1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: We're about to teach the Indiana Secretary of State. It's 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: a little lesson in transparency. I'm so excited about this. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: This is going to be an amazing segment and we'll 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: learn about what happened to the White House moving good 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: for everyone, right, yeah, all right, it's Kettley Casey Show. 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm Rob Casey's here. Look who it is, our old 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: pal Indiana state representative. He represents Indianapolis. Andrew Ireland. Andrew Ireland, Hello. 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: Good morning, good to be with you. 9 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 3: Now. 10 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: It's not often, look, I give a lot for this show, Casey, 11 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: and sometimes I have to put myself in a bad 12 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: position in order to do something great for the radio broadcast. 13 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: It is not often somebody gets a one up on 14 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: me on social media. But I said, if you're going 15 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 1: to do that, you win. But let's get something good 16 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: out of it. So Andrew was a part of the 17 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: group that went to DC and there was several articles 18 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: written about how a lot of these people were probably 19 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: going to put that tab on us, the taxpair, and 20 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: he had posted several photos looking wonderful like a million 21 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: damn dollars like he always does, and I just see 22 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: I said something the FACTI I said you could have 23 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 1: thanked the taxpayers, and then to shade to you, you responded, 24 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: smooch both of my butt cheeks a hole. I paid 25 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: for this myself, right, And I said, okay, well done, 26 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: And then you reached out and said, I'd be happy 27 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: to show everybody how transparency works and bring all of 28 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: my receipts. 29 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. 30 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: Now, before we get to the receipts, I do want 31 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: to ask you you did have the opportunity to have 32 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: it taxpayer funded. 33 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: I think that's right. I think typically it's one policy 34 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: related event per year that reasonable expenses can be reimburse 35 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: whether that's a conference or trip in the White House, 36 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: whatever it may be. If it's policy focused, not political, 37 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: then yeah you could. 38 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: You could have done it, but you chose not to. 39 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: Why. 40 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: You know, typically, if I can pay for it myself, 41 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,279 Speaker 2: I do well my own you know, kind of private practice. 42 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: It's an attorney. But I don't really see any reason 43 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: to put that on the taxpayer's dime if I don't 44 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: need to. 45 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we do give you money, right your kitchen. 46 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: That's absolutely right. Yeah, okay, So before we get to 47 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: their seats, because this is hilarious tell us about the trip, 48 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: and one of the things that you'd pointed out is, Hey, 49 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: they asked us to go away before the redistricting. I 50 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: think you guys, you guys being the Republicans, have done 51 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: a horrible job of giving information to the public about 52 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: what exactly you were doing there, because all the story 53 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: now centers around the redistricting stuff. 54 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you I always try to be very transparent. 55 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons I'm here today right is 56 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you see all the 57 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: reporting in the news and the kind of hyperventilating about 58 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 2: what this was about. And no, you know, you must 59 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: have been sitting down with the President for ten hours 60 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: and they're, you know, trying to twist your arm. The 61 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: reality is it wasn't. We've had an invite since sometime 62 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: men late July to come out to the White House 63 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 2: and that was before JD. 64 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: Vans came here to India. 65 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: Well before JD. Vans ever came to Indiana. Redistricting really 66 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 2: became a conversation here in Indiana. So I just want 67 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: to make clear on that. 68 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: How does the invite work? Do you get like a 69 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: nice card in the mail? Does Houston, like send out 70 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: a group email, like how does the invite actually work? 71 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: So actually get out an invitation by email from the 72 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: White House. 73 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: So you don't think it was like one of those 74 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: click here and then you end up giving money to 75 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: a nice print. Yeah no, but it's a real or not. 76 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: I actually thought the same thing the first time I 77 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: saw that, I said, what is that? And you know, 78 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: I assumed that it was some sort of junk spam mail. 79 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: Then somebody else sent me a text message about it, 80 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: and I go, oh, okay, maybe that is real. 81 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: So it's very cool. So tell us about the meeting, 82 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: like you guys did You did talk about redistricting, so 83 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: there was a very small piece of it, I will say. 84 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: So I were there for an entire day to you 85 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: kind of the normal tour that everybody else in the 86 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: world can take if you can get scheduled at the 87 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: White House. You touch things, you know, they actually they 88 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: told you don't touch The wall in the Red room 89 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: was the big thing. 