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Speaker 1: Three bunch of two way Noblesville boomers here.

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Speaker 1: Four, a bracket that Mark Dighton accurately predicted all four

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Speaker 1: We'll definitely hit Colts, probably the most we've done here

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Speaker 2: It's the same grouping as last year.

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Speaker 4: Mean, you've got to be pretty confident that guy if

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Speaker 4: you're willing the shipoff picks five years from well, I.

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Speaker 2: Think that's a debate.

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Speaker 1: It would add more because the one thing the NFL

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Speaker 1: probably lacks is the amount of trades that you see

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Speaker 1: in other professional sports leagues. I mean, honestly, I think

444
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Speaker 1: one of the bigger reasons why people do gravitate so

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Speaker 1: much the NBA is the damn trade machine and all

446
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Speaker 1: the things you can you know, think about and whip

447
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Speaker 1: up here, where's the NFL.

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Speaker 2: We just don't get that right.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I guess you know, from ownership standpoint,

450
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Speaker 1: you'd have some hesitancy from your team building, but also

451
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Speaker 1: if you want to dangle the entertainment value aspect to it,

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Speaker 1: that would have been there. So again, James Wygn and

453
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Speaker 1: join us coming up here in the nine o'clock hour.

454
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Speaker 1: We will hit on I know he had some takeaways

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Speaker 1: from his conversation with Chris Ballard will hit on some

456
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Speaker 1: of those on the other side can continue to look

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Speaker 1: back on Purdue and their season coming to a close.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you have caught it, Mark, but

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Speaker 1: I'd say over the last week the Indiana Purdue venom

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Speaker 1: has been hot and heavy in the YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Chat, been ratcheted up a little bit.

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Speaker 4: People in the probably not enjoying the spring breaks, so

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Speaker 4: they're getting their their venom out here.

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Speaker 1: I do have a question for you. Do you count

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Speaker 1: you were born in what year? Eighty five?

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Speaker 3: Tail end?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I was born in eighty nine. Notre Dame won

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Speaker 1: a football national title in eighty nine. Ironically, your bears

469
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Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl in eighty five, right, huh? Do

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Speaker 1: you count that in your fandom? No, I was barely

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Speaker 1: a month old.

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Speaker 4: My parents claim I was in a like Rocker or whatever,

473
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Speaker 4: and my dad and uncles were watching the game, and

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I have no recollection of this. I've seen

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Speaker 4: the videos like I'm like burn DVDs the kids even

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Speaker 4: know what burn DVDs are these days. I've seen it

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Speaker 4: that way. But as far as like memories or anything, no, no.

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Speaker 2: No mcmaon I black on your diaper.

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Speaker 4: No No, it wasn't rocking the Ruse headband like Walter

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Speaker 4: Payton or anything like that.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 4: The one, like the one super Bowl memory I have

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Speaker 4: is the Bears cults that I mean, I don't count

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Speaker 4: eighty five.

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Speaker 1: I have no recollection of that. It seems like we've

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Speaker 1: gotten this debate here with the eye you produe faithful of?

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Speaker 1: Can you count the dusty banners if you're not in that?

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Speaker 2: If you're not dusty yourself is what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm not asking you to be dusty if you're

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Speaker 1: not you know, of age, if you're not potty training,

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Speaker 1: you have to be a you know, forty five or older.

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Speaker 4: Are the third graders saying, I you, I you? And

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Speaker 4: they're pointing to the banners qualify as that.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we can get in a little bit of

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Speaker 2: that debate as well.

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Speaker 1: Again, Tom creen can and join us coming up at

497
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Speaker 1: nine o'clock. You've got the Pacers two way version of

498
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Speaker 1: the lineup here this morning on the Fan Morning Show.

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Speaker 1: It's Kevin Bowen, It's Mark Dyton, It's Caleb Zuber. Join

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Speaker 1: us three, one, seven, two, nine, ten, seventy.

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Speaker 2: You open to hear some of this over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Lill Chainsmokers, Caleb Zuber.

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Speaker 2: Let's go well.

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Speaker 1: Now, man, I can always rely on you and to

505
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Speaker 1: be fair, Mark dykon as well for excellent reentries. They

506
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Speaker 1: are a part of the Final four lineup here in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: Will continue to go over some of the events, uh,

508
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Speaker 1: in concerts and you know, stuff outside of just Saturday night.

509
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Speaker 2: And Monday night.

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Speaker 1: Not everybody can have a perfect Final Four like Mark

511
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Speaker 1: Dyton does. Hard to do get into what I think

512
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Speaker 1: should be just two tremendous, tremendous games coming up inside

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Speaker 1: of Lucas Oil Stadium.

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Speaker 4: Open and also just opening that song plays before two

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Speaker 4: forty five in the morning.

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Speaker 3: We got can we get some sleep here?

517
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Speaker 2: I gotta go to bad.

518
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you man. There we were at Revel, I

519
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Speaker 1: was like, what in the world. Once Floor Rider came

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Speaker 1: out in Jalen Rose Jersey, I was like, Uh, everything's fine.

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Speaker 3: Play my house.

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Speaker 1: Everything's fine, my house exactly. That was that was the

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Speaker 1: go to back then with mister Ryder there, it is

524
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Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen, it's Mark Dyton, it's Caleb Zuver. You've got

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Speaker 1: the Louisville Bats roster in the month of September getting

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Speaker 1: the call up.

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Speaker 2: That's what you've got. Get strong prospects weekend.

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Speaker 1: On the show today, you said the dobles foot boom.

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Speaker 3: I was like, are we tanking? Is that? Is that

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Speaker 3: what this show's down today?

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Speaker 9: Like?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I sho make the analogy to

533
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Speaker 1: like pacer players that you were necessarily getting in the lineup,

534
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Speaker 1: But I'm sure if you've been to a pacer game

535
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Speaker 1: this year, you've looked out on the floor times been like,

536
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Speaker 1: who is that? I think that's kind of what people

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Speaker 1: maybe are. Let me flip through the game day may

538
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Speaker 1: oh that's okay. Yeah, when they're flipping up their dial

539
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Speaker 1: flat turned on the radio this morning, you might get

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Speaker 1: some of that. Tom Crean at nine, James Boyd at

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Speaker 1: nine thirty, he's out there at the League of meetings

542
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Speaker 1: in Arizona. We did to hear from Chris Ballard yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say anything to to eyebrow raising from him,

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Speaker 1: it does sound like Mark The thought this offseason was

545
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Speaker 1: Alec Pierce, Daniel Jones, get that done, take a swing

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Speaker 1: for Trey Hendrickson. Once that did not come to fruition,

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Speaker 1: it was we're gonna pivot all the way to depth.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go a little bit more quantity over high

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Speaker 1: end quality.

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Speaker 2: We're going to try to rely on the draft.

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Speaker 1: Again, that's kind of been my thought, but those were

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Speaker 1: pretty much Ballard's words yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that's kind of faulty logic that we

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Speaker 4: were gonna go swing, Like I feel like if when fans.

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Speaker 1: Hear that, they say, well, we were gonna get Trey

556
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Speaker 1: Hendrickson and then he went to the Ravens.

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Speaker 4: So now instead of pivoting and putting that money towards

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Speaker 4: another high end guy, we're gonna put our hands in

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Speaker 4: the pockets and just try to get some depth pieces instead,

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Speaker 4: and then we'll just rely on our draft, which, by

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Speaker 4: the way, we don't have a first round draft.

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Speaker 1: Pick for Yeah, I mean, if we go back several weeks,

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Speaker 1: because I believe it was a Tuesday morning when all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden you had the Ravens and the Max

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Speaker 1: Crosby thing fall through, and I think I said to

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Speaker 1: you guys, like my first thought was Obleep, this is

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Speaker 1: going to me and the Ravens are going to pursue

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Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson, and I think this could very well impact

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Speaker 1: the Cult not getting and that's exactly how ended up

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Speaker 1: playing out. But the conversation for me more in guards

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Speaker 1: to Trey Henderson because that was not a slam dunk

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Speaker 1: for every Cult fan out there, right. You know, there

573
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Speaker 1: are something said, hey, thirty one year old coming off

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Speaker 1: hip surgery. I don't know if I want to dip

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Speaker 1: my toes into that water. My approach is more of

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Speaker 1: this is the issue when you have missed so much

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Speaker 1: at defensive end in the draft. And you know, again

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Speaker 1: when we had crisp Out on the combine, he got

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Speaker 1: a little pissy. I thought with that question there, you know,

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Speaker 1: we could go over the evidence if he would like

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Speaker 1: even more. I mean, I think it's pretty clear he

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Speaker 1: is missed and missed significantly when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: draft at that spot. That to me is more the

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Speaker 1: root of the issue because like when you get into

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Speaker 1: the free agency period, well, the problem with free agency

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Speaker 1: is all you need is one team to screw your plants.

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Speaker 2: And that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Baltimore just screwed what the Colts were trying to do.

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Speaker 1: The Colts waited one day into free agency, if you

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Speaker 1: remember Mark on that Monday, we saw a couple pass rushers,

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Speaker 1: younger guys sign elsewhere, Jalen Phillips, Adafa Oway, Boy Mafe.

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Speaker 1: Some of these guys signed other places, whereas Hendrickson was

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Speaker 1: kind of the one that waited. And then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden that leads to all your eggs are in

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Speaker 1: that basket. And when that fell through, now here you

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Speaker 1: are with an off season that really looks a lot

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Speaker 1: like previous Colts off seasons under ballad In it's more

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Speaker 1: of the we'll play the quantity game, we'll play the

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Speaker 1: second and third wave of free agency game, and we'll

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Speaker 1: try to build a roster that way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I just think that's a little bit silly

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Speaker 4: considering you've seen past experiences how that's worked out as

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Speaker 4: far as you know, having depth pieces but not having

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Speaker 4: those high end talent guys. And then you go into

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Speaker 4: the season and I feel like every training camp we

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Speaker 4: always say there's at least one position here that is

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Speaker 4: of concern heading into training camp, and for the most part,

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Speaker 4: when we come out of the training camp, like yep,

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Speaker 4: that is still a concern. I could tell you there's

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Speaker 4: a couple of issues of concern heading into this season already.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if the draft can fully fix

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Speaker 4: everything or not, but there are a couple issues Linebacker,

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Speaker 4: edge rusher once again are those that we've been told

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Speaker 4: that these are deep pieces in the draft. But will

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Speaker 4: the Colts be able to actually find and identify those

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Speaker 4: quality players in the draft with outday first round pick

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Speaker 4: remains to be seen.

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Speaker 1: What did you hear on the Anthony Richardson front?

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Speaker 2: I know that's kind of a.

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Speaker 1: Headline that ex it out of the ballad and I

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Speaker 1: guess even the Carly Ursay Gordon conversation there.

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Speaker 2: But did you hear door open? Sure sounded like it.

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Speaker 4: He was on with Kay Adams yesterday and discussed that

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Speaker 4: and Caleb. I don't know if we have that audio ready,

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Speaker 4: but let's just give that a listen. Then we'll give

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Speaker 4: our reaction to what he said about Anthony Richardson future

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Speaker 4: with Indianapolis.

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Speaker 9: You've invested in Anthony Richardson last week for you a

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Speaker 9: potential trade on the table.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 10: I mean, you know, I got where his agent, who's

632
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Speaker 10: done a really good job with Anthony and where Anthony's

633
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Speaker 10: you know, mindset is, nothing's materialized at this point, so

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Speaker 10: we'll see what happens going forward.

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Speaker 1: And proud of Anthony.

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Speaker 10: He's had some bad luck unfortunately, but I'm proud of me.

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Speaker 10: Like Anthony's a good like he's a good young man,

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Speaker 10: he's a good teammate. Like when he didn't win the job,

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Speaker 10: that was kind of one of the cool things that

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Speaker 10: came out of it, Like watching him learn and be

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Speaker 10: an unbelievable teammate, you know, was that was fun to watch.

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Speaker 4: So that tells me from what I hear he's trying

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Speaker 4: to sell Anthony Richardson to other teams, say, doors wide open.

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Speaker 1: We haven't heard anything yet.

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Speaker 4: He's a great teammate, great locker room guy, come get

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Speaker 4: them if you want.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I still Don't's how I thinks he'll be back

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Speaker 1: with the Colts this year. Mark. Now, my thought in

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Speaker 1: regards to Richardson this whole time has been this, the

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Speaker 1: Colts need to squeeze every penny.

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Speaker 2: Out of their cap space.

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Speaker 1: So by trading Richardson, you would have gotten five million

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Speaker 1: or you would get five million, you know, off your

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Speaker 1: cap by doing that, and you know, that just adds

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Speaker 1: up the Zion Franklin trade, the Michael Pittman Junior trade.

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Speaker 1: You know, again, there are a lot of cap saving

657
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Speaker 1: moves the Colts have already made, and they could actually

658
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: make a few more.

659
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: But now we sit here on March thirty.

660
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Speaker 1: First, and I'm like, the Colts don't need cap space.

661
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: They've got nearly thirty million rights like that. It's more

662
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: aware are they going to spend it?

663
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 7: Not?

664
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Speaker 1: You know, how are they going to spend it? So

665
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: my line of thinking has shifted a bit. You know,

666
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: when we were at Quarteta Coliseum for the Horizon League

667
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: semi finals on that Monday that was the start of

668
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: free agency, it was kind of like, all right, these

669
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: are the moves I think they will do. You know,

670
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: the Zion Franklin trade had just happened, you know, Pittman

671
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: Junior occurred later that day.

672
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Speaker 2: To me, those were rather obvious.

673
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: This is one where I'm actually I would be just

674
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: fine if they kept Richardson.

675
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: I actually won't be surprised if they do keep him.

676
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: At this point, I don't know if I'm there, I

677
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: would be fine though, keeping him. Like, to me, I

678
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: don't think it's that high maintenance to have him be

679
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: the backup, and it's like hanging like I don't view

680
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: him as like like a hanging cloud over Daniel Jones

681
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: by any means, like when Daniel Jones is healthy, he's

682
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Speaker 1: a starter.

683
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: I don't.

684
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: I don't.

685
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 4: I also don't think that he's gonna out unless he

686
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 4: outright like demands, like goes public ands like I want

687
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 4: out of here, get me, get me out of Indie.

688
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's necessarily going to happen where

689
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 4: he's actually like banging the table like get me out

690
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 4: of here, this, and that.

691
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: They could say, you know, we haven't seen the.

692
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 3: Market for him.

693
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: I don't.

694
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Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna out regularly release him. Do

695
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: you see that as a possibility. I don't.

696
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

697
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: I mean again, do you need the cap saving, but

698
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: do you also want to just do right by him

699
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: and say, fine, go we can't find a trade partner

700
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: for you.

701
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: So here you have thirty one other teams to choose from. Now,

702
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: if Daniel Jones and misses a month next.

703
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 6: Season, I was gonna say this, Kevin, like the longer

704
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 6: this goes and the more info they're.

705
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: Getting on Daniel Jones' recovery.

706
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Speaker 6: Don't you think that's something where it's like, hey, if

707
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 6: he we know, he's probably definitely not going to be

708
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 6: ready for week one, Like that's more of a chance

709
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 6: to keep Anthony around.

710
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm not reading that much into it, Caleb,

711
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: I hear you out. But like when I say Daniel

712
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: Jones misses a month, what if he misses a month

713
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: in the middle of the season, I mean, unfortunately Daniel

714
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: Jones's injury, you know, Carli arse Gordon is the quote

715
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Speaker 1: of well, we paused the movie from last season and

716
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: we feel like we need to start in the movie again. Well,

717
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: if you want to continue the movie analogy, the problem

718
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: is we don't get to the final scene with Daniel

719
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: Jones a whole lot in his NFL career. That's just

720
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Speaker 1: the reality of his availability and some inconsistent play.

721
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 4: So also plenty in Netflix and Chill movies that I

722
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 4: have not picked up and watched the second half of

723
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 4: Pause them and then you never pick them back up.

724
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying, sounds like you're getting to some different ratings.

725
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that that night movie.

726
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 4: Sometimes you pause a movie and then you never see

727
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 4: how it finishes. Boy, nice problem to have, and they like,

728
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 4: I'm just saying that, you know, do.

729
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: You think if we did a poll Daniel Jones misses

730
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: a month of the season, would you rather see Anthony

731
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: Richardson start or Riley Leonard start?

732
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: What do you think the answer would be? And what

733
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: would be the percentages?

734
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 4: Because there are still some ar backers out there, but

735
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 4: there are a lot of people that are I will

736
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 4: say they are also done with richards I would also

737
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 4: say that those people are the vocal minority, So I

738
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 4: would say more people would push for Riley Leonard because

739
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 4: it is a greater unknown as far as what they

740
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 4: have in him. They've had, They've seen so little Riley

741
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 4: Leonard that they would be like, you know what, let's

742
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 4: give the kid a spin.

743
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: Let's see what we have going forward.

744
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: And what they did see was he played pretty all

745
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: right in that Texans game most recently. So I think

746
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: it maybe would be like a sixty forty, sixty five,

747
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: thirty five Riley, and I think that's the route the

748
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: Colts will go. I think they when you know, offseason

749
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: program opens up on April twentieth, when they get out

750
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: there for OTA's, which again OTA's is the eleven on

751
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: eleven period of the spring.

752
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: When they get out there in late May.

753
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: For that, I assume it will be Riley Lennard taking

754
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: those starting reps as Daniel Jones continues to rehab. But

755
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: there is a part of me that's like, is it

756
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: the end of the world if you had Anthony Richardson

757
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: on your roster? To me, he's not this just you know,

758
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 1: crazy Dan Hurley type of distraction or you know, however

759
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: you want to equate him. By the way, was that

760
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: Dan Hurley is the headbut video of the ref and

761
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: the headbutt's too much of a term. Is that is

762
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: the nose? The nose real or real? I thought his

763
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: ai too, but I think that's real. Yeah, he was

764
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: a psychopath he always is, but awesome for college basketball.

765
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: Like I like him much more than I like Mick

766
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: Cronin because Dan Hurley backs like Nick Cronin just bitches

767
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: and moans about everything. Dan Hurley, he's a psycho. He's

768
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: a basketball psychopath. We all had that friend of the

769
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: are that all of a sudden starts looking like that

770
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: at about before the chain smokers come on at three,

771
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: and you know, he starts looking like I mean, he

772
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: had the one sleep. You know, he kind of had

773
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: the suit jacket half the sleeves off, and all of

774
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: a sudden he's just like head button and bumping into everybody.

775
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, just please get in the cab.

776
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 3: He's on.

777
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 4: Uh, he's doesn't have the kids for the weekend. He's

778
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 4: the divorced dad. He's like, I'm going out for the night.

779
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 4: That's what he looked like, full throttle.

780
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 5: There.

781
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 4: Mom was swearing up a storm in the stands ear

782
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 4: muffs for the kids next next to her.

783
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, what a wild man he is.

784
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, I head to head with the ref, I'm like,

785
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 4: how is that not a technical or something?

786
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: Dan Hurley had more contact with that ref than Alec

787
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: Pierce did in the Houston I know, and Alec Pierce

788
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: got the heave ho, and the ref was just kind

789
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: of like all right, Dan, calm down, Like he's just

790
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: like I was his old hat with him.

791
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: Now, let's hope he finds his March Madness pin before

792
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: he gets.

793
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: Down here freaking out. I mean, superre ferstitious. So boy,

794
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: we don't win without that pin this weekend. He better

795
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: find it.

796
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 4: He's a psychopath, but he can also like he's talking

797
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 4: up fad Mada a charming psychopath.

798
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: He is, I would say so. I mean as Christian

799
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: Bale in American psycho. I remember what he was in

800
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: Let me see your business cards, sir, when he was

801
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: in it for that Lakers job. I was begging for

802
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: him to stay in college basketball, like the NBA doesn't

803
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: deserve you. Yeah, we need you in college, but we

804
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: need the crazy personalities.

805
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 4: The old garden. College basketball is getting been up there.

806
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 4: Dan Hurley's like exactly we need him.

807
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: It'll be him and Brad Underwood. That'll be the first

808
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: game coming up Saturday, a little after six o'clock, and

809
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: then after that it will be the matchup of the night,

810
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: which is saying something because I think the undercard's pretty

811
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 1: good as well. But Michigan and Arizona to follow from that. Again,

812
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: in about fifteen minutes, we'll have Luke Meredith join us.

813
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: He was the high school coach of Brayln Mullins. We'll

814
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: chat about Dan Hurley with him, among other things. Tom

815
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: Crane at nine and James Boyd will join us at

816
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: nine thirty one. League note from yesterday Again, we had

817
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: the NFC coaches chat with the media yesterday.

818
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: I believe it's AFC coaches.

819
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: This morning out there, I saw a report that Kevin O'Connell,

820
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: the Vikings head coach, mentioned Jonathan Gernard, who was a

821
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: rumored trade candidate pass rusher, very accomplished pass rusher in

822
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: his NFL career, especially the Texans, that thought was he

823
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: would be on the trade market. I think there are

824
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: a lot of Colts fans that believed, hey, you know,

825
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: maybe this is a route they go. They take one

826
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: of those Day two picks, your secondary third rounder, and

827
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: that's how you acquire, you know, more of a bona

828
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 1: fide accomplish pass rusher. Kevin O'Connell mentioned that he thinks

829
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: it's likely Jonathan Garnard will stay with the team. So

830
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: does that take away, you know, one of the options

831
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: that you have there by the way, that seems.

832
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 4: To be one of the bigger names still like floated

833
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 4: out there that yeah, you would be like, okay, that'd

834
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 4: be all right. But if he's not going to go anywhere,

835
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 4: then it's another you know, misfire there.

836
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: JT tuoymollow out sounds like we're calling him jalen to now, okay,

837
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: and he might be your starter if you were going

838
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: to go play football game tomorrow opposite laut too lots.

839
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 4: Well, then you better figure out how to pronounce his

840
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 4: name in which way nickname he's going with if you're

841
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 4: a Taylor or something like that. By the way, did

842
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: you see the NFL head Coaches photo? Do you like

843
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 4: those those annual photos?

844
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

845
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: And I love when Big Captain Barstool writes the story

846
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: on it.

