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Speaker 1: This is the Kenny Kasey Show. My name is Craig Collins.

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Speaker 1: The audio may have changed as I'm on a phone

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Speaker 1: line with some power issues where I'm broadcasting from. But

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Speaker 1: Darna dead doesn't matter. We got Ryan Hendrick talking about

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Speaker 1: the Vice president. Ryan, how do you knowing, buddy?

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Speaker 2: Are you Craig.

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Speaker 1: Good? Good, real good? Dadie Vance in Indianapolis. He wants

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Speaker 1: to read district all of India or all of Indiana.

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Speaker 1: What do you got?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So, I mean seven of the nine congressional seats

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Speaker 2: are already read right like, we are the reddest of

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Speaker 2: the red in the country, one of the most redded states,

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Speaker 2: maybe the redit state in the country. But Republicans from

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Speaker 2: the Trump administration have been pushing this.

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Speaker 1: And JD.

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Speaker 2: Vance was in Indiana in August and there are a

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Speaker 2: lot of interesting looking protesters outside the state House right now.

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Speaker 2: I just jogged over, which the station is like five

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Speaker 2: minutes from the state House. So I jogged over between

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Speaker 2: the nine and nine thirty news cast to see what

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Speaker 2: I can see and I met two people in Craig,

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Speaker 2: this is crazy. They are They dragged a couch out

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Speaker 2: of their truck. They got here at six in the morning,

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Speaker 2: they dragged a couch out of their trunk. They're parked

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Speaker 2: right in front of the state House, and here's what

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Speaker 2: they had to say.

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Cassie Jackson, wormed out downtown in front

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Speaker 1: of the State House in Indianapolis, Indiana. We have the

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Speaker 1: Vice President jd Vance coming and we wanted to bring a.

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Speaker 3: Little gift from him for him.

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Speaker 1: We know he loves couches. Here's our tag, you know,

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Speaker 1: from Antifa, because I know he loves Antifa as well,

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Speaker 1: and he wanted to make him feel comfortable. Also going

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Speaker 1: to be gifting it to him if he'd like to

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Speaker 1: take it home at en.

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Speaker 3: My name's Mishal Mandrou from Anderson, Indiana. I'm down here

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Speaker 3: with Katherine here to protests to rediser king. We're not

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Speaker 3: gonna stand for tipping the scales that Republicans can maintain power.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so a special session, this is what people were

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Speaker 2: freaking out about. Craig special session would cost taxpayers in

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Speaker 2: Indiana about one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So Governor

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Speaker 2: Braun at first, according to my reporting, didn't seem too

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Speaker 2: keen on this, and then something changed in like the

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Speaker 2: past month where he was like Okay, well, everybody else

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Speaker 2: is talking about it, so we're going to start talking

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Speaker 2: about it as well. So the challenge is you're getting

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Speaker 2: people to a special session and there's only a there's

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Speaker 2: a really small window to do this right. You don't

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Speaker 2: have much time to get everybody in, to count the votes,

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Speaker 2: to get everybody on the same side. So it's going

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Speaker 2: to be a challenge, to say the least. But I

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Speaker 2: think it's interesting in the middle or not in the middle.

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Speaker 2: At the beginning of a government shutdown, we're like, what

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Speaker 2: ten days in So they're going to bring Air Force

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Speaker 2: two to Indianapolis and it's probably arriving here in a

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Speaker 2: couple of minutes, and Jade Vance is going to spend

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Speaker 2: you know, a few hours talking to Republican leadership here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so a couple things Ryan in reaction to everything. First,

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Speaker 1: your job is incredible and your commitment to your job

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Speaker 1: is incredible because you decided to go to the State House.

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Speaker 1: And then you saw two people setting up a couch

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Speaker 1: that seem like they're crazy and they're like this SoundBite.

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Speaker 1: We got to talk to these people. We got to

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Speaker 1: know what they think. Do you have anything that you

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Speaker 1: left in the cutting room floor, Like, is there a

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Speaker 1: bunch of stuff? They said, They're like, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to use that, can't use that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean they had they did have some choice

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Speaker 2: words for Rob Kendall off Mike. They this woman, her

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Speaker 2: name's Cass Jackson, and I think the Indie reporter retweeted this,

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Speaker 2: and she is no fan of Lieutenant Governor Micah beck With,

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Speaker 2: and Rob isn't. I'm not going to put words in

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Speaker 2: his mouth, but he's been outspoken against Lieutenant Governor beck With.

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Speaker 2: But she had some choice words for Rob Kendall in casey,

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Speaker 2: not a fan of theirs, not a fan of wibc's.

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Speaker 2: Although she does listen. Okay, yeah, she listens, so that's

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Speaker 2: that's a good thing. We ever pointed in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's nice. I think that the people who

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Speaker 1: for us. We want the audience, so that's awesome. The

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Speaker 1: other thing, I just love the fact that you decided,

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Speaker 1: like you know, in between a half hour, that you're

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Speaker 1: by just to see You didn't know that there were

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Speaker 1: going to be some people setting up with a couch

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Speaker 1: and can I also complain about the laziness of the

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Speaker 1: but still, if you're protesting, I think you got to stand.

