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Speaker 1: little college football. Nicole, Happy weekend. How are you.

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Speaker 3: Cannot believe only two weeks left of the regular season.

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Speaker 1: You know, I say this every year and Nicole like

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Speaker 3: So it certainly did not like coming into the year

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Speaker 1: That's the voice of Nicole Auerbach from NBC my guest

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. We do exactly that on the Java

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Speaker 1: There are obviously at this point, twelve remaining teams amongst

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Speaker 4: I think if Brownsburg has to line up and run

438
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Speaker 4: the ball, they can do it. I think that's going

439
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Speaker 4: to be you know, and I think Warren, you know,

440
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Speaker 4: that's kind of what they want to play off of

441
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,119
Speaker 4: a little bit too. So you know, I think it's

442
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 4: two teams that are equipped to you know, they want

443
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Speaker 4: to both you know, kind of use their their weapons

444
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 4: in space. But I think teams that will can run

445
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 4: and we'll try to run, you know, especially pending the

446
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Speaker 4: weather tonight.

447
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Speaker 1: Okay, the other side of it in six A Westfield

448
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 1: obviously locally, but now they've got Carol out of Fort Wayne.

449
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Speaker 1: What sort of match up do does Westfield find themselves

450
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Speaker 1: getting into.

451
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I got some word this morning that it

452
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 4: sounds like Deacon King, the Westfield running back who you know,

453
00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 4: he had an ankle sprain and has only been playing

454
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 4: mostly safety here lately, but it sounds like he's going

455
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 4: back to running back tonight. So that's a good sign

456
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 4: for a Westfield going into that big game. Carol is

457
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 4: more of a and if you notice, you know, Carol,

458
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 4: they made it to the state finals four years ago.

459
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Speaker 4: They upset the HS to get there, who are ranked

460
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Speaker 4: number one in this in this same round, in the

461
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Speaker 4: semi state round, so they do have some experience, you

462
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 4: know in games like this, although you know it's been

463
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 4: four years ago, but at least you know, have a

464
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 4: little bit of tradition of doing that. In this round,

465
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,439
Speaker 4: they are more of a passing team. You know, they're

466
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 4: really going to want to try to throw it. Gabe

467
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 4: Rising or their quarterback as over three thousand yards passing,

468
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,919
Speaker 4: and you know, they have a receiver, Jaden van Pelt

469
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 4: who has caught you know, sixty six balls for almost

470
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 4: fourteen hundred yards, so he's a really good receiver. But

471
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Speaker 4: I think this, I think their style sort of plays

472
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Speaker 4: into Westfield's hands a little bit because they really get

473
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Speaker 4: after the quarterback. Alex Aaron Bolis is a really good

474
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 4: edge rusher going to Grand Valley State. And then you know,

475
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 4: like I said, Deacon King play safety. They have good

476
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 4: coverage guys, so you know, I think they're in pretty

477
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,880
Speaker 4: good shape here. I think it'll be kind of a

478
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Speaker 4: a Westfield hasn't really blown people out, so I think

479
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 4: it'll be a close game still, but I like Westfield

480
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 4: to get there. I think we could see a matchup

481
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Speaker 4: next week of the same matchup we had last year

482
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Speaker 4: in six A.

483
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Speaker 1: You know, the Kyle ned Rep is my guest from

484
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Stories on the Java House Peeling. Poor guest

485
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: line Kyle one of the stories. You know, we could

486
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: sit here and talk. Obviously Bloomington south of New Palin

487
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: five a New Pow. We know how good they are Offensively,

488
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 1: I think the best story in the state, and it's

489
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 1: obviously getting now even national traction, is that of Miles

490
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,959
Speaker 1: McLaughlin at Knox, who is trying to surpass Derrick Henry

491
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Speaker 1: for the most rushing yards in high school history nationally speaking.

492
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Speaker 1: And I guess a two part question, the first being

493
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Speaker 1: is he going to be able to accomplish that feat?

494
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Speaker 1: Let's say, if they were to lose to Fort Wayne

495
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: Lewis tonight, is he within average of being able to

496
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Speaker 1: get it? And then number two, what is next for him?

497
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Speaker 1: When you're talking about somebody with that sort of prolific efficiency.

498
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's fascinating. Dana is going to go

499
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Speaker 4: up and cover it for us, and I can't wait

500
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Speaker 4: to see what she ends up writing about or how

501
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 4: this game unfolds tonight. But you know, it's it's a

502
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 4: kind of and I had fun this week. We talked

503
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 4: to Josh Aaron and I one of our reporters, called

504
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Speaker 4: some coaches around the state just to ask about McLoughlin.

