1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: It's the Hammer and Nigel weekend show called ninety three WYBC. Hello, 2 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: my name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there with 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: a very special guest on the hotline. 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 2: She is one of our favorites rising star over at 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: Fox News and a Hoosier. Aisha Hasni joins us. Aisha, 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 2: how are you. 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: I'm doing wonderfully. Thank you for having me such an honor. 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much for coming back. And we 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: were just talking during the commercial break there. If we 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 2: go to your Twitter account right now, we'll see your 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: profile picture, which is like your official, you know, headshot 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: from Fox. But then in the banner behind it, we've 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: got Kurt Signetti raising that eyebrow up. 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 4: That's how I feel every day in DC when I'm 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 4: listening to all these politicians. I'm sort of like, are 16 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 4: you serious. 17 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: We'll get to us Bunn with the IU here in 18 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: just a little bit. We'll get to that because we 19 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: love following you supporting the Hoosiers. But let's get down 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 2: to business here a little bit. The latest on Donald 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: Trump's response to Minnesota. We've got Tom Homan out there, 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 2: he's doing press conferences. It seems like there's a little 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: let's make a deal taking place. 24 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:22,919 Speaker 1: What are you hearing? 25 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 4: That's exactly what we're hearing. The tides do feel like 26 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 4: they're turning a little bit. We've got this funding deadline 27 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 4: looming tomorrow, and so you've got you know, politicians on 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 4: Capitol Hill trying to work out some sort of a 29 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: deal to get this done. At the same time, Tom 30 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 4: Holman comes in and he's calmed a lot of people down, 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 4: including Jacob Frye and Governor Tim Waltz and hopefully demonstrators. Look, 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 4: he's a serious operator. I've known him for a while now, 33 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 4: couple of years. He's worked under several multiple presidents Under. 34 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: Obama, he knows what he's doing. 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 4: He's got a lot of respect on the ground amongst 36 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 4: law enforcement, and so he's trying his best. He says 37 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 4: he's not going to leave until the situation is under control. 38 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 4: But what he's trying to do is reach an agreement 39 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 4: with local officials to have ICE agents who are not 40 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 4: going away to work with local law enforcement to be 41 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 4: able to take the worst of the worst illegal immigrants 42 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 4: out of Minnesota. I mean, that's kind of the operation, 43 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 4: right and so far that hasn't really happened, and we saw. 44 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 3: Some rhetoric from Mayor Fry a couple. 45 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: Of days ago that actually raised a lot of eyebrows 46 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 4: even in Democratic camp, where he was saying he didn't 47 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 4: want to enforce federal immigration laws. Well, number one, no 48 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 4: one is asking him to enforce federal laws. They're asking 49 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 4: for cooperation. But number two, the majority of Americans do 50 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: believe in immigration laws. They don't believe in abolishing ice. 51 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: These kind of operations went on under even Democratic presidence. 52 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: So it is sort of a unique situation that's happening 53 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 3: in Minneapolis. 54 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 4: And I think Tom Homan is trying to figure this out, 55 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 4: and I think he will. There's a lot of confidence 56 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 4: in him. The other part of this, I'm sure you're watching, is. 57 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: The funding fight. And I knew this was going to happen. 58 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 3: I was in the middle of. 59 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 4: Breaking news when everything was you know, chaotic on the ground, 60 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: when Alex Peretti got shot and I was doing the 61 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 4: breaking news coverage for Fox News for three hours, and 62 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: I already knew going into it that that Democrats were 63 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 4: sort of looking for something to come back to the 64 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: hill and sort of fight Republicans and trying to get 65 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 4: looking for some political ammo and they had sort of 66 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 4: like really coalesced around. 67 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: The story about the five year old boy. Do you 68 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: remember that. 69 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 4: It seems like forever ago now, but it was only 70 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 4: two weeks ago or a week ago, and so they 71 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: kind of like coalesced around the story. 72 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: And then Alex. 73 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 4: Peretti got shot and it was sort of like, Okay, 74 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 4: this is our moment. 75 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: And so we knew that, you know, as you know. 76 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: The protests and riots were breaking out and things were 77 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 4: getting really messy. I knew this was there was going 78 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 4: to be potentially a partial government shut down. And so 79 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 4: what's going on right now is there might. 