and

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Speaker 14: you're dealing with the supermajority who say that your policies

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Speaker 14: have worsened economic conditions In, america and you're dealing with

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Speaker 14: the majority who say your policies have worsened the folks's own.

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Speaker 14: Finances that IS i corumba no.

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Speaker 16: Good, yeah no matter, what you would prefer to not have, This,

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Speaker 16: no you prefer not to. Kate what about the slice

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Speaker 16: of the electorate both parties need and is what decides?

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Speaker 4: Elections?

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Speaker 14: Independence, yeah, Okay and you know we oftentimes we talk about,

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Speaker 14: independence and sometimes that.

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Speaker 4: Group of voters includes folks who lean either The republican

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Speaker 4: Or democratic.

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Speaker 14: SIDE i decide to look at pure pure, independence those

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Speaker 14: who don't lean towards either, side and look at this.

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Speaker 4: Disapproof Of trump on the.

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Speaker 14: Economy among pure, independence we're talking about four in five

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Speaker 14: seventy nine percent on, laughing because you rarely ever see

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Speaker 14: a number this. High seventy nine percent of pure independence

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Speaker 14: disapproof Of trump on the.

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Speaker 4: Economy how about? This this is no. Outlier.

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Speaker 14: K this is no outlier because look At Marquette, university

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Speaker 14: they're law. School seventy six percent of pure independence disapprove

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Speaker 14: Of trump on the. Economy when you put it all

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Speaker 14: together with the approval, ratings it averages out to a

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Speaker 14: net approval rating on the economy among pure independents of

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Speaker 14: get this minus fifty eighty.

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Speaker 4: Points. Oy they, ah look at.

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Speaker 3: That he wanted me to feel at. Home what he

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Speaker 3: doesn't tell you is that these numbers can sway quickly and.

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Speaker 3: Aggressively this is not a death. Now this is not

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Speaker 3: the end of the road For. Trump as a matter of,

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Speaker 3: fact AS i said about the other, NUMBERS i don't

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Speaker 3: even buy. Them the same people who disapprove Of trump

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Speaker 3: on the economy aren't disproving Of. Trump they're disapproving of

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Speaker 3: their economic. Situation and if three things got, better they'd be, Like,

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Speaker 3: Oh trump's great from the, Economy it is indeed that.

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Speaker 4: Easy these are the.

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Speaker 3: People these are the same people who take a look

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Speaker 3: at the shutdown and, say, Well democrats are wrong here

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Speaker 3: where with The. Republicans it doesn't take much to change

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Speaker 3: things to your, side to your. Benefit Doesn't these numbers

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Speaker 3: are not. Terminal this is a year before the midterms

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Speaker 3: and there is nothing but daylight ahead of.

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Speaker 4: You SO i would not look.

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Speaker 3: At this stuff and, say my, gosh it's. OVER i

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Speaker 3: look at some of this stuff and say it's not even.

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Speaker 3: Believable some. Is And trump and the administration are not

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Speaker 3: engaged properly in this. Conversation do not tell us everything is.

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Speaker 3: Great Jenny yellen did, That Joe biden did. That the

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Speaker 3: media did, that and.

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Speaker 4: It was a.

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Speaker 3: Lie don't do, It Scott, besson don't do, It Caroline,

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Speaker 3: levitt don't do, It President. Trump And trump is better at,

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Speaker 3: this he's just not doing it enough and he's not

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Speaker 3: getting the backup he's.

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Speaker 4: Not he needs to be. More it needs to be,

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Speaker 4: Consistent it needs to be.

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00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 3: Clear it needs to be here's this, success and here's

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Speaker 3: why we're doing, it and here's where we're seeing the,

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Speaker 3: results and here's what we expect in six. Months and

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Speaker 3: here's why this. Matters and here's why this number doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Matter and here's, why, yes we agree with, you this

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Speaker 3: is too, high and this is what we're working. On oh,

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Speaker 3: wait if you've seen What i've done with drug. Prices

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Speaker 3: they had the big announcement about drug prices and everyone's

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Speaker 3: going to be able to get the fact shot they're

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Speaker 3: going to lose seventy four pounds and we didn't hear

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Speaker 3: another thing about. It that is not a messaging. Campaign

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Speaker 3: AND i don't know why they're having this comms, issue

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Speaker 3: but they did a lot of great stuff in the

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Speaker 3: first six months and they're missing the boat here and

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Speaker 3: they don't have.

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Speaker 4: To so is the economy in a great? Place? No

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Speaker 4: are some things? Better? Yes is the messaging good coming

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Speaker 4: out of The White? House? No it is. Crap does

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Speaker 4: it have to?

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Speaker 14: Be?

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Speaker 4: No is it too? Late absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Not not a single number That Harry enton is giving.

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Speaker 3: Here while these are the, numbers not a single one is.

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Speaker 3: Terminal that is where you got to work. FROM i

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Speaker 3: just hope that The trump administration will do the.

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Speaker 4: Work this Is Tony Katz.

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Speaker 17: Today today we remember with overwhelming gratitude the more than

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Speaker 17: one Million american service members who have made the supreme

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Speaker 17: sacrifice that laid down their lives for the good OLD.

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Speaker 17: Usa generation after Generation americas warriors have left behind the

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Speaker 17: comforts of home and, family to face, violence evil and

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Speaker 17: death so that our families could no joy goodness and.

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Speaker 4: Peace we honor them so. Strongly our heroes.

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Speaker 17: Have lived through unthinkable nightmares so we could live The american.

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Speaker 17: Dream and The american dream is coming back, again strong

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Speaker 17: than ever. Before and you'll see that as the next

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Speaker 17: few years, evolved they have volunteered to give their last

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Speaker 17: breast to all of us so that.

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Speaker 4: We could breathe.

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Speaker 18: Free and today we know without any doubt in our

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Speaker 18: hearts that after two and a half, Centuries americas stands

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Speaker 18: tall Because america's veterans stood so.

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Speaker 3: Strong President trump speaking on This Veterans, day of, course

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Speaker 3: Originally Armistice. Day Tony, Katz Tony katz, today good to

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Speaker 3: be with. You find everything over At Tony katz dot.

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Speaker 3: Com then you, have of, course as we've been talking

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Speaker 3: about the, shutdown this was the view Where Sonny houston

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Speaker 3: is trying to pick a, fight Was Senator John.

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Speaker 4: Fetterman but was a horrific.

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Speaker 19: Mistake Governor Gavin newsom called it puts that out and

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Speaker 19: a surrender. Pole after poll found More americans on both

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Speaker 19: sides of the aisle Blaming republicans Even Marjorie Taylor green

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Speaker 19: blamed THE. Gop as you, Mentioned democrats have big wins last,

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Speaker 19: week so you had. Momentum why give in? Now why

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Speaker 19: bring a butter knife to a? Gunfight are you willing.

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Speaker 10: To gamble that THE dlp will negotiate on healthcare in

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Speaker 10: good faith once the government, Reopens because if that gamble is,

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Speaker 10: wrong half a Million pennsylvanians that you, represent their healthcare

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Speaker 10: cost will skyrocket if you are, wrong AND i believe

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Speaker 10: you are.

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Speaker 3: Wrong now before, anything you may Find sunny Host in

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Speaker 3: to be just, grading you'd be. Accurate BUT i believe

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Speaker 3: that you are allowed to ask your elected official any.

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Speaker 3: Question you're allowed to be tough on your elected, official

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Speaker 3: or any elected. Official it's. Okay if they can't handle,

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Speaker 3: it tell them to.

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Speaker 4: Get a job at dairy. Queen SO i do not

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Speaker 4: mind the tenor of the.

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Speaker 3: QUESTION i do mind that she first of all brought

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Speaker 3: up gunfight so, violent and, secondly she is okay with

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Speaker 3: children starving so a failed healthcare system can keep. Going

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Speaker 3: they told us That trump was starving. Kids so if

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Speaker 3: you want the shutdown to keep, going you want to starve.

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Speaker 3: Children it's just that. Easy it's their Words Senator.

