1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Brad Cloppenstein. Jerry Lopez filling in on The kend and 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Casey Show, Friday, January second. Jerry got some big news, 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: sad news. 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: They're shutting down our Somali daycare. 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: That's not what I was talking about. But thank God, 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: don't worry. The hip hugger still exists. That's way insider 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: baseball for our conversation from yesterday. No, Jerry, George and 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: them all Clooney, they are now French. Okay, I mean 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: I don't yeah, so tes no do we have to 10 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: say George Clooney. 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hate you Americans? 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: I don't. This is a big thing for me. 13 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 2: Like just because you're good at some kind of media, 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: even this, even like radio, like you don't know us, 15 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: you just know the radio. 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: Personal. 17 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: Really, you don't know Cob Bryant. You don't know what 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: happened in that hotel room. Just because he played basketball 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: doesn't mean he's not a regular person. So when we 20 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: start putting all these people on pedestals, it's like, who cares? Man, 21 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: Like what if you could. You're a good actor, George, 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: and I think you're a good philanthropist. The problem is 23 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: you came out and you did the supporting ob and 24 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: got real political, like there have all been doing, and 25 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: it's ruining the way that I look at a lot 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: of these people. 27 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: So now I was reading the story on this. So 28 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: France offered them citizenship just based on their career success 29 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: and the notoriety they bring. Now, I don't know if 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: Clooney was one of the ones who said, oh my god, 31 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: Donald Trump gets reelected, I'm out. It sounds like France 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: just offered it to him. Which then a bunch of 33 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: French people are all up in arms, say, wait a second, 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: he's notes. 35 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not an illegal immigrant. 36 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: What's he doing here? 37 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: Jerry? 38 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: Can we say that on the radio? I can, I can't. 39 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if his wife's gonna have to put 40 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: on a burka or not. But strap up, baby, because 41 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: it's being taken over. 42 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, so the French are upset that he did 43 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: go through the process that it comes to become French. 44 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we got to quit and lose a couple 45 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: of wards or something like. I don't know what you 46 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: got to. 47 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: Do exactly, Gotta eat Vignet's and capes and yeah, spit 48 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: on the floor a couple of times. Right, So now 49 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned yes he's not Muslim, but that then goes 50 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: into the next topic. I wanted to talk about, what 51 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: is Europe going to do. They's not they have it. 52 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: They have a Muslim immigration problem. And you want to 53 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: be sympathetic. And if somebody is being oppressed in their 54 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: current home, you want to give them some place to land. 55 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: But if they come in and then say, well, we 56 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: want to make this exactly like the place we left because. 57 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: It was such an shole, take your butt back, then, right, Like, 58 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: I feel very very educated to speak on this subject. 59 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: Okay, my family's from Cuba. 60 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: Okay, we my mom and dad did not come here 61 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: to turn this place into Cuba. They left that place 62 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: to come for the American dream. Right thing I say 63 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 2: about protesters waving flags of other nations. 64 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: If you want to wave your Mexican. 65 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: Flag at a protest, go back to Mexico, bro, Like, 66 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: don't come here and cry about us making you leave 67 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: if it sucks. 68 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, pretty much all of us came from somewhere else, 69 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage, right, 70 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: but once you get here, yeah you're an American. 71 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: So but what you're talking about in Europe and the 72 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: West is that these groups are using empathetic lefties, and 73 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: we're all empathetic to the plight of some of these people, 74 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: but we're not talking We're talking about what I would 75 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: call military age males, right, We're not talking about a 76 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: bunch of single moms or old the whalers. We're talking 77 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: about men between the ages of sixteen and thirty five 78 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: that are just overrunning these places and they're using our 79 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: own laws against us as essentially what's happening. 80 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: They can of are. I mean, I've always said America 81 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: works because we don't let politics and religion intermingle much, 82 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: which I think is that's certainly the way it was 83 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: that we were founded. They shoot, the Pilgrims came here 84 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: because they were looking to get away from religious oppression 85 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: in England and they were looking for a place that 86 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: they could go and they could practice their religion as 87 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: they see fit, and politics was separate. Now there's always 88 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: they've always intertwined a little bit. But when you start 89 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: favoring favoring one religion over another, uh, that's where you 90 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: get problems. Because here, if your side loses, you typically 91 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: don't fear reprisals from whoever the winning side was you're 92 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: still allowed to participate, You're still allowed to say your piece, 93 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: You're just not the one exactly. That's so, yes, we 94 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: don't have political prisoners here, but that seems to be 95 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: where Europe is going to come to a head because 96 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: yes they I know what I think Denmark just I 97 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: think they cut off Muslim immigration altogether. And it's because 98 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: it's becoming a problem. 99 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: And we look at Nigeria, right, Nigeria they had where 100 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: President Trump had to go in there and actually like 101 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: strike Nigeria because they had these radical, radical Islamis that 102 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: were literally going around just murdering all the Christians. 103 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: And there's twenty twenty five. I mean, it's crazy. This 104 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: is this is happening right now in the world today. 105 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: Maybe it's just because I'm not very religious one way 106 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: or anyway really, but fighting over religion seems to be 107 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: one of the dumbest things you could possibly ever do. 108 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: So I would I would disagree, Okay, I would say 109 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: that if and I'm not uber religious, but I do 110 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: believe in God, Jesus King, if this is your ever 111 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: after right, if if heaven or wherever is supposed to be, 112 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: the end isn't that worth fighting for. 113 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: For you, right, but not for you posing it on 114 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: somebody else. 115 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: You're right, agreed. In my America, you do you, I 116 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: do me? And who cares exactly? 