1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: You were listening to the Best of the Fan morning 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: show on ninety three five and one oh seven five 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: the Fan. 4 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: All right, Thursday, four o'clock. It is the Rose Bowl, 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: the Indiana Hoosiers a touchdown favorite over the Alabama Crimson Tide. 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 2: Indiana got to Pasadena late last night and our next 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: guest Scott Doctorman from the Athletic He is currently boots 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: on the ground and he is a far better human 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: being than I. That's probably how simple I will put it. 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: Was chatting with James Boyd yesterday and said, you know, 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: I think it'd be great if we got somebody college 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 2: football specific on to talk about Indiana Alabama coming up. 13 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: On Thursday. We had Scott on I think just after 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: maybe the Big Ten Championship somewhere around then, and he 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: was great. And I didn't realize James that he was 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: literally in California. It's five thirty two in the morning 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: out there. 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: Hey, Scott can vouch for this. 19 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: I did test him and I told him, hey, you 20 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: don't need to do this if you're out west, and 21 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: he I can't believe you asted it. 22 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 4: No. 23 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: I the question I'll put out that if you're out west, 24 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 3: then I'll find somebody else. I didn't know where he 25 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: was going to be because he's a national coasotball writer. 26 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: Unfreaking believable the payloss Slickers hotline we had to right now, Scott, 27 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: what are you doing awake right now? 28 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 5: Yeah? 29 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. As you could tell, I enjoyed 30 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 4: LA a little bit too late last night and now 31 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 4: here I am this morning, and I was woke up 32 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 4: about an hour ago going, you know what, that's probably 33 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 4: one of the best idea in the world. 34 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 5: But I'll take it. But it's all good. You know. 35 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 4: It's a pretty exciting environment right now. I mean when 36 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 4: you'd start to talk about the Rose Bowl, it means 37 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 4: something to Midwesterners. And I've seen some of the videos 38 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 4: so far of a lot of Indiana fans heading out 39 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 4: and I think I saw somebody's Instagram where they were 40 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 4: offering fifteen hundred dollars for somebody to get off their 41 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 4: flight because they're just jam packed with. 42 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 5: Usiers coming at you this way. 43 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 4: And it just shows you what the Rose bull still means, 44 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 4: even in this day of change in college football. 45 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, well, for fifteen hundred, I'm getting off 46 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: the flight. 47 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: Of advil for Scott here at the media Scott, I 48 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: thought the piece was really good about how did Indiana 49 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: football get so good so fast? Inside Kurt Signett's turn around. 50 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about it obviously in our little bubble, 51 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 2: but for you, what made you stood out the most 52 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: in researching that that piece. 53 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 4: I think it was talking to some kind of assistance 54 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 4: around the Big Ten and you know, because there's some 55 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 4: things that you want to know that maybe I'm not 56 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 4: necessarily either privy to or well versed enough in, you know, 57 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 4: whether it's their their schematics or how they put the 58 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 4: scheme together. And really from what the assistance said is yeah, 59 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 4: I mean, they do a nice job with the scheme, 60 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 4: but it's really about the coaching and the fundamentals. And 61 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 4: I always think that's some of the most difficult things 62 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 4: to do in this day and age of college foot 63 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 4: ball where it's somewhat transient and use the portal a lot. 64 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 4: And I think it was kind of what it came 65 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 4: down to me was this perfect confluence of having the 66 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 4: right coach bring the right foundation with him, and then 67 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 4: supplementing the players that he had with quality players out 68 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 4: of the portal who fit rather than just hey, oh wow, 69 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 4: this guy's a bounce back four star guy from some 70 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: SEC school and taking a flyer there, and he was 71 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 4: actually more direct and how he wanted to bring those 72 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 4: guys in, but once they came on campus, the way 73 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 4: that they were able to develop them and coach them 74 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 4: and turn turn them into from decent players to very 75 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 4: very good or elite players, like a Fernando Mendoza who 76 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 4: was really nice player at Cal last year but then 77 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: took that team and that and or that player and 78 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 4: ended up becoming the Heisman drill winner because of the 79 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: way they can coach and the way they put the 80 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 4: team together. I think that was really what stands out 81 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: to me about Indiana because when you look at like 82 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 4: this matchup, specifically two years ago, I'd have thought anybody 83 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 4: was crazy if they would have said, hey, that Indiana 84 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 4: even would be in the Rose Bowl, but be play Alabama, 85 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 4: be seven point favorite, and really, when you look at 86 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 4: the matchup, if Indiana plays well, Indiana wins this and 87 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 4: probably by more than double in a double figure range, 88 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 4: because they are clearly the better team. And it just 89 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 4: it shows you just how, you know, kind of the 90 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 4: college football landscape has changed so much and how Indiana 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: was able to capitalize on that with a truly great 92 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 4: coach in Kurt Signetti. 93 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: Again, we have Scott Doctrman from The Athletic joining us 94 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 3: here in a paless Lucas hot line despite being three 95 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 3: hours behind on the West coast. So thanks for the time, Scott. 