1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: On a brisk fall day. A single phone call forever 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: changes the lives of a Midwest family's future, with the 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: promising future ahead and effectively leaving the past behind. Grandmother 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Robin Young has vanished. Detectives are on the hunt. What 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: happened to Robin Young? What happens when love becomes fatal? 6 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: This is the Fatal Attraction podcast with Chasing a Monster. 7 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: November thirteenth, two thousand and eight. It's Thursday morning in 8 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: Rock Island, Illinois, one of the quad cities that bracket 9 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 2: the banks of the Mississippi as it flows between Illinois 10 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: and Iowa. 11 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 3: The quad cities are. 12 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 4: Rock Island and Moline on the Illinois side, and Davenport 13 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 4: and Bettendorf across the river Iowa. 14 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 3: It just seems like one big city. Population wise, we're 15 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,279 Speaker 3: probably at about three hundred thousand. 16 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: Yet it's still retains that small town Midwest field. 17 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: That's a good place to left, a good place to 18 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 3: raise family. 19 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 5: Nachoir cities. To me, it's just real quiet. 20 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: But the mist has barely burned off the river that 21 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: quiet morning. When Diamond Young gets an unexpected call at 22 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: seven fifteen, I'd asked at the phone, hello, and it 23 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 2: was my niece's voice. 24 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: I'm Diamond, Grandma's not here. 25 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: What do you mean she's in there? 26 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: I woke up and she was gone. 27 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: The little girl lives with Diamond's mother, fifty year old 28 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: Robin Young. 29 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: Is Papa there. 30 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: Papa is what the little girl calls her grandmother's boyfriend, 31 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: fifty nine year old Chuck Harris. 32 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 5: She's calling me from Chuck's number. 33 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 6: Robin's granddaughter said that Charles had come to pick her. 34 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: Up and take her to school. He would do that occasionally. 35 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 3: He had a very good relationship with the granddaughter with 36 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: Chuck Fair. 37 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: Robin's daughter breathed a sigh of relief. 38 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 7: I'm like, maybe she got called into work and she 39 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 7: called Chuck. I had Chuck come over. 40 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 8: Robin with a thirty five nursing assistant, so she sometimes 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 8: got called in on short notice. 42 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: I'll call gram at work and see what's going on. 43 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 5: Papa can take you to school. 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: But even after Diamond reassures her niece that everything is okay, 45 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: there's a nagging worry at the back of her mind. 46 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 6: Robin had some difficulties earlier in life that she was 47 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 6: working through. 48 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 3: She had a rough pass right with drugs. 49 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 7: I had saw her relapse quite a few times. 50 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 5: Oh where are you? 51 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 4: The biggest fear when a loved one relapses is that 52 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 4: it could be the last time calling when hitness Chicago needed. 53 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 2: Robin Young was known for her loving, outgoing personality. 54 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 5: She was a lot of fun to be around. My 55 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 5: mom was real spunky, that's called it a firecracker. 56 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: And she shared an especially close bond with her two children. 57 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 5: I was the second child. I have an older brother. 58 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 9: They had a great relationship. She was a good mom. 59 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: The bond between Robin and her children's father wasn't just 60 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 2: lasting though. 61 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 5: They separated when I was sixteen. 62 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 7: Me and my brother watched them try to make it work, 63 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 7: but after a while they just became too much for everybody. 64 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: In the aftermath, Robin's life imploded. To deal with the pain, 65 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: she turned to drugs. 66 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 7: She definitely tried to hide it and tried to keep 67 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 7: it together as much as she could, but knew something 68 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 7: was going on. 69 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: Things got even worse when Robin met a man named 70 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: Omar Weeks. 71 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 7: There was already some history before, and then they just 72 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 7: weren't good for each other. 73 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 8: Omar got Robin hooked on crack cocaine. 74 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 7: To watch her go from being such a strong, strong 75 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 7: person who hold her down to. 76 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: That was hard to watch. Robin did try to kick 77 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: the habit. She went to treatment multiple times. 78 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: She did. 79 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 4: Usually she'd go into rehab whenever Omar was in jail. 80 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 7: She would get herself together, and then when he would 81 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 7: get out, she would like relapse. 82 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: It's like. 83 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 9: When people are in dark places sometimes it's kind of 84 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 9: hard to get out. 85 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: But in two thousand and five, when Omar went to 86 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: jail for more than three years, Robin tried to make 87 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: a clean break. 