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Speaker 1: Good morning everyone.

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Speaker 2: You made it all the way to Monday, despite the

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Speaker 2: up over the weekend, but there was a lot to

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Speaker 2: and Sunday. Obviously, the Indiana Pacers get back on the

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Speaker 2: right track. Got Caitlin Clark on NBC last night, record

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Speaker 2: setting performance in golf across wins, another major NBA had

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Speaker 2: Sunday Night last night all to themselves. You got the

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Speaker 2: Nicks and the Lakers. Did I miss anything so far? Though?

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Speaker 2: Some great high school basketball over the weekend too, James,

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Speaker 2: welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, glad to be back. I can't say I watched

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Speaker 3: everything over the weekend, but back to fielding like myself.

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Speaker 1: So well, it's good to have you here. Kevin Bowen,

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Speaker 1: good morning. How you doing today?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I would say it's ball meat compared

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Speaker 4: to what it was last Monday.

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Speaker 1: Right, we have been at the point twenties, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Which I mean even weather updates right, hell for twenties groundhog.

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Speaker 4: I mean it might be naked today when I tries

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Speaker 4: to see a shadow here. So yes, good Monday morning

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Speaker 4: to you. Certainly busy weekend on the hardwood, and here

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Speaker 4: we are super Bowl week us here.

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Speaker 2: I had read last night that if it doesn't get

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Speaker 2: over freezing today and it's supposed to be at thirty

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Speaker 2: again for like four or five days. And it's already

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Speaker 2: been almost a week without getting over freezing. It's crazy stuff,

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Speaker 2: but it was a lot of fun. I stayed inside,

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Speaker 2: watched a lot of sports, went and saw my son

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Speaker 2: play at a music competition out of Ben Davis High

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Speaker 2: School on Saturday, where a lot of high school kids

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Speaker 1: So that was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: But then it was time to just settle in and

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Speaker 2: watch a bunch of basketball and men. Was I rewarded

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Speaker 2: when I was Saturday night checking out Indiana and they

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Speaker 2: and they're starting to find themselves a little bit with

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Speaker 1: Starting to feel pretty good.

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Speaker 4: Kevin, Yeah, one of the wilder games you'll see. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 4: they played so so great for thirty eight thirty nine

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Speaker 4: final minute or so yeah, again, Nick Dorn just adds

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Speaker 4: something for him. You know, we talked about it about

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Speaker 4: a week and a half ago that game at Rutgers.

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Speaker 4: It's a very different starting group when he is out

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Speaker 4: there versus Tayton Connorway. And I know injury has played

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Speaker 4: to beat Purdue and to go to UCLA and went

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Speaker 4: on the road. That is exactly what their resume needed.

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Speaker 4: It's a little bit of house money tomorrow night against

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Speaker 4: usc A round out this road trip. So a great

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Speaker 4: and needed week for the Indiana Hoosiers. And again Daron

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Speaker 2: And more Pacers news coming up in a few minutes too,

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Speaker 2: regarding the All Star Game, so stay tuned for that

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Speaker 2: coming up in the checkdown.

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Speaker 1: But James also, I like, are you just getting excited? Giddy?

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Speaker 1: Can't wait pacing walking up.

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Speaker 2: And down the stairways at your place waiting for the

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Speaker 2: flag football game Tuesday night for the National Football League?

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Speaker 3: Not a chance is that one?

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Speaker 1: It is? I had to look it up. I think

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Speaker 3: Was because I saw that John Taylor was there along

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Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like me and you can get

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Speaker 3: what it is. I'm just ready for the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I think you're making reference to the fact that Shador

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Speaker 3: It's not just I feel I felt this way for

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Speaker 4: This is Joe flacko thing real, Joe fla there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's another thing where I'm just like I

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Speaker 3: that's like the first Pro Bowl nod of Joe Flacco's career.