847
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: Uh huh, reviews everybody what you think of Shane Stikeen's

848
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: fit there blue pole. Seems like everyone's in the blue.

849
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: Everybody brought blue for the most parts, disrespectful. Put Andy

850
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 1: Reid in the back row. I laughed at Aaron Glenn.

851
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 1: I believe he was the only one wearing his team gear.

852
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: A lot of people commented that that was to remind

853
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,479
Speaker 1: everybody that he still has a job.

854
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 4: Robert Salo looked like his stuff got lost in the

855
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 4: lost at baggage claim.

856
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 3: He's in like a white hoodie.

857
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: How was Andy Reiding out front center? I know, not

858
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: a Belichick anymore. We don't have Carol.

859
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: We gotta have Andy Reid in the middle.

860
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

861
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 2: I don't know how he got in the back. I

862
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: know his stykeen next to it was it.

863
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 4: Demiko ryans, uh, yeah, I'm zooming in now, looks like yeah.

864
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 4: And then Sean Payton's in front of him, Mike Rabel

865
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 4: in front of him.

866
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Rabel just looked like a straight out Did you

867
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: see the video of Rable at the Boston College Pro Day?

868
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 3: I did not.

869
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, he.

870
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 3: Got into it. He started running drills and.

871
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: It looked like he was ready for the Oklahoma drill.

872
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's wearing an outfit, looks like he's like going

873
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: to a father daughter dance. I'll go over a few

874
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: more of those James Boyd takeaways from out there coming

875
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: up here in a little bit.

876
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 2: I know you had some predue thoughts. Mark. We chatted

877
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 2: with Rob Blackman.

878
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: Yesterday and kind of putting a bow tie on things

879
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 1: for the Boilers. But you know, in terms of how

880
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: this season is viewed by the perdue faithful.

881
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know, Saturday obviously did not go the

882
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 4: way the Boilermakers had hoped for or their fan base.

883
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: But I was just like, you know, what, what is

884
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 4: the overall vibe from Purdue fans? You take take twenty

885
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 4: four hours, take forty eight hours, take whatever you need

886
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 4: to kind of digest the result of Saturday. But how

887
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 4: will you look back on this era of Perdue basketball?

888
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 4: We had the Zach Edy era, of the Braden Smith era,

889
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 4: got to a national championship, didn't win. It had some

890
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 4: Elite eight appearances all that, you also had some you know, clunkers,

891
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 4: some early exits against Saint Peter's and whatnot. How do

892
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 4: you handle this Purdue era? Is it a missed opportunity

893
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 4: situation where you had some great senior class here that

894
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 4: just fell short. Zach Edy was a generational guy in

895
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 4: college basketball. How do you view this time in Purdue basketball?

896
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 4: Are you gonna look at it fondly in five ten

897
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 4: years for now? Or are you gonna say we had

898
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 4: all the talent talent, we had all the talent, we

899
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 4: missed it. We didn't get a championship, No banner to

900
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 4: hang up in Mackie. How are you going to view this?

901
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 4: I think it's a success. Most college basketball programs would

902
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 4: love to have the success that they had. It is

903
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 4: very hard to win a national championship. Again, it is

904
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 4: a very flukey way. It's a single elimination. We see

905
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 4: sixteens upset ones these days, so there is no like

906
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 4: best teams are always making it to the national championship team.

907
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 4: There's lots of upsets all the time. So Purdue was

908
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 4: on the other hand of that for once in a while.

909
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 4: So how would you view that It's a flukey tournament

910
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 4: you hang the banners as far as all the elite

911
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 4: aid appearances and final fours and whatnot, or is a

912
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 4: missed opportunity situation?

913
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: I'm curious your thoughts too.

914
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, you know, I think it's fair to

915
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: call it a missed opportunity while also acknowledging, you know,

916
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,479
Speaker 1: ninety nine point five percent of programs would have taken

917
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: what Purdue has done over the last four years and

918
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: not even bad an eye at it. You know, when

919
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: you look at it from an individual sports standpoint, it's

920
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: got a little bit of like the Phil Mickelson runner

921
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: up feeling majors. Uh. You know, I brought up Reggie

922
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: Miller yesterday with the Pacers. You know, you you mentioned

923
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: this in the first segment of the show.

924
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: Mark.

925
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: We had a few Purdue fans chime in on the

926
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: text line, Adam goes a great ride but still had

927
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: marginal success in the attorney. Given the regular season success,

928
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: it's Funny how in a way you label marginal success

929
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: for Purdue in the tournament. In the last three years,

930
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: Purdue has won ten NCAA tournament games. Ten Yeah, do

931
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 1: we want to play this game again? How many programs

932
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: won ten nca tournament games the last three years? How

933
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 1: many teams have been to three straight Sweet sixteenth?

934
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 7: Like it?

935
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: Just you know, you can debate this till the cows

936
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: come home. Of only thing that matters the championship, that's it.

937
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I had family thing that matters.

938
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 4: Fans say, I don't care what they do in the

939
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 4: regular season. It's all what happens in March. That was

940
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 4: the standard heading into this season. That's a wild way

941
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 4: to live that You're just like, I can't even.

942
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: You know again, I'm speaking from a Notre Dame football

943
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: fan of like, the more removed I've gotten from that

944
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: national title game against Ohio State, do I view it

945
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: again as a missed opportunity? Sure, you're playing for national championship,

946
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: here's sixty minutes away, But also, did I not get

947
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: a ton out of them beating Penn State in the

948
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: Orange Bowl? Was the win over Georgia and the Sugar

949
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: Bowl not incredible? Was you know, beating Indiana in the

950
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: first home playoff game not an incredible atmosphere, and I

951
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: was very lucky to be at like all I felt

952
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: all of that. The Purdue fans not feel something when

953
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: Tray Coff and Ren tipped it in? Do they not

954
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: feel something when they beat Michigan in the Big Ten tournament?

955
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 2: So like that's.

956
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: Where I can't just live in this world of like

957
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: it has got to be cutting down the next championship

958
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: or both first Monday in April.

959
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 2: But it is funny because we had a few people

960
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: reach out yesterday.

961
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: And I think this is the uber minority, but I

962
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: will mention it. There are a few are like if

963
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: this was the NFL, would we view Matt Pain or

964
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: how the Steelers just viewed Mike Tomlin, How the Ravens

965
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: just viewed John Harbal, you know, would we view it

966
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: in that light?

967
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 2: It is an interesting thought.

968
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: Again, I think college sports are different, to be clear,

969
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: but like if this was a professional sports situation, you

970
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: probably would get I don't know if owners would necessarily

971
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: be as antsy, but I mean we do see very accomplished.

972
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: Had coaches fired for not getting over the home to

973
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: steal the Mike Woodson phrase, Yeah, I.

974
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 4: Had some comments. Jake had said, not the guy. At noon,

975
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 4: Jake had said, grateful to watch this run the team

976
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 4: has made. They gave me some great memories these last

977
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 4: four years. Disappointed for them that they didn't reach the

978
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 4: goals they laid out. There's more to life than championships.

979
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 4: Our guys came to stay and play for the front

980
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 4: of the jersey.

981
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: It seems like a very mature response. Mm hmm. Kyle here,

982
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: a perdue fan, obviously wish they could have won it

983
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: one of at least once. But we did get to

984
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: watch a kid from Westfield No One recruited development one

985
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: of the greatest point guards in college history. Yeah, I

986
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: think the more removed you get, there's probably a little

987
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: bit of that that continues to be the yeah, the

988
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: future thought you will have and looking back on this,

989
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: but I'll go back to what I said to lead

990
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: off the show. When I think of Saturday Night, there

991
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: is a little bit if I were a Purdue fan

992
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: of thinking, Look, Arizona probably beats us, what seven or

993
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: eight times out of ten?

994
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, but I would have liked to have.

995
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: Gone down swinging with our real punch and not our counter.

996
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: You know that first half, you build a seven point

997
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: lead with a lineup that looked like that looks like

998
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: us right now in the morning show. You know, a

999
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: bunch of misfits trying to make it.

1000
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 2: Work here, throwing it together and seeing what sticks.

1001
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: You Knowdue built that lead with Braden Smith on the

1002
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: bench and Trey Kaufman, ren battm foul trouble and fuch'

1003
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: a larn not having a great first half of you know,

1004
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: Daniel Jacobson given quality minutes and Jakari Harris is throwing

1005
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: in a couple threes. Then Couflin Wrinn gets that third

1006
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: foul early in the second half, and you know that

1007
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: might be more of the individual thought I have, like

1008
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: again to go back, you know, to me in that

1009
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: national title game.

1010
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 2: You know there's a thought that I have, probably far

1011
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: too often.

1012
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't tell Maddie this, of like what if Notre

1013
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: Dame gets a final third down stop wetal house side

1014
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: is is the game and Notre Dame gets the ball

1015
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: back and they have a chance now to go down

1016
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: and force the game into overtime. You know that is

1017
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 1: you know for Purdue, I get that obviously they got

1018
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: smoked in the second half. But again, two weeks earlier,

1019
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: you beat a team on Saturday night that plays Arizona.

1020
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: Right now, I think Michigan is Michigan's light favored. I'm

1021
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: pretty sure they are. I believe they are. You know,

1022
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: you beat them and led for pretty much the entire game,

1023
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: if not all the game and the Big Ten tournament

1024
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: to win it on a neutral floor. So that's definitely

1025
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: a thought that I think would cross my mind, Like damn,

1026
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 1: I just wish we would have gone down with kaufin

1027
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: Renn out there, not in foul trouble and then seeing

1028
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: what could happen. You know, maybe the results the same,

1029
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: probably very well would have been the same.

1030
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: You know, is that a little bit more on your mind?

1031
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Purdue fans, you got a little bit longer

1032
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 4: to think about it and all that stuff. But maybe

1033
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 4: maybe to soothe your your your emotions here, maybe you

1034
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 4: can win a chance to go to the State Farm

1035
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 4: Slam Dunk Contest and three point Championship.

1036
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: Look at this, we.

1037
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 3: Got a pair of tickets.

1038
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: There a connection in that, and I don't know there

1039
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: might be, but leave the sharpshooter lawyers in it.

1040
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 4: So hang out there, get a pair of tickets, go

1041
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 4: to that that is Friday at Hinklefield House.

1042
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: How about this we go to the text line.

1043
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 4: First person to text the word dunk d u n

1044
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 4: K to three one seven two three nine ten seventy

1045
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 4: gets that said tickets, kalab.

1046
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: We'll hook you up there.

1047
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 4: How about that you might have another one to give

1048
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 4: away as well.

1049
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: Mark Dykon's spelling dunk for all of us here on

1050
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: this Tuesday.

1051
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 4: Well, sometimes the auto correct, you know, doesn't give you

1052
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 4: the right language. You know, I'm trying to say dunk,

1053
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 4: not dink or anything.

1054
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 1: No dunk d you and K tremendous education there the break.

1055
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: We got to try to teach the kids. More on Braylin.

1056
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: His high school coach, Luke Meredith from Greenfield Central is

1057
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: going to join us. Next we'll chat about the star

1058
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: of the Elite eight and the shot heard around the world,

1059
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 1: especially in Hancott County. Coming up on the other side.

1060
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 8: Seventy to seventy, Duke ten seconds to go, got it

1061
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 8: cut and run through the ball.

1062
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 3: That who better than this.

1063
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 5: Guy get it into BLUEO?

1064
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: I ever saw ahead Boozer that Bocal's stolen Van Nollens caravan.

1065
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: Two seconds, the lungs tosses it up. It's gone.

1066
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: We're poor. Three new con goes in front. Utterly impossible,

1067
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: more strange drama.

1068
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: And with that, the first reported earthquake in the history

1069
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: of Hancock County occurred Sunday evening around seven o'clock as

1070
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: Brayln Bullen's from thirty five feet in the the onions.

1071
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: The app description there from one Bill Rafferty Iron Eagle.

1072
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 1: Terrific on that call and to talk more about Braylon

1073
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: Mullens and his days growing up, and probably one that

1074
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: we'll remember that shot for quite some time. He was

1075
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: the man that coached Braylin over at Greenfield Central. He

1076
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: is Luke Meredith and he joins us here on this

1077
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning. Luke can't thank you enough for the time.

1078
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 3: Man.

1079
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: How are you doing?

1080
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 7: I'm good?

1081
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: How about yourself?

1082
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: We are great. It was a where were you moment?

1083
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: I picked up my five year old daughter. She's freaking out, like,

1084
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: what are you doing right now? When Braylon Mullens hit

1085
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: that shot. I have zero ties to Braylon Mullens. I

1086
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: have zero ties to Yukon. But it was just one

1087
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,959
Speaker 1: of those moments where the Sports World overtook me. Where

1088
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: were you when that shot went in?

1089
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 9: It was in my basement at my house here in

1090
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 9: Greenfield watching it with my family. As soon as the

1091
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 9: shot left his hands, I said, OMG, that might go in.

1092
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 9: And when it went in it was LFG but not

1093
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 9: the regular LFG. So it's pretty to real, pretty awesome

1094
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 9: moment for him, his family in our community.

1095
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: I was reading a story afterwards. I forget who mentioned it,

1096
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: but someone said he had hit a similar shot. I

1097
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: think Braylan had mentioned he hit a similar shot like

1098
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: that in high school. Do you recall the game or

1099
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: the moment when he had, you know, made I don't

1100
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: know if it was the exact game winner making that

1101
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: sort of shot.

1102
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1103
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

1104
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 9: Two years ago we played Pendleton Heights in a double

1105
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 9: overtime game and he had as soon as it left

1106
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 9: his hands similar walk off three pointer, which coincidentally gave

1107
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 9: him fifty two points, which is the all time single

1108
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 9: game scoring record here at Greenfield Central High School.

1109
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 4: Luke Meredith on the Payoff Slickers hot Line with us

1110
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 4: this morning, Luke, have you talked to him since then?

1111
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 4: Shoot him a text or anything like that? Have you

1112
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 4: talked to him during this tournament run at all.

1113
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 9: Yes, I know that he's been bombarded with thousands of texts.

1114
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 9: You know, he was on the Pat McAfee show, he

1115
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 9: was on the Today Show and Sports Center. But I

1116
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 9: texted him and told him that I loved him and

1117
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 9: congratulations and then he took time out and facetiming yesterday.

1118
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: So that's just type of kid. He is a great kid, very.

1119
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 9: Humble, soft spoken, just a kid that cares about others.

1120
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 1: And that's the voice of Luke Meredith who coached Braylon

1121
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: Bollins over at Greenfield Central here and it'll be Ukon

1122
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: and Illinois coming up, some local flavor on the Illinois

1123
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 1: roster as well, coming up Saturday night inside of Lucas

1124
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: Oil Stadium.

1125
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 2: Luke.

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00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: You know, I think CBS showed it and I know

1127
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: locally we've mentioned it before. You know, Braylen's father, Josh

1128
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: played iepuy I was a very good player on there

1129
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: into a tournament team, and I believe he was on

1130
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: your staff at some point there at Greenfield Central.

1131
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: When did you first meet the Mullins family.

1132
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: Could you kind of take us back a little bit

1133
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: of your first interaction with them, and then Braylin yeah, sure.

1134
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 9: So when I got the job here a Greenfield Central

1135
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 9: High School, Bredlyn was an incoming seventh grader and his

1136
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 9: father is a police officer here at GPD and also

1137
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 9: an SRO here in our high school, and so we connected.

1138
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 9: Knew that I had to get him on staff. And

1139
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 9: you know, he's a friend of mine and their family

1140
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 9: is great. Katie and Josh are high school sweethearts that

1141
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 9: grew up and went to Greenfield Central High School. And

1142
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 9: then you know Brayln. He has two twins that are

1143
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 9: col and Clay seniors now that just committed to play

1144
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 9: at Franklin to play basketball. So great family, good and

1145
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 9: you know, Braylan is kind of one of those kids

1146
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 9: that exploded on the scene super late, which I did

1147
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 9: think that helped, you know, keep and remain him humble

1148
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 9: because you know, in between his junior and his senior

1149
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 9: year is really when he kind of made that leap

1150
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 9: with confidence and growing into his body and his athleticism,

1151
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 9: and so it just is kind of awesome to see

1152
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 9: it come full circle and to see him do it

1153
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 9: on that stage and have this type of you know,

1154
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 9: opportunity to play here back home in Indiana in the final.

1155
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 4: Four Luke Meredith with us on the Payless Lakers Hotline

1156
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 4: Coach While you were coaching Braylan in high school, what'd

1157
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: you notice were his biggest strengths and what he needed

1158
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 4: to work on while he was in high school and

1159
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 4: how has he developed that sense?

1160
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think the greatest strength for him is he

1161
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 9: obviously is an elite shooter. I mean literally shocked when

1162
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 9: he would miss, and there would be times in practice

1163
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 9: where he would just get it going and go through

1164
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 9: these flurries just like he does now on this stage

1165
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 9: where you know, he'd hit three or four threes in

1166
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 9: a row and just you know, could hit him from

1167
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 9: Kayln Clark, Steph Curry range with ease, and so shooting

1168
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 9: is something that you know, he always came natural to

1169
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 9: him through being in the gym, growing up with this father,

1170
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 9: of being in the gym every single morning with me during.

1171
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: His high school seasons.

1172
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 9: But I would say one of the things for his weekends,

1173
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 9: you know, we talk about for him being able to

1174
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 9: be more vocal and also bringing that out. So I

1175
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 9: called him, I had to call him BMF that mofo

1176
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 9: because sometimes I needed to bring out that edge in

1177
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 9: him and what he needed to be on these opponents

1178
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 9: because he was such a humble and soft spoken kid

1179
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 9: that there would be times in games where I needed

1180
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 9: him to show that he could do that. And then

1181
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 9: once he flipped that switch, there was nobody that could

1182
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 9: e re guard him. Always the best player on the floor.

1183
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: Was that on purpose?

1184
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: Braylan Mullens bad mofo BM was that on purpose?

1185
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 9: It just kind of works, right, Yeah, And it just

1186
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 9: kind of worked. I don't know, it was a halftime speech.

1187
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 9: It just kind of happened. And now it's BMF twenty four.

1188
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 9: That's kind of the nicknack. It kind of worked.

1189
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's T shirt sales right there. You need to

1190
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 1: get a copy right out. Talk about acronym. I'm never

1191
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: gonna sniff here. That's the voice of Luke Meredith, the

1192
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: Greenfield Central basketball coach, and Braylan Mullens was there. I

1193
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: do want to hit on Dan Hurley and you Khan.

1194
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: You mentioned obviously his recruitment kind of blowing up a

1195
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: little bit later. I know the Mullens family has talked

1196
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: about I think Josh actually been on these airwaves talk

1197
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: about just how active Dan Hurley was in you know,

1198
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: coming to Greenfield Central and making sure there was a

1199
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: there was an in person presence to that recruitment.

1200
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: What do you remember at the interactions with.

1201
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 9: Yukon, Well, their staff is great. I mean, Luke Murray

1202
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 9: was very influential. He's going to actually be introduced today

1203
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 9: at two thirty to be the Boston College head coach.

1204
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 9: But he's great too, And and they were they recruited

1205
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 9: Braylan harder than anybody else. And also when you meet

1206
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 9: Dan Hurley, he's exactly what you would think, like everybody

1207
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 9: sees all these theatrics on the sidelines, and that's true.

1208
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 9: But I mean we went to the depot here locally

1209
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 9: at Greenfield and he ordered an ipa. He said, what

1210
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 9: do you have on draft? Like he ordered a beer

1211
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 9: on a recruiting visit. And they're just there. They are cool,

1212
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 9: they'll talk to you like regular people. They get it,

1213
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 9: they work their tails off, and so it just kind

1214
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 9: of fit. It fit Braylan being out in stores, which

1215
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 9: was similar to Greenfield kind of you no dis effect,

1216
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 9: kind of out there in the middle of nowhere where

1217
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 9: he could just focus on doing what he wanted to

1218
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 9: do in hoop. And then their staff was just was

1219
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 9: phenomenal and flying in on private jets and honestly, they

1220
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 9: out recruited IU just by working harder.

1221
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: What do you remember about I guess I You's involvement

1222
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: and and Purdue if at all there with Braylin.

1223
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it was kind of a whirlwind six

1224
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 9: months where we would have, you know, we had Matt Painter,

1225
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 9: we had Mike Woodson, we had Hubert Davis, and we

1226
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 9: had Rick Barnes. I mean, we had the who's who

1227
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 9: here at Greenfield Central High School recruiting and trying.

1228
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: To get Braylin.

1229
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 9: The greatest thing that I remember is, you know, Matt

1230
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 9: Painter coming in at seven am and one of our

1231
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 9: shootings that we used to have it I talked about

1232
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 9: in our breakfast club, and you know, Brailn's on the

1233
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 9: gun shooting, making five hundred shots and he shot, you know,

1234
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 9: ninety percent, and so I was thinking, oh my goodness,

1235
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 9: Painter's gonna be all over them. And they certainly were

1236
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 9: another thing you know with IU. Brian Walsho's now an

1237
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 9: assistant at Ohio State. He was very you know much

1238
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 9: here in a part of that. But Woodson kind of

1239
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 9: was from Afar. He came to a couple of our

1240
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 9: games but isn't necessarily as involved as maybe Dan Hurley

1241
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 9: or Matt Payne or some of those other guys.

1242
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 4: Luke appreciate the time we were noting earlier on our

1243
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 4: drives in that the Final four setup is getting underway

1244
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 4: downtown here. Any plans for yourself are there? Irons in

1245
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 4: the fire to be in the building Saturday evening.

1246
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 9: That's the goal. I did reach out to Luke Murray.

1247
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 9: I said, hey, you know we were in this room.

1248
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 9: It was Josh Katie, Braylan's parents, myself, and Braylan and

1249
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 9: they put a picture of Braylan up on the JW.

1250
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 9: Marriott as a mural, kind of like what they do

1251
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 9: now with the tournament bracker they had with Taylor Swift,

1252
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 9: and they said, hey, we're going to bring you back

1253
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 9: home to Indy and that when that happens, we're all

1254
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 9: going to be there in that building.

1255
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 5: And so after he hit.

1256
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 9: That shot, I was like, hey, Luke, coach, I don't

1257
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 9: know the appropriate time if ever, but yo, I'm going

1258
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 9: to need some tickets. Still, he said, I got you.

