1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Wow, I, ladies and gentlemen, am a sucker for a 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Cameroon wrapper, always have been. I don't know really what 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: it is about the Cameroon that I like so very much. 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: It's just it just works for me. 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: And so I was searching for some low cost, high 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: yield cigars. Yes, even I do from time to time 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: pay attention to price. 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: It's eat, drink, smoke. 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drinker. 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: Fingers moloy And this from La Aurora is the nineteen 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: o three Cameroon Toro. This is a five and three 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: quarter by fifty four, which means it's five and three 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: quarter inches long. Tea always makes fingers when I laugh. 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: And the ring gauge is a fifty four. That's a 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: diameter of the cigar, or how thick it is around 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: tea again with the laughter. So a sixty four ring 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: gauge would be a full one inch around. This is 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: probably top of the markt where I like to be. 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: Not probably this is top of the mark or wherever 20 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 1: I like to. 21 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: Be in terms of a cigar. Uh. 22 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: This has a really monotone type of color to it, 23 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: in a darker brown it's got a little bit of 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: swaying going on on that field. 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: I don't think I would call that oily. 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: Although it does have a touch of oil, it's more swede. 27 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: You can feel more of a of a velvety touch 28 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: as opposed to let's say, a grittiness on this Fingers. 29 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: Velvety touch, by the way, was my debut album. 30 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: And it was fantastic. It featured a young Burt Backrack. 31 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's dating me. I almost with Burl eyes 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: see now. That would have made me feel more comfortable, 33 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: even though Burl is actually quite much I think he's 34 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: a lot older. 35 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: I think they're both that. Oh did anybody tell them? 36 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: Anybody tell America? That's right? Where are the shadow that 37 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: makes fun of Burt Backrack? 38 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: We're going to hell? Huh, Fingers, what do you you 39 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: started already smoking? I'm just gonna light this up right down. So, 40 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: first of all, there's quite a bit of haft for 41 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: this cigar. For the size that it is. I thought 42 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: it would be a little lighter, which lends to a 43 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: better hand feel in my mind. Just lit this up really, 44 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit of wood, maybe a hint of nuttiness, 45 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 2: and that's about it. I'm not getting any kind of 46 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: pepper at this point, no coffee, no chocolate. It's so far, 47 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: so good. Especially my impression of this cigar maybe a 48 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: little bit influenced right away because Tony told me ahead 49 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: of time how much it is. So I'm trying to 50 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: I'm trying to let that not influence how I feel 51 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: about the cigar. But that's what I'm getting so far. Yeah. 52 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: So La Aurora does a lot. 53 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: Of nice pieces, I think, and I you know, perception 54 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: is everything, and if you were to take a look 55 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: at some of the listing of La Aurora, some of 56 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: the Churchills they do, some of the tubos that they've 57 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: got together, they've got some nice pieces. I think more 58 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: people know the one oh seven series from them. I 59 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: just don't think that La Aurora as a name is 60 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: in the same pantheon is where people put, oh, that's 61 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: a nice cigar, and that's that's a shame in that 62 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: the whole thing about the name the brand is that's 63 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: not true. What is good is what you like, and 64 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: without trying things, you're never ever going to know. I 65 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: got to this because I wanted a Cameroon. I wanted 66 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: something like this in my humidor, and I ended up 67 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: buying a box. 68 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: Okay, I bought. 69 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: I just said yes, please, and I will take that 70 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: night unseen. Never had one before. I think I have, 71 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: But I can't tell you when I don't think we've 72 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: ever reviewed this cigar. I didn't go back and double 73 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: check and triple check. We've been doing this for six years. 74 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: There comes a moment. 75 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: Where you can't remember everything Episode eighty four, Actually, is 76 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: that right? No? I just made that up. Nicely done, 77 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: thank you. 78 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: But I trust the brand enough and I'm like, I'll 79 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: absolutely give this a go. The cedar note that would 80 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: note you're talking about is absolutely true. What there isn't 81 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: is a harshness. Also, the cigar is not actually, at 82 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: this moment tobacco forward. 83 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: It's actually a bit of a clean smoke. 84 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: That little bit of spice that exists on the tongue there, 85 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: and there's kind of a kind of a feel towards 86 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: the back of the throat, which you can describe as 87 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of leather. So there's this and also 88 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: that could be seen as a spice. There's a there. 89 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes if you don't get leather, but do you get spice, 90 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: you're in the same kind of place and always by 91 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: the way, you can get different flavors. And that's what 92 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: the hell do we know? Honestly, what the hell does 93 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: anybody really. 94 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: And truly know? Do you like it? Or do you not? 95 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: La Aurora the nineteen oh three Cameron Toro five and 96 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: three quarter by fifty four? Get your notebooks out? What 97 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: did you eat today? What did you drink today? Should 98 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: we play America's favorite game? What af fingers MOI I 99 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: eat today? 100 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: Do you really want to know? Is it that bad? 101 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: It's pretty bad? 102 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: I will play it later. Okay, that's called the teas. 103 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, wait too. 104 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: Hear this. 105 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: You won't believe he's still alive. It's a question we've 106 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: always been asking. So get your notebk gout? What'd you 107 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: eat today? Would you drink today? The weather we've had 108 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: freezing cold in Indianapolis, finally seeing some nicer weather now. 109 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: We went from snow to sixty degrees in like an hour. 110 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: So I took Fingers Moy Senior back up to Saginaw, Michigan, 111 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: his old stomping grounds, over the weekend, and I was 112 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: returning home Sunday and drove through six inches of snow. 113 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: It was absolutely crazy, because you know, earlier in the 114 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 2: week he was talking sixty eight degrees then six inches, 115 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: six inches of snow, just like that, just like what, 116 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: just like that? 117 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: Like there you go, just making sure we can both 118 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: do that. I just wasn't sure. I thought maybe Fingers 119 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: was having a problem. You know, if we lost his 120 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: snapping fingers, we've got a serious problem. And then you 121 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: take the cigar. Take the cigar and break into thirds 122 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: in your mind, first, third, second, third, final third. 123 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: What'd you eat today? Write it down? What'd you drink today? 124 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: Write it down? 125 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: Affects your palette, the weather can affect your palette. And 126 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: then break the cigar into the thirds and write down 127 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: the flavors you get from each third of the cigar. 128 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter, how esoteric doesn't matter, how basic, doesn't matter. 129 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: When you try the cigar a month from now, six 130 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: months from now, whatever it is, you go back and 131 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: you check your notes, and that's your through line, right, Oh, 132 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: this is what I got, This is what I got, 133 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: And then you're able to talk about that cigar. And also, okay, 134 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: there's a cameroon wrapper with the cigar. Now I know 135 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: what that is. I will the fillers Dominican and Nica Roguin. 136 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 1: The binder is an Ecuadorian Sumatra. According to the guys 137 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: at Developing Palettes. I'll trust them on that one, so 138 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: you'll be able to be like, ooh, I like that 139 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: kind of flavor. 140 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: I wonder what other cigars have that. 141 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: It's how I found myself so attracted to the Cameroon rap. 142 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: So I've had people ask me Tony, how big is 143 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: Tony's notebook? 144 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: My notebook is six years of this show. There it is, 145 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 1: I mean it is, it's six years of this show. 146 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: It's it's you. But I do go back. 147 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: I am actually I'm glad you brought that up, because 148 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: as we do the show, I don't have a notebook 149 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: in front of me. 150 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: I have started the process of going back. 151 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: To the beginning and writing it down and every one 152 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 1: of those cigars, because I've had them more and once, 153 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: Where am I at it? What am I doing with it? 154 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: What do I think of it? And also, it's not 155 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: about the size of the notebook. 156 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: There it is, it's how you use it. Having said that, no, 157 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: you can get a bunch of smaller notebooks. That's what 158 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Oh, thank you I've always been 159 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: impressed at your recall when it comes to cigars you've 160 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: had in the past, your experience with them. I've always 161 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: said that I'm a fan of cigars, cigars, but I 162 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: don't have the passion that you have for them. You 163 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: really really not only you know, sit back and enjoy 164 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: a cigar. You want to know more about the cigar. 165 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: You want to know you know more about the company 166 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: that makes the cigar. I've always been impressed with that. 167 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: Well, that that's kind I've I've always been impressed with 168 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: your ability to show up on. 169 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: Time, and I do that eighty three percent of the time. 170 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: By the way, if if going back to the last 171 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: time we did La Aurora the ordage, is the last 172 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: La Aurora that. 173 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: That we did? Now? 174 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: Is this in our humid or is the question a 175 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: great question which I cannot answer for you just yet. 176 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: We've just started smoking with us the Law Aurora Cameroon. 