96 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: One of the closest set out to me and your 97 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 3: story recently on IU and their rise, which has been 98 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 3: movie like, who's your like? If you want to make 99 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: a movie reference. One of the big ten assistants that 100 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: you gave anonymity to said, they're not trying to outscheme guys. 101 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 3: They're trying to play unbelievably fundamentally well and harder and 102 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 3: tougher than their opponents, and their scheme allows them to 103 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: do that because it's not a. 104 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: Bunch of star wars out there. 105 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 3: That was pretty funny to me because we know how 106 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: exotic and crazy college offenses can look. But how much 107 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: have you seen IU just be who they are? 108 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: If that makes sense. 109 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 3: It's a kind of a cliche, but to that point, yeah, 110 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: there isn't a whole lot of makeup. 111 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: They just go out there and kind of beat you down. 112 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a great point because when you 113 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 4: look at their road games this year that they had 114 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 4: to come back and win at Iowa, at Oregon, at 115 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 4: Penn State, that was about toughness and physicality as much 116 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 4: as it was scheming guys in the right spot to 117 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 4: make those plays. And you know, I would say specifically 118 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 4: Iowa and Oregon, I mean, two of the best offensive 119 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 4: lines in the country and two of the tougher defensive 120 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 4: lines in the country. And they had to slug it 121 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 4: out with those teams just to put themselves in a 122 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 4: position to win. 123 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 5: And then what they were able to. 124 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 4: Do was emphasize the skills and smarts that their players 125 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 4: had and put them in positions to make winning plays. 126 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 4: And I'll go to the Iowa game specifically, I mean 127 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 4: it was kind of they were in kind of fortunate 128 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 4: situation that they had an opportunity to win the game. 129 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 4: But when they did, Elijah Sarat made one of the 130 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 4: best plays of the season in scoring what a forty 131 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 4: nine yard touchdown pass because Iowa was coming at him 132 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 4: with heat, i mean, blitzing, and Sarat with his relationship 133 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 4: with Fernando Mendoza, which was quick, but the way that 134 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 4: they coached it, he kind of shaped his route a 135 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 4: little bit. He didn't get quite the depth on it, 136 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 4: but he was able to get this explosiveness on it 137 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 4: to where Iowa's cornerback couldn't break on him quickly enough 138 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 4: and Frenana Mendozo laid a great pass on that slant 139 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 4: and next thing, No, he was able to race to 140 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 4: the end zone because he reshaped his route. And a 141 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 4: lot of that is through his own skill set and abilities. 142 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 4: And it was the way that they were able to 143 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: pick up the blitz just enough and then. But it 144 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: wasn't anything like magic or schematically impressive. It was just 145 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 4: the way that they played within the scheme. And I 146 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 4: would say the same thing just about the physicality is 147 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 4: when you're playing some of those teams, you've got to 148 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 4: meet that or you're going to get beat. And that's 149 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 4: probably the maybe the biggest surprise over the Signetti era 150 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 4: is that they are both lines of scrimmage meet that 151 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 4: physicality against anyone Ohio, State, Iowa, Oregon. 152 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 5: You name it. 153 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 4: They're able to do it. And for them to be 154 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 4: able to do that, it maximizes their abilities and then 155 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 4: it allows what I think is some of the best 156 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: route space I've seen in college football with those receivers. 157 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 5: Again. 158 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: That's Scott Doctorman live from Pasadena right now. He's gracious 159 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: with his time here early early on this Tuesday morning. 160 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: Indiana got to Pasadena last night and they will have 161 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: a practice today coming up Thursday, four o'clock. It is 162 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl. 163 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: Scott. 164 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: Wildly, it looks like rain in the forecast for Thursday. 165 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: I read somewhere where we've only had one rain at 166 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl period since nineteen fifty five. Do you 167 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: think a rain game would favor more Indiana more Alabama? 168 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 4: I think I think definitely Indiana because Alabama is so 169 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 4: one dimensional. They can't run the ball, whether it's a 170 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 4: raid or shine. You know, they're one hundred and twenty 171 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 4: fifth and yards per carry, and so if they're going 172 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 4: to have sloppy footing, then I think that they're going 173 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 4: to have to certainly, you know, go to the pass, 174 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 4: and while it could work, you do have to counterbalance that. 175 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 4: And whereas Indiana is is balanced in every single aspect 176 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 4: of its offense. So uh, I would I would expect 177 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 4: Indiana to really take advantage of that in the rain, 178 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 4: you know, and and because to me, Indiana is clearly 179 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 4: the better team in this and unless they make a 180 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 4: lot of mistakes fumbles, uh, turnovers, you know, get you know, 181 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 4: do something dumb on defense. I I mean, I think 182 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 4: this is really set up nicely for them, and then 183 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 4: with bad weather conditions, I think it could be it 184 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 4: could be a surprising score at the end. 185 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 5: Let's just put it that way. 186 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 3: One more on field question before we let you go, Scott, 187 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: how much of a factor do you think the loss 188 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: of Stephen Daly will be for the Hoosiers? Knowing that 189 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: he was one of the top defensive linemen in the 190 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: country and got injured celebrating after they had advanced to 191 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: this stage of the Kolshawa Playoffs. 