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Speaker 1: I think that's one of the first things in the

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Speaker 1: as far as protesters go because they're lazying this whole

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Speaker 2: And they actually, I mean, I don't know if they're

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Speaker 2: actual Antifa members because I've been attacked by Antifa. Maybe

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Speaker 2: that's a different segment for later, but wow, they are

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Speaker 2: dressed like Antifa. So they told me that they're going

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Speaker 2: to have a more formal protest at noon to talk

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Speaker 2: about this. And I want to point out that in

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Speaker 2: twenty two, the governor, so the governor and Indiana is

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Speaker 2: the only one empowered to call a special session. So

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Speaker 2: there was like a two week special session in Indiana

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Speaker 2: I think in twenty two that cost taxpayers almost a

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Speaker 2: this that's so contentious. Craig is like people that are

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Speaker 2: fiscally conservative are like, no, I don't want to call

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Speaker 2: a special session. Just leave the voting maps the way

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Speaker 2: they are, They're already dominating. Republicans are already dominating the stage.

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Speaker 2: Just leave it that way.

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Speaker 1: No, I get it. I get the whole saving money thing,

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Speaker 1: and I get anybody that wants to you know, And

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Speaker 1: I guess, real quick, if you don't mind having a

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Speaker 1: conversation about the redistricting stuff itself, I actually live in Texas,

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Speaker 1: so we started it. You're welcome as far as that

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Speaker 1: all goes. It's our fault, not anybody else's. But I

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Speaker 1: guess the thing that I've seen from jump is that

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Speaker 1: Democrats have done an incredibly good job of gerrymandering the

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Speaker 1: crap out of very democratic places like Illinois or California

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Speaker 1: up on television and while he's trying to attack Trump,

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Speaker 1: can't seem to justify the ridiculousness of the map in

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Speaker 1: Illinois and what it looks like. But they do it

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Speaker 1: every ten years, They do it every every chance that

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Speaker 1: they think is appropriate. It feels as though Republicans are

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Speaker 1: trying to fight fire with fire, and maybe haven't done

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Speaker 1: this as well in the past as they thought they could. Now. Granted,

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Speaker 1: Indiana is a tough place to choose because of how

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Speaker 1: red the state already is. But I just wonder if

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Speaker 1: that's a component that might make people say, well, if

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Speaker 1: we're trying to fight a system that's already been rigged

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Speaker 1: against us by playing the same game. Not that Republicans

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Speaker 1: if that gets you over the hurdle of just not

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Speaker 1: wanting to see it happen, and especially if it works.

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Speaker 1: The other thing that I think would be terrible is

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Speaker 1: to spend a bunch of money and not have it work,

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Speaker 1: because people do still have to show up and vote places,

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Speaker 1: and there are times where voting doesn't go the way

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Speaker 1: and it would be bad to spend money and lose. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on that? The fact that, yeah,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to litigate all this stuff. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to get all the votes. You're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: make sure you have the votes to get this stuff done,

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Speaker 2: and then you're gonna have to find judges that are

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Speaker 2: gonna have judges running interference. Another thing about the redistricting

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Speaker 2: in Texas and California. I lived in California for twenty

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Speaker 2: the voting maps there. I mean, you'll never get Republicans.

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Speaker 2: You'll probably get another Republican governor ever again. And every

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Speaker 2: election cycle, every census that comes out California just finds

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Speaker 2: more ways to tighten the Democrat leash. And they had

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Speaker 2: the whole state jerrymandard in their favorites. So other states

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Speaker 2: do this. I think it's a dog and pony show.

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Speaker 2: Anytime people say you can't have Indiana strict, you know

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Speaker 2: It should happen if the Republicans are in charge, we

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, mostly because as you said, and it's funny

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Speaker 1: Illinois for as long as I did. Because yes, those

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Speaker 1: So why not fight that way? I wonder if that's

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Speaker 1: what Jade Vance will say. I doubt it. He's more

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Speaker 1: eloquent than I am about this stuff. You mentioned something

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Speaker 1: of the listeners have been asking themselves this question since

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Speaker 1: you said it you were attacked by Antifa. Yeah, where

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Speaker 1: we could put on another show. I got time, buddy,

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Speaker 1: if you want to talk about Like, what have you

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Speaker 1: told this story before in WIBC.

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Speaker 2: No, I have not told it on WIBC. It's the

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Speaker 2: opportunity has never come up. So back in twenty one,

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Speaker 2: about social justice. So I went out there, and you know,

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Speaker 2: they were dressed in black, they had a black umbrellas,

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Speaker 2: And I was standing between the council member's house and

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Speaker 2: So I just snatched one of the umbrellas from their

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Speaker 2: that if you google Ryan Hedrick from WFMD Radio attacked

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Speaker 2: sure it got the attention of Andy no who's a

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Speaker 2: And I thought the guy that rushed me had on

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's I'm horror. I'm first I feel horrible that

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Speaker 1: is amazing to hear you say that the reason that

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Speaker 1: why do you think that they tried to harm you

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Speaker 1: in the first place.

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Speaker 2: I think I did that because I snatched the umbrella

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Speaker 2: big problem in Portland, Oregon right now that not a

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Speaker 1: No, I agree with you that it's a very very

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Speaker 1: big problem. Matt. It's surreal to hear you describe in

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Speaker 1: well you know organizes it seemed to be because it

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Speaker 1: And also I'm kind of impressed that you ran out

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Speaker 1: it's screw it, let's go see.

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Speaker 2: Well you could you could follow on X. I posted

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Speaker 2: it on the X account, and I think we're going

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Speaker 2: Instagram and Facebook. But yeah, check it out. I have

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Speaker 2: to go get ready for my ten o'clock newscast. Craig,

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Speaker 2: good chatting with you.

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