505
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 4: Why it's so hard to stop him, you know, because

506
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 4: really you know what they do on you know, you

507
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 4: watch it on film. And I went up the Knox

508
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 4: this year and talked to him and went to a practice,

509
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Speaker 4: and you know, it looks pretty simple. He takes the

510
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 4: handoff and he runs, you know, one way or another,

511
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 4: and kind of this is how he does it. It's

512
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 4: a little bit more intricate obviously than that, but but yeah,

513
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 4: I mean he's in range. I mean it's three sixty

514
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 4: four tonight. You know, he would have to hit three

515
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 4: sixty four to break the record, which sounds crazy, but

516
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 4: it's basically what he's been doing, you know, all season long.

517
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 4: So you know that number is attainable. Whether Lures allows

518
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 4: that to happen is another thing. You know, Louis has

519
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 4: a really good defensive line. You know, their seniors, they're

520
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 4: they're athletic guys up front. They're a little bit younger

521
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 4: on the offensive side, but they're but they are talented

522
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Speaker 4: on that side as well. Lewis's record it's kind of

523
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 4: like Cathedral. You know, they don't their record during the

524
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 4: season may not always look great, but it's because they

525
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Speaker 4: play six eight teams and you know, really good programs

526
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 4: in four Wayne every year, so they're they're better than

527
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 4: the record shows they're eight and five, but that's sort

528
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 4: of meaningless, you know. But yeah, I mean, you know,

529
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 4: talking to some coaches, they feel like this is kind

530
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 4: of a coin flip game, you know, So even if

531
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 4: he doesn't break it and knocks wins, you know, he

532
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 4: could break it next week if they make the state finals,

533
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 4: and that'd be obviously a cool story too. But I

534
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 4: don't have a good hand. You know, it's hard to know,

535
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 4: you know, how this matchup will go because there's not

536
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Speaker 4: a lot of you know, common opponents between the two

537
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 4: of them, so you know, you can't really go to

538
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 4: the comparison route. But he's gonna get his carries tonight

539
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 4: and that, you know, there's no doubt about that. And

540
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 4: he's a kid who seems to get stronger as the

541
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 4: game progresses, so you know that's another thing too. And

542
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 4: he may break a seventy yard er at some point.

543
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 4: So and then what's next for him. He got he

544
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 4: got offered by Ball State recently, you know, I know,

545
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 4: he went to South Dakota not too long ago. It's

546
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 4: sort of that level of what's looking at him right

547
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Speaker 4: now I know he was planning to get up to

548
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Speaker 4: one of the I want to say it was Central

549
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 4: Michigan also, so you know, sort of that level that's

550
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 4: been recruiting him, and obviously a lot of schools that

551
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 4: are smaller than that too. But yeah, I mean, you know,

552
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 4: and I don't know if he'll play offense or defense

553
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 4: in college. That's gonna get to be determined. He plays

554
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 4: defense for his Knox team as well, so he's going

555
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 4: both ways pretty much every night.

556
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Speaker 1: You know, the kle when you look at a guy

557
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: like that, you know, Brett Law, if we're gonna go

558
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: way back, I mean, you know, at Sheridan he had

559
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: prolific numbers. Obviously, Carson Steele we just talked about earlier,

560
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: had prolific numbers, and Steele, you know, worked his way.

561
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Speaker 1: I remember, you know, at ball State, and then when

562
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 1: he goes to UCLA, people like, oh really, and he

563
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: has over eight hundred yards And now, of course he's

564
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: still in the league. But guys like that, and I've

565
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: not seen McLoughlin play. I know that you've gone down

566
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: and talked to people that have. It would seem as

567
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: though he would be able to get an opportunity to

568
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 1: still be a good back in college because and you

569
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Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wraw in this, it's not necessarily

570
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: like a shiftiness and a breakaway speed that is as

571
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: his strongest suit as much as his vision and ability

572
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: to know and his stop and start ability to be

573
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: able to be patient, to wait for holes and then

574
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Speaker 1: go through them. And I think that kind of thing

575
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: can translate at the next level. Am I wrong?

576
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 3: No?

