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Speaker 2: James Boyd, Kevin Bowen, Jeff Rickard, Mark Dyden over there

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Speaker 2: messing with people and using using the statements out of

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Speaker 2: context for his own I don't know what would you say,

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Speaker 2: just your own humor? How would you describe it?

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: That's never happened to ever be talking about. Uh, we're

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Speaker 4: coming up at eight o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Stephen Holder is going to stop by talk Colts and

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Speaker 2: NFL with this Trent Green. At nine o'clock we'll talk

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Speaker 2: Indiana football. Did you guys see in the NBA last

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Speaker 2: night Jannis and Tendekoupo booing back at the Milwaukee fans

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Speaker 2: in the middle of a game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Has it soured?

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Speaker 6: There?

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Speaker 7: Is it?

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Speaker 3: Over there?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 8: Some additional context I guess is because about a week ago,

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Speaker 8: our guy at the Athletics, Sam Ammick, spoke to Jannis

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Speaker 8: one on one and he quoted him verbatim saying, I

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Speaker 8: would never demand a trade, I would never ask for

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Speaker 8: a trade out of Milwaukee. So there's the backdrop of

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Speaker 8: all of this, because now I'm thinking, well, are you

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Speaker 8: just going to get to the point where you butt

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Speaker 8: heads with your fan base so much that the team

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Speaker 8: welcomes the trade. Now, I will say this, I would

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Speaker 8: never trade Jannis. I would figure it out some other

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Speaker 8: way or whatever. I would not want to be the

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Speaker 8: GM that gets rid of Jiannisintocompo, just like I would

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Speaker 8: want to.

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Speaker 5: Be the GM who got rid of Luca. I wouldn't

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Speaker 8: But very weird situation to try to justify booing your

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Speaker 8: own fans back after losing by thirty plus points.

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Speaker 5: The vibes are bad in Milwaukee right.

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Speaker 2: Now, which is crazy because how far away are there?

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Speaker 4: What four years now, we've removed from a championship.

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Speaker 5: One and in twenty twenty one, so.

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Speaker 4: I'm working on five years, working on five years, and

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Speaker 4: it just.

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Speaker 2: Does You're right, though, it doesn't feel settled at all

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 8: I mean, Miles is struggling, but again, it's not even

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Speaker 8: about the Miles angle of it.

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Speaker 5: It's just your overall team construction.

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Speaker 8: I don't think anybody who watched that team last year

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Speaker 8: and knew who Miles Turner was, at least in this market,

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Speaker 8: expected them to make some grand leap. It was Gianna's

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Speaker 8: got to put the cape on, and we'll hope that

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Speaker 8: Worl'll be a tough out and maybe have some injury

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Speaker 8: luck and get through the next round of the playoffs

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Speaker 8: or whatever. But right now they're a bad basketball team.

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Speaker 2: This is his quote after the game about being booed

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Speaker 2: by his hometown fans. It doesn't matter. I played basketball

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Speaker 2: for my teammates. They played basketball for myself and my family.

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Speaker 2: When people don't believe in me, I don't tend to

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Speaker 2: be with them. I tend to do what I'm here

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I've never been part of something like that before,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think it's fair. I don't. But everybody

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell them what to do or

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Speaker 2: how they should act when they don't play hard, or

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Speaker 2: After I've been here thirteen years, and I'm basically the

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Speaker 2: all time leader in everything unquote.

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Speaker 5: Last line was a bar.

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Speaker 9: I'm still laughing at the bucks thinking that trading for

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Speaker 9: Miles Turner was going to cure all.

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Speaker 8: I don't think that they did, truthfully, have you gave

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Speaker 8: that they're just that desperate. I think they were like,

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Speaker 8: let's do whatever we can to just show Giannis we're trying.

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Speaker 10: Hope, pray, yeah, beg Yeah.

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Speaker 8: The same question I threw out there for like, if

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Speaker 8: Tyre's Halliburton, you're doing whatever it's possible to try.

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Speaker 5: To keep him in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 8: Now that's not the same because obviously Tyre's wants to

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Speaker 8: be here right now. But I'm just saying in theory,

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Speaker 8: in stretch provision with Damian Lillard, that's what you're doing

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Speaker 8: that for. It's to show the star. Hey, we're trying,

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Speaker 8: but you all know, I mean, they're not idiots. Miles

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Speaker 8: it's like I said, it's rough out there.

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Speaker 4: You feel terrible for the Milwaukee Bucks, though, don't you?

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Speaker 4: Doesn't it just pull it you?

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Speaker 5: Hey, somebody find this a cold man.

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Speaker 2: It's Fan Morning Show ninety three five one oh seven

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Speaker 2: five The Fan. I know that things the farther we

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Speaker 2: get away from the Chris Ballard press conference, things start

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Speaker 2: to settle down just a little bit. But now that

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Speaker 2: we are many days removed from that, Kevin Bowen, what

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Speaker 2: is the reality for the Indianapolis Coats as they wake

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Speaker 2: up this morning and they look at the coaching carousel

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Speaker 2: that's going on, and they start to get ready for

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Speaker 2: what they want to do with their roster, who they're

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Speaker 2: going to keep, who they're gonna let go, how they're

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Speaker 2: going to rearrange the salary gap. Is it anything different

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Speaker 2: and more in focus today than it was five days ago?

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Speaker 9: Well, I think we did learn from Chris that obviously

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Speaker 9: he feels like the defense needs some retooling. Younger and faster,

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Speaker 9: the two words he used, James, you think that's more

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Speaker 9: D line or linebacker By the way.

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Speaker 5: I might go linebacker. I don't need to upgrade your

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Speaker 10: And it could be both.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, about to pick one or the other. I probably

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Speaker 8: the pass rush was with the front four.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, probably more D.

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Speaker 9: I don't disagree linebacker needs some help, but I'd probably

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Speaker 9: go more D line just how big pass rush matters. Frankly,

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Speaker 9: that's a good argument. I thought your game, you know,

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Speaker 10: I think Bryce Young was flushed out of the pocket.

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Speaker 9: So again, I think that's probably the biggest ballad related

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Speaker 9: Now how it looks, you know, Jermaine Pratt's a free

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Speaker 9: Quitty Pay I think at one of the more underwhelming,

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Speaker 9: So you know, again you can have kind of a

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Speaker 9: natural changing of the guard there. But still, how much

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Speaker 9: younger do you get? Like, is Trey Hendrickson a free

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 9: These are all sorts of discussions we can get into

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Speaker 2: two three, nine, ten seventy. They're starting to roll in

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Speaker 2: this morning. Dana from Brownsburg says, do you think that

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Speaker 2: the Colts now regret committing to bringing back Shane? With

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Speaker 4: Kind of lingering like, ooh, we should have waited, James.