192 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, what a what a terrible injury And it was 193 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 4: and it wasn't like he was doing anything crazy. He 194 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 4: was just kind of reach it up and and flapping 195 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 4: hands and just a terrible injury. And I think it 196 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 4: does have an impact because he is, you know, one 197 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 4: of the best guys when it comes to penetration and 198 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 4: tackles for loss. But I think the way I've seen 199 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 4: with with Bryant Hynes and what makes him such a 200 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 4: good defensive coordinator is he plays with the players. He 201 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 4: has so he may. He'll probably scheme around him to where, okay, 202 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 4: we need a little bit more quickness now off the 203 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 4: edge in certain past situations. So then they may elevate 204 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 4: a linebacker into that role because they do have some 205 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 4: depth there. But I don't know that this is the 206 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 4: round where it'll show up, because Alabama, you know, has 207 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,599 Speaker 4: allowed twenty nine facts already this year, and they're a 208 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: one hundredths in the country. 209 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 5: So I think that it may. 210 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 4: But it may show up in the next round if 211 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 4: they're playing Oregon or or texasttack, but you know, specifically Oregon, 212 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 4: and then definitely, you know, if they're playing Georgia Ohio State. 213 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 4: But I it's just it's such a real shame as 214 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 4: he was playing so well this year. 215 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: Scott Document again from the athletic great piece of the 216 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: Indiana football program and how it's been built with Kurt 217 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: Signetti and coming up it is Thursday, four o'clock in 218 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: India and Alabama about a touchdown favorite here in the rows. Well, 219 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 2: Scott can't thank you enough. Man, get some resk, get 220 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 2: some fluids. We'll talk to you all right. Thanks for 221 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: having me appreciate you. That's Scott Document right there. On 222 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: the payless liquor. 223 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: Son, is it even up where he's at right now? 224 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: No chance he's talking to us, No chance help Son. 225 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: Doesn't even rise till like seven thirty. I feel like 226 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: you're exactly if that maybe more like eight o'clock right 227 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: now in the States. So much more on that. Joy 228 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: ericson from the Star going to join us coming up 229 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: at nine o'clock, will update you on where we're at 230 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: from a fan poll standpoint, and much more on this 231 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: Tuesday morning Kevin boll And, James Boyd, Caleb Zuber ninety 232 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: three to five on a seven to five the Fan, 233 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 2: All right, nine o'clock hour, we wait official word from 234 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: Shane steich In on exactly who a coult start quarterback 235 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 2: will be in week eighteen. It is a normal cadence 236 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: week for the Colts. So today player off day, Tomorrow, 237 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: we'll do the Wednesday walk through, practice, Thursday and Friday 238 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: off to Houston for the season finale. In James boy 239 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: that's a rocket run, right, That's a quick little trip 240 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: for you guys trying to get back before locker room 241 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: clean out, is it not? 242 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I will be flying out Saturday, flying back Sunday, 243 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: nights after the game, So pray for no overtime. There 244 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: you go, and even if there was, I probably just 245 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: leave catch my flight. I mean, it does it matter 246 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: what am I staying around for. I'm being honest here, 247 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: I actually thought about that. Like with my editors, just 248 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: be like, hey, you hit the road. 249 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: Now, speaking of flights, did I get when there's a 250 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: large is it a mural of Joel A. Rickson in 251 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Airport? 252 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 3: This is according to our p one listener Derek White, 253 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: and I believe that is the case. 254 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 5: Mural? 255 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: Do I have that correct? Picture? Can't bey? 256 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,479 Speaker 3: Mural has to be something like, I don't know, statue, statue, 257 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 3: I don't know if that would be right now on 258 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: the Indy cars really encompassed how. 259 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: Great of a person Joey Erickson is. 260 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: Joel. I haven't flown in a while. Is this true? 261 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 5: I am unaware that there's a picture of me in 262 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 5: the airport. 263 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: I didn't know that it's a wanted poster. 264 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: Oh come on, now, you guys are just being clemming. 265 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: Joel's just he's just being a nice, humble individual. It's 266 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: a wanted poster, That's why he's being nice. You guys 267 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: fly all the time. How do we not spoted this? 268 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 2: So that's not like our airport's that big. 269 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 5: I have no idea, I very seriously have no idea. 270 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 5: What the what the listener is talking about that there's 271 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 5: a there's a picture of me in the airport. 272 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 3: I think it's similar to how I see it at 273 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 3: Pacers games, because you have a partnership with them. Sometimes 274 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 3: I'll see Joel pop up on like the Jumbo try, 275 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 3: and I'll think, oh my gosh, I know that person. 276 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: So it's a very cool experience and maybe Joel. I 277 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 3: think if it is somewhere, it might be where baggage 278 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 3: claim is and we never go there because we pack light. 279 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, that that is true. If it is my baggage claim, 280 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 5: I haven't been there in a long long time because 281 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 5: I just everything's carry on and you just say right there. 282 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: He didn't even check up to Berlin. 