1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: The fifty year mortgage. That sounds like a horrible idea. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: Let's get to the bottom of it. Kennelly Casey, show him. 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Rob Casey's out Ethan Hatcher from Saturday not on the 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Circle in for Casey it is his birthday. 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: Find him at Ethan Hatcher on Twitter. That's right where. 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: That's where people find you, at Ethan Hatcher. 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: And you can also find my personal podcasting page at 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: Saturday Night on the Circle dot Fireside dot FM. I 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: know it's a little long, but again that's Saturday Night 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: on the Circle, dot Fireside dot FM. 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: All right, so Trump came out was this yesterday? 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, it was over the weekend, and he 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: is for most this idea where he wants to make 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: the fifty year mortgage possible, and he citing terrible idea FDR. 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: Doing the thirty year mortgage. 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: You're citing one of the most damaging presidents in US 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: history to justify your terrible idea. 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: This has bad idea written all over at Rob. 19 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 1: This is all okay, let's work through it. Because you 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: are in the business of the leverage business, right and 21 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: I don't say that negatively. You own your day job 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: as you own rental properties, you fix them up, you 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: rent them out, And I have a thirty year mortgage 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: and I will be paying on those suckers until I'm 25 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: sixty years old. Well, so I like, like, I think 26 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: you're a good guy to ask on this, because I 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: think a lot of people have or have had a 28 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: thirty year mortgage, And can you kind of walk the 29 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: lay persons because I think most people one of the 30 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: issues is, like, we have such a lack of financial 31 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: literacy in this country where and it starts at a 32 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: very young age, and then people don't learn, Like, on 33 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: a thirty year mortgage, if you pay that sucker all 34 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: the way through, right, if you let it go the distance. 35 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: I heard something years ago from a real estate friend 36 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: of mine, and he said, if you made two payments 37 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: a month or two payments a year extra. I don't 38 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: know this, I have no reason to doubt this, but 39 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: if you made two extra payments a year on your 40 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: thirty year mortgage, you could pay it off in like 41 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: half the time. Does that sound right? I have not 42 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: done the math on that because I can only barely 43 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: afford to pay my monthly mortgage. But can you walk 44 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: people through how much extra you pay over the course 45 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: of like a thirty year mortgage. 46 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 2: Well, I can. 47 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm very bad at math, rob, so I must admit 48 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: this did not come from me, But I saw somebody 49 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: break down the relative comparisons between a fifteen thirty and 50 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: potentially a fifteen year mortgage fifty on a three hundred 51 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: and sixty thousand dollars home. Now, three hundred and sixty 52 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: thousand dollars is a pretty reasonable price in the modern 53 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: economy for a house, is it not? 54 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: Okay? 55 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: So they gave you what the good, the bad, and 56 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: the ugly on a fifteen to thirty and a fifty yes, okay. 57 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: For a fifteen year mortgage, you would be paying one 58 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty seven thousand dollars worth of interest on 59 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: top of the three hundred and sixty thousand dollars principle 60 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: for a fifteen year loan. So basically you would pay 61 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: roughly if you didn't pay any extra on the principle 62 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: you went the full fifteen years, you'd be paying roughly 63 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: five hundred and what I'm just doing math at the flight, 64 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: like five hundred and forty thousand dollars on your three 65 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty thousand dollars house. Yeah, so it'd be 66 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: one hundred eighty seven thousand dollars interest paid over the 67 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: term total interest paid five hundred and forty seven thousand 68 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: dollars for a thirty year mortgage, that would turn into 69 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: seven hundred and seventy seven thousand dollars. And for a 70 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: fifty year mortgage on a three hundred and sixty thousand 71 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: dollar house, you would be paying one million, one hundred 72 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: and thirty seven thousand dollars on your three hundred interest 73 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: on your three hundred and sixty thousand dollar house over 74 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: the full term of fifty years. 75 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: For a fifty year. 76 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: Mortgage, you'd pay that an interest. You would pay that 77 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: in interest, just an interest. Oh sorry, no, that would 78 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: be seven hundred and seventy thousand plus the three hundred 79 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: and seventy thousand, which adds up to the one one million. 80 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: So basically, like the numbers are wait, hang on here, 81 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure people are clear. So, if you 82 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: did a three hundred and sixty thousand dollars home with 83 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: a fifteen year mortgage, you're paying like roughly five hundred 84 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars tone that home. If you did 85 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: that on a thirty year mortgage, would you say seven 86 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy seven thousand dollars okay? And then if 87 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: you did it on a fifty year mortgage, you're paying 88 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: well over a million now, well one million, one hundred 89 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: and thirty seven hundred thousand dollars total cost over the 90 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: life term of that fifty year more. By the way, 91 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: my buddy Anthony was a realtor, said it was seven years. 92 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: You'd paid off seven years earlier. So if you paid 93 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: on a thirty year mortgage, if you made one extra 94 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: two extra payments a year, you could pay that off 95 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: in seven seven years quicker you could pay Well, let's 96 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: not bury the lead here, rob, because what we're talking 97 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: about with a fifty year mortgage, let's just cut to 98 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: the chase. 