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Speaker 3: And not that you want a Super Bowl or anything,

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Speaker 2: When that's a Cleveland Browns quarterback right there, Man, you

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Speaker 3: Now, quarterback tree And I just think of a tree,

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Speaker 2: Do we want Jonathan Taylor be playing in that flag

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Speaker 3: Sure, I mean what is playing? Is it just standing

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Speaker 2: They said flag football game. I take taking them at

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Speaker 2: a lot of great outcomes because it seems like you

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Speaker 2: never want this for anybody, but Kevin.

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Speaker 1: You get a bunch of guys out there that are

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Speaker 2: You don't want somebody to break an ankle or do

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Speaker 1: Like, I don't know what.

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Speaker 2: We do with the Pro Bowl, but I don't want

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It just feels weird to me.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of crazy. We've gotten to this, can you

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Speaker 4: Like we used to play a real football game, like

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Speaker 4: Sean Taylor used to decapitate a punt he did. How

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Speaker 2: Well, that's where we're at right now, and so much

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Speaker 2: We had been talking about the rebounding in the last

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Speaker 1: But they didn't have a.

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Speaker 2: Problem rebounding the other day that I know that they

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Speaker 1: They looked like the Purdue team they're supposed to be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the ultimate slumpbuster of the Maryland Terrapins this season.

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Speaker 2: I was looking at that Maryland game and there was

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Speaker 3: Hey man, that's a dedication. I had a dedication right there.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we should all came in wearing headbands today.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of things we could have worn on our heads.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Pascal Siakam and now four time All

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Speaker 3: it has happened. So congrats to him.

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Speaker 2: We want him to keep adding to that resume over

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Speaker 2: the next four years, five years, right, Kevin boy, let's go.

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Speaker 4: I know James is out a few days. I'm exhausting

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Speaker 4: of the Hall of Fame debate. So James, I'll let

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Speaker 3: Fame Residen yeah, I have no opinions on that, and.

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Speaker 4: I tend to think the basketball just kind of participate

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Speaker 3: That's why I'm looking at some of these names that

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Speaker 3: Not a bad decision to make, possibly.

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Speaker 4: But I well deserved for Pascal Siakam And honestly, this

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Speaker 4: look like when Tyrus Haliburton gets back and what is

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Speaker 4: Benedict Matheren's future with this team? So back to back

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Speaker 4: tonight tomorrow, Houston. Know, Kevin Durant tonight. So for our

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Speaker 4: Kevin Durant's loan meeting here, I believe it's only the

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Speaker 4: third game he's missed all season. Kevin Durant is out

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Speaker 4: for tonight.

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Speaker 2: Go back to Saturday and you're talking about the Pacers

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Speaker 2: It is the Morning Checkdown live from the Drive hubow

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Speaker 2: dot com studios. Gentlemen, Pascal Siakama is indeed at All Star.

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Speaker 2: He's been named to the reserve squad for the Eastern

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Speaker 2: All Right, PACER's getting a win over the Hawks on

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Speaker 1: Tip No.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant out with a I have to ankle. Spring

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Speaker 2: College hoops yesterday. Pridue brings an end to their losing

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Speaker 1: He was seven of ten from three point range.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jamv tweeted me yesterday and told me Fletcher Lawyer

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Speaker 3: Was it the Texas coach who said, like, I leave

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Speaker 3: So, boy, at twenty two, what was I doing? I

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Speaker 1: He's thirty four years old. Now let's see what happens.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't even challenged.

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Speaker 4: That was one of the more dominant performances we've seen

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Speaker 2: And my favorite part of the weekend Mark we had

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Speaker 1: Let's go The Bruins were.

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Speaker 2: Leading the Lightning five to two in the second period,

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Speaker 2: And the one mistake that Swayman made he did not

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Speaker 4: In, Yeah, I think we're finished. It sounds like NFL

440
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Speaker 4: head coaching cycle. Clint Kubiak, the new head coach of

441
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Speaker 4: for Nanda Mendoza.

442
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Speaker 1: That's what they're talking about.