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Speaker 20: Fetterman, well for first of, all you KNOW mtg is

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Speaker 20: quite literally the last person In america That i'm going

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Speaker 20: to take advice or to get their kinds of my

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Speaker 20: leadership and values. From and, now If democrats are celebrating

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Speaker 20: crazy pants like, that then that's on. Them AND i

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Speaker 20: don't need AND i don't need a. LECTURE i don't

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Speaker 20: need a lecture from from whether It's bernie or the

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Speaker 20: governor In, california because they are representing very deep blue

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Speaker 20: blue kinds of populations and a lot of those, things

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Speaker 20: a lot of those things were part of the. Extreme

869
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Speaker 20: And i'll remember what really needs to, win to win

870
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 20: the big win is involving my state and other states

871
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 20: in those. Things and why have we arrived here after

872
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 20: the election a year? Ago we want to forget we

873
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 20: got to forget some of the things that cost us that.

874
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 20: Election or now for, me it's like that's Why i'm

875
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 20: trying to remind people that kind.

876
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 4: Of every time you hear, him he sounds like a

877
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 4: guy you want to hear. From.

878
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 3: Now he's not a, conservative but he certainly understands what's,

879
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 3: happening and that won't be tolerated by the sunny host

880
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 3: In Progressive. Life this Is Tony katz, Today President trump

881
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 3: looking to The Supreme court, saying, hey this.

882
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 4: Situation with The Egene, carroll why don't you toss that?

883
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 4: Verdict won't? You Tony? Katz Tony katz, Today great to

884
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 4: be with.

885
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: You Eging, carroll the Writer President trump was held liable

886
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 3: for sexually abusing her in the mid. Nineties this was

887
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 3: a civil, verdict not. Criminal if you ask, ME i

888
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 3: think it was a bit of. Nonsense and WHEN i

889
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 3: say a, BIT i mean a lot of bits of.

890
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 3: Nonsense she won eighty eight million dollars in. Damages he

891
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 3: has turned to The Supreme court calls the claims facially

892
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 3: implausible politically motivated. Allegations so what he is looking is

893
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 3: for a reversal of evidentiary rulings that would then eliminate

894
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 3: any claim that she's actually. Making and the petition reads

895
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 3: That Eging carroll quote waited more than twenty years to

896
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 3: falsely Accused Donald, trump who she politically until after he

897
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 3: became the forty fifth, president which he can maximize with

898
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 3: a political injury to him and profit for. Herself SO

899
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 3: i don't know if The Supreme court is interested in getting.

900
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 3: INVOLVED i don't know if they, will but there is

901
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: something to be said.

902
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 4: For when the allegation broke. Open there's also something to

903
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 4: be said for what do you do with.

904
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 3: People who are so open about their hatred for the

905
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 3: person that they're going. After we've also opened the door

906
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 3: up to everybody engaging a defamation suit against everyone everywhere

907
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 3: all the. TIME i, Mean i'm surprised that courts have

908
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 3: the ability to function with all the defamation lawsuits that

909
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 3: go on out.

910
00:55:55,160 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 4: There DO i think That Egene carroll is a good? Actor? Me,

911
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 4: NO i don't believe that she. Is that's my.

912
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 3: Take then we've got everybody's. Favorite my, gosh what in

913
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 3: the world is she saying? Now and that Is Kamala.

914
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 4: Harris, okay thank you very.

915
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 3: Much today she is being, well very Very Kamala.

916
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 4: Harris, like.

917
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 8: We have so many stars in our.

918
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 21: Party there are so many, stars and let's not be

919
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 21: afraid of. Them you, know you talk about, Mom. DONNIE i,

920
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 21: mean he's exciting this group of people who otherwise don't

921
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 21: think of themselves as being aligned or a part or

922
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 21: even seen by the. System you just look at the

923
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 21: range of what we, have so Many Asthmin, crockett WHO

924
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 21: i just talked to you. RECENTLY i, mean we have

925
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 21: so many stars.

926
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: Stars Kamala harris believes that The Democratic party is filled with.

927
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 21: Stars we have so many stars in our. Party there

928
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 21: are so many.

929
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 3: Stars it's exactly the Line Kamala harris says after she

930
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 3: looks up at the sky after a night Of lord

931
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 3: only knows what was being. Drunk, hey look at all the.

932
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 3: Stars we have so many. Stars tell me you didn't

933
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 3: say this After. Homecoming we have so many stars in our.

934
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 3: Party there are so many. Stars that's actually a quote

935
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 3: of me after my Third Grateful dead.

936
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 4: Show it's it. Is it is.

937
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 3: Unbelievable and someone's going to tell me that she is

938
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 3: legitimate as a candidate for president? Again could we? Stop

939
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 3: could we please please?

940
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 4: Stop.

941
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 3: NO i think the story today is About Ken, burns

942
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 3: the documentarian, filmmaker and he has done some beautiful. Work

943
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 3: i'll leave it to others for the sake of this

944
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 3: conversation about.

945
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 4: Whether or not all of his work has been historically.

946
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 4: Sound but the work done in.

947
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 3: Bringing back to life old, photos old, clippings old any

948
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 3: any level of film impressive and. Worthwhile AND i do

949
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 3: to a great level appreciate such. Things but, this this

950
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 3: is a defense that Ken burns is making With John,

951
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 3: avalon who is a noted, trumpeter ABOUT npr AND, pbs

952
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 3: The corporation For Public, broadcasting and he engages here a. Lie,

953
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 3: now it was The bulwark that first put this, out

954
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 3: that first brought this to my. Attention and the bulwark

955
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 3: are people who claim to still be conservatives when what

956
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 3: they are is Never trump and Never trump is the

957
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 3: most non conservative position there possibly could. Be never, Communist,

958
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 3: yes Never. Trump, well what if he's running against? Communists

959
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,479
Speaker 3: what if he's running against Silly, clinton what he's running

960
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 3: Against Joe, Binder Kamala? Harris still Never. Trump, no these

961
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 3: people are purposefully foolish and have embarrassed.

962
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 4: THEMSELVES i think. Greatly but they put this out there

963
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 4: as if it is a very important statement that was

964
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 4: made by.

965
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 3: Ken, burns as if it was a truthful statement made

966
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 3: by Ken, Burns and it was not, important and it

967
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 3: was not.

968
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 4: Truthful this is what Ken burns had to. Say it's

969
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 4: a big.

970
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 15: Deal they killed The corporation For Public. Broadcasting incredibly short.

971
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 15: Sighted it'll hurt mostly rural. Communities maybe that's their. Intention

972
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 15: they'll be news. Deserts nobody will be covering the school

973
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 15: board or the city council. Meeting they'll miss not only

974
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 15: the children's in primetime, programming but they'll miss you homeland security,

975
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 15: stuff continuing, education, classrooms of the air warning stuff that

976
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 15: comes from THE.

977
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 4: Pbs Se, no they won't because they have.

978
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 3: PHONES i have no idea What Ken burns is saying

979
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 3: here EXCEPT i know what he's saying, here AND i

980
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 3: don't think most people picked it. Up those people on

981
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 3: the coast didn't quite pick up what was being. Said

982
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 3: there is no news desert that exists right now in

983
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 3: The United states Of. America if you have a, signal

984
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 3: if you have, broadband you have news and no public,

985
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 3: anything whether IT'S NBR, pbs has ever filled that. Void,

986
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 3: WELL i wasn't able to get anything from my broadcast

987
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 3: station or from my radio. Stations thank, GOODNESS nbr AND

988
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 3: pbs were, there said no one, ever except people who

989
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 3: think THAT nbr AND pbs should continue to get some

990
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 3: level of. Funding let's go back and listen again and

991
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 3: see if you can catch what it is That i'm.

992
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 4: Hearing it's a big.

993
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 15: Deal they killed the corporation for public broadcasting incredibly short.

994
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 15: Sighted it'll hurt mostly rural. Communities maybe that's their. Intention

995
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 15: they'll be news. Deserts nobody will be covering the school

996
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 15: board or the city council. Meeting they'll miss not only

997
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 15: the children's and primetime, programming but they'll miss homeland security,

998
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 15: stuff continuing, education, classrooms of the air warning stuff that

999
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 15: comes FROM thes signal mostly.

1000
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:07,919
Speaker 3: Rural why would mostly rural be affected BY pbs not being?

1001
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 16: There?

1002
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 3: Oh, oh because here in The midwest were.

1003
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 4: RUBES i got.

1004
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 3: It that isn't what you. Meant, well then why don't

1005
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 3: we answer the question of what do you mean by?

