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Speaker 6: Here it is another installment of Beyond the Bricks and

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Speaker 6: It is our pleasure once again to join you to

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Speaker 6: Indianapolis Motor Speedway and Mike Thompson is for those of

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Speaker 6: you who are new to the program. A historian from

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Speaker 6: an audio standpoint, from a variety of standpoints, but certainly

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Speaker 6: in terms of the history of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway

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Speaker 6: as told through an audio variation. Mike has a library

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Speaker 6: that is like, as a matter of fact, he lives

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Speaker 6: it is always fun once again to resume and talk

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Speaker 7: Man, my house gets bigger every time we do this show.

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Speaker 7: They're not paying me that much, buddy, but yeah, it's

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Speaker 7: and how much you know they enjoy listening to you, Jake.

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Speaker 6: So it's a lot of fun for us, and a

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Speaker 6: There are and I realized that people can sit here

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Speaker 7: Yeah, when it's tough to talk about the fact that

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Speaker 2: Just a great guy. And we've got a really.

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Speaker 6: Here is Ron mcqueeney. I'm becoming the chief photographer of

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Speaker 8: My boss, Charlene Ellis, decided she wanted to go to

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Speaker 8: She says, no, that doesn't bother me. So I went

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Speaker 6: Ron mcqueeney had began his work at the Indianapolis Motor

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and we got that SoundBite from from Sean, and

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Speaker 7: let us use it. And he's got four part series

437
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 7: with Ron talking about not only his career but some

438
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 7: of his memorabilia and things like that. So make sure

439
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 7: you go to Voices of Racing dot com and check

440
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 7: out his interviews with Ron and other folks from the

441
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 7: racing world.

442
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 2: So I think you really enjoy it.

443
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 6: It's not often during the racing season. And Ron mcqueeney,

444
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 6: by the way, and as should be the goal for

445
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 6: all of us. His certainly, the footprint, the fingerprints, the

446
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 6: ways that he touched the Indianapolis Motor Speedway will be

447
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 6: his legacy, will be the work that he do. We'll

448
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 6: have an impact on the speedway for many, many years

449
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 6: to come. So god speed certainly to Ron mcqueeney and

450
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 6: condolences to his friends and family. It's not often during

451
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 6: the racing season that we can sneak in a little

452
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 6: vacation time, but I did exactly that, And Mike, if

453
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 6: you don't mind me saying so, it seemed as though,

454
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 6: and I appreciate this, you actually took some interest in

455
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 6: the trip that I took very.

456
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 7: Much, so I wanted to hear a little bit about

457
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 7: this trip, and so I built the surest of the

458
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,719
Speaker 7: show around your trip, and so I'm excited to hear

459
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 7: about this all.

460
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 6: Right, And that is I went over across the pond,

461
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 6: and I did so to see a band and a

462
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 6: band that is very, very very beloved in the country

463
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 6: of England. It's not Mike's favorite band, but they're close

464
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 6: to them, although that's a subject of debate in the

465
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 6: United Kingdom. We'll talk about going over to see Oasis

466
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 6: and how that plays into the history of the Indianapolis

467
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 6: Motor Speedway. We'll talk about all of that when we

468
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Speaker 6: return to be on the bricks.

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Speaker 9: Lais.

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478
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Speaker 6: the schedule of things that are gonna be taking place

479
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Speaker 6: coming up this weekend at The Indianapolis Motor speedway will

480
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 6: begin by talking about what's going to take. Place On,

481
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 6: saturday eleven o'clock in the, morning the gates will, open

482
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 6: and then at one pm it is qualifying for The

483
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 6: expinity cars at The Indianapolis Motor. Speedway at two thirty

484
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 6: five it is qualifying for The cup. Cars that will

485
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 6: take place until three thirty and then at four point

486
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 6: thirty it is The Pins oil two point fifty taking,

487
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Speaker 6: place followed it By sunday at two o'clock it will

488
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Speaker 6: be the running of The brickyard four hundred at The

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Speaker 6: Indianapolis Motor.

490
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Speaker 5: Speedway this is beyond the bricks brought to you By

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Speaker 5: Quality Supply Intol think outside the box store on ninety

492
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Speaker 5: three to five and one oh seven five the.