88 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 7: I was living in Rock Islands, so stay with me 89 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 7: for about three four weeks and she. 90 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: Got her an apartment, quiet life and the quantities was 91 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: the change she needed. 92 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: She was doing good, she was in a good place. 93 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 5: She came here and got her life together. 94 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: Robin took classes to become a certified nursing assistant. 95 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 7: I remember her being nervous because they had been so 96 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 7: long since she had been to school. 97 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: She got her certification and a job at a local 98 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: nursing home. 99 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 3: She took a lot of pride in her job. She 100 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: took very good care of the patients. 101 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 5: She just generally is a nurturer. 102 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: That same nurturing spirit showed in Robin's loving relationship with 103 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: her granddaughter. 104 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 6: I think it speaks volumes that she took her granddaughter 105 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 6: in and allowed the granddaughters to live with her. 106 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 7: I believe that my mom felt like she could write 107 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 7: some wrongs with me with my niece. 108 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 5: She was making the most out of her second chance. 109 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: Robin also opened herself up to love again with a 110 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 2: man named Chuck Harris. 111 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 5: He was a really nice guy, nice looking guy, clean 112 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 5: but very friendly. 113 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: Like Robin, Chuck was a Chicago native who'd come to 114 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: the Quad Cities looking to start over. 115 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: He had a long history of the drug abuse. 116 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 9: They met a narcota's anonymous. 117 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 5: They had home of the same struggles. 118 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: And like Robin, he turned his life around. 119 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 10: Charles worked at treatments in rehabilitation facility in Davenport. 120 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 9: He was down to earth, He was clyde. He seemed 121 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 9: like he was a humble guy. 122 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 5: They were a little with each other. They were real 123 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 5: cute together. 124 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: Chuck also helped Robin take care of her granddaughter cha Papa. 125 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 5: It was always them three together. 126 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: Seemed like everything was going great. 127 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 9: He was happy and she looked very happy. 128 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: So when her niece calls early on the morning of 129 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: November thirteen, he was not here. Robin's daughter, Diamond isn't 130 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: initially alarmed. Papa can take you to school. 131 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 5: I'll find out where grandma. 132 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: Okay, he's up. 133 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 11: Tone with Diamond. Charles takes her to school. 134 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 8: Diamond figured that her mom had just gotten called into 135 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 8: work early and slipped out before her granddaughter woke up. 136 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 7: When I got off the phone with her, I kind 137 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 7: of laid back down because again it was early in 138 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 7: the morning. 139 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: But Diamond quickly gets up again, now wrecked with worries. 140 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 7: What she said registered to me, like my mom wasn't 141 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 7: still all night. 142 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: Robin just would not leave that child alone overnight. 143 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more of this gripping episode of the 144 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: Fatal Attraction podcast. 145 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: After years of struggling with addiction, fifty year old Robin 146 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: Young had finally turned her life around. 147 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 5: She started over just she hit a baby. She just 148 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 5: took off every young She was. 149 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: Taking care of her granddaughter, her son's daughter. 150 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 2: She had a good job, and she'd fell in love 151 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 2: with a new boyfriend of Charles Harris. 152 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: It seemed like they was in a good place. 153 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: But now Robin has disappeared. 154 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 10: Robin's granddaughter woke up and saw that her grandmother was 155 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 10: a home, which was very unusual. 156 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: Well, Robin's boyfriend takes the ten year old to school. 157 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 2: Diamond desperately tries to reach her mother. 158 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: There's no way that Robin would just take off and 159 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: leave her granddaughter. Mama, where are you call me when 160 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: you get this? 161 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 7: Her phone just kept going to voicemail, and so I 162 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 7: called her job. 163 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 5: They said if she wasn't there. 164 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: Diamond was very concerned. 165 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 7: I in contact to everybody that I know that would 166 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 7: even know anything about my. 167 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: Mom, even more aunt. When she tries to follow up 168 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: with Chuck, she can't get a hold of him either. 169 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 5: To call him like Brutann that he never asked. 170 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 2: Unable to reach Chuck, Diamond goes to her mother's apartment. 171 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: Mom. 172 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 7: I went over and like kind of looked around to 173 00:09:58,600 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 7: see if like was her person. 174 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: A little whilely, the wallet is there, miss but Diamond 175 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: notices that some things are missing. 