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Speaker 8: I don't think so, because I think if you were

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Speaker 5: I believe it was the last question.

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Speaker 8: Of the press conference that you got to sneak one

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Speaker 8: in there, Kevin, if you want to enlighten the listeners.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I had on the list to ask about John Harball,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, so you know when a hall of Fame

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Speaker 9: Should they have regret? Yes, Do they have regret? I

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Speaker 2: We are because one of the things that we might

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Speaker 4: Would you rather have him over that person? But the

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Speaker 4: Colts made their.

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Speaker 5: Decision to make that a segment. I'm curious about this.

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Speaker 2: No, I am too, Okay, I'm looking forward to it

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Speaker 2: because I think I like going through exercises like that

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Speaker 2: to see just how married people really are.

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Speaker 4: To the choice that's been made.

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Speaker 2: Because you got you offer different options, all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden they go, oh, I mean that could have been possible.

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Speaker 4: That could have been possible. So we can do some

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Speaker 2: ten seventy uh, Tom says, speaking of the Colts draft

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Speaker 2: free agency, do you think Ballard may just draft all

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Speaker 2: defensive players Kevin Well.

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Speaker 9: If you're any a younger, obviously the draft would be

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Speaker 9: the route to go. Again, you don't have your first

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Speaker 5: The watch guy. You're the guy. Keep you the watch guy.

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Speaker 4: Left charge this morning. I feel naked.

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Speaker 8: last year Kevin that Hey, if Alec Pierce clear's a

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Speaker 8: This year, last game of the season, Alex clears a

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Speaker 5: Very expensive watch.

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Speaker 5: No one's going to pay that for a guy who.

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Speaker 8: Michael Pittman Junior welcome a change of scenery. I know

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Speaker 8: Point where they're like, we want to restructure your contract,

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Speaker 10: Well, I mean that's just not reality here.

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Speaker 9: I mean, there's no debate for me whatsoever. Again, Pierce

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Speaker 10: You know, he's been.

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Speaker 2: Fan Morning Show ninety three five one oh somevent five.

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Speaker 2: The fan James Boyd, Kevin Bowen, Mark didyke Than, I'm

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Speaker 2: jeff Rickard kJ from Brownsberg wants to know, getting younger

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Speaker 4: Is that a fair statement or is it a little

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's mostly a fair statement.

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Speaker 9: Name me a colts player that has moved on from

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Speaker 9: And again we're talking about the early picks, the the

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Speaker 9: He was, he was a valid draft pick.

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Speaker 10: Again, I'm talking about, you know, defensive guys.

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Speaker 8: I just every time I think of a player, it's

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Speaker 10: Yes, like Jerry Hughes for example. You know polion Era

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So to me, I put it more on the

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Speaker 8: I am curious what direction they go in for a

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Speaker 8: What does Luen Rumo want and a guy who's going

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Speaker 8: since they let Nate Ali go Kevin, I don't think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go back and look at some of those

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Speaker 2: That included Kimiko ture Taekwon Lewis, Nahim Hines.

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Speaker 5: Here's the name, Kevin, Bobby o'careke.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, Bobby would probably be the one.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, that is probably the one that you could

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Speaker 4: Scene still play the reason they moved on from him.

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Speaker 5: At the time, it was a reasonable decision because you.

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Speaker 8: You know, they had kind of a log jam and

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Speaker 2: Josh Downs and then twenty four. I'm trying to think

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Speaker 2: twenty four. Who was the first round pick in twenty

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Speaker 2: four A lot too? I think it was a lot too.

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Speaker 4: But point being is to answer the question, have they

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Speaker 4: develop properly the guys that they've brought up.

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Speaker 9: I mean, again, the answer is no on that end, James,

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Speaker 9: anything Taylor Tannembaum said yesterday with us, we kind of

446
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Speaker 9: got the Miami hurricane side of it when she joined us.

447
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Speaker 9: Trent Green, by the way, coming up nine o'clock today,

448
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Speaker 9: former IU quarterback Mark great work.

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Speaker 3: In getting that.

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Speaker 10: But anything from the Miami side of it that Taylor

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Speaker 10: brought up yesterday with us to kind of caught your ears.

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Speaker 8: I want to know if we can have like the

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Speaker 8: IU Connor Stallion's version, somehow make it so Michael Irvin

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Speaker 8: isn't allowed to come to the game, how is he

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Speaker 8: worth a touchdown on the sideline just with his craziness,

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Speaker 8: I know that that works on the sideline, But in

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Speaker 8: all seriousness, I think what she said about this being

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Speaker 8: perhaps the best defensive front that IU is going to

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Speaker 8: face will be a factor. The best pressure rate they're

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Speaker 8: probably going to face is a factor. You just haven't

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Speaker 8: seen this level of dudes quite frankly in the trenches.

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Speaker 8: And going back to the point that I've made since

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Speaker 8: this matchup arrived on the schedule, is can you avoid

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Speaker 8: the disastrous plays that Ruby Baying and company truly tend

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Speaker 8: to make you make? And they've done it so far

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Speaker 8: throughout every stage of this run. Can you avoid the

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Speaker 8: strips that Can you avoid the oh he got rushed

468
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Speaker 8: in his arm, guy hit and he threw a pick?

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Speaker 5: Can you avoid those plays?

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Speaker 8: Because that's what they're known for, And I think those

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Speaker 8: plays can flip a game and give them an advantage

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Speaker 8: where they're still, in my opinion, a very clear underdog.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I think that was a really good point that she made,

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Speaker 9: and again I think it's a different test for Indiana

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Speaker 9: coming up Monday. Then maybe they have already clearly answered

477
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Speaker 9: throughout so much of this. The other thing I would

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Speaker 9: add to is this I think Indiana's biggest strength is

479
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Speaker 9: arguably Miami's biggest weakness. I think Miami's biggest weakness is

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Speaker 9: their discipline, and I think Indiana's biggest strength is their discipline.

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Speaker 9: And if you just want to summarize it in penalties,

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Speaker 9: that goes a long way old.

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Speaker 3: Miss had a great.

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Speaker 9: Chance to win that football game. I think a big

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Speaker 9: reason why was the undisciplined nature to the hur games.