577
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 4: I think you're right on. I mean, and actually we

578
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 4: wrote about that. That was kind of the one thing

579
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 4: that kept coming up when you talk to people and

580
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 4: even watching him, you know, it's pretty obvious, like he's

581
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 4: about the most patient runner you can possibly be, and

582
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 4: that that kind of vision and feel, you know, is

583
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 4: hard to replicate even the Angola coach. He's like last

584
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 4: week our scouting quarterback. You know, when we started the week,

585
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 4: he was just slamming into the hole. I'm like, no,

586
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 4: you got to you gotta wait, like he does to

587
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 4: give us a good read on what we're looking at.

588
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 4: And you know, and he does that. He'll even ride

589
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 4: the the you know, the the running back, you know,

590
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 4: the fake hand off or if he does hand it off,

591
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 4: I mean, he'll just kind of ride and ride and

592
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 4: ride until the defense, you know, figures out what they're

593
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 4: going to do. You know. So he is just super

594
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 4: patient and you know, just just to really goes where

595
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 4: the defense allows him to go, you know, and that

596
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 4: that sort of you know, and their blocking scheme is

597
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 4: kind of like that too. They kind of push defenders

598
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 4: the direction they're already going in a lot of cases.

599
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 4: So that's, you know, in that simplified version. You know,

600
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 4: I'm not explaining it exactly right, but you know, he does.

601
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: He's he's really good at just kind of reading what's

602
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 4: there and taking what's there and then all of a

603
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 4: sudden he'll pop one for sixty yards. But but yeah,

604
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 4: I mean he's not a you know, he is a

605
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 4: good athlete. Definitely a good athlete's his leg, he's super strong,

606
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 4: he gets everything out of every run. I mean, he's

607
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 4: you know, and from all you know talking to him

608
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 4: and then talking to other people, he's he's, you know,

609
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 4: a really good kid, you know, talk to the coaches

610
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 4: after the game, and you know, a good, good sport

611
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 4: type of guy too, So that's that's good to hear

612
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 4: as well. But but yeah, he's just he's i think

613
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 4: he'll get a chance somewhere, you know, and it would

614
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 4: make sense to try him and running back, you know,

615
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 4: to see what he can do. He's not a quarterback,

616
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 4: but you could definitely try him and running back and

617
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 4: see see what that looks like.

618
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: Colen Edrip my guest from the Indianapolis Star. He is

619
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: on the Java House peeling poor guest line Kyle before

620
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: you go, as we transition now from football into basketball,

621
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Speaker 1: and I know that you know, this is the time

622
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Speaker 1: of year where you start having to kind of cross

623
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Speaker 1: over in both of those basketball standpoint. What's jumped out

624
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: at you as the things that you're most intrigued by

625
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: in the upcoming season, be it team, more player.

626
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Speaker 4: I mean, Luke Earl is probably the most interesting player

627
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 4: going into the year. I would say, as you know,

628
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 4: see if he can kind of replicate what he did

629
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Speaker 4: last year from Mount Vernon you know, going to Purdue,

630
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 4: so also seeing how he kind of progresses as a

631
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 4: point guard as he gets ready, you know, to go

632
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 4: play for Purdue the following year, you know, so we'll

633
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 4: get plenty of chances to see him play. They have

634
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 4: a really tough schedule. They play Fishers early in the year,

635
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 4: which is, you know, arguably the best team in the state.

636
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: I'm also really interested in Pike, you know, seeing Pike

637
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 4: and how they what they look like, they are, you know,

638
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 4: probably the best team that they've had here in a while,

639
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 4: you know, so, you know, but very tough sectional that

640
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 4: they'll have with with you know, several good teams in there,

641
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 4: you know, fighting against them, so you know, see if

642
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 4: they can break through. I think that'll be fun to

643
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 4: see their seven foot of Isaiah Hill and how he's improved. Yeah,

644
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 4: and then I would just say, you know, probably you

645
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 4: know what other teams outside of our area, like Crown Point,

646
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 4: like Silver Creek, you know what some of those teams

647
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 4: look like, and you know, kind of as we get

648
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 4: into the you know, there are a couple of good

649
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 4: events early in December and then later in the Hall

650
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 4: of Fame Classic, and you know, by that point you

651
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Speaker 4: have a pretty good handle. I would say on on

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Speaker 4: maybe who the at least some of the better teams

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Speaker 4: are and how things you know, kind of shake out

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Speaker 4: once we get into the second half of the.

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Speaker 1: Year, Town Indianapolis Star will have all of the coverage

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Speaker 1: again Westfield and Fort Wayne Carrol seven o'clock tonight. That's

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Speaker 1: six A Warren Central in Brownsburg that's the game where

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Speaker 1: Kyle will be in six A as well. I'm speaking

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Speaker 1: of the local teams here Bloomington south of newpal in

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Speaker 1: five A, four A Ron Colly taking on Heritage Hills,

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Speaker 1: and then in two A Brownstown Central and Lapel Class A.