176 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 4: Her Debby card wasn't any Robin's cell phone was also 177 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 4: nowhere to be found inside the apartment. 178 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: Is it possible Robin had run off without telling anyone. 179 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 8: Robin had a history of drug addiction, so a relapse 180 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 8: wasn't out of the question. 181 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 2: However, Diamond can shake the feeling that this isn't drug related. 182 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 5: So just disappear. She would never do that. 183 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 8: Diamond couldn't help but think that her mom may be 184 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 8: in real trouble. 185 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: After searching her mom's apartment, Damon picks up her niece 186 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: from school. 187 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 7: I took her back to my mom's house and I 188 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 7: was asking her, you know, what was she doing yesterday? 189 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: The little girls, as her grandmother had been at work 190 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: when she got out of school on Wednesday. 191 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 6: Charles picked her up from school, brought her home and 192 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 6: left because he said he want to get some rust 193 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 6: before he had to go into work. 194 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 11: That night, about eight point thirty, Robin comes home. 195 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 3: I'm sure from school. I'm not getting it right now. 196 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 5: My niece said. 197 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 7: When she came in, he was arguing with somebody on 198 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 7: the phone. 199 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: But not long after arriving home. According to her granddaughter, 200 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: Robin had abruptly left. Go ahead and go to bed now, sweetie. 201 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: I'll be back in a little while. Okay, see. 202 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 5: Right down, she said. As my mom was leaving, she 203 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 5: got the argument on the phone again. 204 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: But who was the person on the other end of 205 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 2: the phone. 206 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 4: If Robin had relapsed and started taking drugs again. Maybe 207 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 4: she had gotten into some kind of trouble. 208 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 5: I just had no idea who we were dealing with. 209 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: After arranging a sitter for her niece, Diamond drops my 210 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: Chuck's apartment across the river in Davenport, Iowa. 211 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 7: I still have not heard from him. Nobody's asked from 212 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 7: his door. So I'm knocking on the neighbor's door, and 213 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 7: the woman that lived. 214 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 5: Across from him, she's just like, you know, have you 215 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 5: heard anything? 216 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: Chuck told me Robins missing? 217 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: Where this morning? 218 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: According to Chuck's neighbor, after taking Robin's granddaughter to school, 219 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: he came home but left again quickly. Chuck told his 220 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: neighbor that he was going to go looking for Robin. 221 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 8: Then the neighbor told Diamond there had been no sign 222 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 8: of him since. 223 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 7: I thought maybe something happened to them both, like he 224 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 7: must have went and tried to get my mom and 225 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 7: something happened to them. 226 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 2: Diamond goes to the police reports her mother missing. 227 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 4: They issued to be on the lookout for Robin, Chuck, 228 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 4: and both of their cars and pass that information along 229 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 4: to the local news media. 230 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: They also contact the police in Davenport. Once Davenport police 231 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: learned the situation, they headed over to Chuck's apartment to 232 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: do a welfare check. The search reveals new clues about 233 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: Robin or Chuck's disappearance. 234 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 6: There is also no obvious indication of a struggle inside 235 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 6: Charles's house. 236 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: There's no indication that Chuck has been back since that 237 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: morning either. 238 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 3: With the information that both Robin and Charles were missing, 239 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: we felt pretty strongly that something serious had happened. 240 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: When detectives go to search Robin's apartment, they find the 241 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: first real indication that she might be involved in something dangerous. 242 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 4: The police found several nine millimeter cartridges hidden inside Robin's apartment. 243 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 3: We didn't find any firearms in the residence. 244 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: Maybe if she's taken the gun with her for protection 245 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: check this out. But where could she have gone? Detectives 246 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: believe they may be able to find out on. 247 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 3: A y TAM card. Her debit card was missing. 248 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 12: We contacted her bank and subpoena the information. 249 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 3: For her bank account. 250 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 10: It's a very good tool to track the movements of 251 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 10: an individual. 252 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: Thank you for When detectives get the information from the bank, 253 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: it shows that Robin or whoever has her card is 254 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: on the move. 255 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 10: The card is being used traveling across Illinois. 256 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 12: There was money being withdrawn on the South side of Chicago. 257 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: Was it possible and had relaxed and fallen back into 258 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: our old life? 259 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 5: She loves Chicago. That's where she grew up. 260 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: It's also where Robin's old boyfriend, Omar Weeks lived. 