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Speaker 9: I think it was ten was the final total on

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Speaker 9: the penalty count and a lot of just post snap,

488
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Speaker 9: pre snap penalties, just a lot again more in the

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Speaker 9: discipline category. And you look at the Ohio State game

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Speaker 9: when Miami upset the Buckeyes and really I thought for

491
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Speaker 9: the most part controlled that game.

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Speaker 10: They were not.

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Speaker 9: They didn't have a single penalty in that game, which

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Speaker 9: is just kind of crazy, like to think about. You

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Speaker 9: go from zero one week to ten the next and

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Speaker 9: again that has been I would say one of Indiana's

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Speaker 9: most constant aspects to their football team this season. It's

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Speaker 9: just they don't make the sins. They don't make the

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Speaker 9: self inflicted stuff there. So I think that will be

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Speaker 9: a big, big story life. Miami starts creeping up six

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Speaker 9: to seven penalties obviously, if the turnovers, if they don't

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Speaker 9: win that battle, then this will be a coordinator you know,

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Speaker 9: by the start of the fourth.

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Speaker 4: Quarter, let's go. I'm ready to if they end this thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking for a pick six on the very first play, James,

506
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Speaker 2: That's all I want for Indiana.

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Speaker 4: Pick six on the first play.

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Speaker 5: It looks like DiAngelo Ponds has his own pond.

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Speaker 4: Now, yeah, they named one after him down there.

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Speaker 8: So shot out to the IU fan bands for getting

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Speaker 8: that done.

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Speaker 2: All right, coming up in a minute, Steven Holder, we'll

513
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Speaker 2: talk colts with us as we continue to take some

514
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Speaker 2: of your comments over the air and on the line

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Speaker 2: at the fan text line two three nine ten seventy.

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Speaker 2: We'll do it all as we continue next on ninety

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Speaker 2: three five and one oh seven five the fan mark.

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Speaker 2: Are you suggesting by playing that spot that there might

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Speaker 2: be multiple reasons for us to speak to our next guest,

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Speaker 2: Stephen Holder.

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Speaker 3: Maybe a couple.

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Speaker 9: I'm sure it's all to talk about Notre Dame getting

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Speaker 9: waxed by Miami last night.

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Speaker 4: That's probably what it is.

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Speaker 2: Steven Holder joins us now on the Cliquor Cam out

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Speaker 2: line today, I'm just gonna let Kevin and Holder talk

527
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Speaker 2: about basketball last night.

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Speaker 4: I'll give you that on tree to start with. My man.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I'm sure Steven Holder really once to talk

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Speaker 9: about the Miami basketball team right now, Mark, you can

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Speaker 9: kiss my ass.

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Speaker 3: That was and listen. If that's a foreshadow, we all

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Speaker 3: take it. But I mean listen. I actually asked Kevin

534
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Speaker 3: one time, like, are you a bigger Norre Dame basketball

535
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Speaker 3: fan or a football fan?

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Speaker 7: And I think you lean maybe a little bit towards basketball.

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Speaker 7: So a little bit for him was yeah, that's fair.

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Speaker 7: Sadly sick, oh sadly. Yeah, Steven, congrats to your Hurricanes.

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Speaker 7: I'm sure you are locked into all forty minutes in

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Speaker 7: ESPNU like I was.

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Speaker 10: That is very talented Miami my feet.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you.

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Speaker 4: I'm just you know what I was looking for?

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Speaker 3: It It was it was on the East car and

545
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Speaker 3: you that's what it was, all right?

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Speaker 4: You do remember learning it doesn't coach there anymore?

547
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Speaker 3: Right? You do know that it's true. That is true.

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Speaker 2: Stephen Holder joining us on the payless Lickers hotline right now,

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Speaker 2: so I'll ask you the question I was asking the

550
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Speaker 2: guys just a moment ago, and all the things that

551
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Speaker 2: we have seen happen throughout the National Football League with

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Speaker 2: coaching vacancies and guys stepping down and guys being really

553
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Speaker 2: of their duties. Since the Cults announced that they were

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Speaker 2: going to keep everything in place and run.

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Speaker 4: It back, anything hit your your your radar, like, oh,

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Speaker 4: that would have been interesting.

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Speaker 7: Uh well, I mean I guess the thing that got

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Speaker 7: my attention to most, I would say is Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 7: Now was it stunning? No, but but I think you

560
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Speaker 7: know they they when they made the playoffs, you did wonder, Okay,

561
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Speaker 7: are they going to let it slide this time?

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Speaker 3: You know? Is he going to remain in charge? Uh?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I didn't know what to really expect. I don't know

565
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Speaker 7: that anyone knew what to really expect. But but that

566
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Speaker 7: definitely was I think that's definitely the biggest news, even

567
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Speaker 7: though there's been all the speculation and what have you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, he's he's he's a legend, man.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, in this day and age to

570
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Speaker 7: last as long as he has uh in a business?

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Speaker 4: This folla tole.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's pretty remarkable.

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Speaker 8: Again, we have Stephen Holder here on the payloffs Lickers

574
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Speaker 8: hotline fraudulent graduate of Miami University.

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Speaker 5: Man, that was, dude, I haven't seen Kevin.

576
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Speaker 8: I haven't seen a Miami had and I didn't see

577
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Speaker 8: it until like the second round of the cost ball playoffs.

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Speaker 8: I'll have you know, But no, you and you actually

579
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Speaker 8: are you going to the game? What have we talked

580
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Speaker 8: about this?

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Speaker 3: Are you going? I am going? Actually, yes, I am going.

582
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Speaker 7: Yeah it took him doing let me tell you.

583
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Speaker 2: But did you have to did you have to go

584
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Speaker 2: to the second mortgage?

585
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Speaker 4: Where how'd that go down?

586
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Speaker 1: No?

587
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Speaker 7: So the bills are paid, so we're good. I just

588
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Speaker 7: I will just say that it does help to know

589
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Speaker 7: people sometimes, and this is one of those times. I

590
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Speaker 7: mean I rarely ever call in a favor, but I

591
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Speaker 7: called in a favor and I'm going to the game.

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Speaker 3: Let's put it that way.

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Speaker 8: Nice, what you know what, You're gonna be their friend

594
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Speaker 8: and I need a favor from you know, about ten

595
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Speaker 8: fifteen years from now, if we if.

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Speaker 4: We buy you a Kurt Signetti pull over, would you

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Speaker 4: wear that?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think Kurt Signetti is a really nice guy.