1259
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 9: So I'm hoping and praying that I get to be

1260
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 9: there to support. I'm a going to try to check

1261
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 9: him out on Friday. It'll be more low key at

1262
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 9: their practice. They practice at noon at Lucas Oil. So

1263
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 9: I'm going to be there in some fashion, but hope

1264
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 9: to be there with my entire family Saturday, and hopefully

1265
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 9: not on Wood Monday.

1266
00:53:59,040 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

1267
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: Luke or Driveways philed on Sunday night and Monday is

1268
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: Hancock County kids trying to replicate three two one there.

1269
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 3: That was so awesome.

1270
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 9: I mean, I had my I have a sixth grade

1271
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 9: son and he says in his pe class they were

1272
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 9: shooting half court shots trying to replicate. First person to

1273
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 9: make it was Braylin for the day, just trying to

1274
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 9: talk of the town. He's so proud. We're so proud

1275
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 9: of him. Greenfield done. When you pull into the city,

1276
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 9: now it has you know, Olympian Jackie Phelps and then

1277
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 9: it has mister basketball, Braylon Mullens. So it's it's out

1278
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 9: of a movie. Our real loan Jimmy Chitwood, our BMF.

1279
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: Braylon Mollens BMF. Indeed, coach, we can't thank you enough

1280
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: for the time here. Congrats on all of that. Really

1281
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: appreciate your candor and your insight this morning and hopefully

1282
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: we'll see in the building there coming up on Saturday night.

1283
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, thank you.

1284
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: That's Luke Meredith right there again, the head coach of

1285
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: Brayln Bullen's back at Greenfield Central. Some great stories, Mark,

1286
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: I enjoyed that on many many fronts.

1287
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 4: Not once has anyone said my nickname was BMF or

1288
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 4: anything remotely close. They probably used some of those letters,

1289
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 4: but never describe me as an awesome athlete or anything

1290
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 4: like that.

1291
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: A different b A word probably for me on that

1292
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: front there.

1293
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 4: I'm telling you get a copyright out there, Braylan Mullens

1294
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 4: b MF.

1295
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 3: That's pretty solid.

1296
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: The CBS did a little like two or three minute

1297
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: kind of feature on you know, Braylan and his and

1298
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: his parents on before the game on Sunday. But I

1299
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: think you know there with Luke you can kind of

1300
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: hear a little bit more into you know, first off,

1301
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: they're pretty honest about the late recruitment and they kind

1302
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: of helped, you know, keeping him very centered. I know

1303
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: we played earlier this year, Mark, after one of the

1304
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: Yukon games. You know, Dan Hurley kind of went down

1305
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: that path of you know, how Brayln Mullens is wired

1306
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: and you know, for a kid that was ended up

1307
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: being a very highly ranked recruit, he's one that's going

1308
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: to give you something on the defensive end of the floor.

1309
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: He's one that's going to continue to work. It's not

1310
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: this high maintenance approach, even though I'm sure the nil dollar.

1311
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: Would indicate, you know, he he would have every right

1312
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: to be that.

1313
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: And if you want to look at the game itself,

1314
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: and I think Tom creen will comment on this when

1315
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: he joins his coming up nine. Tom is on the

1316
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: Westwood one call of Duke and yukon Saturn on Sunday,

1317
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: and Tom Crean tweet after the game. You know he

1318
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: was struck by watching Braylen Bollen's body language throughout that game,

1319
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: a game that he had struggled in, you know, a

1320
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: game that his only three point make was that one. Yeah,

1321
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: and you know, for a freshman to be in that moment,

1322
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: to think about all the things he's not probably had

1323
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: a great month of March to then step up and

1324
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, obviously take that shot, but you know, banging

1325
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 1: home it definitely shows you just the type of kid

1326
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: he is. And man, can you imagine what a moment,

1327
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 1: what a freaking moment. B MF and Caravan to toss

1328
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: it back to him. Like, I thought that was such

1329
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: a great player by Caravan.

1330
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 4: Because you would have thought, you know, he at least

1331
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 4: hit a three point. You're like, oh, okay, he'll throw

1332
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 4: it up. Nope, do you take it?

1333
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, But here's your most accomplished and he had just

1334
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: hit one, like two possessions before that, and he's what

1335
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: your fifth or six all time leading sport in school history.

1336
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 1: He's been on both the national title teams. Like he's

1337
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: the one that has earned the right to shoot that. Again,

1338
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: It's not like Braylan had this great game to that point,

1339
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: but boy, yeah, just what a heady play, What an

1340
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: absolute heady play there. So obviously the recruitment's there from

1341
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: probably more of an Indiana side of it than a

1342
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: produce side of it.

1343
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 2: Make you pause a little bit.

1344
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 4: Also, the defense by the duke defender throw throw a

1345
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 4: hand up or something.

1346
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: The next time, who was that sor Isaiah Evans.

1347
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 2: Evans just didn't get a hand up there, just like.

1348
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: Stared at He stared at like everybody else, like all right,

1349
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: let's see what happens here. It's like the shell shocked

1350
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: nature of like I can't believe he just turned it over.

1351
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 3: I'm not given a foul.

1352
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do anything here.

1353
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 4: Advancing the ball to and then none of that. There's

1354
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff that Duke did wrong down the starts.

1355
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 4: I'm like, none of this makes sense to me.

1356
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: A two and a half point underdog coming up on Saturday.

1357
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: These two teams have met you kind of Illinois earlier

1358
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: this year. It was actually in Madison Square Garden the

1359
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: day after Thanksgiving. Obviously that was a long long time ago. Oh,

1360
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: I guess the line's changed. Both lines are one and

1361
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: a half right now. Illinois favoritboy one and a half,

1362
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: Michigan favorite by one and a half for Saturday. But

1363
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: keithon Woggle only had three points in the game. A

1364
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: terrorist free junior who's been very good for Yukon also

1365
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: had a really limited night there. I think it was

1366
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: Mullen's first game back because he dealt with that ankle

1367
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: injury a little bit in the off season that bled

1368
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: into the regular season. So enjoyed that one with Luke Meredith.

1369
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: Thank you to great Greg Straw. I was texting with

1370
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: Rake on Saturday or on Sunday night saying hey, any chance.

1371
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: You've got a little Greenfield Central connection here to help

1372
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: us localize the story.

1373
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 10: And.

1374
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: Rake delivers as always like Easter Bunny will deliver on Sunday.

1375
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 4: Well, is it this Sundays? I guess he serves the award?

1376
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 4: My god, that's catching up to me.

1377
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: Are you a Peep fan?

1378
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: No, not at all.

1379
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: My brother loved him back in the day, and I

1380
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: couldn't have found them more disgusting. I think peeps stink. Wow,

1381
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: you're Are you a Peeps fan? You just got offended.

1382
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 3: I am. I'm on an island here.

1383
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: That's fake. That's you're just trying to be the counter.

1384
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: You're just trying to make this show sound good.

1385
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: This is Team Finnman's in this room and then team

1386
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 2: so there.

1387
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: Can I interest you in this? A couple of years ago,

1388
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: Pepsi came out with a Pepsi Peeps drink.

1389
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounded hideous.

1390
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: Wow, I'd rather come on, I'd rather know Mayo. I'd

1391
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: rather do Mayo in this hot coffee again as well,

1392
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: was still around?

1393
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 2: Turn that twice already on the phone and make it

1394
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 2: a third.

1395
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely incredible. Tom Crean at nine, James, Boy, you're

1396
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: going to join us here coming up at nine to thirty.

1397
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: We were talking about Anthony Richardson a little bit earlier.

1398
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: Mark and you know, maybe the door cracked open from

1399
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: the colt to brass yesterday and saying, well maybe he

1400
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: could return. Jason on the text, I was asking where

1401
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson would rank cap wise for a backup quarterback.

1402
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: It's a very fair question. I believe his cap that

1403
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: would be ten million for this season. I'd venture to

1404
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: guess that's on the higher end of backup quarterbacks in

1405
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: the league. I don't think it's like an absurd amount.

1406
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: I think backup quarterback frankly matters a good amount.

1407
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: Of in the NFL.

1408
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: But to where? And I totally understand Jason's question, But

1409
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: my thought is does it matter at this point?

1410
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 2: Like you don't need money to spend, You don't.

1411
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: Need money for your first round pick, Like you don't

1412
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 1: have a first round pick salary cap, you know line

1413
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: item that you have to have for this year.

1414
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 4: And you're not up against it where you need to

1415
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 4: make some cost cuts or anything like that.

1416
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: So and again, Richardson's contract comes off the books after

1417
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: this season. You know they can pick up a fifth

1418
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: year team option, which they won't do they could do

1419
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: that here. I think it's due by sometime in May.

1420
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: So I understand the question, Jason. And again, if they

1421
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: would have done other stuff of note in free agency,

1422
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: I do think that question would be a little bit

1423
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: more of like, Okay, I don't know if you've got

1424
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: the dollars and cents to make Richardson work like he

1425
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: is making. I think it's ten times more than Riley Leonard.

1426
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: You probably should note that. I mean, that's obviously a

1427
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: huge amount. But again, you're at a point right now

1428
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: with your accounting where it's like you've got room, and

1429
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: I don't see it as that big of a burden.

1430
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 2: No, No, I don't think so either.

1431
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: I think that's one of their least concerns because, like

1432
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: you said, they have money, and you don't know where

1433
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: they're going to spend it, because they haven't left over.

1434
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: You're just they have it sitting in the bank account

1435
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: somewhere in West fifty six. Then you're just like, I mean,

1436
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: are you going to use any of that? Are you

1437
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: just sitting around me?

1438
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 4: They're using it for contract extensions or something, because it's

1439
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 4: just sitting there right now with no plans of using

1440
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 4: it except for maybe some depth pieces or whatever.

1441
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: By the way, if you watch this Jail Blazers on

1442
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: Netflix yet, I have not.

1443
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 2: I've heard of it.

1444
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 4: I saw it maybe yesterday on Twitter, but I do

1445
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 4: not know exactly what it pertains.

1446
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch that. I know you and

1447
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: I fall in the similar age group there, Caleb, are you.

1448
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: Is that one of those untolds or whatever they're called.

1449
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm familiar.

1450
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: To the affinity of the old Portland Trail Blazers of

1451
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: Rashid Wallace and Brian Grant, those guys.

1452
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 6: I've always heard about some of the controversies they went through.

1453
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 3: It's some of the good basketball teams they had.

1454
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: So I did see that, and I do want to

1455
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: watch that to kind of educate myself a little bit.

1456
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: I did watch the Roy McElroy doc last night on

1457
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime that is basically Rory's life and then a

1458
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: huge focus on last year's Masters, in particular the final

1459
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: round it.

1460
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a golf sicko.

1461
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: I wanted maybe a little bit more out of it,

1462
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: but it's a decent watch if you're looking for something. Okay,

1463
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: can I do you think it's too early to do

1464
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: a documentary talking about the Masters last year, like, shouldn't

1465
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: we let that marinate and bake a little bit? But

1466
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: Kevin's gonna say, bite your tongue, sir.

1467
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just like, look.

1468
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: In the golf world right now, Caleb, we need some

1469
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: good news.

1470
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: Now that is true.

1471
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: We need some good news.

1472
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 5: Man.

1473
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 2: I was on high alert driving those roads of Florida.

1474
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: I was like, just watch out, man, get some help

1475
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: and get a dry.

1476
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't thee eye.

1477
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 4: I was like, man, you were all froth in the

1478
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 4: mouth and the possibility and playing the Masters. Like, I

1479
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 4: don't think that's the furthest thing he needs to be

1480
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 4: worrying about right now.

1481
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: I need to think about the human more than anything else.

1482
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: Let's get we'll hasket on Monday too. Sure, let's do

1483
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: that as we preview Little Master's action. Of course, Monday

1484
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: will be the national title. We've got a lot to

1485
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: get to. A Tom Crane coming up at nine, Caleb,

1486
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: but's in the morning checkout.

1487
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 7: Well.

1488
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: Speaking of a final four, the women's brat, that kid

1489
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: is down to four, all number one seeds in the

1490
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: same four as last season. It's undefeated Yukon. They were

1491
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: joined over the weekend by UCLA and then last night

1492
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: South Carolina and Texas both rolled. You had margins of

1493
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: thirty six, twenty six, eighteen, and twelve in the four

1494
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: Elite eight games there.

1495
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 2: So we'll get all chalk in the women's.

1496
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: Bracket here of all number one seeds.

1497
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 4: Baseball wise, Jess say Cubs, White Sox, Reds all winners

1498
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 4: in their.

1499
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: South Stewart for the Reds. Quick keep talking about the Reds.

1500
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 2: Sure sure salstart would tell me about him.

1501
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. He's hitting the cover off the ball lay.

1502
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: He's getting on base right now more than really anybody's

1503
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 1: ever done to start their career with the Reds.

1504
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 4: Solids start for Cubs, start at Edward Cabrera made his

1505
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 4: first start as a Cub since getting traded to them,

1506
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 4: seven to two winners over the Angels. There, Reds two

1507
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 4: nothing shout out win over the Pirates. The Cardinals stink.

1508
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 4: They lost to the four to two. Sell the team

1509
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 4: they're terrible. Brewers get their first loss of the season.

1510
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 4: Two they fellal the Rays three to two. Indianapolis Indians,

1511
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 4: looking for their first winning the season, off to an

1512
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 4: zero to three start, hoping to get on the right

1513
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 4: side of the column with a winds night against Columbus Clippers.

1514
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 4: That's in Columbus. That's a first pitch of six point fifteen.

1515
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: They'll be back at home on Tuesday, I believe for

1516
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: those trying to get the NA trust me.

1517
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1518
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 4: We were digging out through the garage and I found

1519
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 4: some beer bats. I'm like, oh boy, let's go. We're

1520
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 4: getting close.

1521
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: Let's go get a little dirt in the bottom of

1522
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: those really big baseball season as we get a little

1523
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: foamy beer in some dirt. Pacers practice today. They're up

1524
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: in Chicago again. I still think they're in a comfortable

1525
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: spot from a tanking standpoint. With two weeks ago in

1526
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: the season, they could probably flirt with a winner two

1527
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: and still be again in a good position at Chicago Wednesday,

1528
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: at Charlotte, Friday, at Cleveland coming up here on Sunday.

1529
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: We should have mentioned this a little bit earlier.

1530
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 2: We did see.

1531
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: We had Ronald Norrid on the show yesterday. Finley bis

1532
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,919
Speaker 1: probably their best chance at a returning player from last

1533
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: year's team.

1534
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 2: He did enter the transfer portal.

1535
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: So you've seen, as you would expect, a good amount

1536
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: of portal activity for Butler so far in terms of departures.

1537
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 2: Portal officially opens up one week from today.

1538
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: I assume finliebis Jack Texas kid, if I'm not mistaken,

1539
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: he'll probably be looking at a healthy payday out there

1540
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: in the portal world. NFL news to get to again,

1541
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: not a lot from a league headline standpoint out there

1542
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: in Arizona. We'll see if anything happens from an eighteen

1543
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: game standpoint today. But Mark, we did see the Cleveland

1544
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: Browns proposal withdrawn. Remind everybody they had proposed having the

1545
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: ability to trade draft picks up to five years in advance.

1546
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: Currently it's just up to three years. This has to

1547
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: be very much like an NBA rule. The NBA allows

1548
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: you to trade picks in future years. And I guess

1549
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: you know, we debated this a little bit in the

1550
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: opening hour. I guess there are two sides of it. One,

1551
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, the owners might say, hey, I don't want

1552
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: to give my g that much control the ability to

1553
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: trade draft picks that far in advance. The counter to

1554
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: that would say, from an entertainment value standpoint, the NFL,

1555
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: if there's one thing lacking, it's probably trades. So the

1556
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: ability to do more of these trades could lead to

1557
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: a busier trade deadline, a busier offseason when it comes

1558
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: to that.

1559
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see why the Brown's also won trade

1560
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 4: five years. They're trying to get out of that. Deshaun

1561
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 4: Watson del still there. If we trade five draft picks,

1562
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 4: can we get somebody to take them off our hands?

1563
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 3: Please? Please get rid of that?

1564
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: No?

1565
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 3: Okay, did I see.

1566
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: A headline yesterday where like this could be Deshaun Watson's year?

1567
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is saying that? I swear it was

1568
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 2: Jimmy Haslam, the Brown's owner, which.

1569
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 4: They say a Baker's dozen quarterbacks on that roster too.

1570
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 4: You want to talk about depth at a quarterback, the

1571
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 4: Browns have it. I don't know if it's good depth,

1572
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 4: but they sure have it.

1573
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I yeah, definitely on that.

1574
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 4: Somebody says there's a doctor Pepper cotton candy flavor.

1575
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 2: Are we just putting candy and sodas?

1576
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 7: Now?

1577
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: They said there's doctor pepper. Peeps, I'm going after the show,

1578
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 1: are freaking horrific.

1579
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 3: They are. I'm gonna bring some. I'm in here on Friday.

1580
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring some for everybody.

1581
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: What was our acronym that Luke Meredith just gave us BMF.

1582
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: You could change that around to describe peeps.

1583
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 2: I would just say BM bowel movement. What's happening?

1584
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 4: Well, said Marks. The other thing is just I don't

1585
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 4: like the grittiness. Like I've touched him and I'm like

1586
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 4: texture wise, they're horrible.

1587
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Can you imagine Uncle Caleb coming over and, you know,

1588
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: hiding some Easter eggs in the backyard, and all of

1589
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: a sudden he throws a couple of peeps up in

1590
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: the unwrapping up.

1591
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 3: Here you go, kid, what are we doing here? Like this?

1592
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: You got an ice cream truck around the corner that

1593
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: you're trying to sit. Okay, bring not the best, but

1594
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 1: it is Easter, like you have to it is associated

1595
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: with Easter. And I'm never gonna say I don't like peeps, Like,

1596
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: come on, no Recess told peeps to get the you

1597
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: know what out the eggs.

1598
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean pretty good. I can I like both.

1599
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at you.

1600
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 3: That's all that's against the rules, Like my.

1601
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: Body just speaking a thousand words to you.

1602
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 4: By the way, you wrote road trip wise. You were

1603
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 4: in the car recently, right road trip Snacks.

1604
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, we Maddie did such a great job of like

1605
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: we had a six hour drive. Every hour you could

1606
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: open up one of your little snack now again, we

1607
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: had some help.

1608
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 2: You know, we had some grapes in there.

1609
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: You know, you're trying to build as healthy at good

1610
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 1: dial starts tomorrow. But that kind of helped the are

1611
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: we there yet questions? Yeah, so I found that to

1612
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: be really good grape.

1613
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 3: In the back.

1614
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: I won shut up the garnetto garlic chips. I think

1615
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 1: those are excellent. Add some cheese, it's what else? Did

1616
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: I have some peanut butter m and ms?

1617
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a variety of there.

1618
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: So I went through my back Mattie, Well, the beef

1619
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: jerkey from BUCkies. I think I told you about it

1620
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: so well that segues perfectly. You're opening up your backpack

1621
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: right now, our backpack because I knew you know, a

1622
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: hosting together today.

1623
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 2: I'm a little nurse of all little morning jerk. I

1624
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 2: don't know if you're.

1625
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: Interested wo hashtag morning jerk. There's some BUCkies there also.

1626
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 4: I know you're a cream pile Guy's a whole box

1627
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 4: pies from sight unbelievable cluster truck is coming later. I

1628
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 4: don't want to spoil our app nights, but at all.

1629
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 2: That'll go great. The chicken binge, a little road trip

1630
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 2: of snack food.

1631
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: Oh, there's only one thing that would complete this if

1632
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:15,759
Speaker 1: we had Doctor Pepper.

1633
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 3: Peeps.

1634
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: You can find Chase, Chase some jerky and cream pies.

1635
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: Find me in the handicaps. Still there for the next

1636
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: twenty minutes.

1637
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 4: Let's get through the show first before we're down in

1638
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 4: Peeps flavored Doctor Pepper.

1639
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 1: I do want to make sure we mentioned this, because

1640
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: I know we mentioned it in the first hour. But

1641
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: just thoughts to Jay n Ivy right now. It's a

1642
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 1: story that you never want to see at all. I

1643
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: have not going to pretend like I have consumed these

1644
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 1: thirty forty I guess even longer videos that he's had

1645
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: on social media in some way sh'ld perform I guess

1646
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: expressing some sort of homophobic I believe some racial I

1647
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: had just seen some homophobic stuff. Okay, so I mean that. Yeah,

1648
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: just thoughts with him for sure. Yeah, the bulls waved

1649
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: him yesterday. For those that have this story, you know

1650
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: about a year ago he suffered a very gruesome injury,

1651
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 1: and you know, I think a player of j n

1652
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: Ivy's skill set, you know, obviously any injury is notable,

1653
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: but you know, he is a peak, peak athlete when

1654
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 1: he's out on the floor, and I think it really

1655
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 1: hindered his physical ability on the floor. And you know,

1656
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 1: he's been outspoken before about his own mental health and

1657
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 1: some struggles in that area, so clearly there are some

1658
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: things that Jay n Ivy's got to take care of.

1659
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 1: You thought about his mom a lot. You know, she's

1660
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 1: the head coach and the Notre Dame women's team. They

1661
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 1: are very close, very very close. I think anytime you

1662
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: watch Jade and at Perdue, she tried to make as

1663
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 1: many games as she could and balancing what she was

1664
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 1: doing there, and even in his NBA career has done

1665
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: the same. So yeah, I just thoughts to j and

1666
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: Ivy and trying to figure it out. You know, probably

1667
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: more from a mental standpoint than a physical standpoint right now.

1668
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely for sure.

1669
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 4: I saw he was on Instagram Live again after getting

1670
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 4: waved by the bulls doing some rants too, So hopefully

1671
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 4: he gets the help he needs. Hopefully you can talk

1672
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 4: to his mom, get his head right and everything like that.

1673
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 4: But not a good situation, all right, Coming up to

1674
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 4: the other side, much more on where the Colts are

1675
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 4: from a league meeting standpoint.

1676
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: We'll continue to hit a little bit on Purdue as

1677
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 1: put a bow tie on that.