117 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't know what religion my neighbors are. 118 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: I don't really care. It's none of my business. Yeah, 119 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,119 Speaker 1: my business. Hey, what's up, Hope? You're good? If you anything, 120 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: let me know, right. Yeah, I appreciate that you want 121 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: to save my soul or you. I don't appreciate it 122 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: so much if you want to kill me because you 123 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: think I'm an infidel. Agreed, But yeah, you do. You 124 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: all do me. Gold rules seems to work. But I 125 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: mean even you look Ireland, the Protestants and Catholics have 126 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: been fighting for eons and nobody ever wins a religious war. 127 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean it goes on in the Middle East. They 128 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: have been fighting for four thousand years of religion. You 129 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: know what, nobody ever wins. There's not a right answer. 130 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: And you're just you're just creating more hate in division. 131 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: You are right because now you have And I thought 132 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: about this when I was in Iraq, like some of 133 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: these kids only know America being here. 134 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course they hate us, which in theory we 135 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: should be there to win them over to our side. 136 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: But instead, yeah, it seems like wherever we go then 137 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: people just hate us. I don't know. So what would 138 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: your for if Jerry Lopez, would you become president, what's 139 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: your forger and foreign policy going to be? Are we 140 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: going to be protect our borders and our shores and yeah, 141 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: but the rest of the world slug it out themselves, 142 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: I mean, not slug it out. 143 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 2: But I think that we're seeing now with this Trump 144 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: presidency that the world is better when people fear America 145 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: actually stepping in when they get out of hand. Yeah, 146 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: and maybe we don't necessarily have to, we don't want to. 147 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: But I mean, look at Biden. Biden didn't get involved 148 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: in any of that stuff, and look what happened around 149 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: the world. People did not fear him, and it was 150 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: only a matter of time for China went after Taiwan. 151 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: Right with Donald Trump, it's like the Hamas and Israel, like, 152 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: we're good, we don't want any problems, right, everybody's just 153 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: shutting it down. 154 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: I think that's great. 155 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it'd be America first, because the rest of 156 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: the world is better when when we're when we're number one. 157 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: I agree, yes, when we're strong, because I like to 158 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: think that we're a fairly pretty fair arbiter of things 159 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: that go on. And I'm not sure that we necessarily 160 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: stay neutral, but we try to be as neutral as 161 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: we can. Yeah, and yeah, that seems to serve us 162 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: well in the periods of time where it's the speak softly, 163 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: carry a big stick sort of thing. Exactly, you want 164 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: people to be a little bit afraid of you because 165 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: you don't want them walking all over you. But it's 166 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, some of these some of these countries are 167 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: they're kind of like the small kid that's a bully. 168 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: Every once in a while they need punched, yep, to 169 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: kind of put them back in their place. And so 170 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: so in your world, Jerry, where should we have bases 171 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: all over the world? Should we maintain them? What's your thing? 172 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: So, so in Maya, if you we will put a 173 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: base in your country, but you're going to pay for it. 174 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, we're helping you. We'll do that. So 175 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Germany ramping up their defense spending. 176 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: I'll know what for, Like, we're there, I think we 177 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: need to leave Germany. 178 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: Unless we're all there for some Russia type deal, which 179 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: I'll give you. But we're in a lot of places 180 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: like for what, right, just just to have a base there, 181 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: and we're probably paying for all that. 182 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, we definitely are paying for it. Yeah, so no, 183 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: I exactly, I mean, I yeah, historically I can see 184 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: why they don't want Germany to ramp up their military spinning. 185 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: But you're right, I would rather have Germany chipping in 186 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: to defend the border because yeah, they're a lot more 187 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: imminent threat to Russia than than we are. Right, we 188 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: got a notion between us. 189 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: Right and listen, there's only been one country that's used Nukeston. 190 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: We've done it twice, that's true. Right, As long as 191 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: you got that in your back pocket, people tend to 192 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: stay in line. 193 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, and it's yeah, it's good to have 194 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: that threat. So you're listening, Brad Clofenstein, Jerry Lopez. We 195 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: are filling in for Kendall Casey today. Would we come back, Jerry, 196 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: We are going to fix healthcare as you and I 197 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: in about ten minutes worth the time. We're going to 198 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: make this happen. So we will be right back ninety 199 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: three WIBC. Jerry Lopez, Brad Clofenstein filling in for Rob 200 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: and Casey. They are enjoying their holiday. They get one 201 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: more day off. We'll be back here on Monday, I believe. So, Jerry, 202 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: we'll have a good time with you today. 203 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 2: Man, well, I was just saying, all fair. I'm like, man, 204 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: this we just flowed. We haven't played any clips, we 205 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 2: haven't played anything. We're just chit chat outing. 206 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: Two guys talking. If we had beer in front of us, 207 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: that would make this show that much better. It would, 208 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: so we'll have to work on that. So now behave yourself. 209 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: I know that my dad's listening right now. So he 210 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 1: lives down in Evansville, but he Jockey's cars for car 211 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: dealership that has dealerships down in Evansville and up here 212 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: in Central Indiana. 213 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: So I should not tell him. You try to talk 214 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: me in the body shots before the show. 215 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: I thought that wouldn't surprise. It was weird. 216 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: You're like, put pour this in your belly button, Jerry. 217 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, shout out to my old man. He's driving. 218 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: He might may or may not have people with him today. 219 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: So anyhow, Jerry, we're going to fix healthcare in this segment. 220 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: So price hikes are coming to the ACA health insurance 221 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: plans as subsidies expire for millions of Americans. So are 222 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: you surprised by this? That free healthcare is not free? 223 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: I mean, there's nothing free, all right. I know everybody 224 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: said that, But things aren't just created out of nowhere. 225 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 2: Somebody's got to put a dollar into the aluminum that 226 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: goes into this free sandwich or whatever. 