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Speaker 7: He seems like a great coach.

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Speaker 10: I'll be honest, you'd be taking off your belt and

602
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Speaker 10: slapping that with it.

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Speaker 5: Do you have a bet with anybody?

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Speaker 3: I'm not wearing that in a million years.

605
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Speaker 8: Do you have a bet with anybody in the market

606
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Speaker 8: Steven Overton or.

607
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Speaker 3: No? Not really?

608
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Speaker 5: Cowwards?

609
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Speaker 3: Oh I don't actually yeah, I don't know if.

610
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Speaker 2: You're aware of this, but Kevin went to you teaches there,

611
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Speaker 2: I've heard this.

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Speaker 3: I am all.

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Speaker 8: Right anyway, this is because it's a weird interview back

614
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Speaker 8: to the real football involving the Indianapolis Colts and the team

615
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Speaker 8: you cover. When you heard Chris Ballard say the number

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Speaker 8: one question that Carly Ursa Gordon wanted to ask him

617
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Speaker 8: and wanted to find out I'd answer for was do

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Speaker 8: you still have your juju shimmer and confidence? Your reaction was, what.

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Speaker 7: Well, my reaction was, I need somebody to define that.

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Speaker 7: I don't know exactly what that means, but I think

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Speaker 7: I know what she meant. But I think it was

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Speaker 7: an interesting question because I guess my thing is like,

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Speaker 7: why why did she doubt that? Like I mean, I

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Speaker 7: guess my point is like if you if like, does

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Speaker 7: he need a bad season to be awoken or something?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

627
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Speaker 7: Like I didn't understand necessarily the logic there. But but

628
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Speaker 7: I don't know. I guess I understand that what it says,

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Speaker 7: I guess is that she thinks that there there is

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Speaker 7: that he still has this this ability, this this magic

631
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Speaker 7: two to find you know, to find talent and so forth.

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Speaker 7: I guess I don't know. But it has been a

633
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Speaker 7: long time, you know. I mean, I think, you know,

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Speaker 7: the the best that twenty eighteen draft class, for example,

635
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Speaker 7: that we always talk about. I mean, I think it's

636
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Speaker 7: the high point of Chris ballad. There's no question about it. Right,

637
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Speaker 7: That is for me, the best draft class in franchise

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Speaker 7: history probably, And you know it it was a long

639
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Speaker 7: time ago, right, I mean, can can he be that

640
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Speaker 7: guy again?

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Speaker 3: Right?

642
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Speaker 7: Can he reach back and find that in him again?

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Speaker 7: Maybe that's what she meant, And I guess we'll find

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Speaker 7: out pretty soon.

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Speaker 9: Steven Holder with us here from ESPN. Stephen just kind

646
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Speaker 9: of rough sketch on the offseason. I view kind of

647
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Speaker 9: Daniel Jones probably won Alec Pierce one A if you will.

648
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Speaker 3: Would you guess.

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Speaker 9: Two to three year deal for Jones, franchise tag for Pierce?

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Speaker 7: H It's really tricky on Jones. I just I don't

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Speaker 7: know what's the best way to approach that. I've thought

652
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Speaker 7: about this a lot, and I think if you I

653
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Speaker 7: think the multi year deal is actually is it's probably

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Speaker 7: more tricky, you know because the only.

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Speaker 9: The only reason I say that is because Chris didn't

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Speaker 9: use the phrase long term.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I asked him that exactly.

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Speaker 7: My question to him was like, are you thinking about

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Speaker 7: Daniel Jones in the long term? Are sorry in the

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Speaker 7: short term or long term? And he said both and

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Speaker 7: and that actually reflects what what we have heard from

662
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Speaker 7: Shane Stykeen as well.

663
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think when you.

664
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Speaker 7: Talk to Shane Stikeen about Daniel Jones, to me, I

665
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 7: think he sees him as as as a guy who

666
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Speaker 7: can be his franchise quarterback.

667
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 3: You know.

668
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Speaker 7: Does that mean two three years? Does that mean five years?

669
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Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know, but I mean I do

670
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 7: think more than like one year, you know, So I

671
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 7: think I leaned towards them trying to do a multi year,

672
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 7: a multi year deal there. I think if you're Daniel Jones,

673
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 7: you probably prefer that, right, I don't know, I mean,

674
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Speaker 7: because I think you you worry about maybe not having

675
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 7: your fastball right away coming off in Achilles and maybe

676
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 7: being judged based on that performance in twenty twenty six.

677
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 7: If it's not you know, elite as maybe he had

678
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 7: been playing last year, so maybe for him a multi

679
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 7: year deal makes more sense. But then the question becomes

680
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 7: what does that look like and what's the right amount

681
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 7: and what is fair and what protects the team. That's

682
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Speaker 7: I think that's really hard. I think it's a very

683
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 7: difficult conversation to reach a consensus on. So I have

684
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 7: no idea what it's going to look like. I think

685
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 7: it's going to be trickier than people maybe think. The

686
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 7: reason I think it happened is because you have two

687
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 7: motivated parties that really want to keep the sides together.

688
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 7: But that doesn't mean it's going to be easy to

689
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Speaker 7: actually accomplish.

690
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Speaker 2: Steven, what do you think is a realistic draft pick package,

691
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: not even package, but a draft pick the Cults could

692
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: get back.

693
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 4: If Anthony Richardson were to become available.

694
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Speaker 3: M You know, I.

695
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Speaker 7: That's a tricky one too. I think you know, he's

696
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 7: not a he's not a bona fide starting quarterback because

697
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 7: you know, he has a mixed record or mixed track record,

698
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 7: but there's there's definitely upside at his age and he's

699
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 7: twenty three. I mean jesus, I mean, like the guys

700
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 7: coming out of college this year in some cases are

701
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 7: that old or older. So, uh, there's a lot of

702
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 7: upside potentially, but then the injury history, so man, it's

703
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 7: it's a really complicated thing. I don't think if you're

704
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 7: a team out there, I don't think you're you're giving

705
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 7: up a really early draft pick because you're not seeing

706
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 7: him as as an automatic answer for your team, right

707
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 7: I think you're bringing him in to compete and to

708
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 7: possibly be a guy for your team. I don't think

709
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 7: that is merely a slam dunk.

710
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

711
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 7: I think it's a mid round pick of some kind,

712
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 7: and if there are multiple suitors, it goes a little

713
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 7: higher to maybe you know, maybe it becomes a third

714
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 7: or something like that. But I think you're probably in

715
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Speaker 7: the fourth round range. Just complete guessworks. But that's kind

716
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 7: of where I think right now.