493
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Speaker 6: Fan this is what it sounded like Seeing oasis live

494
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 6: At Heaton park In, Manchester, england WHICH i had the

495
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 6: pleasure of. Doing you got to turn that up a

496
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 6: little bit, here. Lad you don't look back at anger about. Anything,

497
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 6: really there's nothing to be gained by. That let me tell, You,

498
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 6: mike how it came to be THAT i went to

499
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 6: go See. Oasis and for those that are, Unfamiliar oasis

500
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 6: is A british band that had their peak certainly and

501
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 6: their breakthrough in the early to mid, nineties and at

502
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 6: the time that they came, about they were very controversial

503
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 6: because they had famously or infamously In england said that

504
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 6: they would be bigger than The, beatles And liam And

505
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 6: Noah gallagher two brothers that have a volatile, relationship and,

506
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 6: shortly basically once they hit their zenith in, popularity probably

507
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 6: from ninety five to two, Thousand i'll say it in,

508
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 6: there their relationship was on, again off again and it was,

509
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 6: always you, know, inconsistent and, ultimately sixteen years ago they

510
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 6: broke up and said that's, It we're not performing together.

511
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 6: Anymore for me, PERSONALLY i did WHAT i call a

512
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 6: deep dive on the band after that. Fact so WHEN

513
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 6: i really started listening To oasis a lot and learning

514
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 6: about them and em AND i obviously knew of them

515
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 6: and their peak, popularity BUT i started listening to them

516
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 6: more and listening to the, words and it started just

517
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 6: becoming a reflective thing to me on the time period

518
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 6: in which they were so, big which was a great

519
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 6: period of my, life because the mid twenties are fun

520
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 6: for anybody, Really and THEN i, realized, gosh what a,

521
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 6: shame BECAUSE i really really like this band, now but

522
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 6: they no longer are playing. Together the same can be

523
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 6: said of Another british band THAT i really, like Called The,

524
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 6: verve whose lead singer is a guy by the name

525
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 6: Of Richard. Ashcroft oasis announced about a year ago that

526
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 6: they would be in fact reuniting and that they would

527
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 6: be playing fourteen shows in The United kingdom before coming

528
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 6: over to The United. States the third and fourth of

529
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 6: those shows took place recently In, manchester and my cousin

530
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 6: AND i went over to go see. THEM i saw

531
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 6: them on back to back nights on A friday And

532
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 6: saturday At Heaton, park which is essentially the central park Of, Manchester,

533
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 6: England manchester being their. Hometown, MIKE i will simply say this,

534
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 6: SPORTS i think in The indianapolis five hundred and The

535
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 6: Indianapolis Motor. Speedway the reason that we go back to

536
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 6: it every, year the reason we talk about, it the

537
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,719
Speaker 6: reason we listen to audio of old races and, clips

538
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 6: is because sports allows us to have a spontaneous bliss

539
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 6: amongst the masses and amongst. Strangers it bonds people, together

540
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 6: even if you are from totally different backgrounds or totally

541
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 6: different neighborhoods or places of. Employment if you root for

542
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 6: the same team as the guy or gal next to

543
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 6: you and a big shot is, made then you have

544
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 6: a connection with that person and with other. Humans music

545
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 6: does the same. Thing and those two concerts to be

546
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 6: there with they said eighty, THOUSAND i would say it

547
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 6: was probably closer to one hundred thousand on each, night

548
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 6: and have people from all areas of the globe there

549
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 6: to see this band and enjoying the same spontaneous, Bliss

550
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 6: and before you know, it you are singing along with

551
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 6: people you've never met, Before you're high fiving guys you've

552
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 6: never seen, before you are arm in arm with people

553
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 6: swaying back and. Forth it truly was a magical weekend

554
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 6: and it was an awesome. Event and it's the kind

555
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 6: of thing THAT i hope that everybody can find the

556
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 6: same kind of spontaneous joy and whatever leisure it is

557
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 6: that they find within their hobbies and their.

558
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: Habits, OH i couldn't agree. MORE i think that's.

