WEBVTT - 7-29-26: Is NCDOT Paying A Ransom Or A Bribe?

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<v Speaker 3>If you did guess.

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<v Speaker 2>What, you would know what I'm talking about tonight and

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<v Speaker 2>who our special guest is tonight. So the nc DOT,

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<v Speaker 2>which is under the guidance and leadership of Governor Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Stein or whomever happens to be governor at that particular time,

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<v Speaker 2>they are basically in charge of the NCDOT, and the

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<v Speaker 2>NCDOT would not do something, in my opinion, without the approval,

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<v Speaker 2>especially something major and astounding and by many aspects, by

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<v Speaker 2>many thoughts, asinine, without the approval set approval of Governor

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Stein.

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<v Speaker 3>So it has now come out.

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<v Speaker 2>That the NCDOT has offered I called a bribe, some

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<v Speaker 2>called a ransom three hundred million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>To the community.

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<v Speaker 2>They say will be impacted by the expansion of the

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<v Speaker 2>I seventy seven tolades. There are a lot of issues

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<v Speaker 2>with this, a lot of issues, and coming up in

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<v Speaker 2>about ten minutes from now, North Counta state Senator Vicky Sawyer,

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<v Speaker 2>who goes into her district covers Ardelle County and the

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<v Speaker 2>northern part of Mecklenberg County, Cornelius and Davidson. She has

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<v Speaker 2>been at the forefront of these I seventy seven expansions

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<v Speaker 2>the tolaids. She's going to be joining us to to

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<v Speaker 2>give us her thoughts on the on the whole NCDOT

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<v Speaker 2>offering three hundred million dollars. The first thing that came

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<v Speaker 2>into my mind when Mark Garrison and I were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about this earlier this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, wait a minute, this isn't supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be about money, because they already offered about seventy

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<v Speaker 2>five million dollars for parks and stuff like that. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this three hundred million dollars, I call it a ransom.

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<v Speaker 2>That the NCDOT is paying a ransom. And Governor Stein

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<v Speaker 2>has no problems with that being done because it's a

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<v Speaker 2>historically black neighborhood, not now, not now. It's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>a black neighborhood. Now it's it's white, it's Hispanic, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's black. Like it's very multi racial. And again, let's

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<v Speaker 2>not forget this. We're talking about twenty nine houses that

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<v Speaker 2>would be impacted.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Brad, but it's really the entire community. Stop.

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<v Speaker 2>It's twenty nine houses. Twenty nine houses, many of which

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<v Speaker 2>are not owned by the people that live there. The

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<v Speaker 2>people that live there rent, not all, but many rent

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<v Speaker 2>from companies and corporations that actually own the houses. Like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll give you three hundred million dollars and you can

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<v Speaker 2>build a park if you want.

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<v Speaker 3>You can build a park, and.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll give you stuff where you can build, like grocery

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<v Speaker 2>stores for a food desert. Okay, and as a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of fact, two grocery stores, one on.

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<v Speaker 3>The west side, one on West Boulevard and the other

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<v Speaker 3>one near Jenson C.

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<v Speaker 2>Smith University, a possible new recreation center on nations Ford Road,

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<v Speaker 2>and other things.

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<v Speaker 3>I call this a.

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<v Speaker 2>Ransom because the community, which many people associated with it,

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<v Speaker 2>has called a grifter their words, not mine. But to

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<v Speaker 2>be clear, I'm not talking about the lawyer. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the same point, this was about a historically black community, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were already being offered seventy five million dollars. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if the community is going to accept

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<v Speaker 2>this because it's three hundred million and they're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>and the ncduty is trying to buy the way out

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<v Speaker 2>of this, bribe them or ransom whichever way you want

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<v Speaker 2>to look at it. But here's my question, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is a very serious question that needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be selled, as told or asked. And I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 2>this as politely as I can, and it still may

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<v Speaker 2>rub people the wrong way, and I want it to

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<v Speaker 2>be known. I don't mean it in a bad way, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I just putting that out there. Seventy five million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't want to deal with that, It wasn't good

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<v Speaker 2>enough because it was going to impact a black community,

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<v Speaker 2>in black neighbors.