283 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 5: I did not. 284 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 2: That's efficiency. I respected a lot I had. 285 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 5: I had that thing, I had that thing packed. I 286 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 5: was worried the suitcase was gonna explode, right like, because 287 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 5: the last time we went to Germany, my wife came 288 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 5: with us and she checked the bag and that bag 289 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 5: didn't get there right away, and all I could think 290 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 5: about was, Uh, I'm going to get to Germany and 291 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 5: they're gonna be like, you don't have any clothes, and 292 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 5: so I was like, I'm just gonna take them with me. 293 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no way. You know, all of a sudden, 294 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: you're scrambling in the Berlin airport for a zipper here 295 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: to try to get your bag back together. You're busting 296 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: at the seams. Joel Erickson from the Star went to 297 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: see her palst Lickers hotline. Joel, let's start big picture. 298 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: I know you wrote something on it and I want 299 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: to get into it. Those really good piece kind of 300 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: painting both sides of the carlier say Gordon decision story. 301 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question here. First, do you 302 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: think the evaluation for her in regards to Chris Baward 303 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: is a comparing a nine year resume or a one 304 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: year resume? 305 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I I don't know, and I think that 306 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 6: that's the That's kind of the most important question is 307 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 6: you know, you asked way back in June, you know, 308 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 6: is this. 309 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 5: The playoffs or bus season? And she said, you know, 310 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 5: it depends on you know, what happens. She even mentioned 311 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 5: injury as possibility, and uh, I think that's that's really 312 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 5: the ultimate question. Is it just comes down to do 313 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 5: you bet on the promise of this season? You know, 314 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 5: this is the team that did get to eight and two. 315 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 5: There's still I think fourth in DVOA, which is a 316 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 5: statistic that you know, is sort of a if it's 317 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 5: like war in baseball or something like that, where you're 318 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 5: trying to come up with a a one stop, you know, 319 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 5: kind of look at all of it, how good a 320 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 5: team is? Do you that and go, well, if we've 321 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 5: got Gangle Jones, mayb where we can recapture that? Or 322 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 5: do you look at the entire tenure? Because I think 323 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 5: if I think if you look at the entire tenure, 324 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 5: it's it's hard to make that case. But if it's 325 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 5: if it's based on do we want to try to 326 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 5: recapture what we have at the beginning of this season, 327 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 5: I think that's the case for bringing him back again. 328 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: We're talking to Indianapolis celebrity joy Erickson, who has a 329 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: mural and a statue soon to be erected outside of 330 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 3: Lucas Oil Stadium as well. 331 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: He's the mid court logo on the basketball court. 332 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 3: There you go shout out to the morning hoofs that 333 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: you play Joel. But on a more serious note, we 334 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: have been going back and forth about this when it 335 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: comes to Chris Ballot here on the show. If you're 336 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: evaluating him Joel, how much do you weigh the nine 337 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: season as a whole versus the one. 338 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: Year this year? 339 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: Like if you had to split it into percentages, what 340 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: percentage are you going towards nine years versus one year? 341 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 5: I I think if it I think if it was me, 342 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 5: I would lean towards the nine years. I've been thinking 343 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 5: about that for the last couple of days, like how 344 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 5: would I handle it on the flip side of it? 345 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 5: So I think part of it is that once you 346 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 5: get once you bring Shane Stikeen into it, it pushes 347 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 5: you back towards the one year, and that's that's I 348 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 5: think maybe the hardest part is because they haven't been 349 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 5: there together the whole year or the whole time. I 350 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 5: think if you start with if you're thinking about just Ballard, 351 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 5: I think it's probably got to be at least in 352 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 5: my mind, it should be the nine years. But if 353 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 5: it's stiching, then I think it brings you back to 354 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 5: this year because Sikean obviously wasn't here for the whole time. 355 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 5: And if you you know, get rid of your GM, 356 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 5: but don't get rid of your coach, I kind of think, 357 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 5: and I'm sure there are examples against this, but it 358 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 5: just feels to me like like, really, you're just delaying 359 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 5: the inevitable because the new GM always wants to coach, 360 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 5: and so it feels like if you give up on 361 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 5: a ballad, you and you end up giving up on 362 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 5: stichen at the same time. And and that's where I 363 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 5: think the decision gets complicated, because you know you can 364 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 5: obviously you can, you can move the general manager without 365 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 5: moving the head coach. But the one that sticks out 366 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 5: to me for that is just remember Tennessee fired their 367 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 5: general manager. They had Mike Vrabel. The whole storyline for 368 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 5: a month around that team was this is Mike Rabel 369 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 5: taking full control over the Titans organization and he's untouchable now, 370 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 5: and then he was gone like seven or eight games 371 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 5: in the next season, and that kind of, you know, 372 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 5: to me underlined, if you make a move at one 373 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 5: of those positions, you're just kind of delaying and move 374 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 5: at one of the others. 