717
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 8: Older another one for me when you look at what

718
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 8: they have to do in the defensive secondary and I

719
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 8: know it's not a huge deal, but how much do

720
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 8: you think the Travarius Ward potential retirement decision could affect

721
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Speaker 8: this group moving forward?

722
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 7: I mean it's a big effect, There's no question about it.

723
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 7: I mean, I think the one thing that helps them

724
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 7: is they do have Justin Walley coming back from injury.

725
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 7: I don't know where they see him in terms of

726
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 7: the long term. Is he an outside corner, is he

727
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 7: more of a slot option. I'm not sure, but he

728
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 7: definitely someone who's going to play and should play. I mean,

729
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 7: he had a great training camp. I thought they they

730
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 7: really really lost something when they lost him in training

731
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 7: camp last year. But there's no question. I mean they

732
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 7: when they made the Sauce Gardner trade, I mean, the

733
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 7: idea was we will we will have two legitimate number

734
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 7: one quality cornerbacks. If you then lose one, that it

735
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 7: changes the dynamics of that defense. But I think they

736
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 7: have enough to work with in the secondary. They would

737
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 7: have to add make I think a notable addition that

738
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 7: corner if if he retires, that is true, But I

739
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Speaker 7: like the composition of the secondary either way, certainly more

740
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 7: than the front seven. I mean, they got to pour

741
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 7: a lot of resources and time and effort into that

742
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 7: front seven. If it's me, I think you are aggressive

743
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 7: in retooling that front seven. That's what I think they

744
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 7: have to be personally.

745
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Speaker 9: Steven Holder, get ESPN with a Here, Steven, I will

746
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 9: end with this and in regards to your Hurricanes, the

747
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 9: item of this game you are most.

748
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 10: Confident in from a Miami point of view, as.

749
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Speaker 7: What I think that they can play. They can play

750
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 7: stout at the line of scrimmage on both sides. And

751
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 7: I think particularly I've talked a lot about this on

752
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 7: this station this week. I mean, I think their their

753
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 7: power run game is so good and I think it's

754
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 7: the meal ticket here if they can pull it off.

755
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 7: I mean, we'll see how how Indiana hold up against it.

756
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 7: But I mean, look what they did against Ohio State.

757
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 7: Ohio State, Okay, they went out there and they just

758
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 7: ran the ball down their throat at will. And I

759
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 7: think that if they can accomplish that in this game,

760
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 7: they went that was their bread and butter. If they

761
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 7: can do that in this game, I think it will

762
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 7: be to the same degree. But if they can do

763
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 7: that successfully, that evens the playing field. You keep that

764
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 7: that offensive machine off the field, that Heisman Trophy winning

765
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 7: quarterback off the field, and you give yourself an upper

766
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 7: hand and an advantage that you know in a game

767
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 7: where maybe they don't have as many advantages because Indiana

768
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 7: doesn't have a lot of weaknesses. So anyway, that is

769
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 7: what I think they can lean into. And that's not

770
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 7: a bad area to have, you know, some advantages.

771
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: All right for those that are going to Miami for

772
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: the first time. What's the one thing, who's your fans

773
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: headed to Miami need to at least try and do

774
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: or experience while they're down there.

775
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 7: Hmm.

776
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 8: Make sure it's safe these air waves.

777
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 7: Right, exactly right, let's see what you know what, I

778
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 7: definitely think. I definitely think you gotta everybody says, you know,

779
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 7: South Beach on it, I do think, like, yeah, do that,

780
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 7: that's for sure. If you can, it's all, that's great.

781
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 7: But it's for me, it's food, man, it's food, like

782
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 7: get yourself like some bodify either Cuban food, Caribbean food,

783
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 7: like I mean Jamaican, Haitian. I mean my family is

784
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 7: from Trinidad. Like that's that is South Florida for me, right,

785
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 7: South Florida is not like the the beach. For me,

786
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 7: it's like the food. And when you talk about culture,

787
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 7: you're talking about food. That's that's the way I see it.

788
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 7: So a pick a Caribbean country and go get some

789
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 7: of that food.

790
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 3: Man, your life.

791
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: We're looking forward to seeing a two second is so

792
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: close up of dejected, crying Stephen Holder in the fourth.

793
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 4: Quarter on Monday night. That's what we're looking for, all right.

794
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 7: Well, I don't know, man, we'll see. I hope that

795
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 7: will not be the case.

796
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 8: And keep your belt on man till Michael Irvan keep

797
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 8: his belt on too.

798
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: All right, Listen, I hope very much that Michael Irvin

799
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 3: is loosening his belt.

800
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 4: Travel safe, funny thing, travel safe. All right, we'll talk

801
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 4: to you soon.

802
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 10: Have fun, Stephen.

803
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 4: I'm digging it.

804
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 3: Mark.

805
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: We could play this every rejoin from now until Monday night.

806
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 4: They can. People be okay with that. Hopefully they play

807
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 4: this a ton on Monday night.

808
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: James Boyd, you want to hear this about eight times

809
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: on Monday night, don't you?

810
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 5: Yeah?

811
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 8: They would be doing some things come next week if

812
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 8: that happens.

813
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 3: All right.

814
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: Indiana playing in the National Championship Game college football with

815
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: an undefeated record, Still love saying that Monday night against

816
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: the Miami Hurricanes and joining us now.

817
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 4: Guy who played quarterback at Indiana, guy.

818
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: Who played in the National Football League, guy and knows

819
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: a little thing or two about winning and how things work.

820
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 2: Trent Green joining us on the Paylesslikers Hotline this morning.

821
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 4: Trent, how much fun are you having vicariously through all this?

822
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: Hey, good morning guys. I'm having a blast.

823
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 6: It's you know, I'm just sitting here with a smile

824
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 6: on my face as we're talking about Indiana playing in

825
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 6: the National Championship game. I'm just like, wait a second,

826
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 6: I'm about to jump on this interview talking about Indiana

827
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 6: football in the National Championship Game.

828
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 3: It never it never gets old.

829
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 6: I don't know how many times I you know, where

830
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 6: they talk about the Big Ten championship game, the college

831
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 6: football playoffs, the semi finals. Now, all of a sudden,

832
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 6: here you are talking about Indiana going undefeated and being

833
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 6: national champs. So it's a really cool moment for us

834
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 6: former players, and I know it's a really cool moment

835
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 6: for all of Indiana alumni to be in this position.