559
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 7: Right AND i think what you undersold a little bit,

560
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 7: though is the fact of how much venom there was

561
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 7: between The gallagher. BROTHERS i, mean these guys couldn't stand

562
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 7: each other for over a, decade and the fact that

563
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 7: they got back together to do a. CONCERT i mean

564
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 7: that the only thing that would be news is IF

565
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 7: i walked back into the facility in the. INFIELD i,

566
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 7: mean that's how much contempt there was. There, SO i,

567
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 7: mean this was amazing the fact that The gallagher brothers

568
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 7: got back, together and you're right to have these kind

569
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 7: of communal, activities AND i can't imagine how cool it

570
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 7: would have been to be there with all those, folks

571
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 7: especially in their. HOMETOWN i, mean that has had to

572
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 7: have been absolutely amazing because they're just they're Just they're

573
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 7: one of those bands that you, know, Again Don't Look

574
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 7: back In anger is one of my ten favorite songs

575
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 7: of all, time AND i can't imagine what that would

576
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 7: have been like to hear that, song you.

577
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 6: Know and for that, Matter Richard ashcroft was the opening

578
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 6: act and he Did Bittersweet, symphony which is the verb's

579
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 6: biggest Hit Lucky man In. Sonnet so it was it

580
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 6: was a special evening for. Certain one of the things

581
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 6: that hit me in being, there even though there were

582
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 6: people from all over the, WORLD a lot of the

583
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 6: people THAT i talked to and enjoyed the show with

584
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 6: were From, manchester AND i think they were very proud

585
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 6: and hospitable about having people coming from so far away

586
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 6: to enjoy one of their native products and enjoy it

587
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 6: in their. City that's what allowed, Me, mike to really

588
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 6: grasp what it's like for people that come To, indianapolis

589
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 6: to go to The indianapolis five hundred and have an

590
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 6: appreciation for something that, say you AND i just consider our,

591
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 6: backyard and yet people from all over the world come

592
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 6: to enjoy. It and that CONNECTION i could relate to.

593
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 6: IT i could relate to how those people felt and

594
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 6: what it.

595
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 7: Meant, YEAH i, mean it's just one of those things

596
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 7: THAT i think music touches people in such an interesting.

597
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 7: Way and the, Speedway you're, RIGHT i think that's the same.

598
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 7: Thing the speedway touches people in a, way and it's

599
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 7: one of those things it's almost impossible to, describe, Right

600
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 7: it's hard to explain that to somebody who hasn't been

601
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 7: to The.

602
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: Speedway and it.

603
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 7: Also you, know, people it's hard for me to relate

604
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 7: at times to people who don't when music doesn't touch,

605
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 7: them just because you, KNOW i, mean music can overwhelm

606
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 7: me at, times and the same thing when the cars

607
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 7: come down for the start of the five. Hundred if

608
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 7: that doesn't get you, GOING i don't. KNOW i don't

609
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 7: know what that says about people who doesn't it doesn't

610
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 7: do something for. Them BUT i think you're one hundred percent.

611
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 7: RIGHT i, mean there's definitely a similarity.

612
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 6: There now similarities As i've, mentioned between and and that.

613
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 6: Weekend by the way THAT i was there was during

614
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 6: the two Step iowa race for The IndyCar. Series when

615
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 6: the schedule came out That IndyCar was going to be

616
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 6: When oasis WAS i, simply you, know said, Hey i'm

617
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 6: going to essentially take a, vacation you, know a couple days,

618
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 6: vacation And Chris, pollock the general manager of the radio

619
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 6: network said totally. Understand and so that's how that came

620
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 6: to be THAT i was not there for The iowa.

621
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 6: Race but it was interesting coming back from the concert

622
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 6: On friday and watching The iowa race For IndyCar On

623
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 6: Sky network which was airing it In Great, britain and

624
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 6: then On saturday or excuse me, sorry The saturday night.

625
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 6: RACE i did, that and then On, sunday When IndyCar

626
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 6: was racing In. IOWA i was actually on the flight

627
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 6: back home and was able Via Wi fi to listen

628
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 6: To Mark, James Michael young and the rest of the

629
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 6: group calling the race on The IndyCar Radio, network which

630
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 6: was very.

631
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 7: Cool so but my question is, THIS i, mean you

632
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 7: you have a pretty, good pretty good boss there With Chris,

633
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 7: pollack WHO i also, know AND i Like chris a.

634
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 7: Lot the fact that you And Nick yeoman were off

635
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 7: on the same weekend and not there In, IOWA i,

636
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 7: MEAN i was like that that was pretty surprising to me,

637
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 7: BECAUSE i, mean you guys are two of the most

638
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 7: important people on the on the, network and to have

639
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 7: both you And nick not, THERE i WAS i was

640
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 7: a little surprised that you could both be. OFF i,

641
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 7: mean it's one thing to have one of your key guys,

642
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 7: off but to have both your key guys to your

643
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 7: key guys, OFF i was a little surprised that you

644
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 7: were both not there that.