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Speaker 1: Where is Pioneer by the way, Pioneer in South Adams

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Speaker 1: where I always get Clinton Prairie and those schools mixed

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Speaker 1: up with Pioneer. Where's Pioneers that north?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Pioneer is up by Logan'sport basically Okay, so yeah,

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Speaker 4: South Adams is over by Fort Wayne area.

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Speaker 1: And then South Putt and Mylin that's obviously in the

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Speaker 1: southeastern part of the state. Kyle appreciate the time as always, Man,

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Speaker 1: you bet, thanks Jake. As a matter of fact, we

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Speaker 1: us now, Kevin, let's get right to it. Health standpoint,

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00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, what do we know about the calf injury?

680
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: What's the latest and do we have an idea yet

681
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Speaker 1: on availability come Sunday?

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Speaker 5: So Daniel Jones will play. He will start on Sunday.

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00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 5: It is now being deemed a fibula injury, not a

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Speaker 5: calf injury. I guess initially when he expressed some discomfany

685
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 5: yesterday during practice, I guess it was initially thought in

686
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 5: the caf area and then they did some further evaluation

687
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 5: more in the fibula regions. So practice today fully and

688
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 5: the expectation is again he will start. It doesn't even

689
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 5: sound like they'll bring up Brett Ripping their third quarterback

690
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 5: right now. Often practice squad sometimes you see that for

691
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 5: kind of insurance purposes. But it sounds like Dani Jones

692
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 5: good to go, and Riley Leonard will continue to be

693
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Speaker 5: the backup.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm going to show magnets here fibula

695
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Speaker 1: and is that the shin do we know?

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00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of my general thought.

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Speaker 1: There's a there's there's a humorous. Do we know where

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Speaker 1: the humorous is? Is that the funny bone? That's the

699
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Speaker 1: that's the arm, right.

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Speaker 5: The biggest bone in the human body?

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Speaker 1: Right, which one the humorous or the femur? You said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, stop a target and buy the operation game. Come

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Speaker 5: over later and we can play it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for real, right, Eddie, can you look up for

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Speaker 1: me the fibula police, I believe fibula sounds like shin right,

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Speaker 1: he's got shin splints either way, though, Uh, good to

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Speaker 1: go now, Kevin. The The story to me of this

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Speaker 1: game is this, and that is I think there's kind

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Speaker 1: of been a blueprint now in Pittsburgh. And I know

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's got a very dangerous from for I mean, we

712
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Speaker 1: saw that, but the way that they just blitz blitz

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Speaker 1: blitzed and got after Daniel Jones and got him uncomfortable,

714
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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you started to see

715
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Speaker 1: that inability to hold onto the football of Jones that

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Speaker 1: had plagued him in New York. Do you expect that

717
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Speaker 1: Kansas City will go as aggressively as we've seen now

718
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Speaker 1: Atlanta tried to do and Pittsburg.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that would be my assumption that certainly

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Speaker 5: Steve sagnals M is to blitz, blitz, blitz. You know,

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Speaker 5: I actually think, you know, probably more Pittsburgh than Atlanta,

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Speaker 5: but you know their numbers, you maybe a little bit lower.

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Speaker 5: So she Pittsburgh again from a blitz standpoint, when you

724
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Speaker 5: have cg a lot Alex Heismith. But Pats and Kansas

725
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Speaker 5: City does I mean the they blitz a ton. I

726
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Speaker 5: don't think they have the edge rushers per se that

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Speaker 5: you know. Again, the two previous opponents are certainly Houston,

728
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Speaker 5: who you'll see coming up a week from Sunday displayed

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Speaker 5: last night. But yeah, I think right now again it

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Speaker 5: fits who Steve sagnal Is is a defensive coordinator for

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Speaker 5: Kansas City. And also given what the Colts have shown

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Speaker 5: the last couple of games, that would be my guest.

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Speaker 1: Eddie, do you happen to have the breaking news sounder,

734
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Speaker 1: and that breaking news Eddie is isaanah Pa Checo is

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Speaker 1: out for Kansas City. So it's Kareem Hunt and Burchard

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Speaker 1: Smith as the two backs once again for Indy Reid

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Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes. But Kansas City Kevin has not really,

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Speaker 1: It's not been the typical Kansas City offense, right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey is leading them in receiving, that is nothing new.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of running the football, this is an area,

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Speaker 1: is it not where Kansas City has really yet to

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Speaker 1: get any solid footing this year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm curious if that means Carson Steel will get

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Speaker 5: called up from the practice squad at all, within me

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Speaker 5: another running back, but yeah, you know, it is something.