375 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: And that's the voice Joeli Ericson from the Star. He's 376 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: with us here on the Payless Slickers hotline. Joel, it's 377 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: a question that I get. I would say a decent amount, 378 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: but it's it's kind of a hard one for me 379 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: to really try and justify, so I'll maybe throw it 380 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 2: your way. And I was reminded of it. I was 381 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: reading this piece in the Athletic this morning, kind of 382 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: a Carli Ersa Gordon profiled in the piece. There's some 383 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: phrasing there and I'm paraphrasing here. You know, it's the 384 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: small town team in a big boys league, or have 385 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 2: everyone to describe the Colts, you know, And I think 386 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: if you talk thirty two teams in the NFL, financially, 387 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: the Colts probably aren't in whatever the top five or 388 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: top ten of that list, given the transition and ownership, 389 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: given the inheritance tax element to it. Given I believe 390 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: Chris Ballad has one more year left on his contract, 391 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: I want to say Shane Steiken has three more years left. 392 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 2: Do you think those finances and what it would cost 393 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: to potentially fire both of them, do you think that's 394 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: at play in any of this decision making at all? 395 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: Because I feel like that's a question I get asked about. 396 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 2: I don't know a decent amount. 397 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's a good question that I don't I 398 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 5: don't really know the answer to. One of the toughest 399 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 5: things I think about covering the NFL is that outside 400 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 5: of a hint, which is all we really get, is 401 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 5: that when the Packers release sayers because they uh, they 402 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 5: release their finances because they're not owned by a single 403 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 5: you know, entity the same way that other teams are. 404 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 5: That's that's a hint. But like I also don't look 405 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 5: at that too closely because the Packers obviously aren't the colts, 406 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 5: and I don't know that it applies too much. And 407 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 5: I just we just don't know exactly what the the 408 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 5: cash flow is. There's there's no and there's no way. 409 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 5: Like in college, when you cover a college team, most 410 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 5: of them you can it's public. It's a public school, 411 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 5: so you can boy it and you can find out 412 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 5: what the what the finances are. You just can't do 413 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 5: it in the NFL. And so I think that that's 414 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 5: the toughest thing is I don't know. I really don't. 415 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 5: I don't know if they I don't know if it 416 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 5: plays into it or not so again. 417 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 3: We're talking to joy ericson Colts Insider for Indie Star 418 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: and this just in from ESPN Stephen Holden Jeremy Fowler. 419 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: The Colts are expected to start Roley Leonard for the 420 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 3: season finale. If that is indeed the case, Joel, which 421 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: I'm sure you're probably sing some texts as well as 422 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 3: I am. Is that the right decision because yesterday Shane 423 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 3: sort of left the door open for possibly Philip being 424 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 3: back out there. 425 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of fell on Sunday the way he 426 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 5: talked about it, it was kind of leaning towards Ry Leonard. 427 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 5: I do think it's the right decision. You bring in 428 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 5: Rivers because you feel like you want the professionalism and 429 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 5: being able to run the offense and the experience and 430 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 5: the experience and make the right decisions in games and 431 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 5: play the right way in games where you don't necessarily 432 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 5: get that with the younger quarterback. They don't have the 433 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 5: playoffs staring them in the face anymore. And I know 434 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 5: this team believes Riley Leonard can be a developmental you know, backup, 435 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 5: can develop into a backup at the very least in 436 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 5: the NFL. I think you make that decision to give 437 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 5: him some snaps and give him that very important chance 438 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 5: to play the game one once yearly made from the playoffs. 439 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 2: Do you think Philip Rivers will be the backup? 440 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 5: They they they signed Seth Heading in uh yesterday and I. 441 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: Sounds like the starter at HSC this past year. Or 442 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: was he Fisher's this quarterback they signed. 443 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 5: They signed former Memphis quarterback and Jaguars rookie Seth Heading 444 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 5: in yesterday the practice squad, and immediately I think most 445 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 5: people probably thought this. I thought, you know, is that 446 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 5: the backup for for Sunday? Because I don't know if 447 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 5: I don't know if if you're not if you're not 448 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 5: playing Philip Rivers in the starting lineup, you know, I 449 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 5: don't know if you have him ready to go. Even 450 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 5: if he's there, I don't know if he's even if 451 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 5: even if you keep him on the roster, I don't 452 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 5: know if he's if he goes on the trip, I 453 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 5: don't know if I would play him in the event 454 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 5: unless you unless you absolutely got down to your third quarterback. 455 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 5: I think you know, as both as a you know, 456 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 5: decision for the franchise, but also as a just kind 457 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 5: of a sign of respect for Philip you don't. You 458 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 5: don't go, Okay, We're just going to have you here 459 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 5: as a as a backup in case of something where 460 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 5: we're out of the playoffs. So now we're in a 461 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 5: we're in a situation where we're gonna handle it differently, 462 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 5: handle it more like I can't remember. I think I 463 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 5: texted James and and some of the other writers with this. 464 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 5: You know, some of the guys that played quarterback in 465 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 5: the league last year last week started, you know, Chris 466 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 5: Oladokum for Kansas City, Josh Johnson is still playing for Washington. 