80 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 3: Be a deal. 81 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 4: There are six funding bills that the House passed last week. 82 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 3: The Senate is supposed to take up. 83 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 4: One of them is Department of Homeland Security, and the 84 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: Democrats are holding all of them hostage until they get 85 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 4: reforms on DHS and ICE. What appears the deal that's 86 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 4: sort of coming out is that both sides have agreed 87 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 4: that they would pass the other five right, keep government 88 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: funded the majority of it, hold on to the DHS 89 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 4: bill until they can figure out reforms, but pass funding 90 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 4: for Homeland Security through ACR through a continuing resolution to 91 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 4: the departments would still be funded, it just wouldn't get 92 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 4: the new funding that was passed by the House. So 93 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 4: right now they're just trying to figure out how long 94 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 4: the fund it for six weeks, a month, whatever, however 95 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 4: long they need to come to an agreement to White 96 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 4: House and send dem Democrats on what those reforms would 97 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 4: look like. So I do think there's going to be 98 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 4: a shutdown. I think a lot of people do. I 99 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 4: don't think it's going to be very long. It's really 100 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 4: only because the House is not in session and the 101 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 4: House needs to come. 102 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: Back and asha where we at with the Save Act, 103 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: right because we kept hearing that the Democrats were really 104 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: adamant that the Save Act can't happen. We've got Republicans, 105 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: you know, here in Indiana, our Senator Todd Young has 106 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: done a complete flip flop on it. He was against it, 107 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: now he's for it. What are we hearing about the 108 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 2: Save Act? 109 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 4: So I think from what I heard is that Rick Scott, 110 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 4: the Senator from Florida, is trying to push. 111 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 3: For amendment votes. 112 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 4: And this is kind of what happens when there's a 113 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: funding fight like this and in the last minute you 114 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 4: want to come to a time agreement, and what that 115 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 4: is is instead of going through the regular process, which 116 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 4: which could take a very long time to pass a 117 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 4: government funding bill, all the Senators have to agree to 118 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 4: sort of fast track it. And the way you get 119 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: senators to agree to that is, you know, you got. 120 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 3: To give them something. 121 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 4: And sometimes senators like Rand Paul and others will ask 122 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 4: for amendment votes, and so it sounds like there might 123 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 4: be a push from Rick Scott to get this as 124 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 4: his agreement to allow this to be fast tracked. We 125 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 4: might see a vote on it. I need to go 126 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 4: back and like clarify that, but it sounds like that's 127 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: what he's asking for. 128 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: Aisha Hansey, Fox News here on the Hammer of Nigel 129 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: Show at Asian Nigel here. Look, I think a lot 130 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: of people are paying attention to what's happening in Minnesota. 131 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: It's been in the headlines for a long time. When 132 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: people are still paying attention to the billions of dollars 133 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: in fraud, that that's been a distraction kind of for 134 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: a little while. But I don't think a lot of people. 135 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: A lot of Americans know about this shutdown, and it 136 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: seems like Republicans, Democrats both it's just it's kicking the 137 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: can down the road here. How much longer are these 138 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: shutdowns and these continuing resolutions going to happen. It's like, 139 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: come on, let's get something done. 140 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 4: It makes us all a little crazy, doesn't it. 141 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: It's sind of. 142 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 4: Like when you're just watching from home and it seems 143 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: like every other week we're talking about a government yup down. 144 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: It's like hard to understand what we send these people 145 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 4: to Congress for. 146 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: And I always I agree with that. 147 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 4: You know, I think that Congress has one job, you know, 148 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 4: it has. 149 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: There's a lot of things Congress does, but Congress's. 150 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 4: Main job is to fund the government, literally just to 151 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 4: sign a check. 152 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: And there is a regular process to it. 153 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 4: There are twelve parts of government and they have to 154 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 4: all be funded, and the House's responsibility to work with 155 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 4: the Senate to pass these twelve bills. And for some 156 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 4: odd reason, they always like run out of time or 157 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: they have. 158 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: Other stuff going on. 159 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 4: They can never get it done, and so we wind 160 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 4: up in this situation. 161 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: Where you know, we're on the clock and they have 162 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: to find a way to just fund it. So they 163 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: wind up passing a continuing resolution. And it's like that 164 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: over and over and over again. 165 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 4: And the continuing resolution, which I kind of call a 166 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 4: band aid, is never long enough. It's always like a month, 167 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 4: it's always three months. I mean we were literally here 168 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 4: like not like a month ago and it was and 169 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 4: we knew we're tending. 