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<v Speaker 3>Three hundred million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that enough to, for lack of a better term,

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<v Speaker 2>sell your black heritage, Because if you accept it, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing. You no longer care about your neighbors

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<v Speaker 2>or the historical black community. If you if you relent

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<v Speaker 2>to this and go, well, you know what, three hundred million,

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<v Speaker 2>we're getting something out of it. You were getting something

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<v Speaker 2>out of it with seventy five million, But you kept

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<v Speaker 2>saying no because it's a historical black community, which, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, now is actually very multiracial, very multiracial. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not is the community back in the day was it

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<v Speaker 2>a black neighborhood?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it necessarily black neighborhood now? Not necessarily no? But

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<v Speaker 2>are you selling your black heritage? You're okay selling your

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<v Speaker 2>blackness for three hundred million dollars when seventy five million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars was enough. So what you're saying is if you

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<v Speaker 2>accept this, then that what you're saying is that you

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<v Speaker 2>have that you do not have a problem with selling

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<v Speaker 2>yourself because apparently if you accept this, that means everything's

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<v Speaker 2>got a price, and you're willing to sell your heritage,

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<v Speaker 2>sell your blackness, sell your community, sell your neighbors. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what it means for three hundred million, if you accept this,

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<v Speaker 2>because at that point it was never about morals.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just about money.

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<v Speaker 2>If you accept this, it was never about morals or

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<v Speaker 2>a grifter hanger on that's just trying to get a

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<v Speaker 2>dollar anywhere he can in the city of Charlotte. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's the question I have, and that's the very question

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm going to be asking North Kunta State Senator

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<v Speaker 2>Vicki Sawyer when she joins us, because, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>she's been at the forefront of all of this, proposing

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<v Speaker 2>the bill, the tax like everything or the bill and

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<v Speaker 2>getting things done, having to pay stuff back, all of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like she's been near the forefront at all of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Six point twenty one here on this Wednesday night of

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<v Speaker 2>breaking with Brad Jensen here on Charlie's News Talk one

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<v Speaker 2>of seven point nine FM. Okay, so by seventy seven

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<v Speaker 2>total lines. I explained some things to you, and I

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<v Speaker 2>am really really interested to hear what this person has

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<v Speaker 2>to say about all of this and the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>the NCDOT has offered basically a three hundred million dollar

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<v Speaker 2>bribe or is paying a three hundred million dollar ransom,

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<v Speaker 2>whichever way you want to look at it. So joining

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<v Speaker 2>us now here I'm breaking with Brad Jensen is North

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<v Speaker 2>Kinnta State Senator Vicki Sawyer.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, thank you for joining us tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>And second of all, just came out and said, look

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<v Speaker 2>if you let us build our toll lane expansion on

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<v Speaker 2>I seventy seven between Caro Win's Boulevard and uptown. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>give that whole community three hundred million dollars and you

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<v Speaker 2>can build parks and grocery stores and whatever. So when

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<v Speaker 2>you first heard about all of that, what was your

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<v Speaker 2>initial reaction?

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<v Speaker 4>Concern? Complete concern, because I know that the pressure is

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<v Speaker 4>on to get this project done or underway, and I

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<v Speaker 4>completely feel for those in charge who are just trying

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<v Speaker 4>to get that to happen. But what president are we

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<v Speaker 4>setting for other communities across the stage. Are they now

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<v Speaker 4>going to be able to hold the got in estate

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<v Speaker 4>hostage for personal or gain through redevelopment of property. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>that is just really setting a horrible precedent for very

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<v Speaker 4>precious resources that we don't quite frankly have enough to

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<v Speaker 4>build the roads that we already have promised to build.

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<v Speaker 4>Fross North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>Speak with North County State Senator Vicky Sawyer, who has

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<v Speaker 2>parts of Mecklenburg County and Irondale County.