227 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: Right, so you's free. 228 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: But I think we can fix all these problems in 229 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: America if we just doze everything and audit everything and 230 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: figure out where the money is really going so that 231 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: it can go towards Americans. 232 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. I mean healthcare is there's so 233 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: much money that flows into healthcare that does not go 234 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: towards providing care for the individual. And some of this 235 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: gets into can a right? Can you have a right 236 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: if you're obligating somebody else to pay for it and 237 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: provide it. I'm going to give you an example. You ready, okay? 238 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: If you are on government healthcare, should you be allowed 239 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: to smoke? 240 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: If I'm paying for your health care? I would tend 241 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: to say no. 242 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 2: And that kind of the question just asked the question, 243 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: can you like if I'm paying for your stuff and 244 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: you're doing things that are making it more expensive for us. 245 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, then I should have some say and how you 246 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: live your life, and it takes. 247 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: Us to the EBT thing, right, EBT Snap, you can't 248 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: have sugary drinks no more. 249 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: And that just went into effect yesterday. 250 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's kind of along the same lines. 251 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's I you know, everybody wants to say, well, yeah, 252 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: we as Americans, we should have a write to healthcare 253 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: and housing and say, well, well all that stuff's earned 254 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: you right to work for it. Yeah, and it's you're right. 255 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with creating your life or 256 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: your your personal habits or I'm sorry if you've got 257 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: some sort of condition that you were born with, I 258 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you. 259 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: I mean, to me, the issue with healthcare is everything 260 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: is so marked up. Everybody's eating off each other. Right, 261 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: the insurance company is getting paid, they're charging the provider. 262 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: They're I mean, and you look at it. Was it 263 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: the bag of just fluids you buy that from a 264 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 2: health care provider, it's like two hundred bucks. 265 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and that's like twenty dollars at the store. 266 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: So it's funny. So I can have health care through 267 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: my wife's company, I could get on her plan, but 268 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: then we got to pay full freight for me realized 269 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: it was cheaper for me to go out on my own. 270 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: And I'm now with a health care company where they 271 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: actually incentivized me to shop herround. Well, so if so, 272 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: they'll have a set price that they will pay for 273 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: a certain procedure or whatever, and they say, if you 274 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: can find it cheaper, we will pay you the difference. 275 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: So pretty sweet. It's actually not a heck, it's not 276 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: a bad deal. Keeps my cost down. And I think 277 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: probably with health care and tell the people who are 278 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: receiving the healthcare, the customer have some say in how 279 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: much it costs, or they're at least following the bottom line. 280 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't know how much things cost, 281 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: what incentive do you have to to keep it in check? 282 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: Well, isn't that something that they that they came out 283 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: with As I said, now, these healthcare companies have to 284 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: have to itemize the charges, have to show you what 285 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 2: things are going to cost prior. 286 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: Yes, gosh, I remember I went to a doctor one 287 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: time and I'm like, well, how much is this going 288 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: to cost? To go? Oh? We don't know. We just 289 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: send it to your insurance company. Like, all right, then 290 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: how much are you going to how much are they 291 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: going to pay? Right, Well, we don't know. We just 292 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: send it. 293 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: Well, so in the future, if you have any questions, 294 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: and if any listeners have any issues getting healthcare, I 295 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: have a bit of advice for you. Drive south Burn 296 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: your IDs, walk over to California Free health Care. 297 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: Boom. You're welcome. Yeah, so I know, just so Obviously 298 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: my day job when I'm not here, I run the 299 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: Lawrence Chamber of Commerce and we actually just hooked up 300 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: with the Indie Chamber and the Indiana Chamber. They've had 301 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: a health plan that they offer their members and we're 302 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: now offering that same plan. So's it's predominantly for businesses 303 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: that have from two to fifty employees, but you get 304 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: to be part of the group of other business owners 305 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: that are also part of this healthcare plan. And I 306 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: know it's about thirty percent cheaper than going on the 307 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: open market, and now that the ACA plans have gone up, 308 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: it seems to be an even better deal. So it's 309 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: I mean, there's good to be alternatives. I know that 310 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: Indiana Farm Bureau if you're a member, they'll offer individual 311 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: health care plans. So I know I'm exploring all those. 312 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: I probably won't know a little bit more about health 313 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: care than I should or the average person does, just 314 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: because I am shopping it right for myself, I. 315 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: Think I need to give what is it USAA A call? 316 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: Is that the veteran health insurance? When I've heard a 317 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: pretty cheap But so I just usually have employee based 318 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: health insurance. 319 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so you get it through your job. Yeah, so 320 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: if you don't mind me asking, what do you pay 321 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: a month for that? 322 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: Well, I got me and kids on mine, so it's 323 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: probably almost four a month two hundred check, I'd say, okay. 324 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: That's not bad, and they're picking up the rest. Yeah, 325 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: so it's so probably the nut and vision is free 326 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: them free. So probably your your employers kicking in a 327 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: grand a month, if not more. For that you're paying 328 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: four hundred. That's a pretty good deal. So I mean, yeah, 329 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: and it sucks for people, especially the self employed are 330 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: always the ones, yeah, that have the hardest time finding things, 331 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: and they either make too much money to go through 332 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: the ACA. That's why I like this chamber plan that 333 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: we're now offering to our members, just because it does 334 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: give an opportunity to do something to where you can 335 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: actually go it alone. That's one of the biggest deterrence 336 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: for people, I think to be an entrepreneur is what 337 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: am I going to do about healthcare? Yeah? 338 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people take jobs just for 339 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: the benefits, just for the healthcare. 