170 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: And the problem with. 171 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 4: That is is that it creates when you have a 172 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 4: minority like Democrats, where they don't have any power, right, 173 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 4: they don't have power in the House or Senate. Funding 174 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 4: fights are the only time they have leverage because you 175 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 4: need their votes. You need their votes to get through 176 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 4: cloture and get to the final passage of a funding bill. 177 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: So it's sort of like this is their only time to. 178 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 4: Make noise, and you're giving them that opportunity every single 179 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 4: time to ask for something, demand something. 180 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 3: So that's kind of the problem. 181 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 4: And the other problem is this is just not how 182 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 4: it's supposed to be. You're supposed to just fund the 183 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 4: government're supposed to have a budget. We're supposed to have 184 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 4: a budget every single every single day. By the way, 185 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 4: just on the Save Act, I looked it up and 186 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 4: it looks like today Congressman on a Point a Luna, 187 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 4: Florida is now talking about potentially attaching the Save Act 188 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: to the DHS funding build a Homeland Security funding bill 189 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 4: when it comes back to the House. So there is 190 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 4: this is just if it gets If everything gets through 191 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: the Senate and the Senate gets everything done, they leave 192 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 4: for the week like, Okay, we. 193 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 3: Did our job. 194 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 4: Government is not funded yet because they've changed the bills, 195 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: and so it will have to go back to the House, 196 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 4: and the House there's going to be quite a feat 197 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 4: for Speaker Johnson. Everyone's going to have an opinion about 198 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: how they want to what they want to do attached 199 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 4: to it, how they want to deal with it. 200 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's not quite done yet. 201 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: She is the anchor and White House correspondent for Fox 202 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: News and again check out the new program Fox News 203 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 2: Live Saturdays twelve to two Eastern. Aisha has Nate, we 204 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: love having you on. Don't be a stranger and we'll 205 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: talk to you soon. 206 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 3: Sound dude. 207 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 4: I really think the Indiana viewers are what's what are 208 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 4: giving me the views right now? 209 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: My ratings have. 210 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 4: Been really Excellent's think I feel like all of Indiana 211 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 4: is tuning in. 212 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: Well, you're really good at what you do too. That 213 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: has a little something to do with it as well. Aisha, 214 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 2: you thanks, guys, you got it. 215 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: This guy, this guy, this freaking guy. 216 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 4: Look at this freaking good because the guys are like 217 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 4: too stupid to live. 218 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: So a new game that we've been playing on this program. 219 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: It's hard. 220 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: It's called this freaking Guy. 221 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: It's a tough one. Here's how it works. 222 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell Nigel about a certain celebrity or newsmaker, 223 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: and then his challenge is to hold back everything in 224 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: his being and not say the phrase, oh, this freaking guy. 225 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 2: Let's see if Nige can hold off. First one, Stephen Colbert. 226 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: It's freaking guy lost. They failed. Late night talk show hosts, 227 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: go ahead. I'm sorry, the. 228 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: Real name is Stephen Colbert, but he goes by. Colbert 229 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: is now suggesting that it's an insult to Nazis to 230 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: compare Ice agents to them, because the Nazis were better. 231 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 4: Yes, do not compare Ice or border patrol agents to 232 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 4: the Nazis. 233 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 5: That's an unfair comparison. The Nazis were willing to show 234 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 5: their faces. 235 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: So no, Yeah, this's freaking guys for real, propping up. 236 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: He's propping up actual Nazis, yes, in Germany and minimizing 237 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: the Holocaust, minimizing the millions of victims from the hull 238 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: of comparing Ice to Nazis. Like Guttfeld said on the 239 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: five on board, with that comparison, it holds no water, 240 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: it holds no weight the Nazis that you're calling people racist, Nazis, Gestapo. 241 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: It's all old hat man. You're failed. Face it. You 242 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: and your ilk are not getting any ratings. It's a 243 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: reason why you were done right. It is the reason 244 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: why you are canceled. Nobody likes he, Nobody cares what 245 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: you have to say. And I don't know what's worse 246 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: him saying that or the seals in his audience clapping 247 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: right for that comparison. 248 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: Now there's scheduled to be some new No King's rally 249 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: here in a couple of weeks when all of those 250 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: freaks show up wearing masks. Are we gonna hear the 251 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: same lecture from Stephen Colbert and all the Blue Sky 252 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: crowd because they really hate masked people. Right now, I'm 253 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: not sure what antifah, You're throwing a brick through the 254 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: window and then they see nothing, they see nothing at all, 255 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: This breaking guy, Well, it wouldn't be Thursday at five 256 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: point thirty six. So we didn't talk about Bruce Springsteen. 