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<v Speaker 3>In her district.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you think the NCDOT maybe did this on

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<v Speaker 2>their own or that there was outside influence from groups

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<v Speaker 2>or individuals, or do you think Josh Stein had something

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 4>With this great question? I think probably all of the above.

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<v Speaker 4>To be honest, there are the lobbyist class who has

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<v Speaker 4>been working very hard to get this project done. They're

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<v Speaker 4>in dot in the governor's office. I mean, this is again,

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<v Speaker 4>Charlotte is our biggest economic driver in North Carolina and

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<v Speaker 4>this is a much needed project, so it has got

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of attention. So I could imagine all of

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<v Speaker 4>the above probably had influence on this decision.

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<v Speaker 2>North Kunta State Senator Vicky Sawyer joins us here on

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<v Speaker 2>breaking with brat Jensen. So let's say the community actually

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<v Speaker 2>accepts this offer of three hundred million dollars. I'll call

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<v Speaker 2>it a bribe. They call it an offer, but I'll

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<v Speaker 2>call it a bribe. How do you think this will

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<v Speaker 2>actually come across if they actually accept this offer.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of sad that a person or a grouse

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<v Speaker 4>morality is for sale. And I guess now they have

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<v Speaker 4>put the price on their morality, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>that that's a good look for them, because now it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to undercut their value system and their virtue signaling

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<v Speaker 4>that they are really there to help folks that have

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<v Speaker 4>been disadvantaged in the past, but they'll help them until

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<v Speaker 4>they get paid. That's a really bad look.

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<v Speaker 2>Speak with North kinda State Senator Vicki Sawyer. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you know this off the top of your head,

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<v Speaker 2>but do you know how many requests are put in

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<v Speaker 2>for road repair or road expansion, either from a dollar

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<v Speaker 2>figure side or whatever, from across the state.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have any idea about that?

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit, the DT came out and there are

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and forty four billion dollars worth of requests

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<v Speaker 4>for new road construction across North Carolina in the next

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<v Speaker 4>ten years. Now we have I have a state budget

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<v Speaker 4>of around eight to nine billion dollars annually, so you

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<v Speaker 4>can see that we do not have enough money in

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<v Speaker 4>transportation to honor the commitments that we already have on

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<v Speaker 4>the books, much less expanding current commitments by three hundred

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<v Speaker 4>million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this is true or not, so

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you can clear something up for me. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>told for a long long time that if they pull

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<v Speaker 2>out of the I seventy seven expansion and it does

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<v Speaker 2>not go through, that the next time that they want

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<v Speaker 2>to do the expansion they actually go back to the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of the list that you are just describing, and

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<v Speaker 2>they have to start from square one and wait their turn.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 4>It can be accurate? Now again, this ten year construction

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<v Speaker 4>plan that we call the Step that Governor McCrory helped

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<v Speaker 4>shephard during his time in office, is a fluid document.

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<v Speaker 4>So that means every two years, the DOT selects the

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<v Speaker 4>committee and that committee sets standards for those projects to

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<v Speaker 4>be considered. So I can say for now that is accurate,

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<v Speaker 4>but you never know two years for now what that

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<v Speaker 4>those standards could have been changed at that time. So

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<v Speaker 4>it is a fluid optumy. So for now it goes

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<v Speaker 4>to the back of the line.

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<v Speaker 2>North Khana State Senator Vicky Sawyer here, I'm breaking with

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<v Speaker 2>Brett Jensen. So is there anything that you want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that I didn't ask you about? Is there

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<v Speaker 2>anything going on up in Raleigh right now? Is there

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<v Speaker 2>anything happening that you want to discuss that I didn't mention?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm on the road back now from Raleigh, but

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<v Speaker 4>the answer is no. There's all there's always some things

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<v Speaker 4>going on in Raleigh and but there's nothing currently that

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<v Speaker 4>I can report on.

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<v Speaker 3>North Kina State Senator Vicky Sawyer.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything you'd like to say to the listeners

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<v Speaker 2>and your constituents and the people of Mecklenboro.