261 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 4: Maybe he had gotten out of jail and lured her 262 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 4: back into her old life. 263 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: Or was the trail to Chicago a dead end. While 264 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: waiting on more information from Robin's think, a man calls 265 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: the Davenport Police with another lead. 266 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: He tells us that he was walking and he passed 267 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: by the vehicle that he saw in a news story. 268 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 11: Our patrol officers respond. 269 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 6: They look inside the vehicle and they see a female 270 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 6: slumped over in the back seat. 271 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: The vehicle was opened see if she needed medical assistance. 272 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 8: As soon as they opened the door, officers realized they 273 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 8: were too late. 274 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more of this gripping episode of the 275 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: Fatal Attraction Podcast. 276 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: Five days after Robin Young disappeared, detectives in Davenport, Iowa, 277 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: believed they found the fifty year old nursing assistant's body, 278 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: and I. 279 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 6: The person watched the news earlier that night, sees the 280 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 6: vehicle and calls, and I will want to report the vehicle. 281 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: In the back seat of the car, laying face down 282 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: behind the front passenger seat was the body. 283 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: Detectives they're fairly confident that the dead woman is Robin. 284 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 3: The body was in her vehicle, the clothing. 285 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: Match, but despite the demons in her past, detectives quickly 286 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: realized Robin's death was no overdose. 287 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 11: They see a small puddle of blood under an her head. 288 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 3: She'd been struck in the head several times. 289 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 2: The detectives doubt that she had been killed in the car. 290 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 11: We observed she had a little bit of dust on 291 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 11: her back. 292 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 3: Whoever put her there dragged her body for a while 293 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 3: and then placed her in the vehicle. 294 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: Hoping to locate a witness, The detectives fan out and 295 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: start knocking on doors. 296 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 12: It's an older established neighborhood, so people noticed that this 297 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 12: car was sitting there. 298 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: Detectives are still talking to neighbors when Robin's daughter, Diamond, 299 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: gets worried that her mother may have been found. 300 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 5: My free to call me. 301 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 3: It's it. 302 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 5: She just read a stormy online it's it. 303 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 3: They found the woman's mighty. 304 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 7: In the cars though a call now on one and 305 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 7: the woman that said, miss Young, I'm so sorry. 306 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 5: Nobody has come to tell you yet. And I just 307 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 5: lost it, like everything, and. 308 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 3: He just came come the coop, be lady, she was 309 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 3: a coup. 310 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: Once her daughter makes a positive identification, the medical examiner 311 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 2: conducts an autopsy and confirms that Robin's death was a homicide. 312 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 3: Robin died of blunt force injuries to the head. She 313 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 3: had some defensive wounds on her hands and arms. 314 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 2: In addition, the to psychology results find no evidence that 315 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: Robin was on drugs when she died. 316 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 3: The only thing she had in her system was caffeine. 317 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 8: Despite fears that she relapsed, Robin had remained committed to 318 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 8: her recovery. 319 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 2: But now that it's clear Robin has been murdered, one question. 320 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 3: Remained, who want to do her like this? 321 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: There was no sign at the crime scene of Jack Harris, 322 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 2: Robin's boyfriend, who also disappeared shortly after she did. 323 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 5: Nobody knows where Chuck is. 324 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 4: Robin's daughter worried that Chuck may have gone looking for 325 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 4: her mother and met the same horrible state. 326 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: Detectives get a warrant and return to the apartment where 327 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: Robin's boyfriend lives to conduct a second, more thorough search. 328 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 6: During that first search, they were looking strictly for the 329 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 6: person and as. 330 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 10: It and a search warrant, you're looking for evidence of 331 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 10: a crime, and that could be anything from the smallest 332 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 10: item to looking for an actual murder weapon. 333 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: This time, detectives do find a small amount of blood. 334 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 3: We located some blood on the bathroom floor. The blood 335 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: was collected and sent to the state. 336 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 2: Laugh, is the blood Robin's or Chuck's. 337 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 7: As much as Chuck cared about my mom, he would 338 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 7: be trying to figure out what's going on. 339 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 5: So I'm even thinking like maybe they got him too. 340 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 2: One thing is certain though, After running Robin's ex boyfriend, 341 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: Omar Week's name through the database, detectives know he isn't 342 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 2: her killer. 343 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 3: I'm going to mention. 344 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 8: Omar in his trouble with the law, which she reported 345 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 8: her mother. 