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I hope to see 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: you there. In Massachusetts, men charged with nearly seven million 23 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: Do I say billion, I meant million. 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter in a snap fraud. 25 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: We're talking about supplemental nutritional plan there. We're talking about 26 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: how food stamps are manipulated. Federal authorities in Massachusetts charging 27 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: two men with a fraud seven million dollar food stamp scheme. 28 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: This is part of what they say is a Trump 29 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: administration led effort to crack down on fraud and government 30 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: they operate. Did some stores in the city which were 31 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: reimbursed US not benefits far beyond what would be reasonable 32 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: for their size. One of the shops redeeming five hundred 33 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: thousand dollars in a single month. They were exchanging benefits. Here, 34 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: you claim this, and you claim this, and you claim this, 35 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: and you claim this, and you claim this, and you 36 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: claim this. Now I'd like to know more about the 37 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: men in question. 38 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: Here's what I know. 39 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: Both are Haitian immigrants, one a US citizen and the 40 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: other a lawful permanent resident. Okay, well, the lawful permanent 41 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: resident has to be deported. But first jail, and a 42 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: lot of jail. A tremendous amount of jail jail for 43 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: everybody but the one who is a citizen. They became 44 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: a citizen, I think that there might be a reason 45 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 2: to lose your citizenship there if you became a citizen. 46 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: What do you do in that situation? How does one 47 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: handle that situation? The fraud problem is real, and we 48 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: should be clear there are plenty of Americans who engage 49 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: in fraud. That is not the argument. The argument that 50 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: often gets made is, you know, you talk about people 51 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: here legally committing crimes. More crimes are committed by people 52 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: who are here legally by citizens than by people who 53 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: are here by other means. WHOA, You have more citizens 54 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: than non citizens, so therefore, as a matter of percentage, 55 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: more crimes will be committed by citizens than non citizens. 56 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: The argument is you could eliminate one hundred percent of 57 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: the crimes by non citizens if you didn't allow. 58 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 3: Them in the country. That's ma, I'm happy to help. 59 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: You could end this. But the manipulation of. 60 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: Government programs, and when government programs pay out this kind 61 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: of money, usually what you hear from the left is, 62 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: my gosh, these programs are so important. We can't cut these. 63 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: We have to get more to these programs. We are 64 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: not a better nation because we have more people on programs. 65 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: That's Bernie Sanders stupid. It's an ignorant, ignorant thing to say. 66 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: I often remind people about Bernie and his foolishness, and 67 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: what I remind them of is that Bernie Sanders is 68 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: the guy who once stated that breadlines are good things. 69 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: Now you think I'm kidding. This is him in his 70 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: younger day, Bernie Sanders. 71 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 4: It's funny sometimes American journalists talk about how bayd a 72 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 4: country is. 73 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: These people are lining up for food. That's a good thing. 74 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: In other countries, people don't line up for food. The 75 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 2: rich gets a food in the post soft to death. 76 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: If you want to know why I'm not a communist, 77 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: there you go. Because only a communist could listen to 78 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: that and say that makes sense. Every other rational person says, 79 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, until, of course, 80 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: the next time Bernie Sanders speaks. I know this upsets progressives, 81 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: but Bernie Sanders is a nobody who has never done 82 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 2: a thing. You think Donald Trump has never accomplished anything. 83 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: I've heard this before. It's hilarious. Donald Trump allows all 84 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: those limousine liberals in Manhattan to exist. His contributions to 85 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: that city, to that skyline have brought in billions and 86 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: billions of dollars, not only the jobs created, but the 87 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: rent rolls created. What did Bernie Sanders create accept debt 88 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: and a wake of destruction and a destroyed college by 89 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: his wife? Nothing? What is Elano mar created accept incredible 90 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 2: wealth for herself? 91 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 3: Lord only knows at the expense of whom. Nothing? 92 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 2: Where she did salib nothing a Cassia Cortes nothing, She's 93 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: gotten something accomplist. She got elected to Congress Bartender to 94 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: congress man America is a great place. What has she created? 95 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: Un gats And she then looks at people who create 96 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: and say, how dare you? You should give me more? 97 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 2: And Bernie stands there and says, breadlines good things. These 98 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: fraud issues must be dealt with. And I'm thrilled to 99 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: see that we're now looking into them because we need 100 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: to gonna sit here and somehow accept that this is 101 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: just the way it is. How foolish, But foolish is 102 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: the name of the game. Just like the people who 103 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: look at these kinds of programs that say, see, we 104 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: need to continue to grow these programs this brings us 105 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: to Michelle Obama. I know what you're saying, Tony. Why 106 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: why I thought you were our friend. I thought you 107 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: loved us. 108 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: Hey, it's not like I'm talking about Candace Owens. 