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<v Speaker 3>County right now?

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<v Speaker 4>No, just want to thank you for listening to the

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<v Speaker 4>Brett Jenson. So you do an amazing job with contacting

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<v Speaker 4>and really working with electives and to get the answer

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<v Speaker 4>to the people, and I enjoy being a listener.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that was clearly unexpected, and now I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I have to send you flowers or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, again to nine because I had someone who listened

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<v Speaker 4>to our interview about the seventy seven tolls and he

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<v Speaker 4>complimented and said he listened to the show and that

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<v Speaker 4>was made a lot of sense after we listened. So

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<v Speaker 4>I am very grateful for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I really really do appreciate the kind words. That's

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<v Speaker 2>extremely nice of you. So North Kulina State Senator Vicky Sawyer,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for joining us tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>I really mean it.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>All right there she goes North Kountain State Senator Vicky Sawyer,

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<v Speaker 2>and again her districts are Idoll County and then the

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<v Speaker 2>northern part of Mecklenberg County, which is Cornelius and Davidson

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the I seventy seven tollings selling your morals

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what I talked about last segment. And I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think about this. When she said it was like a

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<v Speaker 2>light bulb went off. Oh well, now you're given the

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<v Speaker 2>blueprints for every town across all over North Carolina to

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<v Speaker 2>try and.

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<v Speaker 3>Ransom.

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<v Speaker 2>We're trying to get more money, negotiate to get more money.

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<v Speaker 2>How to hold the NCDOT hostage. Because if they're doing

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<v Speaker 2>it for Charlotte, if you're in Rocky Mount, or you're

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<v Speaker 2>in Blowing Rock, or you're in Brunswick wherever Brunswick County,

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<v Speaker 2>it does not matter. Now anywhere can say no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we want more money. You gave it to Charlotte, why

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<v Speaker 2>not give it to us. Are you playing favorites, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>based on race, you're playing favorites based on location. Like, now,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what's happening. That's what's happening. So again, we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>if that community sells their black heritage or not. Because

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<v Speaker 2>it's seventy five million dollars, they were steadfast against it,

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred million dollars. We'll see what happens in a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of grocery stores a park.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Running back to breaking mcbrett Jensen here on the Wednesday

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<v Speaker 2>night Live and Living Colors, we go up until seven

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock and then TJ and the Bear Richie takes over

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<v Speaker 2>from seven to night.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still trying to figure out who the bear is

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<v Speaker 3>for TJ. Is it Lonnie? Is it Travers? I'm what

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<v Speaker 3>I said, Why not, man, I'm cuddly. I just I

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<v Speaker 3>don't I'm just trying to figure this out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, you know, I don't want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>cast dispersions on Travers or you or anyone else.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't know who his bear is. I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>the bear, and you know he squeeze up to me

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<v Speaker 3>at night. You know, you know the.

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<v Speaker 2>Bear has to wear a diaper when he walks around

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<v Speaker 2>so he don't crap everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it depends, it depends. That's funny. It's actually funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh pretty good, Lonnie. Nice job.

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<v Speaker 2>MLS All Star Game is tonight. Show a hands to

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<v Speaker 2>the room of everyone that's gonna watch it. Yeah, that'd

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<v Speaker 2>be zero, just just wondering. There's only three of us.

0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.080
<v Speaker 2>To be fair, there's only three of us in this room.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was just curious how many people were gonna

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<v Speaker 2>watch that MLSTIC. Somebody said that they had like a

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<v Speaker 2>skills competition last night. I did not even know that

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<v Speaker 2>until someone just texted me. I didn't even know that.

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<v Speaker 2>And so today's my brother's birthday. Yeah, I forgot about

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<v Speaker 2>that until about five o'clock. I didn't try to call

0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:23.359
<v Speaker 2>him on the way to the station, and he didn't answer,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I texted him, so, hey, he's up in

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<v Speaker 2>the Philadelphia area.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you live in Philadelphia. You don't deserve to

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<v Speaker 3>be told happy birthday in Philadelphia is a rat hole,

0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:35.960
<v Speaker 3>Like it really is a rat hole.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they got Lebron, but yeah, he has no idea

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<v Speaker 2>what's about to hit him when they start struggling.