340 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: Oh, for sure. I can't blame you. I know. Like so, 341 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: my dad's a little bit older than my stepmom, and 342 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: I know that when he turned sixty five, he got 343 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: on the government health plan, but she saw it to 344 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: come up with her own thing. And she basically she 345 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: worked at the local school system down in Evansville and 346 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: made practically nothing, but she did it because of the 347 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: healthcare benefits. So it's yeah, I guess you do what 348 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: you got to do. But it's there are not easy answers. See, 349 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: Terry was hoping that you'd come up with a bunch 350 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: of easy answers here, and we just say we're going 351 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: to fix it. 352 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: We only have one for free health care, but it's 353 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: gonna cost you a little bit of time. One for yep, 354 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: got to join the militaire. No, you gotta come back 355 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: as an legal immigrant. There's a couple of states you 356 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: can get free health care in. 357 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: Which which states are those you got? California is the 358 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: number one. California's number one. Yes, thanks Ray City. 359 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: I think Massachusetts has free healthcare for people. 360 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: Okay, should we all just go to Canada? No? No, 361 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, the downside is when it's free, then all 362 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you get you do get the Canadian 363 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: model where you're waiting nine months for procedure and yeah, 364 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: then it's just a waiting game of if you live 365 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: long enough to actually get treatment. 366 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: Right, Well, the best doctors come to come to the 367 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: US for a reason. 368 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: Some of that's money. 369 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 2: But with that money drives technology drives faster things. 370 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, like I had a few years ago, I 371 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: had a doctor where if you if you were paying 372 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: him like real cash, it was he had a cash 373 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: deal and I'm not even sure it every went on 374 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: the books a different He's like, yeah, he goes two 375 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: thirds of the money that I'm charging are going to 376 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: pay for the people to submit stuff to the health 377 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: insurance companies and you know, and all your compliance rags. 378 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, you know, just not doing and 379 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: anything to treat. 380 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: You, right, I don't pay everybody that touches, your touches, 381 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: your file. 382 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not making any money on that either, So 383 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: all right, there we go. So what about pharmaceutical drugs? 384 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: I know that that's another thing that Indiana was doing, 385 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: is trying to rein in pharmacies. They're saying that if 386 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: you offer the health plan, that you have to have 387 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: a pharmacy in your network within thirty miles of anybody 388 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: who's on your plan. Yeah. 389 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: I don't even know about all that. You're way more 390 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: into it than I am. I'm a standard forty four 391 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: year old male. I only go to the er. 392 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: That's my primary health physician. Is the er? Really? So 393 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: what about for what pharmaceuticals? Prescription drugs? 394 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 2: I don't take any prescription drugs, okay, yeah, so never Yeah, Jerry, 395 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: so you're. 396 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: Just that much younger than me. That day is coming. 397 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,239 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm gonna wake up one day. 398 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'm my back hurts. For all of 399 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: a sudden, I'm gonna start getting texts from Jerry's. Hey, 400 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: my feet are swollen? What do I do? Exactly? Where 401 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: was it you said you're getting your prescriptions? Yeah? Yeah, 402 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: the day is coming, so you don't have those well 403 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: you're fit. You said you're running now, so you don't 404 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: have those normal aging aches and pains. Not yet, not yet. 405 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: The kids keep you young. 406 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: H yeah, yeah, running around, stay busy with them. I think, 407 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: I think helps, But I'm sure a switch is gonna 408 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: go off one day. I'm ana wake up all of 409 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 2: a sudden putting on weight and my leg's hurt and 410 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: different things happen. 411 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: Then well, then one of our segments will be ailmut talk. 412 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: There it is there. It is my joints hurt. 413 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: Brother, that is a daily occurrence. We can talk about 414 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: that right now. So so there we go. So you're 415 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: listening to Jerry Lopez Brad Klopfenstein. We are filling in 416 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: for Robin Casey today, thanks to BBC management for having 417 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: us on. When we come back after the news with 418 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: Jared Lewis, we're going to be talking about fighting mother nature. 419 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: It's the time of year I hate the most, Jerry, 420 00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: and we're going to figure out how to make the 421 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: most to this and I hate it the most too. 422 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: All right, So don't go anywhere, We'll be right back. 423 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: You're listened to The Kendall O Casey Show on ninety 424 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: three WIBC Brad Clothenstein. Jerry Lopez filling in my daytime job. 425 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: I run the Lawrence Chamber, Great Lawrence Chamber of Commerce. Jerry, 426 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: you're just a vagabond, right yep, just slumming it. I 427 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: like it. I like it. You just hang out. You're 428 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: the actually you truly are the utility man of WIBC. 429 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 2: I am. I am six Man of the Year, six man. 430 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: That's why I say, did you get a major award 431 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: for that? No? 432 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need a ward. Did you get acknowledged? No, 433 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: stinking trophies. We don't do this for trophies. So you 434 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: can love it the game. Brat. Did you get a 435 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: fruit basket or anything for Christmas? No? No, I do 436 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: get a check. That's good enough. Okay, that's good enough. 437 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: There we go as long as that clears. So, Jerry, 438 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about mother nature and 439 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: how you fight it. So it's that time of year 440 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: where the days are short. Fortunately, there's starting to get 441 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: moderately longer. Well moderately, I think we're gaining forty five 442 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: seconds a day or something, maybe a minute. The days 443 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: are starting to get longer, but average high as thirty seven. 444 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: We may or may not see the sun between now 445 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: and the first of March. Last week we had that 446 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: storm roll through what Sunday where it was mid upper 447 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: sixties during the day and then the winds blew through 448 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: and it was ten degrees that night. It kicked up 449 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: twenty five foot waves on Lake Michigan. How do you 450 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: fight winter? Stay inside? I hate the winner. I'm not 451 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: a You're not a spicy guy. I'm not a cold guy. 452 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: I do not operate well. I'm not a cold guy either. 