177 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: Grab one smoke along with us Grilled cheese, Ladies and gentlemen. 178 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm looking for a cigar that tastes like grilled cheese. 179 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: If you expect me to throw something out there that 180 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: will make that make sense, I'm I'm sorry. I have nothing. 181 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: If I eat the grilled cheese, then my cigar might 182 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: taste like grilled cheese. I guess the point is in 183 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: the mood for grilled cheese. Fair tea drinks, wellcome Tony Katz, 184 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: and that is America's favorite amateur drinker, fingers Maloy. By 185 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: the way, I was going back and just making sure 186 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: we did the La Aurora ortaage in March. I see, 187 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: that's how long we've been doing this. I did forget. 188 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: Oh I thought you would remember that. I remember the cigar. 189 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: I don't remember that it was. 190 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: That's all blending together. Oh it was in March. You're 191 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: an idiot. 192 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: It was a simpler time, oddly enough, Yes, really, really 193 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: really was. 194 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: There was a survey done of Americans regarding grilled cheese, 195 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: how they like it now. 196 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: In a weird way, this is fascinating because you know, 197 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: we think of brisket, we think of barbecue is as 198 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: very very specific as specific to region. 199 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: If you read our book Let's Go Barbecue, all these. 200 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: Different areas and and how they engage different types of 201 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: sauces Alabama white sauce, for example. Things like that. You 202 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: can find it at Amazon dot com. Let's Go BBQ 203 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: recipes tips and Tails from the pit. But it is 204 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: true that people do grilled cheese in all different ways, 205 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: starting with not even just the basic the cheese. 206 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: But the bread. 207 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: Fingers, molloy, you make a grilled cheese sandwich at home, 208 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: what's the bread? 209 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: Whatever's in the pantry. Okay, so you're not specific, No, 210 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: But if I were to choose, if you said, grab 211 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: a loaf of bread, we're making grilled cheese, sour dough. 212 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: Fine pick, fine pick. You wouldn't just go with basic white. 213 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: You wouldn't go with a rye. You wouldn't go with 214 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: a holla halla close. 215 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 2: Oh no, I would. If you had rye right there, 216 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: I would. I would definitely try a rye. 217 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: So what we have just done, Fingers, boy, is we 218 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: have started a fight in homes all across America right now. 219 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: People are arguing about what bread to use, and that 220 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: has led to people actually stabbing each other. 221 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: Stop doing that. It's just a grilled cheese and the 222 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: correct answered for some is whole wheat. Yeah. Well, whatever 223 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: you do to those people, it's fine by us. But 224 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 2: don't you feel like the grilled cheese sandwich is an 225 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: afterthought when you were planning your menu for the week 226 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: for the fam. Does anyone say, you know what Tuesday 227 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: night is? Grilled cheese sandwich night? Well, Tuesday night is 228 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: taco night. That's why they call it Taco Tuesday. 229 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: Fair enough, but you might think of grilled cheese and 230 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: tomato soup, especially with winter here. Except for all the 231 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: good people in Texas who have wonderful weather, the rest 232 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: of us grilled cheese, tomato soup. You don't like tomato soup? 233 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: Did No, it has tomatoes in it? Fan, I don't 234 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: even understand. So they did a. 235 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: Little comparison here, survey of five thousand people ideal grilled cheese. 236 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: So when asked about the combo, what kind of cheese 237 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: is forty four cheddar? Forty percent American cheese? And in 238 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: that moment I realized that forty four percent of America 239 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: are a bunch of morons. Wow, morons, I'm not even 240 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: gonna be kind of at Of course it's American cheese. 241 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: Of course, it's American cheese, and preferably something you unwrap 242 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: from plastic. It should be the kind of American cheese 243 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: that you could utilize to fill a hole in your 244 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: wall instead of spackle that kind of cheese. 245 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: Are you talking the kind of cheese that comes in 246 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: a cardboard box. It should only come in a cardboard box. 247 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: I bores head American cheese ninety nine times out of 248 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: one hundred. 249 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: That's what we're buying here. What? Nothing? 250 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: What? 251 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: I was just about to pat you on the back. 252 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: What and say, wow, I thought you were gonna be 253 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: an elitist by saying the only cheese that you have 254 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: in a grilled cheese is smokes Gouda. I thought that's 255 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: what was gonna happen. You're like, no American cheese. And 256 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: then you go boar's head. Yes, not a savage boar's head, 257 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: or makes a fine product. I'm not disparaging the fine 258 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 2: the boar's head people boys said mafia, they're coming. Yes, 259 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: that's true, but one pound of boar's head cheese, correct 260 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. Sixty two dollars. 261 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: That is accurate and honestly well worth it. But it 262 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: could be craft. You were talking about the cardboard velveta, 263 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: and I'd be a no. 264 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: On belvida from my grilled cheese. That would not be right. 265 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: So if that's if you're incorporating multiple cheese, the combo 266 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: is cheddar and American. 267 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: I don't understand that. I think it's just American cheese. 268 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,599 Speaker 1: I don't combo my cheese and a grilled cheese. 269 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: I only combo it when I open up of the 270 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 2: cheese tray in my refrigerator and there are two different 271 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 2: kinds of cheeses, and there's not enough for one sandwich 272 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 2: by using just one of them. So I just throw 273 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: a bunch of cheese mystery cheese sandwich. And then came 274 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: the bread choice. Forty three said white bread. Now the 275 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: question is how do you cut it? How do you 276 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: cut your grilled cheese sandwich? Fingers, Willy, You don't what 277 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: you cutting your sandwich for. It's gone. How big is 278 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: your bread? What's going on here? You really don't cut 279 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: a grill cheese. Don't kind of any sandwich. 280 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: By the way, the average American adult, according to Pepper's Farm, 281 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: eats thirty six grilled cheese sandwiches a year. 282 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: True or false. That's that's true. That's totally insane. 283 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: No one is eating thirty six grilled cheese sandwiches except 284 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: for your eight year old. 285 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: Well, they said the average American. Some may only have 286 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: eight in a year. Some may have one hundred and seven. 287 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: I don't think I've had a grilled cheese sandwich this year. No, 288 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: I'm having one tomorrow. 289 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: Forty eight percent of Americans say you cut it into triangles. 290 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: I believe that is accurate. I believe that's the way 291 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: people do it. They do it. On the angle of surprise, 292 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: it's only forty eight percent. 293 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: By the way, white bread wins out with forty three percent, 294 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: followed by sourdough at twenty four percent. 295 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: Well, the cutting it in triangles makes you feel like 296 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: you got a bigger sandwich. I think it's because it's 297 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: easier for the dipping. Oh there's that too, right, dipping 298 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: into the tomato soup. No, dipping it into fruit loops. 299 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: No, what exactly you dip your grilled cheese sandwich into 300 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: your cereal? 301 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: I would if it were grape nuts. It would finally 302 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: give it some flavor. 303 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: I think the moral are here is that it is 304 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: one of those foods that you that to your point, 305 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: you're never thinking about. 306 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: It's never on the menu, and then you hear it, 307 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: You're like, oh, that sounds awesome to me. It is 308 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: very much a meal of oh crap, we forgot to 309 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: go to the grocery store today. Oh, we got some 310 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: bread and cheese. Let's throw together some grilled cheese sandwich 311 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: and then you eat it and everybody's happy. Would you say, Tony, 312 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: it's good comfort food? When you say it like that, 313 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: I can't and I want you so badly. Yes, it's 314 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: very good comfort food. You know, it's very good with 315 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: with a grilled cheese sandwiches. Boar's head, tomato soup they 316 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: don't wait, hold on, do they make tomato soup? No? Seven? 317 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: Tweeto Boor's Head. If you can afford it, eat well. 318 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: It comes in a crystal vase. 319 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: Forest Head is great and they make a great sponsor 320 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: of eatdrink, smoke. Not that what what do you get? 321 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: What do you get, mister Mockne for being an elitist? 322 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: I can't grocery store, great. 323 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: Value American cheese from Walmart where I get my cheese 324 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: and motor oil. 325 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 2: Wow, have we insulted everybody? You are? We are really unrolled. 326 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 2: Good on us, eat, drink, smoke. 327 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: It is your cigar bourbon food extravaganza. I'm Tony kats 328 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: that right there is fingers maloy and I want to 329 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: be perfectly clear whether you eat boar's head or whether 330 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: you buy from Walmart, You're welcome here at Eat, Drink, 331 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: Smoke Nation. I'm sorry Fingers Maloya is such an elitist 332 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: snob that he thinks some of you shouldn't be here. 333 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: Fingers is sometimes terrible. We'll deal with him later appropriately, 334 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: probably involving a large stick. But until that moment happens, 335 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: thank you for being a part of Eat, Drink, Smoke Nation, 336 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: and just remember we love you. And while you're sleeping, 337 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: we're watching. 338 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 2: That was a message from every Man Tony Cats. 339 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: That's what they call me. Every Man Tony said, no 340 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: one ever smoking the law Aurora nineteen o three, Cameroon, Toro. 341 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: This is five and three quarters by fifty four. What 342 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 1: I like about this cigar, because I have already smoked 343 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: a few of these, is that it starts off clean. 