467 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 5: Brady Cook. As much as I love Brady Cook as 468 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 5: a Missouri alum, I don't know that anybody thought he 469 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 5: was going to start for the Jets this year. You're 470 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 5: kind of getting more into that situation with with those 471 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 5: teams than you are when you were you were trying 472 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 5: to still push for the playoffs. 473 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 2: So just to go over what we are guessing for 474 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: the quarterback depth chart on Sunday, Leonard start, your neighbor 475 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 2: Seth as the backup, Philip Rivers holding a Microsoft surface 476 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: not dressed, and Anthony Richardson not yet clear for game activity. 477 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: Is that is that what we're going with it sounded. 478 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 5: It sounded yesterday. It sounded yesterday like Anthony Richardson. Like 479 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 5: the Colts believe Anthony Richardson is still dealing with visual limitation, 480 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 5: and I think that they're I think that there. It 481 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 5: seems like their team is if concerned about the possible 482 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 5: effects of putting him out there, if he's dealing with that. 483 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: Okay, last last one. Joel a Ericson from The Star 484 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: with the Serier payless lickers hotline. I'm gonna leave it 485 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 2: rather open ended. The best player on the twenty twenty 486 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: five Colts football team has been who. 487 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 5: It's It's still Jonathan Taylor. 488 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 2: I know the numbers are ugly over the last two months, 489 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 2: I will say that they are. 490 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 5: But the first two months were crazy, sure, and I 491 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 5: think I think that's the first ten games. The Berlian 492 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 5: Game still happened, you know, I mean the first the last. 493 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 5: The other thing is the last two months have been 494 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 5: You're right, the last two months have been ugly, and 495 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 5: he's gonna finish second in the NFL and rushing. 496 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 2: I think, what if I took Taylor out of it? 497 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 5: If you take Taylor out of it, best player for 498 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 5: the Colts this year it's probably it's probably Quentin. 499 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: Cam bying them. 500 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: Boy, that was a long cause it's probably Quentin. 501 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 5: It's well, I was throwing. I was rolling through Quentin 502 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 5: cam Bye them, Alec Peerce, Tyler Warren. Warren, like like Taylor, 503 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 5: had had a fall off, but if you look at 504 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 5: his numbers, it's still numbers you would absolutely take from 505 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 5: a rookie tight end. He's over seventy catches. And then 506 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 5: the other one that goes in there, especially like early 507 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 5: in the season, would be I think I think the 508 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 5: guy I was in the chat that we do on 509 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 5: Indie Starr, you know, did I think any any Colts 510 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 5: got snubbed for the Pro Bowl? And I mentioned, you know, 511 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 5: Warren had a case, but I also think Canna Borderlini 512 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 5: had a case at center based on the way he 513 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 5: played early in the season. Those spots went to Linderbahum 514 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 5: in Baltimore and Humphrey and Kansas City, which that's those 515 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 5: are kind of the we always put these guys in 516 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 5: here guys. But I thought Borderlini was was maybe making 517 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 5: a play for a Pro Bowl spot early in the season. 518 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 2: Find his work, it's excellent as always. Joel A. Erickson 519 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 2: over on the Indianapolis Star, and it'll be a quick 520 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: one back from Houston and we'll await what exactly is 521 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 2: going to take place here coming up next Sunday or 522 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 2: I guess this Sunday and Monday. 523 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 3: Joel is always Joe real quick. My subscription just renewed 524 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 3: for Indy Starr. So I want my shorts, I want 525 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 3: my features. I want it all annual subscription. 526 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: Baby. 527 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: I am locked down with Joey Ericson and Nathan Brown. 528 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: When you said shorts, I thought you meant literally basketball 529 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: like it was part of your twenty twenty six again. 530 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: If no stories is what I will say. 531 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 2: That on the right lines, on the right side, I 532 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: don't need any. 533 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: Shorts from Joe. I I think I got that covered. 534 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 5: Seorts is my face on him? When that's so, there's 535 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 5: no way that would sell. 536 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: There you go, all right, Joel, you have a going brother. 537 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: I'll see you home. 538 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 2: How you with you again, Joey Erickson right there on 539 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 2: the payloss Slickers hotlines. All right, we'll continue our countdown 540 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: of the top ten sports stories here in the state 541 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: of Indiana this year. We'll do that here. If you 542 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 2: we've got a couple that we need to get to 543 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 2: news here in the last hour from ESPN, and sounds 544 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: like it will be rookie Riley Leonard coming up week 545 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: eighteen in Houston. Boy, quite the opponent for your first 546 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: ever start in the NFL. That Houston defense and James. 547 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: They're banged up a corner, but it does sound like 548 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 2: they're gonna play their guys And just remind everybody on 549 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: Houston status, they need a Jacksonville lost to Tennessee in 550 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: order to win the division. Obviously they need to win 551 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: them so elves they need both those things to happen. 552 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 2: So you know, it could be one of those weird 553 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: sequences where like if all of a sudden at halftime, 554 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: Jacksonville's up whatever three scores in Nashville, then you know, 555 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 2: maybe they would pump the brakes a little bit there, 556 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: But at least for the start of the game, Raley 557 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: Leonard will see a as healthy as a number one 558 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: defense in the league. Sixteen points I believe allowed per game. 559 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, good luck. Honestly, that defense is terrifying. 