836
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 6: But yeah, really excited for Monday night.

837
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 4: Tree.

838
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 9: We can't thank you enough for the time here on

839
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 9: this Wednesday morning. First, do you, I guess, have you

840
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 9: met Kurt Signetti at all?

841
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 10: And if you have or if you haven't, what.

842
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 9: Have been your impressions of the job that he has

843
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 9: done in less than two years.

844
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 6: Well, first off, I wanted to reach out to him

845
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 6: right when, right when Scott.

846
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 3: Dolson hired him and brought him in, And of course.

847
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 6: His introductory press conference made a lot of ripples across

848
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 6: college football, or at least across the state of Indiana,

849
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 6: and then the rest of the nation started taking attention

850
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 6: to that introductory press conferences as the last season went along.

851
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 6: But one of the one of the first conversation that

852
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 6: Kurt and I had, he had reminded me and I

853
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 6: and I honestly ed forgotten about it.

854
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: He had reminded me that he recruited me.

855
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 6: He was a quarterback coach at Rice Universe when I

856
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 6: was It was one of his first coaching jobs, not

857
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 6: in the very first, but one of his first coaching jobs.

858
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 3: He was the quarterback coach at Rice University.

859
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 6: I was a high school quarterback coming out of Saint Louis.

860
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 6: Rice was one of the schools that I was looking

861
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 6: at because I have an incredible business school and I

862
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 6: didn't know that football was going to be my future.

863
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 6: I was looking at good business schools and that's how

864
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 6: I ended up at Indiana or one of the main

865
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 6: reasons I ended up at Indiana. But anyway, Rice University

866
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 6: was he was the quarterback coach there. He did not

867
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 6: recruit me, He wasn't the recruiter that covered the Saint

868
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 6: Louis area, but he was the quarterback coach. So when

869
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 6: I went on my busity because I took an official

870
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 6: one of my five official visits, I went to Rice's

871
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 6: and we spent we spent a few hours together, obviously

872
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 6: going over tape and watching and he was in his

873
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 6: twenties and early twenties, and I would have been goss

874
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 6: at that point.

875
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 3: I probably was seventeen maybe eighteen years old.

876
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 6: So he reminded me that we had met, and we

877
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 6: had met for quite some times as he was recruiting me,

878
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 6: and uh, and then and then of course we uh,

879
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 6: you know, had to laugh about that and and and

880
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 6: move forward. But just what an incredible job he's done.

881
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 6: It's phenomenal, you know, his evaluation and talent and you

882
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 6: can understand why. You know, he was Nick Saban's recruiting

883
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 6: coordinator and the talent evaluator for years and years.

884
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: Uh.

885
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: But then he.

886
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 6: Ultimately wanted to you know, get that opportunity to be

887
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 6: a head coach. But it's it's really cool to see

888
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 6: how far he's come and and just what he's done

889
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 6: for the program and how he continues to build it.

890
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 6: You know, in this era of n I L and transfers,

891
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 6: and it's still about getting the right guys.

892
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: It's still about having the right chemistry.

893
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 6: It's still about you know, you can spend all the

894
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 6: money you want, which Indiana is nowhere near as high

895
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 6: as some of these other programs. You've got to find

896
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 6: the right chemistry in that locker room. And he's done

897
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 6: that two years in a row.

898
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 8: Again, we're talking to Trent Green, former i U quarterback,

899
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 8: and obviously I think you're pretty proud of the current quarterback,

900
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 8: that one being Fernando Mendoza. I don't know if you

901
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 8: have a chance to interact with him at all. I

902
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 8: did see you gave him a shout out on Twitter

903
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 8: after he won the Heisman. What's been your impression of

904
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 8: his one season in Bloomington that is now one went

905
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 8: away from the greatest season in that program's history.

906
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's you know, first off, I don't know Fernando.

907
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 6: I purposely like, just like last year with Rourke. I

908
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 6: purposely don't reach out during the season. I'm not trying

909
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 6: to add any more to their plate. I know they're

910
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 6: getting tugged in a bunch of different directions. I'm hoping

911
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 6: to meet him after the season, whether it be f

912
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 6: NAU basketball game when I'm back in town or you know,

913
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 6: as he's getting ready for the draft or whatever that

914
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 6: may be. Would love an opportunity to.

915
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 3: Talk to him.

916
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 6: If that doesn't happen, I'm sure I'll be talking to

917
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 6: him at a production meeting for an NFL team sometime soon,

918
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 6: so we will cross paths at some point.

919
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: But what an incredible job he's done.

920
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 6: And I'm gonna be honest, it's like a lot of people,

921
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 6: I didn't know much about Fernando and I didn't know.

922
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 6: You know, I don't follow a lot of cal football,

923
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 6: so I didn't I didn't really know much about him.

924
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 6: So when they brought him in, uh and they signed him,

925
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 6: I remember them saying, you know, hey, this guy's got

926
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 6: a potential to be a first round pick. He's you know,

927
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 6: he's a guy that can get better. And then, you know,

928
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 6: the first couple of games of the season, I was like, Okay,

929
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 6: well you know, you got to give him. You got

930
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 6: to give him some time, right because the offense to me,

931
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 6: those first few games, even though you know they there were,

932
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 6: you know, a couple of huge blowouts in that, I

933
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 6: was like, Okay, this offense, it's a work in progress.

934
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 6: You got a lot of new guys, you got a

935
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 6: new quarterback trying to get in connection with his receivers

936
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 6: and uh and really, you know this, this is stating

937
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 6: the obvious read. That Illinois game is when that offense

938
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 6: started clicking and when Fernando really started kind of emerging

939
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 6: as the Fernando that we see now. And you can

940
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 6: see the confidence grow not only in him but in

941
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 6: the guys around him on the team.

942
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 3: That's what I love. You know.

943
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 6: I'm sure you guys evade the fun of it. I know,

944
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 6: I've he's got some quirky interviews right that we've seen,

945
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 6: you know, throughout the course of the season.

946
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 3: But the guys on the team love him.

947
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 6: You can see how much his teammates love him and

948
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 6: love what he's all about and how he is unselfish

949
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 6: and how he's such a good leader. And then and

950
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 6: then the quarterback skills obviously go beyond that. So it's

951
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 6: really cool to see what he has done and how

952
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 6: he's grown this season.

953
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: So Trent, when ye as a guy who played in

954
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: the NFL and broadcast NFL games and sees it all.