344 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: It does. 345 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 2: It starts kind of off, kind of nondescript. 346 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: That little bit of spice the Fingers talking about that 347 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: would that Fingers was talking about, which I would definitely 348 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: call a cedar. I think that as it hits the 349 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: back of the tongue to the bit of the throat, 350 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: there it becomes a leather. And if you can equate 351 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: the smell of fresh leather to a taste. That's the 352 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: way I would do it. I think that this cigar 353 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: builds out nicely. I think that we're still in the 354 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: first third, but I'm already in a place where, you 355 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 1: know what, it's probably playing more towards the full size, 356 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: full side, right, it's a fuller cigar, But I don't 357 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: feel that I'm overwhelmed. Interestingly, the flavor is in the 358 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: tongue and in the throat, not in the cheek. 359 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: There's nothing really happening in there. 360 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: But I like it. I think it smokes nice. I 361 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: think it's smoking easy. I haven't had to touch it 362 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: up all that much that I that I recall. Sometimes 363 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: I touch it up out of habit as opposed to need. Right, 364 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: That sometimes happens. But I think it's playing very, very nice. 365 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: I think it's very attractive. 366 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with you. I'm not really getting 367 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: much of a spice for me. It's that the wood 368 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 2: notes you mentioned leather. I could see that. I you know, 369 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 2: it's really strange. I feel like it's almost like a 370 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: walnut for a nutty. If I was really gonna get 371 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: specific about it. Really, Yeah, that's where I would go, 372 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: but it's been it's been great so far. I haven't 373 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 2: had to really touch it up all that much. The 374 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: hand feel we talked about that earlier is great so far. 375 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 2: I'm really really happy. 376 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: Fingers WILLI the La Aurora nineteen oh three, Cameroon. Is 377 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: this in your humid or for seven dollars and twenty cents? 378 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: Yes, guys, absolutely. 379 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: Now this is not perfectly my flavor profile. But at 380 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: seven bucks all day long, no, no question none, there's 381 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: just a lot of good things happening here. Maybe I 382 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: would prefer more of a coffee note. Maybe I like 383 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: a little bit more of a chocolate note, maybe even 384 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: multi things like that that not every cigar is that 385 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: thing for a little bit of spice, that little bit 386 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: of wood, just a pleasantness of a tobacco that isn't 387 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: too forward. Hell yeah, all day golf course, work you 388 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: around the house while you're grilling in fall weather. So 389 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: if you have to put it down, you don't feel 390 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: bad about it, no question. 391 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 2: And just as I said, I didn't have to touch 392 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: it up. I just had to touch it up. But 393 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: I agree with you're saying what you're saying. Also, you 394 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 2: know all these notes that we're talking about. Everything's really subtle. 395 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 2: Nothing is really hammering you. I could see starting your 396 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 2: day with this, could you really? Oh yeah, absolutely, you 397 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 2: don't think that that's a little spicier. I'm not getting that. 398 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: So you really are denoting a difference between the wood 399 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: and the idea of SPI. 400 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not getting anything like that. But that's just me, 401 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: you get. Everyone hits their palette differently, But this to me, 402 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 2: for me, especially at that price point, could be an 403 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: everyday cigar. Oh sure, oh sure. 404 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: The only thing I would say is that I would 405 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: love to try this in. 406 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 2: A fifty ring gage. 407 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: I would love this so I had a different ratio 408 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: of rapper to binder and filler, because I love the 409 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: camera and wrapper and I love what that has to offer, 410 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: which usually has a more of a toothiness to it, 411 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: which this does not in the rapper, which is interesting. 412 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: I would like to have that ratio a little bit more. 413 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: This is a fifty four ring gage. Is part of 414 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: the reason why it's not even more for me in 415 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: terms of enjoyball though. I think it's it's really good. 416 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: I think it's solid. I think it's working terrifically for exactly. 417 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: What it is. 418 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: I if I could get this in a fifty by 419 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: five and three quarter. 420 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: I'd be a happy man. I'd be a happy happy man. 421 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is in the human or for sure it's 422 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: time Fingers moy for news of the week. 423 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: Is it really? Wow? Shutdowns over? 424 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: Everybody's getting paants wonderful singing. 425 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: Let's start with that Trump, President Trump. Excuse me, I 426 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: was just reading the headline from the Wall Street Journal 427 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: says Trump President Trump signed the spending bill, ending the 428 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 2: longest shutdown in the United States history. Yeah, now. 429 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: You understand the Fingers and I come from political backgrounds, 430 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: political talk radio. 431 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: We have you name them. 432 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: We've done the interview, We've had the chance to consult 433 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: with people, we have been at the conferences, we've been 434 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: at the places, we have been padded down by Secret Service. 435 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've smoked a cigarette afterwards. 436 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: We do eat drink smoke to get away from all that. 437 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: We do eat drink smoke to avoid the politics. 438 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 2: So if you were. 439 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: Looking for a political take on the shutdown, that isn't 440 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: what we're bringing you today. 441 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: Rather, there is a larger. 442 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: Question that could be asked, and I think it's the 443 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: question being asked by America, which is, of course, what 444 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: the hell was the point of all this? What was 445 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: the point of all this? It was a continuing resolution 446 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: forty two days of people not getting paid of then 447 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: a question of course of SNAP benefits right supplemental nutritional 448 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: supplemental Nutrition Assistance Plan benefits, food stamps not going out, 449 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: and they signed the continuing resolution that was there forty 450 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: two days ago. 451 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: What was the point of all this? Fingers boy? Why 452 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: why put America through this exercise? It's all politics, is 453 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 2: it not. I mean, we don't have to get into 454 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: what the politics were about, but it's all politics. 455 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: So I want to make sure what we're saying, because 456 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: when we're saying all politics, what we're saying is one 457 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: group of people saw an opportunity for power, and another 458 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: group of people saw an opportunity not to have to 459 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: agree to their push for power. 460 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: That's it. 461 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, And by the way, that could go other ways 462 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: with other parties and other times and all that jazz. 463 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: At what moment do Americans say, my god, are we 464 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: tired of your crap or is it immediately forgotten about 465 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: because they're on to the next Oh my gosh, the 466 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: worst thing in the world. That's just happened thing and 467 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: getting people to try and change their minds. 468 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 2: I think you just answered your question with that answer, 469 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: and it's that it's listen. I think in a lot 470 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: of ways, the American people have been like this previously, 471 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: before social media, they would move on relatively quickly. But 472 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: now in the social media age, there's a new thing 473 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: to be outraged over this morning, and they move on 474 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: to the next outrage. And then you've got one group 475 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: of people who are outraged, you've got another group of 476 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: people who are saying it's a big nothing burger. Doesn't matter, 477 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: the tough topic, doesn't matter which side of the political 478 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 2: aisle you're on. It's just this constant bickering back and 479 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: forth until one day it all comes to blows and 480 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 2: we have a water balloon fight. 481 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: I swear to you if we solved our problems Aaron 482 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: Burr Alexander Hamilton water balloon style. First of all, the 483 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: pay per view alone, the pay per view alone, that 484 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: we could get to see Ted Cruz going up against 485 00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren in. 486 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: A water in fight. 487 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: I would pay cash cash, take my money. 488 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: Well, what you could do while you're watching it. Part 489 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 2: of News of the Week also is Jack Daniels, for 490 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 2: the first time in over one hundred years, will now 491 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 2: be selling three liter bottles of Old number seven. Where 492 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 2: Costco Do I get this? I don't believe it's just 493 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 2: at Costco. You may be able to get it at 494 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 2: your own liquor store, your your favorite liquor store. It 495 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 2: will be seventy nine dollars and ninety nine cents for 496 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 2: a three liter bottle A three lider Jack, yep, be 497 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: able to get you through the next shutdown, right because. 498 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: Only one three liter bottle of Jack is gonna be 499 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: needed for another forty two day shutdown. 500 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: I that's overkill. I mean maybe if you're a bar, 501 00:26:50,560 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 2: that's overkill. Sure, that's overkilled. Winky winky winky winky winky winky. 502 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: So over there at Target, the people in the Red 503 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: Shirts are very unhappy because there is a new forced 504 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: greeting policy t Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That's Fingers Wiloy. 505 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: I find it all at Eat drinksmokeshow dot com. We 506 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: have a forced greeting policy here at Eat Rink Smoke 507 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: where Fingers MOI shows up to the studio and I say, 508 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: what took you so long? And he says, why don't 509 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: you shut it? 510 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 2: It's like you just got a behind the scenes look 511 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: at eatrink smoke. 