645
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 6: WEEK i think it shows the depth of the guys

646
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 6: that we you, know that we all work, with and

647
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 6: the people with men and women that work at the radio,

648
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 6: network and also the. Understanding nick had an opportunity to

649
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 6: call a race In sonoma FOR, prn which works with

650
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 6: The IndyCar network for the brickyard coming. Up so the

651
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 6: marriage and the confluence of those two particular groups the

652
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 6: reason Why nick was not there AND i was not.

653
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 6: There and so then you, Know alex wolf comes, over

654
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 6: and you know there's a number of The Drake yorke

655
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 6: and others that get involved so well that.

656
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 7: You have a Great, no you have a great bench

657
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 7: if you, WILL i Mean Joel sebastianelli and all these

658
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 7: other folks that you have come, In Alex, Wolfe like you,

659
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 7: Said Ryan, marine it's a it's a talented group of

660
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 7: folks that you, guys that you guys work.

661
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 6: With it was a great, weekend no question about.

662
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: It.

663
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 6: Now the reason why we brought it up is because

664
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 6: we talked about confluence and you know the similarities Of

665
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 6: oasis and The. Beatles The beatles had a trip to

666
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 6: The Indianapolis Motor speedway and we've mentioned it before but

667
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 6: not really, done AS i, said a deep dive on.

668
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 6: It so guess what that's exactly what we'll do next

669
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 6: when we return To beyond The. Bricks this is beyond the.

670
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Speaker 5: Bricks you by quality supply in tool think outside the

671
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 5: box store on ninety three five and one oh seven

672
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 5: five the, Fans Jake, Querry.

673
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 6: Mike thompson inside THE bet three sixty five race Command.

674
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 6: Center here quality supply a tool helping bring you beyond the,

675
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 6: Bricks land and coons putting it all together for us

676
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 6: talking about The beatles and their trip in nineteen sixty

677
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 6: four to The Indianapolis Motor, speedway we've played that up

678
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 6: a little bit by telling you about my trip to

679
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 6: go See. Oasis but The beatles came to our fabulous

680
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 6: facility back in nineteen sixty, four and there was not

681
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 6: necessarily always the plan that they would stay at sixteenth In,

682
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,239
Speaker 6: georgetown but that's in fact where they would lay their

683
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 6: heads while playing at The Indiana Fairgrounds. Coliseum Speedway Historian

684
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 6: Emeritus Donald davidson on why The beatles stayed at The

685
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 6: Indianapolis Motor.

686
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: Speedway apparently the groups regularly stayed at The Essex house

687
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: downtown and for whatever, reason and in nineteen sixty, four

688
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: basically what you had was the big, hotels the big

689
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: old established hotels downtown and then the motels on. Forty

690
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: but you, know there was no four to sixty five.

691
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: YET i think that was just starting to be, built

692
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: and so really there wasn't anywhere else to go except

693
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: if you went to the downtown. Area well there was

694
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: The Holiday, inn or AS i would call, it The

695
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: Holiday in across the, street and then The Speedway motel

696
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: had opened In march or is Approximately easter of nineteen sixty,

697
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,959
Speaker 1: Three so that's where they decided that The beatles could

698
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: go because the general crowd wouldn't figure it.

699
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 6: Out Chuck gunderson is an author that covers The, beatles

700
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 6: and he also gives his version of the decision to

701
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 6: stay at The Indianapolis Motor speedway for The fab.

702
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 9: Four had The beatles toured to the social media age

703
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 9: and The facebook And twitter, AGE i mean we would

704
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 9: know exactly where they were at all times of the

705
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 9: day and. Night we would have photos of them, everything

706
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 9: and it was spot that they were going to stay

707
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 9: at The Essex. House but that wasn't the. Case brian

708
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 9: or Really Tour management which Was General Artists corporation and

709
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 9: handled the. Tour they were a talent agency out Of

710
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 9: New York. City they actually booked all the hotels and

711
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 9: things like. That, well they booked The Speedway, motel which you,

712
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 9: know it's great For indie car. Drivers but for The,

713
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 9: beatles it wasn't such a great place because of its.