453 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: I like to consider myself a beach guy. I'm not 454 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: sure why I don't just go now. Me and my 455 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: wife have made a pledge that we are going to 456 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: start bundling up and walking around, and we're just going 457 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: to have to learn to embrace this. If we're going 458 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: to live here, it's you know, for the next sixty days. 459 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: We can't just hole up inside do nothing but eat 460 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: wings and drink beer. As good as it sounds. Yeah, 461 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: So I got a cousin that lives in Minneapolis. I 462 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: went up and visited him. I don't know if these 463 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: people are crazy or have just figured it out, but 464 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: like all the ponds up there, will freeze over and 465 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: so he has a pond lake. I mean, there's a 466 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: lot of lakes up there, but there's a lake that's 467 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: a block from his house and you go down there, 468 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: and they've got like in the summertime at the beach, 469 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: they've got this big concession area. Well in the winter time, 470 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: they've got speakers that are set up that are putting 471 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: music out on the ice. The concession stands open. They're 472 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: selling hot chocolate and hot dogs and things. There's people 473 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: out there ice fishing, there's people out there skating, there's 474 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: people out there that are windsailing, and I mean literally 475 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: there's hundreds of people and this is all over town. 476 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 2: I mean that sounds awesome. I don't know that i'd 477 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 2: be out there. I'd be scared of being on the ice. 478 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: Like that's as crazy as it sounds like. I'm sure 479 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: it's safe. They're not out there being idiots. But for me, 480 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: when when we were always told you see it frozen over, 481 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 2: don't go walk on there, because you're gonna break through. 482 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: Right well around here to be free and the saw cycles, Yeah, 483 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: people drive their trucks out there and nuts, but they 484 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: just they do it. I think Wisconsin's kind of the 485 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: same way. I mean they get on their snowoll biles, 486 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: which at least in Wisconsin, they're just getting on their 487 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: snowoll bills and then they're pub crawling. Yeah. 488 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: So when I was in Iraq, I was attached to 489 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: a unit that's from Fort Drum, New York. It's like 490 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 2: by Buffalo. They would talk to me about the snow. 491 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: They would get up there and they would show me 492 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: pictures and it's just like nuts, We're over here complaining 493 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 2: about six inches and they're getting like two feet two 494 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 2: and a half feet of snow. I don't even know 495 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: how you would even get around some I remember there 496 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: was a Bill's playoff game a couple of years ago, 497 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: and a bunch of fans were going around shoveling out 498 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: the Bills because they had a big snowstorm. 499 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: Right, they had snowstorm the night before, so well yeah, 500 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: a few years ago Buffalo had all that snow, like 501 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: a record amount of snows, like one hundred inches or 502 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 1: something of the season. Well, then they were dumping all 503 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: they were actually having to get rid of the snow. 504 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: They're putting it in dump trucks, trucking it to the 505 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: Bill's parking lot and dumping it there. And somebody did 506 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: a follow up story in July and there was still 507 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: this big pile of snow that had not yet melted. 508 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm not a snow guy at all. I mean, 509 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 2: this is about the time of year where I look 510 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: at my mom like, why are. 511 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: We in Indiana? Like you made this decision? What does 512 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: she say? Yeah, well, yeah, she said, Jerry, We're here 513 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: because of the opportunity. I guess we love the people. 514 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 2: Could have stayed south by the beach somewhere. 515 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: So how many wings can a guy and how many 516 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: beers can a guy have over the course of sixty 517 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: days to get through this? 518 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you can have a lot of wings, that's true. 519 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 2: You gotta have a lot of money, though. 520 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. So maybe I look at things through sports seasons, 521 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: like right now, you know, football is wrapping up, and 522 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: I look at it, it's like, okay, if we can 523 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: get through college basketball season by the time this tournament starts, 524 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: if they're warming ugh, it's going. 525 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: To start warming up to the same thing once March's 526 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 2: Madness is here. 527 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: We're close, right exactly, because March will at least rattle 528 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: off two or three days that hit the seventies, and 529 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: it's sunny and I can get through that. 530 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the coldest month of the of the year. 531 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: Is it February? No, it's January. It's January. 532 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 2: It's same for snow. Snow is usually in January, I think. 533 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: So, I mean it's I had lunch with Brian Wilkes 534 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: last week. I need to ask him these questions. But 535 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: I just I do know that right now the average 536 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: high at thirty seven. It will bottom out at like 537 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: thirty four thirty five middle of this month, and it 538 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: starts to go back up after about the fifteenth of January, 539 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: and it's all up from there. I mean, yeah, not 540 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: up fast enough. So maybe if we all just open 541 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: our doors, creaked up the heat, open the doors, share 542 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: the bill go up. So it goes up a little bit. 543 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: But so now, Cherry, I also wanted to talk to you. 544 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: There's a bill that was introduced that the legislature obviously 545 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: goes into session on Monday. There's a bill that's been introduced. 546 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: It's going to require school corporations across Indiana to have 547 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: a poster with the text of the Ten Commandments in 548 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: each school library and classroom. Where are you on this? 549 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 2: I think it's overreach for me personally, and I just 550 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 2: a couple segments ago said yeah, I'm Catholic. 551 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: I believe in God followed Jesus. 552 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: This is overreach to me because if you allow it, 553 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 2: if you allow it for Christians, then what stopped somebody 554 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 2: else from doing a different face whatever they are? 555 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: Right? 556 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: So if we start saying, okay, Minneapoli schools are going 557 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 2: to start putting up the Quran and stuff like, that's 558 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: what the president we're setting it is. 559 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: And I think that's what some people don't understand. I 560 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: know Toddrakeda is wanting to put the Ten Commandments on. 561 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: I think it's not a good president. 562 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, because what happens if you have like the 563 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 2: the Satanist temple goes, Well, if you guys have your religion, 564 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: we want to have our religion then right right? 565 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: What about what about the atheists. 