99 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: Is debt slavery. It's debts slavery. 100 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: You are more than tripling the price of the home 101 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: in orders for the privilege of paying it off in 102 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: fifty years. And when the median price of first time 103 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: or the median age of first time home buyers has 104 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: now hit forty years old, most people are not going 105 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: to be paying off that mortgage when they're ninety. You're 106 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: going to be giving this and giving an inheritance of 107 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: debt to your children. Okay, so what they're doing here, 108 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: let's tele about what they're doing here, because that's the 109 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: big thing, the economies and shambles. Right, they can mask it, 110 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: heaving Trump can say whatever he wants. It's been donezo 111 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: since they shut it down during COVID, and the last 112 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: five years has been this smoking mirrors magic act through 113 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: money printing and creative accounting and you know, rigging the 114 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: interest rates for a while to make people think that 115 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,239 Speaker 1: something was going on which wasn't, which is you cannot 116 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: shut society down. I think there's not going to be 117 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: drastic ramifications. And so what they found now thanks to 118 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: them reducing those interest rates and with all the money printing, 119 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: people had all this money. Money was cheap, it had 120 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: to wear somewhere to go, and a bunch of it 121 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: went into the real estate industry, which drove the prices up, 122 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: as we've seen on assessments, which is raised property taxes, 123 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: et cetera. So now these people can't get into the homes, 124 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: right because you've artificially spike the price of houses. People 125 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: can't get into houses because you totally screwed the economy 126 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: up by dropping those interest rates. Then they had to 127 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: raise the interest rates, so it's a double whammy. So 128 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: the way they're gonna try to mask it now is 129 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: to go, well, let's make it a fifty year mortgage. 130 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: It's cheaper for people to get in. Of course, we're 131 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: gonna screw them on the back end. We'll even the 132 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: back end about the five year part of the end. 133 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: But we want the votes now, baby, We want people 134 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: to be confused now. And so that's why they're talking 135 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: about doing this to once again try to make you 136 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: think things aren't as bad as they actually are. They're 137 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: trying to juice the economy once again. But the most 138 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: devastating impact of the COVID closures was the utter evisceration 139 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: of the middle class economy, the mom and pop small 140 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: business owners that got swallowed up and gobbled up by 141 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: these equity firms and these monopolistic mega corporations. And they're 142 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: doing just fine because they have both vertical and lateral 143 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: integration across the economy. 144 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 2: But you sitting on Main Street are doing terrible. 145 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, we're never getting out of this now 146 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: because nobody on I'm talking at the federal level I'm 147 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: talking at the state level. 148 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: I'm talking at the local level, like nobody has. 149 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: The intestinal fortitude to run on honesty, and honesty would 150 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: be and again this is true at the federal level, 151 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: the state level, the local level is that we we 152 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: the government, right or they they the government, depending on 153 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: when you got When you got into government as an 154 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: elected person, lied to you, manipulated you, abused you, took 155 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: advantage of you, and screwed you. And the only way 156 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna reset what's going on in this country is 157 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: for everybody to feel some pain. And no politician wants 158 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: to run on honesty and telling people they're gonna have 159 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: to feel pain, and so we're just gonna keep lying. 160 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep It's the same thing they're doing with 161 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: SOTI security, where that thing's running out of money and 162 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: then they just keep hey cost of living benefits and 163 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: into blah blah blah and acting like you know, nothing's 164 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: going on. We're just gonna wake up one day. Everybody's 165 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: gonna look around and go, what the hell happened here? 166 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: And the politicians who did it are going to be 167 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: gone or retired or whatever, and a whole generation of 168 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: people or generations in this case, generations. 169 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: Plural of people are going to be left to clean 170 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: up this mess. 171 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: We are being driven down the drain by the cycle 172 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: of the kind lie as opposed to the honest truth, 173 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: because honest truths, while often uncomfortable, but lead you to 174 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: deal with problems, whereas kind lies send you down the 175 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: path of oh, we can put a band aid on it, 176 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: and maybe there's some temporary improvement, but it causes more 177 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: destabilization and more chaos, and it makes the hard truth 178 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: even harder to say, and so it reincentivizes people telling 179 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,119 Speaker 1: you these kind lies instead of admitting that the economy 180 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: is not working for the average person and the cost 181 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: of real estate has become unaffordable because the policies that 182 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: have been implemented. They want to put a band aid 183 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: on it with this fifty year mortgage bull crap. That's 184 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: a terrible, terrible idea. Speaking of bull crap. This was 185 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, but they didn't get a 186 