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<v Speaker 3>He has no clue what those fans.

0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.359
<v Speaker 2>There's a reason why they had a jail underneath the

0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:50.639
<v Speaker 2>baseball and football stadium, I mean, and an actual magistrate

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<v Speaker 2>and a judge down there, Like there's there's a reason

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<v Speaker 2>it's Philadelphia. So's the reason why they call it Filthiadelphia.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a rat hole anyway, one of my three least

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<v Speaker 2>favorite cities in America, the other two being Atlanta and Orlando.

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<v Speaker 2>Just for the record, not that anyone cares, but still

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<v Speaker 2>did not know that the MLS All Star Game is tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Was not a I mean I did know that, but

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<v Speaker 2>I did not know they had the skills competition last night.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know it was a two day event.

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<v Speaker 2>But apparently it is. So thanks for the enlightenment. I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate that. Also want to say, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>next segment, I'll have like actual news.

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<v Speaker 3>But the also want to say this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little salty right now, a little upset, perturbed,

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<v Speaker 2>you might say, disgruntled. I did not win the seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred plus million dollar Mega Millions lottery last night. That

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<v Speaker 2>happened was some clown in Florida who clearly is going

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<v Speaker 2>to use it to buy all the gene shorts he

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<v Speaker 2>can and all the tank tops, because that's what they

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<v Speaker 2>wear in Florida. Gene shorts and tank tops, white black, Hispanic.

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<v Speaker 2>It does not matter. That is the state official wardrobe,

0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:14.399
<v Speaker 2>jeene shorts, jorts and tank top. And but yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>if it's somebody from Florida, like there's the whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>that like a man from Florida, a man from Florida,

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you just type in a man from Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>On Google, there's a million things that pop up about

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<v Speaker 2>all the stupid. So there was a man from Florida

0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.119
<v Speaker 2>that tried to wrestle an alligator and lost a foot.

0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.280
<v Speaker 2>There was a man from Florida that thought it would

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<v Speaker 2>he could dive into a three foot pool. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a man from Florida like whatever, Right, there's all kinds

0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:42.879
<v Speaker 2>of stuff. So man from Florida wins three hundred million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Man from Florida blows it in three years. I can

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<v Speaker 2>see the headlines now. It's Florida love the state. People

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<v Speaker 2>do love some, Tampa do love some. I love some,

0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:06.320
<v Speaker 2>Miami Love, Palm Beach Love, Palm Beach love, Miami, Boca, Tampa, Clearwater, Bradenton,

0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:12.879
<v Speaker 2>like that whole area a lot. Jacksonville No Okalla, no Orlando, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Not Daytona. It's okay for two days, then you got

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<v Speaker 3>to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Out, sort of like Vegas, Like you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>stay more than two or three days in Vegas and

0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.080
<v Speaker 2>you got to get out. That's sort of the way.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty much the way Daytona is. Pensacola it's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Talla has he it's highly It's not a good city

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<v Speaker 2>except for Florida State, except for Florida State football games,

0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Florida State weekends where they have a home football game.

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<v Speaker 3>Tallahassee's pretty cool. Outside of that, it's a rat hole.

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<v Speaker 3>Desm Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, Pensacola, You're, okay, a nicer version of Myrtle Beach.

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<v Speaker 2>So talking to someone who has been all over this

0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:04.000
<v Speaker 2>damn country like a million times because of work, because

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<v Speaker 2>of work when I was traveling all the time, so

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<v Speaker 2>I know all about Florida. I think I've only been

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<v Speaker 2>to Florida about seventy five times, all over that damn state,

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<v Speaker 2>from Miami all the way up to the very northeast

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<v Speaker 2>corner Jacksonville to the far left corner Pensacola, down towards

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<v Speaker 2>again Tallahassee and Sarasota and Bradenton and Clearwater in Saint

0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:31.959
<v Speaker 2>Pete Fort Myers.