1678
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 2: Tom Crean at nine, James Boyd at nine thirty.

1679
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: It's the Show of the Misfits, Kevin Bow and Mark

1680
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: Dyke and Caleb Zuber On a Tuesday, it's for the

1681
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 1: road trip talk.

1682
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, were you listening to this on the way down

1683
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 3: to Florida?

1684
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 1: I spies the song. Whoa, I do not like it.

1685
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: Now that's a scorcher. Yeah, I think that's I mean,

1686
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 1: ten hour drive, you can't give this three minutes now

1687
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 1: on My oldest was obsessed with the Cars movies, and

1688
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: so I heard this song for a while and so

1689
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: I just got so sick of him, like I can't

1690
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: hear anymore.

1691
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 2: So the second I hear it, I'm like, oh God, Max,

1692
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 2: Max Bow PTSD. He had quite the fall. A few

1693
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 2: months ago.

1694
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 1: We had to spend a few hours up a Peyton

1695
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: manning children's and cars was was on in the room.

1696
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 1: So him and I just posted up watching that. And boy,

1697
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: now that you say that, now I'm having PTSD thinking

1698
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 1: back on, I'm having to get his little cut. I'll

1699
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: glued back together yeah.

1700
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 3: It's all timer though.

1701
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a good one. I didn't get over

1702
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: it now.

1703
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 4: I don't think I was a fan of it really

1704
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 4: before I first heard it. And I'm like, all right,

1705
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 4: now I've not heard ten thousand times when she was younger,

1706
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 4: and I'm like, yeah, I definitely don't need to hear

1707
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 4: you this again.

1708
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: We're calling this the Doblesville Boom Show. It's the two

1709
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: Way contract show. You bought Pacers tickets back on Christmas.

1710
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: You thought you were going to see a star started lineup,

1711
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: and you've gotten Kevin Bowen, Mark Dyden, and Caleb Zuver

1712
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 1: on final four week. I mean, there's media flying in

1713
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,799
Speaker 1: thinking that this is the normal show, right.

1714
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 3: Exactly, No, it's not. It's not.

1715
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: All the national media is like, wait, this is the

1716
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 1: ESPN radioffiliate in town morning show here. James Boyd out

1717
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 1: in Arizona. He'll join us coming up nine thirty. Jeff

1718
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,839
Speaker 1: Rickard our captain. He will be filling in for JMV

1719
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: this afternoon, so John will be out, but we'll be

1720
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:46,959
Speaker 1: back tomorrow.

1721
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 2: So Jeff will have you from three to six.

1722
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 4: Now we're in our break, by the way, and you

1723
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 4: downed one of those oatmeal creep.

1724
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 3: You haven't yet, I take a whole box.

1725
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm only taking two.

1726
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 3: I'm the squid word meme. Did you come?

1727
01:12:59,280 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 2: You gotta come?

1728
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 3: Get met you guys through the glass here.

1729
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 1: I'm saving the belly for the chicken season. Wrapping cluster

1730
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 1: truck of coming at nine.

1731
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 2: Have you had one of these before, Caleb? Oh yeah,

1732
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 2: hashtag big.

1733
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 1: Fan there, I will get one over a cluster.

1734
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 4: If you want some morning jerk, you can get some

1735
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 4: of that too. Come on in here, morning mesquite pepper,

1736
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,600
Speaker 4: morning jerk, and cream pie in the same sentence. Not

1737
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 4: at what I had on the Mark dyke and bingo card.

1738
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,839
Speaker 3: I know we got to get to like some colts

1739
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 3: talk here, but I did want to. I had this

1740
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 3: pulled up at Mark. I I just want to you

1741
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 3: missed this last week.

1742
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 2: I need two balls in each hand.

1743
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I need balls in hands. I mean you missed that.

1744
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 2: I appreciate you bringing that to my attention.

1745
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,719
Speaker 1: So I mean, what the hell? I mean? That was wild?

1746
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: Now context around that? No, I like it better without

1747
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 1: the context. Actually shout out to Jackie Angielton's small ball

1748
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: tournament we did over the past few weeks. Joe's Growing Westfield,

1749
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: the Bulldog, uh, the little Home, neighborhood watering hole, then

1750
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 1: our championship of at Park's Place. But if you're playing

1751
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: small ball, if you're playing you know, if you do

1752
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: any of that, it's all about volume shooting. It's balls,

1753
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 1: quantity of balls over quality of balls.

1754
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 6: It's like the Colts defensive line they went, they got

1755
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,440
Speaker 6: quantity over quality exactly.

1756
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 1: Yes, we need reps. We need balls hitting the backboard preferably.

1757
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: I think that's the best strategy. Are you a Papa shoter, Mark?

1758
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 2: I am, Yeah.

1759
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: What's your form?

1760
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 7: Oh?

1761
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 2: Just as fast as he can, right, So, I mean

1762
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 2: I've seen people go right in left hand. We're not

1763
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 2: following elbows at all.

1764
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 3: We're just throwing up.

1765
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 2: We are not beefing a bounce.

1766
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: Shout out to Tony Brown to remember the nineteen eighty one

1767
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 1: IU national championship team. He was at Joe's Growing Westfield.

1768
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: He came over, he shot, He probably shot ninety eight percent.

1769
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 1: Now every shot he took, you could have done the

1770
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 1: honest free throw count, you know, I mean he was.

1771
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: The form was impeccables, beautiful to watch. But we need reps.

1772
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: We don't need a ninety eight percent shooter. We need

1773
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 1: someone's gonna go eighty percent, but it's gonna get up

1774
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: one hundred.

1775
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 4: And fifty shots. We need high water marks here. We're

1776
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 4: not looking for form or anything like that. Can you

1777
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 4: play that one more time? Killed Kevin's No, please? Do

1778
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 4: I need two balls in each hand?

1779
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1780
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 2: I need balls in hands. I like how James is won.

1781
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, yeah, James in there with the yeah,

1782
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 1: just the affirmation. Now tomorrow, you know tomorrow warning sign?

1783
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 1: You know what Tomorrow is April Fool. Tomorrow's dumbas day

1784
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: of you. I'm glad I'm not in here, Mars aware

1785
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: watch for all the fake tweets and all darn schefter.

1786
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 2: Ian rap put oh, all of it.

1787
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 3: I forgot about that man.

1788
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 1: Pete Thomas instead of Pete Fammel. Who I mean, You're

1789
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: gonna see all of it. And I'm not gonna name

1790
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 1: any names, but I think in recent April Fools shows

1791
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 1: we've had a few dupers.

1792
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 2: Just see that Sidney Swing.

1793
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: He's gonna be the live action Princess Peach and the

1794
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: Mario movie.

1795
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 2: No that came out.

1796
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: No, did Jake really ask Alec Pearson?

1797
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 7: Yes?

1798
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:56,879
Speaker 1: Dating Sidney Swiney.

1799
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 4: He did, I mean, I guess when that money hits

1800
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 4: the bank, accoun you can kind of, you know, see

1801
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 4: what's going on.

1802
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 3: He's been on that for like months.

1803
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: And Alex Pierce politely said, I have no idea what

1804
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 1: you're talking about. By the way, I think last year

1805
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: we had a comment on the show maybe a Hunter

1806
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: Dickinson was coming back to Kansas for an eighth year.

1807
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 1: I think that was one of our April fools dupe.

1808
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: So fair warning to everybody out there coming up for tomorrow. Caleb,

1809
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 1: You've got some Chris Ballen audio. This was ballad in

1810
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 1: regards to the d line. Again, this is out there.

1811
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: I believe this is the lair Overton out there at

1812
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 1: the league owners meetings. You find this on the Colts

1813
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: YouTube page. But yesterday we did hear from the Colts

1814
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: general manager and these are some of his defensive line

1815
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: thoughts here through the offseason.

1816
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 10: Depth is so important in this league. Like you can't

1817
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:45,520
Speaker 10: like to expect four guys to get through a seventeen

1818
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 10: game into the playoffs. It's impossible. So we wanted to

1819
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 10: make sure we added depth, especially inside. You know, Buck

1820
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 10: and Grover we think are still special special players, but

1821
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 10: getting a little older, so ability to add you know,

1822
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 10: Nandi and Kobe and Tillery, we think all of them

1823
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 10: are going to really help us. Plus Tommy coming back,

1824
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 10: which we thought he took another step. And then on

1825
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 10: the edge, you know, having Jalen back, having Lot to

1826
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 10: who we think, you know, we think a Lot two

1827
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 10: is going to take a whole nother step. But adding

1828
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 10: Arden and Clemens, who both play extremely hard, we think

1829
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 10: it's we think they're both really good fits for what

1830
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 10: we want to do. So we feel like we have

1831
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 10: a good foundation. Now, you know, we still have tom left,

1832
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 10: and we have the draft and moving forward into the

1833
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 10: season when you can still acquire players. So we feel

1834
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 10: good about where we're at and the guys we've added,

1835
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 10: but we still got some work to.

1836
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: Do outside of Daniel Jones, more than Jonathan Taylor, more

1837
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: than Alec Pierce, more than Tyler Warren, more than Bernard Ryman.

1838
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 1: I keep on going down the list. There is not

1839
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 1: a more important cult next year, and you need a

1840
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 1: great year from said player than allow too a lot

1841
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 1: too yep. I mean that is the message the Colts

1842
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: have sent loud and clear with this offseason that they

1843
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 1: are putting a lot of Easter eggs and on Peeps eggs,

1844
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 1: by the way, a lot of quality Easter eggs in

1845
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: the basket of mister Lattu. And you know, I thought

1846
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 1: he had more flashes than your two. To be fair

1847
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 1: to him, I have some intrigue. I don't know if

1848
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 1: I'm ready to hand him hitching your wagon to that

1849
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 1: though the car keys as much as they are. Because again, Mark,

1850
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 1: let's play this out. What did Chris Baler just say

1851
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,719
Speaker 1: there about DeForest Buckner. He's getting up there a little

1852
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 1: bit more in age so and coming off an injury, right,

1853
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 1: a major surgery. I mean, hell, he went to a

1854
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 1: different continent to try to get it figured out. You know,

1855
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 1: if you are an opposing offensive coordinator and you're getting

1856
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: ready to block the Colts in a game, you might

1857
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 1: sit there and say, you know, what should we take

1858
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 1: our chances with Buckner? Given all that, and now maybe

1859
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: the double team slides out a lot to a little

1860
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 1: bit more.

1861
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,759
Speaker 2: Now what does that do to your edge rush?

1862
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 1: So you know, for the most part, Ballard's words out

1863
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: there at the owners meetings were exactly clee kind of

1864
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: what I thought they would be of Like we tried

1865
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 1: for Hendrickson, but then once we didn't get them, we

1866
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: said depth and we'll try to hit in the draft,

1867
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 1: which you know, trying to hit in the draft is

1868
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 1: look like Aaron Judge and opening Night. Yeah, it's not

1869
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,879
Speaker 1: been ideal. Yeah, I think that's that's a lot of pressure.

1870
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 4: There's a lot of pressure put on lat Too, and

1871
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, yes, we still have the draft to

1872
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 4: look to see with them, but even still then you're

1873
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 4: putting pressure on lat Too and a rookie or two,

1874
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 4: which I mean, I don't care what position outside of

1875
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 4: outside of quarterback. Usually rookies in the NFL don't really

1876
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 4: show you that much in their first year. So kind

1877
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 4: of curious to see what that strategy is going to

1878
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 4: look like. Like I said, I think edg Rusher is their

1879
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 4: biggest need. Linebackers still not looking great either, so they

1880
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 4: have some major issues on the defense, and I'm curious

1881
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 4: to see how lou Ana Romo plans exactly stitch this

1882
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 4: thing together.

1883
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 3: We're gonna be.

1884
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: Looking to like Frankenstein come week one and we're gonna

1885
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 1: be like, this is the defense.

1886
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 2: Is what it looks like. Let's see what Let's see

1887
01:19:58,520 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 2: what we do here.

1888
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: A Gary Chamman. And here problem with lots is that

1889
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 1: his flashes were interceptions. I mean, there are definitely some

1890
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 1: of that. You know, again, just a more consistent edge

1891
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 1: rush is what's needed here. So linebacker wise, you know,

1892
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 1: Baoer did mention that he feels like there's still a

1893
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 1: little bit out there in free agency that the Colts

1894
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 1: could dabble in. But he also likes this draft class,

1895
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: so you know, he he did talk about how they

1896
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: have hit on linebacker in youth before. He's exactly right,

1897
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean linebacker, offensive line. Those are the two areas

1898
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 1: that he has definitely hit on throughout his drafting ten year.

1899
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 1: One question I would have is the hits at linebacker

1900
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: have not been with this defensive coordinator. And again go

1901
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 1: back to the Zion Franklin audio we played a few

1902
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: weeks back mark when Zaira was on with Jim Rome,

1903
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 1: Zira mentioned and again to me, Zira is a very

1904
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: cerebral player. He mentioned that the biggest difference from going

1905
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 1: from Gus Bradley scheme to lou Anarumo was just everything

1906
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: that needed to be communicated and called and the diversity

1907
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 1: and play to play week to week, et cetera, et cetera.

1908
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: How much of that do you want to throw in

1909
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 1: a rookies plate right at linebacker? That would probably be

1910
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 1: the biggest question.

1911
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 4: Yes, you better be pretty confident that whatever those selections are,

1912
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 4: or if you're gonna find a veteran that's does Bobby

1913
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 4: o'carake still out there?

1914
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 5: Is?

1915
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 2: I think he is?

1916
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 1: Okay, I think he is. That's a name, but I

1917
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 1: kind of thought of Keem Davis gaither would solve that.

1918
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: But you know, again, they do have cap space and

1919
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 1: there are some veteran linebackers now, you know, are they

1920
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:26,639
Speaker 1: going to make you sleep?

1921
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 3: Uber Well?

1922
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 2: Who knows, but you could pursue a little bit of that.

1923
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 1: We'll chat with that with these topics about with James

1924
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,759
Speaker 1: Boyd coming up, he's going to join us nine thirty

1925
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: out there at the owner's meetings. Tom Crean coming up

1926
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: at nine o'clock, we'll get his thoughts. He was on

1927
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 1: the West with one call of Duke and Yukon in

1928
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 1: that Elite eight game, and plenty to get to with

1929
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: the former IU coach as final four weekend here in

1930
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: Indianapolis is alive and well, Kevin bow and Mark Dyketon,

1931
01:21:55,920 --> 01:22:00,599
Speaker 1: Caleb zuber On a beautiful Tom Crean in about minutes

1932
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 1: chat Final four with him and much more. Always enjoy

1933
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: our chats with the former I You coach, James Boyd

1934
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 1: at nine to thirty. He's out in Arizona at the

1935
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 1: league meetings. We'll see who he ran into. Last night

1936
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 1: he had a little humble Pat McFee Bragg did he not?

1937
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 6: He did?

1938
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1939
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 2: And oh look at these names I just dropped.

1940
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: Let me pick them up real quick and hand him

1941
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: out real quick. M a little you know what on

1942
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 1: the deck there? Just steal phrasing Bill Rafferty.

1943
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 2: I don't.

1944
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm speaking to the old, the

1945
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 1: easy debatable IU versus Purdue angle here. But Mark, have

1946
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 1: you noticed over the last week or so of the

1947
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 1: YouTube chat's been hot and heavy with the IU versus

1948
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 1: Purdue fan.

1949
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 3: Oh, I've noticed. Yeah.

1950
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 4: Even on vacation, I was like, oh, it's getting a

1951
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 4: little heated in there. I'm like, what now, and like, oh,

1952
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 4: I you Purdue chatter. I'm like, well, that's the day

1953
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 4: that ends, and why usually.

1954
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 1: So you and I had this debate a little bit

1955
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: earlier and we both I would say, our biggest fandoms.

1956
01:22:55,640 --> 01:23:00,639
Speaker 1: The last title for those respective teams occurred the year

1957
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: we were born.

1958
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 2: It seems like we're good luck. I'm just saying, well.

1959
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 1: If we were, maybe there'd be a few more that

1960
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 1: would have happened since we've been born.

1961
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 2: But no, it was just our birth.

1962
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 1: Nonetheless, you are a nineteen eighty five birth year, and

1963
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 1: of course the.

1964
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 2: Super Bowl winner that year.

1965
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears your bears nineteen eighty nine for myself and

1966
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,600
Speaker 1: the national champions in football rest in peace to the

1967
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 1: great coach Lou Holtz in the Fighting Irish. Now, I

1968
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 1: this is where I struggle with fandom and defining fandom. Well,

1969
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: that's great that there's nice history for Notre Dame and

1970
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: you know for your bears as well. I feel nothing

1971
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 1: towards those titles. No, nothing at all. I you know, sorry,

1972
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, Frank Lahy wasn't really doing it

1973
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: for me. The Four Horsemen, you know, I don't have

1974
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 1: vivid memories of you know, it's three yards and a

1975
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,879
Speaker 1: cloud of dust there, big.

1976
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 3: Red machine doesn't do it for you.

1977
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 1: As a Reds fan, I love hearing stories about it,

1978
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:59,799
Speaker 1: but you know, there weren't a lot of those moments.

1979
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: So let's bring that full circle. I you basketball fan

1980
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 1: versus Perdue basketball fan. If you are a forty an under,

1981
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 1: let's cut it off there, right, So that means you

1982
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: would have been one year old when Keith Smart hit

1983
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: the shot. If you are a forty year old I

1984
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: you or Purdue basketball fan. There's no debate, right which

1985
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 1: fan you'd rather be over the last fourty.

1986
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 4: I don't think so you'd have to I would have

1987
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 4: to hear quite the argument as to why you would

1988
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 4: choose you.

1989
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 1: Are you allowed, Caleb, you'd be the time breaker? Are

1990
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: you allowed to count titles that don't happen under your birth.

1991
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 3: In this discussion of which fan you would rather be?

1992
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 5: Right?

1993
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 1: Okay, you are a let's live in your world for

1994
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 1: a You are a duke basketball for a lot?

1995
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 3: About this?

1996
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 2: You were born in what year?

1997
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 3: Two thousand and one?

1998
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 1: Okay, so they won in the year I was born,

1999
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 1: like a couple months before I was born. They obviously

2000
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: have won a title since that, So you know, I

2001
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 1: don't know if you are, you know, living and dying

2002
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 1: with Elton Brand and you know Bobby her and those

2003
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 1: titles there?

2004
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 2: So are we being naive? Should we appreciate?

2005
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 1: Should Mark and I have more appreciation and act like

2006
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 1: we have fake joy for those titles that occurred prior

2007
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 1: to our burst. I will say this, like again with

2008
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 1: the game on Sunday, Duke and you kind of had.

2009
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:17,799
Speaker 3: A lot of battles over the years.

2010
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,759
Speaker 1: Sure, nineteen ninety nine, Yukon upsets Duke in the Final

2011
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 1: Not a lot of people saw that coming because Duke

2012
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: only had one loss up until that point. I remember

2013
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 1: waking up and asked my dad who won that game

2014
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 1: and he told me Yukon, and I didn't believe. Yeah.

2015
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Speaker 6: And then two thousand and four, like Duke Blue kind

2016
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 6: of an eight point lead, I think it was in

2017
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 6: the last like two thirty in the Final four as

2018
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 6: one of the JJ Reddick teams, and so like, I'm

2019
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 6: sure for those Duke fans that were alive for that,

2020
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 6: losing that game Sunday probably hit on a different level.

2021
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 5: For me.

2022
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 6: I didn't really experience that feeling. So I guess that

2023
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 6: is kind of to your point, like you can honor

2024
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 6: the history and like have admiration for it, but I

2025
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 6: don't know if you really feel it on that deep level.

2026
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 6: So yeah, I would probably say Purdue would be the

2027
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 6: right answer of basketball fan base.

2028
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 3: You would rather be I.

2029
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: Mean again, if you look at it within this forty

2030
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 1: year window, both have been the national runner up I

2031
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: U and O two Purdue. Of course, you know a

2032
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 1: couple of years ago I you did make what was

2033
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 1: it ninety two, ninety three one of those other final fours.

2034
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: If you look at it, obviously here you know we

2035
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:23,640
Speaker 1: talked about a little bit earlier. We just wrapped up

2036
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: a produced senior class. That is their winningness class. They

2037
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 1: won ten NCAA tournament games. Ten I hate to play

2038
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 1: the game. How many years we have to go back

2039
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 1: to to find ten IU tournament wins?

2040
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 2: That's a great question. Do you think we have to

2041
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 2: go back to the national runner up n O two?

2042
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 1: If you add up all the years, you know, Tom

2043
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 1: Crean made it to several Sweet sixteen, so obviously there's

2044
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 1: a chunk. There's what six wins right there? You know,

2045
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: Woodson had I guess if we count of play in game,

2046
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 1: there's two. I mean, you know, like it's just I mean,

2047
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 1: to me, there's no real comparison right less think it's

2048
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: close unless you want to count the titles that occur

2049
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 1: prior to you coming out of the womb, which Mark

2050
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 1: and I aren't locked up in a lot of things,

2051
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: but we're locked up in this.

2052
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't agree.

2053
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I like I go to Cubs games and

2054
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 4: I see like the nineteen oh eight championship banner, I'm

2055
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 4: not like, yes, those are the days.

2056
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 2: No, I have no recollection of it.

2057
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 4: Like, no, I am appreciative of it, even though I

2058
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 4: go to black Hawks games nineteen sixty one. All right,

2059
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 4: Like my dad was three years old or something back then,

2060
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 4: since like even he didn't have a he doesn't have

2061
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 4: an appreciation for it.

2062
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I've said this quite often when it comes

2063
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 2: to sports.

2064
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: To me, what I want out of the teams that

2065
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: I root for is can you create a window for

2066
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 1: me of sustained success? Can you create a let's be realistic,

2067
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 1: can you create a five ish year window where I

2068
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 1: feel like my team is going to be one of

2069
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 1: the ones that have a shot at it and within

2070
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 1: those years they're going to create unbelievable memories for me.