1006
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 4: Rural you mean all those, farmers.

1007
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 3: Those farmers who can understand the pH levels of soil

1008
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 3: to figure out when they should be planting and how

1009
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 3: they should be rotating. Crops how they're able to engage

1010
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 3: all of those lease, deals in all of those contracts

1011
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 3: for major, equipment and how to manage that, equipment never

1012
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 3: mind care for that. Equipment all of a, sudden when

1013
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 3: it comes to, news they look at THEIR tv and

1014
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 3: they just hit it with the rock and, say why

1015
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 3: WON'T tv turned? On is this your, Argument Ken, burns

1016
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 3: you elitist, snobs son of A you know, what.

1017
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 4: They can't get news WITHOUT.

1018
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 3: Pbs you think they sit around the radio at night

1019
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 3: and light their candles because they're not smart enough to have.

1020
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 3: Electricity golly jeepers know and they listen TO npr and,

1021
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,439
Speaker 3: say thank, goodness they're here to save us and give

1022
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 3: us all the information they decided was.

1023
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 4: Acceptable thank.

1024
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 3: Goodness the SAME npr that said they wouldn't report on

1025
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 3: Hunter byden's laptop because we don't report on things like.

1026
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 3: That if there were people in The midwest only getting

1027
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 3: their news FROM, npr we would have a name for

1028
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 3: those people in The. Midwest we would call them. Schmucks

1029
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 3: what a gross thing to, say Ken. Burns it is

1030
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 3: clear with the argument that he's making these people don't

1031
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 3: have access to. News they've never been On Sixth avenue

1032
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 3: In New. York by the, way it's Sixth, avenue Not

1033
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 3: avenue of The. Americas enough with that. Crap already we've been,

1034
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:09,439
Speaker 3: hit but we'll.

1035
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 15: Recover i'm worried about somebody who's coming up right now

1036
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 15: that has a lot of. Talent it's not going to

1037
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 15: get a grant to do. That The american experience has

1038
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 15: been put consciously on hiatus for a.

1039
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 4: While it will be.

1040
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 15: Revitalized it's got an incredible back catalog that can help

1041
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 15: remind us about what it. Is it's not all doom and.

1042
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 15: GLOOM pbs has not been. Cut it will take a.

1043
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 15: Hit it's had to lay off lots of people at

1044
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 15: the national level as a kind of protective measure to

1045
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 15: try to get leaner as we.

1046
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 3: Face IF pbs is, WORTHY pbs will get sponsors or

1047
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 3: they'll get. Supporters let them, Compete LET npr. Compete but,

1048
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 3: no these organizations are not. Necessary these organizations that get

1049
01:04:55,880 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 3: public funding and then don't actually report, news who have

1050
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 3: an ideological. Basis, no because if there's government funding for

1051
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 3: people in radio to get HI i don't get any government.

1052
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 4: FUNDING i have. Sponsors you can get a.

1053
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 3: Sponsor go get a, sponsor and maybe the sponsor is

1054
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 3: some state, program and maybe the sponsor is some local dry.

1055
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 4: CLEANER i don't.

1056
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 3: Know but the idea that people in The, midwest in

1057
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 3: Rural america are gonna have news deserts. Now you don't

1058
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 3: think they have a. Phone are they still doing math

1059
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 3: utilizing their? Abacus when they start their, car do they

1060
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 3: turn the key or do they crank it up like

1061
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:50,439
Speaker 3: it's the old victrola and oh are they sophisticated enough

1062
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 3: to have the old?

1063
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 4: Victrola good.

1064
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 3: GOSH i do not know if other people caught, that

1065
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 3: but that was the first thing that hit. Me how,

1066
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 3: glad how absolutely hateful an.

1067
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 4: Elitist this is.

1068
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 3: Bless your, heart, There Ken, burns bless your. Heart I'm

1069
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 3: tony katz.

1070
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 4: In me for making the.

1071
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 22: Decision would be the first one to criticize me for

1072
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 22: not taking action and not looking at. Data so, Again

1073
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 22: i'm trying to do what's right by way of The

1074
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 22: american people and keep people. Safe and just to make

1075
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 22: one last data point on, that BECAUSE i get passionate

1076
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 22: when you asked me about the data and what other

1077
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 22: people might say about it is we were at four.

1078
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 22: Percent we reduced capacity by four percent as of Last.

1079
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 22: Saturday we saw the cancelations above four, percent, Right SO

1080
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 22: i DIDN'T i didn't go higher than what the cancelations.

1081
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 22: WERE i was actually below the. Cancelations the cancelations were

1082
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 22: even worse than WHAT i had put into the.

1083
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 3: System Sexuary Sean, Duffy Sexu chary Of, transportation speaking in

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Speaker 3: was con about for anyone to the flight delays and

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Speaker 3: the government. Shutdown I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony kats.

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Speaker 3: Today let's take it back on The Secretary.

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Speaker 22: Duffy and through this crisis hopefully get the government opened

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01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 22: and hopefully get controllers back in towers and getting In

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Speaker 22: america back in the skies and plans. Safely so with, that,

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Speaker 22: listen thank you guys for coming. OUT i appreciate. It

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Speaker 22: and by the, way do we have a great? Airport

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Speaker 22: this airport is. Fantastic people who come through, here it's

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Speaker 22: like it's so easy to get in and out of the.

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Speaker 22: Airport not only, that like you can get cheese curds,

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Speaker 22: inside which is. Great and then they, say everyone's.

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Speaker 3: Son, Right, listen we're gon be all Pro. WISCONSIN i

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Speaker 3: think that's. Adorable but isn't WHAT i came, for, Sir

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Speaker 3: you be Pro. Wisconsin cheese cards and broughts are. Fantastic

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Speaker 3: what isn't fantastic is where we are with. This we're

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Speaker 3: in a bad spot with time not on our. Side

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Speaker 3: if we're talking about gearing up For, THANKSGIVING i don't

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Speaker 3: think it helps.

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Speaker 4: To threaten the air traffic.

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01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 3: Controllers President trump was saying he's gonna doct the pay

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Speaker 3: of abbsent air traffic, controllers all air traffic controllers wants.

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Speaker 4: To get back to work. Now anyone who does it

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Speaker 4: will be substantially.

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01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 3: Docked he then said he would give air traffic controllers

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01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,839
Speaker 3: who stayed on the job a ten thousand dollars. Bonus

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01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 3: and then he was on With Lord ingram On fox

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Speaker 3: last night and she said where you're gonna get the money?

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Speaker 4: From and he, SAID i don't. Know i'll get it

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01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 4: from some. Place the man is a the man is a.

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Speaker 3: TREAT i do not want to tell the people who

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01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 3: stepped off the job BECAUSE i.

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01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 4: Don't know they needed the.

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Speaker 3: Money don't scream at, them don't yell at. THEM i,

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01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 3: think just like in the economic, conversation how about being there, beforehand, saying,

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Speaker 3: hey we need you. HERE i know this shutdown. STINKS

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Speaker 3: i know what democrats are. DOING i think it's. DISGUSTING

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01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 3: i think it's. EVIL i think it's. Awful we need

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Speaker 3: you right here doing this. Work quite, literally he's saving,

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01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 3: lives Making america. Work we need, you we appreciate. YOU

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Speaker 3: i don't think they would have been seen as. WEAKNESS

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Speaker 3: i think that would have been leadership and. Valuable i'm

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Speaker 3: gonna duck the people who, left And i'm going to

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Speaker 3: give bonuses to.

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Speaker 4: OTHERS i think.

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Speaker 3: That is a recipe for having some air traffic controllers, saying,

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Speaker 3: well screw this and screw.

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Speaker 4: You i'm, gone.

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01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:30,879
Speaker 3: Goodbye let's not make it. Tougher don't make it. Tougher

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01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 3: what happens if they don't get the government set up

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Speaker 3: and back up and Running friday and it takes Till?

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Speaker 3: Monday do air traffic controllers get back in the saddle

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Speaker 3: and everything's working again By?

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Speaker 4: Thanksgiving this is no one's answering that. QUESTION i have

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Speaker 4: got serious questions about whether that can.

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Speaker 1: Happen this Is Tony katz, today line from Vall hartbeyer

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Speaker 1: and The crossroads Of. America It's Tony katz. Today you,

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Speaker 1: know it's, very.