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: lot of media attention, so I wanted to touch on it. 187 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: There was another one of these sort of public town 188 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: hall deals on redistricting, and this time that we talked 189 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: about the one last we did another representative actually have 190 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: the stones to have a public hearing, because I heard 191 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: several other legislators say after the Greg Good fiasco and 192 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: Tara Jatte that they weren't going to be holding those No, 193 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: this was no, no, no, this was Recenter Indiana. They are 194 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: a nonpartisan group, and they had one in Beach Grow. 195 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: But it's my understanding just that anybody could come and 196 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: speak their mind, say whatever they wanted. And Fox fifty nine, 197 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: amongst other people, covered this, and according to them, of 198 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: the people in the room thirty five people surveyed, only 199 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: one said they were in favor of redistricting, which you 200 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: know that mirrors up with the zero who said they 201 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: were in favor of the seventy plus that spoke at 202 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: the great Good Senator from Tara Hate town hall. And 203 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: for all the huffing and puffing on the people that 204 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: are for the redistricting about well this is rigged and 205 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: that's rigged. Well, these meetings are minusing, they're public. Why 206 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: aren't people showing up to this If so many people 207 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: are so passionate about it and in favor of it, 208 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: why aren't they showing up and speaking out? 209 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 2: Oh, it's a. 210 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: Left wing in the media and the Democrats and blah 211 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: blah blah, like that great good town all any person 212 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: could have come in his district. He's a Republican. It's 213 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: a Republican district. Where were all of they did it 214 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: on a Saturday? You can't say, oh, well, the real 215 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: people are out there working. Where are these people who 216 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: are so passionate about it that they can't even be 217 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: bothered to show up and voice. 218 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 2: Their opinion on this? 219 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: It would seem to be based on participation and based 220 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: on polling results, widely unpopular in the state of Indiana. 221 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: Now, there are a few holdouts. 222 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: There are people who are totally bought into the redistricting, 223 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: but they're largely the minority here. 224 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a break. When we come back. 225 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: The mayor of Noblesville did something over the weekend, and Ethan, 226 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to put that voice of reason hat 227 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: back on because I'm enraged by this. But I'm going 228 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: to give you the opportunity to either say you are 229 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: justified in your righteous anger or you're totally out of bound. 230 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: Well, put that hat on, Rob, You know I like 231 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: to wear hats, all right, we'll do it next. Yes, yes, 232 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: you do. Kill the casey ninety three WIBC. 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If you're into Indiana politics and government, those guys, 246 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what they do for jobs. 247 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: I don't know how they pay their bills. 248 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: They just seem to spend their whole days just sifting 249 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: through government documents. 250 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: And cutting clips. They do good work. 251 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: They do excellent work in terms of providing information to 252 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: the community at large. They applied for a press badge 253 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: to the State House to cover the upcoming legislative session 254 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: so that they can continue their work of providing information, documents, 255 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: et cetera the public, and they were denied their press pass, 256 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: and I mentioned on this show, I said, that's pretty wild, 257 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: considering convicted federal felon Gabe Whitley got a press pass 258 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: while I believe he was also facing and still is facing. 259 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: I think he still currently finds himself in the Marion 260 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: County jail. He's facing state charges related to threats or 261 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: intimidation with the duel on the internet. Fun guy, lots 262 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: of problems, and they they knew what he was and 263 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: they let him in there. But you're not like again, 264 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: somebody correct me if I'm wrong, But I don't think 265 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: Stephen and the gang or have any photos of themselves 266 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: in a post office, not on the run from the 267 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: law for heinous crimes against humanity, buying large contributing to 268 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: decent society, whether you like them or not, a lot 269 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: of opinions they have and things they say that I 270 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: don't agree with. But in terms of can we feel 271 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: right that we're gonna let this person into the state House, 272 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you got to go through the metal detector 273 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: every time. Anyway, if you're going to Gabe Whitley is 274 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: like as low as you can possibly go. And if 275 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna let that guy in and not them, that's 276 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: clearly just a middle finger to them, because they challenge 277 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: the establishment. They are, you know, they provide information that 278 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: people like us use, and so we asked our audience 279 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: to call an email and apparently they got a lot 280 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: of calls and emails because within a couple hours they 281 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: they change the change their mind. And so yes, our 282 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: old pal Steven with the press badg he's proudly displaying 283 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: over at the India Reporter account. 