346 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 5: And Chuck missing. 347 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 4: It turned out Omar was actually still in prison at 348 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 4: the time. 349 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 3: Of Robin's murder. 350 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: With Omar ruled out and still no sign of Chuck, 351 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: detectives reach out to US coworkers at their rehab center. 352 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 8: Detectives wanted to find out if anyone at work had 353 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 8: seen or heard from him since he and Robin disappeared. 354 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 2: Chuck's manager tells detectives they've been worried because he hasn't 355 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: been in over the last several days. 356 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 9: He built the good rapport with the client, and he 357 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 9: had a good for with all the staff members they are. 358 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 2: According to one coworker, Chuck had an especially good rapport 359 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 2: with one staff member, a young woman named Katrina Laurence. 360 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 3: We were told that they had a father daughter relationship, 361 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 3: that she looked up towards him and he kind of 362 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 3: looked after her. 363 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 2: Although she also says she sensed that there may have 364 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: been more to the relationship. 365 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 5: May just doesn't look right. 366 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 4: Maybe you mean she thought Chuck and Katrina were having 367 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 4: an affair where she. 368 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 3: The hanging on a flirt and. 369 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 2: Detectives investigating the murder of Robin Young have learned that 370 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 2: her missing boyfriend, Chuck Harris, may have been seeing another 371 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: woman on the side. 372 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 5: He was very close with the woman. 373 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 2: He worked with at the Rehead Center. 374 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 3: It just doesn't look right to it. 375 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 4: One of their coworkers even suspected that he and the 376 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 4: woman had a sexual relationship. 377 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: But when detectives bring twenty three year old Katrina Lawrence 378 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: in for questioning. She denies there's any sort of romantic relationship. 379 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: Seems like you were pretty close. 380 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 2: Who told you that? 381 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: Was just friends? That's all. So we're wearing last Wednesday night. 382 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: How does at work, Katrina tails detective. She works third 383 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: shift at the rehab center. 384 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: It's a place where people with drug and alcohol problems 385 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 3: go and they need around the clock employees there. 386 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: However, an alibi isn't all that Katrina offers them. 387 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 5: Chuck was supposed to work too, but he never shows. 388 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 3: He called in to work and said he was sick. 389 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 11: But when we found out that he had called in 390 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 11: sick that night and immediately raised some red flags to us. 391 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 8: On the evening Robin disappeared. Check had told our granddaughter 392 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 8: that he was going to get into work. 393 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 3: So when's the last time you heard from Chuck? 394 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 5: The next morning, I saw him at the school. 395 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 3: Her children go to the same school that Robin's granddaughter 396 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 3: goes to, So as she's taking her children to school, 397 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: she sees Charles dropping off. Robin's granddaughter. Did say anything 398 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: to you? 399 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 5: Not much? It is still sick. 400 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: She tells her that He's going to go back home 401 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 3: and go to bed. 402 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: A detective's wonder if he'd really been stick at home. 403 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 10: Arguably something had happened that changed his plans. 404 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 2: Hoping to learn more, detectives pulled Chuck's phone records, which 405 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: revealed that Katrina and Chuck had a long phone conversation 406 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: on Thursday morning. 407 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 3: The phone call was right around fifteen minutes. 408 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 4: Katrina hadn't said anything to detectives about the phone call 409 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 4: when they interviewed her. 410 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: However, Uck's phone records also revealed that Chuck made two 411 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 2: separate phone calls to Robin on Wednesday night, one at 412 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: around eight thirty and another about an hour later. 413 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 8: Those calls coincided with Robin's granddaughter hearing her argue with 414 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 8: someone over the phone. 415 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: Chuck's phone records don't offer detectives any clues as to 416 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 2: his whereabouts. 417 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 4: However, there hadn't been any activity on Chuck's phone since Thursday, 418 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 4: the day after Robin disappeared. 419 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: However, the phone records do reveal that Robin and Katrina 420 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: weren't the only people he'd been in contact with before 421 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 2: going silent. He'd also called a woman named Marilyn Black. 422 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 6: Charles had talked to Marilyn on the thirteenth in the 423 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 6: early morning. 424 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 8: Detectives believed that Robin's murder had been sometime late on 425 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 8: Wednesday the twelfth. 426 00:24:54,680 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: Telephone records blanked Maryland, which Charles after Robin's stuff. So 427 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 3: we brought her down to the police department. Well, what 428 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: exactly is your relationship with Charles? 