955
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 2: When you look at his size, his arm strength, the

956
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: way that he operates the team, the way that he

957
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 2: conducts himself at the line of scrimmage and recognizes things

958
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 2: and picks things up, and the leadership qualities that you describe.

959
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: What kind of an NFL quarterback do you see him being?

960
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 6: So all of those things you just said, it was

961
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 6: like check, check, check. I'm like, those are the things,

962
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 6: the qualities that you're looking for, you know, the things

963
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 6: that jump out.

964
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:55,959
Speaker 3: He's got the.

965
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 6: Mobility, he's got the leadership, he's got the accuracy.

966
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: You can see that his teammates love it, the type

967
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: of leader that he is.

968
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 6: For him because you know his to me like he

969
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 6: has he has an incredible arm right, It's like, no

970
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 6: matter where on the field, he's putting it like right

971
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 6: there on the money. It's it's he's incredibly accurate. But

972
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 6: what I don't see is necessarily you know, like the

973
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 6: Josh Allen you know fastball, I don't see you know,

974
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 6: he can he has enough, and he's accurate enough, and

975
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 6: he's got enough arm velocity, something very similar to me.

976
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 6: I always heard people tell that say that about me.

977
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 6: They're like, well, he's got a good enough arm or

978
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 6: he's got a strong enough arm, And I'm like, wait

979
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 6: a second, I could throw it, you know, sixty five.

980
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 3: Yards if I need to. And you know, but there's

981
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: just a.

982
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 6: Difference, you know. I remember going to the combine for me,

983
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 6: it was Drew Bledsoe. We're sitting there going through the

984
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 6: quarterback drills. I saw the ball come out of his hand,

985
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 6: as like, oh, that's why that guy's the number one

986
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 6: overall pick. I don't necessarily see that same same explosiveness

987
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 6: out of Fernando's like velocity wise, but you don't.

988
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 3: You don't need all that.

989
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 6: So to answer your question in terms of how he's

990
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 6: going to translate into you know, an NFL player or

991
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 6: an NFL quarterback, I think he has the potential to

992
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 6: be to be a great NFL quarterback. It's just like

993
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 6: so many guys, he needs to have the right system,

994
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 6: the right coach, someone that you know is running an

995
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 6: offense that fits really well for him. And I'll and

996
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 6: I'll use these as examples, just just a couple of examples,

997
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 6: and it's really a lot of.

998
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 3: It comes out.

999
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 6: Yes, you have to have the talent as the player,

1000
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 6: but you have to have that coaching as well. Look

1001
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 6: at what Caleb Williams with the Bears his rookie year

1002
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 6: compared to now with Ben Johnson. You bring in a

1003
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 6: coach that knows how to develop quarterbacks and puts play

1004
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 6: calling and putting quarterbacks in a good situation. Caleb is

1005
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 6: at a phenomenal second season. Go to New England with

1006
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 6: Drake May his first year, they only won three or

1007
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 6: four games. He played Okay. Now all of a sudden,

1008
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 6: you know, you bring Josh McDaniels back, who's developed a

1009
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 6: lot of quarterbacks, put him in a good situation. Drake

1010
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 6: May is probably going to be the MVP of the league.

1011
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 6: So I think it's important Fernando go to the right

1012
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 6: system in the right situation. But I think this guy's

1013
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 6: the limit for him in the NFL.

1014
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 9: I think that voice needs st introduction. Certainly, hear it

1015
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 9: a lot on CBS. Trent Green, the former IU quarterback.

1016
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 9: He's with us here on the Payless Slickers hotline. So

1017
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 9: you said part of the reason why you chose Indiana

1018
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 9: back in the day was because of their business school.

1019
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 9: If I and I hate to jog the memory of

1020
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 9: you know whatever thirty years ago or so, but do

1021
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 9: you have some fond Bloomington memories, maybe an establishment or

1022
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 9: two that you enjoyed, or your time in Bloomington kind

1023
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 9: of steers what for you?

1024
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 6: You know, it's I've always held Bloomington in Indiana really close.

1025
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 3: We get back as much as we can. The main

1026
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: thing is that I met my wife there.

1027
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 6: We met when we were juniors, just twenty years old,

1028
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 6: and you know, so we just have some incredibly fond

1029
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 6: memories when we get a.

1030
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: Chance to go back. And now all of a sudden,

1031
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 3: with the.

1032
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 6: You know, with the with the National Championship game coming up,

1033
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 6: we're gonna we're going to reunite. I've already coordinated with

1034
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 6: a couple of former teammates and their wives that my

1035
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 6: that I was friends with them because their teammates, but

1036
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 6: then our our wives now were all friends because they

1037
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 6: were the girlfriends back and back in college. So it's

1038
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 6: really cool that that we're all going to be able

1039
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 6: to get together. So those are obviously the first things

1040
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 6: that come to mind. But yeah, there's all all kinds.

1041
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 3: Of things, you know, the whole Kirkwood thing.

1042
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 6: Right, Buffalouis Buffalowies used to be in a different a

1043
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 6: lot now now Buffalouis is closer to campus. He used

1044
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 6: to be way down. It used to be way off

1045
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 6: the beaten path when I was there, you know obviously,

1046
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 6: Well now it's upstairs Pub.

1047
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: It used to be Hooligans.

1048
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 6: Back in the day, Hooligans was was the lower bar

1049
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 6: area and then Upstairs Pub was was like a smaller one.

1050
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 6: Now Upstairs Pub. We were back. Gosh when were we back?

1051
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 6: It was it would have been last basketball season. Uh,

1052
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 6: and we went in there and I was like, man,

1053
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 6: this is this is a completely different setup. But Upstairs

1054
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 6: Pub obviously Nick's Kilroy's, you know, uh, Janko's Little Zagrebs Janko's.

1055
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 3: That's like that you made the tour.

1056
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 6: That's the That's like my go to spot because when

1057
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 6: I came there as a as a recruit, Bill Mallory

1058
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 6: and his staff that was always where they took the

1059
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 6: recruits recruiting weekend, and so that was I still when

1060
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 6: I get back, I'm like, hey, I got I gotta

1061
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 6: get over there, and uh, get one of them, get

1062
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 6: one of them stakes, or maybe a rack of ribs

1063
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 6: or whatever it is, because it's uh, it just brings

1064
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 6: back a lot of nostalgia, uh and memories because of

1065
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 6: you know, some great times there. But uh oh yeah,

1066
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 6: I can't forget Bluebird for live music, right exactly.