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<v Speaker 3>Been all down in there, know it all. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 3>to breaking with Brett Jackson here on this Wednesday night.

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<v Speaker 3>Go up to seven o'clock. TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Richie comes up from seven to nine. Okay, so a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit ago, like not that long.

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<v Speaker 3>It does.

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<v Speaker 2>Matter of fact, I'll give you the exact time when

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<v Speaker 2>this took place, got a got a message from CMPD

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<v Speaker 2>and this came out at six', ten so not even

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<v Speaker 2>an hour, ago so forty minutes ago this came. OUT

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<v Speaker 2>cmpd officer arrested and charged with the illegal access of

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<v Speaker 2>a government. Computer Meckelburray Police Department Internal Affairs division is

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<v Speaker 2>conducting an internal investigation regarding the arrest OF Cmpd Officer Seth.

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<v Speaker 2>Elliott On june, eighteenth twenty twenty, six The State bureau

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<v Speaker 2>Of investigation informed the INFORMED cmpd that during an unrelated,

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<v Speaker 2>INVESTIGATION sbi developed, information including On, Tuesday june, Sixteenth Officer

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<v Speaker 2>elliott had improperly accessed THE flock system and THE cj

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<v Speaker 2>leads once for non law enforcement. Purposes On, Monday june twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>second twenty twenty, Six Officer elliott was placed on paid

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<v Speaker 2>administrative assignment and his equipment and access to the systems

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<v Speaker 2>with criminal intelligence information was revoked pending the outcome of

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<v Speaker 2>THE sbi. Investigation On july twenty, Ninth Officer elliott was

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<v Speaker 2>arrested by THE sbi on a charge of illegally accessing

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 2>a government, computer A class one. Misdemeanor he was placed

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<v Speaker 2>on administrative leave pending the outcome of the internal. Investigation

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<v Speaker 2>he was hired In february of twenty twenty four and

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<v Speaker 2>was currently assigned to The University. DIVISION cmpd does not

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<v Speaker 2>own or operate any of The flock camera. Devices, HOWEVER

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:40.200
<v Speaker 2>cmpd does have a memorandum of understanding AND. MoU we've

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<v Speaker 2>heard a lot About MoU's With iran WITH flock that

0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 2>allows officers to ACCESS flock devices of other agencies and

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<v Speaker 2>entities at no. Charge and then there's a statement from

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<v Speaker 2>A Stella Patterson and from WHAT i understand OR i

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<v Speaker 2>think What i've seen so far briefly is that he

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:06.360
<v Speaker 2>was basically looking up the registration of, someone like saw

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:08.159
<v Speaker 2>the license plate or, whatever and was maybe looking up

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<v Speaker 2>the registration for. SOMEONE i don't, know if it was a,

0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 2>FEMALE i don't, know if it was a, MALE i don't.

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<v Speaker 2>KNOW i don't know the, situation BUT i think that's

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<v Speaker 2>WHAT i saw during a commercial. Break so but, again

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:24.439
<v Speaker 2>this is all relatively brand. New but this is the

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<v Speaker 2>problem of all this going on is that it's a

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<v Speaker 2>it's A flock system and, cameras and we know like

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<v Speaker 2>AND i know one has nothing to do with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Other per, se what we're getting ready to get cameras at.

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:45.639
<v Speaker 2>INTERSECTIONS i believe it's ten cameras that we're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get and we had them twenty years, ago and LIKE i,

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<v Speaker 2>SAID i even got a ticket on one one time

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<v Speaker 2>because WHAT i thought was a yellow, light they said

0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 2>was a red, light and yours truly got a ticket

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 2>and this Was, god, yeah every better twenty years. Ago

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<v Speaker 2>so they're going to be at, intersections some of the busiest,

0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 2>intersections these traffic, lights these traffic cameras. Now AND i

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:13.760
<v Speaker 2>keep saying this because a lot of people are unaware of.