429 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 5: I guess you can say we hung out. 430 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: When we sat down with Marylyn, she was very evasive. 431 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 2: But when detective press, Marilyn eventually admits that her relationship 432 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: with Chuck was physical. 433 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 6: Marilyn knew that Charles was with Robin as well. 434 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 3: She considered herself kind of a side girlfriend of his. 435 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: He would call her and they would get together and meet. 436 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 2: She says she hasn't talked to Chuck in a couple 437 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 2: of weeks. 438 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 3: She denies any phone calls between the two of them 439 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 3: on the twelfth and the thirteenth, Detective Noonan shows her, Hey, 440 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 3: we have the phone records. We know how many times 441 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 3: he called you. 442 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 5: Okay, he called me, So what what did you talk about? 443 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 5: I don't remember exactly. 444 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 6: You could tell that she was trying to protect Charles 445 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 6: in some way. 446 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 3: The detectives keep pushing. She bled and denied it for 447 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 3: quite some time, and then finally what we were able 448 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 3: to get from her was that he came over to 449 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 3: her residence about two or three o'clock in the morning 450 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 3: on the thirteenth. He gave her twenty dollars, said to 451 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: be the last time you see me. Did he say why? 452 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 3: She admitted he told her that he and Robin had 453 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 3: been arguing and he told her that something went very wrong. 454 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 2: He wouldn't tell me what it was about, but she 455 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 2: does say that's something Chuck had told her in the 456 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 2: past made her fear the worst. 457 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 6: He would tell her that when he got mad, he 458 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 6: would turn into Chucky. 459 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 13: Chucky, you know the dollars the movies Stones that come alive, 460 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 13: It's the one that kills people. 461 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, he portrays himself to the outside world as a 462 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 6: very quiet, respectful person, but we really start realizing how 463 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 6: violent and dangerous he really is. 464 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: But it's not until they pulled us criminal records that 465 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 2: detectives learned the staggering truth. 466 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 3: Charles Harris had a very violent criminal history. 467 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 4: His problems extended beyond drugs. 468 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: He had killed before. 469 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more of this gripping episode of the 470 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: Fatal Attraction podcast. 471 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: Detectives in Davenport, Iowa, have just discovered that Charles Harris, 472 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 2: the boyfriend of murder victim Robin Young, as a long 473 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: criminal record. 474 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 4: In nineteen eighty six, Chicago police had charged Chuck with 475 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 4: killing his girlfriend. 476 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 3: She tried to end the relationship and Charles kept stalking her, 477 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 3: and then one night Charles climbed in a window and 478 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 3: he stabbed her to death. 479 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 8: Charles was convicted a voluntary manslaughter and starved a little 480 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 8: over three years before being released on grow. 481 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: Four years later, he was arrested again. 482 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 10: He had another very violent domestic assault in the Illinois part. 483 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 3: Of the Quad Cities nineteen ninety four. He's married, his 484 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 3: wife wants a divorce. She gets a protective order. He 485 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 3: continually violates the protective order, and then one night he 486 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: comes in the end he severely beats her. She spent 487 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: some time in the hospital. 488 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 12: It was bad enough that I think if somebody hadn't 489 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 12: gone her, she probably would have died. 490 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 3: He's charged with tempted murder. She's convicted. He gets a 491 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: sixteen year sentence on that charge. 492 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 2: Released after ten years, Chuck was soon in trouble again. 493 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 3: In two thousand and five, he is dating another woman. 494 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 3: That relationship goes badly, he breaks her arm. 495 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 6: He had a very very violent history, particularly when it 496 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 6: came to women, with every relationship they had where the 497 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 6: girlfriend wants to break it off. 498 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 11: On as soon as that happens, Charlesbury acts violently. 499 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 2: But while detectives believed Robin may be the latest victim 500 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: of Chuck's violence, they don't have a clear picture of 501 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: what unfolded until a woman named Charlene Tate comes forward. 502 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 11: Charlie is a mutual friend of Robin and Charles. 503 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 3: You said you have some information for us. What kind 504 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: of information? 505 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 2: It's just some things that Robin had said to me. 506 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 3: She was worried about Chuck. Robin told Charlene that Charles 507 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 3: was becoming very possessive, very jealous. He kept asking her 508 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 3: questions about money. I wanted to know how much money 509 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: she had. 510 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 5: My mom was constantly getting raised as at work. 511 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 7: She was such a good worker, so at one point 512 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 7: she was making more money than him. 513 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: According to Charlene, Robin was also afraid Chuck had started 514 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 2: using drugs again. 