257 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: At some point, Bruce Springsteen dropped a new protest song yesterday, 258 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: Nige the man that brought you that hit streets of 259 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: Philadelphia now brings you streets of Minneapolis. He dedicates it 260 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: to the people of the city of Minneapolis, the innocent 261 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: immigration neighbors, and in the memory of Alex Pretty and 262 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: Renney Good. 263 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: See how I'll see how long I can get through this, 264 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: because I think this is the whole Soon Winter, this 265 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: breaking guy, heaven. 266 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 6: A city of flame, fire and dieth Occupius Boots. 267 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if I could Trump's. 268 00:13:52,600 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 6: Private army from the dhos. Oh good, Coots, come on 269 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 6: nine to mini air, bliss too and force the law. 270 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 6: Were so there, stookeet God. 271 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 2: If you don't stop this right now, I'm gonna throw 272 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: a chair at electronic gad. 273 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: Citizens. Let's at least get to the chorus. 274 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: Oh come on, why are you doing them? 275 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna everybody's gonna I'm suffering everybody. 276 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: Pretty food drinks, mercy should have stoop. 277 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: And now he's gonna right that look good left to die. 278 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 6: On Snowfield Street. Alex Pretty and Rene I called it. 279 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 6: You look up the chairs satine like that. 280 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: I can't this. 281 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: Frigging guy just lie after lie in this protest song. 282 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: Oh please, No, I can't deal with that. Who's going 283 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: to download that? Who's going to listen to that? And 284 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: honestly trading on the names of Alex Pretty and Renee 285 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: Good so you can sing a song about them. 286 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: Right to become relevant in your little liberal circle. 287 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's all it is. They didn't ever ask who 288 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: the name of the victim was when Renee Good was shot. 289 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: In terms of the media, they wanted to know the 290 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: name of the ice agent. That was the first question 291 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: they asked in that press pool the first conference that 292 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: they held way back a few weeks ago. Don't I 293 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: don't know want to know about the victim. I don't 294 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: care what her name was. Who was the ice agent 295 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: that pulled the trigger? What's his name? Where can we 296 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: find him? What's going to happen to him? That's how 297 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: much the media cared. That's how much celebrities cared. That's 298 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: how much Bruce Springsteen cared about the quote unquote the. 299 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: Blood of ses Trump's predator. 300 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: I can imagine poor Rob Kendall giving hundreds and hundreds 301 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: of dollars to him over the year, probably thousands, this 302 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: freaking guy. 303 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: We move on to the Breaking Bad star Gian Carlo Esposito, 304 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: who says that what he sees in Minneapolis as grounds 305 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: for a revolution. 306 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 7: This is time for revolution. It's time for it, and 307 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 7: they don't even know that's what they're starting. 308 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 8: You know, some very rich old white men are exerting 309 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 8: their power evil a suppress our own people, thus creating 310 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 8: a feeling of civil war in the streets, preparing the hate, 311 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 8: the haters to hate, teaching them how to shoot. 312 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 7: They're not even trained rider to kill. This is all 313 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 7: a preparation for a very insidious problem that's happening in 314 00:16:55,640 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 7: our world. And for me, I have to speak out 315 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 7: that we will not be iced out. This is time 316 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 7: for revolution. It's time for it, and they don't even 317 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 7: know that's what they're starting. 318 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: That who is that guy from Breaking Bad? I think 319 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: he played Gus and Breaking Bad. He was like the 320 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: drug one of the drug kingpins. Revolution. Okay, say that 321 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: behind your gated communities, from the gates of your mansion. 322 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: Oh yes, we need to start a revolution, you guys, 323 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: go ahead. I'll just be back here at my mansion 324 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: collecting my millions it's the way it is with every 325 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: celebrity right and really every politician. I mean, you remember 326 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: old balls Tim Walls, the governor of Minnesota, for behind 327 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: his gated mansion telling people to rise up and do 328 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: what you need to do. And I'm paraphrasing, but you 329 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: understand what I'm getting at this frigging guy. 330 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 2: I will see your talk of a revolution and I 331 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: will raise you civil wars to electric boogaloo. Chicago Mayor 332 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: Brandon Johnson says that because of Ice, it's clear to 333 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: him that the Republicans, the conservatives, the right wing in 334 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: this country have not accepted the results of a civil 335 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: war and they want to rematch. 336 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 9: It's unfortunate that Greg Favino's that his legacy will take 337 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 9: time for people to understand how nasty of an individual 338 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 9: he really is. 339 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: That it's clear there's two things. 