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Speaker 5: I think it's been a pretty much storyline in Kansas

747
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Speaker 5: City this week of you know, Andy Reid kind of saying, hey,

748
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 5: I probably should call a few more like actual runs

749
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Speaker 5: and not you know, the RPO variety where you leave

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Speaker 5: it up to what the defense does. So I didn't

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Speaker 5: think that's a bit of a storyline for Sunday, especially

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Speaker 5: to Forrest Buckner, you know, to opponents kind of view

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00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 5: the Colts in a different light. Obviously, the Atlanta situation,

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00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 5: it wasn't necessarily known until later in the week that

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Speaker 5: he was going to be out, and the John Robinson

756
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Speaker 5: and Tyson Tyler Algier still had you know, plenty of

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Speaker 5: run game success. So I do think that is something

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00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 5: to keep an eye out for coming up on Sunday

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Speaker 5: from Kansas City side of it.

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Speaker 1: Now, we were just talking also Shane Stike and saying

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Speaker 1: that he's optimistic that the Forest Buckner will play this year.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what I take from that, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: and you tell me if I'm being too cynical here.

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Speaker 1: By Shane Styke in coming out and saying, look, I'm

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Speaker 1: confident that he will play this year, that immediately to

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Speaker 1: me jumps out as yeah, but I didn't know that

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Speaker 1: that was in question, which means that this is more

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Speaker 1: severe than just like even though you're talking about the neck,

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Speaker 1: I get it right, But if I'm not mistaken, it

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Speaker 1: was a four game I are right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So he has to miss, you know, miss Atlanta,

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00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 5: he has to miss obviously Sunday next week, Houston, in

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Speaker 5: the week after that, Jacksonville, and then he could be back.

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Speaker 5: I want to say it was full Raylar season games

775
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 5: after that, so the earliest he could return to Seattle

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00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 5: in mid December. But that's definitely a different stich in

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00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 5: than what we heard earlier in the week. You know,

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00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 5: it was kind of hopeful, hopeful, hopeful, and now it's

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm very optimistic, so you know, I assume

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00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 5: that that means, you know, whatever the strength numbers they're

781
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 5: seeing behind the scenes, you know, just how he's overall feeling.

782
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 5: You know, the stem cell treatment for whatever the stinger

783
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 5: issue or nerve issue, whatever it was down there in

784
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 5: Panama clearly has left at least a good first impression.

785
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Speaker 5: And we'll see how you know, December and maybe even

786
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 5: January plays out for his return.

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Speaker 1: Kevin does, in your opinion, the second half of the

788
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Speaker 1: schedule now, and you know, let's let's begin with this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we knew Kansas City and how big

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00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: this is, right, and I get it. But if you

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Speaker 1: look beyond that, just based on last night, do things

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00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: get a little more real here, Like, do we all

793
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden need to kind of keep a left

794
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: eye on Houston?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would.

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00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say left eye and probably right eye

797
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 5: given how their pass rush looks. Yeah, I think, you know,

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00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 5: if you just play it out, you know, if Vegas

799
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 5: is right and the Colts lose on Sunday, you are

800
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 5: now two games up on Houston, and then you still

801
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 5: have two games left to play them. If Houston were

802
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 5: to win both of those games, they would have the

803
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 5: same record as a tiebreaker with you. If you split,

804
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 5: obviously you still have that two game lead, and obviously

805
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 5: if the Colts swept them, you would you'd be in great,

806
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 5: great shape. So yes, I do think that is something

807
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 5: that this war's keeping eye on. I mean, how many

808
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 5: teams go through a backup quarterback starts three games and

809
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 5: they win all three of them, And that's what they

810
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 5: just DIDs Davis Mills. So sounds like t. J. Strout

811
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 5: is back now again they are a game behind Jacksonville.

812
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 5: You know, Jacksonville is one game closer to Indy, and again,

813
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 5: both of those matchups have yet to be played, so

814
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 5: it's kind of a weird scheduling year for the AFC

815
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 5: South of the Colts, you know, they're eight and two.

816
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Speaker 5: In a normal AFC South year, you would be a

817
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 5: you know, have a massive lead in the division. But

818
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 5: because you have yet to face the second Blaze team

819
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 5: to Jacksonville two games behind you, and the third place

820
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 5: team Houston currently two and a half games behind you,

821
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 5: there still is you know, a little bit of wiggle room.