284 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 2: That's gonna be. 285 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: Great ethan him in the in the state House during 286 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: the redistricting fight and the upcoming legislative session. I can't 287 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: wait for that. I apologize for the digression. I just 288 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: thought that was good news that the audience would appreciate 289 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: to hear. No, I think that's wonderful and I think 290 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: our audience played a huge role in that and should 291 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: applaud themselves. And it shows what happens when everybody was 292 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: by all accounts, peaceful and nice and advocated their government 293 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: via the sternly, strongly worded emails and phone calls, and 294 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: you made a difference and we all will benefit from that. Look, 295 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: I want as many people who are good and decent 296 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: members of society covering our government as possible, because the 297 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: more information we get, the more informed we are, and 298 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: everybody should be invested in that. Yeah, and we can 299 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: chalk this up to a victory of peaceful, nonviolent, but 300 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: stern participation. 301 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 302 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk about what the mayor of 303 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: Noblesville did, because I need you to step in on this, Okay, say, okay, 304 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: we'll do say Rob, you're totally out of bounds on 305 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: this or you're right on this. So the city Noblesville, 306 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: we talked about this before, decide. 307 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: Now. 308 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: The multiple news outlets that I saw said the cost 309 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: of this was ninety three million dollars. If the city 310 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: would like ninety three million was the cost of what 311 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: the cost of all? I'm gonna get to that, Okay, okay, 312 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: And if the City of noblesvill would like to dispute this, 313 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: then that that's fine. They can let us know what 314 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: the actual cost was and show that where these media 315 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: outlets are wrong. But they said ninety three million dollars 316 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: for a taxpayer funded stadium, I guess you could have 317 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: concerts there and various other events, but the primary. 318 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: Tenant, tendont tenant tenant. 319 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: The primary tenant, it's gonna be the G League team 320 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: now known as the Boom. They were the mad Ants 321 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: before but now now known as the Boom for the 322 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers. The what Okay, Now, you're gonna have to 323 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: explain to me somebody who is not up to date 324 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: on their sports get ball. What the heck is a 325 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: G League team? Where's the B and the C and 326 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: the D and the E and they don't exist. It 327 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: just basically goes right to right to G. 328 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: Okay. 329 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: So it's the equivalent of, for lack of a better term, 330 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: and this isn't exactly right, but the Indianapolis, Indiana are 331 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: the Triple A team for the Pittsburgh Pirates, right, so 332 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: they are the minor of the Indians and basketball or baseball. 333 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. 334 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: It's a say yeah, it's the Indians equivalent for the 335 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers, Okay. And so they the fine citizens of Noblesville, 336 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: by choice or by force, spent ninety three million dollars 337 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: to build this stadium for the now Boom former matt 338 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: Ants to have a stadium to play in. And of 339 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: course the Boom are owned by the people owned the Pacers, 340 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: and I don't know if you've checked how wealthy the 341 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: Simons are Ethan, but they're not going to be in 342 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: the soup kitchen line anytime soon. So you have another 343 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: example of municipalities using money from poor and middle class 344 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: people to facilitate stuff for billionaires. Do we not have 345 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: enough sports teams in this city to do with the 346 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: soccer and the baseball and the basketball, the football, and 347 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: we need another one, we need an whatever. 348 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: There's never enough, Ethan, Okay, never enough. Okay. 349 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: By the way, Fisher's built a hockey stadium, well it's 350 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: not actually they play hockey there. It does other things 351 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: than hockey. The FICK, I think is what the nickname 352 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: of it is, sounded like you said, I can believe 353 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: it's f I c ok is the is the is 354 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: the name of it. Hammer's been there at numerous times 355 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: for the Indie Fuel to play in, so apparently like 356 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: one stadium that the Boom and the Fuel could both 357 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: be in that wasn't gonna work. They've got to have 358 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: their own stadiums to play in. This is sounding pretty 359 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: ridiculous already, Okay, but so they have their the Boom 360 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: had a game at this this taxpayer funded monstrosity in Noblesville, 361 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: and the there is a photo Scott Agnes who covers 362 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: the Pacers and covers. 363 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,239 Speaker 2: The the the Boom. He tweeted this out. 364 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: It said Noblesville Mayor Chris Jensen recognized after the first quarter. 365 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: He presented Rachel Simon representing Pacers ownership with the of 366 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: the city. Also pictured Boom President Ryan Grant ps and 367 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: e that's paid Pacer Sports and Entertainment CEO Mel Reins 368 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: and so the mayor of Noblesville, Chris Jensen is his name, 369 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: retweets this picture and says things you never thought would 370 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: happen in your life for a thousand feet, doesn't he 371 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: mean for ninety three million? Yea, yeah, first of all, yeah, 372 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: very good. I'm looking at this quing you insufferable a hole. 373 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: Your taxpayers pay ninety. 374 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: Three million dollars. 375 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: Oh. By the way, the jersey that they gave him, 376 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: the little tag at the bottom, has his name on 377 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: the bottom. So so you know the presentation. It's the 378 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: boom jersey, but it's got his name. It is, like 379 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: I said, City of Noblesville or taxpayers, So you give 380 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: these people this stadium, Your taxpayers paid for. 381 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: It, and the team gets the key to your city, 382 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 2: not the people who paid for the stadium. 