340 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 9: One, it's clear that the far right in this country 341 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 9: that they have not accepted the results of the civil war, 342 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 9: that they have longed for a rematch. 343 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: To have a republic that. 344 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 9: Subjugates and subjects individuals to a permanent lower class. 345 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: Bavino, by the way, he mentioned that guy was running 346 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: ICE operations there until Tom Holman got there a couple 347 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: of days ago before Trump and then now, I mean, 348 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: this freaking guy, seriously, like Brandon Johnson, Chicago Mayor, there's 349 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: a reason why there are no other uprisings really in 350 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: the rest of the country, including I think there's been 351 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: some protests in Chicago, but nothing like we've seen in Minneapolis. Right, 352 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: there's a reason for that. Okay, you're you're this whole 353 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: thing is dying off. It's dwindling, and quite frankly, as 354 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: bad as it was, and the rhetoric nationally that was happening, 355 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: it was relatively small scale when we're talking about protests 356 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: and demonstrators and agitators, and I'm not saying I'm not 357 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: excusing that at all, but we're dealing with a little 358 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: place in Minneapolis that this is happening now again on 359 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: a national level. The rhetoric and the tone and the 360 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: tenor of lawmakers, people in authority, the legacy media, the 361 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: late night talk show hosts that are that are that 362 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: are advocating for violence against federal law enforcement officers. That's 363 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: a real thing, right, but your cause is dying off, Mayor, 364 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: and those ridiculous comparisons. The right is still upset with 365 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: the results of the Civil War or something like that. 366 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 2: It was that Democrat party that wanted to keep the 367 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 2: slaves exactly, this frigging guy. Think about Chicago. Remember Lori Lightfoot, 368 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: Remember old Beetlejuice. If you thought she was at the 369 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: bottom of the barrel, then here comes Brandon Johnson to 370 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: prove that if you lift up the barrel and look 371 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: underneath of the barrel, you could find a whole new 372 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: level of scum. 373 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: This frigging guy. 374 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 2: It's the Hammer and Nigel Show. 375 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show. Hello, my 376 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there with a 377 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: very special guest on the hotline. 378 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 2: The newly named chief of at least for the IMPD. 379 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 2: Tanya Terry joins us, Chief, Can we call you chief 380 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: at this point? Do we have to wait a few days. 381 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 5: I'll answer to anything, but you can call me chief 382 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 5: if you'd like. 383 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Chief, Welcome to the program. Here, congratulations, twenty 384 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 2: seven years working with the department, and now in essence 385 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: it's your department. Tell us a little bit about yourself. 386 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 10: Well, as you said, twenty seven years ID IMPD veteran 387 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 10: officer I'm married. I actually was raised here in Indianapolis 388 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 10: and a proud graduate of Warren Central High School. 389 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 5: On the east side of town, and have chosen to 390 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 5: raise my. 391 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 10: Family here in Marion County as well. So the city 392 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 10: is important to me. It matters, and I absolutely adore 393 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 10: our police department. 394 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: Let's go back, we could get onto you know what's 395 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: going to happen in here in the future with the 396 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: city and her new leadership. But just maybe, do you 397 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: remember the first time you ever thought about becoming a 398 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: police officer and did you ever think it would be 399 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: escalating too the one of the highest positions within the department. 400 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 10: No, I never actually thought about being the chief of police. 401 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 10: When I considered a career in law enforcement. I remember 402 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 10: being a young, active street cop and thinking that that 403 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 10: was what I was going to do for the next 404 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 10: thirty plus years, is be a beat officer. 405 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 5: And there's been so many beat cops that I have admired. 406 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 10: And respected that have done that and spent their entire. 407 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 5: Career on the street. 408 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 10: So that's kind of where my mindset was, except I 409 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 10: kind of took a turn about fifteen sixteen years in 410 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 10: my career. 411 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 5: I was encouraged to. 412 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 10: Take the promotional process, and when I got promoted, my 413 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 10: eyes were open to the opportunity that formal leadership afforded. 414 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 5: For me and those that I worked around. So things 415 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 5: kind of took off from there, as you can tell. 416 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 10: And now I've gotten this incredible honor and opportunity to 417 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 10: serve in this capacity as deeply humbling and. 418 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 2: Looking at your bio and your career in terms of 419 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: public service with the police department. You are a founding 420 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: member of that violent Crimes Unit. I believe that was 421 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 2: back in nineteen ninety nine. One of the founding members 422 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 2: of the IMPD Violent Crimes Unit. Talk about that experience 423 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: and I know you've probably seen some heinous, awful things 424 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 2: working with that group, but has that prepared you for 425 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: this current role. 426 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 5: Absolutely it has. My time with the violent Crimes Unit, which. 