822
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Speaker 5: So as long as the cold tip care business in

823
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 5: the AFC South, they are fine. But you know, obviously

824
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 5: we've seen you know, massive December games in this division

825
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 5: in January in recent years and more often than not,

826
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Speaker 5: they haven't gone the coltsway, So they'll have to change

827
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 5: that tune if they don't want to sweat it out,

828
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 5: you know, Week seventeen.

829
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Speaker 1: And Week eighteen. By the way, congratulations, because I think

830
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Speaker 1: this is the first time that we've had you on

831
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Speaker 1: or that I've had a chance to talk to you

832
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: since the birth of your third child, right, Nelly, correct, yes,

833
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: thank you.

834
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Speaker 5: I appreciate that. Yet Nelly is two weeks old, so

835
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Speaker 5: I will let her know when I get home that

836
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 5: Uncle Jake gives her.

837
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Speaker 4: Right.

838
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: Now, here's the thing, Kevin, You're the second of two.

839
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 1: Is that correct? It's just you and an older brother, correct.

840
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 4: Yep, uh huh yeah, Ryan is five years old than me.

841
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: Ye, okay, so I'm the third of three. Okay. My

842
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: parents were completely checked out. Like by the time I

843
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: got to high school, it was awesome. I mean it

844
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: was just me. Both my sisters were out of the house.

845
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: They were away at college and then out of college respectively,

846
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: and like literally it was like did you burn the

847
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: house down today?

848
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: No?

849
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: All right, cool? And it was great. Now do you

850
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: notice is it too early to know this obviously, but

851
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: I am curious the first two weeks, if you will

852
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: sing a baby home in et cetera, is there a

853
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: approach or a different like feeling of comfort the third

854
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: time around? Versus say, when Rosie, who was your first,

855
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: came home, Well, I.

856
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 5: Must say I had forgotten that you were the third

857
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 5: of three. I think had I My brain was that

858
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 5: I might have resunk some actions, you know, around around

859
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 5: a year ago or so, but not to go down

860
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 5: that path. But yeah, that is a great question. I

861
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 5: would say, yes, I would say, you know, when you

862
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 5: have the first particular, because Rosie was born in COVID,

863
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 5: I felt like, you know, every minute, it was like,

864
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, she breathing. Should we call the doctor?

865
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Speaker 4: Is that normal? Can you google that? Will you text

866
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Speaker 4: your you know, nurse sister.

867
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Speaker 5: That's primarily how things went, whereas with this one it's like, oh, wow,

868
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 5: Max's dinosaur didn't leave a mark on her. I guess

869
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 5: she's fine. You know, It's just like there's a little

870
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Speaker 5: bit more of like light to the end of the tunnel.

871
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 5: Things are a little bit more reassured of like, okay,

872
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 5: you know, just because she hasn't you know, pooped in

873
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 5: five hours or you know she maybe is having a

874
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 5: little bit of a nasally episode here she probably is okay.

875
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 5: So yes, certainly some reassurance in the wee hours in

876
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Speaker 5: the morning.

877
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Speaker 1: What about from a sleep standpoint, Yeah.

878
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 5: I mean it's just as you know, bad as it

879
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 5: was to the first two Yeah.

880
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: I mean you just see.

881
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 5: Hours of the night where I'm like, gosh, what you

882
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 5: know outside of Jake Querry, who is.

883
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 4: Up at this hour?

884
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah.

885
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 4: Three eight am.

886
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, rocking or looking outside. I'm like, oh,

887
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 5: no cars have passed my house in the last three minutes. Well, yeah,

888
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 5: because no one in the right mind would be awake.

889
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 5: So yeah, that is probably the one thing. It's like,

890
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 5: oh man, it is quite the reminder that, uh, sleep

891
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 5: is important to you.

892
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Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen, our guest question here Java House, right, what's at.

893
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Speaker 5: But that's why you have Java House to get you.

894
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Speaker 1: Through the day. Kevin. Thank you. As a matter of fact,

895
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Speaker 1: if you'd like to use Jake twenty five and twenty

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Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen, our guest. You hear on the family, aren't you?

898
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Speaker 4: Huh? I'm not to let you know.

899
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Speaker 5: And I guess I probably should have asked him before

900
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Speaker 5: I revealed this, But I believe my brother in law

901
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Speaker 5: is taking a job with the Great Java House here

902
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Speaker 5: upcoming in a few weeks, So shout out the Joba

903
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Speaker 5: House for that.