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Speaker 3: Very possible that no one even understands what a subsidy.

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01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 3: Is all this talk and all this fight and a

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Speaker 3: government shutdown Over obamacare, subsidies do we actually know what it?

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01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 3: Means are we talking about actual? Cash we're talking about

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01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 3: a tax. Credit what's the difference? Here does it actually

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Speaker 3: Make obamacare? Work or is the fundamental problem That obamacare

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01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 3: doesn't work and all we're doing is kicking a problem

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Speaker 3: down the.

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Speaker 4: Road and what is the.

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Speaker 3: Problem is the problem that we don't treat healthcare like

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Speaker 3: we do other places in the, market or is the

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01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 3: problem that we don't recognize that healthcare is special in

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Speaker 3: and of it to, itself in and of itself into.

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Speaker 3: ITSELF i don't even know how you would say the.

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Speaker 3: Words you Think i'd be better at talking being on

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Speaker 3: radio and All Tony, Kats Tony kats, today good to

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Speaker 3: be with. You let me bring in Ovik. Roy Ovik

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Speaker 3: roy is the man behind Freeop this is The foundation

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Speaker 3: For research And Equal. Opportunity he serves as the chairman

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Speaker 3: there and. President his, background his history is not only

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Speaker 3: as a, scientist it's training AT, mit but then As

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01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 3: obamacare came to, be and that's WHERE i Met ovic

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Speaker 3: all these years. Ago is really about healthcare, policy about

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Speaker 3: what it is in the very very, detailed granual, level

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Speaker 3: granular level that.

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Speaker 4: We're dealing with.

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Speaker 3: Here so good to see, you, Man always a pleasure

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01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,799
Speaker 3: to have a chance to talk to. You let's start

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Speaker 3: WITH i guess a. Baseline when The democrats are screaming

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Speaker 3: about subsidies For, obamacare what is it that they're actually talking?

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Speaker 23: About they're talking about an extra bonus enhanced set of

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01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 23: subsidies that they passed DURING. Covid initially was supposed to

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01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 23: be a two year emergency, measure THEN i got extended

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01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 23: for another two. Years and because of that extra two year,

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Speaker 23: extension it's set to expire at the end of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 23: five and they wanted to extend further as they always, do,

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Speaker 23: right and there's there's what is it That reagan said

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Speaker 23: the quickest way to uh everlasting life is to be

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Speaker 23: a government Bureau so, right.

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Speaker 3: So they so we talk about how they want this

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Speaker 3: these dollars to. Extend you know it Was reagan also,

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01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 3: said you, Know i'm from the. Government i'm here to

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Speaker 3: help the most dangerous words in The english.

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Speaker 4: Language this is.

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Speaker 3: Weird to, people these subsidies Because obamacare was supposed to

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Speaker 3: be it is The Affordable Care, act it's THE. Aca

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01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 3: it's supposed to be much more. Affordable it's supposed to

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Speaker 3: make it easier for people to get health. Care and

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Speaker 3: clearly that didn't. Work so was this a lie from

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Speaker 3: the beginning or was this one of those things that

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Speaker 3: the pathway To hell's paid with good?

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Speaker 4: Intentions CAN i say? Both? Oh?

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Speaker 23: Okay because the lie was was That obamacare did make

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Speaker 23: the underlying cost of buying health insurance on your own

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Speaker 23: much more. Expensive, so just to rewind a little, bit

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Speaker 23: we subsidize healthcare health insurance for almost everybody In. America

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Speaker 23: if you're over sixty, five you get subsidized health insurance Through.

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Speaker 23: Medicare if you're super poor or, disabled you get subsidized

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Speaker 23: health insurance Through. Medicaid if you get insurance through your,

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01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 23: job there's a massive tax subsidy for employer sponsored health

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Speaker 23: insurance where literally like if that if your employer gives

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01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 23: you one hundred bucks in, wages you pay income taxes on,

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Speaker 23: it you Pay Social, Security medicare taxes on, it stay

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Speaker 23: and local income tax on. It but if that same

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Speaker 23: employer gives you one hundred bucks in health, insurance you

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Speaker 23: pay no taxes on. It so there's a tax subsidy

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Speaker 23: for employer based. Insurance so there was a gap in

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Speaker 23: the market Pre obamacare where if you didn't get health

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Speaker 23: insurance through your, employer you weren't poor enough to qualify For,

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Speaker 23: medicaid and you weren't old enough to qualify For, medicare

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Speaker 23: you were like the only group left basically working people

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Speaker 23: who are like freelancers or other types of people who

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Speaker 23: didn't get insurns through their, employer who didn't have a

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Speaker 23: subsidy for health. Insurance so Both republicans And democrats in

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Speaker 23: different ways have proposed evening out that discrepancy and, saying

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Speaker 23: let's balance out the help we give to the working

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Speaker 23: poor in the middle class versus what we give to

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01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 23: hire and come people through employers sponsored, insurance where we

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Speaker 23: give to the elderly what we give to the. Poor

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Speaker 23: so that part is. Okay the part That obamacare really

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Speaker 23: screwed up is it heavily regulated the kind of insurance

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Speaker 23: you could offer to people who didn't get it through their,

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Speaker 23: employer and that individually purchased or non group health insurance

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Speaker 23: is What obamacare has made super expensive and what made

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Speaker 23: the subsidies much more. Necessary because if you're going to

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Speaker 23: triple or quadruple the premiums that people have to, pay

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Speaker 23: then a lot of people aren't going to be able

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Speaker 23: to afford.

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Speaker 3: It so we can say That obamacare did not make

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Speaker 3: health care.

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Speaker 23: Cheaper, oh it definitely didn't make healthcare. Cheaper, now the

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Speaker 23: way supporters Of obamacare describe it is they made it

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Speaker 23: affordable by subsidizing. It, right so if if you're if your,

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01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 23: premium your monthly premium went from two hundred bucks a

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Speaker 23: month to one thousand bucks a, month but the government

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Speaker 23: is covering the, difference or more than you, know even

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Speaker 23: more of the difference that your net you, know premium

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Speaker 23: net of the taxpayer subsidies is one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 23: dollars a month instead of two. Hundred maybe for, you you,

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Speaker 23: know your health insurance is quote unquote a little bit more.

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Speaker 23: Affordable maybe maybe not because deductibles and copays of also

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Speaker 23: skyrocket Under. Obamacare but all this to say that, actually

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Speaker 23: if you look at the underlying, premium the underlying cost

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Speaker 23: of the, insurance it's exploded in. Cost and that's Why

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01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 23: democrats want to perpetuate these enhanced subsidies because people like

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Speaker 23: me fifteen years, ago as you, Know, tony because we

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Speaker 23: talked about it on your show fifteen years, ago you,

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01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 23: know we were saying, like, look this is going to

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Speaker 23: drive up the underlying cost of, insurance and these subsidies

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Speaker 23: At Obama care has appropriated for that purpose aren't going

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Speaker 23: to be enough to cover the higher underlying. Cost and sure,

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Speaker 23: enough here we, are you, know fifteen years, later and

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Speaker 23: The democrats are, saying let's paper over the fact That

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Speaker 23: obamacare is too expensive and, effectively let's bail it out

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Speaker 23: by adding on these additional. Subsidies and so the thing

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Speaker 23: That i've proposed a lot Of, republicans a lot of

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Speaker 23: conservatives saying they're seeing What i've just described to, you

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01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 23: and they're, saying screw, that let's just end the. Subsidies

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Speaker 23: why should we perpetuate these subsidies to bail out a

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Speaker 23: program that we set all along was going to be. Unaffordable,

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Speaker 23: Okay so that's the Baseline republican or conservative point of,

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Speaker 23: view WHICH i sympathize, with But i'm arguing for a

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01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 23: somewhat different. Strategy What i'm arguing is that the only

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Speaker 23: way to Deregulate, obamacare or to reform the regulations In

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Speaker 23: obamacare that have made the health insurance On obamacare so,

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Speaker 23: expensive is you have to pass a law that can

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Speaker 23: get sixty. Votes in this you have to be able

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Speaker 23: to overcome a filibuster to Deregulate. Obombacare as we learned

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Speaker 23: in twenty, seventeen When republicans try to repeal and Replace,

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01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 23: obamacare they could only defund it using the reconciliation, process

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Speaker 23: but they couldn't deregulate. It the regulations under Current senate

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Speaker 23: rules require you to get sixty votes in The, senate not.