383 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: Oh and your name is on the jersey, not the 384 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: taxpayers who. 385 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: Paid for this. Yeah. I don't think that's worth it. 386 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: But what would have made it worth it, Rob, is 387 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: if they put I just spent or the taxpayer spent 388 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: ninety three million dollars in All I got was this 389 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: lousy key shirt on the jersey. What did the pelt 390 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: or it's to entertainble? Do they go there and play 391 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: in the stadium that you built for them? Why are 392 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: they getting a key to your city? What about the people? 393 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: We never thank the taxers? Why did the jersey say 394 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: taxpayers on it? What did the mayor. 395 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: Spend ninety three million of his own money? Why does 396 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: he get the jersey? Now? 397 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: Do they get to keep the concessions revenue like the 398 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: cushy deal here at Lucas Oil Stadium, or at least 399 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: are the taxpayers getting some return on the revenue from 400 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: their hearty and hefty investment. We'll have to look into 401 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: how that actually works. 402 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: I would guess that why do we give away the 403 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: concession revenue? 404 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: Shouldn't we be making money on the investment, Like, if 405 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: this is being sold as an investment for taxpayers, if 406 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: it's actually generating something that is beneficial to the community, 407 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: and this is a very affluent, wealthy sports team that 408 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: is owned by a very affluent, wealthy family, then shouldn't 409 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: we be getting that revenue on the concessions with you 410 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: buy a hot dog? 411 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: Well, I would guess. 412 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that for the Noblesville boom, maybe the city 413 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: of Noblesville does get to keep that money, though I 414 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: don't want to say that's a definitive because I don't know. 415 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 2: Well now, with the collogy, that would be delightful if 416 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 2: it was true. 417 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: With the colds, the legislature just rolled over and played 418 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: dead and said, whatever you'd like, mister Ersay, we can't 419 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: have you moving to Los Angeles. So what pisses me 420 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: off about that Rob is that we bought his billion 421 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: dollar guitar collection. And look, anybody is entitled to buy 422 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: whatever collectible they wish, as long as it's with their 423 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: own money. Guess what I buy many antique phonographs. My 424 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: house is stuffed with them. I love antiques. Collecting things 425 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: is cool, but I have to pay for all that 426 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: crap myself, because the taxpayers are not subsidizing my cost 427 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: of doing business. So I'm not wrong for being outraged. 428 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, you are absolutely correct about being out Okay. 429 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 2: Very good, all right. Ethan'son for Casey. WIBC. 430 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: So Business Insider says that the baby boomers are essentially 431 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: clogging up America. Shocker, let's get into this. This is fascinating. 432 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: It's kind of a Casey show. I'm rob Casey's out today. 433 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: Ethan's in for Casey. It is his birthday, by the way. 434 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: Uh so, happy birthday to Ethan Hatcher. 435 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: Thirty three years young. So the official. 436 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: Title of this article is baby Boomers have turned into 437 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: Generation Can't Let Go. And what they're talking about is 438 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: how many people, unlike previous generations, are struggling to move 439 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: forward in various aspects of society. Because people from the 440 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: baby Boomer years, which is described as forty six. 441 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 2: To sixty four. 442 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: So if you were born between forty six and sixty four, 443 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: so the low end of that would be early sixties, 444 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: the upper end of that would be almost eighty years 445 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: old now. But they said, so many of these these 446 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: baby boomers have not exited. 447 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 2: The workforce or various roles in society that. 448 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: The people are struggling to move up until these baby 449 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: boomers move out. They have been the bane of the 450 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: millennial generation for going on thirty years now. 451 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 2: They just refuse to leave. 452 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: And that because that's because they have all their grubby 453 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: little hands over the levers of power, whether it's government, 454 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: whether it's equity, whether it's a private business. 455 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: You're right, they just they won't go away. 456 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: So then the question becomes what do you do about it? 457 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: And part of you would say, well, they must be 458 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: doing sort of an okay job if people keep whether 459 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: it's elect because what have you had Now? 460 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: You had. 461 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: Clinton was the first baby boomer president. You had Bush 462 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: after that, who is a baby boomer president. Then you 463 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: had Obama who was not. Then you had Trump, who 464 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: was Biden who is not in the trumpet Like. 465 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 2: I mean, they're all over that. 466 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: Biden so old he was I think out side of 467 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: the baby boomer. 468 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: I was about say it's not because he's too young. 469 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, generation, But yeah, I mean you've had people that 470 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: keep electing these people to run society. You have corporations 471 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: that keep these people atop the food chain. It has 472 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: to be performance driven in you know, at least well, 473 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying in the case of running a company, you know, 474 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: those people are there to make money and some. 475 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: Kind of they own the company. Well, but I'm saying. 