427 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 10: As a patrol officer at the time, really opened my 428 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 10: eyes to new units being formed and being a part 429 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 10: of of shaping what the vision and the mission that 430 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 10: you was and then working there was only nine. 431 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 5: Of us in the unit and working, of course, I 432 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 5: was the only. 433 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 10: Female, So working in a small unit dynamic going after 434 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 10: some of the most violent criminals in our county opened 435 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 10: my eyes a lot, and I learned an incredible amount 436 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 10: about police work, investigations, and how important partnerships across different agencies, 437 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 10: across different units within the agency, and partnerships in the 438 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 10: community are so crucial to our success. 439 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: What's it been like. We're speaking with a new IMPD Chief, 440 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: tany Terarry here. What's it been like working with the 441 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: current chief? Chris Bailey's been on this program many times, 442 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: and what have you learned from him? And what can 443 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: you take moving forward to improve the city, improve IMPD 444 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: and what's that going to look like here in the future. 445 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 10: I don't know if everybody is aware of this, but 446 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 10: Chief Bailey and I were in the same IPD recruit 447 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 10: class in nineteen ninety nine, so we have followed each 448 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 10: other's careers for the last twenty seven years and really 449 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 10: never worked directly with each other. Our paths kind of 450 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 10: went separate ways because our agency is so large, but 451 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 10: of course we've followed each other along and in recent years, 452 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 10: as I've been a member of the command staff, we've 453 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 10: gotten even closer. And he has set an incredible example 454 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 10: for me to follow in his leadership, in his strategic thinking. 455 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 10: I know that as a man and as a person, 456 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 10: he cares very deeply for his police officers in his community, 457 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 10: and he's been an extremely inspiring. 458 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 5: Mentor for me throughout the entire our entire career. 459 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 2: Really, Chief, what are some plans you have to improve 460 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 2: on what's happened with IMPD. We hear that the crime 461 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: numbers are down, We see the statistics. That's good, but 462 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: there's also the fact that this is a city that 463 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 2: has a higher homicide rate per capita than Chicago, which 464 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: is bad. So what can you do to address some 465 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 2: of these issues moving forward? 466 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 5: Well, absolutely, we have been. 467 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 10: We're constantly looking for ways to improve. We're constantly self 468 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 10: critiquing our strategies and. 469 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 5: Operational plans. 470 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 10: But we want to continue the trend that we currently 471 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 10: are enjoying of driving violent crime down. 472 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 5: One of the ways that we'll do that is making 473 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 5: sure that. 474 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 10: We're involving other community partners, and we've proven that that's 475 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 10: been successful when we have an approach that involves our 476 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 10: entire community and that's not just involving the police alone. 477 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 10: We're definitely going to have greater success in that and 478 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 10: attacking and identifying people, places, and behavior that are. 479 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 5: Contributing to that crime. Because we know that it's a. 480 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 10: Small percentage of our community that are contributing to this violence. 481 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 10: So we'll continue to be laser focused on those people, places, 482 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 10: and behaviors that are driving our crime stats up and 483 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 10: make an impact in that way, but with help of 484 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 10: our local, state, federal, and community partners. 485 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: FOP President Rick Snyder had nothing but glowing things to 486 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: say about you and your placement there is in the 487 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: role of the new IMPD chief. How important was it 488 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: for you to have the support of people under you 489 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: and the FOP and the president. 490 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 5: Oh, it's incredible. There's one thing that is certainly front 491 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 5: of mine for me, and that. 492 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 10: Is bringing people together, whether it's our labor union and 493 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 10: the management or if it's our officers in our community. 494 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 10: That's one of my goals is to work together with 495 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 10: people to accomplish common vision and goals. 496 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 2: We know that recruitment has been somewhat of an issue 497 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 2: the last couple of years. Now, I admit I haven't 498 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 2: seen the numbers for this past year, but is retainment 499 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: and recruitment something that you're focused on. 500 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 501 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 10: Of course, staffing and staffing challenges have been an extremely 502 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 10: pressing issue for our agency. 