443
00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:46,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, So the Raiders that report and then Mike LeFleur

444
00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,040
Speaker 4: to Arizona. So I think if you add it all up,

445
00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,199
Speaker 4: that is now ten openings that have been filled. I

446
00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,800
Speaker 4: assume that means lou Anrumo is staying with the Indianapolis Colts,

447
00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,840
Speaker 4: will await Jim Bob Cooter and potentially, you know, the

448
00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,320
Speaker 4: domino fact that they can come off of that. You know,

449
00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,200
Speaker 4: does Seattle now need a new offensive coordinator with Clint Kubiak,

450
00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,760
Speaker 4: you know, reportedly going to the Raiders. There, so looks

451
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Speaker 4: like a Super Bowl week is here. We have finished

452
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Speaker 4: that off, all right?

453
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Speaker 2: Coming up at a moment, we'll talk more about the

454
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Speaker 2: Pacers with an All Star on the way and Indiana

455
00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,199
Speaker 2: gets a big win over the weekend, what does it

456
00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,600
Speaker 2: mean for their tournament future? It's all straight ahead at

457
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Speaker 2: ninety three five and one oh seven five of.

458
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Speaker 1: The fan going back in time there, Mark think, then,

459
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Speaker 1: I like it.

460
00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 4: It's Groundhog Day, I know.

461
00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,040
Speaker 1: So today tomorrow. I always thought a second, isn't that right?

462
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 8: Now?

463
00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 1: Is Phil doing his thing?

464
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,399
Speaker 5: That rat is hiding out in Poksatani and is about

465
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:42,159
Speaker 5: to let us.

466
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,320
Speaker 4: Know what the deal is with the weather?

467
00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,840
Speaker 2: Saw a shadow, James almost saw his shadow went back

468
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:47,919
Speaker 2: into his room this morning.

469
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Speaker 3: Almost almost made a crazy joke there, but I'll leave

470
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Speaker 3: it at that.

471
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Speaker 2: It is Monday, and yeah, you're right, second of February

472
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Speaker 2: I keep thinking it's the first today gemming out of

473
00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 2: the weekend, mark, so thank you. But yeah, Pascal Siakam

474
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,359
Speaker 2: named an All Star for the Indiana Pacers, and they

475
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,359
Speaker 2: do have a very interesting thing going on here in

476
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,239
Speaker 2: the second half of the year.

477
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Speaker 1: You've been talking about it for.

478
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Speaker 2: About a week now, Kevin, and we've been discussing it

479
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Speaker 2: as well. They're starting to kind of look like a

480
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 2: team we thought they would be without Tyrese Haliburton at

481
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 2: the beginning of the season. And at that point in time,

482
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Speaker 2: I thought, you know, thirty five wins, maybe forty wins?

483
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 2: Are they gonna a lot of people are now worried

484
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,880
Speaker 2: they're going to play themselves right out of the top

485
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 2: six or seven real quick.

486
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,879
Speaker 4: The groundhog has seen a shadow. Six more ros.

487
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 1: It's done. We have breaking news. Yeah.

488
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 3: See, you had a better chance with me because walking

489
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 3: out at about six forty five in the morning, hard

490
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 3: to see my shadow.

491
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 5: When did the groundhogs get retired? Like, it's no way,

492
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,879
Speaker 5: that's an og? Where do I go with that?

493
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 4: James?

494
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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm just saying, you know, hey, ask me a question.

495
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Speaker 4: I answered. I saw a tweet yesterday where Phil sees

496
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Speaker 4: his shadow. We put Phil on the grill, man, I

497
00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 4: know that was politically correct to say, but we fire

498
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 4: it up with the week we just had Mark Dyton

499
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 4: turned on the gas.

500
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Speaker 2: Right, did you guys check out Kaitlyn Clark on NBC

501
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 2: on Basketball Night in America?

502
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 4: That had to be an AI video right when Peyton

503
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Speaker 4: when Reggie Miller compared her to Peyton Pritchard.