2071
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 1: You know, Purdue is obviously had that with their basketball program,

2072
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 1: I would argue right now, and the Pacers obviously have

2073
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit of a hiccup here, But

2074
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:10,679
Speaker 1: you're not going to tell me that the two previous

2075
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 1: years weren't unbelievable memories, even though the Pacers didn't get

2076
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 1: the parade here, Like going to the Eastern Conference Finals

2077
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 1: the previous year against Boston, I mean, those were great memories.

2078
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 1: And then obviously last year's ron is you know, almost

2079
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 1: cinema like. You know, that's what I want as a fan. Yes,

2080
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 1: obviously you want the title, you want to get to

2081
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: the top of the mountain. But you know, if you're

2082
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 1: an Indiana football fan, go back to the Curtis Rourke here.

2083
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: You didn't get some enjoyment out of you know, what

2084
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 1: they did in a eleven to one regular season there,

2085
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 1: That to me is what I want. Sure, you want

2086
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:45,600
Speaker 1: the cherry on top, you want to get to the

2087
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 1: top of Everest. You can go with all those analogies,

2088
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 1: but can you give me a handful of year window

2089
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,560
Speaker 1: where I feel like, pretty much annually we're going to

2090
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 1: have a chance, and within those chances, there's gonna be

2091
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 1: awesome memory games, moments, road wins. You know, this shot,

2092
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 1: this individual performance, all.

2093
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 2: That I could be wrong doing this way?

2094
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 3: Say that again. Two thousand and six, I was gonna

2095
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 3: say I was doing the quick math.

2096
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 1: It looks like two thousand and six to get ten

2097
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 1: tournament wins for Indiana. So twenty years. Yeah, yeah, So

2098
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 1: Purdue just did in three years what I us twenty

2099
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 1: It just to me rather, I don't I can't live

2100
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 1: with eighty seven eighty And again I'm speaking to a

2101
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 1: portion of our audience. I want to be that very clear.

2102
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: Thank you to our audience. Obviously that is out there

2103
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 1: that obviously are IU fans that are you know, older

2104
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 1: and do remember the eighty seven, eighty one, seventy six,

2105
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:40,919
Speaker 1: et cetera. But again, there are other years within that

2106
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 1: that are super enjoyable. You know, Bob Knight has a

2107
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 1: strong affinity for a Big ten title that doesn't fall

2108
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:49,640
Speaker 1: into those three years. You know, even if you look

2109
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 1: at the Korean era before he was able to, you know,

2110
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 1: get those teams, the Sweet sixteen, you know, there were

2111
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 1: some other moments within that that I feel like you

2112
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 1: hold in similar regard. Yeah, and if you're an IU fan,

2113
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 1: that's saying it's I you no doubt about, like you

2114
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:06,679
Speaker 1: need you need to plead your argument to me, because

2115
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 1: I don't see how that's possible. Banners are banners, Mark,

2116
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:12,719
Speaker 1: I don't care. Have you ever heard this is Indiana.

2117
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 1: That song, I have heard it.

2118
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 4: I've heard it plenty of times. But I also know

2119
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,640
Speaker 4: that those banners have some dust on them. So if

2120
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 4: you're still you were alive when those banners were fresh, great,

2121
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 4: that's awesome. But if you're in our age group, do

2122
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 4: those mean anything to you?

2123
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 3: Like?

2124
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 1: I just finished watching the Soul Power documentary on Amazon

2125
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:33,719
Speaker 1: about the ABA, and the Pacers had a big feature

2126
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 1: in several of those episodes, and I enjoyed listening and

2127
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 1: watching more on again a time where I, unfortunately wasn't alive.

2128
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 2: But my dad tells me tons of.

2129
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:45,680
Speaker 1: Stories about those Pacer ABA title teams, so it was

2130
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 1: very enjoyable for me to listen, get educated, kind of

2131
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 1: experience it through my dad's eyes. But I wake up

2132
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 1: today thinking, man, if there's like one title the city

2133
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 1: deserves more than any it's an NBA title for the Pacers. Yeah,

2134
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 1: and that feeling to me is still like it's, you know,

2135
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 1: honestly burning.

2136
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:05,480
Speaker 2: Frankly, from a fandom standpoint.

2137
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 1: There, James Boyd in thirty five Minutes, Tom Crean in

2138
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: five Fan Morning Show Today, the Misfits. We call us

2139
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:16,720
Speaker 1: the Louisville Bats. It's the September call up show. You've

2140
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 1: got Kevin Bowen, Mark Dyke, and Caleb Zuver. Apologies ahead,

2141
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 1: only one more hour, Togo. We are rolling into the

2142
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:26,839
Speaker 1: nine o'clock hour. It is one of the best weeks

2143
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 1: of the year, and for the first time in over

2144
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 1: a decade, it'll be plenty of fans infiltrating a great

2145
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 1: city of Indianapolis for the final four. A man that

2146
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 1: has experienced that as a head coach, and if I'm

2147
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 1: not mistaken, I want to say their first two games

2148
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 1: of that three run was at the RCAA Doomele's head

2149
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 1: of the Payloft Lookers hotline right now. He's one of

2150
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 1: our favorite guests. He's the former IU coach. He is

2151
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 1: Tom Crean coach.

2152
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 2: Is that right?

2153
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 1: You guys beat Missouri if memory serves at the dome?

2154
01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 3: Is that right?

2155
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:03,560
Speaker 7: Absolutely? Holy Cross? In the first game on a Thursday,

2156
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 7: and then we beat Missouri in overtime inside of that dome.

2157
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 7: A player that Missouri had, Ricky Paulding, missed a shot

2158
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 7: at the buzzer and it put the game into overtime.

2159
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 7: And we've done We did something that I've never been

2160
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Speaker 7: a part of before. Since we went ten for ten

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01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 7: in the overtime and we won the game.

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01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 1: God, what a time to come up clutch there? What

2163
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 1: was I guess let's stick here for just a second.

2164
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:31,680
Speaker 1: You hear this a lot about Super Bowl week, and

2165
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 1: I get the preparation times a little bit different. But

2166
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 1: did you find the break in between the elite eight

2167
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: in the Final four challenging at all from a head

2168
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 1: coach standpoint and getting your guys kind of locked in

2169
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 1: come Saturday night?

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01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 7: Well, I think when we were in the practices, we

2171
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:53,719
Speaker 7: were really good because we'd had a little issue between

2172
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 7: Missouri and Pittsburgh and the Sweet sixteen with kind of

2173
01:32:57,240 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 7: feeling ourselves a little bit and almost to the point

2174
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:03,680
Speaker 7: where we had gone as far as we thought we

2175
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 7: could go, you know, with our practice habit, and that

2176
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 7: wasn't the case. And I think we got shook out

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01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 7: of that after the Pittsburgh practice or the night day

2178
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 7: before Pittsburgh, I should say, we win that game, We

2179
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 7: win the Kentucky game, so we were really locked into basketball,

2180
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 7: and so I didn't really have the issues with that.

2181
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 7: But there's just so many people around and it's so

2182
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 7: much more now because that was pre Twitter, and that

2183
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:31,479
Speaker 7: was pre anybody can be a journalist, right. I mean

2184
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 7: it was just it was all the networks were camped out.

2185
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 7: It was a big deal. And I think just the

2186
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 7: pageantry of it can soften you up a little bit.

2187
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:46,240
Speaker 7: And I think that's why the level of practice, the

2188
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 7: level of your film study. As a coach and a

2189
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 7: coaching staff, I mean, you can't get off scripts or

2190
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 7: out of character on what's most important, and that's to

2191
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:57,600
Speaker 7: go into that tournament and be ready to win. But

2192
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 7: those things didn't hurt us. We just ran in to

2193
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 7: a really good Kansas team and we missed a bunch

2194
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 7: of close shots inside of that game. And if you

2195
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 7: miss close shots and your bigs are around the basket

2196
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 7: and the running game that Kansas had, we just couldn't

2197
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 7: stop it. So a lot of things got to go

2198
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:14,720
Speaker 7: right in those games. But the week of preparation is

2199
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 7: really making sure that you do not get away from

2200
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 7: what got you there, and you keep getting that across

2201
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 7: as much as you can.

2202
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 3: Coach.

2203
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 4: You were my eyes for quite a few of the games,

2204
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 4: as you were on the call nationally for a lot

2205
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 4: of the tournaments. I was making my drive to and

2206
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 4: from Florida, so very much appreciate that you're also in

2207
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 4: the building for the Yukon Duke game. Your thoughts, your

2208
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:41,759
Speaker 4: immediate reaction of the Braylin Mullens game winner, Well.

2209
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 7: Obviously I had a great view of it and seeing

2210
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 7: it all happen, and my initu reaction was to look

2211
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:48,679
Speaker 7: at the replay right away, because we've got a replay

2212
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 7: on a replay monitor right next to us, so I've

2213
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 7: seen some pictures since of that shot that I'm in

2214
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 7: the background of it. I'm looking dead at the replay.

2215
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 7: I wasn't as stunned as you want to just make

2216
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:05,960
Speaker 7: sure it counts, because in radio, the most important two

2217
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:09,640
Speaker 7: words are a layout, right like, Once something like that happens,

2218
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 7: it's the play by plays man's job to just take

2219
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 7: it and run with it. So it wasn't like I

2220
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 7: was getting ready to say something. I just wanted to

2221
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,640
Speaker 7: make sure it counted. And it was incredible. And the

2222
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:23,639
Speaker 7: thing that stuck out to me was just how picture

2223
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:26,600
Speaker 7: perfect Braylan Mullen shot that ball. I mean like he

2224
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 7: didn't hero shoot it, he didn't fade, he didn't shoot

2225
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 7: some cute shot. He shot a jump shot and it

2226
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 7: was just right place, right time for those guys with

2227
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 7: the steal in deflections and with Alex Caraban having the

2228
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 7: presence of mind of knowing the clock and knowing he

2229
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 7: didn't have as good a shot as his teammate did,

2230
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 7: and that assists. As great as the shot is, that

2231
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 7: is one of the most valuable assists that the NCAA

2232
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 7: tournament's ever seen.

2233
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 1: I think that's super super well well said, especially players

2234
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 1: accomplished as Caravan is. He easily could have taken that shot.

2235
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:01,599
Speaker 1: I don't think Teamate would have had an I that's

2236
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:03,560
Speaker 1: Tom Crete. Of course, he was on the West with

2237
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 1: one call. And we're getting ready for the Final four

2238
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 1: coming up this weekend. Let's go to the second game

2239
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 1: on Saturday night, coach Michigan in Arizona. To me, it's

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Speaker 1: one of the more marquee matchups we've had in the

2241
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 1: Final four in quite some time. Does your overall thoughts

2242
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 1: in what I think has all the makings to be

2243
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:21,839
Speaker 1: a great, great game.

2244
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 7: Well, it does. And to beat Michigan, no matter who

2245
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 7: it is, you've really got to attack their big men.

2246
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 7: And that that's what produed a couple.

2247
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,520
Speaker 1: Of weeks ago when they when.

2248
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 7: The Big ten tournament championship is they just went at

2249
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 7: his body and they spaced out the Bigs and made

2250
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 7: them chase on the perimeter. They ran pick and roll.

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01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:49,640
Speaker 7: Arizona is definitely physical enough, without question, there's physical as

2252
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 7: anybody in the country to match up at a game like that.

2253
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 7: But to beat Michigan, you've got to do something different,

2254
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 7: and they're not as good in the ball screen game

2255
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 7: a Dai maris because he gets to that drop coverage,

2256
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 7: which means he's just backed off the ball and he's

2257
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 7: putting a lot of pressure on the pull up jump

2258
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 7: shot or the pressure on him is what happens after

2259
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:16,760
Speaker 7: his man sets the screen. And so the Michigan offense

2260
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 7: is it is at a high level right now because

2261
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 7: Jackson Lendenberg is playing like a guard, but he can

2262
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:24,599
Speaker 7: also play like a power forward. I mean, so that

2263
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:29,719
Speaker 7: matchup is really tough. But Arizona has got is good

2264
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:34,679
Speaker 7: the eight players as anybody in this tournament, and they

2265
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:37,600
Speaker 7: have numerous ways that they can hurt you. They just

2266
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 7: don't have the Bigs they can step outside and make three,

2267
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 7: So they're gonna have to be really good in the

2268
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:45,680
Speaker 7: pick and roll game, getting the ball thrown back to

2269
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:49,640
Speaker 7: the Bigs, attacking, playing going at their bodies inside and

2270
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 7: that'll be a good game because if you let the

2271
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 7: big men roam free for Michigan that they're really hard

2272
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 7: to beat.

2273
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 4: Tom Green joining us on the Paylofts Ligers Hotline coach.

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01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:00,160
Speaker 4: I don't want to forget about the undercard because a

2275
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 4: lot of people are looking at Arizona and Michigan and

2276
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 4: saying that's that's the heavyweight fight right there. I don't

2277
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 4: want to. I think you kind Illinois is a pretty

2278
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 4: solid matchup as well. I want to get your thoughts

2279
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 4: on how do you think you kind of Illinois looks

2280
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 4: on Saturday afternoon.

2281
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 7: Well, people just have to remember and you're right, it's

2282
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,719
Speaker 7: going to be a week of looking at Arizona, Michigan

2283
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 7: and then Yukon Illinois. You can't do that in this tournament.

2284
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 7: I mean you can't do it in any final four,

2285
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:26,759
Speaker 7: but you certainly can't do it in this Remember Houston

2286
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 7: last year had a huge lead in the in the

2287
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 7: in the second half against Florida and lost the lead

2288
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:37,760
Speaker 7: basically because they couldn't manipulate getting to the foul line

2289
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 7: enough and a lot and and shot a lot of

2290
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 7: jump shots and didn't create a lot of contact. So

2291
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:46,799
Speaker 7: when you get into the games anything can truly happen,

2292
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 7: and Illinois and Yukon are definitely good enough to win

2293
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 7: this tournament because you remember, you only got to be

2294
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 7: better than the other team once, and that sounds goofy,

2295
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 7: but that's the truth, and so you just you just

2296
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 7: have to have really good game plans. But Yukon for Illinois,

2297
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 7: it'll be like Illinois who's already faced Yukon this year

2298
01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 7: and lost to them, But it'll be like facing a

2299
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 7: Michigan State team or a Purdue team with how much

2300
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 7: they run their offense and how much they screen. Like

2301
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 7: I think the screening of Yukon, and I said this

2302
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 7: different times on the broadcast, it really hurt Duke. It

2303
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 7: hurt Cam Boozer having to chase around those screens constantly,

2304
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 7: because what happens when you're not used to seeing all

2305
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 7: those screens you run into them. And now Illinois has

2306
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 7: seen that. But they're going to put Illinois through more

2307
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 7: screens than even Michigan State or Perdue do and they're

2308
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:40,879
Speaker 7: really really hard to navigate.

2309
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 1: That.

2310
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 7: Now, can Yukon win if they're one for whatever, one

2311
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:48,559
Speaker 7: for eighteen deep into the game in the final four

2312
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 7: and Indie versus All that length and size and shooting

2313
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 7: of Illinois. Probably not, but there's no reason to believe

2314
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 7: that they're gonna They said they just missed a bunch

2315
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:00,160
Speaker 7: of open shots the other day. But I think that

2316
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 7: game is going to be great. I think you're going

2317
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 7: to see two outstanding freshmen and Rayland Mullins obviously from Greenfield,

2318
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:09,719
Speaker 7: and Keaton Wogler, who is probably going to go higher

2319
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 7: in this draft than most people are even possibly anticipating

2320
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 7: right now. I mean, I think he's that good. So

2321
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 7: it's a game of great size, really good guard play.

2322
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 7: That game at the end of the day, to me,

2323
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:28,560
Speaker 7: will come down to the point guard play of Storyokovich

2324
01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:33,719
Speaker 7: and Kylin Boswell versus Malachi Smith and Sallas Lamari Junior.

2325
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:38,800
Speaker 7: Whichever point guard crew had a better overall game, it's

2326
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 7: probably going to be the winner of that game.

2327
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:43,760
Speaker 4: Tom Crean on the Payloss Slickers phone line with us

2328
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 4: right now, Tom, we're gonna get your thoughts on how

2329
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 4: you think Saturday plays out momentarily. But I want to

2330
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 4: get your thoughts on produced season coming to an end

2331
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 4: on Saturday.

2332
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 2: How will you remember.

2333
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:56,560
Speaker 4: This era of Purdue basketball didn't see a national championship,

2334
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 4: but you had some pretty deep runs into March. He

2335
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 4: will you remember the Braden Smith Zach edy eras at Purdue.

2336
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:06,680
Speaker 7: Well, they did play for a national championship, which so many,

2337
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 7: very few people can ever say that, And so I

2338
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:12,799
Speaker 7: think that team did a fantastic job. I think Matt

2339
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:16,040
Speaker 7: is one of the absolute best coaches in the country.

2340
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 7: I mean, he's in if you're picking, if you're using

2341
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 7: one hand to pick the top five coaches, there's not

2342
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:23,600
Speaker 7: a doubt in my mind he's in that hand, and

2343
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 7: he's a lot closer to the top of it than

2344
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:28,639
Speaker 7: fourth or fifth. I mean, he's just an outstanding coach.

2345
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 7: You understand his teams, understands what buttons to push, doesn't

2346
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:37,840
Speaker 7: get too caught up in the emotion one way or

2347
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 7: of the other of the way this season is going.

2348
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 7: And I think what he did after losing in the

2349
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:48,559
Speaker 7: Big Ten, after losing the last game of the year,

2350
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:50,640
Speaker 7: and then go and winning that Big Ten tournament championship

2351
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 7: and getting to the other day, that speaks volumes about

2352
01:41:54,240 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 7: that group's resiliency responsibility. That they had to like each

2353
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 7: other into that program to get over whatever was bothering

2354
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:08,160
Speaker 7: them or hurting them or keeping them from being successful

2355
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:11,639
Speaker 7: and figure it back out, and they just got beat

2356
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:14,559
Speaker 7: by a team that just had more than them the

2357
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:18,760
Speaker 7: other night, and so that was not. More often than not,

2358
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:22,679
Speaker 7: this group will be remembered for when they didn't win.

2359
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:26,760
Speaker 7: It wasn't that they lost the game themselves, it was

2360
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,720
Speaker 7: that somebody just beat them. And I think that's one

2361
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 7: of the great things you can say. But they sure

2362
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 7: had a heck of a lot more wins than they

2363
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:37,800
Speaker 7: did anything else. And I think at some point, I

2364
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 7: think you would see some type of honoring for Braden Smith,

2365
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 7: let your lawyer, and Trey Kaufman Wren where they are

2366
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:49,800
Speaker 7: honored and looked at together and deservedly. So yeah, I.

2367
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 2: Would agree on that. Again.

2368
01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 1: Tom Creane with us here on the Payloffs Sickers Hotline

2369
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 1: Final four week Alive and well in Indy. Coach, another

2370
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 1: year for Indiana comes in without an NCAA tournament birth,

2371
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:04,320
Speaker 1: without an nca tournament victory, of course, and you know,

2372
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 1: I found myself kind of looking back, and you know,

2373
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 1: I think it's been six coaches since the Bot Night era,

2374
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 1: and undoubtedly it was your era that has had the

2375
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 1: most success of any of them. And you walked in there,

2376
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 1: of course under you know, frankly, roster. Hell, what do

2377
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,799
Speaker 1: you think it was about your guys plan, your guys process.

2378
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 1: Certainly a process that had to evolve from the first

2379
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 1: couple of years that led to success that really no

2380
01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 1: one else in the program has been able to replicate

2381
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 1: in the last twenty years.

2382
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 7: Well, the times were so different and so there was

2383
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 7: no way with what we dealt with would happen to

2384
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 7: build an entirely new roster. There was no way to

2385
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 7: get old or get big, and I shouldn't say that big,

2386
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 7: get old or get really good really quick. You know,

2387
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:51,759
Speaker 7: there was no portal, there was no nil type stuff.

2388
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:54,479
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not even sure we might have had

2389
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:57,559
Speaker 7: grand transfers back then that I'm sure if we did.

2390
01:43:57,760 --> 01:43:59,680
Speaker 7: But the bottom line is we had to have a

2391
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 7: true rebuild, like an old school rebuild that nobody, nobody

2392
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 7: would ever get the time to do anymore because there's

2393
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:08,760
Speaker 7: no reason for it. You have too many ways that

2394
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:11,720
Speaker 7: you can get your team better. The bottom line is

2395
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 7: we wanted to recruit to build a team that could

2396
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:18,040
Speaker 7: win the Big Ten because if you felt you could win,

2397
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:19,640
Speaker 7: we felt that you could win the Big Ten and

2398
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,680
Speaker 7: you could play for the national championship, and I just

2399
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 7: think every step we took was about making sure that

2400
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:30,760
Speaker 7: we were bringing in guys that that were that you

2401
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:34,680
Speaker 7: could improve with, that that wanted to improve, that had

2402
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 7: a hunger, and whether they were from Indiana or not,

2403
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 7: they had the mental capacity to come in there and

2404
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 7: realize Indiana is really special and it's a big deal

2405
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:49,840
Speaker 7: to be here. And you may screw up here and

2406
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 7: there in your life, but man, nothing's bigger than this program.

2407
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:55,559
Speaker 7: And we really worked hard at that, and I thought

2408
01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:58,480
Speaker 7: we recruited to that and then our individual player development

2409
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:01,479
Speaker 7: of just being locked in day in and day out

2410
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 7: to their improvement, you know. And I always saw myself

2411
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 7: as the lead player development coach, right like I wasn't

2412
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:09,800
Speaker 7: I had other really good coaches, but I wasn't going

2413
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:12,120
Speaker 7: to miss those days. I was not going to miss

2414
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:14,679
Speaker 7: when we were out with one guy to work out,

2415
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 7: or four guys to work out, or three guys to

2416
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:18,679
Speaker 7: work out. And I think over the period of time,

2417
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 7: that's what it is. We kept a very very hands

2418
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:25,559
Speaker 7: on approach to everything that we were trying to do

2419
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:27,479
Speaker 7: in the program. And it doesn't mean we didn't lose,

2420
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:30,280
Speaker 7: and it doesn't mean that we had all great days,

2421
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 7: but we were not going to leave to chance the

2422
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:36,719
Speaker 7: level of improvement that was needed to compete at this level.