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Speaker 23: Fifty and so What i'm proposing is give The democrats

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Speaker 23: a short term extension that phases out the subsidies in

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Speaker 23: one or two years in exchange for permanent deregulation of the,

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Speaker 23: exchanges so the underlying premiums can go back, down because

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Speaker 23: if we just let the subsidies, expire we haven't really

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01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 23: solved the. Problem the underlying costing insurance is still expensive

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Speaker 23: because the regulations are still in.

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Speaker 4: Place so the.

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Speaker 23: Problem we really need to solve if we want health

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Speaker 23: insurance to be affordable for people is how to Deregulate,

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Speaker 23: obamacare and for that we're going to need Some democratic.

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Speaker 3: Votes talking To obcroy of A free up froopp dot,

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Speaker 3: org The foundation For research On Equal, opportunity where he

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Speaker 3: is the, founder a co, founder and a, chairman this

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Speaker 3: brings us to this idea of can you make healthcare?

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Speaker 4: AFFORDABLE i have made.

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Speaker 3: A rudimentary argument that it seems odd to me and

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Speaker 3: unnecessary to, me and MAYBE i could go so far

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01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 3: say dangerous to me that we treat healthcare differently than

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Speaker 3: we treat the. Mechanic we treat our doctor different than the.

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Speaker 3: Mechanic we have a problem with our, breaks we go

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Speaker 3: to the, mechanic we pay for new, breaks we get new.

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Speaker 4: Breaks we have a problem with our, hip we go

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Speaker 4: to the.

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Speaker 3: Doctor and the next thing you, know there's twenty seven

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Speaker 3: levels in between me and the, doctor where IF i

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Speaker 3: don't have, insurance the tilin all costs me ninety two thousand,

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Speaker 3: dollars and IF i have, insurance it costs me seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Cents there's a fundamental issue here in how we address

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Speaker 3: this as a marketplace to begin. With so this is

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Speaker 3: WHERE i find myself constantly saying we're doing that's.

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Speaker 4: Wrong so let me start with.

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Speaker 3: A basic question to, you do we have the capacity

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Speaker 3: in The United states to make health care?

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Speaker 23: Affordable, boy there's a lot of different ways to answer that.

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Speaker 4: Question i'll put it this. WAY i got nothing but

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Speaker 4: time and go for them.

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Speaker 23: All if you were to put me in front of

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Speaker 23: a blackboard and, say how would you redesign the healthcare

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01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 23: system In america so that it were, affordable, competitive, innovative

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Speaker 23: and had a lot of, choice and you, know didn't

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Speaker 23: cost the government nearly as much as it. Did NOW

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Speaker 23: i could design that. System in, fact At Free, up

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Speaker 23: we've put forward a plan that's been introduced In congress

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Speaker 23: as The Fair Care, act sponsored in both The house

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01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 23: and The. Senate in, fact two members of The Indiana

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Speaker 23: congressional delegation have been heavily involved in A Jim banks

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Speaker 23: back when he was A house, member and then your

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Speaker 23: Current Governor Mike, brawn who's obviously now who's the, governor

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Speaker 23: but was a senator until reasons he was the. Interest

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Speaker 23: he was the one who introduced it in The, senate

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Speaker 23: And Jim banks when he was in The, house he

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Speaker 23: introduced it. There so we've put forward a plan and

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Speaker 23: you can talk to them about it next time you

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Speaker 23: have them on that would actually solve this. Problem that

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Speaker 23: would in a very politically gradual, way because you can't

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Speaker 23: disrupt health insurance and healthcare for, people migrate us more

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01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 23: into a system that's fiscally, sustainable that actually cuts, taxes

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Speaker 23: reduced to spending by trillions of dollars over a multi decade,

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01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 23: period solves the entitlement, problem and actually preserves the things

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Speaker 23: about the healthcare system that we actually like the innovation

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Speaker 23: and the choice where we have, it so it's possible to.

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Speaker 23: Do the challenge is that Particularly republicans our risk averse

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01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 23: when it comes to. Healthcare their experience of twenty seventeen scarred.

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Speaker 23: Them Most republicans In congress believe they lost their majorities

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Speaker 23: In congress because of this repeal and replaced battle in,

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Speaker 23: seventeen and so a lot of them just don't want

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Speaker 23: to touch. It they don't want to be bothered by,

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Speaker 23: healthcare they don't want to think about. It and the problem.

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Speaker 3: Without it is later and two terms Of, trump and

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Speaker 3: you're saying that that's still the scar for when they

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Speaker 3: fell off their tricycle at the age of, four is

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Speaker 3: still haunting.

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Speaker 23: Them, Unfortunately, yes and the challenges healthcare gets more and

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Speaker 23: more expensive every year because we aren't fixing. It and

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Speaker 23: not only, that healthcare spending is the biggest driver of

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Speaker 23: the federal, deficit and so every year the deficit and

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Speaker 23: the debt get bigger because we haven't fixed. Healthcare so

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Speaker 23: these problems are coming to a. Head The Medicare Trust

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Speaker 23: fund is going, BROKEN i believe twenty thirty three or

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Speaker 23: twenty thirty, two which isn't that far far, away that's

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Speaker 23: seven years. Away and you, Know Paul ryan tried to

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01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 23: fix all this stuff in twenty. Twelve he proposed that

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Speaker 23: big plan that if we had passed then would.

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Speaker 4: Have made a big.

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Speaker 23: Difference but here we are, now it's twenty twenty, five

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01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 23: and we're rapidly approaching that fiscal clip and it's going

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Speaker 23: to be pretty scary when we.

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Speaker 3: Do talking To Ovik roy of freeop fr oppfreeop dot,

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Speaker 3: org this is The foundation For research On Equal opportunity

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Speaker 3: where he is the co founder and, chairman and rarely

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Speaker 3: do you hear people singing the praises these days Of Paul.

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Speaker 4: RYAN i, mean you got to take that hit where

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Speaker 4: you got to take That.

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Speaker 23: Yeah he's an unfashionable name to, drop BUT i think

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Speaker 23: people are going to regret not listening to him About

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Speaker 23: medicare reform in.

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Speaker 4: Particular it is in twenty.

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Speaker 3: Twelve but as if you could argue that The democrats

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Speaker 3: at any success in this, shutdown WHICH i think there's

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Speaker 3: very little they could point, to it's that people are

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Speaker 3: now asking this question about subsidies and that can easily

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Speaker 3: be a backfire to them where people could, say, well

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Speaker 3: we don't Want obamacare at, all and we're sick and

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Speaker 3: tired of paying for people who aren't paying for their own.

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Speaker 4: Insurance you're making a secondary.

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Speaker 3: Argument you're, saying, wait, wait, wait we need to deal

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Speaker 3: with an underlying issue That obamacare is not just the

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Speaker 3: money issue That obamacare.

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Speaker 4: Is and that's where you talk about engaging a.

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Speaker 3: Deregulation BUT i think the thing that always comes back, is,

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Speaker 3: well what is your? Plan you talked about what you

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Speaker 3: had with Now Senator Jim banks and Now Governor Mike,

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01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 3: brown who were a congressman a center, respectively when you

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01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 3: were pushing this. Forward does it lead to government being

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Speaker 3: involved in? Healthcare is the only way to have? Healthcare good,

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01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 3: healthcare worthy, healthcare valuable, healthcare affordable? Healthcare is government involvement

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Speaker 3: or can the market handle?

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Speaker 23: This the market can handle. It in, fact the market

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01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 23: can handle a lot more than it. Does there are

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Speaker 23: a couple things that you have to account for if

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Speaker 23: you want to have a system that is maximally light

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Speaker 23: on government and heavy on the private sector competing for your.

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Speaker 4: Business and the.

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Speaker 23: First thing is that there's a tendency towards regional monopolies and.

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Speaker 23: Healthcare so in a lot of parts of the country

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Speaker 23: and In indianapolist you're fortunate this isn't as much of.

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Speaker 4: A problem In.

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Speaker 23: Indianapolis but in a lot of regions of the, country

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Speaker 23: there's one hospital system that basically owns the state or

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Speaker 23: owns the metropolitan.

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Speaker 4: Region so there's no.