560 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: Every time I watched them. I watch them against the 561 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 3: Chargers and I was thinking, boy, they fly around and 562 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 3: their edge rushers, unlike the Colts ed Rushers, they get home. 563 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 2: All right, let's count down our list here and again 564 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: we've taken it a little bit, and I apologize because 565 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: I certainly have not been keeping a consistent up to 566 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: date on it. But they start top ten Indiana sports 567 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: stories of the year, guys, so far my order ten, 568 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: moving up Miles McLoughlin at ten, I had Darren DeVries hired. 569 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: At nine. I had Purdue in the sweet sixteen at eight, 570 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: a shot away from beating Houston and going to the 571 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 2: lad over at Lucas Oil. Number seven was the Colts 572 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: hot start six five and four for me, six was 573 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: Alex Poalow finally getting suns. Look, I had to man, 574 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: come on, we gotta get that. 575 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: Can we try this again? Can you start over here? 576 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 5: We go? 577 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: Number six? 578 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: What a brief Kevin come on hand raised Caleb Zuber. 579 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 2: My fault on that. Alex Plow one of the most 580 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: dominant IndyCar seasons, frankly we've ever seen. You know, he 581 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: had that path a lot earlier than we're used to 582 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: here in recent eighty five hundreds, and getting by Marcus Arison. 583 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: Of course, he had all the chaos that ensued of 584 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: you know, who was eligible who was not. But I 585 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: had Pulo six, number five, I had Notre Dames run 586 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: to the national championship. You know, if you're going with 587 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: the calendar year, you had Notre Dames win over Georgia 588 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: technically in twenty twenty five, and then you had Notre 589 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: Dames Orange Bowl win also of course in twenty twenty 590 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: five over Penn States, and Notre Dame making of the 591 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: national title was five, and then I had the fever 592 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: at four. You know, you think about everything that transpired 593 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 2: this season for them, you know, I mean, just think 594 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: about the drama James remember the Dwana Bonner situation. 595 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was crazy all that. 596 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: Obviously, Caitlin Clark's health, you know, Kelsey Mitchell had the 597 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: very weird injury there in game five of the of 598 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: the semi final round. There So six, five and four 599 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: for me, Pollo Notre Dame and then the fever. What 600 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: do you got, klebu zub? 601 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 5: Yeah? 602 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 7: For my numbers, I mean, unless you want me to 603 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 7: run through just quickly what I had. I had John 604 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 7: Halliburton versus Giannis at ten. I had let's see Chris Ballard, 605 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 7: and I think that should be number one now that 606 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 7: I think it should be higher. Yeah, you're right, Chris Ballard, 607 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 7: Shadestike and returning at number nine, which is kind of ironic. 608 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 7: Maybe getting a little start on the twenty twenty six 609 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 7: list there, Penske cheating Scanale, number eight w NBA All 610 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 7: Star Game being in Indie, number seven, and number six. 611 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 7: I have the Sauce Gardner Trey, number five, Philip rivers 612 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 7: On retiring, and then at number four Anthony Richardson being 613 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 7: benched and Daniel Jones starting kind of just that whole 614 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 7: offseason for that number four when it was just very 615 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 7: like just reading into like passing charts in the middle 616 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 7: of July at training camp, like just kind of a 617 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 7: crazy time. 618 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: So I have that. I could definitely splice out some 619 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: of the Colts stuff. I tried to keep it a 620 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: little bit more like kind of statewide and sprinkle in, 621 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: you know, going all the way back to January, but 622 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: typical Colts fashion. You could make your own top ten 623 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: list just to those stories. James, what do you got? 624 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, So to run through it, I had I think 625 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 3: Brayln Mullins and Luke Ardle at number ten going at 626 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: it in the Sectional championship. Number nine, I had the 627 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 3: State Championship of the was it Jeffersonville. I believe they 628 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 3: knocked off Fishers. That was a crazy game over at 629 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 3: gamerge Footthouse. That was awesome. And then I went to 630 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 3: I believe the Fever at number seven, probably brand them 631 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 3: a little too low, to be honest with you, and 632 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 3: then I pivoted to JT's crazy run or crazy game 633 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 3: over in Berlin, and that to me was, you know, 634 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 3: pretty enticing and just crazy how that all un floated. 635 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 3: And then number six Sad Notre Dame finishing as the 636 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 3: national championship runner up. I thought that was honestly a 637 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 3: little more cosmetic than I thought it would be. Kevin 638 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 3: to be honest in that game shots Riley Leonard, now 639 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: a Indianapolis Colt. 640 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: And then at number I guess it's a more personal 641 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: pro personals. 642 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 3: But number five Alex Plow going to my first five 643 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 3: hundred seeing him win it, that was crazy. It was 644 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: a weird data start off that day. If you remember Kevin, 645 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 3: it was a lot of like it was like kind 646 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 3: of slick, kind of cool. People were crashing out sunder League. Yeah, 647 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 3: that was crazy, but I enjoyed my first five hundred. 648 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 3: And then maybe I'm ranking this too low, But I 649 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 3: think the top three are pretty solidified by one other 650 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: player in Indianapolis or Indiana for that matter, which I'm 651 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 3: sure you can guess who that is. But number four 652 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 3: Omar Cooper Junior. The crazy catch against Penn State. 653 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: I thought I saw. I haven't seen the official list, 654 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 2: but I think Sports Center had that really high up 655 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 2: on their top plays of the year period, Neil Cooper catch. 