90 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: It's made up that you took the East Wing tour. 91 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: It took the East Wing tour, so you know, the 92 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: same thing that anybody else can do through the cold. 93 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: I've never been in the White House very excited about that, 94 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: and then the afternoon was all policy focused, met with 95 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: people you know throughout the White House. You gave like 96 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: very specific proposals on what they're doing and things that 97 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: Indiana can do to help them. I mean everything from 98 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: like snap reform as far as like you know, foodstamp 99 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: type benefits, to things like the death penalty. You know, 100 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: we have the federal death row here in Indiana, so 101 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: they're actually subject to Indiana law as far as what 102 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: means they can do to carry out justice. 103 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: So I need at tear hote, right, that's right? Yeah, Okay, 104 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: So did you get the like that's just like why though, Like, 105 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: why do they need you guys to all fly out there? 106 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: I think that every person looks at that and goes 107 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: the timing is very interesting, and you're just saying that's 108 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: a total coot. That's all a coincidence that that's that 109 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: they sit you guys out there right as this whole 110 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: thing was going on. 111 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: I got to say, I actually think it is this time. 112 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: If you look at it, there's actually about six or 113 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 2: seven other states have also done this, including states that 114 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 2: don't really have the ability to redistrict because their map 115 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: is already you know, either unilaterally, republican or whatever that 116 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: may be. Right, states that aren't in that conversation right now, 117 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: they're also doing this same sort of trip. But the 118 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: whole point is in this administration is trying to push 119 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: some of the power back down to the states where 120 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: it belongs. I think we've got a long way to 121 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: go as far as that's concerned. But if you're going 122 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: to do that, that means you have to good partnerships 123 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: and good readership in the states to actually see those 124 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: things through. 125 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: And I appreciate that because Andrew Ireland is our guest, 126 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: and he had a state rep. He was at the 127 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: White House the other day. I mean, look, the main 128 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: event is coming up here in a few minutes. He 129 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: brought his receipts for his trip. Yeah, okay, So how 130 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: did Jim Lucas's mind get changed in seven minutes then? 131 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: Right? 132 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: I mean that's see, these are the things that feed 133 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: people that some guy makes these repetitive, definitive statements. He 134 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: is a hard now and then he comes out of there, 135 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: Oh now, my mind, what open mind? What wowed the 136 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: masses in seven minutes? You see why people then walk 137 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: out of there thinking this was about redistricting. 138 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to tell you. I'll let Jim speak 139 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: for himself. The talk of redistricting was probably about all 140 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: of eight minutes of the fourteen minutes that the Vice 141 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: President was in the room, so very very small piece 142 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: of the day. You know, I had already kind of 143 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: made my decision one way or another before ever coming 144 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 2: into that room and put it out publicly, because I 145 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: never want to look like somebody twisted my arm. 146 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: Now, can you you can stay for another segment? Right? 147 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: Of course? Okay for good because I I want I 148 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: want to ask him. We've still got some time in 149 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: this segment, but I want to make sure we get 150 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: to the receipts next segment. Okay, So you are yes 151 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: on redistricting, I am. Okay, so help me, you and 152 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: I we're going to work through this here. Yeah. So 153 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: the state voted fifty eight ish percent Republican, thirty eight 154 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: percent Democrat. Seven of the nine seats are Republican, which 155 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: is seventy eight percent. The two areas that are Democrat, 156 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: which are the region and Marion County I think are 157 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: Democrat areas. Seventy percent of the House seats are Republican. 