504
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,679
Speaker 3: Dude, Okay, So I've been around Kaitlyn and that was

505
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 3: not real. Correct, that was real. But I will say we.

506
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Speaker 4: Might as well stop in the twenty twenty six dumbest

507
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Speaker 4: comments I've ever seen. I've been for Caitlyn Clark, h rogie,

508
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 4: what are we doing?

509
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Speaker 3: Dude? He is a a comedian And then I've been

510
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 3: around her, but he was serious. I think he was serious.

511
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 3: But the funny part about Caitlyn is that she is

512
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Speaker 3: always I would say correct in the way she expresses

513
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Speaker 3: herself for the amount of fame that she has, Like,

514
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Speaker 3: I can't think back to many missteps that Kaitlyn has

515
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Speaker 3: had when it comes to being in the public eye,

516
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 3: but boy, her facial expressions are so funny having been

517
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 3: around her the last couple of years, because if you

518
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 3: go back and watch that clip.

519
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 4: She doesn't hide body like when he's that Peyton Richard.

520
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 3: Her body language shifted immediately. And this is my thing

521
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 3: with the legends who are on these shows. And it's fine.

522
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 3: We all have our takes. I'm sure we've all said

523
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 3: dumb stuff here on the radio, and normally Mark will

524
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 3: give us a buzzer or one of us will call

525
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 3: your other out. They just let him do that, and I'm.

526
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, mellow, mellow, need to stuff. Yeah.

527
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 3: The rest of the show, we did wait a second here, Reggie,

528
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Speaker 3: are you drunk right now? Or what's going on? That

529
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 3: was so funny, kayln No, I don't think your NBA

530
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 3: comparison is Peyton Pritcher, but boy, the reaction was so funny.

531
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Speaker 2: Do you have a little Kaitlyn Clark making her debut

532
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 2: on NBC last night?

533
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 1: Mark is Mark?

534
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 4: Give me there?

535
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 3: I guess we got to working on something there.

536
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Speaker 1: He's got headphones on the show.

537
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Speaker 4: That means I'm going to be in trouble enough to

538
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 4: grill for philm.

539
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Speaker 1: I know, Mark, are you there? You available?

540
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Speaker 4: We have you?

541
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Speaker 5: No, He's not trying to pull the Peyton Pritchard clip,

542
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 5: but she looks like someone just told her her grandmother

543
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 5: died or something like that.

544
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I literally, I mean that's kind of the life.

545
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 4: I guess. I don't know if you all live it now,

546
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 4: But like every time I see a ridiculous video like that,

547
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 4: I just assume it's AI And I was like, wait,

548
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 4: is that real? That that can't be real?

549
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 3: How much basketball do you think Reggie actually watches outside

550
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 3: of the games he has to call, because.

551
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Speaker 4: I mean he's on Dan Patrick like each week I died.

552
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 3: But then last week on Dan Patrick he said that

553
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 3: Derek Rose Lebron James were rivals for six to eight years.

554
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Derek Rose was good for like some light years.

555
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 4: Some of the historical stuff I can let slide a little,

556
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 4: like when you go back. But comparing Caitlin Clark to

557
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 4: like whatever a nice bensic. Yeah, I'm just like, what

558
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 4: in the world?

559
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Speaker 3: So that was rough?

560
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Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to her. I mean I did catch

561
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Speaker 4: a little bit of it.

562
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Speaker 1: I thought she was good.

563
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Speaker 4: She had some you know, CBA comments. She seems pretty

564
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 4: confident that something is going to get done here soon.

565
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Speaker 4: I mean, we are what two months away from training camp,

566
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 4: two and a half months away from training camp, Like

567
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 4: it is kind of nearing nearing, so we'll await that

568
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 4: from a WNBA standpoint.

569
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Speaker 2: And she I think she split in the head to

570
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: head two games with Jamal Crawford and NBC instead of

571
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 2: pig or Horse, they played NBC.