656 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 3: Well, then I think about Halliburd and I'm like, well, 657 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 3: I know, do I make that one moment? 658 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little torn here on the top three. Well, 659 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 2: we'll give that coming up. 660 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 3: I do have one other one outside of the Halliburton 661 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 3: moments that he had in my top third. 662 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: Shoutout to Mark Dyton for the Mark Sanchez story cracking 663 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: his top. 664 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: I think that has an honorable mention on mine. I 665 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: thought that was just honorable mention. 666 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 2: Actually excellent. One thing I'm curious about now that it 667 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 2: looks like the Leonard news is coming out of him. 668 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: Start on Sunday. How much do we see Saturday, Riley Leonard? 669 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: How much do we see Sunday? Riley Leonard? And James 670 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: you just brought up Notre Dames run to the national title. 671 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 2: For anybody that watched Notre Dame and played football last season, 672 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: they were a run centric football team, with Riley Leonard's 673 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 2: legs being a huge part of that. You go back 674 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 2: to the game in Jacksonville, the Colts weren't maybe as 675 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: run centric with Leonard when he got in the game. 676 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you see this like Green Bay with 677 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 2: Malik Willis, I think is a bit of an example 678 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 2: of it. You know, when you turn to your backup, 679 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 2: you know, some of these teams, it's almost a totally 680 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: different playbook of like, hey, this is what our guy 681 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: does best. If you are trying to put rather Leonard 682 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 2: in the most advantageous situations, I think you do treat 683 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 2: him coming up on Sunday like the college quarterback he was. 684 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 2: But if you're trying to grow him as a passer 685 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 2: and you don't necessarily care about the results of the game, 686 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 2: then maybe you do open him up a little bit 687 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 2: more as a passer. It probably won't look pretty, but 688 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 2: that's where he needs growth is as a pocket passer 689 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: in the NFL. So, given the Colts have lost six 690 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: to st eight, I have a feeling they'll opt a 691 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 2: little bit more for Riley as the runner, and you know, 692 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: obviously you're trying to achieve a balance of both of that, 693 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 2: but I am curious what that playbook looks like for 694 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 2: him coming up on Sunday. 695 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 3: I'm with you on that mainly because you do want 696 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 3: to give him that experience, but you don't want to 697 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 3: obviously have him go out there and just not really 698 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 3: gain much from it. 699 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 2: I can hear people. 700 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 3: Arguing, well, what he's going to game from one game 701 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 3: in a meaningless the year point being, you would ideally 702 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 3: want him to play a style of football that would 703 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 3: be something that's conducive to how he would actually play 704 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 3: moving forward, not just getting out there for the sake 705 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 3: of it. 706 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: And that's where I think we get back to like 707 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: these rep debates, you know, with Anthony Richardson in the 708 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 2: preseason in previous years of like it's just so important 709 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: that when you do put those players in the game 710 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 2: that need some growth as a passer, you just you 711 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 2: just throw it. Like we know Richardson's a great runner. 712 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 2: I know Riley Leonard can be an effective player with 713 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 2: his legs in the NFL, yeah for sure, But again 714 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 2: his growth has got to come as a passer. So 715 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 2: how do you achieve that because you know, I am 716 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 2: kind of reminded about this. You think back to last season, James, 717 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 2: and remember the Colts won the season finale, the meaningless 718 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 2: game with Jacksonville, the overtime win over mac Jones. And 719 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 2: do you remember kind of the jubilation in that locker 720 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 2: room and Jim Mersey's comments in that locker room. Yeah, 721 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: you think if the Colts went on Sunday we see 722 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 2: something similar? 723 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 1: Nah, no way, no way. 724 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 2: What do you think of the postgame locker room on Sunday? 725 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 2: I saw Greg Dolph from The Star. I thought it 726 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 2: was a hair two on the content side, if I 727 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 2: could put some words in Greg's mouth. Thought it was 728 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 2: a little bit too. 729 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 3: I did think that there were a couple of moments 730 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 3: where I thought some players should have just read the 731 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,479 Speaker 3: room better. And even if that isn't how you feel 732 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 3: and you're not all doom and gloom, if we're in 733 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 3: there with cameras and mikes and stuff, you probably should 734 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 3: tone it down a bit when it comes to, I 735 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 3: don't know, talking about things other than getting embarrassed again 736 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 3: and blowing another ten point lead in a game. 737 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: Just my thoughts on that. 738 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And honestly more of just like the playoff elimination 739 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 2: that just happened. Yeah, you know, obviously you. 740 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 3: But I also wonder if part of that, the reason 741 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 3: why they reacted like that was because they knew going 742 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,919 Speaker 3: into the game they were already eliminated. So it takes 743 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 3: out the sting because you know, you're going out there 744 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 3: to play a game and be a professional, but there 745 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 3: isn't anything at stake for a do or dyed nature 746 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 3: of you getting into the postseason. 747 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 2: All right, we'll do it one final time, their fan 748 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 2: morning show on a Tuesday