158 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: Eighty percent of the Senate seats are Republican. You don't 159 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: think that's fair, Why, well, I'll tell you. 160 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: I'll make a couple points. One, I think Jerry Manig 161 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: is bad. I do, and I know you've talked about 162 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 2: it in the last couple of weeks. I think you're 163 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 2: not wrong on all of that. And in Indiana, you know, well, yes, 164 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 2: there is still a partisan slant to our maps. If 165 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: you look at US versus pretty much every other state 166 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: in the Union. The Princeton election lab, for example, how's 167 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: you know kind of their ratings Indita, Rick's the best. 168 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: We actually have them. 169 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: Dressed like a guy who would fin at the Princeton 170 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: election lab. Now me, they wouldn't let me on the door, 171 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: but you look like a guy that could that could 172 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 1: fit at the Princeton election last. 173 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 2: Well, and so let me say this, Listen, I would 174 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: prefer to see a world where Congress steps up, does 175 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: its job and creates very clean and clear rules that 176 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: all the states have to play by. See don't get 177 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: the mustache in Illinois, don't get partisan jerry mandering. The 178 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: reality is that the other side has been doing this 179 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: for a long time, and Republicans have been doing it too, 180 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: but certainly not as hard as Democrats have. And so 181 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: on a national level, you have kind of two options, right, 182 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: you can fight fire with fire and you can go 183 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: down that road, or you can rest on your laurels 184 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: and say we've got a good map, we did it 185 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: the right way. But that means that in a national scale, 186 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: Republican voters are going to be marginalized. And so, you know, 187 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: for the longest time, I think Republicans chose the map. 188 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: You know, we're again, we're going to do it the 189 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: right way. We're going to rest on our laurels. We've 190 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: got a guy in the White House now though that 191 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: you know, kind of sees it a little differently that 192 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: he's ready to fight fire. 193 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: Wire him here work for me. Right, Like, I'm I 194 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: don't like any I mean, I like you, You're fine, 195 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: but I'm saying collectively as a party, appreciate that. I 196 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: don't why should I be funding your party function? Right? Like? 197 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys, the Republicans have the House, they 198 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: have the Senate, that have the presidency. It seems like 199 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: the maps are working pretty well. I mean, you're in, 200 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: You're an honest guy, You're basically admitting there is no 201 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: Unlike Texas who will say, oh, we had five million 202 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: people move in. You're saying this is a political function, right, 203 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: like we're evening the score for Massachusetts or whoever. 204 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's even in the playfield. I mean, there's 205 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: a strategic disadvantage in the maps the way they are 206 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: today because of partisan jerry mandering and Democrat states like Maryland, Massachusetts, 207 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: Illinois that have really moved the needle the other direction. 208 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: So this is an opportunity now where you have somebody 209 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: at the top, the leader of your party, that says, hey, 210 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: I'm willing to take that fight on and fight fire 211 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: with fire, and I respect that. 212 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: Andrew. We've been told that just a few years ago 213 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: there was so much care taken into redrawing the maps, 214 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: and if there's going to be a special session, it's 215 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 3: got to be done quickly. How much care and precision 216 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 3: will be done this time. 217 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'll say this, I'm a care I 218 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: do care. I think that you want to get it 219 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: right right, and so I'm a yes on special session, 220 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: but I'm not necessarily a guess on the map. 221 00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: I want to see the ultimate map. 222 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: For example, you had to draw an eight and one map, 223 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, Andre Carson is still my congressman. 224 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: You know, that's another conversation, right, That's what the south 225 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: Side used to be. 226 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: Are we hearing you say you want the nine zero listen? 227 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: I think if you're going to do it, that's certainly 228 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: part of the conversation, right. I think you should have 229 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 2: a map that generally reflects the population of Indiana. Right now, 230 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: Indiana's sixty to forty Republican that switches to Democrats in 231 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: the future, they'll have an opportunity to draw that map too. 232 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: So OK, this is what I understand, though, I feel 233 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: like it is a reflection of the state. If the 234 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: state is sixty forty or fifty eight, thirty eight or whatever, 235 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: you've got seven, they've got two the areas that they have. 236 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody thinks in Indianapolis is a red city, 237 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: or that the Chicagoland area is red. It sounds like 238 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: we do have other than we just want to settle 239 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: the score for another state. Which you're the most honest guy, 240 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: Like you're the guy saying it right, And that's why 241 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm fine with you, because you're being honest and we 242 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: can have a disagreement about this. Everybody else. They try 243 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: to come up with all these this hodge podge of 244 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: stuff and it's like, no, you're just making me pay 245 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: for there to be more Republicans. 