572
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 3: So who is her NBA comparison? It probably is Steph Right,

573
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of somebody else who shoots it

574
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 3: very well distributes Damian Lillar when he's healthy. But let's

575
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Speaker 3: start there, Reggie. Let's start with an all star caliber player.

576
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Speaker 1: A point guard that shoots threes deathly three.

577
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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, those are the two that come to

578
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Speaker 3: mind for me. I'm trying to think of others. Tree,

579
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Speaker 3: Young maybe, but.

580
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Halliburton, I think is a very fine and fair

581
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 4: comparison there, and she goes he goes Peyton Pritchard on her.

582
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Halliburn comparison is a layup for especially for

583
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Speaker 3: the guy who is Indiana. Is the legend from Indiana?

584
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Speaker 3: Boy Boy, Boy Boy. Shout out to Reggie miller Man,

585
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Speaker 3: comedian that.

586
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Speaker 1: Was on my TV for a while last night.

587
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Speaker 2: I didn't even realize that I had missed it until

588
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Speaker 2: this morning when I woke up and started checking social

589
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Speaker 2: media feeds.

590
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Speaker 1: Mark did you pay attention to the Grammys at all

591
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: last night? Not totally off my radar, not a sound

592
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: totally off my radar.

593
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 3: I did watch a little bit of it. I like

594
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Speaker 3: to see some performances. Shout out Olivia Dean. I feel

595
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 3: like every song she touches is gold. Just the vibes

596
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 3: are great whenever I hear her saying, and so for

597
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 3: that reason alone, I'll watch. But yeah, there's always some

598
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Speaker 3: artists somewhere that does something and one of these performances,

599
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, I have no idea what any

600
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: of that meant, but I guess it artistic expression. So

601
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,239
Speaker 3: congrats whoever that is.

602
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: And any thoughts at all on what you did see,

603
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: Who was the big winner anything like that. Anybody walk

604
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: away with a huge hall last night?

605
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Speaker 3: Well, shout out to Kitch Lamar. I believe he's now

606
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: the biggest Grammy award winning artist in hip hop history.

607
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 3: I believe he has twenty six of Grammys, which is

608
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Speaker 3: the most all time now, which is just crazy to

609
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 3: think about it. I'm like, Wow, if you win one Grammy,

610
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 3: you're a legend. You win twenty six, it's like you

611
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 3: win every year. So yeah, that was about it. But

612
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 3: my sister probably tells me more about this later today

613
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: when I catch up with her, because she was all

614
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: about it. I tried to call her and you know,

615
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Speaker 3: do the whole family thing and how how are you

616
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: and she was like, yeah, watching the Grammy, so I'll

617
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 3: have to call you back later. You didn't get that

618
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 3: call back.

619
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Speaker 2: I'm just curious, with so much going on this past weekend,

620
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: where were your what was your sports focus over the weekend, Kevin,

621
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: was so much happening.

622
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 4: Well, a lot of basketball. I mean it was pretty

623
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 4: spread out. I mean, honestly, I mean that was really,

624
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 4: to be honest, I was a really poor loss for

625
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 4: Butler on Saturday. I mean, Butler's at a point right

626
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 4: now where you have got to control certainly home floor

627
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 4: and then steal you know, Yukon coming up a week

628
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 4: from Wednesday. You know, they've got at Villanova a little

629
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 4: bit later this month there. So that was a very

630
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 4: very brutal loss for Butler and just a horrific second

631
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 4: half shooting the basketball there. And then obviously the Indiana

632
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 4: game that we've chatted about was just one of the

633
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 4: wilder college basketball games certainly they've played this season. You know,

634
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 4: the amount of foul obviously blowing the lead. They played

635
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 4: so well. I guess start there. You play so well

636
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 4: for thirty five thirty eight minutes and you blow the lead,

637
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 4: you think yourself, there's no way. Then the foul trouble

638
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: starts to go against them. They're losing guys, and yet

639
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 4: they're to make the plays there. And Trent Silessly had

640
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 4: some wild drives there late in the game, and then

641
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 4: he has the KNACKI just kind of flick one up

642
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 4: there at the end of the second overtime and then

643
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: hit the free throw for the win there and then Perdue.