566 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: Out to any of them? Yeah, well you guys have nothing. 567 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: It just a wall with nothing. Yeah, just a frame, 568 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: just a picture frame with nothing in it. 569 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: There you go, Son, What there was a couple of 570 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: years ago, wasn't there an issue where what there was 571 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: some some Christian group that was outside at the State 572 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: House and they're having a rally for something and it 573 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: was inclement weather, and I think well of the legislators 574 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: that actually invited them in, which then opened the door 575 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: to a Satanic wedding after that. Okay, so so yeah, 576 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: it happens. And do you believe in whatever you want it? 577 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not my problem, but I have to 578 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 2: keep in mind that if I infringe on you, then 579 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: you have the right to infringe on me, right, And 580 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: I want to keep away from all that. 581 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 1: That is the biggest thing. I had that conversation with 582 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: our current lieutenant governor and he was wanting to implement 583 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: all these Christian things in the government. I'm like, because 584 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: he goes, well, we don't want the Muslims doing that. 585 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, the problem is if you do that right now, 586 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: and you set right, you set the precedent that whoever 587 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: the victor is gets to set whatever religion we're going 588 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: to embrace, not even the victory. 589 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: You have the acl you chomping at the bit for 590 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 2: something like this. 591 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: Yes, and it's the goes back to what I said 592 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: earlier in the show. If we could just live by 593 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: the golden rule, you know you do to me, I'll 594 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: do to you what you what I would want you 595 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: to do to me. I don't know why we can't 596 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: just be cool with each other and say, yeah, we 597 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: have different religions, good luck to you. 598 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we should definitely bring back the pledge. 599 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: Don't know if they do the pledge every day? We 600 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: should bring that back. 601 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: Which pledge? The Pledge of Allegiance? Well, I know the 602 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: Pledge of Allegiance, but which version I don't know, the 603 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: pre fifties version that did not include under God. 604 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 2: I don't really care which version with but which. 605 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even know. I haven't been around a 606 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: school long. 607 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: I mean, if you have an issue with under God, 608 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 2: you can give me every dollar bill in your pocket, 609 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 2: just that you're not offended. Right, If you're using cash 610 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: and you're complaining about under God being somewhere, then like 611 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: you have no principles to stand on. 612 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: So all right, now you mentioned cash, we're gonna now 613 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: morph into no more pennies. Yeah, I know, it's not 614 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: a surprise. 615 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: They got rid of the one brown coin, you know 616 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: what I mean, The one brown guy had a good ride. 617 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: That's a good old day. Sorry. 618 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they even had him facing the other way. 619 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: Just did my boyd dirty? 620 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,479 Speaker 2: No I don't know how we're gonna carey people come 621 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: out with the two coins, so it'll be hell yeah, 622 00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: two cent coin. 623 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna get the two pen Yeah. 624 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: This is weird because you know, I've seen it on McDonald's. 625 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: We talked about this. So if you pay with your card, 626 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: it costs what it costs. If you pay with cash, 627 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: they're going to round your price up or round your 628 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: price down because they're not going to give you pennies. 629 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: So then like you're going to overpay in a lot. 630 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: Of cases, but more than four cents. 631 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: Sure, But if you have two hundred thousand McDonald's points like. 632 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: I do, that adds up. That's the premise for office 633 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: space and also itah yeah, so which I don't know 634 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: how we'll be able to kick in our two cents now. 635 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there's no such thing, and they'll have 636 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: to change the prices on everything here for too long. 637 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's gonna have to be rounding. Yeah. 638 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: The issue with this is I think it makes it 639 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: one step closer to trying to make it digital currency, 640 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: and I don't want that. So I think you should 641 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 2: be forced to accept cash. 642 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, some places just won't do it. 643 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: Someplaces are card only. I don't like when I go 644 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 2: to the basketball games whatever and there's no cash, is 645 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: card only. I'm like, that should be illegal. This is 646 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: legal tender in this country. You should not be able 647 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 2: to force me to bank, right. 648 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: So how much do you pay in cash and how 649 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: much do you pay with the card? 650 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: I pay almost everything in cat you know, almost everything 651 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 2: in card these days. If I have cash, it's because 652 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 2: I had to give my kids something and then I 653 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 2: just pulled out twenty dollars for me and then we'll 654 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: just see what happens with that. 655 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: But most things are with my card. Okay, my wife 656 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: carries no cash now. I like to have a little 657 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: in my pocket just because which Yeah, most most things 658 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: still get paid with the card, just because it's you know, 659 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: if you buy a take a cass that's fifty bucks, 660 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: it's easier to put it on the card. I don't 661 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: have to walk inside. 662 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you should have the option for cash anywhere 663 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: you go. 664 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's I mean that obviously. Well. I used 665 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: to run the Indian License Beverage Association and that was 666 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: always an issue with our members that you know, Visa 667 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: and MasterCard are taking three to four percent of every transaction. 668 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: So you know, if somebody pays with cash, it in 669 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: theory the bar keeps more. Now, the down side of 670 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: that is you're opening yourself up to employee theft. 671 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 2: So there's the pizza joint. I feel bad that I don't 672 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: remember the name, but it's right there. 673 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: On the circle. Okay, oh Georgios. 674 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, phenomenal. I'm gonna miss it because we're over here now, 675 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: but they have it. If you pay with cash, you're 676 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: it's a little cheaper. Great, And I think that's because 677 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: they don't have to pay the fee to whoever. Visa 678 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: big thing. I mean, it's I mean, if you're doing 679 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,959 Speaker 2: that with a thousand customers a day, that's a big 680 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 2: chunk of money you're losing. 