246 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: Well, and I mean, I'll say this too, you know, 247 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: I think there's been a lot of cost about the 248 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: conversation about the cost piece of it, and yes, there 249 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 2: is a cost to it. I want to hide things. 250 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: I've always tried to be very transparent with people. I 251 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: will say, as much as I get frustrated with the 252 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: Republicans in Washington, I think there's a real cost of 253 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: having a Democrat majority in Washington, particularly one that was 254 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: there by rig jerry mandering in the first place. So 255 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: this helps level the playing field. And ultimately, you know, 256 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: Republicans still have to go win. I mean that's the 257 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: other part of it. You still have to sell your ideas, 258 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: you still have to win. But at the end of 259 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: the day, if we can level the playing field and 260 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: you win, I think that's a better bargain for the 261 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: American people than the other way around. 262 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: All Right, I want to see these receipts, Casey. 263 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: I'm so excited, you said when you talked to jd 264 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 3: Vance that it was only about fourteen minutes and seven 265 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: eight minutes was redistricting. What were the other six minutes? 266 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: You know, he was really kind of talking about one 267 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: his experiences in Indiana. So he grew up in Cincinnati, 268 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: Indiana was right on the other side of the border there. 269 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 2: So he spent a lot of times kind of talking 270 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: about his personal connection to the state, relationship to some 271 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: of the folks in the room as well, and then 272 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: you know, just kind of laying out what they've been 273 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: up to and again how Indiana might fit into that 274 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: puzzle in the national level. Just from a policy perspective. 275 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: So again, I mean everything from death penalty to snap benefits, medicaid. 276 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: There are a lot of state specific conversations in Indiana 277 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: that have to happen to all Right. 278 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: We're going to talk about the receipts coming up. 279 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: Who is the biggest fanboy who acted ridiculous at every 280 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: one of these events, or some person that doesn't act 281 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: like they've been there before. Who was the who was 282 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: the ridiculous? 283 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, I was pretty excited. I against you. Yeah, 284 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you. I just take a lot of selfies. 285 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: Honestly, all right, So are Island is our guest, any 286 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: a state rep. And you paid for your trip out 287 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: of your own own little slush fun you've got there 288 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: in that massively growing bank account. And so you said, 289 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: I will be happy in the name of transparency, even 290 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: though some of our state wide elected officials don't want 291 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: to do this. I'll be happy to show you all 292 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: the receipts for my trip. And you're gonna do that 293 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: when we come back. That's right, awesome, it's. 294 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: Kennel and Casey on ninety three WIBC. 295 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: Okay, we're about to have a lesson in transparency. Casey 296 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: Andrew Ireland State Rep is here and he in a 297 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: moment is going to show us the receipts from his 298 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: trip to all right, So I feel like we should 299 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: just set the tone on this or set the table 300 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: on this. Why we are very pleased to Andrews coming 301 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: in and doing this because we have new listeners in 302 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: all the time. Most people know the story, but just 303 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: very quick. So the Secretary of State, Diego Morales disappeared 304 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: to India for ten days during the legislative session, blew 305 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: off his budget session, wouldn't tell anybody where he was 306 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: and then finally came out on the internet he was 307 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: in India and he then said, well, nobody should be 308 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: worried about this because no tax pair dollars were used. 309 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: And we said, well, now we're actually more worried about 310 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: this because nobody gives you something for nothing. Who paid 311 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: for you to go on this mysterious, magical mystery tour 312 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: to India. Oh, by the way, the guy Raju who 313 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: has a mysterious eighty thousand dollars contract with his office 314 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: went with him and was bragging about selling visa access 315 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: while he was there. And we know Venture Capitalist was 316 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: over there as well from here in Indiana. So yeah, 317 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: lots of questions about what was going on. He said, no, 318 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you. We said why, He said, well, 319 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm very concerned they're going to be protested. He said, 320 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: that's very weird. Okay, don't believe that for a second. 