512 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: They have a program at Target called the ten four program, 513 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: as in ten four good buddy. 514 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: Oh no, this sounds terrible. 515 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: It forces employees to engage with customers more no, employees 516 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: within ten feet of a customer are required to wait 517 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: for it. These are fingers Willoy's favorite things. Smile, go on, 518 00:27:54,920 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: cho everybody, Hi, you smile, make eye contact, wave, and 519 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: use friendly, approachable and welcoming body language. 520 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 2: How's it going, cowboy? 521 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm shopping a kmart. There are no 522 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 1: more kmarts. I would build one to get away from 523 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: what it is you just did. Any staff within a 524 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: four foot radius of a shopper must also personally greet 525 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: the customer and initiate a warm, helpful reaction. 526 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: No, no, you got it wrong. Target, How many more 527 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 2: ways can you screw this up? How many more ways 528 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 2: Target can America say? 529 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: By the way, I just touched up my cigar for 530 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: the first time, I think the first time? How much 531 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: many were more ways? 532 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: Target can? 533 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: Can can America say to you? All we want you 534 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: to do is sell us cheap T shirts? 535 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: We don't. 536 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: You know what when you have the Starbucks in there? 537 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,719 Speaker 1: All right, fine, we treat ourselves, but we don't need 538 00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: anything else really, right if when we get to the checkout, 539 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: the cashier says, hey, thanks for being here. Anything else 540 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: you need? Right, that's always nice? But you want me 541 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: while I'm looking for whatever new gift craze. It is 542 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: my eight year old ones and I don't know how 543 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: to find it. I barely can understand it. All I 544 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: know is when I find it's gonna cost me two 545 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty two dollars. 546 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: You think I want the. 547 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: Person who's stalking the shelves having people scream at them 548 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: all day. 549 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: I want them to pretend to be like, hey, how 550 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: you doing, Really glad you're here? What can I help you? Whip? 551 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 2: That's what I assume. They sound like Bobcat Golthwait. 552 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: Right, it was a little Bobcat gold Wait and a 553 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: little Maurice Chevalier. 554 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 2: Oh, I had a little bit of sophistication. 555 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: Nobody wants this. We want pleasant, we don't want forced. 556 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: It's very much like Robert Stack walking through the airport 557 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: on airplane. I'm just trying to get to the deli 558 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: meats jobs. We'd like to hear the flower. Oh my god, 559 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: I'm not interested. I don't even like going to the checkout. 560 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: Last week Caddyshack two. This week Airplane. Tune in next 561 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: week to find what classic movie Fingers is referencing this. 562 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: Time, Porky's three, Having said that ease, I don't want 563 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: to be bothered. I don't even like going to the 564 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 2: checkout and have them ask me how you're doing. The 565 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: best thing when you're going to the checkout the clerk 566 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: can say is did you find everything? Okay? Yeah, because 567 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: I don't want to go through the whole transactional How 568 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: are you doing? I'm fine today? How are you doing? 569 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 2: I'm fine today? Cold for you? You're asking me how 570 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 2: I feel. You don't care how I feel. Care No, 571 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,239 Speaker 2: and quite frankly, I'm happy that you're alive. Other than that, 572 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: I don't care either. 573 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: If you're in the aisle and you turn, if the 574 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: employee says if I can help you find anything, let 575 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: me know, great, because sometimes that initiation is like, yeah, actually, 576 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm looking for this thing. 577 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: That's super helpful. That's it. 578 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: That's all you need because the amount of let me 579 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: explain this to your fingers more. We have gotten to 580 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: a place in America where people don't know how to 581 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: talk to each other. 582 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: Now you like that place, absolutely, Here's where I don't 583 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 2: like that. That's my vanity. 584 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm standing in a supermarket, I'm talking to my wife 585 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: and there's someone behind us and they want to get by. 586 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm not really in the way, but they don't say 587 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: excuse me. They're just gonna wait there, wait there for 588 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: the rest of your life. I don't care. You can 589 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: die in that spot, your kids can come and mourn 590 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: you in that spot. Why can't you say excuse me, 591 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: just need to get by, that's it, and be like, yeah, 592 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: I'll move over a grade ahead. Why can't they say it? 593 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: People have forgotten how to talk, and they would rather they're. 594 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: So afraid of the talk. Stop being afraid of the talk. 595 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 2: That is a. 596 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: Different conversation than force the talk. That's not necessary. That's 597 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: a mistake from target. 598 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: See. I think you're completely wrong on this. I think 599 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 2: we as app developers should come up with an app 600 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: where someone could type into their phone for them to 601 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: be able to say excuse me, will you please move, 602 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 2: and have the app tell you to move. 603 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: You think we should devise an app where people just 604 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: hit a button and it'll say excuse me please. Yes, absolutely, 605 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: as opposed to having to say excuse me please? 606 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 2: Who needs that? 607 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: What if you could like more customize the app so 608 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: for some people it'll say excuse me please, and other 609 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: people it will say, can you move your fat ass 610 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: out of the way? Do you think you're capable of 611 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: doing that with your giant button? Do you think you 612 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: can move that? You think you can scooch that massive 613 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: load just maybe a few inches to the right, even 614 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: though we know you're gonna go home alone and cry 615 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: while you eat a full pints. I'm sorry corn, I'm 616 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: sorry gallon of ice cream. But if you could just 617 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: for right now move that giant whatever that is a 618 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: bit to the left so I can go get some 619 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: butter flavored uh MICROI popcorn. 620 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 2: We already have that app. It's called Twitter. Oh you 621 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 2: win this round? That's really good. You can't say it. 622 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 2: You want enough to do? Really, you're you won't do that. 623 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 2: You'll just stand there. Oh no, I'll just bust my 624 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 2: way right through. I don't get that. Why would you 625 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: do that? Why would I ask my way right through? Yeah? 626 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 2: Just say excuse me. Oh, I would say excuse me, 627 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: maybe even pardon me. 628 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: Wait, would you say it after you're already through, You've 629 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: already busted through and people are laying blooded on the ground. 630 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: Would you be pushing your cart going excuse me? Yes? 631 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: But then I would end the sentence with governor, that's 632 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: what I do target, what are you doing? 633 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to people. I just don't 634 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: want it. It's it's it's force. It is it is force, 635 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: and force is silly. 636 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,959 Speaker 2: And that's the other thing too, when everyone knows that 637 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 2: in this transaction that it's all phony. Right, But do 638 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 2: you feel that way about the Chick fil a people? Yeah? 639 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 2: Kind of. It will be my pleasure, but it's really not. 640 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: Are you sure. I'm pretty sure you're getting paid. Maybe 641 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: it's a pleasure to be able to get paid. 642 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: If it were a pleasure for them, they wouldn't be 643 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 2: getting paid for it. 644 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: But I do favor the idea of instilling in the 645 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: employees the concept of kindness and the concept of not 646 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: only appreciation of the job, but of the customer who's there. Sure, 647 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: some customers are lowlives. We all agree. Some customers are 648 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: just awful that you know it I know it. We 649 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: all know it. 650 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: The fingersmay Institute of institutes for institutes instead of study. 651 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 2: All right, recently we got a government grant. It's always good. 652 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: Eleven percent of customers are terrible. Eleven percent it just 653 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 2: feels because they're the loudest. 654 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: So but I I I would like to see employees 655 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: be a little more happy that they have a job, 656 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: as opposed to I can't believe I have to be 657 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: at this job. I think that I think it's just 658 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: better if attitude leads to a happier life in that regard, But. 659 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 2: I don't want to force. 660 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: A presentation on a customer that now puts me in 661 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: a spot where I have to respond. 662 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: And maybe I don't want to respond because you could 663 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 2: tell it's genuine if you're genuinely a happy, outgoing person 664 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 2: and you have the little Target vest on and you're 665 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 2: walking by someone. Target doesn't have a vest. They wear 666 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 2: a red they wear a red shirt. Is that a vest? 667 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 2: They don't vest? They have vests. I believe that's a vest. 668 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: Okay, maybe they've got vests. No that that lady in 669 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: the photo has a vest. 670 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 2: If they're a genuine outgoing person and they and you 671 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 2: make on eye contact and they say hello, that's fine. 672 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: But if they're coming over and they're tackling you to 673 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 2: make sure they get their hello in because the assistant 674 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 2: manager is watching, then nobody needs that. Now. I'm with you, 675 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 2: I'm with you, this is this is this is a miss. 676 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: And like if you see an employee coming around the corner, 677 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I got got out of this aisle 678 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: before they talk to him and do that all the time. 679 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 2: Do you really? Do you really? Oh? Especially at Kroger 680 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 2: when they are have the cell phone people who are 681 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 2: back trying to sell me self service? 