644
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 4: You know, the ultimate slumtbuster in the Big Ten this

645
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 4: season tends to be Buzz Williams Maryland Terrapins. And Purdue

646
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: needed that. Fletcher Lawyer needed that. And all you need

647
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 4: to do is watch the first five minutes of that game,

648
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 4: and that told you everything you needed to know about Purdue.

649
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 4: So yeah, good amount of hoops on. I watched a

650
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 4: little bit of that BYU Kansas game. I don't know

651
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 4: if you guys caught that.

652
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: I did not see that, boy, yes I did.

653
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Speaker 4: Kevin Pritchard in the building, A lot of NBA scouts

654
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 4: in the building for Ajdabantza and Darren Peterson. And I

655
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 4: think the Darren Peterson draft debate is going to be fascinating.

656
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 4: That dude is an incredible talent. I tend to think

657
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 4: he is the best player in the draft. But you're

658
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 4: telling me he didn't play in the second half because

659
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 4: of cramps. And you watch him on the bench, he

660
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 4: looked like you should be front row the Kansas student section,

661
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 4: and like this is the fifth or sixth time this

662
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 4: season Kansas had a very meaningful game with critical whatever

663
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 4: you want to state about you know the Big twelve standings,

664
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 4: and you know another ranked team and if you want

665
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 4: to play the debansa card and he's not playing, and

666
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 4: it always seems to be whatever an ankle, a hamstring.

667
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 4: It's like, wait a minute here, if he can't play

668
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 4: a thirty game college basketball season, what do you project

669
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 4: for an eighty two night NBA season? Or is this

670
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 4: just purely load management by his team? Is this the

671
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 4: reality of where we're at in today's world of college

672
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 4: sports where his team looks at him and says, you

673
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 4: know what, and by team I mean agent, you know whatever, handlers?

674
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 4: They say, dude, just play twenty minutes you're incredible. Look,

675
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 4: if you watch the first half yesterday year or Saturday,

676
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 4: you're blown away by what he showed, and then all

677
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 4: of a sudden he's not playing in the second half.

678
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 4: It's just the whole situation. This seems so weird. Bill

679
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 4: selfs transparency, lack of transparency. I don't know. I'm very

680
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 4: torn on it.

681
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bizarre situation. And I'll read this off

682
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 3: for you, Kevin, because it is truly nuts to me.

683
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: So he's only played in eleven of Kansas's Kansas I'm sorry,

684
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: twenty one games. He's only finished one of them, one

685
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: finished game out of eleven. You played half of the

686
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: games this year. And I don't know if he's trying

687
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: to play through injury. So we should give him credit.

688
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 3: But at some point, the only thing that would maybe

689
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: hesitate towards choosing him number one overall is if this

690
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: leg stuff is chronic. Like I'm sorry, I hate to

691
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: say it. Maybe I'm a little old school in my

692
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: thirty years of you know, living here on this earth,

693
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 3: but cramps? Is he not drinking enough water?

694
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 7: Like?

695
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 3: How come you haven't figured this out? And you know what,

696
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think back Actually, I want to say

697
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 3: it might have been a couple of years ago with

698
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: Paalo ben Caro for Duke, he had cramp issues early

699
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: in the season and then they figured it out at

700
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: some point and he was able to play. You haven't

701
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 3: heard about the cramp stuff since it is February, Like,

702
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 3: why is this still happening to him? I don't get

703
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: that part of it, Like if it was an issue

704
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 3: early in the season, is it conditioning? Is it you're

705
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: not staying hydrated enough? Is your body composition? Something? Is

706
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 3: something going on? Should you get tested to see? Like

707
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: why you're cramping so much? I don't get it. But

708
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: the bottom line is it's almost like you have to

709
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: bank on the fact that you're only gonna get a

710
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: half of basketball out of him, and.