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Speaker 23: Competition if you, know if you tear your knee or

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01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 23: you have a stroke and you need to go to the,

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01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 23: hospital there's no one to bargain with because there's one

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01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 23: regional monopoly that basically owns the entire, state and so

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Speaker 23: they can charge whatever they want in a quote unquote

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Speaker 23: not in really a market, system but in a private.

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Speaker 23: System it's no different than a government. Monopoly it's just

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Speaker 23: a private, monopoly, Right so that's not. Great and the

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Speaker 23: other thing is you do have, legitimately you, know people

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Speaker 23: who are too poor to for health, insurance or people

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Speaker 23: who because of a health, condition let's say somebody has

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Speaker 23: a genetic disease or they're disabled or something like, that

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Speaker 23: where the cost of caring for them is way greater

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Speaker 23: than what they can. Afford you're going to need some

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Speaker 23: sort of way of helping those people who otherwise can't

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Speaker 23: help them. Themselves but having said, that you can look

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Speaker 23: around the world and there are plenty of countries that

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Speaker 23: do it way better than. Us ONE i like to

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Speaker 23: talk about a lot that we talk about it freeup Is.

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Speaker 23: Switzerland switzerland has universal health. Insurance it's all. Private there's

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Speaker 23: no government health. Insurance. People all the insurance compete for your.

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Speaker 23: Business they subsidize it for people at the bottom end

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Speaker 23: of the spectrum, economically but everyone else is to shop

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Speaker 23: for their own health insurance and it works, really really.

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Speaker 23: Well they have access to any doctor they. WANT a

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01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 23: lot of the pharmaceutical and botech companies are headquartered there

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Speaker 23: because it's such an innovative. Ecosystem they have low taxes

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01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:37,640
Speaker 23: that works pretty, well AND i think we have a

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Speaker 23: lot to learn From. Switzerland if you want to look

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Speaker 23: at a system that could be a model For american healthcare.

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Speaker 3: REFORM ovi groy freeop frooppfreeop dot.

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Speaker 4: Org go check them out for.

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Speaker 3: YOURSELF i Appreciate oovic taking the time to be with

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Speaker 3: us much more to get To I'm Tony, katz and

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Speaker 3: this Is Tony katz. TODAY i think we're all clear

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Speaker 3: by now That Gavin newsom is running for president of

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Speaker 3: The United. States Tony Katz Tony katz. Today great to

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01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:10,720
Speaker 3: be with. You oh he's into the trolling. Online he

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01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 3: thinks Hees trump and the key to a guy like

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01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 3: him running for president is that he has no shame

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Speaker 3: all the disaster That california is and he is, like,

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Speaker 3: what of Course i'm Running trump. Bad it's just it's

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01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:31,520
Speaker 3: as if somehow the horror show doesn't. Exist the insane,

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Speaker 3: spending the deference to legal, immigrants the Letting california, burn

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Speaker 3: and then of course not Letting california.

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01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 4: Rebuild so there he. Is he is at a.

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01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:47,600
Speaker 3: Talk In, brazil and as the story, goes it was

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Speaker 3: a private plane that he took to the nation Of,

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Speaker 3: brazil and he's talking about what climate.

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Speaker 24: Change home values will start to. Decline you're seeing it

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01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 24: across the spectrum right. Now in my, included which is

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Speaker 24: one of the most blessed and cursed states as it

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Speaker 24: relates to, climate we're on the tip of the sphere

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01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 24: of climate. Change simultaneous droughts and simultaneous.

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01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 4: Floods the hots are getting a lot, hotter the dryes.

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Speaker 24: Dryer you saw one of the most devastating wildfires In

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Speaker 24: american history in the middle of winter In Los, angeles In,

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Speaker 24: january one hundred mile hour winds attached to. Fire and

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Speaker 24: as we, rebuild the number one concerned people have how

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Speaker 24: DO i get my home?

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Speaker 4: Insured and how do you.

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Speaker 24: Get a developer to develop a home that can't get

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Speaker 24: a mortgage which requires home. Insurance so from across the

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Speaker 24: spectrum from financial risk to the issue cost of, living

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Speaker 24: which is universal to global, competitiveness.

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Speaker 4: This is a no.

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Speaker 3: Brainer he took a private plane to tell people the

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Speaker 3: climate change or the reasons he couldn't put out fire

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Speaker 3: in The. Palisades climate change is the reason that reservoirs

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Speaker 3: weren't fully. Stocked climate change is the reason that they

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Speaker 3: engage a reduction in services and a reduction in. Budgeting

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01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 3: climate change is the reason That, California Southern california specifically

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01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 3: has never had good management of the. Land and anybody

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Speaker 3: who lived, there including, me, understood as you drive Mul

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Speaker 3: hollands that if somebody were to light a, match this

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Speaker 3: all goes up in flames and everybody. Dies everybody and

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Speaker 3: name this canyon and name that canyon.

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Speaker 4: Would all be.

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01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 3: Dead everybody knows, it and everybody just keeps on keeping.

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01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:45,719
Speaker 3: On he took a private plane to lecture to us

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01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:50,719
Speaker 3: about climate, change and of course now it's climate change

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01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 3: because it's responsible for. Everything if it, floods climate, change

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01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 3: if it's dry climate, change if it is climate.

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Speaker 4: Change it's why they changed.

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01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 3: It from global warming to climate, change because global warming

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01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:05,879
Speaker 3: didn't cover enough of their ideological. Insanity there are. Fires

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01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 3: WHEN i lived In, california there were. Fires there were also.

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01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:13,799
Speaker 3: Earthquakes it. Happens but if you want to talk about

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01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 3: not being prepared to handle a, fire well then now

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01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 3: we're having a. Conversation but if you're going to take private,

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01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 3: jets as is reported to talk about climate, change Well i'm.

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Speaker 3: Sorry we're done. Here the man has no shame and

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Speaker 3: he's still running for. President you can count on. It

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony katz.

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Speaker 25: TODAY a few moments, AGO i placed a wreath at

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Speaker 25: the tomb of The Unknown, soldier and AS i stepped

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01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:51,799
Speaker 25: back and stood during the moment of silence that, FOLLOWED

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Speaker 25: i said a small. Prayer and it occurred to me

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Speaker 25: that each of my predecessors has had a similar, moment

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Speaker 25: AND i wondered if our prayers weren't very much the

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01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 25: shame if not. Identical we Celebrate Veterans day on the

1507
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 25: anniversary of the armistice that Ended World War, one the

1508
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 25: armistice that began on the eleventh hour of the eleventh

1509
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 25: day of the eleventh.

1510
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 4: Month and that's Why Veterans day Is november.

1511
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 3: Eleventh Tony, Katz Tony kats, today good to be with.

1512
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 4: You this Is.

1513
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:31,719
Speaker 3: President Ronald reagan in nineteen eighty five On Veterans. Day,

1514
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 3: originally of, course Called Armistice, day it was changed To

1515
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 3: Veterans day By eisenhower in nineteen fifty. Four Armistice day

1516
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,560
Speaker 3: the end Of World War, one which happened on the

1517
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 3: eleventh hour the eleventh day of the eleventh. Month Veterans

1518
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 3: day is about those who have worn the. Uniform Memorial

1519
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 3: day is about those who have died in service of their.

1520
01:30:55,120 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 3: Country it's a distinction with a, difference and it's worthy

1521
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 3: of noting and ensuring that you have this. Conversation very,

1522
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 3: often these kinds of holidays come and, go and in today's,

1523
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 3: world they are not given, fanfare they're not given, focus

1524
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 3: and they get. Ignored these things shouldn't be. Ignored memory

1525
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 3: and history and culture and what it took and what

1526
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 3: it takes to have a free.

1527
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 4: Nation they.

1528
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 3: Matter what are the weirdest and strangest things about what

1529
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 3: we're seeing about some people on the, right and certainly

1530
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 3: seeing about the, left is that they don't think that

1531
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 3: somehow a fight is going to. Happen, oh you don't

1532
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 3: need to. Fight oh you don't need. War oh we

1533
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 3: have to stop being such. WARMONGERS i argue against the

1534
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 3: idea that we're. WARMONGERS i do think it is okay

1535
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 3: to say we don't have to be in every, battle

1536
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:44,639
Speaker 3: we don't have to participate in every, place we don't

1537
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 3: have to engage.