682 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: Are the cell phone people back Kroger. If you don't 683 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: know that story, remind us we'll catch you on the 684 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: other side with that. 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I 711 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 2: will admit to you. 712 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: That I think it's the coolest bottle I've seen in 713 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: a while now. 714 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 2: The label on about can hand me that? Absolutely, the 715 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 2: labels you know, just slapped on there. It's not like 716 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 2: it's like embossed. 717 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: But this like Matt black glass. Yeah, that's very cool. 718 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 2: It's eat drink smell. 719 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. And that right there is America's favorite 720 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: amateur drinker, fingers myloy. And this is the Burning Chair 721 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: Bourbon whiskey. 722 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: There you, Oh, thank you. 723 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: I'll take coming in at forty four percent alcohol by 724 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: volume or eighty eight. 725 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 2: Proof aged four years. 726 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: Actually able to get a mash bill on this seventy 727 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: five percent corn, which would denote what fingers. 728 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 2: Moy, what did you say? It's I was putting the 729 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 2: bottle back. I'm sorry. Seventy five percent corn sweet? It 730 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: should be sweet. It should be sweet. See that? See that. 731 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: You hang around Eat Drink smoke Nation long enough you 732 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: learn a thing or two twenty one percent rye four 733 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: percent malted barley fingers. You found this a couple of 734 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: weeks ago. I had never heard of it. I had 735 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: never ever. 736 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 2: Heard of it. 737 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: We were looking things up about it, and someone did 738 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 1: a review over at leaf enthusiast dot com and paired 739 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 1: it with a Sincombromusa from Dunbart and tobacco, and trust 740 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: I said, I don't know about the bourbon, but I 741 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: like the parent because anything with a sincombro muso is 742 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: a good good, good maneuvering there good market. So this 743 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: uh is sourced out of Kentucky, Indiana and Tennessee. So 744 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: this is a blend of bourbons going on here, and 745 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: it is finished in cabernet barrels. And it was one 746 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: of the first thing's fingers said. When he pours this 747 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: out into our Arkenzie glasses, He's like, oh, yeah, oh 748 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: that's wine. 749 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 2: I had no idea how it was age to where 750 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 2: it was aged, or that was seventy five percent corn 751 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 2: in the mash bill right good home. But right away 752 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 2: you could get a whiff of uh oh on the nose. 753 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 2: That smells like wine. 754 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: And it's a pretty color, right So not as ambers. 755 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 1: I would like more in the in the copper orange 756 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,760 Speaker 1: right there, more what you would think of bourbon. 757 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 2: It looks like, by the way, who let you pour 758 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 2: look at the sides of this poor what that? Why 759 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 2: is your so tiny and mine is overflowing? It's because 760 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 2: you looked at me before we started and said I 761 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 2: need a drink. I didn't, Oh, but I should have. 762 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 2: Well that's sweet, yes it is. 763 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 1: Oh so that's a two for Wait a second, wait 764 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: a second. That is sweet and that is that is 765 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: that is a bit of oak. There's a bit of 766 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: oak in there's a bit of wood in there, but. 767 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 2: There is You get a red wine kind of hit 768 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 2: on the on the nose, do you not, Yes, yes, yes, yes. 769 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,720 Speaker 1: That sweetness could be seen as my people would say, 770 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: a touch of the mount of Chevitz that is Oh yeah, 771 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: have you. 772 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,240 Speaker 2: Ever had a mount of Schevitz? You're just making stuff 773 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 2: up at this point. 774 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 1: It's a brand and they make wine for Jewish holidays 775 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: and it is so sweet that one sip boom diabetes. 776 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: Oh you got the Wilford Brimley diabetes right there? 777 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 2: Can I get it at a gas station next to 778 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 2: Little Debbie? No, oh no you can't. That's too bad. 779 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 2: But it's right. Yeah, I think I think that definitely. 780 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 2: You can say there's a bit of wine there, but 781 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 2: I if I'm digging in, if I'm getting a little 782 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 2: bit fuller, there as sweet. 783 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: You know you're not You're not off. You're not off 784 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 1: with that, But enough with us just smelling things. Fingers Mali, 785 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: you ready for this? 786 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 2: I'm I'm ready. He's been ready for this all day. 787 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: Fingers Oi is doing what is known as the Kentucky chew, 788 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: moving the juice around the palette, getting a real feel 789 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: for the flavors. Sometimes you want to take too the 790 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: first sip to set the taste, but it's the second 791 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: sip to really get an understanding of what the bourbon is. 792 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 2: This is a four year bourbon whiskey. Fingers Blowy, what 793 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 2: say you? It's nice and listen. First of all, I 794 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 2: am not I freely I'm not a wine person. Okay, 795 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 2: that's much more of the world that you are in 796 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 2: and you're not even much of a wine but you 797 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 2: have much more experience in wine than Hey, if you. 798 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: Mean I have a wine key and can open a bottle, yes, wow, expert. 799 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 2: Having said that, I do still feel it that there's 800 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 2: like that red wine note as well as nice bit 801 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 2: of oak, nice bit of spice, maybe a little bit 802 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 2: of caramel on the finish. It's very very nice. I'm 803 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be curious what you think about it because 804 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 2: it is. It's sweet, so I'm not sure it's going 805 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 2: to be something you're going to be crazy about I'm 806 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 2: going in. 807 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: This is the burning chair Bourbon forty four percent alcohol 808 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: by volume, eighty eight proof. 809 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 2: Here I go, going in, ladies and gentlemen, and he's 810 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 2: doing what we like to call the Memphis munch, the 811 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 2: Chattanooga chomp, the burning chair chump. Ha ha. Well well, 812 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 2: well it was a quick spice punch on the tongue, 813 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 2: like a like a knife grazing your temple, and and. 814 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: Then wow, it has all settled lower ch a minute, 815 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:34,240 Speaker 1: Are you sure? 816 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 2: Are you sure? My god? In one shot? He sure? Subourbon? 817 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 2: Are you okay? Are you all right? Oh? Do we 818 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 2: need to call the authorities? He? 819 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 1: I think I think I might need some sour cream. Wow, 820 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,919 Speaker 1: that all hit all the heat hit low chest at 821 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: one shot. Oh it's still there. 822 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,959 Speaker 2: Oh oh is that what fireballs like? Wow? That really 823 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 2: that's weird. That is weird. 824 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: It's a fantastic finish. So what's really good? That's a 825 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: really good finish. 826 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,720 Speaker 2: It's it. It is fruity. Uh the oak is is there? 827 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 2: Uh there's a bit of vanilla going on, almost like 828 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 2: a vanilla cream. That's happening. That's a. 829 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: That I can't tell you where the palette was because 830 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 1: it moves so quickly to the. 831 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 2: Fire bomb in the bottom of my chest. 832 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, but the uh, but the 833 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: finish is is is a lover right there? 834 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 2: Is it too sweet for you? No? Wow, I'm curious 835 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 2: what a cube is. I'm going back in. Oh good 836 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 2: for you. You have plenty in your glass, so I'm glad 837 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,720 Speaker 2: you're going in for for seconds. He's doing the sagon 838 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 2: a swish. Ladies and gentlemen. Wow, did you just do 839 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 2: a pop Eye? Get get? I did it again? Wow? 840 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 2: What is happening? He's doing My god, he's doing a 841 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 2: full Fred Sandford. Ladies and gentlemen coming. Wow. Finish is 842 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 2: really nice. It is. 843 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,919 Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening, but I I I I 844 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,879 Speaker 1: in the in the mouth right fine. The minute it goes, 845 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, wow is that only eighty a proof? 846 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 2: That's amazing to me. So it skips the path, it 847 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,800 Speaker 2: skips the palette for you to gone, it goes. You 848 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 2: got fire in your belly, is what you're saying. Oh, 849 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, that's amazing. That's not oh. People are 850 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:10,240 Speaker 2: gonna love this. The finish is really really. 851 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: Delightful, like like you're gonna like that flavored life. You 852 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: know what, I might take away from vanilla and go 853 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 1: into a bit of a marshmallow almost. That's yeah, I 854 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: might hit toasted marshmallow. But I have no idea what 855 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: the palette is. What I do know is bowl of 856 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: yogurt to put out this heat, like I just had 857 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: a curry of Indo loop. 858 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 2: Fingers moloin. As you are. 859 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 1: Well aware, it is the holiday season. It is the 860 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 1: pumpkin spice season, fingers Molly. Where everything big and small, 861 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 1: everything expensive or free, is pumpkin spice. Your your mailman 862 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: smells of pumpkin spice. Your children smell of pumpkin spice. 863 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: Go on, smell your money pumpkin spice, and your pumpkin 864 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: spice smells it smells even more pumpkin spicier. 865 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 2: It's really the season of joy, sea drink smoke. 866 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz, and that right there is America's favorite 867 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 1: pumpkin spicer Fingers Malloy. Starbucks, They've got their new holiday 868 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:27,760 Speaker 1: cup designs. 869 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,359 Speaker 2: Aren't you excited? Oh? I'm gonna go and collect all 870 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 2: of them today. 871 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: I just want to say, for the record, nobody cares 872 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,879 Speaker 1: about the Starbucks cup design, and if they do, they 873 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 1: have way too much free time. And you're joking right, 874 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: people have like raged about these things. They've gotten angry 875 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: about these things. There's been threats about these things. It's 876 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: a freaking cup. It's a cup with some kind of 877 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 1: mermaid fish thing on it, and it's got a ribbon. 