1067
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 3: I'll give you the whole years on Wednesday Night. That's right.

1068
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 4: Oh man, Hey, you grew up in Iowa.

1069
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 2: We have a prominent athlete here in Indiana now that

1070
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 2: grew up in Iowa.

1071
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 4: You a big Caitlin Clark fan.

1072
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 3: I am, I am.

1073
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 6: I I have a daughter that plays college volley or

1074
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 6: I have a daughter of that plays college volleyball. So

1075
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 6: I've been a big fan of women's support or women's

1076
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 6: sports and supporting women's sports. And when you see what

1077
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 6: uh Caitlyn Clark has done, it was just astonishing to

1078
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 6: me that the fact that she dribbles across half court

1079
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 6: and she can shoot from anywhere. I mean, and this

1080
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 6: is you know, I'm going back when she was in

1081
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 6: college and she obviously still does it now, but it's

1082
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 6: I remember, like this can't be real. Like those those

1083
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 6: she has. She has a Steph Curry like release, she

1084
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 6: has the accuracy. It's really cool to see what she

1085
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 6: did for for Iowa basketball, but for women's basketball. And

1086
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 6: I know there's other women that have done it. Listen,

1087
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 6: I followed, you know, Sue Bird and and Gino Ariama

1088
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 6: and what he did at Yukon and and Pat Summit

1089
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 6: at Tennessee, and and you know, women's basketball has been around.

1090
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 6: I know there's a lot of this superstar Cheryl Miller.

1091
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 6: I'm going back in my day now. Cheryl Swoops and

1092
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 6: Cheryl Miller. You know, those are the two that really

1093
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 6: kind of jump out to me as women basketball. But

1094
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 6: Caitlyn clark Uh in this new era of athlete, has

1095
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 6: really really.

1096
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 3: Kind of captured the country by storm. And yes, I'm

1097
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 3: a if you can't tell, I'm a fan, Yes sounds good.

1098
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 4: Enjoy the game on Monday night and stay in touch.

1099
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, as you can tell, I'm not excited at all.

1100
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 6: It's in the morning and I'm going to I'm going

1101
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 6: to mount a minute, and I haven't even had any

1102
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 6: caffeine yet. So let's go Hoosiers.

1103
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 2: You're gonna feel like you did on game day when

1104
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: you wake up on Monday, as if you were playing.

1105
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 4: Aren't you Oh, I was so.

1106
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: Wired for this game.

1107
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 6: It's it's crazy because just every having an opportunity to

1108
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 6: talk about Indiana football, and I have a number of

1109
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 6: interviews set up and I'm looking forward to it because it's, uh,

1110
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 6: you know, this is this is unprecedented. What Kurt Signetti,

1111
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 6: what Fernando Mendoz is doing. Uh, you know, it's really

1112
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 6: it's really special to see, you know what the athletic

1113
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 6: department of the school, they're getting behind the football program,

1114
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 6: the fans are getting behind it.

1115
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 3: You go, you know, you go to the air.

1116
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 4: Like I was.

1117
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 6: I went to the game in Atlanta last week, and

1118
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 6: every airport is filled with Indiana fans and you hear

1119
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 6: go Hoosiers, and you hear the chance and you know,

1120
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 6: and then you get in the dome and it's like

1121
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 6: ninety percent Indiana. It's uh, it's been phenomenal what's going on.

1122
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 6: So I appreciate it. Guys, it was great talking to you.

1123
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 5: Are you going to the game?

1124
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 3: I am, I am, I'm gonna. I've gotta yes.

1125
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 6: I was like, I've got to figure out a way

1126
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 6: to get down there.

1127
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 3: So so we are.

1128
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 6: I'm trying to, like I said, I'm coordinating with some

1129
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 6: some former teammates and their wives and we're all gonna

1130
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 6: we're all gonna get together and uh and uh and

1131
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 6: hope for one more, hope for one more, get it done.

1132
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 8: What some of your you know, back order n I

1133
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 8: l together and then put that towards the tickets that

1134
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 8: you got to get for the game.

1135
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing.

1136
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 6: I've had so many former coaches and teammates reached out going.

1137
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 3: Hey, you got to connect, Hey, you got the connect.

1138
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 6: I'm like, guys, if I had one hundred tickets I

1139
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 6: wouldn't be able to fill them all with every you know.

1140
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 3: It's the university has been great with me. You know.

1141
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 6: It's uh, yeah, I just I just can't get off.

1142
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 6: I mean, obviously I'd love to help everybody and and

1143
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 6: you know, but it's, uh, it's the ticket is in demand,

1144
00:52:58,600 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 6: and rightfully so.

1145
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: Need Trent Green at the coin toss Monday night, standing

1146
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: across from Ray Lewis.

1147
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 3: That's that's that's happened many times before. That's pray. How

1148
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 3: that ended out. That's pray. How that ended up.

1149
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 4: I'm guessing not not the way Ray wanted it to.

1150
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 6: Here's the funny thing, though, is he likes getting up

1151
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 6: with the line of scrimmage and talking.

1152
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 3: So he he would always come up and tight and

1153
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 3: I would.

1154
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 6: Never make eye contact with him, and it would just

1155
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 6: irritate the hell out of him. So I would just

1156
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 6: kind of like move my head and like look around him,

1157
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 6: and he would try and get in the way to

1158
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 6: make eye contact when he's at the line, and and

1159
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 6: and I did it on purpose because I knew how

1160
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 6: much it irritated him. But that's no right, Ray's obviously

1161
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 6: Hall of Famer and incredible, So yeah.

1162
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 3: It'll be.

1163
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 6: It'll be if I get the chance to catch up

1164
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 6: with him, I definitely will. We we uh, we had,

1165
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 6: we had a few battles over the years.

1166
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 4: I'm taking Is it wise to irritate Ray Lewis when

1167
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 4: he's on the other side of the line of scrimmage.

1168
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 6: When you're a quarterback, that's the only thing you can

1169
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,439
Speaker 6: do is starting to annoy people like that. Right, It's

1170
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 6: not like I can hit him, it's not like I

1171
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 6: can run him over. It's uh, you know, you just

1172
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 6: try and you just try and have a little fun

1173
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 6: with him, or.

1174
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 3: At least I did.

1175
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 4: I have fun on Monday nights. Is what you need

1176
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 4: to do. And we'll talk to you again soon. Trent,

1177
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 4: thank you all right, sounds good.

1178
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Guys, have a good one. Thank you

1179
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 3: for