1538
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,719
Speaker 4: Everywhere that Much i'll agree.

1539
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 3: With but WHAT i find from What i'm seeing is

1540
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 3: that we shouldn't engage.

1541
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 4: Anywhere and anybody who engage as.

1542
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 3: Well they're just violent and they're the, enemy or they're

1543
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 3: genocidal and a bunch of. Garbage america exists because we

1544
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:08,719
Speaker 3: killed the. Enemy that's all there is to. It i'm

1545
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 3: not here to rewrite. History i'm here to make SURE

1546
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 3: i fully understand. It the history of the world involves

1547
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 3: this thing right. Here and someone full heartily will, say,

1548
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 3: well maybe we shouldn't be having these, Wars maybe we

1549
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 3: shouldn't be having these, Conflicts we shouldn't be having these.

1550
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 4: Fights what have we just?

1551
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 3: Stopped the human condition is not stopping for anyone or.

1552
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:36,759
Speaker 3: Anything it's not stopping for weak minds or small, minds

1553
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 3: or not weak nor. Small but mine's engaged in a

1554
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 3: fantasy and a belief that somehow human nature can be,

1555
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 3: Changed AND i put forth to you it, cannot.

1556
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 4: And therefore we.

1557
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 3: Can only do what we can to create guidelines to

1558
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 3: create a, better more civil society while being.

1559
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 4: Ready in no way WOULD i ever.

1560
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 3: Want a society where people settle their differences by shooting

1561
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 3: each other in the.

1562
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 4: Streets i'm glad we've gotten rid of the, duel.

1563
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:11,280
Speaker 3: But there is no way for societies to settle their

1564
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 3: beefs if one society believes the other society should be

1565
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 3: conquered or. Destroyed why DO i believe in free markets

1566
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 3: and trade because nations that make money off each other

1567
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 3: rarely go about shooting each. Other i'm A Milton friedman on.

1568
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 3: THIS i think that's. Valuable but from the halls Of

1569
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 3: montezuma to the shores Of tripoli tell a story about who.

1570
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 4: The enemy is and why they are indeed the.

1571
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 3: Enemy and if anybody thinks for a second that you're

1572
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 3: not going to have to fix your bayonet at the

1573
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:47,639
Speaker 3: end of the, rifle at the end of the, day

1574
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 3: at the final. Moment i'm, sorry that's just not a rational. Thought,

1575
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 3: now maybe it won't come to, that and MAYBE i

1576
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 3: should say it. Differently one has to be prepared to

1577
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 3: do and one needs a fighting force that is trained

1578
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 3: to do. It and you hope through the other channels

1579
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 3: in the other ways that moment never. Comes but until

1580
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 3: the human existence, changes which it never, will until there

1581
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 3: are no more, humans you better be. Prepared and this

1582
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 3: is my conversation About Veterans.

1583
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 4: Day this is.

1584
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 3: WHAT i think is so incredibly important about those people

1585
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 3: who have.

1586
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 4: Served they may never have been in a combat, role

1587
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 4: they were still. Prepared you got to respect.

1588
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 3: That AND i Appreciated Ronald reagan's remarks from nineteen eighty.

1589
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:53,919
Speaker 25: Five AND i, wonder in, fact if All america's prayers

1590
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 25: aren't the same as THOSE i mentioned a moment. Ago

1591
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 25: the timing of this holiday is quite deliberate in terms

1592
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 25: of historical, fact but somehow it always seems quite fitting

1593
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 25: to me that this day comes deep in, autumn when

1594
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 25: the colors are muted and the days seem to invite.

1595
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 25: Contemplation we are gathered at The National, cemetery which provides

1596
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,839
Speaker 25: a final resting place for the heroes who have defended

1597
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 25: our country since The Civil. War this, amphitheater this place for,

1598
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 25: speeches is more central to The cemetery than at first

1599
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 25: might seem. Apparent for all we can ever do for

1600
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:38,759
Speaker 25: our heroes is remember them and remember what they, did

1601
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 25: and memories are transmitted through. Words sometime BACK i, received

1602
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 25: in the name of our, country the bodies of four

1603
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 25: marines who had died while on active. DUTY i said

1604
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 25: then that there is a special sadness that accompanies the

1605
01:35:55,479 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 25: death of a, servicemen for we're never quite good enough to.

1606
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 25: Them not, really we can't, be because what they gave

1607
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:11,720
Speaker 25: us is beyond our powers to. Repay and so when

1608
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 25: a service man, dies it's a tear in the, fabric

1609
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 25: a break in the, hole and all we can do is.

1610
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 25: Remember it, is in a way an odd thing to

1611
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 25: honor those who died in defense of our, country in

1612
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 25: defense of us in wars far. Away the imagination plays a.

1613
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 25: Trick we see these soldiers in our mind as old and.

1614
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 25: Wise we see them as something like the Founding, fathers

1615
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 25: grave and gray, haired but most of them were boys

1616
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 25: when they, died and they gave up two, lives the

1617
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 25: one they were living and the one they would have.

1618
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 3: LIVED i never think we should be engaged in any

1619
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 3: process of, warfare.

1620
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:01,719
Speaker 4: Willy, nilly never, have, never ever.

1621
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 3: Have that's different than whether or not we should be

1622
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 3: a nation that is prepared and when we go to,

1623
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 3: fight we obliterate the. Enemy but the poetry In reagan right,

1624
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:17,480
Speaker 3: there regarding those who served.

1625
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:24,680
Speaker 4: And the two, lives this is just he was a

1626
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 4: cut above in this.

1627
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 3: Regard i'm not engaged in a conversation that was he.

1628
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:30,680
Speaker 4: Perfect there is no.

1629
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:33,479
Speaker 3: Perfect i'm saying that when it came to being able

1630
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 3: to deliver a, speech deliver a, thought deliver a moment of, poetry.

1631
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:45,640
Speaker 4: He was in every way above and. Beyond it IS

1632
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 4: i think truly.

1633
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 3: Important This Veteran's day that before the day is, out.

1634
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 4: Just thirty seconds with your.

1635
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 3: Kids, hey It's Veterans day and a lot of people

1636
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 3: have put on the uniform to serve their.

1637
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 4: Country now you.

1638
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 3: Can serve your country in a lot of. Ways you

1639
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 3: don't necessarily have to wear a. Uniform but if that's

1640
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 3: something you want to.

1641
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 4: DO i want to talk to you about.

1642
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 3: It but we should be thankful for those people who

1643
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 3: are willing to give up their lives if, necessary in

1644
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 3: the defense of a, nation because sometimes you actually have

1645
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:17,759
Speaker 3: to defend the, nation like sometimes you have to defend.

1646
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 3: Yourself so you should never let a veteran's day just

1647
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 3: go by the. Wayside just take a.

1648
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 4: Moment and be.

1649
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 3: Thankful and if you see somebody wearing the, uniform say thank,

1650
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 3: you and maybe they'll appreciate. It maybe they'll just give

1651
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 3: you away of whatever it, is but you'll know you remember.

1652
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:33,680
Speaker 3: It and make sure you tell your kids this as.

1653
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 3: Well thirty seconds. Boom that's all you got to, do

1654
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:42,920
Speaker 3: and not everything requires these major sit downs in, deep deep,

1655
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 3: contemplations although you may do it that.

1656
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:48,559
Speaker 4: Way i'm not here to, object but rather just to.

1657
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 3: Let them know, that you, know just to let them

1658
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 3: notice that you noticed and you marked the. CALENDAR i

1659
01:38:56,880 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 3: don't claim parenting advice that you know THAT i should

1660
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 3: be a guy giving parenting. ADVICE i sometimes find the

1661
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:07,599
Speaker 3: whole concept. WEIRD i THINK i have pretty great. Kids

1662
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 3: i'm pretty. Happy the one THING i will tell you

1663
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:12,599
Speaker 3: is that and people who have told you this.

1664
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 4: Before if you're a young parent or older.

1665
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 3: Parent maybe you've said, this it's Not kids don't so

1666
01:39:19,160 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 3: much listen to what you. Say they watch what you.

1667
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:27,680
Speaker 3: DO i think that is so outrageously true and has

1668
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 3: proven itself to be true time and time. Again but

1669
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 3: the part THAT i think is missed in that is

1670
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 3: that they do see how you bring something.