515 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 5: I'm not sure if he relapsed. 516 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 7: I do remember her saying that he was displaying some 517 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 7: behaviors that she hadn't seen from him before. 518 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 3: She was starting to see what. 519 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 12: Charles was and what he was about, and she realized, Hey, 520 00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 12: I'm a stronger woman now. 521 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 4: I don't need this guy. She works so hard. The 522 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 4: last thing she needed was Chuck driving her down. 523 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 3: Robin told Charlene that she was going to end the relationship. 524 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 3: Did she tell you what she was planning to do? 525 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: She mentioned something about a restrain in order. 526 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: Any woman that talks about getting a restraining order isn't 527 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 3: just because of verbal argument, It's because of something physical. 528 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 10: Charles Harris is a person whose way of solving problems 529 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 10: is through violence, certainly when it comes to women. 530 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: It's not enough for an arrest warrant, but detectives do 531 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: obtain a warrant to detain Charles Harris as a material witness. 532 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 10: A material witness warrant as a warrant for the apprehension 533 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 10: of somebody who cannot be served with a subpoena with 534 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 10: Charles Harris. Was one of the ask people to see 535 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 10: Robin alive, so we can compel them to come in 536 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 10: and we can ask questions. 537 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 2: But first detectives will need to find him and they 538 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: have a pretty good idea. 539 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 3: Weird a little. 540 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 10: There was no Charles Harris was from Chicago, and Robin 541 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 10: Young's bank card was being used in that area. 542 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 6: The day's following her disappearance. The bank are re used 543 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 6: twelve times. 544 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 12: I called a couple of the convenience stores that a 545 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 12: card was being used at to pull that surveillance tape. 546 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: And the video needs no doubt about who has Robin's 547 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 2: debit card. 548 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 6: That video showed a person using her ATM cards in Chicago. 549 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 3: You could clearly see that it was Charles Harris. 550 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more of this ripping episode of The 551 00:32:59,040 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: Fatal Attraction. 552 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 2: Detectives investigating Robin Young's murder have uncovered evidence that her boyfriend, 553 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 2: Chuck Harris, is likely the one who killed the fifty 554 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 2: year old nursing assistant. 555 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 5: Yeah my Mom's debut card. 556 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 3: He was using her debut card. 557 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 4: Detectives had surveillance video from a Chicago convenience store that 558 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 4: showed Chuck using the card. 559 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 3: He walks into the gas station, goes right to the 560 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: ATM take money out of her account. 561 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: In the week following Robin's murder, Chuck had used the 562 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: card at several locations. On the South side of Chicago. 563 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 6: So that bank card assisted us and not only proving 564 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 6: that he was using the card through surveillance videos, but 565 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 6: also helping us track down where he was at. 566 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: Three weeks after the murder, Chicago police him down. 567 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 3: They locate him on December second, driving in the city 568 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 3: of Chicago. The people takes off, leaves him on a pursuit. 569 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 2: Eventually more units arrived and managed to cut him off. 570 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 3: He abandons the car and leads him on a foot chase. 571 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 11: Charles takes off running. 572 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 5: That's when his luck truly ran out. 573 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 3: A US Marshall that's leaving his residence to go to 574 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 3: work turns and looks and sees Charles Harris running from 575 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 3: the police. 576 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 2: After a quick tackle by the off duty Marshall, police 577 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: take Chuck into custody. 578 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 12: He was in the Chicago Police departments lock up, So 579 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 12: we went down there. 580 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 3: He owes some people an explanation, Yeah, especially one little 581 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 3: ten year old girl. 582 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 2: Face with the reality of what he'd done to Robin 583 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: and her granddaughter. Chuck agrees to talk. 584 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 3: He looked completely defeated. His explanation was that Robin had 585 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 3: told him the relationship was over. The afternoon on the twelfth, 586 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 3: She told him to get out and that he went home. 587 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 2: But according to Chuck, Robin had showed up at an 588 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 2: apartment later that night. 589 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 8: Apparently that's where Robin went after she sent her granddaughter 590 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 8: to bed. 591 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 6: He said, as soon as she came over, they started 592 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 6: to argue, Oh. 593 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 3: We are that's all. 594 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 2: According to Chuck, argument that night had turned violet. 595 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 3: What happened? Excuse? 