109 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: Oh wait, that's next. This is Candace. Is I talk 110 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: about Canadace? Okay, all right, So clearly I'm not a 111 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: very nice guy today. This You have got Michelle Obama 112 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: on MS now, which I guess people are now calling 113 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: me now. I don't think it's a compliment. And she's 114 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: on with Jonathan k Part. Jonathan k Part was he 115 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: with the Washington Post? 116 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: He left the Washington Post? And they have themselves a 117 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: sit down, don't you know? 118 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 5: You write this when you're a woman in the public eye, 119 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 5: you're often reduced first and foremost of your physical appearance. 120 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 5: You also write, if someone wants to take something away 121 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 5: from a woman, they will try to rob her of. 122 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: Her femin femininity, her beauty. 123 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 5: We have current examples of this right now, particularly as 124 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 5: before that. 125 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: For all that, why does it persist? 126 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 5: What will it take to shame folks into stopping what 127 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 5: you described there? 128 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 6: You know, look, we we have to pick leaders that 129 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 6: don't do that. 130 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 2: You know, it is hard to. 131 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 6: I can't get into the minds of people who will 132 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 6: cool and mean. 133 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: My empathy in me says. 134 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 6: That that comes from a place of brokenness and insecurity, 135 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 6: and at a certain stage in life, it is not fixable. 136 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 6: It is, you know, planted in there. 137 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: That's exactly how I feel about the editors of Vanity Fair. 138 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: How is it possible you don't have Lania Trump on 139 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: your cover. That's a real hatred of women right there. 140 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: Don't take a look at her as a former model. 141 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: Don't take a look at her somebody who understands fashion. 142 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: Don't take her as somebody who is first lady and 143 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: has her own level of quasi icon status like you, 144 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: Michelle Obama, who is not a model and there's nothing 145 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: of fashion, but you have a quasi icon status, And 146 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: don't put her on the cover of Vanity Fair because 147 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: of Donald Trump's politics. 148 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: Maybe there are things worse than what you're. 149 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: Describing, and maybe possibly what you're describing doesn't actually exist. Now, 150 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: hold on, Do we look at women as men and 151 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,239 Speaker 2: say attractive or not attractive? 152 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: Or here allow me? 153 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: Yep? 154 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 3: Do I apologize? 155 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: Nope? I notice when women are attractive. I notice when 156 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: they're not attractive. I notice when they're tall, I notice 157 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: when they're short, I notice when they're fat, I notice 158 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: when they're thin, and I notice when they're built just right. 159 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: I don't apologize for noticing. 160 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: Oh, and for the ladies who work out in the 161 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: gym with the very low cut tops and the yoga 162 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: pants and then scream about why are you all staring 163 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: at me? Shut up, and certainly don't take video of 164 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: yourself while this happens and then post it and then 165 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: get angry that we're looking again. 166 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 3: Stop just stop. 167 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: We get it. You want to be the center of attention, 168 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: but you don't want anybody to look at you weird. 169 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: The issue is not whether or not you're attractive. The 170 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: issue is whether or not you're competent. If you want 171 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: to be a leader, you have to be competent. Iin 172 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: Rand is amongst. 173 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: The ugliest people I've ever seen. 174 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: But Atlas shrugs and the fountainhead er must reads your move. 175 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: This argument. Someone's trying to take your femininity. What is 176 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: it that you're actually looking for everything? You're telling me 177 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: that women are just like men, women are equal to men, 178 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: but you also have to do these things. 179 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: How about women and men are different? 180 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: And we should always note it and notice it that 181 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: it's important and it's valuable, and that while I teach 182 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: my kids to hold the door open for people, I 183 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: always teach my kids to hold the door open for 184 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 2: a woman, because that's just the way it's done. 185 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 3: I'm raising men, not heathens, and you hold a door open. 186 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: And when my boys joke with me, it's a little 187 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: different than how they're allowed to joke with their mother. 188 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: And I have told them so very directly. 