904
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Speaker 1: Now, it was just a was it one of your

905
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: brother in laws who I'm at the gym?

906
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 4: Yeah?

907
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 5: This was yeah, this was him, I think. Yeah, he

908
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 5: was intimidated to say, I.

909
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 4: Do you.

910
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: He was cool. He's a five hundred fan, if I'm

911
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: not mistaken right. He was an IndyCar fan.

912
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 5: Big, big, yeah, big, big, five hundred fan. Yeah. And

913
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 5: he is a Jae Quarry fan as well. But yeah,

914
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 5: he was little intimidated. I don't know what your presences

915
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 5: around the old you know weights, but he was a

916
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 5: little intimidated by you.

917
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. Listen, I'm a nice guy, you know what I mean.

918
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 1: I mean now I'm irritable, but I'm a nice guy. Kevin.

919
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: Let's get back to again, the Colts and Chiefs coming

920
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: up Sunday. Big one at Arrow had no question about it.

921
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: I was asking this question earlier. If you look at

922
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: the history of these two franchises, there really are you know,

923
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: in the last fifteen years or so, there is is

924
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: much significant matchup fifteen twenty years. I mean, you can

925
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: go back thirty if you want to go back to

926
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 1: ninety five. There are a lot of big games between

927
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: these two franchises, but the Colts have kind of owned it,

928
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: and so as a result of that, it feels to

929
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: me like this is not a franchise that there's a

930
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: lot of angst from the Colts standpoint. In terms of

931
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: the Colts fan base. If you were to survey a

932
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Speaker 1: thousand Colts fans and say who is your second most

933
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: hated team behind New England? Who do you think gets

934
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: the most votes? Who is the second biggest rival to

935
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: a Colts fan, Well, that's a great question.

936
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 5: You know, obviously there's some disdand I think towards Pittsburgh

937
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 5: for Nick Harper, Aaron Bailey, et cetera, et cetera.

938
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 4: You know the Chargers there for a while.

939
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were.

940
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 5: Kind of you know, Philip Rivers was kind of hated.

941
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 5: I feel like just because you know, if you're not

942
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 5: on your team, you just you just think he's just

943
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 5: kind of a crazy, you know, whine you do at times,

944
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 5: but you know, then on your team and you realize

945
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 5: he's just crazy passion about the game of football. I

946
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 5: don't know if any of the AFC soundings qualify. I mean,

947
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 5: I guess because you haven't won in Jacksonville in forever,

948
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 5: and you know, you go back to Eddie George running

949
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,479
Speaker 5: all over you in the playoff game. Maybe a little

950
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 5: bit of Tennessee, but that is a good question, I

951
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 5: assume think Pittsburg just like the magnitude of those games,

952
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 5: the ANFC title game in ninety five and then you

953
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 5: know a lot of people view that Colts team that

954
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 5: lost to them, you know five is probably the best

955
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 5: of the Manning era. So yeah, I would you know, yeah.

956
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's funny. Pittsburgh is to Indianapolis what

957
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: Indianapolis is to Kansas City, right. I mean, if you're

958
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: a Chiefs fan, you probably have a disdain for the

959
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: Colts because that lent you know, that team And I

960
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: know I'm going way back here, but the letter Rip

961
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: Colts that went in and beat that was a I mean,

962
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: that was a number one seeded Chiefs team that had

963
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: not that was the best team they'd had in quite

964
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: some time. And the Colts go in there and knock

965
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: them off, and then obviously the no punt game, the

966
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 1: Colts get that the Super Bowl run where Larry Johnson

967
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: was expected to go for three hundred and fifty yards

968
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: and the Colts corralum and they win that game. I mean,

969
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: the Colts have kind of owned it, right.

970
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, and obviously the huge comeback and.

971
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: Then in the yeah, the Superman game, right.

972
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Superman game there in twenty thirteen.

973
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 5: And you know, weirdly, Mahomes hasn't beaten him in the

974
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 5: regular season, like, you know, that's just kind of an

975
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 5: oddity that they're the only team that Mahomes has yet

976
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 5: to beat in the regular season here. And you know,

977
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 5: one of those games was in there had now Grahead,

978
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 5: you know, Mahomes and the Chiefs to beat the Colts

979
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 5: in the playoffs with Andrew Luck. Actually Andrew Luck's final

980
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 5: game is what it ended up being there in that

981
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 5: twenty eighteen season. So yeah, it does feel like the

982
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 5: Coltson's Chiefs have had some crossover, particularly in the postseason

983
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 5: a little bit more here.