878 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 2: Can we move on? Please? 879 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 1: Can we stop the insanity of being concerned about this 880 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: ridiculous cup and be more bothered that so many people 881 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 1: buy overprized coffee? 882 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 2: The logo is a what it's. 883 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,399 Speaker 1: A fish lady. It's like a mermaid lady. I thought 884 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: it was Jerry West that that's the NBA. 885 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 2: Oh, I've got the wrong story. Open Yes, Starbucks. So 886 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you. By the way, that was 887 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 2: such an excellent poll. You to go with Jerry West. 888 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:44,720 Speaker 2: Uh so confession because I know how you feel about Starbucks. Yeah, 889 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 2: you're not a huge fan of Starbucks. 890 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 1: I am not so much impressed you will go to 891 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 1: a Starbucks if you have to. Of course I am not, 892 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: you know, crazy. 893 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 2: I have for my home machine there not going out, 894 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 2: but when I make home coffee at the house, there 895 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 2: in a machine made by mister coffee. I've been doing 896 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 2: a lot of Starbucks coffee lately, ground coffee. Yeah, it's 897 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 2: been been on sale. 898 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: Well, listen, I'm not gonna tell you not to buy 899 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 1: something on sale. 900 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 2: I am. You're gonna judge me, though, I'm. 901 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,839 Speaker 1: Not judging you fingers. Of all the things I would 902 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: judge you for. 903 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 2: It's another one to add to the list. You think 904 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 2: that even makes the top forty three. You Over the years, 905 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 2: you have made your opinion known. 906 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 1: About you, yes, yes, and about Starbucks. Starbucks can can 907 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 1: go bite? 908 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 2: What so? 909 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: Something I said Starbucks is what you do in a pinch. 910 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: Starbucks is not what you do as a standard. It's 911 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,359 Speaker 1: not It's just not well, it isn't. 912 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 2: Apparently many Americans disagree with you, and they run to 913 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 2: get not only do they get the expensive coffee. How 914 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,720 Speaker 2: much are these cups? Seriously? Are these are the cups 915 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,800 Speaker 2: that come with the coffee? Oh? You don't spend extra 916 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 2: to get? No, you're not. 917 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:19,839 Speaker 1: Collector, No, no, no, these are our regular cups that 918 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 1: you then throw away and destroy the environments with you. 919 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 2: Don't throw these away? Do you throw these away? No? 920 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 2: I mean the people who are really really passionate. 921 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 1: About not collecting cups like their beer bottles along the 922 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 1: wall of your dorm room. 923 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 2: They aren't. I just assume. Let me let me take 924 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 2: you back, ladies and gentlemen, to a simpler time. It 925 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 2: was back in the nineteen seventies when McDonald's the Golden 926 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 2: Arches used to release collector cups and people would run 927 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 2: to their local McDonald's. 928 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I almost got a set of McDonald's 929 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 1: rocks glasses. 930 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 931 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: They have rocks classes. They are Hawaii themed, Hawaiian McDonald's 932 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 1: rocks glasses. I missed out on the bid on Facebook marketplace. 933 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 1: I tried to get them. I'm going to find these things. 934 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: They're amazing. 935 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:18,760 Speaker 2: I have almost, on several occasions purchased McDonald's ash trays. 936 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 2: But the only thing that stopped me is they you know, 937 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 2: they were at the restaurants in the in the seventies, right, 938 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,359 Speaker 2: and they're way too small for cigars, right, But they're awesome, right, 939 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 2: and McDonald's So McDonald's it was. 940 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 1: You can buy the glass with Ronald McDonald's and Grimace 941 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 1: and the Hamburgler I remember. 942 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 2: Those, yeah, space ghost right. But so you're saying it's 943 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 2: not like that. It is just the regular old waxy paper. Yes, yes, 944 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 2: Why are people going crazy about these? I ah, I 945 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 2: think that hurt more than the bourbon. 946 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: They go crazy for them because people have given up 947 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 1: any thought of having a normal life. The things they 948 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,879 Speaker 1: get excited about, the things that are important to them, 949 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 1: it's just so ridiculous. They shouldn't even be out of Starbucks. 950 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 1: And they know they can't afford it. And if they 951 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 1: look at their bank grounds at the end of the month, 952 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 1: they're like, where'd all the money go? Well, it's a 953 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 1: six dollars whatever, frappa whatever, you know, twice a day, 954 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 1: five days a week. That's twelve times five. That's sixty 955 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 1: times worth two hundred and forty dollars the end. 956 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 2: That's one tenth of a car payment. Are we going 957 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,320 Speaker 2: to talk about the insanity of a fifty year mortgage? 958 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,839 Speaker 2: Can we do this? Can we? 959 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,280 Speaker 1: If you want to stay on target, I'll stay on target. 960 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,799 Speaker 1: I will totally star wars this thing with you. But 961 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:53,840 Speaker 1: if we can. 962 00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 2: Go right ahead, Pulty homes and resident a. 963 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 1: Trump floated the idea of a fifty year mortgage as 964 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 1: a way to make homes more affordable. And I want 965 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 1: to say right now, for the record, anyone who thinks 966 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,879 Speaker 1: a fifty year mortgage is a good idea. 967 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,359 Speaker 2: Is out of their minds. I disagree with you. Now, wait, 968 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 2: I hold in. I think Pulty Holmes think it's an 969 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 2: excellent idea. 970 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to stop somebody from getting a fifty 971 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,279 Speaker 1: year mortgage. 972 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,760 Speaker 2: I don't care if you get a two hundred year mortgage. 973 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is is that this is not the 974 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 1: way to engage a level of quote unquote affordability. That's 975 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 1: the problem. It doesn't solve a problem. And part of 976 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 1: the problem is if the only place you want to 977 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,840 Speaker 1: live is the place that has eight hundred thousand dollars 978 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 1: homes and you only make one hundred and thirty two 979 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year between the two of you, maybe 980 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 1: you can't afford that. If you have kids, maybe that's 981 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 1: the problem. Maybe if you are are the sole working 982 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: parent and you're making eighty five thousand dollars a year, 983 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 1: buying an eight hundred thousand dollars houses, out of the question, 984 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,399 Speaker 1: you can't afford to live there. And this has been 985 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,280 Speaker 1: a big, big argument on social media. 986 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,840 Speaker 2: See that's the problem. 987 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 1: We're not encouraging people because we're saying you're gonna have 988 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 1: to move somewhere else. 989 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 2: This is migratory one oh one. What the hell is 990 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:26,879 Speaker 2: wrong with everybody? 991 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 1: You can't live in New York City and that's what 992 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: created we hawk in. This is a maddening thing that's 993 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,959 Speaker 1: going on here. Fifty year mortgage. Maybe you shouldn't buy 994 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: that house to begin with? 995 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 2: Thank you? Are you looking up? We hawking? No? Actually 996 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 2: so the Starbucks coffee cup right, it's red and green? 997 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 2: Is it something I said? No, I listen, I completely 998 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 2: agree with you. The other thing that we need to 999 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,879 Speaker 2: have a discussion about that we don't have time for 1000 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 2: is the kind except of a starter home, and that 1001 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 2: a starter home doesn't necessarily have to be four thousand 1002 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:05,439 Speaker 2: square feet. 1003 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, your house doesn't have to have granite lemony 1004 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 1: is fine. 1005 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:17,280 Speaker 2: Shut up, eat, drink. 1006 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 1: Smoke in your cigar, bourbon, footy extravaganzam tony katz. That 1007 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 1: is fingers awy. We are smoking from La Aurora? The 1008 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: was it the one o three Cameroon right there? 1009 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 2: I think it's called the one. 1010 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 1: O three nineteen oh six. It's the nineteen oh three, 1011 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 1: nineteen oh three, the nineteen oh three. Sorry, this is 1012 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,879 Speaker 1: the Cameroon wrapper five and three quarters by fifty four 1013 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:44,280 Speaker 1: seven dollars a stick. Yes, please, it's a very nice cigar. 1014 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I I would argue that it could very 1015 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,839 Speaker 2: easily be an everyday cigar for a lot of people. Yeah. Uh. 1016 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 1: The spice is definitely there. The uh there. There is 1017 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 1: a little a bit a of a cream undertow. There 1018 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 1: is a little bit, as I said, of leather going 1019 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,839 Speaker 1: on with this as well. Oddly though, it is a 1020 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 1: touch monotone that isn't necessarily bad if you're expecting big changes. 1021 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,400 Speaker 1: As we're now into the second third of the cigar 1022 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 1: that I'm not getting. They say it's a medium. It 1023 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,879 Speaker 1: plays much fuller for me than a medium. But it's 1024 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 1: just easy, it's just nice. You're like, this is good, 1025 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 1: this is good. Seven bucks sold, done, complete, and there's 1026 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities for this cigar. 1027 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 2: But we are drinking the Burning Chair Bourbon. 1028 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:45,319 Speaker 1: This is a four year bourbon, eighty eight proof, forty 1029 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 1: four percent. 1030 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:46,800 Speaker 2: Alcohol by volume. 1031 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 1: And I have some I'd say, you know, it's fresh. 1032 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 1: I have some rocks right here. 1033 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 2: I'm throwing mine right on the rocks. Now. 1034 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 1: It's water, right, water brings down proof water can open 1035 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 1: it up right, some flavors more pronounced, some more deluded. 1036 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 1: Fingers is added a little bit of water to his 1037 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 1: right there, it will change the complexion of your bourbon. 1038 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,319 Speaker 1: It's a whole different experience. I got a lot of 1039 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: heat out of this. I got painful heat in the 1040 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,919 Speaker 1: lower chest out of this. I thought it was hospital time. 1041 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 1: But the finish was spectacular. I almost want to say 1042 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 1: marshmallowy like it. It was vanilla, and then it moved 1043 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 1: at the marshmallow and it had that sweetness, had a 1044 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 1: little bit oak. 1045 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 2: It was a nice finish. Fingers. It makes me wonder, 1046 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,920 Speaker 2: do you would you like to see it in a milkshake. 