189 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: There are rules. But the argument is what You're not 190 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: allowed to be a leader because someone notices how you look. 191 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: This is your conversation. Have it with. 192 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: Leftists, not us. We're not your problem. 193 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: We're not voting for you anyway. 194 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: Your policies are terrible, but your people aren't. 195 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: Voting for you. By the way, your people are liberals. 196 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 3: Just can we not? 197 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: Could we please not to do that to me? And 198 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: they're not voting for you because they have no faith 199 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: in you. They don't believe in you, and they don't 200 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: believe in Kamala Harrison. They didn't believe in Hillary Clinton. 201 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: Maybe it's your politics. Maybe it's because the people you've 202 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: put up to vote for are frauds. Maybe it's because 203 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: they're unlikable. Maybe it's all those things. We have to 204 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: pick leaders who don't rob women of their femininity. This 205 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: is the argument that the left is having. I guess 206 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: this is the way you keep suburban white women voting 207 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: for you. It's not a conversation in America. It's not 208 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 2: a serious one. You can let somebody else rob you 209 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: of your femininity or your masculinity. Weird, not strong, weird? 210 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: All right, what happened with Candice Owens and Pierce Morgan. 211 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: I've got that story coming up. This is Tony Kats today. 212 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 2: It is not my fault that I have to talk 213 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 2: about Candace Owens. No, no, no, no, don't don't get 214 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: angry with me. I'm telling you it is not my 215 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: fault that this has to happen, but indeed will happen. 216 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Yeah, I feel your pain. Tony Kats today. 217 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: Good to be with you. She oh my god. Yeah, 218 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: you know. Her audience is huge. It's shameful, but it's huge, 219 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: and a lot of them are unhappy with her for 220 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: having this sit down with Erica Kirk of Turning Point 221 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: and we're like, oh, you're a fraud. All you sold 222 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: out oh, we can't trust you anymore. And people are like, 223 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: look at how look at how these people are turning 224 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: on her. Did anybody notice that all these people were 225 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: paying the comments a dollar, five dollars, twenty dollars, one 226 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: hundred dollars. 227 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: They're sending her money. She's making bank. 228 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: It's crazy. But she goes on with Piers Morgan and 229 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to outplay for you the clip that I 230 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: think sums up the whole thing, if you want to 231 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: sum up what it is that's going on with Candace 232 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: Owns here, I think I've got it all clean. A 233 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: finger on the dumb button producial end in just in case. Uh, 234 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: here you go this roum Piers Morgan uncensored, And I. 235 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 7: Think we're going to see the same thing with Bridgie 236 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 7: mackerel and you is that he was weaponizing deliberate lies 237 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 7: for money. 238 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 3: And I think you Crone has a penis. I really 239 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: want you have a penis. Regite Macron has I'm sorry 240 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 3: she had. Did you get it removed? 241 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 242 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 3: You you can have adoptive children. 243 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: You can call somebody. 244 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: But Brigitte Macrome was born a dude named John Mischelle Trump. 245 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: Now yeah, am I now a party doing lawsuit because 246 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: I play that. Can I hear from the legal department? 247 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: Please anybody help? That's that's her. That's her. Hey man, 248 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: Uh listen uh whatever that lowsuit is. Uh uh And 249 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: go and enjoy, go, enjoy every single bit of that 250 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: one and and we'll see what happens. But there was 251 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: a moment in this interview where Candice Owen says verb 252 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: that Turning Point USA was complicit in the murder of 253 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk, and then when confronted with it by Piers Morgan, 254 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: she says, I never said that. And there's a really 255 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 2: interesting question about whether or not you want the Candace 256 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: Owens type in your coalition. A lot of talk about coalition, right, 257 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 2: Trump put together a coalition to win the election. We've 258 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: got to keep the coalition together, I ask you right now. 259 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: I need Candace Owens in the coalition. Never mind the 260 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: insanity of Abergitte Macron, who is a weird looking person 261 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: for sure. And Candace is not the first person to 262 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: make this claim, by the way. The internet is chuck 263 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: full of claims. But she literally said Turning Point USA 264 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 2: was complicit, and in the same five minutes she goes, 265 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 2: I never said that do we need her in the coalition? 