321 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: So we kept up the pressure. Then finally came out 322 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: one day Diego did and said, well, good news, I 323 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: paid for India for it. We were like, oh, you 324 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: already said somebody else paid for India. He said, I 325 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: paid the money back. 326 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you didn't pay for the trip. He reimbursed 327 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: for the trip. 328 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, we said, we don't believe you, and uh, we'd 329 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: like to see proof of that. And so then Diego 330 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: and I had a very spirited back and forth at 331 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: the Clay County Lincoln day. He had the drive out. 332 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: The arms were failing, he was shouting, and then at 333 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: one point he bizarrely said, well, you show me your 334 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: paycheck and I'll show you proof I paid the money back. 335 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: And I said, you mean you want to see my 336 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: paycheck from a private company. He said, yeah, show me 337 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: yours and I'll show you mine. I said, deal, dude, 338 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: And then well then it got weird, got a little squirrelly. Well, 339 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: they kept sending us cryptic messages, his community cations person did, 340 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: and then finally they agreed to show us the check. 341 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: And then we said, okay, well, obviously we would be 342 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: complete dumbasses if we didn't insist on seeing one that 343 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: the check was actually cash and two what you paid 344 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: for to know that those you actually paid the money back. 345 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: And he said, eh, I ain't doing that. So that's 346 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: where we are today, right But andre Yland said, I'll 347 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: show you all the all the expenses for my trip 348 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: and proof that I paid for it. You didn't pay 349 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: for it anything as a tax for he joins to 350 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: now Andrew Ireland Hillo. By the way, I feel like 351 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: you're just caught in the crossfire of all this. Good 352 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: to see you again. Okay. How much did you spend 353 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: roughly on your trip to Washington, d C? 354 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: Probably about six hundred all in. 355 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. That includes a flight, everything, flight everything. 356 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: You didn't stay though, you guys came back that that night. 357 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: I got in the day before. I had a bunch 358 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: of filings to do for my day job. I'm an attorneys, 359 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: so I've spent most of the day of the hotel 360 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: room working. 361 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: Oh and so includes hotel. You did that with the 362 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: flight and hotel for six mon light and hotel. Would 363 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: you eat Cheetos the whole time? 364 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: McDonald's actually, of course? 365 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: All right, So Casey, you have the receipts. I have 366 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: the receipts. 367 00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: Are you cool? 368 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: If we show them? I don't want putting your personal 369 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: step up. I've seen them. They are Okay. 370 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: Here's what I would like for you to do, rock, Yes, Casey, 371 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: get your calculator out, yes, and keep a running totally okay, 372 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: very good, Okay, so we'll have an exact number before 373 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: we get to the actual receipt. 374 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: Now, I didn't mean to catch up. Why did you 375 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: have no problem showing us your receipts? 376 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: I about that, heyde I think transparency is a helpful 377 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: thing in government. We should see more of it, not less. 378 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: Very good, go ahead, Casey, did you leave Washington, d C? 379 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 3: Feeling like you accomplished something? I mean, I've been to 380 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: like radio conferences and after I left them, I've oh 381 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: motivated and yeah I want to go do that and 382 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 3: just really inspired. So I don't have a problem with 383 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: any of the reps going to Washington, d C. For 384 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: the day or even an overnight if it helps them 385 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: become better legislators when they're back in Indiana. I think 386 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 3: that's a small price to pay, especially if I'm not 387 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: paying for it. So did you feel like that when 388 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: you left, like it was a good experience for you 389 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: to go so that you'll be a better lawmaker? 390 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? 391 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: I actually I think it was really helpful. I mean 392 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: there are two very specific policy pieces coming out of 393 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: that that I'll be working on, you know, coming into 394 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: next session. I mean, one is reform to food stamp 395 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: snap benefits, within Indiana specifically, there was a proposal in 396 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen about basically doing like blue Apron boxes where 397 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: you're taking you know. 398 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: The middleman out. 399 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: You're not using these kind of ebt cards, but instead 400 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: you're delivering healthy food directly to somebody's door. I think 401 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: there's something to be really said for that. But then 402 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: the other piece of it too is the death penalty. 403 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: So the federal death row is here in Indiana and 404 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: Tara HOAt and so they are subject to Indiana law 405 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: and Indiana methods of carrying out executions, and that means 406 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: lethal injection, which is a very expensive method to really 407 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: carry out justice. 408 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, why can't we just shoot people. 409 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: That might be on the table. 