714
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 9: Layout but The Speedway motel had open corridors and kind

715
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 9: of an open parking lot for fans to really kind

716
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 9: of get in there and try to try to work

717
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 9: their way in to get to see The.

718
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 6: Beatles, MIKE i like this next clip because this is

719
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 6: from a local television station and they're coverage correct of The.

720
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 6: Beatles that's.

721
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 7: Correct WISH tv actually did a show Called my Or

722
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 7: Our Fare, beatles which ran In september of sixty, four

723
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 7: kind of covering the beatles whole trip To. Indianapolis it's

724
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 7: a really cool show that you can actually find on.

725
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 10: YouTube in the, morning the remarkably well kept secret began

726
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 10: to leak. Out people whispered that The beatles were houses

727
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 10: the speedy. Motel the, screaming violent crowds of people were

728
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 10: still not. INEVIDENCE a few faithful fans maintained a vigil

729
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 10: outside the police lines in hopes of getting a glimpse

730
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 10: of just one. Beefle the policemen ready for any emergency, Waiting.

731
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 6: Mike, not unlike when you walked through The Indianapolis Motor,

732
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 6: speedway there's always a buzz right about. That so you

733
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 6: can only imagine what it was like when The beatles were,

734
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 6: there and just some of the PROTOCOLS i would imagine

735
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 6: that had to take, place, right.

736
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: That's, Right.

737
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 7: DONALD i actually talked to him about the different protocols

738
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 7: because people were calling the. Switchboard they had a switchboard

739
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 7: there at The speedway, motel and they wanted people obviously

740
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 7: wanted to talk to any member of the fab foard

741
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 7: they could get ahold. Of So donald talked about how

742
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 7: they put some protocols in place to keep that from.

743
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: Happening they must have had a little bit of an,

744
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: entourage but they didn't have a bunch of roadies like

745
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: they do. Now and, HONESTLY i don't know what the

746
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: traveling group consisted, of but they did put out a

747
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: kind of a red herring that The Essex house was

748
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: where they would be, staying and whatever extra people that they,

749
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: had that's where they. Stayed and again they didn't have

750
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: like thirty forty fifty people and truckloads of equipment and.

751
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: Everything it was a very simple setup in those. Days

752
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: so they booked the three rooms and a GENTLEMAN i

753
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: knew very well Named David cassidy happened to be the

754
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: manager of the, motel and he told me all these.

755
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: Stories and he said that they booked three rooms And

756
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: Brian epstein had, one and then the, boys believe it or,

757
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: not doubled up two by two in the other two.

758
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: Rooms and he, said we knew that we'd probably be

759
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: getting a lot of phone, calls and so the word

760
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: was at the, switchboard don't put any calls through unless

761
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: because you'll have people with all kinds of excuses and

762
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: everything to try and talk to The beatles if they've

763
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: either figured that they're there or guests that they're. There

764
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: and they said that if it is an official when

765
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: it comes and you will be Told liverpool, calling even

766
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: if it's from Here, liverpool It's liverpool, calling will be

767
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: the parish word that that's an official. Call and put

768
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: them all through To Brian. Epstein don't put any into

769
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: the other two.

770
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 6: Rooms Jerry baker was a longtime voice of The Indianapolis

771
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 6: Motor speedway radio. Network not only, that but he also

772
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 6: happened to be the familiar voice that introduced The beatles

773
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 6: to the crowd In. Indianapolis one, minute, okay.

774
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: One one put, Second.

775
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 11: Frank.

776
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: Similian the banks are a great.

777
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 11: CROWD i didn't come up through The Frank sinatra. AGE

778
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 11: i Think frank.

779
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 3: Is one of the.

780
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 11: GREATEST i missed The sinatra. ERA i was right in

781
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 11: the middle of The Elvis chrysli. Era BUT i have

782
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 11: never in my life than anything like you know who

783
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 11: on behalf of all of The State Fair board and

784
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 11: all the good GUYS wifb MAY i.

785
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 6: Present Ringo starr was one of them that, said you know,

786
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 6: What i'm not just going to be cooped up in

787
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 6: the hotel, Room. Mike he decided to actually take his

788
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 6: own little two Of. Indianapolis, correct that's.

789
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 7: Right this story has taken out a bit of a

790
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 7: life of its, own As ringos told several different versions

791
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 7: of this, story but this is one. Version he told

792
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 7: of the story To David, letterman and When David letterman

793
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 7: had his talk, show he.