266 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: Do we need her? Do we need the people who 267 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: follow her? Can we win elections without her? Can we 268 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: win the midterms without her? Can we win the mid 269 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: terms without Tucker? Can we win the midterms without the 270 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: Nick Quintes types? I argue the answer has to be, well, 271 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: we have. 272 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 3: To, we have to. 273 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 2: We have to win without them, and. 274 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 3: I believe I can prove how. 275 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: I also believe I've got an interesting theory on how 276 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: to keep some of them. And that's all part of 277 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: what I'm doing. January twenty fourth tickets that Tony Katz 278 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 2: dot com. But I don't think I need the candide 279 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: supporter as one of mine. Who I'm good. This is 280 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 2: Tony Katz today joining me. 281 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 4: Everybody. 282 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 7: Thank you to all the officials who are joining us today, 283 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 7: and I'm an acknowledge many of you by name has 284 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 7: a long list A Chairman of the Federal Trade Commission, 285 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 7: Andrew Ferguson. 286 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: And as Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Says, welcome everybody in 287 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: the long long list of people. I welcome you, Tony Katz. 288 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, good to be with you. I was 289 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: able to catch Secretary Kennedy's press conference on child healthcare policy. 290 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 2: Marty McCarry is there from the FDA, doctor Oz who 291 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: runs Medicare Medicaid services. There is no question and no 292 00:19:55,359 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 2: doubt that what RFK has done in terms of mo make. 293 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 3: America healthy again, that has caught fire. 294 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: People are excited about it. Dies out of food, additives 295 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: out of food, more honest conversations about autism. And I'm 296 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: not saying that vaccines cause autism. I am saying that 297 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 2: a society that doesn't allow for conversation is a society 298 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 2: that fails and fails all of us in every single 299 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: way it does. And is that Chloe Cole I see 300 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: So Chloe Cole is an insane story about a young 301 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 2: girl who was allowed to transition to be a boy 302 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 2: and then realized, I'm miserable, this isn't right, this is 303 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: a problem, transition. 304 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 3: Back and found a better life. 305 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 2: And I have interviewed Chloe before and to look in 306 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 2: her eyes and the story is horrifying. So we're gonna 307 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: hear from her. I absolutely want to hear it. In 308 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 2: every single way. There is no doubt that he is 309 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: winning this and that's why he in polling is more 310 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: popular than President Trump and others. It makes perfect sense 311 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: on every single level that he is and so he 312 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: is speaking and going to be engaging with this audience 313 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 2: about healthcare, and I wanted to bring some of it 314 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: to you. 315 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 7: JHS office. The Assistant Secretary for Health last monse confirms 316 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 7: that sets rejecting procedures imposed medical dangers. 317 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: And lasting harm on children. 318 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 7: Who receive these interventions. So today we are taking six 319 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 7: decisive actions, guided by gold standard science and the week 320 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 7: one executive order from President Trump to protect children from 321 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 7: chemical and surgical mutilation. This morning, I signed a declaration 322 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 7: Sex rejecting procedures are neither safe nor effective treatment for 323 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 7: children with genderness. 324 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 8: For him over enjoy would not be more optimal, more earnest, 325 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 8: and more eliar features who gender firms care is not here. 326 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: If it's a license to abuse medical like children, and 327 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 2: those people who make jail, in my view certainly. 328 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 7: Happens, are out of compliance with these standards of healthcare. 329 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 7: This declaration is a clear directive to providers to follow 330 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 7: the science and the overwhelming body of evidence that these 331 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 7: procedures hurt not help children. Additionally, seem As is proposing 332 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 7: to new rules. The first rule will bar hospitals to 333 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 7: participate in Medicare and Medicaid, which is almost every hospital 334 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 7: from performing these dangerous and hearts full of procedures accident. 335 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 7: The second role for him is the federal Medicaid dollars 336 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 7: from funding the sex rejecting procedures on minors. 337 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 338 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 7: The FDA is issuing warning letters to twelve manufacturers of 339 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 7: breast binders, which are medical devices used for purposes such 340 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 7: as assistants and recovery from cancer. 341 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: Related miss eectomies. 342 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 7: The FDA is telling these companies that the illegal marketing 343 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 7: of breast binders to children for the purpose of treating 344 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 7: gender dysphoria commits significant regulatory violations and requires swift congressional 345 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 7: or corrective action. 346 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 2: I am overjoyed. Remember in this conversation, while it's it's 347 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: a mental issue with adults, we are always talking about children, 348 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: and I can talk about adults, but children cannot cannot 349 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 2: do this. They cannot make these kinds of decisions. They 350 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: can't decide their gender because no one can, and they 351 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: cannot be aided in a bet by adults want to 352 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: do them hard. We call them child abusers, and we 353 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: should push back on them with massive force, and this 354 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: is good news. This is a society's taking the stands. 