2423
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 7: And for the most part, a lot of times we did.

2424
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 4: Tom Crean with us for another couple of minutes on

2425
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 4: the Payoff Lakers Hotline. Tom, We'll get you out on

2426
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:47,400
Speaker 4: this question. Two part question, how do you see Monday

2427
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 4: night playing or I'm sorry, how do you see Saturday

2428
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 4: night playing out? And then who he's playing on Monday?

2429
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 4: And who's walking out of Indies champions.

2430
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:57,040
Speaker 7: You know, I'm really not good with predictions. I'm not

2431
01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:01,520
Speaker 7: and I just don't I think it. There's too much uncertainty.

2432
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 7: There really is. I would tell you what I would

2433
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 7: be looking at in these games, and you really can

2434
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:09,759
Speaker 7: look across the tournament and see this to be true.

2435
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 7: Like the other night when Houston lost to Illinois, they

2436
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 7: shot two free throws the entire night. Now, Houston had

2437
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:20,639
Speaker 7: been in the three fifties, okay, and there's like three

2438
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 7: hundred and sixty twos. They're in a sixty three Division

2439
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 7: one schools in free throw rate, which means they weren't

2440
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 7: used to getting to the free throw line right. They

2441
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 7: didn't get there a lot based on their offense. Those

2442
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 7: are the things that you look at. Who's getting to

2443
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:37,080
Speaker 7: the foul line all right? Where the points off turnovers

2444
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:40,240
Speaker 7: are Like a great example the other day Duke and Yukon.

2445
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:45,240
Speaker 7: In the second half, Duke had eight turnovers to one

2446
01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:48,040
Speaker 7: turnover for Yukon, and I think the points might have

2447
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:51,800
Speaker 7: been fourteen to zero in the second half. And so like,

2448
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 7: those things are real. Rebound margin, second chance points, those

2449
01:46:57,200 --> 01:47:00,200
Speaker 7: things are real. It's not just about how you shoot it,

2450
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:03,639
Speaker 7: because the shooting percentages can get skewed by those layups

2451
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 7: or by those runouts and rebounds. If there's ever a

2452
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 7: time that the hustle game matters, it's the higher you

2453
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:15,360
Speaker 7: go up the ladder in basketball. And so if people

2454
01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:17,720
Speaker 7: are looking to see who they think is going to win,

2455
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:21,520
Speaker 7: you've got to really really study those points off turnovers,

2456
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:25,240
Speaker 7: second chance points. Who gets to the foul line on

2457
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 7: a consistent level. Another example Duke the other day, in

2458
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 7: three previous games, they had been eighteen of twenty three

2459
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:36,800
Speaker 7: on average from the foul line, where their three opponents

2460
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 7: had been on average five out of eight. It's crazy, right, Well,

2461
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 7: Yukon got a couple more free throws in the game

2462
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 7: than Duke. They end up winning the game by one.

2463
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:49,679
Speaker 7: Those things are the things that matter, and I focus

2464
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:51,840
Speaker 7: on that more than who I think is in my

2465
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 7: mind is going to win.

2466
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 1: Should be two great ones coming up on Saturday night

2467
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:57,639
Speaker 1: and the man breaking it down for us, Tom Crean again,

2468
01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:00,120
Speaker 1: you heard him on Westwood One and his insights. I

2469
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:03,519
Speaker 1: have been terrific to at the tournament and on these airwaves. Coach,

2470
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:06,360
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Best to the family and safe

2471
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:07,080
Speaker 1: travels to Andy.

2472
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:09,880
Speaker 7: Appreciate me. Ask how did I do be in your

2473
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:11,679
Speaker 7: eyes on those trips? Is that good?

2474
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 2: Excellent?

2475
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 4: You and Scott Graham were outstanding. I thoroughly enjoyed the listen.

2476
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:17,519
Speaker 4: It was very, very enjoyable.

2477
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:22,880
Speaker 7: Ram his next level. I've been fortunate in all these

2478
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 7: all these UH broadcasting positions to work with some incredible

2479
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:28,360
Speaker 7: play by play people. Scott was awesome.

2480
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:30,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are incredible, very well done.

2481
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 7: All right, Well, good to hear. Makes my day. Thank you, thanks, coach, Yeah,

2482
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:35,559
Speaker 7: thank you.

2483
01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 1: That is Tom Crean right there on the pay list

2484
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 1: lickers hot line. You know I I would say this

2485
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 1: even if I didn't just hang with Tom Crean. He's

2486
01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 1: one of my favorite college basketball analysts. And it's a

2487
01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:47,479
Speaker 1: bummer mark that I don't get to hear more of

2488
01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 1: his games. It seems to be kind of a big

2489
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 1: twelve focus, and I know it doesn't he do a

2490
01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:51,559
Speaker 1: lot of Timberwolves stuff.

2491
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 2: Yes, so his schedule probably doesn't allow for the Robbi Hummel.

2492
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 1: Right type of quantity there. But I think he's really good.

2493
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:01,600
Speaker 1: You know he did I you Marquette. I think it

2494
01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 1: was earlier this season, and I just I enjoy it. Yeah,

2495
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:07,040
Speaker 1: a few times he's been in a Notre Dame calls,

2496
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:08,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, I'm gonna learn something.

2497
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 4: So driving to Florida, I didn't mind the late tip

2498
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 4: times for games and everything like that.

2499
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:15,000
Speaker 2: And I also really.

2500
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:17,000
Speaker 4: Didn't mind it once I heard Tom Crean and Scott

2501
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:18,920
Speaker 4: Graham on the call, because I'm like, I'm getting good

2502
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 4: in it and analysis. Like I said, they were my

2503
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:22,680
Speaker 4: eyes and they painted a beautiful picture because they were

2504
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:25,040
Speaker 4: giving me great breakdowns and analysis every single time.

2505
01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 1: I think I've got some good I think IU basketball

2506
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 1: news we'll share here on a morning checkdown. Boys, I

2507
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:34,120
Speaker 1: just downed a whole cluster truck chicken season around.

2508
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:35,800
Speaker 3: The YouTube stream. Saw it all.

2509
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you inhaled that thing, dude, I was boning up

2510
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 1: on my Heimlich maneuver, making sure I knew how to

2511
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 1: do it, just in case someone sideways here. Now we

2512
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:48,680
Speaker 1: got Kevin Bohenberger coming here in a few weeks. You know,

2513
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:51,479
Speaker 1: double the bacon, right, Oh well, say no more crispy

2514
01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:54,760
Speaker 1: and chot bacon. I'm that American cheeseburger. You want a

2515
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 1: little lettuce, throw a little lettuce on there. Excellent. Ten

2516
01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 1: years ago today, Cluster Truck was created. How about that?

2517
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 2: Look at that fresh food, great menu.

2518
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:06,400
Speaker 1: I think the variety on the menu is one of

2519
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 1: the best, So I know you too will enjoy, probably

2520
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 1: in a little bit more of a polite way than

2521
01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 1: I just consumed my chicken seas a rat. But sorry

2522
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 1: about your boys. I love Cluster Truck, and one thing

2523
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:17,719
Speaker 1: I do love about them the philanthropic nature. Twenty percent

2524
01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 1: of sales for the Kevin bohen Berger a couple other

2525
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 1: burgers that will be revealed as well, they go to

2526
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:25,800
Speaker 1: the IU Simon Cancer Center. I absolutely love that.

2527
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 4: Coming up this weekend, your last chance to get the

2528
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:31,439
Speaker 4: dunk dunk Fest right, Yes, I've worked dump Fest yep.

2529
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:33,519
Speaker 1: Saturday and Monday you can have that available to you.

2530
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:37,760
Speaker 1: Chicken strips, chu Ros chips and q So cheese bread excellent,

2531
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:40,160
Speaker 1: especially if you got kids, especially if you're hosting people

2532
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:42,160
Speaker 1: coming up this weekend.

2533
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 4: All right, Caleb, real quick, of course, we always like

2534
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 4: you know what, watch the YouTube chats. You can watch

2535
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 4: Kevin Inhales Sandwiches during interviews.

2536
01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:51,920
Speaker 2: Was I tune with my mouth closed? I don't know?

2537
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 4: And you sounded fine over here. But you can also

2538
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 4: listen to us, and you want to keep listening to

2539
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 4: the morning show all day long and the ride with

2540
01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:00,000
Speaker 4: GMV for your chance to win a pair of ticket

2541
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,719
Speaker 4: It's the twenty twenty six State Farm College Slam Duncan

2542
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:04,960
Speaker 4: three point contest at Hankle phil Tals.

2543
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 2: That's this Friday, April third.

2544
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 1: Your next chance to win tickets coming this afternoon when

2545
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:14,519
Speaker 1: Jeff Rickard slides in the chair in replacement of JMV

2546
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:15,960
Speaker 1: for the day, flesher lawyer action.

2547
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:18,639
Speaker 2: Right there, you go a little action there at Hankle.

2548
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:19,679
Speaker 2: All right, let's check it out.

2549
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's start with the good news in Bloomington

2550
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:26,519
Speaker 1: from a hoops standpoint. Here on three dot com is

2551
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 1: reporting that Trent Cisly will be back for his sophomore season.

2552
01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of questions at Indiana

2553
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:35,599
Speaker 1: about the lack of playing time. Darren Devreez is giving

2554
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 1: sicily there late in the season. But the freshman, I

2555
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:41,120
Speaker 1: think he was close to a five star recruit, if

2556
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 1: not a five star, it sounds like he will be

2557
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:44,880
Speaker 1: back for year two. Again, not a lot of roster

2558
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:48,160
Speaker 1: retention for Indiana coming up in year two. Nick Dorn

2559
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:50,720
Speaker 1: is also one that has eligibility. But they have got

2560
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 1: to replace a ton here coming up in the portal.

2561
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 1: They do have some wings, some guards and wings in

2562
01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 1: this freshman class here, but boy do they need a

2563
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:01,960
Speaker 1: point guard, and boy do they need some big guys.

2564
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 2: But I'd say the sistly news qualifies as good news.

2565
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 2: I would say that's very good news.

2566
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:07,120
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, excellent.

2567
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:10,880
Speaker 1: Baseball wise, White Sox got their first win of the

2568
01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:14,120
Speaker 1: season as they topped the and of course my page

2569
01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:14,679
Speaker 1: just refresh.

2570
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 4: They topped the Marlins nine to four. White Cubs dominated

2571
01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:20,080
Speaker 4: the Angels. That game was over in the first inning.

2572
01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 4: I'm telling you right now, seven to two win over

2573
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 4: the Angels. Yesterday Reds shut out two nothing win over

2574
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 4: the Pirates, so they stay hot. Three and one start

2575
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 4: for them Cardinals fall four to two to the Mets,

2576
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:35,439
Speaker 4: and then the Brewers suffered their first loss of the season,

2577
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 4: three to two losers to the Tampa Bay Rays. And

2578
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,679
Speaker 4: of course the Indianapolis Indians. They're looking for their first

2579
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 4: win the season. They visit the Columbus Clippers and that's

2580
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:46,639
Speaker 4: a first pitch tonight at six fifteen, the.

2581
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:49,120
Speaker 1: White Bean chili. Have you gotten that from Cluster Shock?

2582
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:49,519
Speaker 2: I have not.

2583
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:49,760
Speaker 9: No.

2584
01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:52,520
Speaker 4: I actually was looking because you mentioned the Kevin Bohenberger

2585
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:54,840
Speaker 4: in our group chat the other day, and I was

2586
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:55,599
Speaker 4: looking for it yesterday.

2587
01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:56,840
Speaker 2: It was going to be my order today.

2588
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:57,599
Speaker 3: But it's not on the map.

2589
01:52:57,760 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 1: It's coming, I think, I think mid to late April

2590
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 1: and then all through the month of May. So I

2591
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 1: have to get through the Masters first, you do. But

2592
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:06,360
Speaker 1: the Pimento Chief sandwich is gonna pop up there, cluster truck.

2593
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:07,960
Speaker 3: All right, I wait with baited breath.

2594
01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:10,240
Speaker 1: Speaking of waiting, we'll wait a few days for the

2595
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 1: women's Final four, but we know it'll be all one

2596
01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:16,080
Speaker 1: seeds and the four teams we saw last year actually

2597
01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 1: the first time since I think they said twenty seventeen,

2598
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:23,639
Speaker 1: maybe twenty eighteen. That does seem bad. All the one

2599
01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:25,760
Speaker 1: seeds make it. I would have thought we would have

2600
01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:28,920
Speaker 1: we had that sooner. I guess Caitlin Clark's Iowa teams

2601
01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:30,639
Speaker 1: weren't always the one seed and they got on a run.

2602
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 1: But Yukon South Carolina UCLA in Texas, that's what you're

2603
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 1: looking at from a women's bracket. None of the Laitia

2604
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:39,559
Speaker 1: games were close at all. We mentioned transfer portal. Trent

2605
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 1: Sicily reportedly back to IU Finley Bizjack Butler, I'd say

2606
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 1: probably their second best player behind Michael Jai. This year

2607
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:49,600
Speaker 1: he is entering the portal. I think he's flirted with

2608
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:52,600
Speaker 1: it years past Texas kids, so we'll see where he

2609
01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 1: ends up in the portal there for Butler, final four

2610
01:53:57,320 --> 01:54:01,720
Speaker 1: events really get started. I guess Thursday you'll have the

2611
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 1: NIT semi finals coming up at Hinkle. From a free standpoint,

2612
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:07,519
Speaker 1: not only do you have concerts to going on just

2613
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:11,639
Speaker 1: south of here, but mark that Friday open practice. Tom

2614
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 1: Green touched on it right there. We heard Luke Meredith

2615
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:17,160
Speaker 1: Braylan Mullens high school coach at the eight o'clock hour.

2616
01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 1: Those are free and I believe it's free parking at

2617
01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:23,280
Speaker 1: Lucas Oil Stadium on Friday, So I think Luke said,

2618
01:54:23,320 --> 01:54:26,000
Speaker 1: noon is when Yukon starts their practice over there at

2619
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 1: Lucas Oil. So those are free to the public here

2620
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:31,920
Speaker 1: coming up on Friday. If I remember correctly, pretty much

2621
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 1: they go back to back, back to back to back

2622
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:36,280
Speaker 1: to back, all four of those teams over there for

2623
01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:39,040
Speaker 1: their open practices. We'll have Sarah Meyer, the Great Sarah Meyer,

2624
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 1: joining us on the from the India Sports Corp. This

2625
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:46,720
Speaker 1: time tomorrow. She will be chatting about all the fan

2626
01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 1: related events to the Final four coming up this weekend.

2627
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 1: Pacers got nothing today, they got a practice, I should say.

2628
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 1: Then they're off Chicago. They've got the Bulls coming up

2629
01:54:56,240 --> 01:55:00,200
Speaker 1: tomorrow at the Hornets Friday, at the Calves on Sunday.

2630
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:02,600
Speaker 1: And really that's about it.

2631
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:04,600
Speaker 4: I was gonna say a NFL is announced that the

2632
01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 4: usually I feel like they're scrambling for Hard Knocks teams

2633
01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:11,720
Speaker 4: for the Training Camp edition. Seattle Seahawks, defending Super Bowl champs,

2634
01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:14,839
Speaker 4: going to be the Hard Knocks training camp team this summer.

2635
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:18,960
Speaker 1: So there you go. It'll be on August on HBO Max. Interesting,

2636
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:21,200
Speaker 1: they've already announced the Patriots in twenty twenty seven.

2637
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 4: I like, how are they announcing these teams right out

2638
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 4: of the gate. I thought there's parameters.

2639
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 1: But I guess and I thought they I think this,

2640
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:29,840
Speaker 1: so they used to do it. Wasn't it like you

2641
01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 1: had to do a non playoff team? Was that a thing?

2642
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:34,280
Speaker 3: Or am I imagining that?

2643
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:37,000
Speaker 1: I think the previous rules were this, if you were

2644
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:39,919
Speaker 1: a non playoff team but your head coach was returning

2645
01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:44,080
Speaker 1: for another season, you were eligible to be picked. Now

2646
01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 1: you can always volunteer yourself for hard knocks. Sure, So

2647
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's what's happening here, but basically,

2648
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:52,040
Speaker 1: for example, the Colts could have been picked this year

2649
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:54,840
Speaker 1: they missed the playoffs, but Chain Stikeen is not a

2650
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:55,440
Speaker 1: new head coach.

2651
01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:57,760
Speaker 2: They would fall into that category.

2652
01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, so instead you get the you get the Seahawks

2653
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 4: this year, and I guess the Patriots in twenty twenty seven.

2654
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:05,800
Speaker 4: So they're already lining up teams now in season wise,

2655
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 4: who knows what they're doing. Seem to be doing divisional teams.

2656
01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:11,680
Speaker 4: So maybe the Colts appear if they do an AFC South,

2657
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:14,720
Speaker 4: you know, run around in the end season one.

2658
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:15,240
Speaker 3: So we'll see.

2659
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:16,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say

2660
01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 1: Colts fans are probably content with no hard you're saying

2661
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 1: the AFC South might not be the draw that they're

2662
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 1: hoping for it.

2663
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:22,920
Speaker 3: They might go elsewhere.

2664
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 1: I think the Colts have had their hard knocks history,

2665
01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 1: and frankly they're trying to create some new history in

2666
01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:28,800
Speaker 1: the month of January than what they.

2667
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 2: Have here in yours past.

2668
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:32,560
Speaker 1: Speaking of all that, James Boyd, he's gonna join us

2669
01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 1: live from Arizona.

2670
01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 2: We appreciate him waking up early. Did hear from Chris

2671
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 2: Ballard yesterday?

2672
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:40,120
Speaker 1: Shane Stikeen later today, will chat with one of our own,

2673
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:45,360
Speaker 1: James Boyd. Coming up next faking to Tom Crean for

2674
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 1: the insight. As always, that'll be up on the podcast.

2675
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 1: We add Luke Meredith, the high school coach of Braylan Mullens.

2676
01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:56,520
Speaker 1: Fun insight from him on kind of the Braylan Mullens story.

2677
01:56:56,560 --> 01:56:59,360
Speaker 1: The recruitment of Braylan Mullens, I know, is always a

2678
01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:02,440
Speaker 1: polarizing here in this state. So that'll be up on

2679
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 1: the podcast as well. It is the show of the Misfits.

2680
01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 1: We have our captain not with us this morning. That

2681
01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 1: would be Jeff Rickard. You'll hear him three to six

2682
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 1: actually this afternoon filling in for JMV. And we don't

2683
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:18,720
Speaker 1: have our rising King of All Media either.

2684
01:57:20,040 --> 01:57:23,680
Speaker 4: Very disappointing. I feel like we're, you know, we're floating

2685
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:26,200
Speaker 4: without an anchor right now. We are we are wealth

2686
01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:29,640
Speaker 4: taking on waves, taking on water. Floating would be maybe

2687
01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 4: not the best statement. I think we're struggling right now.

2688
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:34,680
Speaker 1: We are swimming upstream, but we're the ss minow in Jaws,

2689
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:37,600
Speaker 1: and the shark is barreling towards us. I believe he

2690
01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:39,520
Speaker 1: is here, and he's probably like, dude, why the hell

2691
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:41,000
Speaker 1: are you guys trying to make jokes right now? I

2692
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:43,160
Speaker 1: got crusty eyes. This is the last thing I want

2693
01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 1: to be doing. James Boyd's a good human, so he's

2694
01:57:45,160 --> 01:57:47,920
Speaker 1: joined us here. You think he's got to take on Peeps?

2695
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:51,240
Speaker 1: Oh yes, okay, so James, before we even get into

2696
01:57:51,240 --> 01:57:53,240
Speaker 1: any of the nitty gritty with the colts, are you

2697
01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 1: a Peeps fan? Trash?

2698
01:57:56,120 --> 01:58:00,360
Speaker 3: Absolute? Thank you? Okay? Caleb. Caleb is on an eye island.

2699
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 3: He can kick rock.

2700
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:04,920
Speaker 1: My goodness, James, James, that's all we needed. Man head

2701
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:07,120
Speaker 1: back to bed before the breakfast.

2702
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:07,640
Speaker 9: That was a.

2703
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:10,680
Speaker 3: No Caleb.

2704
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:13,120
Speaker 4: Caleb was standing on the mountaintop saying he was not

2705
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:14,920
Speaker 4: alone on this, and I was like, I think you are.

2706
01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:19,160
Speaker 4: I think you were very much. They're disgusting texture wise

2707
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:22,520
Speaker 4: and just taste. No, thank you, your your lips and

2708
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 4: tongue with crazy colors.

2709
01:58:24,160 --> 01:58:25,600
Speaker 1: At the end, he said he was gonna go pick

2710
01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:29,960
Speaker 1: up some some what is it doctor, doctor? Somebody said

2711
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:32,240
Speaker 1: in the chat. So I'm gonna try those after the show.

2712
01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:35,600
Speaker 1: I can save some for you Friday, James, I mean,

2713
01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:36,280
Speaker 1: come on.

2714
01:58:36,320 --> 01:58:38,120
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, don't poison me.

2715
01:58:38,440 --> 01:58:40,840
Speaker 2: No, I'm calling a cardiologist for Caleb.

2716
01:58:41,200 --> 01:58:43,400
Speaker 1: The last time Caleb gets an invite with James to

2717
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:47,200
Speaker 1: a pacer game, he's bringing those out of his pocket here, Uh,

2718
01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 1: James Boyd from the Athletic Okay, James, you heard from

2719
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 1: Chris Bout yesterday. Is the Shane Stiken is the AFC

2720
01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 1: Coaches breakfast today?

2721
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 3: Is that right?

2722
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:56,440
Speaker 2: Schedule wise, Yeah.

2723
01:58:56,280 --> 01:58:57,080
Speaker 3: It's about an hour.

2724
01:58:57,160 --> 01:58:59,880
Speaker 5: I'll head over to the other very fancy hotel that

2725
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:01,760
Speaker 5: I cannot afford, and that's what we'll talk to the

2726
01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:02,360
Speaker 5: same sisons.

2727
01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:06,280
Speaker 1: Okay, Ballard Wise from yesterday, the gist of it was,

2728
01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:11,440
Speaker 1: we tried, wanted to pursue, did pursue Trey Hendrickson And

2729
01:59:11,480 --> 01:59:13,760
Speaker 1: when that didn't work out, we decided to pivot to depth.