681 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: It is, Yeah, And so Visa and master Card are 682 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: making that just for offering that service, but effectively they 683 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: have now three percent of the economy. Wow. So if 684 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: there's so Indiana sales tax is what seven percent? Then 685 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: you tack another three percent on for Visa MasterCard. So 686 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: ten percent of what you're paying on any transaction is 687 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: either going to taxes or it's just going to Visa. 688 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 2: Not even to the person that sold you it. And 689 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 2: not to the item correct. 690 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: So it's yeah that that starts adding up over a while. 691 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: But I'm with you. It's there's there's a convenience factor 692 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: and going with a card. 693 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, when the network goes down, do you how 694 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 2: can you buy anything? 695 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: Right? 696 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: Like, you don't attack America? If you shut down the. 697 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: Internet, We're done. 698 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: Oh have you ever given somebody change after they've already 699 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: rang up something because you realized, oh, if I give 700 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: you seven cents, I get back two dins? 701 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: Instead? 702 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 2: Their heads explode. They don't know how to do basic math, right. 703 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: It's like, well I don't and I just pushed all 704 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: the change to you. 705 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: Does this make me a jerk? I paid with cash 706 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: one time, and you know, I gave the girl the 707 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: coins and I'm and she's just sitting there looking at me. 708 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you owe me fifty cents. She goes, 709 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: how do you know that? And my response was I 710 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: paid attention to math class. 711 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah it does make you yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't 712 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 2: know where you were going with that. 713 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: Definitely, So I'm a jerk. He chose violence that day. Well, 714 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to whoever that clerk was. I'm going to 715 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: continue to pay in cash, and I'm going to continue 716 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: to give coins I would have when the last time 717 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: will be that I get a penny back and change 718 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: like a physical penny. 719 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I mean start start keeping them. 720 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: Why, I don't know. 721 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: Maybe it'll be worth something. 722 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: I could be one of those people that puts a 723 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: pity down and makes a floor out of it in 724 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: my bathroom. There you go, there you go? Yeah, all right, perfect, 725 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: all righty. The cost of that floor just went up 726 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: with scarcity. You're listening to Brad Cloffins sign Jerry Lopez. 727 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: We are filling in for Rob and Casey today. Wohen 728 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: we come back. We are going to be having our 729 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: predictions for twenty twenty six. Jerry. We got to be 730 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: the first ones on the show to make our predictions record, 731 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: so we will be right back after the break. Don't 732 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: Go Anywhere ninety three WIBC, Kittle and Casey Show. Brad Clothenstein, 733 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: Jerry Lopez filling in. Jerry. I have enjoyed this immensely 734 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: with you today. 735 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: This has been a fun one. It has been a 736 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: fun one. 737 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: Been relaxed. January second. I think it helps when the 738 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: expectations are low. 739 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it helps everybody's sluggish today exactly. 740 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: It's some people or well, there's a lot of people 741 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: that are hungover with euphoria from the IU win yesterday. 742 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: So uh, In this last segment that we have, I 743 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: want to get to some predictions with you. I had 744 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: this down at the bottom of the list, but I'm 745 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: going to start with US. As we just mentioned it, 746 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: does I you win an a national championship this year 747 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: and this this goes towards your fandom. Yeah, depending on 748 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: how you answer this, you may or may not chinx it. 749 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have to say no because I've bet 750 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: against them every round. 751 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: I don't know why you hate I. 752 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 2: You Yeah, well I don't hate IU, but yeah, I 753 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 2: will say no, and I will say that they're only 754 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 2: going to get better too. They're going to get transfers 755 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: that come in. They're gonna now I US is going 756 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 2: to be a football school. It's a destination for sure. 757 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 2: So now you're going to get the kid from Texas 758 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 2: who's going to transfer to IU. The kid from Ohio 759 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 2: State that was the number two receiver behind Jeremiah Smith 760 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 2: that maybe goes to IU because he wants to play now, 761 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 2: So that that's the big thing of all this. 762 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: It's great marketing for the school. But I say, no, 763 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,479 Speaker 1: it is. I think, yeah, as long as signetic he's there, 764 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,959 Speaker 1: he's telling people to google himself. Yeah. 765 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 2: Fun fact. So Jason Hammer texted me earlier. The championship 766 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 2: the final is in Miami. Right, so the teams that 767 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 2: are left now you have IU is going to play Oregon, 768 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: and then you have Miami's gonna. 769 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: Play whoever miss. They're gonna play Old Miss. 770 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 2: If Miami wins, they're gonna play the National championship game 771 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 2: in Miami. 772 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: That's a home game. That is a home game. 773 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: IU wins, the Miami kid Mendoza goes back home to 774 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 2: play in a national championship, maybe against Miami. 775 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: Could you imagine that story? Tell would that be your 776 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: dream National championship? 777 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 2: That would be Yeah, that would be a fantastic game. 778 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Hey, they've had a good run. It's well, 779 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: it's gonna I'm going to say it's going to continue. 780 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: Hard to beat a team twice. It is very hard 781 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: to beat a team twice. However, as we mentioned, IU 782 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: the number one seed. The next highest remaining seed is 783 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: Oregon at number five, Right, so two three, four, they're 784 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: out and beat them at Oregon. Yes, so, yeah, they 785 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: beat them at Oregon. This is going to be pretty 786 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: much a very pro IU crowd because it's down in Atlanta. 787 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 1: So it's a heck of a lot easier to travel 788 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: to Atlanta. That's a five hundred miles. You get down 789 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: there in eight hours if you're driving easy flights down there. 790 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: So I'm going to follow that up with college basketball. 791 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: Does Purdue win an ADDY this year? No? No? Yeah, 792 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 1: just too hard. 793 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, the expectations are national championship now at Purdue. 794 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: I think that's huge. 795 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like, iye, you next for year 796 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: for football, It's like we expect to make the playoff. 