355 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 2: We don't do those things here, and the people want 356 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 2: to do those things. The progressives who want to do 357 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 2: those things, they're wrong and we should say so. 358 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 3: We don't care what they say and what they scream. 359 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 2: I say, let's fight. These are our kids. We're talking 360 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: about laws. If you ain't gonna fight for this, what 361 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: exactly are you gonna fight for? 362 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: They think they're tough. I don't think they're nothing. 363 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: They're gonna sit there and scream that we're gonna the 364 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 2: trans kids are our kids too. Kids are kids. Stop 365 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 2: trying to make them trans. Stop trying to tell them 366 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: that they can be a girl when they're a boy 367 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 2: or boy then when they're a girl. Stop lying to them. 368 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 2: Stop feeding into their mental illness. It's sick, it's twisted. 369 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 2: You're wrong, it's shameful. And if you won't stop, we'll 370 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 2: just stop you. That's what a free and thinking people does. 371 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: They protect children. They don't abuse children. 372 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 9: No society can society if they abuse children's ability, it 373 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 9: cannot be done. This is excellent, excellent news from the 374 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 9: Secretary TOST Team. 375 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 7: Admiral Brian Christine today assigned a public health message to 376 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 7: inform healthcare providers, families, and policymakers that current evidence does 377 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 7: not support claims that puberty blockers, cross sex hormones, and 378 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 7: surgeries are safe and effective correct treatments for pediatric gender 379 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 7: dys for you. These announcements are grounded in evidence and 380 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 7: shaped by compassion. President Trump has made child protection ain't 381 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 7: national priority. Make our Children Healthy against strategy demonstrates that 382 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 7: commitment sex rejecting procedures rob children love their futures. 383 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: Anybody who says that hormotherapy right, purbity blockers, well it's reversible. 384 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: You just stole off them. It's fine. It's not fine. 385 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 2: You've already engaged in a rejection of puberty and the 386 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 2: body cannot then catch back up. It's not how it works. 387 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 2: You have altered the body for forever. It isn't reversible. 388 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: It is a lie told by liars that want children 389 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: to be abused. I don't believe in supporting child abuse. 390 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 2: I believe in fighting people who abuse children so they 391 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 2: stop and they never do it again. Dear Lord, we 392 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: put these people on a registry. We put them on 393 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 2: a list if they live in our neighborhoods. I think, 394 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: if you're a doctor who performs a stuff booming back 395 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: on the list, do you say to me, Tony, did 396 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 2: you just say lists? I'm talking about children here. I'm 397 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: not talking about somebody's politics. They're talking about their own 398 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: with another adult sexual proclivities. I don't care. I don't 399 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 2: care what you're into in the bedroom? You do you 400 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 2: boo boo? Children? I care a lot. And the freaks 401 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: on the left are like, why are you always obsessed 402 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: with other people's bodies? Why am I obsessed with you 403 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: wanting to touch a child's body? I don't know, because 404 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: of normal, Because I'm a decent human being who knows 405 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 2: that my job as an adult is to protect children, 406 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 2: more often than not from themselves, but certainly from predators 407 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: like people who want to abuse them. Back to Secretary 408 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 2: Kennedy or. 409 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 7: The moral obligation to do no harm. There is divine 410 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 7: rorth in every person. It shines most brightly in our children. 411 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 7: That worth commands us to protect them. And as long 412 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 7: as I serve as AGHS secretary this agency. 413 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: That was weird. The audio just cut out. That was weird. 414 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: The audio just cut out. That was very strange. Very 415 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 2: odd how that just happens. You don't usually want that 416 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: to happen. As there were more conversations to take place 417 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: from the Secretary of Health and Human Services there and 418 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: from doctor Oz runs Medicare Medicaid services. 419 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 3: I cannot say it enough. 420 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 2: I cannot be more engaged in what it is that 421 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: we're discussing here. You quite simply cannot have a society 422 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: where children are abused and say nothing and do nothing. 423 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 2: And every conversation about gender affirming care, every single one 424 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: was built and created to keep silent so they could 425 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: go about doing what they do, including every conversation of 426 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: if you don't allow these children to mutilate themselves, they'll 427 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: commit suicide. It was a lie then, it was a 428 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: line now and their liars and they're still lying. Suicide 429 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: doesn't come from this idea of you won't let me 430 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 2: do something. 