503 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 5: We're down over three hundred officers currently, and I would 504 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 5: love to. 505 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 10: Emphasize the fact that we intend to focus on retention 506 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 10: first and foremost. 507 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 5: That's short term. We want to make sure that the 508 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 5: people that work here. 509 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 10: We have amazing sworn officers, incredible professional staff that have 510 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 10: been dedicated and work tireless hours to ensure safety in 511 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 10: our community. We want to make sure that they have 512 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 10: the support of their department, the support of their community, 513 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 10: that they have the tools that they need, that they 514 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 10: have the training that they need, and they have the 515 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 10: wellness supports that they need to stay healthy to continue 516 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 10: to do the work that they're doing. 517 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 5: We know that if we have a healthy. 518 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 10: Workforce that that is going to translate in our community 519 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 10: through every interaction that our officers. 520 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 5: Have with the members of our public. Additionally, for the 521 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 5: long term, you mentioned. 522 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 10: Recruiting, of course, we're going to strengthen our recruiting efforts. 523 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 10: We'll be looking at what's working in other cities, what's 524 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 10: working in other communities, and attempting to strengthen the partnerships 525 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 10: that we have in the community so that we can 526 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 10: identify those who have a heart to serve. We certainly 527 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 10: need the help and we welcome people that want to 528 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 10: be a part of something that's bigger than themselves, the 529 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 10: people that want to help somebody who can't help themselves. 530 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 2: Chief last thing here before we let you go, and 531 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: we appreciate your time. I know that when you first 532 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: got into leasing with now the IMPD, you were friends 533 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: with David Moore, fallen officer, fallen hero, David Moore. We 534 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: had talked about him recently as we celebrated his life 535 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: with the anniversary of his in the line of duty death, unfortunately, 536 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: but talk a little bit about your friendship with David Moore, 537 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: and it just kind of goes to show what your officers, 538 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: what you your crew deal with on the daily basis. 539 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 10: Absolutely, David was an incredible human being and an incredible 540 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 10: police officer, So what a wonderful combination. I had the 541 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 10: privilege to know him as a friend and to work 542 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 10: with him as a peer, and I would love to 543 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 10: share an important lesson that I learned from David. 544 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 5: As a senior officer, I had more experience. I was 545 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 5: a veteran and worked with David and had the pleasure 546 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 5: to learn from him. 547 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 10: The importance of compassion and empathy. So David had a 548 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 10: special skill of seeing the humanity and every single person 549 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 10: that he met, whether he was arresting them and taking 550 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 10: them to jail or he was helping them on the 551 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 10: side of the road. He treated everybody with dignity and 552 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 10: respect and compassion and empathy. 553 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 5: And that is something that I had carried with me 554 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 5: after knowing him and. 555 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 10: Seeing how he carried himself and seeing the way he 556 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 10: impacted those around him, it helped me to see that 557 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 10: there were more things in this world, more things than 558 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 10: breaking the law or not breaking the law. It was 559 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 10: deeper than black and white. It was important to carry 560 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 10: that on in his memory and remember that in my 561 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 10: daily work, and I think it's made me a better person. 562 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 10: And there would be no bigger cheerleader and nobody happier 563 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 10: than David to see this appointment with me. 564 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a Ron Collague kid. I was a 565 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: beach growth kid. So us Southsiders we kind of stick together. 566 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 2: I've been fortunate enough to meet his family at a 567 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 2: couple different FOP events and great people and it's important 568 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 2: for us on this program to always remember the heroes 569 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 2: that put their lives on the line. Newly named IMPD 570 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 2: Chief Tanya Terry Tanya We're wishing you nothing but the 571 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: best of luck and we'd love to have you back 572 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: on the program here. Please don't be a stranger. 573 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 5: Absolutely, thank you for having me. I appreciate it. 574 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: It's the Hammer and Nigel show Hines. The Ketchup people 575 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: have just launched a keg chup. It's a big keg 576 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: of catchup, nineteen and a half inch ten pound catchup 577 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 2: dispenser that holds one hundred and fourteen ounces of catchup. Now, 578 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: they had a contest to get these away online and 579 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: the contest was so overwhelming it crashed their website and 580 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: now they're all out of keg chups? Would that interest 581 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: you if you went to somebody's house and they had 582 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 2: a keg chup, would you just be like, all right, let's. 583 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: Make something to give me a bottle of red gold, Okay, 584 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't need a keg of ketchup. 