476 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: These you know, these Wall Street type you know, Fortune 477 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: five hundred places to have baby boomers running the show. 478 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: The biggest issue though in this article, which is fascinating 479 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: to me, is they're talking about how baby boomers seem 480 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: to not be willing to sell their homes. Sure that 481 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: multiple homes O cases, multiple homes, Yes, And because of that, 482 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: like where you've had previous generations, Hey, I'm downsizing and 483 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: I'm you know, moving to so and so. Part of 484 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: that probably is though the homes are so expensive now, 485 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: if you've been in a home for thirty forty years, 486 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: you'd probably be a fool to actually sell it unless 487 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: there's something else you really wanted, because you probably own 488 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: it outright, and when it would cost to replace anything 489 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: close to that, it's going to be more expensive than 490 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: what you probably got. And so I think the economy 491 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: has played as much a role in this as the 492 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: baby boomers just being sticks in the mud. This is 493 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: a temporary frustration at best. Rob asked, not for whom 494 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: the bell tolls, because eventually it will toll for the. 495 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: What Look, the clock is gonna run run out. 496 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: Eventually, and millennials are going to be the beneficiaries of 497 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: the largest economic transfer of wealth in US history. 498 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: Nobody talks about X. You ever noticed that? Yeah, they're 499 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: the forgotten generation. 500 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: Like it just it skips. People always talk about the boomers. 501 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: They were eclipsed by the boomers. I feel sorry for 502 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: jen X. Yeah, yeah, you're right, because what the low 503 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: is it? Eighty or eighty one? So X is basically 504 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: like sixty five to eighty or eighty one, I think 505 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: is the number what came after Jen? I thought that 506 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: was millennium. No, that's millennials, That's what I'm saying. So 507 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: millennials started in the nineties then. 508 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: So no, no, no, no, no, no no, no. CAV looked 509 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 2: that up. 510 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: The millenia. No no, no, no no, the millennium. I am 511 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: a millennial. I'm a millennial. 512 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: You're yes, it's a wide look that up. Mollennials are 513 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty one to nineteen ninety six. Thank you. We 514 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 2: don't argue with me on my own show. What are 515 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: you doing? Ethan come on, yeah, yeah, all right, I mean, 516 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: what's wrong. 517 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: Look, I thought millennials are nineties, So you think about 518 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: somebody on the low end of that is in their 519 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: mid to upper forties. Now, if you're a if you're 520 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: on the low end of X, and if you're on 521 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: the high end of X, you're sixty years old. 522 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: So you're right. 523 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: The clock is ticking in terms of the ability to 524 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: elevate yourself. 525 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 2: Or move forward. 526 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 1: And by your analysis, you're right, the biggest beneficiary probably 527 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: won't be X. 528 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: It will be the next generation. You see. 529 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: Like as the dour atheist, I can afford to be grim. 530 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: That's my job here. We're going to keep working on you, Ethan. 531 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 1: I'm not giving up on you yet. From something we're 532 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: chuckling about to something that is not funny at all. 533 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: But it's made a lot of local news. Is this 534 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: shooting and we haven't really touched on it yet on 535 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: this program, the shooting in Boone County that took place 536 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: last week. 537 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 2: Have you followed this at all? I have not. You're 538 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 2: gonna have to tell me about that. 539 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: So this was in White's town and this are you 540 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: talking about the cleaning list cleaning lady? Yeah, and I'm 541 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: assume most people are you know, at least have a 542 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: cursory knowledge of this, but if you don't, this is 543 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: a very bizarre story in which allegedly this cleaning lady 544 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: goes to this house. She's at the wrong house. Somehow 545 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: she has a key to get in the house though, 546 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: so she is doing Obviously that key wouldn't work at 547 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: that house, I wouldn't think, but she's somehow she's fidgeting 548 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: with the door or there's no appearance that she entered 549 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: the house yet, but they're still working through the facts 550 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: of the case. Anyway, Tragically, she is shot allegedly by 551 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: somebody inside the house, and you know, nine one one 552 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: is called, the emergency responders show up and tragically sheet 553 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: she died. And the funeral for this this lady was 554 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: over the over the weekend and you know, huge turnout. 555 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: And now this Boon County Prosecutor, Kent Eastwood is his name, 556 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: has said, hey, it's going to be a few more 557 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: days before we can kind of decide what's going on 558 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: because we have to sort through all of this evidence. 559 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: And so it sort of comes into this, you know 560 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: what the castle doctrine, right where if some if you are. 561 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: If someone is attempting to enter your property or has 562 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: entered your property, you have the ability to use deadly 563 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: force and you're you're just you know, by the way, 564 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 1: always consult your trained legal professional, but we have one 565 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: of those on this, we do, Guy Ralford. Yes, and 566 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: I've heard him talk about this, But I want to 567 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: clarify to people, I am not a legal professional. I'm 568 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: just a guy who hears other legal professionals and parrots 569 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: back what they say. But you have the right to 570 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: use deadly force to protect yourself. The question is, though, 571 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: if this woman was not entering the house, how how 572 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 1: did it result in deadly force? Because if somebody it's 573 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: like outside your house, what's reasonable to you know, to hey, 574 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: you're in the wrong place, or you know, if somebody 575 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: came to your house even was trying to get in 576 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: your door, wouldn't you be like, can I help you? 577 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 2: You know? Would you just fire first? 