431 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 3: It comes from Unhappiness comes from not knowing how to. 432 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: Live with oneself and one's issues, and to not see 433 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: the way out and not know how to work through 434 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: that to the better tomorrow, which does indeed exist. I'm 435 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: living proof, I am living proof that these things are real, 436 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 2: that you can overcome it. But I do want to 437 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: share with you the part of the conversation with Chloe Cole. 438 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 2: I'll get to that in just a moment, But I 439 00:29:52,440 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: was sharing some updates on Greg Biffel, NASCAR driver, and 440 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: this this plane crash that took place in North Carolina, 441 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: and the plane is linked to Biffle, so it's still 442 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: owned the Blue We know the plane is owned by him, 443 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: but we don't know all the details. We're hearing that 444 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: Biffle was on the plane that crash and there were 445 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: no survivors there in North Carolina. We're still waiting on 446 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: levels of confirmation. So with that, I just wanted to 447 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: and this is happening, I just wanted to give as 448 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: much up on it as I possibly can. We come back, 449 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: I will have the commentary from Chloe Cole that you 450 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 2: absolutely have to hear. Keep it here. 451 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. 452 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 4: Order to be here and to be able to speak 453 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 4: on behalf of American children whose innocence and health are 454 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 4: being compromised, His lives are being ricked apart. 455 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: Chloe Cole, Tony Kat Tony Katz Today, she tells the 456 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: story of being transitioned and then detransitioning and the horror 457 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: show therein. Anybody who supports gender affirming care, stop and 458 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: listen to this a medical system that have harmed us. 459 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 4: I've become an advocate for protecting children from what is 460 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 4: often mistakenly referred to as gender affirming care because it 461 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 4: is by no means care but unscientific medical abuse that 462 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 4: violates every tenet of medical ethics. Absolutely absolutely, this ideology 463 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 4: is festering at an unimaginable scale within our hospital systems, 464 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 4: our culture, our communities, and too many within our own families. 465 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 4: For me, it started with being lied to about who 466 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 4: I was. 467 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 10: My adults. 468 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: Outside of my family. I was made to feel that 469 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: the way that. 470 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 4: God beautifully made me was in fact a mistake, a 471 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 4: mistake that could only be fixed by so called modern medicine. 472 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 4: My doctors, rather than guiding me, they affirmed my childish 473 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 4: misgivings about my developing body, my belief that I wasn't 474 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 4: just a tomboy, that if I liked having short hair, 475 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 4: if I liked being around the boys more, if I 476 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 4: behaved more like my older brothers, I actually was a 477 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 4: boy who just so happened to be born in a 478 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 4: girl's body. At thirteen years old, I was administered puberty 479 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 4: blockers and tstosterone and high doses, and when I was 480 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 4: only fifteen, they removed my breasts. My questions about whether 481 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 4: I will be able to have children, or about the 482 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 4: future of my reproductive health and my overall health have 483 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 4: gone unanswered. But that mistep me ensured that I am 484 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 4: never going to be able to nourish whatever children I 485 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 4: may have. And this happened before I was even mature 486 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 4: enough to understand that one day I would aspire to 487 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 4: become a mother. 488 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: Because of the moral. 489 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 10: Failings of my doctors, I forever have lost significant parts 490 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 10: of my identity as a now adult woman while I 491 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 10: was still a child. 492 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: I have spoken to her eye to eyes, and it 493 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: is heartbreaking. And the story she tells is the story 494 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 2: of abuse and of doctors who failed, and they're not 495 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: good and they're not decent, and they should, in my view, 496 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 2: lose their licenses. This is full on abuse, This is torture, 497 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: this is disfigurement. And no, never a conversation about the 498 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 2: future for these kids. No, no, no, only worry about 499 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 2: how you feel right now. We don't want to think 500 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 2: about your future. And whenever anybody de transitions. They are 501 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 2: immediately cast aside. Nobody wants to deal with this reality. 502 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 2: That's the truth. They don't want to deal with the 503 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 2: reality of what they have done and what they are 504 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: doing to kids. Any chance to hear Chloe Cole speak, 505 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: I try and make that happen. I try and make 506 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 2: that happen because it's the manipulation. And why did I 507 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 2: favor redistricting? Could you think I want these people to 508 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: be in office. Look what they're willing to to say 509 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: okay too regarding kids. And if people are offended by that, 510 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: I think the offense is what you're willing to say 511 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 2: okay to about amusing kids. I don't have to apologize, 512 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 2: you do. Good God, there's more show. Keep it right here. 513 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: This is Tony Kats Today. Find everything at tonycats dot com.