585 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 2: That's it's called a keg chup. 586 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, thank you for correcting me on that. I apologize. No, no, no, Maybe, 587 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: like sometimes i'd go into McDonald's and rarely, would you know, 588 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: I'll take the kids there and like it's all out 589 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: of ketchup the dispenser. Maybe they need to ketch up 590 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: the keg the keg chop more. I couldn't imagine anybody 591 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form, in any setting needing 592 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: a keg of ketchup personally at their house. 593 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 2: Is it because it's ketchup? Or would you like any 594 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 2: other condiment in there? 595 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 10: Like? 596 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 2: What condiment do you use that would warrant a keg? 597 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: Honey mustard ranch? 598 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: I like a mix of ketchup and mayonnaise, fancy sauce 599 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: as it were in Step Brothers. Okay, sure, I'll take 600 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: a keg of fancy sauce, Alison, what condiment would warrant 601 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: a keg in your kingdom? 602 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 3: Chick fil a sauce? 603 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 4: Oh? 604 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I was gonna say Chick fil a sauce. 605 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 5: Yeah. 606 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: Number two. 607 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 2: I think honey mustard might be mine. I love some 608 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 2: honey mustard. 609 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: Man Chili's had some great honey mustard for their chicken 610 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: crispers back in the day. I haven't been there forever, 611 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: or maybe outback steakhouses. I could do a keg of 612 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: outback steakhouse ranch. 613 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 2: Their ranch is different than other ranch, yes really? 614 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: Oh, I mean I haven't had their cheese fries forever 615 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm getting hungry. 616 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 2: What do we think about this? Bill Belichick, longtime Patriots coach, 617 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 2: won all those Super Bowls with Brady Hall of Fame snub. 618 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 2: He was not selected to make the Hall of Fame, 619 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: and a lot of people are saying that it's because 620 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: of former Colts GM Bill Pollian. Now, Bill Pollion's kind 621 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 2: of backtracking a little bit, saying, wait a minute, I 622 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 2: voted for him. 623 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if I voted. 624 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 2: For him per se. But there was a report that 625 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 2: came out yesterday that said Bill Pollion was the one 626 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: leading the charge to say, don't put that cheating, no 627 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 2: good lie Bill Belichick in the Hall of Fame. 628 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: So is that maybe what has to do with, you know, 629 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: not being a first ballot is just the cheating scandal. 630 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: It could be the flay Gate or otherwise the videotaping 631 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: and the practices and things, and so Bill Poleon has 632 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 1: a say or a vote, and who he's. 633 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 2: A Hall of Famer, So he gets a vote, and 634 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 2: then it's almost like a house whip. He's walking around 635 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 2: telling everybody else, you know, don't do this, don't do that, 636 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 2: vote for this person. Now, that's what's alleged Pollion has 637 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 2: denied it, and he's kind of backtracking now, but let's 638 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 2: be honest. I've heard Bill Pollion's not the friendliest dude 639 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 2: to be around, so maybe he did. 640 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: I mean, Bill Belichick deserves to be in the Hall 641 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: of Fame, probably first ballot, although would he be in 642 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame if it weren't for Tom Brady? 643 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 2: Okay, So that's interesting because one of the guys on 644 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 2: the Degenerates next Door sports betting pod, Paul kenny Brett said, 645 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: might be an unpopular opinion, but how good of a 646 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 2: coach was Belichick? He had a four forty four winning 647 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: percentage without Tom Brady. He only went above five hundred 648 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 2: once when he was the coach of the Browns in 649 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 2: five years. He was worse than that after Brady left. 650 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 2: And remember he had full control of everything. So in 651 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: my opinion, the numbers say he belongs, but there's a 652 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 2: handful of coaches i'd definitely take over Bill Belichick. 653 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting how the Patriots that year that Tom Brady 654 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: was injured they went to the playoffs with Castle, didn't 655 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: they They did? 656 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 2: That was one of the few years they had success 657 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 2: without Tom Brady. 658 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: Say, they won a suit. They didn't win the Super Bowl, 659 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 1: but he still made it to the playoffs. 660 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a good year and Matt Castle signed 661 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 2: a big free agent deal as a result of that. 662 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 2: But somebody else on social media makes a great point. Look, 663 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick waited forty seven years for his girlfriend to 664 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 2: be born. He can wait a few more years for 665 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. Not a big deal it to 666 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick. He's pretty good at that waiting things out. 667 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: Stuff. 668 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 2: You've been listening to The Hammer and Nigel Show Weekend Show. 669 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 2: Follow us on social media at Hammer and Nigel and 670 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 2: check out the store store dot Hammer and Nigel dot com.