596 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 6: So Charles claimed that Robin hit him over the head 597 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 6: of the pipe. 598 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 3: What happened after she hit you? 599 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 2: It's a very similar story to Chuck's previous attack on 600 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 2: his ex wife. 601 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 12: Two situations are almost exactly the stand. There's an argument 602 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 12: that goes too far, hits her, Win claims. 603 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 3: It on the woman. 604 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 2: But no matter how much he spends the story, the 605 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: detectives consider it a confession. 606 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 4: They charged him with first degree murder. I believe he 607 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 4: couldn't handle the fact that Robin was breaking up. 608 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 2: With him, so he decided to lure Robin to his apartment. 609 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 3: I think what happened was when she tells him we're done, 610 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 3: Charles takes her debit card. That was his way of 611 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 3: setting the traps. She demands it back. He says, I'm 612 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 3: gonna give it to you, but you got to come 613 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 3: over here and get it. She hangs up the phone 614 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 3: and tells her granddaughter, I'll be right back. 615 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 2: I love you, but she'd never come back from Chuck's apartment. 616 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 11: He hit her over the head two or three times. 617 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 8: He then put Robin's body in the back of her car, 618 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 8: drove away from his place, and left her there. 619 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 3: Why he picks that location, I don't know how he 620 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 3: gets back to his apartment. He could have walked. 621 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 2: The next morning, he'd stopped off at Robin's apartment as 622 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 2: if nothing had happened. 623 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 4: It seemed that by pretending he'd just gotten off work 624 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 4: and taken Robin's granddaughter to school like usual, Chuck was 625 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 4: trying to set up an alibi. 626 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 3: Then he'd left town. 627 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 12: He fled the Chicago, where he can blend in and 628 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 12: feel safe. 629 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 2: Now though he's back in Iowa and facing a murder charge. 630 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 3: We were ready to go to trial. It was a 631 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 3: very good case, but a jury. 632 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,439 Speaker 2: We'll never hear it. On June second, two thousand and nine, 633 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 2: the day Chuck's trial is supposed to begin, the defense 634 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 2: and prosecution agreed to a plea deal. 635 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 6: The prosecuting attorney has to look at what is best 636 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 6: for the case and what's best for the family's best 637 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 6: for public safety, you. 638 00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 10: Have to consider a plea as a guarantee. 639 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 2: Under the terms of the plea, Charles Harris is sentenced 640 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 2: to forty five years in prison. 641 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 6: He'll be eighty four years old by the time he's 642 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 6: ultible for parole. 643 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 3: That's about as close to a life sentence that you 644 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 3: can get. 645 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 2: It isn't enough for Robin's donor. 646 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 5: She's never coming back. 647 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 7: So even with them catching he's in the prison so 648 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 7: many times, why don't even feel like that's punishment for him? 649 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 2: Well, there is some solace that at least he will 650 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 2: never get another chance of life, which is exactly what 651 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 2: he took from Robin. 652 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 12: So sad that somebody who had a rough life finally 653 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 12: got it back together and then this happens. 654 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 3: She was working, doing everything right and fell in with 655 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:47,479 Speaker 3: the wrong guy. 656 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 2: But even a ruthless killer can't diminish all that she overcame. 657 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 7: Her story always makes me just feel like, even when 658 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 7: I feel like giving up, don't because she never I 659 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 7: don't know anyboted. I was more proud of her than 660 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 7: I was. My mom was a great person. 661 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:18,760 Speaker 1: It's unfortunate that we are constantly surrounded by deceitful individuals 662 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,280 Speaker 1: who lie in wait each day. Every day we face 663 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: shocking accounts of their dishonesty and pure ruthlessness. Robin Young, 664 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: a mother, a grandmother, and a fighter who never gave up, 665 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: will forever be cherished in the hearts of her family 666 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: and friends. Coming up on the next episode of the 667 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: Fatal Attraction Podcast. 668 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 2: They were a loving couple living the American dream. 669 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 8: They came to America seeking stability, seeking success. 670 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 2: They really had to hustle. 671 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 5: And work hard. 672 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 3: They made the better life for themselves. 673 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 2: Until able crime destroyed everything they held Here. 674 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 3: She can hear her husband. He's screaming. 675 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: This is a quaint town in Georgia is thrown into 676 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: turmoil when a couple on the brink of greatness experiences 677 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: a horrific attack. Who would want to heard them? Their 678 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: loved ones are determined to find out what happened. Tune 679 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: in to the next episode of the Fatal Attraction Podcast. 680 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: We will see you in the next episode.