578 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: There's so many things that are unknown right now, and 579 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: that's what the prosecutor's trying to sort through. Yeah, I 580 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: think this whole case would hinge on whether or not 581 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: the occupant had a reason to believe that they were 582 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: under imminent threat of deadly force, which would justify retaliatory 583 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: force being used. 584 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: Now, whether you could. 585 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: Construe that, as you know, if they were attempting to 586 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: enter the house, that would justify an immediate deadly response. 587 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a terrible case. 588 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: Well, and of course Fox fifty nine other people have 589 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: covered this that they have found according to these reports, 590 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: what time did this take place in the morning? How 591 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: early in the morning, Like, is it's still dark out, 592 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: because if somebody if it's the middle of the night, 593 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: if it's dark and somebody is attempting to jimmy the lock, 594 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm probably going to be less understanding than if this 595 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: happens during. 596 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: Daylight hours shortly before seven am. 597 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So it's still dim ount right, And what's interesting 598 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: about this and what they're going to have to sort 599 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: through is that according to these multiple reports from Fox 600 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: fifty nine and others, the shot came from inside the 601 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: house and there. 602 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: Is a bullet hole through the wall. 603 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: So whoever it was, according to this was firing from 604 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: the inside of the house through the wall that struck 605 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: the woman and ultimately killed her. If indeed it's accurate. 606 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to update everybody on that. The 607 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: prosecutor said, Hey, it's still going to be a few 608 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: more days at least before we have some sort of 609 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: charging decision in this, and obviously us, the news everybody 610 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: will keep you up to date as we get more information. 611 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: How do you think the citizens are going to respond 612 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: to this if, in fact, Indiana's castle doctrine comes to 613 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: the rescue here and prevents charges from moving forward. Well, 614 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a going to be a national story 615 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: and that's what it's going to come down to, is, 616 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: And that's what sort of the prosecutor was saying. He said, Look, 617 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: I gotta get every single piece of evidence at my 618 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: disposal and then compare it to what the law actually says. 619 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: It's not my opinion on it, which is what we 620 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: should want from our prosecutors. He said, Look, it doesn't 621 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: matter what my opinion on it is. I've got to 622 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: look at what does the law say based on the 623 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: evidence that's in front of me, and then make that 624 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: charging decision based on that. So it sounds like this 625 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: guy is doing it all the right way and going 626 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: about it the right way. But you're right, though, Ethan, 627 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: whatever comes out of this, it's probably going to be 628 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: a very controversial case. All right, we'll take a break. 629 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: Hammer joins us. 630 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: Next. Ethan's in for casey ninety three. Wibc Sen. 631 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: Back from the Paul McCartney concerts Chasing Hammer when half 632 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: of the Hammer in Nigel show. 633 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 3: Hello, good to be here, Good morning, Happy birthday, Ethan. 634 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 3: I see I've got a beverage in my hand here. Yes, 635 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: this is my brew of choice. Came in Jack Margarita. 636 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,479 Speaker 3: I think they're pretty good. I didn't even know they 637 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 3: came in a can. Rob the fish these up in 638 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 3: a can. Usually I get him in a little glass bottle. 639 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: You want that in the can? Take it right here. 640 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: I believe the words you're looking for is thanks for 641 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: buying those, Rob. That was very nice of you. 642 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: And I'm willing for jd Vance on me right now. 643 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: Say thank you, jd Vance. 644 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: I went to ring it up and I saw the 645 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: price and I said, it cost how much? 646 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 3: Well, you say that about everything. It could be a 647 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 3: buy one, get one free tutsie role and you're gonna complain. 648 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 3: Five years ago this was much cheaper. I got to 649 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: listening to you guys all morning long. You guys saw 650 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 3: it the old grumpy Muppets sitting in the balcony. 651 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: You went to the McCartney concert over the weekend. How 652 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: was that? It was really cool? Man. Now, look, Paul's old. 653 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: Let's not get it twisted. Paul's like in his eighties. 654 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 3: But you look at that dude side by side to say, 655 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 3: Joe Biden, Like, it's not even close. 656 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: They're basically the same age. 657 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 3: I mean, he's energetic, he's talking to the crowd. You know, 658 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: mccartny's not somebody that's up there dancing on stage s right, 659 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 3: But I mean he's doing the head bob, he's playing 660 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 3: all the instruments, he's talking to everybody, firing up the crowd. 