794
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: Must have been at one of.

795
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 6: THEM i, WAS i was In.

796
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 12: Indianapolis everybody was in indian and there was a there

797
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 12: was a story after the show's There and you probably

798
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 12: heard this if in every city you attended that you

799
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 12: stayed up all night and drove around town with a police.

800
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: Officer, yeah was that true or was that just that's

801
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: one of the true stories.

802
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 12: And Why, indianapolis why a policeman was a friendly.

803
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 3: Policeman it's a let me drive the police, call AND

804
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 3: i said, Yeah and we were driving. Around the funniest

805
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: bit that no one else knows is that we would

806
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 3: chase final the cup.

807
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 6: Call is that?

808
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 3: Right and we had to drive up An aliens and

809
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 3: the lights out and hide And i'm hiding with this

810
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: coffin an alis so we didn't get.

811
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 12: COOLED i see that would have been bad if you'd

812
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 12: get a gunned down in An indianapolis alley and some

813
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 12: kind of police.

814
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: SHOOTOUT i don't think of that or the other. Thing

815
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: you could have made citizens arrests all.

816
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: NIGHT i could arrested the cup and let me drive his.

817
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 6: Gun Chuck gunderson with more On Ringo's big night on The.

818
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 9: Town the concert had been, played he just couldn't get to,

819
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 9: sleep so he wandered outside The speedway motel and talked

820
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 9: the troopers into taking him on a tour in their

821
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 9: police cruiser and see some of the sights Of. Indiana

822
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 9: so they dropped by The governor's mansion and they drove

823
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,479
Speaker 9: around Downtown indianapolis and then the trooper had a great.

824
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 9: Idea he wanted to take. Them we're un to Take

825
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 9: Ringo star out to his farmhouse outside in the. Country

826
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 9: and they had arrived in the early. Morn warning is

827
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 9: his wife was actually getting the horses ready to be

828
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 9: shown at The Indiana State fair that, day and she

829
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 9: was just looking At ringo, like, well who this guy

830
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 9: that you brought? Home she could care. Less, well one

831
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 9: person really, cared and that was the officer's. Daughter she

832
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 9: was eleven years old at the.

833
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 6: Time The beatle that was most interested in the tour

834
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 6: of the, speedway because The beatles did take a tour

835
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 6: of the speedway as, well Was George. Harrison Donald. Davidson

836
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 6: on Where George harrison's interest in racing came.

837
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: From Graham hill and then Later Damon hill apparently was

838
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: very fond Of And i've always thought That Damon hill

839
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: And George harrison looked very. ALIKE i, Mean i'm not

840
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: maybe quite to the point of being, brothers but they

841
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: could almost be. RELATED i, MEAN i know brothers that

842
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: look less the likes than those two. Do but where

843
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 1: his interest in motorsports came, FROM i don't, know except

844
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: That british people tend to be interested in motor racing

845
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: except that he's it's the only one of the four

846
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: THAT i know had an. Interest but it was quite,

847
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: extensive and he would go to The British Grand. PRIX

848
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: i don't he never came to The indianapolis five hundred

849
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: as far AS i, know but he did go To

850
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: Long beach. Anyway to my, knowledge he never came to

851
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: a five hundred.

852
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 6: Here, MIKE i know how much you love The. BEATLES

853
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 6: i know how much you loved The Indianapolis Motor. SPEEDWAY

854
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 6: i feel like we could do an entire two hours

855
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 6: on nothing But beatles and.

856
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 2: Ims there's no question about. That we could easily do

857
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: two to four hours on both of those.

858
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 6: THINGS i will tell you that during my TRIP i

859
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 6: also went to The Cavern club In liverpool where The

860
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 6: beatles played two hundred ninety two, times and it was,

861
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 6: very very, cool but not as cool as The Indianapolis Motor.

862
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 6: Speedway but what Is that's why we talk about it

863
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 6: each and every night anytime that there's a race taking

864
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 6: place at The Indianapolismoter speedway on this program that we

865
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 6: Call beyond The. Bricks we thank you for listening to it,

866
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 6: tonight so much. Fun we'll do it again tomorrow For

867
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 6: Landing coons And Mike. Thompson I'm Jake. Querry we will

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Speaker 6: talk to you tomorrow