2730
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:15,680
Speaker 1: Is that kind of the gist of the you know,

2731
01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:17,959
Speaker 1: big picture storylines for the Colts this offseason.

2732
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:22,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. And you know, in typical Chris Ballard fashion,

2733
01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:24,720
Speaker 5: which in fairness to him, ever, Regina was going to say,

2734
01:59:25,120 --> 01:59:27,120
Speaker 5: you know, we're improving, we like what we did. They're

2735
01:59:27,120 --> 01:59:28,480
Speaker 5: not going to come out and say, you know, well,

2736
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:30,840
Speaker 5: we're actually not doing exactly what we wish we could.

2737
01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:34,400
Speaker 5: But yeah, it sounded like they were in on Trey Hendercent.

2738
01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:38,200
Speaker 5: He confirmed that, but at the same time, there hasn't been,

2739
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:41,640
Speaker 5: in my opinion, an adequate replacement to that level of

2740
01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:45,040
Speaker 5: player or that caliber of player. Depth is great, but

2741
01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:48,320
Speaker 5: arden Key Michael clements two guys he praised and said, hey,

2742
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:51,400
Speaker 5: we need their toughness, ingredients and energy. Those guys to

2743
01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:53,840
Speaker 5: me aren't going to be needle movers when it comes

2744
01:59:53,880 --> 01:59:56,560
Speaker 5: to getting to the quarterback, especially if you look at

2745
01:59:56,800 --> 01:59:59,640
Speaker 5: from a hole just how the NFL works, you might

2746
01:59:59,720 --> 02:00:01,920
Speaker 5: need dude. I know, he referenced, you know, when they

2747
02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:05,040
Speaker 5: said the single season stack record for the team a

2748
02:00:05,080 --> 02:00:07,280
Speaker 5: few years ago, that was kind of a committee. But

2749
02:00:07,400 --> 02:00:09,920
Speaker 5: at the same time that was also I believe one

2750
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:11,360
Speaker 5: of their worst years when it comes to a point

2751
02:00:11,400 --> 02:00:14,040
Speaker 5: standpoint on defense giving up a lot of points.

2752
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:16,480
Speaker 4: James and we were talking about it a little earlier

2753
02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:19,880
Speaker 4: with missing on Hendrickson in free agency and then not

2754
02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:22,600
Speaker 4: really having a backup plan. You're kind of putting a

2755
02:00:22,640 --> 02:00:25,320
Speaker 4: whole lot of pressure on lots to kind of carry

2756
02:00:25,360 --> 02:00:28,880
Speaker 4: the load here as DeForest Buckner's coming off major next

2757
02:00:28,920 --> 02:00:32,120
Speaker 4: surgery and all that. Are you confident, I mean, if

2758
02:00:32,160 --> 02:00:34,880
Speaker 4: you're Chris Ballard, obviously he is confidence that Lots two

2759
02:00:34,920 --> 02:00:36,840
Speaker 4: can take up this load. Are you confident that Lots

2760
02:00:36,840 --> 02:00:38,600
Speaker 4: two can can carry this much?

2761
02:00:40,520 --> 02:00:42,920
Speaker 5: I'm not as confident, But also I feel like I'm

2762
02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:45,520
Speaker 5: a pessimist, so maybe I need to be a little

2763
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:47,880
Speaker 5: more optimistic. But he did say, hey, you know, last

2764
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:50,080
Speaker 5: two lots who is trending in the right direction. He

2765
02:00:50,160 --> 02:00:52,240
Speaker 5: had eight and a half stacks last year, he was

2766
02:00:52,280 --> 02:00:54,240
Speaker 5: closed on a few more. We believe he can be

2767
02:00:54,400 --> 02:00:57,280
Speaker 5: a double digit sacked guy. But my thing is, even

2768
02:00:57,320 --> 02:01:00,920
Speaker 5: if he is, what about the other side of the

2769
02:01:01,000 --> 02:01:03,879
Speaker 5: pass rush, what about the other side of the defensive line?

2770
02:01:04,040 --> 02:01:06,280
Speaker 5: How was that going to help things for laout two?

2771
02:01:06,360 --> 02:01:08,720
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, even if he comes a better player

2772
02:01:09,200 --> 02:01:11,040
Speaker 5: that's still one player you have to account for on

2773
02:01:11,080 --> 02:01:14,280
Speaker 5: the edge as a game wrecker versus some other guys who, again,

2774
02:01:14,320 --> 02:01:16,440
Speaker 5: they're fine players as death pieces, but they're just not

2775
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:20,160
Speaker 5: game changers. So we'll see if the draft, perhaps, you know,

2776
02:01:20,200 --> 02:01:23,880
Speaker 5: offers some solutions. He also mentioned JT. Tuoy Molowau as

2777
02:01:23,880 --> 02:01:26,320
Speaker 5: a piece that they're looking to build on and said that, hey,

2778
02:01:26,400 --> 02:01:28,600
Speaker 5: he could be a really good player for us. But again,

2779
02:01:28,640 --> 02:01:30,960
Speaker 5: that's a guy who was a healthy scratch a few

2780
02:01:30,960 --> 02:01:33,000
Speaker 5: times last year and only played I think twenty four

2781
02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:35,440
Speaker 5: percent of the team's defensive snaps when he did play

2782
02:01:35,440 --> 02:01:35,920
Speaker 5: in games.

2783
02:01:37,240 --> 02:01:39,800
Speaker 4: James Boyd joining us on the Payloffs LCAs hotline out

2784
02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:44,120
Speaker 4: in glorious Arizona, probably sipping a nice, you know, nice

2785
02:01:44,120 --> 02:01:46,040
Speaker 4: little morning tea or something like that.

2786
02:01:46,400 --> 02:01:48,840
Speaker 2: By the way, what is the pulp in the orange shoes?

2787
02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:49,240
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2788
02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:49,640
Speaker 2: You know it?

2789
02:01:50,080 --> 02:01:53,800
Speaker 1: Real quick? Side sidebar here? What were these breakfasts with

2790
02:01:53,840 --> 02:01:55,720
Speaker 1: the coaches and stuff like? Are these like the Masters

2791
02:01:55,760 --> 02:01:58,320
Speaker 1: dinners where they're like a specific thing or is it

2792
02:01:58,400 --> 02:02:01,200
Speaker 1: like biscuits and gravy and like bacon and all that.

2793
02:02:01,240 --> 02:02:01,800
Speaker 3: I'll la carte.

2794
02:02:02,000 --> 02:02:03,760
Speaker 1: What are we looking at here on the breakfast spread?

2795
02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:04,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2796
02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:07,760
Speaker 5: I would say for the media and our breakfast that

2797
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:09,360
Speaker 5: we get is not the same as the one that

2798
02:02:09,440 --> 02:02:12,680
Speaker 5: carly erse Gordon is probably eating this morning. But you

2799
02:02:12,720 --> 02:02:14,840
Speaker 5: know it's typical, hey ma, if you don't it's a

2800
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:18,840
Speaker 5: few muffins and some bacon, hopefully no lips bacon. Kevin.

2801
02:02:19,200 --> 02:02:24,720
Speaker 5: But last night was the annual media party slash you know,

2802
02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:27,240
Speaker 5: everybody comings party, so you had all the coaches, their gems,

2803
02:02:27,280 --> 02:02:30,360
Speaker 5: their families, a couple of players. Odell Beckham Junior was

2804
02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:33,720
Speaker 5: out there yesterday and the food at that was immaculate.

2805
02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:35,560
Speaker 5: I definitely ate a lot more. I probably should have,

2806
02:02:35,680 --> 02:02:37,720
Speaker 5: but again, I'll think it to myself. I will not

2807
02:02:37,760 --> 02:02:39,880
Speaker 5: be paying for anything like this in the near future,

2808
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:41,120
Speaker 5: so get it. Why it's free?

2809
02:02:41,280 --> 02:02:44,080
Speaker 3: Yes, this way from mister Boyd.

2810
02:02:44,240 --> 02:02:47,960
Speaker 1: What was this the anniversary of you almost tripping Serena Williams.

2811
02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:50,480
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I definitely had the head on the twiol

2812
02:02:50,520 --> 02:02:52,440
Speaker 5: this year, Kevin. And I'll stick to myself all right.

2813
02:02:52,440 --> 02:02:54,840
Speaker 5: If anybody has their back turn, you know, just make

2814
02:02:54,880 --> 02:02:57,280
Speaker 5: sure you look a little bit to make sure they're

2815
02:02:57,360 --> 02:03:00,120
Speaker 5: not exactly the goat before you act the to move.

2816
02:03:00,200 --> 02:03:02,840
Speaker 4: Your way all right sidebar over back to this Chris

2817
02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:06,160
Speaker 4: Ballard discussion, he talked about Anthony Richardson kind of left

2818
02:03:06,200 --> 02:03:08,600
Speaker 4: the door open as far as him being on the

2819
02:03:08,720 --> 02:03:12,360
Speaker 4: roster in twenty twenty six. It seems like the trademarket

2820
02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:15,960
Speaker 4: there isn't one at the moments. So I mean, are

2821
02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:18,280
Speaker 4: you more leaning towards that he is going to be

2822
02:03:18,320 --> 02:03:20,200
Speaker 4: on the Colts roster when they get to training camp.

2823
02:03:21,600 --> 02:03:24,480
Speaker 5: I don't think I'm still there yet, honestly, because the

2824
02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:28,960
Speaker 5: way Chris Ballace spoke about the quarterback position was a

2825
02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:33,160
Speaker 5: little to me contradictory because in one vein He's like, Hey,

2826
02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:36,000
Speaker 5: we like Riley Leonard, but we could also add another quarterback.

2827
02:03:36,040 --> 02:03:37,920
Speaker 5: And I'm thinking to myself, if you ask somebody, what

2828
02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:39,800
Speaker 5: does that mean for Anthony Richardson, Oh well, he could

2829
02:03:39,800 --> 02:03:41,840
Speaker 5: still be here. We believe in him and things like that.

2830
02:03:41,960 --> 02:03:44,440
Speaker 5: But I think they have to make a decision just

2831
02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:46,720
Speaker 5: point blank, is he going to be on our team

2832
02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:49,160
Speaker 5: or not? Regardless if we can trade him, and I

2833
02:03:49,160 --> 02:03:50,960
Speaker 5: think that there's the possibility that they can move on

2834
02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:53,360
Speaker 5: from him and possibly cut him outright. I'm not saying

2835
02:03:53,360 --> 02:03:54,640
Speaker 5: they will do that, but I think they have to

2836
02:03:54,720 --> 02:03:59,320
Speaker 5: consider it because to me, the big optics or the

2837
02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:03,000
Speaker 5: perhaps distraction of Anthony competing with Riley Leonard to be

2838
02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:05,760
Speaker 5: your QB two doesn't exactly wind up with everything they

2839
02:04:05,800 --> 02:04:07,480
Speaker 5: said this offseason. I mean, if you talk to them,

2840
02:04:07,600 --> 02:04:10,480
Speaker 5: they said, hey, right now today, Riley's our QB two.

2841
02:04:10,520 --> 02:04:12,640
Speaker 5: Granted we haven't really had an upbeate on Anthony in

2842
02:04:12,680 --> 02:04:15,240
Speaker 5: his eye and where he's that, but just talking to

2843
02:04:15,280 --> 02:04:17,240
Speaker 5: them and reading the tea leaves, they talk about Riley

2844
02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:19,440
Speaker 5: like he's a big part of their future. With Anthony.

2845
02:04:19,440 --> 02:04:21,640
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, yeah, this guy some of our team like,

2846
02:04:21,960 --> 02:04:24,120
Speaker 5: listen the best, But it doesn't sound like, at least

2847
02:04:24,120 --> 02:04:26,040
Speaker 5: in my mind, he's a big part of their plans

2848
02:04:26,080 --> 02:04:28,120
Speaker 5: moving forward. So do you want to deal with that

2849
02:04:28,160 --> 02:04:29,000
Speaker 5: going to another season?

2850
02:04:29,080 --> 02:04:29,240
Speaker 7: Is it?

2851
02:04:29,240 --> 02:04:32,760
Speaker 5: Why keep him around? Possibly, if Daniel Jones isn't ready,

2852
02:04:32,760 --> 02:04:36,440
Speaker 5: I think that's probably a good thing to do. But optically,

2853
02:04:36,600 --> 02:04:38,680
Speaker 5: I just wonder how many times you can really, you know,

2854
02:04:38,680 --> 02:04:40,840
Speaker 5: got out of roll with Anthony and say you believe

2855
02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:43,720
Speaker 5: in him and then not really get you know, anything materialized.

2856
02:04:44,160 --> 02:04:46,000
Speaker 1: And that's the voice James Boyd. Of course you hear

2857
02:04:46,040 --> 02:04:48,320
Speaker 1: him on these ARA waves and he's out in Phoenix

2858
02:04:48,440 --> 02:04:51,320
Speaker 1: right now. A little breakfast with Shane Steichen upcoming the

2859
02:04:51,400 --> 02:04:55,360
Speaker 1: league's annual meetings. James, you tweeted out and obviously he's

2860
02:04:55,400 --> 02:04:57,120
Speaker 1: got stories up on the athletic but you tweeted out

2861
02:04:57,160 --> 02:05:00,400
Speaker 1: yesterday got of some takeaways from Chris On and you

2862
02:05:00,480 --> 02:05:03,520
Speaker 1: mentioned one of those being Chris Power believes Daniel Jones

2863
02:05:03,520 --> 02:05:06,320
Speaker 1: can be even better in twenty twenty six another year

2864
02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:10,280
Speaker 1: in Shane Stiken's system. Is that purely from like the

2865
02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:12,760
Speaker 1: mental acumen of just like being in an offense for

2866
02:05:12,800 --> 02:05:15,400
Speaker 1: an additional year, because you know he is losing one

2867
02:05:15,400 --> 02:05:17,160
Speaker 1: of his top white outs and he is coming off

2868
02:05:17,160 --> 02:05:20,160
Speaker 1: with torn achilles. I'm just curious if he added any

2869
02:05:20,240 --> 02:05:21,200
Speaker 1: kind of color around that.

2870
02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:25,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that's the biggest takeaway over the

2871
02:05:25,600 --> 02:05:28,880
Speaker 5: last couple of days in regards to Daniel is carli

2872
02:05:29,000 --> 02:05:32,000
Speaker 5: Ersa Gordon Chris Ballard truly believed that, yes, he's coming

2873
02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:34,960
Speaker 5: off the achilles, coming off the injury, but his chemistry

2874
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:37,560
Speaker 5: was say, spiking will do a lot of wonders to

2875
02:05:37,600 --> 02:05:39,360
Speaker 5: help him get up to speed a lot quicker from

2876
02:05:39,400 --> 02:05:41,800
Speaker 5: a mental standpoint, because he already knows the offense and

2877
02:05:41,800 --> 02:05:43,400
Speaker 5: he knows what he wants to do in it, and

2878
02:05:43,480 --> 02:05:47,320
Speaker 5: so in theory in a vacuum, yeah, you could say, Okay,

2879
02:05:47,640 --> 02:05:50,160
Speaker 5: in another year in the system, Daniel Jones, as smart

2880
02:05:50,160 --> 02:05:52,400
Speaker 5: as he is, hardest he works, will be better. But

2881
02:05:52,520 --> 02:05:55,880
Speaker 5: the pushback that I've had for both Carli Ersa Gordon

2882
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:59,480
Speaker 5: and Chris Ballard is that this guy is always hurt

2883
02:06:00,400 --> 02:06:02,840
Speaker 5: and he's coming off a devastating injury. And I wrote

2884
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:06,040
Speaker 5: it in my story this morning. At the athletics, they

2885
02:06:06,080 --> 02:06:09,840
Speaker 5: treat this injury as if it's the house fly in

2886
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:11,880
Speaker 5: the room versus the elephant in the room. And I'm

2887
02:06:11,880 --> 02:06:14,680
Speaker 5: thinking to myself, as optimistic as you all or have been,

2888
02:06:15,160 --> 02:06:17,280
Speaker 5: this makes no sense to me. This is a devastating

2889
02:06:17,320 --> 02:06:19,800
Speaker 5: injury and everyone keeps acting like it's nothing. It is

2890
02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:22,080
Speaker 5: definitely something, and I think that's something they have to,

2891
02:06:22,320 --> 02:06:25,600
Speaker 5: you know, consider moving forward. And so we'll see how

2892
02:06:25,600 --> 02:06:27,880
Speaker 5: the rehab goes and if he's available at the start

2893
02:06:27,880 --> 02:06:31,640
Speaker 5: of the season. But this is very, very optimistic, and honestly,

2894
02:06:32,080 --> 02:06:36,160
Speaker 5: it might be like just malpractice. If you look at

2895
02:06:36,240 --> 02:06:36,960
Speaker 5: how things are going.

2896
02:06:37,160 --> 02:06:38,800
Speaker 4: It does seem like this season is turning into a

2897
02:06:38,800 --> 02:06:41,000
Speaker 4: bunch of hopes and wishes as far as what the

2898
02:06:41,080 --> 02:06:41,720
Speaker 4: roster could be.

2899
02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:43,400
Speaker 2: We hope Daniel Jones will be back.

2900
02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:45,640
Speaker 1: We hope he'll be like he was when we started

2901
02:06:45,640 --> 02:06:48,240
Speaker 1: the season, and DeForest Buckner's fully help. It's a lot

2902
02:06:48,280 --> 02:06:50,240
Speaker 1: of hopes and witches for my liking right now.

2903
02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:54,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's the thing, hope. It isn't really a plan,

2904
02:06:54,320 --> 02:06:56,280
Speaker 5: not get it. You still have, you know, the draft

2905
02:06:56,320 --> 02:06:58,000
Speaker 5: to get through, you have the latter hits of the

2906
02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:00,640
Speaker 5: free agency. And again I'll sit here and say this

2907
02:07:01,000 --> 02:07:03,000
Speaker 5: last year, I didn't believe anything that they were doing

2908
02:07:03,120 --> 02:07:05,200
Speaker 5: as far as the quarterback plan, and it worked out well.

2909
02:07:05,200 --> 02:07:07,200
Speaker 5: I had to eat crow for about ten weeks there

2910
02:07:07,240 --> 02:07:10,120
Speaker 5: before Daniel really got seriously injured. So perhaps it could

2911
02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:13,200
Speaker 5: work out. But I just can't sit here and say

2912
02:07:13,560 --> 02:07:15,520
Speaker 5: right now today you're a better team than you were,

2913
02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:18,480
Speaker 5: and you're trending upward when it comes to some of

2914
02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:22,080
Speaker 5: the roster management this offseason. So we'll see again what

2915
02:07:22,160 --> 02:07:24,160
Speaker 5: the draft brings and if you can hit on some players.

2916
02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:26,600
Speaker 5: But to me, it feels like you have so many

2917
02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:29,680
Speaker 5: deficiencies in glaring holes that you might not be able

2918
02:07:29,680 --> 02:07:32,080
Speaker 5: to adequately address all of them by the end of

2919
02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:32,800
Speaker 5: this offseason.

2920
02:07:32,920 --> 02:07:35,600
Speaker 4: Well, James, we won't bother you tomorrow. You are free

2921
02:07:35,600 --> 02:07:38,720
Speaker 4: from us tomorrow, so enjoy order another steak and eggs

2922
02:07:38,720 --> 02:07:39,480
Speaker 4: on the company dime.

2923
02:07:39,560 --> 02:07:41,600
Speaker 3: Okay, I got, I got.

2924
02:07:41,480 --> 02:07:44,839
Speaker 1: One more, James. You know, elephant versus house fly. I mean, honestly,

2925
02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:46,840
Speaker 1: the house fly can be tyreek hill in the open field.

2926
02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:48,360
Speaker 1: The house fly can be pretty tough.

2927
02:07:49,920 --> 02:07:52,040
Speaker 5: I mean, I get that, I get that. But just

2928
02:07:52,080 --> 02:07:54,080
Speaker 5: imagine an elephant in your living room and then I

2929
02:07:54,080 --> 02:07:56,320
Speaker 5: think you'll be okay with a little house fly going

2930
02:07:56,360 --> 02:07:59,680
Speaker 5: around to get it. Great if you don't, and it's like,

2931
02:07:59,720 --> 02:08:00,960
Speaker 5: all right, it's not the worst thing in the world.

2932
02:08:01,040 --> 02:08:04,280
Speaker 5: But elephant, come on now, you that will blowout with babies,

2933
02:08:04,440 --> 02:08:07,160
Speaker 5: KB announcer blowout. That's that's a little different.

2934
02:08:07,360 --> 02:08:10,520
Speaker 1: Last last thing, Would you eat fifty peeps between now

2935
02:08:10,560 --> 02:08:13,840
Speaker 1: and Saturday to get front row tickets to see your

2936
02:08:13,880 --> 02:08:18,960
Speaker 1: fighting a LIONI? Oh, You've got four days to eat?

2937
02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:20,960
Speaker 3: Is not a hard question.

2938
02:08:21,160 --> 02:08:24,000
Speaker 1: Would you come on j fifty peeps between now and

2939
02:08:24,120 --> 02:08:28,320
Speaker 1: six pm Saturday night to sit front row to watch

2940
02:08:28,320 --> 02:08:28,919
Speaker 1: your alni?

2941
02:08:30,760 --> 02:08:33,360
Speaker 5: I'd probably do it. I probably do it, and I

2942
02:08:33,400 --> 02:08:34,320
Speaker 5: would feel some pain.

2943
02:08:34,600 --> 02:08:37,720
Speaker 1: I think after doing peep your body is the elephant

2944
02:08:37,720 --> 02:08:38,440
Speaker 1: in the room. Brother.

2945
02:08:39,520 --> 02:08:41,720
Speaker 5: I know, I know, I mean, I don't know. If

2946
02:08:41,720 --> 02:08:44,760
Speaker 5: they'll stay down in the body. But I probably do it.