1671
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 4: Up they see how you engage. Something and it's.

1672
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:45,759
Speaker 3: Not always the big talk that's. Old this is serious

1673
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:49,680
Speaker 3: that's sometimes seen is. Overblown when you just give it

1674
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 3: something in, passing it's amazing what. Sticks it's amazing how it.

1675
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 3: Connects AND i.

1676
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 4: Don't know if you, need you, know an hour for.

1677
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 4: It maybe maybe that's what you.

1678
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:03,639
Speaker 3: Want i'm not here to tell you, no but thirty

1679
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 3: seconds of, hey this was on my, MIND i want

1680
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:07,760
Speaker 3: to share this with, You, okay what are.

1681
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 4: We having for?

1682
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 3: Dinner and then let them come back to you and

1683
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:13,680
Speaker 3: ask a question about. It and now it's casualness as

1684
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 3: opposed to, lecture AND i JUST i just always felt

1685
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 3: that that worked.

1686
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:19,720
Speaker 4: Better. NOW i will also, say in.

1687
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 3: A very large level of full, DISCLOSURE i talk for a,

1688
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 3: living AND i Think i'm terrible talking to my.

1689
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 4: KIDS i THINK i think I'm they tell me i'm.

1690
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:32,920
Speaker 4: Crazy they tell ME i am ridiculous and surreal and

1691
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:36,720
Speaker 4: foolhardy and could you just shut up? Already that and

1692
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 4: all the REST i. DO i, THINK i Think i'm.

1693
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:41,200
Speaker 4: AWFUL i Think i'm awful at.

1694
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 3: It but the Way i've kind of gotten around that

1695
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:47,599
Speaker 3: is through some of this, learning learning, this AND i

1696
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 3: And i've And i've been amazed by the. Results so

1697
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 3: maybe my experience, is you, know, anecdotal. Indifferent BUT i

1698
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:58,679
Speaker 3: don't think there's ever a. Moment it's just Like september.

1699
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:00,559
Speaker 3: ELEVENTH i don't know if you have to have a

1700
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 3: big five hour sit down about, it but you do

1701
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:06,679
Speaker 3: need to mention. It AND i think you'd be remiss

1702
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:12,720
Speaker 3: if you went Through Veterans day and didn't. Notice it's,

1703
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:14,679
Speaker 3: imperative it's.

1704
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 4: Important do.

1705
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,200
Speaker 3: That do not let this veteran's day go by the,

1706
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 3: Wayside do.

1707
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 4: Not let it escape your.

1708
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:28,639
Speaker 3: Mind give it thirty, seconds for your, kids for your,

1709
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 3: family these, veterans this, story this importance should not be,

1710
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:39,639
Speaker 3: forgotten not, now not, ever and sure as hell not by.

1711
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:41,760
Speaker 4: Us I'm tony Kass, So.

1712
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 26: Senator you came in as somewhat an, outsider and by the,

1713
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 26: WAY i was, wrong totally wrong about. YOU i thought

1714
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 26: you were going to be a, radical and you've been

1715
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:55,599
Speaker 26: totally different than. That who is running the show now

1716
01:41:55,800 --> 01:42:00,200
Speaker 26: in The Democratic, party in The, senate in The, HOUSE.

1717
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 20: I no, One no one really. Knows AND i think

1718
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 20: my values are reflected in my vote and the things

1719
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 20: THAT i support, here and if that might put me

1720
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:17,519
Speaker 20: at odds with parts of my, Party i'm okay with.

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01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 20: THAT i, mean we need to be a, big big,

1722
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:23,600
Speaker 20: party a big tent. Party so for, me it's like

1723
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:26,800
Speaker 20: these are pretty. REASONABLE i, mean you, know my party

1724
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 20: has always been opposing shutting our government. Down i'm not

1725
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 20: sure why it's controversial now to devote these. Things AND

1726
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 20: i refuse to put all these people in the middle

1727
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:38,760
Speaker 20: of this political kinds of.

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01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 4: Brinkmanship That's Senator John.

1729
01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 3: Fetterman and, yeah it's it's weird to witness that he

1730
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:52,559
Speaker 3: seems so focused and so, normal but he. Does Tony,

1731
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 3: Katz Tony katz, today good to be with. You to be,

1732
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 3: clear he doesn't make me want to become A. Democrat

1733
01:42:57,960 --> 01:42:59,680
Speaker 3: and to be, clear he's never going to be a.

1734
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:03,440
Speaker 3: Concerservatives he believes in some things and has some philosophies

1735
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:07,680
Speaker 3: that SIMPLY i do not connect WITH i have absolutely

1736
01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:09,160
Speaker 3: no interest in at.

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01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:11,680
Speaker 4: All BUT i.

1738
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:16,559
Speaker 3: Would, say like like you would, say if we can

1739
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 3: just agree on some, basics that would be kind of,

1740
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 3: awesome that would be, terrific that would be. Wonderful and

1741
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 3: certainly we can agree that the shutdown was nothing more

1742
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 3: Than shenanigan's, nothing nothing more than, nonsense nothing more than.

1743
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 4: Foolishness none of this was, necessary none of. It and

1744
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:42,760
Speaker 4: Yet democrats still want to.

1745
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:46,320
Speaker 3: Go and think we had this in the, bag we had,

1746
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:48,720
Speaker 3: victory this was gonna be a great win for.

1747
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 4: Us and what did we. Do we messed it all.

1748
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:54,680
Speaker 27: Up equate him To Pete carroll And Bill, belichick two

1749
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 27: guys that have Won Super, bowls and they were really

1750
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 27: good ten years. Ago AND i think this is a

1751
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 27: case where he he's a bit out of. Touch, look

1752
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:03,559
Speaker 27: a better leader could sell this. Deal this is not.

1753
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 27: Capitulation this is a. Pause you could make easily make the.

1754
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 27: Case we're not going to let him take snap benefits,

1755
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:14,640
Speaker 27: away and we're not going to Let Sean duffy you

1756
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:19,639
Speaker 27: screw up the air traffic system in this country during

1757
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:22,639
Speaker 27: the important. Holidays so we're going to be the adults

1758
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 27: in the room Here we're going to pause this and

1759
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 27: we've got a vote In, january and if they refuse

1760
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:31,639
Speaker 27: to do, this we'll shut this government down again until

1761
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:34,400
Speaker 27: they do. This but the problem Is Chuck schumer doesn't

1762
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 27: have credibility with the, left and he doesn't now have

1763
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:40,320
Speaker 27: credibility with the pragmatic wing because he somehow got these.

1764
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 27: PEOPLE i, mean he is the one THAT i think

1765
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 27: is making this look. WORSE i, mean Somehow democrats are

1766
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:48,719
Speaker 27: going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

1767
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:51,679
Speaker 4: Here what victory did they? Have Chuck?

1768
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:56,680
Speaker 3: Todd this is a complete misread of the. Situation and

1769
01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:58,600
Speaker 3: if you want to talk about How democrats.

1770
01:44:58,120 --> 01:45:01,760
Speaker 4: Can, spend, sure you could spin anything. Ahead but the

1771
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:05,680
Speaker 4: question is what victory do you think you? HAD i

1772
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:07,480
Speaker 4: think that is the actual.

1773
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:09,880
Speaker 3: Spin you know, What the story of the shutdown is

1774
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 3: more than just the madness of the idea that we

1775
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 3: have it and we still have senators who.

1776
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 4: Can't figure out how to do their damn.

1777
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 3: Job and this is WHERE i think we'd agree With

1778
01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 3: Senator fetterman and put forth a.

1779
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 4: Budget get it. Done what's wrong with you? PEOPLE i

1780
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 4: think the bigger story here is that The.

1781
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 3: Republicans held Firm the story of the shutdown is That

1782
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 3: republicans did not.

1783
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 4: Cave and right, now now that they've.

1784
01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:39,519
Speaker 3: Already passed us in The, senate they got to be

1785
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 3: looking at each other and, saying holy, cow we did.

1786
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:47,720
Speaker 4: It we did. It, wait, wait we did. That what

1787
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 4: else can we?

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01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:55,240
Speaker 3: Do people are underestimating the level of game changer that is.

1789
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 3: Possible here find everything At Tony katz dot. Com, tomorrow

1790
01:45:59,280 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 3: everyone take it

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Speaker 4: In and