661 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 2: Sing alongs now. 662 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: Now, some of these like aged rock stars seem like 663 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: they in some cases grow resentful of their greatest hits, 664 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: of the songs that made them famous, Like they don't 665 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,239 Speaker 1: want they don't want to play that stuff anymore. They 666 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: want to play the b role and stuff like that. 667 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: But Paul McCartney, he seems like a guy that really 668 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: relishes in the highlights of his career. Like he's not 669 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: put off by the enthusiasm and support from fans at all. 670 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: He's every bit of rock star, right, Like his band 671 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 3: was really good, just great, you know performers, the light show, 672 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 3: the everything was good. 673 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 2: He did about thirty six songs. Wow. 674 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: Well, of course every Beatles song is two minutes and 675 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: fifteen seconds. 676 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: A lot of the older Beatles stuff is like two minutes. 677 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: So was he doing Beatles stuff, Wing stuff like all 678 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: of it. 679 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you were hearing everything from help Love Me due 680 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 3: to you know, let It Be, to the Sergeant Pepper days, 681 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 3: to some Wings stuff. 682 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: It was a little bit of everything. 683 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: Man. 684 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 3: He did a good job. He bust out number nine. 685 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 3: I don't remember number number nine, but we get Live 686 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 3: and let Die. 687 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: We did a. 688 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 3: Lot of pyro out there. Looked like, you know, Roman 689 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 3: Reigns was coming. 690 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 2: Out close with a little lovely rita meeter me. 691 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 3: What was cool though, is like there were so many 692 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 3: younger people in that crowd. I anticipated it'd be like 693 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 3: myself and people like my parents' age, but no, Like 694 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 3: because my son, my youngest, is big into the Beatles 695 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 3: and McCartney, he's seventeen. There was a bunch of people 696 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 3: that age there, so I'm assuming probably their parents or 697 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 3: grandparents kind of got him into it. But I mean, 698 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: when McCartney was waving to people like on that motorcade 699 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: that came through. It looked like, you know, all the 700 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 3: young chicks were like freaking out. 701 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: See, Ethan, this is where you could meet your future 702 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: wife at the concerts Now the Beatles cont that sounds 703 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: like something I could do. That's where it's at. 704 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 3: Can we do great moments in Ethan Hatcher history? 705 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: Sure? 706 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 3: So the last time Ethan was in studio, you brought 707 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 3: one of your. 708 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: Big phonograph things here, and some people don't know that's 709 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: what you do. You collect vintage phonograph like his whole 710 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,479 Speaker 1: house is just lined with them. 711 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and apparently the office is right for show and tell. 712 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 3: So you brought this big ass thing in. You sit 713 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 3: it here on this microphone station where I'm talking right now. 714 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 3: But the thing is, you didn't take it with you 715 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 3: when you left. So we come in to do our 716 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 3: afternoon show. This big freaking thing is still here. We've 717 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 3: got guests coming by. 718 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: You know, we've got to move it. 719 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 3: So we took it and we put it in Matt 720 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 3: Hiblin's office, and then a very confused, somewhat angry Ethan 721 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 3: walks in studio looking for us phonograph and we blamed 722 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 3: it on John Herrick, and we said Eric broke it. 723 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: Well, you said Herrick was taking video of it. 724 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: The reason why I didn't haul that thing out of 725 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: there after the show was done was because I went 726 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: straight out of this station over to the Imax to 727 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: catch a rescreening for the fortieth anniversary of Back to 728 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 1: the Future, and man, that film still holds out. We 729 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: pondered this a long time ago, and I'm going to 730 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: ask you, it's your birthday when you bring a chick 731 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: back to your house and that's what she's greeted with, 732 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: or just all the phonographs, Like how does that work? 733 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: Do you just act like they're not there? Do you 734 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: explain them to or her? No, I don't act like 735 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 1: they're not there. That's the main draw. I love that stuff. 736 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 3: I want to sound like Steve Correll on The forty 737 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 3: year Old Virgin when like the chick comes back and 738 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 3: all the action figures are in there. 739 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but these are cooler than action faceees. 740 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: Man, do you let her know that that's what she's 741 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: going to walk into or is it some sort of 742 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: surprise party or how do you I just want to prepare. 743 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 3: You for something like the police were talking to the 744 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 3: drunk Randy Travis arrest. 745 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 2: Let's prepare you for something. 746 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: If I have successfully convinced a woman to come back 747 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: to the house, let's just say that it's not a 748 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: surprise that. 749 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 2: Haig birthday Ethan Hatcher. 750 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 3: Let's come it up this afternoon, Monday, Gun Day Guy 751 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 3: Rulford will join us. We'll recap fun sports weekend, some 752 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 3: chaotic road action this morning, law school delays, what the hell, 753 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 3: and we'll have some fun. 754 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break when we come back. 755 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 2: Tom Labianc going to be with us. 756 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: He is the guy who broke the AI porn story 757 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: allegations in the Lieutenant Governor's office. 758 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 2: We'll sort of reset everything that's going on with Lieutenant 759 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: Governor ninety three WIBC