2947
02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:48,040
Speaker 5: And I'm just telling you know, as far as Caleb,

2948
02:08:48,080 --> 02:08:50,200
Speaker 5: I love your brother, but I would do that because

2949
02:08:50,200 --> 02:08:51,960
Speaker 5: I try to see my team go to be for

2950
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:55,720
Speaker 5: a national championship, whereas you're just eing voluntarily judging very

2951
02:08:55,760 --> 02:08:59,640
Speaker 5: hard on that. Like, man, I know we have our differences,

2952
02:08:59,640 --> 02:09:01,680
Speaker 5: but boy, we will never shut out on that.

2953
02:09:01,960 --> 02:09:03,680
Speaker 1: I know they call him Indiana bones, but if he's

2954
02:09:03,680 --> 02:09:06,160
Speaker 1: down in fifty peeps, assist course that he's getting two seats,

2955
02:09:06,160 --> 02:09:08,080
Speaker 1: one for one cheek and one for the other, because

2956
02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:10,800
Speaker 1: as you imagine, I mean, honestly, there's a lot of

2957
02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:11,400
Speaker 1: suit crows.

2958
02:09:11,400 --> 02:09:12,120
Speaker 2: His pipes of his.

2959
02:09:12,040 --> 02:09:14,160
Speaker 1: Apartment might look like the color of peeps when he's

2960
02:09:14,160 --> 02:09:15,480
Speaker 1: all done with those fifty ones.

2961
02:09:15,800 --> 02:09:18,600
Speaker 2: Know, man, I know James have a great breakfast.

2962
02:09:18,640 --> 02:09:18,880
Speaker 3: Brother.

2963
02:09:18,960 --> 02:09:21,200
Speaker 1: We appreciate you waking up early each and every morning

2964
02:09:21,200 --> 02:09:23,400
Speaker 1: with us here. And as Mark said, we'll chat with

2965
02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:24,200
Speaker 1: you on Thursday.

2966
02:09:25,080 --> 02:09:28,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little double dip. I'll be checking in after

2967
02:09:28,320 --> 02:09:32,320
Speaker 5: Shane talking to the boss Man on JMV show. So

2968
02:09:33,200 --> 02:09:37,680
Speaker 5: this afternoon at believe five o'clock your time, I'll.

2969
02:09:37,480 --> 02:09:41,040
Speaker 2: Be on three to six today Jeff filling in for John.

2970
02:09:41,120 --> 02:09:44,600
Speaker 1: Thank you James all as James Boyd right there you

2971
02:09:44,640 --> 02:09:46,800
Speaker 1: can find his work, of course on the Athletic. We'll

2972
02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:48,920
Speaker 1: do it one final time, Kevin Bowen, Mark Dyke and

2973
02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:49,680
Speaker 1: Caleb Zuber.

2974
02:09:51,680 --> 02:09:53,640
Speaker 3: Oh, Caleb, a.

2975
02:09:53,520 --> 02:09:55,840
Speaker 1: Little outcast to play us out today.

2976
02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:56,280
Speaker 2: I love it.

2977
02:09:56,280 --> 02:09:58,040
Speaker 3: Come on, man, love this sound.

2978
02:09:58,120 --> 02:09:59,640
Speaker 6: Trying to just trying to be as good as you

2979
02:09:59,760 --> 02:10:01,320
Speaker 6: back here with the music selections.

2980
02:10:01,320 --> 02:10:01,800
Speaker 3: It's tough.

2981
02:10:02,000 --> 02:10:04,720
Speaker 2: Kevin taking an extra long time in the bathroom.

2982
02:10:04,760 --> 02:10:07,000
Speaker 3: I guess I must say some peeps. Oh you know

2983
02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:07,480
Speaker 3: what it was.

2984
02:10:07,600 --> 02:10:08,440
Speaker 2: It wasn't the peeps.

2985
02:10:08,480 --> 02:10:10,440
Speaker 3: It was that wrap, That's what it was.

2986
02:10:10,680 --> 02:10:10,760
Speaker 6: What.

2987
02:10:10,840 --> 02:10:13,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, he wolfed that down and the gus said, hey,

2988
02:10:13,680 --> 02:10:15,280
Speaker 4: we're about to get in the car for a little bit,

2989
02:10:15,320 --> 02:10:21,000
Speaker 4: so we should probably get business done here.

2990
02:10:20,880 --> 02:10:21,240
Speaker 3: Anyway.

2991
02:10:21,280 --> 02:10:23,000
Speaker 4: So as Kevin mix his return back in the mill,

2992
02:10:23,040 --> 02:10:25,240
Speaker 4: I will remind you keep listening to the Fan Morning

2993
02:10:25,360 --> 02:10:27,240
Speaker 4: Show and the Ride with jamb for your chance to

2994
02:10:27,240 --> 02:10:29,480
Speaker 4: win a pair of tickets to twenty twenty six State

2995
02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:32,680
Speaker 4: Farm College Slam Dunk and three point Contest at hinkle

2996
02:10:32,720 --> 02:10:35,480
Speaker 4: Field House this Friday, April third. Next chance to win

2997
02:10:35,520 --> 02:10:38,560
Speaker 4: this coming this afternoon when Jeff is in the chair

2998
02:10:38,680 --> 02:10:40,680
Speaker 4: for JMV. Everything okay out there?

2999
02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:43,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, I was chatting with Nick, Nick Cott and

3000
02:10:43,360 --> 02:10:46,360
Speaker 1: Jim oh out there, so apologies on that end.

3001
02:10:46,520 --> 02:10:47,720
Speaker 3: No, you're good. We were wearing.

3002
02:10:48,360 --> 02:10:50,440
Speaker 4: We were worried that you had the You digested the

3003
02:10:50,440 --> 02:10:52,440
Speaker 4: cluster truck so fast it was it was not going on.

3004
02:10:52,480 --> 02:10:54,520
Speaker 1: Oh no, No, the cluster truck is such great food.

3005
02:10:54,520 --> 02:10:56,560
Speaker 1: It sits in your system beautifully. If I would have

3006
02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:58,280
Speaker 1: had a peep or two, though, that could have been different.

3007
02:10:58,840 --> 02:11:01,560
Speaker 1: Maybe we needed maybe you need to have a want

3008
02:11:01,600 --> 02:11:03,680
Speaker 1: to say shrewd peeps even make you do that?

3009
02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:06,200
Speaker 3: You guys just making it up to just trash the name.

3010
02:11:06,280 --> 02:11:07,320
Speaker 3: I think that's what's happening.

3011
02:11:07,360 --> 02:11:10,240
Speaker 2: I remember the I remember the Malcolm in the Middle.

3012
02:11:11,000 --> 02:11:11,640
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen.

3013
02:11:11,520 --> 02:11:14,560
Speaker 1: Malcolm in the Middle, Caleb, Yeah, the episode where Francis

3014
02:11:14,560 --> 02:11:16,520
Speaker 1: has to eat one hundred peeps or whatever it is

3015
02:11:17,560 --> 02:11:21,680
Speaker 1: that turned me off big time to its NonStop.

3016
02:11:22,280 --> 02:11:23,680
Speaker 3: It's his favorite episode.

3017
02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:26,680
Speaker 4: No, yeah, my brother loved him as a kid, Like

3018
02:11:26,720 --> 02:11:28,440
Speaker 4: they get him in the Easter baskets and he would

3019
02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:29,080
Speaker 4: wolf him down.

3020
02:11:29,120 --> 02:11:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, that is just true. It just it tastes

3021
02:11:31,600 --> 02:11:36,640
Speaker 1: like sand paper. Marshmellows. Sandpaper just awful. Yeah, awful tru

3022
02:11:36,880 --> 02:11:38,520
Speaker 1: By the way, earlier in the show, we had on

3023
02:11:38,840 --> 02:11:41,360
Speaker 1: Luke Meredith, Braylen Mullens High School coach.

3024
02:11:41,360 --> 02:11:42,600
Speaker 2: Obviously the Braylen.

3025
02:11:42,280 --> 02:11:44,640
Speaker 1: Mullins local angle will be a big one to focus

3026
02:11:44,680 --> 02:11:48,400
Speaker 1: on Saturday. We should mention Illinois actually has two rotational

3027
02:11:48,440 --> 02:11:53,080
Speaker 1: players uh courtesy of Cathedral High School and Tipton High School.

3028
02:11:53,360 --> 02:11:56,040
Speaker 1: Cathedral kid Jake Davis, he's got the hair. He's got

3029
02:11:56,040 --> 02:11:59,680
Speaker 1: the good looking hair there. Jason Delaney FETOS head coaches,

3030
02:11:59,680 --> 02:12:02,280
Speaker 1: on which yesterday I told a great story about Jake

3031
02:12:02,400 --> 02:12:05,600
Speaker 1: Davis and his impact of FETO. Known for taking charges

3032
02:12:05,680 --> 02:12:09,960
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna butcher the kids last name from Tipton Ben,

3033
02:12:10,720 --> 02:12:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna try to attempt it. It starts

3034
02:12:12,520 --> 02:12:14,080
Speaker 1: with an H and then there's a lot of letters

3035
02:12:14,120 --> 02:12:18,160
Speaker 1: after that. But they both play decent roles for Brad

3036
02:12:18,200 --> 02:12:20,960
Speaker 1: Underwood's team. The tipt And kid actually played over at

3037
02:12:20,960 --> 02:12:23,720
Speaker 1: A Huntington. That's where he got his initial start in college.

3038
02:12:24,080 --> 02:12:28,120
Speaker 1: So he has gone from nai A Huntington to now play.

3039
02:12:28,200 --> 02:12:32,120
Speaker 1: He stopped at Evansville and now he is a rotational

3040
02:12:32,120 --> 02:12:35,560
Speaker 1: member of Illinois team. How about that to playing in

3041
02:12:35,560 --> 02:12:36,880
Speaker 1: your home state in the final four.

3042
02:12:37,240 --> 02:12:40,280
Speaker 4: Not bad, not bad at all. I know I have

3043
02:12:40,360 --> 02:12:42,880
Speaker 4: Arizona and Yukon in my national championship. I wou would

3044
02:12:42,880 --> 02:12:45,280
Speaker 4: not be upset if Illinois pulled it off because I

3045
02:12:45,280 --> 02:12:47,680
Speaker 4: think Brad Underwood has done a fantastic job out there

3046
02:12:47,760 --> 02:12:49,720
Speaker 4: with that. By the way, Alex Laverne in the chat said,

3047
02:12:49,720 --> 02:12:52,280
Speaker 4: why don't we combine our two loves, Caleb's peeps and

3048
02:12:52,320 --> 02:12:53,280
Speaker 4: our mao on top?

3049
02:12:53,640 --> 02:12:54,480
Speaker 2: I said, I would puke.

3050
02:12:56,000 --> 02:12:57,800
Speaker 3: That's probably too far for me.

3051
02:12:58,720 --> 02:13:01,880
Speaker 1: But I literally rather stand on the backstretch of lap

3052
02:13:01,880 --> 02:13:06,760
Speaker 1: two hundred, five hundred and try to dodge cars. That

3053
02:13:06,840 --> 02:13:09,160
Speaker 1: sounds horrific, by the way, right now, do you guys

3054
02:13:09,160 --> 02:13:10,840
Speaker 1: feel like you're in the Indy five hundred dodge in

3055
02:13:10,880 --> 02:13:14,200
Speaker 1: the potholes? Yes, my god, especially when we come when

3056
02:13:14,200 --> 02:13:16,000
Speaker 1: the when the sun isn't up just yet. Do you

3057
02:13:16,040 --> 02:13:17,920
Speaker 1: do you know where they are on the streets you

3058
02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:19,120
Speaker 1: drive at this point?

3059
02:13:19,360 --> 02:13:19,839
Speaker 3: Yeah?

3060
02:13:19,960 --> 02:13:22,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I could fit all three of my

3061
02:13:22,760 --> 02:13:23,760
Speaker 1: children in some of these.

3062
02:13:24,680 --> 02:13:27,360
Speaker 4: There's there there's ones that are like craterous where I'm

3063
02:13:27,400 --> 02:13:29,000
Speaker 4: just like, I feel like this is a sinkhole that's

3064
02:13:29,000 --> 02:13:29,840
Speaker 4: about to open up.

3065
02:13:30,240 --> 02:13:31,760
Speaker 2: There's some massive ones out there.

3066
02:13:32,160 --> 02:13:36,640
Speaker 1: I am new to Indy, but man, Keystone Avenue just

3067
02:13:36,680 --> 02:13:37,280
Speaker 1: going through it.

3068
02:13:37,320 --> 02:13:38,960
Speaker 3: Man, it's like got to take it every day.

3069
02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:41,560
Speaker 1: And it's old boy frogger right out there. I mean,

3070
02:13:41,600 --> 02:13:46,000
Speaker 1: it's just unbelievable trying to dodge all that. Kind of

3071
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:48,040
Speaker 1: a quiet month for IndyCar by the Way Oval test

3072
02:13:48,120 --> 02:13:51,160
Speaker 1: with uh out there over an ims by the Way.

3073
02:13:51,160 --> 02:13:53,360
Speaker 1: Saw Connor da Ley yesterday at the Old Cluster Truck

3074
02:13:53,800 --> 02:13:57,160
Speaker 1: Burger photo shoots. He will have a burger as well,

3075
02:13:57,200 --> 02:13:59,400
Speaker 1: and he is with Dryer Riinbold here him and Jack Harvey.

3076
02:13:59,400 --> 02:14:01,880
Speaker 1: I believe teammates coming up. So you guys do a

3077
02:14:01,880 --> 02:14:04,160
Speaker 1: little trash talk to each other because like you guys are,

3078
02:14:04,160 --> 02:14:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see if your your burgers do better

3079
02:14:06,760 --> 02:14:08,840
Speaker 1: your stinks. You know, we're all trying to raise money,

3080
02:14:08,880 --> 02:14:11,640
Speaker 1: but you better believe there's some competition. Yeah, I mean,

3081
02:14:12,080 --> 02:14:13,880
Speaker 1: I'll let the other burgers get released. You know. I

3082
02:14:13,920 --> 02:14:16,320
Speaker 1: don't know if they're making any last minute and ingredient

3083
02:14:16,840 --> 02:14:19,080
Speaker 1: changes here, but why mess was success with mine?

3084
02:14:19,120 --> 02:14:20,880
Speaker 4: I would say, do you get to change yours up

3085
02:14:20,920 --> 02:14:22,560
Speaker 4: if you wanted to? Or are you just like you?

3086
02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:23,120
Speaker 1: No?

3087
02:14:23,120 --> 02:14:25,480
Speaker 2: No, I took tomato off yesterday.

3088
02:14:25,560 --> 02:14:28,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm a fan of that, I don't like tomato. Okay, good,

3089
02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:31,240
Speaker 1: So that's that's big points in my book. I literally

3090
02:14:31,240 --> 02:14:33,960
Speaker 1: almost thought about texting you before I appreciate the offer.

3091
02:14:34,200 --> 02:14:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, I need to consult with Mark here before

3092
02:14:35,960 --> 02:14:36,839
Speaker 1: I make life decisions.

3093
02:14:36,960 --> 02:14:39,520
Speaker 4: As I was stuffing oatmeal, cream pies and jerky in

3094
02:14:39,560 --> 02:14:40,240
Speaker 4: my backpack.

3095
02:14:40,920 --> 02:14:44,680
Speaker 1: Did again no Pacer game tonight. They'll play tomorrow seven

3096
02:14:44,720 --> 02:14:47,200
Speaker 1: to go. Did you guys fully catch and Mark you

3097
02:14:47,320 --> 02:14:49,360
Speaker 1: might have been driving? Did you fully catch the ending

3098
02:14:49,400 --> 02:14:51,760
Speaker 1: of that game Friday night? I heard about it. I

3099
02:14:51,800 --> 02:14:54,840
Speaker 1: did not hear it or see it though. All right, Caleb,

3100
02:14:54,880 --> 02:14:56,720
Speaker 1: feel free to fill in any details that I'm that

3101
02:14:56,760 --> 02:14:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm missing here. But you know, I think it gets

3102
02:14:59,160 --> 02:15:01,720
Speaker 1: lost in like the NCA tournament just shuffle and I

3103
02:15:01,760 --> 02:15:03,520
Speaker 1: get it's spring break for a lot of people, or

3104
02:15:03,600 --> 02:15:06,200
Speaker 1: people just aren't paying attention frankly to the Pacers right now.

3105
02:15:06,200 --> 02:15:08,560
Speaker 1: But okay, Benedict Mathern's back in the building right He's

3106
02:15:08,560 --> 02:15:09,800
Speaker 1: making a bunch of free throws.

3107
02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:10,960
Speaker 2: The Pacers have a lead.

3108
02:15:11,000 --> 02:15:12,600
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, they're trying to ice the game,

3109
02:15:12,960 --> 02:15:15,520
Speaker 1: and Kawhi Leonard hits a shot that looks like it's

3110
02:15:15,560 --> 02:15:18,960
Speaker 1: the game winner. Typical Kawhi fifteen footer hits a game

3111
02:15:19,080 --> 02:15:21,600
Speaker 1: winning shot, at least we think it is. They end

3112
02:15:21,680 --> 02:15:24,640
Speaker 1: up having point four on the clock. Clippers are up one.

3113
02:15:24,880 --> 02:15:29,280
Speaker 1: Pacers advance the ball, Andrew Dumhart's inbounding it. He throws

3114
02:15:29,400 --> 02:15:33,560
Speaker 1: the ball in the hoop from out of bounds. Goes in,

3115
02:15:33,680 --> 02:15:36,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, now you know showing Maddie this. Maddy

3116
02:15:36,880 --> 02:15:39,920
Speaker 1: leaps and thinks that you know it's you know it counts.

3117
02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, that's a violation. Okay, so now

3118
02:15:42,120 --> 02:15:45,880
Speaker 1: Clippers ball. They the Pacers foul Matherin. He goes the

3119
02:15:45,920 --> 02:15:48,160
Speaker 1: line to try to ice the game with like point

3120
02:15:48,160 --> 02:15:51,640
Speaker 1: three on the clock. He misses the first so smartly,

3121
02:15:52,080 --> 02:15:54,800
Speaker 1: Tyrone Lew says, miss the second. I mean there's point three.

3122
02:15:54,840 --> 02:15:56,920
Speaker 1: You just want the time to evaporate. You can't throw

3123
02:15:56,960 --> 02:15:59,720
Speaker 1: it link to the court and point three. Matherin misses it,

3124
02:15:59,800 --> 02:16:03,480
Speaker 1: but the Pacers get fouled with time still on the clock.

3125
02:16:03,680 --> 02:16:06,320
Speaker 1: I think O Siaka maybe got fouled. So now we're

3126
02:16:06,360 --> 02:16:09,600
Speaker 1: back to where we were a minute ago. Pacers and

3127
02:16:09,680 --> 02:16:13,080
Speaker 1: bounding the ball down one trying to get a tip.

3128
02:16:13,080 --> 02:16:16,480
Speaker 1: In situation, Jay Huff flops like you've never seen. I mean,

3129
02:16:16,520 --> 02:16:18,920
Speaker 1: it was one of the more beautiful flops you've ever seen.

3130
02:16:19,440 --> 02:16:22,000
Speaker 3: He gets fouled down.

3131
02:16:21,800 --> 02:16:24,600
Speaker 1: One with zero point one on the clock, so he

3132
02:16:24,680 --> 02:16:27,200
Speaker 1: goes to the foul line with a chance to either

3133
02:16:27,320 --> 02:16:30,480
Speaker 1: win it or send the game in overtime. I did

3134
02:16:30,480 --> 02:16:32,160
Speaker 1: not know this, but somebody told me Jay Huff is

3135
02:16:32,160 --> 02:16:33,320
Speaker 1: an eighty percent foul shooter.

3136
02:16:34,000 --> 02:16:35,480
Speaker 2: Boy, he looked like an eight.

3137
02:16:35,360 --> 02:16:37,560
Speaker 1: Percent foul shooter, was gonna say, with the game on

3138
02:16:37,600 --> 02:16:39,720
Speaker 1: the line. I did see he clanged both. I did

3139
02:16:39,760 --> 02:16:44,160
Speaker 1: see he clank both of the brick brick. Yeah, that

3140
02:16:44,240 --> 02:16:46,920
Speaker 1: is an unbu like imagine if you just the wild

3141
02:16:47,080 --> 02:16:49,560
Speaker 1: swings of emotion, if you had any at that point,

3142
02:16:49,879 --> 02:16:53,080
Speaker 1: It's insane. I mean, can you imagine if like that

3143
02:16:53,120 --> 02:16:57,560
Speaker 1: game like really really mattered. Well, I guess for the Pacers, hopefully,

3144
02:16:57,600 --> 02:17:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, in the losing effort of he just you know,

3145
02:17:00,600 --> 02:17:03,280
Speaker 1: helps your chances as far as getting that overall number

3146
02:17:03,320 --> 02:17:06,879
Speaker 1: one pick, we will we will remember that when the

3147
02:17:06,920 --> 02:17:09,600
Speaker 1: Pacers have some of the best odds, and we'll remember

3148
02:17:09,640 --> 02:17:14,560
Speaker 1: those Jay Huff missed free throw. Well, very fittingly, that

3149
02:17:14,640 --> 02:17:17,560
Speaker 1: wraps up the nosele Boom show of the day here

3150
02:17:17,600 --> 02:17:19,400
Speaker 1: on the fan, I thought we got a lot done here.

3151
02:17:19,440 --> 02:17:22,400
Speaker 1: Thank you for bearing with the Misfits, Kevin Bowen, Mark Dykedon,

3152
02:17:22,560 --> 02:17:25,760
Speaker 1: Caleb Zuver, We greatly appreciate that. We'll be back with

3153
02:17:25,840 --> 02:17:29,000
Speaker 1: Jeff tomorrow, Back with James on Thursday. Thank you to

3154
02:17:29,040 --> 02:17:31,840
Speaker 1: Luke Meredith, Tom Crean and James Boyd. All of that

3155
02:17:31,959 --> 02:17:35,240
Speaker 1: up on the podcast Reminder Jake noon to three, Jeff

3156
02:17:35,320 --> 02:17:37,960
Speaker 1: Rickard three to six today filling in for John. Everybody,

3157
02:17:37,959 --> 02:17:39,920
Speaker 1: have a great, great Tuesday. We'll talk to you tomorrow