797 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: Once you do that enough, then yes. 798 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: National championship will be the expectation. But I think you 799 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 2: just have to get used to getting there. 800 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 801 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 2: I mean, how many times I don't want to bring 802 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 2: up old memories for you, but how many times are 803 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: you number one seed and got caught slipping on a 804 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: game that you should have blown them out? Oh my gosh, right, 805 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 2: and you have to do that until you realize we 806 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 2: still got to show up and play. Yeah, and you 807 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 2: do that enough times. Now you're in the show. So 808 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 2: the consistency Purdue has says they will in one. 809 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be this year. Okay, Well that 810 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: they've got Westfield's Braden Smith at that point, he's he's 811 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: a baller. He's on track to potentially setting on the 812 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: record for the most career assists in college basketball. He 813 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: is a baller. Yep. Yeah. I mean their core has 814 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: been there now for four years. This is probably as 815 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: good opportunities have had in my lifetime. Love you, if 816 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: you have your group for four years, that's how you 817 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: that's how you get it you it is, which that 818 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: is so rare. 819 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 2: And see the coach, everybody stays around. We already know 820 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: unspoken verbiage between teammates, so. 821 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: Just give the nod and the look. That's it. So 822 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: our other prognostications, we're gonna shift it back to politics. 823 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 1: Anything going to be done about property taxes this year? 824 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: I don't think so, And it's really disappointing it is. Yep, 825 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 826 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 2: And I think that the more the conversation comes out 827 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 2: about property taxes, the rest of us are going to 828 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 2: realize they would just adjust the tax somewhere else and 829 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 2: you're still going to pay the sound out. 830 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: Well, and that's that's the big thing. It doesn't matter 831 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: where you cut taxes unless you cut spending right to 832 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: go along with it. Yes, are going to get their 833 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: money somehow. 834 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 2: And look around. These places are not hurting for cash. 835 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 2: They're just spinning it incorrectly. 836 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: There's we talked about it earlier. There is a lot 837 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: government is ripe for fraud and abuse. And yes, Doge 838 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: was not wrong. Yep, and I wish they would have 839 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: continued that. Is there going to be any fallout about 840 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: the failed re districting. We'll see. 841 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 2: I had Scott Presler on Friday. He's a national voice, 842 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,479 Speaker 2: big Trump guy. He's coming into town. He's talking about 843 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 2: primary and everybody. Well, we will see if people still 844 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 2: care in Indiana. We'll see if the Trump administration even 845 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 2: still cares, or if anybody cares after some other things 846 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 2: have already happened. This is fresh. Let it go by 847 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 2: for a little bit. 848 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 1: We'll see if anybody even cares. Yeah, so what filing 849 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: I think opens up in pretty much two weeks, right, 850 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: and yeah, we'll see how many challengers. There are two incumbents, 851 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: which I like seeing incumbents challenge. Yeah, I mean just 852 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: they should be challenged. I mean, I've always said competition 853 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 1: makes us all stronger. Yep, and yeah, and sometimes it's yeah, 854 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: it's good to have a little competition. Be curious to 855 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: see if the challengers who are pro redistricting have any 856 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: traction and how many of them there are so to 857 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: be determined. My next question for you, will Joe hog 858 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: Set run for re election? Will he adorse someone like 859 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: Fop Osley or Ryan Meers. 860 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he's gonna run. I think Ryan 861 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 2: Meers is going to be the guy. I said earlier, 862 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 2: if redistricting would have passed, Andre Carts would have lost 863 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 2: his seat. 864 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: I thought he would have been the guy. 865 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 2: Since that's now done, Like you said, mirrors just popped 866 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 2: up out of nowhere. 867 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: Now he's started to do media. Oh he's everywhere. He's 868 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: ramping up now that he knows it's gonna be him. Okay, So, 869 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: which I think that had they really done redistricting, he 870 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: would have been eyeing a congressional seat. Yeah, so potentially, 871 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: or it would have that would have meant that Andre 872 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: Carson probably would have run from mayor Carson would have 873 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: came Yeah for me, so interesting, Which that one's still 874 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: a year out, but I know that people have been 875 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: jockeying for that for quite some time. Well, you ask 876 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: who is in more disarray right now? The Republicans are Democrats. 877 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 2: I mean, the Democrats live in a state of disarray. 878 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 2: But it's wild because as many hats as they have 879 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 2: under that tent, whether it's the LGBT, the pro choice, 880 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 2: all these different groups, Antifa, they all support. Whenever each 881 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 2: other's bill comes up, all of them get behind that 882 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 2: same horse. 883 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: And Conservatives don't do that. 884 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 2: We we're independent by nature, so it's hard to find 885 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 2: the group think, and I think that causes disarray. That's 886 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 2: why we have problems getting things like this past. If 887 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 2: this was California, it'd be nine to zero. 888 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. So which the Democrats can be wacky unfortunately, I mean, well, 889 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: and I'm looking I mean the way I look at it, 890 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: the middle is ripe. Yeah, for somebody who's reasonable. Can 891 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: the Libertarians be those people? Or they also whacky? 892 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 2: I mean they have some good ideas, but then they 893 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 2: have some wacky ones too, Right, I think most of 894 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 2: us are just left the right of center. Get you 895 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 2: and any standard Democrat just talk. You probably disagree on 896 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 2: two or three things. 897 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. So the more I'm around, the more I realize 898 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: every political party has their crazies and it's just a 899 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: matter of how crazy are they and how much how 900 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: much influence do you let them have. Yeah, so I 901 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: had a great time with you to day, dude, I 902 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 1: had an awesome time. Thanks for sitting in. I'm Brad Clofenstein. 903 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 1: That's Cherry Lopez. We've been hanging out with you guys 904 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: all morning. Appreciate it. Coming up after the break, Tony 905 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 1: is Tony Cats in today? Do you have any idea 906 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: Tony Kats is in? Tony Kats is in today, So 907 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: stay tuned Tony Kats, Cherry, I'll catch you next time. 908 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:25,959 Speaker 1: I have a great twenty twenty six.