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 2>This that the fact that when you how do you

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 2>know which intersection has the cameras, well they have to

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 2>put up a sign three hundred yards prior to the,

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.879
<v Speaker 2>intersection so nearly a quarter of a mile telling you

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 2>that a camera is at the. Intersection, now it will

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:42.120
<v Speaker 2>only be in one, area and it will maybe tell

0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:47.119
<v Speaker 2>you who ran red, lights who did, This that's probably

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:50.400
<v Speaker 2>what they're going to be. Doing so or if they

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:53.159
<v Speaker 2>see a wreck at an, intersection who was at fault

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:56.560
<v Speaker 2>if they can see, that but they will tell you

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 2>three hundred yards prior to the intersection that there is

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<v Speaker 2>a camera at the. Intersection and then it's not just

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:07.680
<v Speaker 2>going to stay there in. Perpetuity it's going to be dancing,

0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 2>around moving around.

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<v Speaker 3>From location to location to.

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Location and then they mad and depending on how these

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.679
<v Speaker 2>go with these, ten if they see a dramatic drop

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 2>in accidents or people running red lights or, whatever they

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 2>see a dramatic, drop then don't be surprised if they

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:28.159
<v Speaker 2>add ten more cameras to other, intersections if there's an actual.

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Improvement so that's what's going on right. Now like that's

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 2>the thing with cameras and. Cameras we all have one

0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:45.919
<v Speaker 2>in our, hands Right we all have a camera in our.

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Hands go to any sporting, event go to any, concert

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 2>show up to any event where there as a police

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:56.399
<v Speaker 2>something's going on with the police, department everyone takes out their.

0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Cameras a, fire everyone takes out their cameras no matter the,

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 2>event takes out their, phone it starts filming. It we

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:08.160
<v Speaker 2>all ALMOST i say we. All but people who have

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 2>houses or town, homes they have ring doorbell, CAMERAS, cpi

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 2>whatever it, is AD, t whatever it, is they have

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:23.959
<v Speaker 2>it on their front. Doors we are now a society of.

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Cameras it used to be like even in the mid two.

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Thousands you, know, yeah you had your crappy digital or

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 2>your flip phone, camera Your motorola flip phone camera with

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:40.120
<v Speaker 2>like one meg.

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 3>But the.

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Uh but, then but we would carry around those little

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 2>yellow insta cameras From. Kodak you can just fit it

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 2>in your pocket it's the size of a, wallet or

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 2>you put it in your. Purse so you always had

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<v Speaker 2>a little, camera disposable camera on hand and you'd go from.

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<v Speaker 2>There but we are now a society of, cameras and people, say,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my privacy and this and that and businesses shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have cameras AND. Cctv, dude your privacy left about fifteen years, ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Like right around twenty, eleven you, know.

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<v Speaker 2>Blackberries were gone and phones started getting better with their

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<v Speaker 2>cameras and.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything else and. Zooming you don't have.

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<v Speaker 2>Primacy everything you sign up for sign everyone has access.

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<v Speaker 2>To now we've heard about all the things about companies

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<v Speaker 2>selling off information to third party.

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<v Speaker 3>Companies you don't have privacy.

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<v Speaker 2>Anymore, now that doesn't mean that officers can go and

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<v Speaker 2>access things illegally for non law enforcement, purposes which allegedly happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Here so this IS i fully expect this to be

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<v Speaker 2>a more common thing as this, continues and there's more

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<v Speaker 2>and more cameras on every corner as we go. Forward All,

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<v Speaker 2>right everyone that's going to do it for us, tonight

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<v Speaker 2>my name Is Brett. Jensen coming up next IS.

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<v Speaker 3>Tj.

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<v Speaker 2>Ritchie he'll take up until nine o'clock. Tonight my name

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<v Speaker 2>Is Brett. Jensen you've been listening To breaking With Brett.

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<v Speaker 3>Jenson