1047 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,600 Speaker 2: I want to see everything in a milkshake. So there's that. 1048 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 2: If I put this on some cubes, I'm going in. 1049 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 2: He's going back in. Ladies and gentlemen, let's hope that 1050 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 2: he does not once again end up in the fetal 1051 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 2: position doing the Memphis munch the sagon. I swish he 1052 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 2: looks better. He doesn't look like he's in pain. That's good. 1053 00:57:53,760 --> 00:58:00,080 Speaker 2: That's always a good sign. Yeah, that that heat in 1054 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 2: the lower chest is gone. You actually have something on 1055 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 2: the on the palette. 1056 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: That is sweet. Right, it's a it's but it's not 1057 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,439 Speaker 1: a wine sweet. Right, this is finished and wine right? Yes, uh, 1058 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,280 Speaker 1: this is this is brown sugar sweet. A little bit 1059 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 1: of oak undercurrent right there, a little bit of you 1060 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 1: know that that well, the marshmallow vanilla's kind of dissipated 1061 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 1: a bit with the cube, but there is now now 1062 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: there's the heat and the finish. Hey, how you doing? 1063 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 1: Oh how's your mother? 1064 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? Still fat? Great? Wow, that's amazing. Wow are you 1065 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 2: just dad proof? Are you just having a day? Is 1066 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 2: that what this is? Oh my, oh my god? Did 1067 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 2: you get today? Are you sweating? No? Sweating? 1068 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's just right there. I took two SIPs 1069 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 1: radiating to my ears. My ears are hot? 1070 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 2: Why, I don't know. I'm checking my pulse. Ok No, 1071 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 2: I'm wow. That's crazy. It's a nice bit of flavor. 1072 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 1: Fingers is going in adding just a little bit of 1073 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 1: water to his glass right there? What say you on 1074 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 1: this burning chair? Bourbon whiskey? See to me it It 1075 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 1: brought out a little bit more spice. Okay, that kind 1076 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 1: of red that red wine is still there. I got 1077 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,959 Speaker 1: more of a caramel, you're getting more of vanilla, brown 1078 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: sugar that's fine. 1079 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:36,760 Speaker 2: There's a lot of oak there. It to me is 1080 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 2: not overly sweet. It's sweet. I'm enjoying it. I think 1081 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 2: it's I think I like it better neat. 1082 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:55,360 Speaker 1: So, fingers, you purchased this just the other day, Fingers boy, 1083 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,280 Speaker 1: is this in your liquor cabinet? 1084 00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 2: What did this cause? Fifty four nine? Oh? 1085 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 1: And for me, the answer is yes, yeah, oh wow 1086 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 1: right there, huh any higher, it's a definite no. 1087 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,959 Speaker 2: So if it were fifty five dollars. 1088 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah yeah. By the way, they stopped. They discontinued 1089 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 1: the penny. The last penny rolled off the mint in 1090 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 1: Philadelphia this week. You could still use pennies, but they're 1091 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 1: not making any more pennies because a penny costs four 1092 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 1: cents to make. Oh gosh, well, I think based on 1093 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 1: people being able to say to me, Tony, I had 1094 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 1: the burning chair bourbon and you're just a giant whimp, 1095 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 1: I think it's a yes. 1096 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a yes. Yeah. I 1097 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 2: could see people doing it. I could see people. 1098 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,560 Speaker 1: Why it's hitting me the way it is, I can't 1099 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,800 Speaker 1: I can't well answer. But there's flavor there there, there's 1100 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 1: there's something there it's it's not perfectly my my flavor profile, 1101 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 1: as I often discussed, but I can see it. 1102 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 2: I can see this happening in people's lives. I think 1103 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 2: it brings a lot to the table. I think that 1104 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 2: it's unique. You know, you just don't see this everywhere 1105 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 2: for those reasons, and the price point, because we have 1106 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,439 Speaker 2: to re examine what we're spending on everything. I think 1107 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 2: for me, this is in the liquor cabinet. 1108 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:25,919 Speaker 1: The burning a chair, bourbon right there. Check it out 1109 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 1: for yourself. It's time, Fingers below way for news of 1110 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 1: the week. 1111 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 2: Let's stick with the housing theme, shall we tell me? 1112 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 1: By the way, we had a very interesting conversation about how, yes, 1113 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm accurate in the people expect too much, have too 1114 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 1: many demands as first time home buyers. Fingers made the argument, 1115 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:51,560 Speaker 1: and he's accurate that if we're building houses of three 1116 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,760 Speaker 1: thousand plus square feet, if we're building houses because people, 1117 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 1: the builder wants to maximize profit, which I don't oppose, 1118 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,120 Speaker 1: and so therefore you're in the five seven hundred thousands. 1119 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 1: Never mind what land costs are. Where is the starter home? 1120 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 1: Where does one get a start? That is a real argument. 1121 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 1: I don't want that dismissed. From what you said, Fingers, 1122 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 1: it makes sense and it's worthy of discussion. I would 1123 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:19,439 Speaker 1: go back to where these houses being built and what 1124 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,440 Speaker 1: willingness do people have to start their lives in a 1125 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,240 Speaker 1: place where maybe they didn't know they would be, but 1126 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 1: that's the place they can afford to start their lives. 1127 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,680 Speaker 1: Do you think that if they weren't building all of 1128 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 1: those same exact kinds of houses. 1129 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,920 Speaker 2: In Levittown, you know, on Long Islands. 1130 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 1: Right that style of house, they would have then gone 1131 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 1: to the houses in Jersey, or gone to the houses 1132 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 1: in Connecticut, or or somewhere else where this was happening 1133 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 1: where the housing was affordable to do. 1134 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:47,440 Speaker 2: So. 1135 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 1: I do think that comes into play that people need 1136 01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 1: to think about where they can be to start their 1137 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 1: lives in that regard, not where they think they must 1138 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,280 Speaker 1: be or demand to be. But your point is well taken. 1139 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 1: If you are creating things that allow somebody who's just 1140 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,040 Speaker 1: starting out their lives. 1141 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,360 Speaker 2: To move into they had no place to move into. Yeah, 1142 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 2: and you may see a re examination of people deciding 1143 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 2: where they're going to live based on the fact that 1144 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,960 Speaker 2: many people can now work remotely and they may be 1145 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 2: able to move to smaller towns away from the big 1146 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,120 Speaker 2: city or into the country, and there may be a 1147 01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 2: move out of the city. But what I was going 1148 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:26,960 Speaker 2: to bring up a news of the week is the 1149 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:32,280 Speaker 2: Daily Mail has the story foreclosure. Foreclosures surge twenty percent 1150 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,080 Speaker 2: as Americans struggle to pay their mortgage and there are 1151 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,520 Speaker 2: fears of a two thousand and eight style crash. Now 1152 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 2: we've been hearing this for a while, right that there's 1153 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,960 Speaker 2: a watch out for the real estate crash, it's going 1154 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,720 Speaker 2: to happen. I think what were people need to be 1155 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 2: concerned about a real estate crash is in the commercial 1156 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 2: real estate market. 1157 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 1: So there's a real question why that hasn't happened already 1158 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 1: when you talk about people not in the offices. Although 1159 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 1: a lot of companies have ordered people back to the offices, 1160 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,520 Speaker 1: but they're also companies that have shed employees. 1161 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. We're not yet in the place where. 1162 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 1: That real estate, the commercial real estate settles out a 1163 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 1: shakes out. But I agree with you, it has not come, 1164 01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 1: although it has been rumored for a while. 1165 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's going to be interesting to see how 1166 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 2: as inflation continues to grip the economy, how it affects 1167 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 2: real estate. You know, as property taxes increase, as homeowner's 1168 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 2: insurance increases, are we going to see more of these 1169 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 2: foreclosures moving forward? It's something to keep an eye on. Well. 1170 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,640 Speaker 1: Certainly if we see large scale layoffs like Amazon and 1171 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,320 Speaker 1: ups in favor of AI and I don't know if 1172 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:49,000 Speaker 1: that's even going to work out for them, Yeah, we 1173 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,080 Speaker 1: could have further bad things on the horizon. 1174 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 2: So thanks for reading the good news, Shalla La lat. 1175 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 1: Only half the homes in America have cable fingers one really, 1176 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 1: that's a true story. 1177 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:08,600 Speaker 2: I get all my TV via closed circuit Tea, Drink 1178 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,959 Speaker 2: smoke come Tony Katz. That is fingers below. 1179 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,240 Speaker 1: I find everything at Eat, Drinks, Smoke, show dot com. 1180 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:19,240 Speaker 1: Only half the homes in America have cable TV. But 1181 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:23,560 Speaker 1: the when you take a look at streaming services and 1182 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,920 Speaker 1: you add that price together, you might as well have 1183 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 1: cable TV. If you took the seven most popular right, 1184 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,920 Speaker 1: your your Netflix, your Hulu, your Disney plus, your Apple TV, 1185 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,520 Speaker 1: you got your you got your Peacock there, you got 1186 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 1: your Paramount plus and a missing a missing one. Let's 1187 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,440 Speaker 1: say I'm missing one. I had done the math on 1188 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:50,720 Speaker 1: the basic plans, the cheapest plan seventy two dollars. That's 1189 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,560 Speaker 1: what you're paying a month, and nobody has the cheapest plans. 1190 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:57,200 Speaker 1: So and people have every streaming service under the sun, 1191 01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,520 Speaker 1: and they're paying one hundred bucks. And there's a story 1192 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal about how streaming services have 1193 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,320 Speaker 1: gone up, and Disney is up one hundred and seventy 1194 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:10,040 Speaker 1: three percent in cost from where it started. But in 1195 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,919 Speaker 1: the end everything is really in that seventeen to twenty 1196 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 1: five dollars category. There are like paramount plus you can 1197 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,480 Speaker 1: get for twelve dollars right, that's twelve dollars month, twelve 1198 01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 1: ninety nine a month. 