410 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: We'll see. You're very good. 411 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: So you're saying, because of this trip, you are coming 412 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: back when session begins, you are directly authoring bills based 413 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: on what you learned. 414 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: That's exactly right, okay, And I say about two percent 415 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: of the people went with you. We'll do it the 416 00:16:58,520 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: way you did it. 417 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 3: But i'm a set of how many people do you 418 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 3: think paid themselves? 419 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 2: Honestly, I couldn't begin to tell you. I will say 420 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: that the couple of people I've talked to you about it. 421 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: They are actually paying, you know, out of their own 422 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: pocket for this one too. Now if we did Marshall, 423 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: you know, so you're only entitled to reasonable expenses, right, 424 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: So my guess is that if they you know, they 425 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: wanted to go out and have a steak dinner, they're 426 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 2: not going to get reimbursed for that. But maybe they're 427 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: airfare for example, if they had a reasonable flight and 428 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: a reasonable. 429 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: Time with the covered. Okay, all right, Casey, you have 430 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: the receipts. Let's work through these here. And Andrew said 431 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: he's fine if she puts them up on the screen 432 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: for people to u Yeah, people just see. 433 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: And they come in different sizes. We've got little ones, 434 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: we've got big ones. Okay, you ready with the tone? 435 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: I got it. Okay, here we go. 436 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: First one three hundred and eighty four dollars and ninety 437 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 3: six cents. 438 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: Okay, very good. 439 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 3: That was for American Airlines, and I guess it's a. 440 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: Round trip ticket to and from Washington, d C. 441 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: That's if you plant it out in advance, that's pretty good. 442 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 3: I'm paying four oh four when I go tomorrow. 443 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: Oh, that's what's in the ball park. 444 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 3: Yep, okay. Next we have this is McDonald's five dollars 445 00:17:58,640 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 3: and eighty eight cents. 446 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: What you got? I think that was a mick griddle? 447 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: This was was this at the airport that was the 448 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 2: Indie airport? 449 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: Yes, yep, okay, five eighty eight. You've got a twelve 450 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 3: dollars American Airline Wi Fi charge and he paid for 451 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: this in Fort Worth, Texas. So you obviously had to 452 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 3: fly down to Dallas. 453 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: I think it's because they're based in. 454 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 3: Okay, that's where the billing goes. Twelve dollars for Wi 455 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 3: Fi wire on the plane just. 456 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: To be able to access the Internet on the plane. 457 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: Are you telling me? 458 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 3: Okay? Fifteen dollars and fifty cents? And this is an 459 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: all day Metro pass. Now tell everybody who is not 460 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: familiar with the Metro what that is in Washington d C. 461 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: Train in d C. So if you don't want to 462 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: spend fifty dollars on each Uber ride to get around, 463 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: the train is definitely the cheapest option. 464 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: Okay. And if you're just joining us. Andrew Ireland State 465 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: Rep is our guest. He's revealing his receipts for his 466 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: trip to Washington, d C. Because that's what transparency looks 467 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: like when you have absolutely nothing to hide. And this 468 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: is important because this is the exact thing. This is 469 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: the only thing we have asked the Secretary of State 470 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: to do. We don't need to know who he paid 471 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: the money back to. We just want to see the receipts, 472 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: what it was for, and what the check was for, 473 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: so that if you're tuning in, this is why we're 474 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: doing this. 475 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: Okay, we continue on. This is actually in Washington. One 476 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty four dollars and thirty six cents, okay, 477 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 3: And this was for the hotel booked on hotels dot com. 478 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: It's expensive, that's. 479 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: The Hilton Gardens. It's a three star hotel. Don't well, 480 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 2: I don't care. 481 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: It's your money. You stayed to five star. 482 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 3: I don't care to stay to HgI. 483 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you. It's serviceable. It's probably not the 484 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: nicest hotel in the world, but it's very close to 485 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: the White House, so it was very convenient. 486 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: Did you have to tell your wife like I'm going 487 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: I'm going to I'm going to Washington, d C. And 488 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay for this myself. Like, did you do 489 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: you have to have a conversation with your wife about. 490 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: That anytime I spend money, you know, I was reread it. 491 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: I'm about as cheap as it gets. She knows that too, 492 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: so she never really has story very good. 493 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 3: Continuing on with the receipts, Rob, you still going, yes, 494 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: I'm still going. Okay. Five dollars and eighty one cents. 