984
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 4: You know, I remember Bruce.

985
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 5: Arians won a huge game there late in that twenty

986
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 5: twelve season to clinch with Chuck McGonnell came back, so

987
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 5: you do have probably a little bit more than you.

988
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 4: Typically do with some divisional teams.

989
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, Larry Johnson, as he pointed out, you know, going

990
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 5: to that Super Bowl run. You know how many questions

991
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 5: the Colts had with their run defense before facing Larry

992
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 5: Johnson opening round game, and they were outstanding against the

993
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 5: leage leading in Russia.

994
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 1: Uh, finally, Kevin, before we let you go, so Mooney Ward,

995
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: you know we're talking in there, right, Shavarius Ward?

996
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, good to go, Good to go. As clear concussion

997
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 5: protocol sounded like the symptoms were very extreme, though, I mean,

998
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 5: I think probably most people would have expected that, given

999
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 5: you know, he got knocked out and was, you know,

1000
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 5: on ir for a month. But yeah, we just spoke

1001
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 5: with him. That's why I was a few minutes late

1002
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 5: hopping on so I apologize. But he said that, you know,

1003
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 5: comparing his two concussions he had one earlier in the year,

1004
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 5: he called it more migraine than he called this one,

1005
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 5: a concussion that honestly had him rethinking if he'd ever

1006
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 5: played football again. Said he was busy for about a month.

1007
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 5: He was puking and really didn't start feeling good good

1008
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 5: until until the bye week, so you know, yeah, I

1009
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 5: mean listening to here, listening to him share these details,

1010
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 5: it was scary. I mean it was And again listening

1011
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 5: to hear him compare the two concussions, you know, I

1012
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 5: guess the old snowflake analogy of you know, all concussions

1013
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 5: aren't the same, you know, very very apparent here, And

1014
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 5: you know, he just said when over tree hit him,

1015
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 5: he just blacked out and really doesn't remember much of

1016
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 5: it at all, and sounded like just awful for those

1017
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 5: that have not totally followed the Mooney Wards story. He

1018
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 5: also lost his daughter, I mean, the definition of beyond

1019
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 5: tragic a year ago this week, so that has been

1020
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 5: something that's weighed on him, and he just expressed us

1021
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 5: right now mentally, you know, he's he's just dealing with

1022
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 5: a lot. So you know, he did reiterate that football wise,

1023
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 5: he feels like he's in, you know, a great spot

1024
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 5: to go out and play on Sunday and all of that.

1025
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 5: But yeah, I was probably just a reminder of sometimes

1026
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 5: these guys, you know, are dealing with a lot more

1027
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 5: than you know what might be let on.

1028
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: And how would you assess Sauce Gardner.

1029
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought he played fairly well in Germany considering

1030
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 5: the circumstances and Drake London he got him at two

1031
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 5: point version where he slipped, you know, he had the

1032
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 5: near pick. But you know, I think the luxury with

1033
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 5: you know, having these two guys now, you know, somewhat

1034
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 5: up to speed is sure you could pick the shadow him.

1035
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 5: But also you don't have to do the Hey, you

1036
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 5: follow this guy around, you fall that guy around if

1037
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 5: you wanted to, you know, you can leave him both

1038
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 5: on the same side of the field. Whereas, you know,

1039
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 5: I think you know, in Germany, for example, Atlanta sometimes

1040
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 5: moved Drake London around and that proved to be, you know,

1041
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 5: something that worked out quite well for him, Whereas I

1042
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 5: don't think that's necessarily a must for the Colts, given

1043
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 5: they feel very good about.

1044
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 4: Their corner group.

1045
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 5: And honestly, it's probably the best secondary that I've seen

1046
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 5: the culture rollout in the game, honestly in the history

1047
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 5: that I've covered the Colts.

1048
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen, of course, you will hear him coming up

1049
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: seven o'clock in the morning on Monday. The Fan Morning Show,

1050
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: along with James Boyd and jeff Rickord will have all

1051
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: of the coverage as well, including his recap of the

1052
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: game against Kansas City brought to you by the Indiana

1053
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Speaker 1: Donor Network on social media, as well as one of

1054
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Speaker 1: seven to five the fan dot com where you can

1055
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Speaker 1: read his coverage of the Colts. Appreciate it, Kevin Great

1056
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Speaker 1: weekend guys, Alright Kevin Bell and joining us on the program.