1199 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 2: But those will eventually go up. 1200 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,520 Speaker 1: People are paying the max for as few commercials as 1201 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,240 Speaker 1: possible in some extra added features. 1202 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 2: It's just as expensive as cable. Why is it better? Well, 1203 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,360 Speaker 2: I will say that isn't this what we asked for for? 1204 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,160 Speaker 2: You know, twenty thirty years ago, we were screaming at 1205 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 2: cable companies to give us an a La Kart service 1206 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,640 Speaker 2: where instead of having to get a big package of 1207 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,080 Speaker 2: a cable service that included channels that we weren't going 1208 01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:53,360 Speaker 2: to watch, that you can pick and choose your channels. Well, 1209 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 2: now you have an option of choosing this streaming service here, 1210 01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 2: the streaming service over there. There you can get by 1211 01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 2: with very little invested in your entertainment if you're willing 1212 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:11,440 Speaker 2: to not if you're willing to miss out on every 1213 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 2: hot new TV show on the planet. Right, I mean, 1214 01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,960 Speaker 2: you can get on Pluto TV. It's free and there 1215 01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:22,160 Speaker 2: are hundreds of stations on there now. Some of the 1216 01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,560 Speaker 2: channels and the content maybe a little long in the tooth. 1217 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,120 Speaker 2: Ask that you know one of the stations that I 1218 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 2: will tune into from time to time. And you and 1219 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,280 Speaker 2: I have talked about how we both were big fans 1220 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 2: of Johnny Carson. There's a Johnny Carson channel. Yes, there 1221 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:45,840 Speaker 2: are old you know, the Andy Griffith Show channel. But 1222 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 2: there are free options out there as well. So you know, 1223 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 2: while I do agree that cable has gotten out of control, 1224 01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,920 Speaker 2: there are options out there that you can You can 1225 01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,800 Speaker 2: stretch your entertainment dollar and not break the budget. 1226 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,960 Speaker 1: And if you're going to be watching Johnny Carson channel, 1227 01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,480 Speaker 1: do it while eating a steak from Defiancebeef dot Com. 1228 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:09,360 Speaker 1: I know, so cheesy, but the steaks are so good. 1229 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 1: We made the meatballs with the ground beef this week. 1230 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely spectacular. I did the chuck roasts after a marinade. 1231 01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,400 Speaker 1: Fantastic Defiance Beef is right here in Indiana and it 1232 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 1: stakes directly to your door. You go to Defiance Beef 1233 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,680 Speaker 1: dot Com use promo code Eat Drink Smoke, and you're 1234 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,120 Speaker 1: gonna get one hundred and fifty dollars off your order 1235 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,360 Speaker 1: right there, and then everything is aged twenty one days, 1236 01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 1: incredible tenderness, incredible beef flavor. 1237 01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:36,960 Speaker 2: And then they'll call you be like, Okay, what do 1238 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:37,320 Speaker 2: you want? 1239 01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,200 Speaker 1: And depending on whether you ordered a quarter cow I 1240 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,639 Speaker 1: have cow or an entire cow, well that's how many 1241 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,760 Speaker 1: strips you're gonna get, and how many ribbis you're gonna 1242 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 1: get in how many tender loins, on what size of 1243 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,400 Speaker 1: brisket and everything else. You can decide the thickness all 1244 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,040 Speaker 1: of it. Well, at the Soup Bones Boom, they'll send 1245 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,759 Speaker 1: the soup Bones Defiance Beef right here in Indiana, delivered 1246 01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,439 Speaker 1: directly to your door, frozen, ready to go right into 1247 01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:01,160 Speaker 1: the chest freezer, and then incredible on the grill. 1248 01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:02,519 Speaker 2: You're going to love it. 1249 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:06,480 Speaker 1: Go to Defiance Beef e f I a nce Defiancebeef 1250 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,920 Speaker 1: dot Com. Use promo code Eat Drink Smoke and get 1251 01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,320 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty dollars off your order. Truly incredible, 1252 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:17,799 Speaker 1: and I think the next slots book by December fourth, 1253 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,560 Speaker 1: So you want to make that happen. I know I 1254 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,639 Speaker 1: don't want to date the podcast or anything like that, 1255 01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,439 Speaker 1: but you'll go to Defiance Beef, you'll see when it's 1256 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 1: available and then boom, so easy to do Defiance. 1257 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:29,240 Speaker 2: Beef dot com. 1258 01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:33,479 Speaker 1: I'm saying about the cable half the people have cable. 1259 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,439 Speaker 1: How many of that group have it because wherever they 1260 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,280 Speaker 1: rent from, the cable comes with it. 1261 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,040 Speaker 2: The basic cable is just part of the deal. That's 1262 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:47,680 Speaker 2: very possible. I also think that another segment of the 1263 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:53,840 Speaker 2: cable purchasing customer is seasoned citizens like a finger Smoly 1264 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,519 Speaker 2: senior that wants his cable TV. He wants a cable box, 1265 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,240 Speaker 2: he wants to be able to switch the chance, and 1266 01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,360 Speaker 2: he doesn't want to go to fifteen different apps to 1267 01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:01,200 Speaker 2: get as entertainment. 1268 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,439 Speaker 1: I think that's very true as well. It's what you're 1269 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,519 Speaker 1: used to, it's what you're comfortable with, and you're not 1270 01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:10,240 Speaker 1: buying into some television or really it's not television, it's 1271 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:14,719 Speaker 1: content trends right the the the the big giant screen 1272 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 1: that sits in your living room is nothing more than 1273 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,880 Speaker 1: a content delivery device. It's the screen, that's all it is, 1274 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,200 Speaker 1: and everything else is the app to which you are 1275 01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:26,679 Speaker 1: getting getting that content. I there was a moment there 1276 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,599 Speaker 1: where everything that all this content that was being created 1277 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:34,400 Speaker 1: for TV was incredible. It was like a golden age 1278 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,080 Speaker 1: of television. I don't know if we're there anymore. Do 1279 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,479 Speaker 1: you think that that we're still in a place. I mean, 1280 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,719 Speaker 1: there's a stuff Taylor Sheridan is doing with like Landman 1281 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 1: and some of those shows are we are we in 1282 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,080 Speaker 1: a place of spectacular TV? And I could buy the 1283 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,559 Speaker 1: way I can point to good television shows. The the 1284 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 1: a fanfare around things like Severance for example, right gets 1285 01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:56,639 Speaker 1: people very very excited. 1286 01:10:56,720 --> 01:11:00,719 Speaker 2: I have just sat down and watched a new television show. 1287 01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:04,920 Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm binge watching. It's called The Crown. It's 1288 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:09,080 Speaker 2: brand new. It just came out. People are really really 1289 01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,360 Speaker 2: into it. 1290 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:15,400 Speaker 1: It didn't just come out. Oh and how how did 1291 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,519 Speaker 1: missus molloy sucker you into this? 1292 01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:24,120 Speaker 2: She didn't. I wanted to watch it only because I've 1293 01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:29,599 Speaker 2: seen several clips online through the instagrams there. Uh, and 1294 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,640 Speaker 2: it was all of John Lithgow playing Winston Churchill, and 1295 01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,559 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, there's a lot of Churchhill in this. 1296 01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 2: I'm I'm a middle aged man. I'm into Churchill, so 1297 01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,200 Speaker 2: I want to watch this show. You know what I'm 1298 01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,839 Speaker 2: finding out little of it has to do with Winston Churchill. 1299 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,600 Speaker 2: That's shocking, shocking. 1300 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,680 Speaker 1: I say, you want something that's shocking, We said we 1301 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:52,280 Speaker 1: would do it. 1302 01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:54,839 Speaker 2: Fingers Maloy, what did you eat today? 1303 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:59,000 Speaker 1: As you well know, Fingers Maloy has the worst diet 1304 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,400 Speaker 1: in the history of man. If it doesn't come from 1305 01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,559 Speaker 1: a convenience door or a gas station, Fingers will I says, 1306 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't touch that stuff. And today he said, you 1307 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,719 Speaker 1: don't want to know what I had today? So okay, 1308 01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,680 Speaker 1: now I want to know Fingers is going to tell 1309 01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,320 Speaker 1: us what he ate today, and then we will ask 1310 01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,519 Speaker 1: the age old question, Fingers Willy, how are you still alive? 1311 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,880 Speaker 2: Fingers what did you eat today? Well? I started out 1312 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 2: the morning at a gas station. What and this gas 1313 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:29,839 Speaker 2: station has breakfast sandwiches, pre made sausage, egg and cheese biscuit. 1314 01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:33,600 Speaker 2: Oh that sounds the life. And right next to the 1315 01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:37,800 Speaker 2: sandwiches there's a little tiny compartment with windows that you 1316 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:39,519 Speaker 2: open up and they have donuts in them. I believe 1317 01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:43,519 Speaker 2: they're called doors. Oh wow, what did I say? Windows? Windows? 1318 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:49,040 Speaker 2: But the windows with handles doors? And in that they 1319 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,160 Speaker 2: had the donuts. And so I got one of those 1320 01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,960 Speaker 2: chocolate covered Long John's with the creamy filling in the 1321 01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 2: middle and the breakfast sandwich. Yes, and I chased it 1322 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,760 Speaker 2: with a forty four ounce diet coke. That was breakfast. 1323 01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:10,240 Speaker 2: For lunch, I had a missus Fresh Lea's honey bun 1324 01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:16,320 Speaker 2: not frosted, and a and a Pepsi zero. And then 1325 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,320 Speaker 2: on my way to eat drink Smoke Studios, I had 1326 01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:24,559 Speaker 2: a big Mac with a medium fry, a diet coke 1327 01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:30,519 Speaker 2: and a holiday pie. Holiday pie? Is that real? Yes? 1328 01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,240 Speaker 2: You've never had a holiday pie from McDonald's. You know what. 1329 01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,519 Speaker 2: I don't have the time to get into it now. 1330 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,920 Speaker 1: We asked the question that has confused scientists for eons. 1331 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:45,280 Speaker 2: Fingers, myloy, how are you still alive? I did two 1332 01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,640 Speaker 2: burpies this afternoon. I feel fantastic. 1333 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,719 Speaker 1: That is I I had a salad. 1334 01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,280 Speaker 2: What is happening? We need to get your holiday pie? 1335 01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,400 Speaker 1: Clearly, we need to get me a holiday pie smoking 1336 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,600 Speaker 1: from law or a nineteen oh three cameroon five and 1337 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,400 Speaker 1: three quarter by fifty four seven dollars a stick. 1338 01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:07,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, all day. It's a nice cigar. 1339 01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,640 Speaker 1: It is worthwhile to have a few of those in 1340 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:15,040 Speaker 1: the humid or the burning chair. Bourbon right here coming 1341 01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,719 Speaker 1: in at fifty four dollars at ninety nine cents a bottle, 1342 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 1: Finger says yes, I'd say probably in the liquor cabinet 1343 01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:26,519 Speaker 1: for a lot of people. Try it yourself. Just threw 1344 01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,080 Speaker 1: off a lot of heat to me. 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