495 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: This was for a coffee in Washington. See. This must 496 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 3: have been the warning of the meetings at the White House. 497 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: It may have been. 498 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's right, he's gonna wake up, he's gonna have. 499 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: So that's right. Yeah, again, that's something totally. 500 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 3: Expensive coffee, by the way. Yeah, five dollars and eighty 501 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 3: one cents. Here we got more food. 502 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: I love that he printed all these. 503 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: Seven dollars and ninety cents. And this is for McDonald's. 504 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 3: And this is where was this? This was in Washington. 505 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 3: D Oh, you were right by K Street. 506 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: Okay, it's about yeah, about three blocks from the White House. 507 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: That is a micdouble and a drink. 508 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: Think about think about this. Not only can he tell 509 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: you what he bought, he can explain it to you 510 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: in intricate detail. 511 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, here we go, fifty two dollars ninety two cents. 512 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 513 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 3: This is for the old Ebbett Grill on Fifteenth Street 514 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 3: in Washington. 515 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: Sounds like quite expensive food. 516 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so this was the big dinner. 517 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: This was the big dinner. I listened, some folks might 518 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: have had oysters or steaks, and I'm going to take 519 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: a look for it. But I had a ruben and 520 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 2: a couple of beers. 521 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: That's when they charged for a ruben and a couple 522 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: of beers. 523 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: You're telling me, I And then that's the tip to 524 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 2: and you know everything else and to be generous. 525 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: Good grief. 526 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 3: Now, if you could look on the map this this 527 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: restaurant that you went to, it is right next to 528 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 3: the White House, that's right. Yeah, so I mean you're 529 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: kind of you're paying premium price, absolutely and you go there. Okay, 530 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 3: here we go. Little I know, this is the same receipt. 531 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 3: This is the little this is the blown up version 532 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: of it. Thirteen dollars and seventy three cents. And this 533 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 3: was paid at the White House Historical Association. All right, Andrew, 534 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: what did you buy at the gift shop? 535 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the White House gift Shop. We got just 536 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 2: a little book cattle home for story time, Like I 537 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: should bring something home. 538 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: Hold that up there a little bit for that camera, 539 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: say a white house alphabet. There you go, very good, excellent, 540 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: and you bought that. 541 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 3: For your daughter. 542 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: That's right. 543 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 3: Personal item okay? Last one nope? Two more legal sea food. 544 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 3: So this is another meal food. Yeah, seafoods. Twenty eight 545 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 3: dollars and eighty two cents. 546 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: How much? 547 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 3: Twenty eight dollars and eighty two cents. Okay, so this 548 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 3: is under dining. This is another rest. 549 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: Of cheeseburger and fries at the airport. The airport prices. 550 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: You gotta love it. 551 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 3: Food is expensive airport. Did you fly into Dullest or Reagan? 552 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: That's Reagan? Okay, it's one more to go. 553 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 3: Last one. This is a three dollars receipt and this 554 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 3: is also from the metro. 555 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: That's right? 556 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: Is that correct? 557 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 558 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 3: All right? 559 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: What do you what do you think? Your total was 560 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: six to seven hundred? Yeah? What do you think? 561 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: Gouh six forty two? 562 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So here's how we do this, Andrew, I know 563 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: you're a listener, but we do what price is right rules. 564 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: You got a guess with the closest without going over. 565 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: So you're at six forty two, six forty three six 566 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: forty three cab. What do you think Andrew's total was. 567 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say six fifty CAB would be the winner. 568 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: Seven hundred and fourteen dollars in eighty. 569 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 3: Wow, how much was this? 570 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: Seven fourteen eighty eight, seven fourteen eighty eight, Andrew Man, 571 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for doing this today, because 572 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll get some heat for it, but it's 573 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: it's exactly what our representatives should be. And the fact 574 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: that you're just willing to come on I mean of 575 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: something that you're paying for yourself. I mean you're not 576 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: even saying somebody else paid for it, and you're just like, 577 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: here it is, man, here's every receipt. I really appreciate that, 578 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: and I know our listeners did too. 579 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 580 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 2: No, I appreciate it. 581 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 3: And for the representatives who aren't paying it for themselves. 582 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'd like to see your receipts too. 583 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 3: It's Kennelly Casey. It's ninety three WIBC.