711
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: So got eighteen points out of him.

712
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 3: That that's what I'm saying, Like that the half, Jeff,

713
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 3: It's spectacular. The dude looked like freaking Michael Jordan out there,

714
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: and I'm actually not kidding. He looked like it was unbelievable.

715
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: And then I was watching the game like where is he?

716
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 3: And yeah, he played a few minutes to start second half,

717
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 3: and that was it.

718
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: You want a crazy conspiracy theory in this day and

719
00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: age of nil.

720
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: I mean, free, free, I'll come play for you, but

721
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: if I don't need to be playing, I want to

722
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: preserve my body for the NBA.

723
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 9: Boy.

724
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you heard crazier things these days. I'm not

725
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: saying that's the case.

726
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: But my point is, with all the stories that we hear,

727
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: does it not at.

728
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: Least run through the back of your head?

729
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: It definitely runs thro your mind, like it's gonna be

730
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: a question that comes up.

731
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 4: Well again the interview he does. Should that be a

732
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 4: red flag? You know, because to me it's very obvious,

733
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 4: like we're not debating necessarily, like, oh man, how do

734
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 4: you think he's going to grow and guard whatever bigger

735
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: wings or how do you think bigger wings are going

736
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 4: to defend him at the NBA level? Like that's kind

737
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 4: of a difficult projection you do with every prospect With him,

738
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 4: there's this clear issue, albeit a murky one, like we

739
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 4: don't necessarily know the root of it, but like he

740
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 4: doesn't play. I mean, James just rattled off the back

741
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 4: of the baseball card. Here. The guy barely plays.

742
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: He's went in half the games and only finished one,

743
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: and he's what like twenty years old, if that nineteen.

744
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: And we're seeing for those who haven't followed his story

745
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 4: Kansas this year, it has been a lot of this

746
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 4: where like he's incredible for the first twenty minutes or

747
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 4: twenty five minutes and then just stops playing. I forget

748
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 4: which game they had. It was one of those big

749
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 4: Monday games where he didn't play the overtimes, like he

750
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 4: was unreal. It was a huge reason why the game

751
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 4: even got to overtime and then didn't play in the ots.

752
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 4: And it's like, wait a minute, what is going on here?

753
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 4: And it's like if you are a team and you're

754
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: getting ready to draft said player, there seems to be

755
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 4: this obvious question you have with him, like no way

756
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 4: are we going to touch that? Like that is there

757
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 4: is something going on here that is not adding up whatsoever.

758
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 4: And again you're projecting the season, that's what almost three

759
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 4: times as long tack on playoff games. I mean, how

760
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 4: many games the Pacers play last year over one hundred,

761
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 4: and this guy's not able to make it through a

762
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 4: thirty game season here. So boy, I who knows. Maybe

763
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 4: the Pacers will start winning too much so that this

764
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 4: won't be a debate for him.

765
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: But well, in all seriousness, it really makes you want or,

766
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: as James said, is he nursing some kind of undisclosed

767
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: injury that he can kind of play with but they

768
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: don't want to make it worse.

769
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: It's kind of kind of weird.

770
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: Man, it is very weird. I mean I'm looking at

771
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: him and I was like, boy, you pair that six

772
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: to six guard with Tyre's Halliburton, and I see great

773
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 3: things for the PACER's future. But no team can. Yeah,

774
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: you can't invest the number one pick in the guy.

775
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 3: You don't know if his laser gonna work at the

776
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: next level. So it's all very bizarre. But I will

777
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 3: say this, it took one half of basketball to tell

778
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: me who the most talented player is in college basketball.

779
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: He went right at aj Debanza and then look normal.

780
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 4: And again he has looked like that a lot this year.

781
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 4: Like that was not just a one game sort of thing.

782
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 4: I mean, he when he does play, it's a world

783
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 4: of talent. But good luck sifting through that.

784
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 3: In one of our YouTube commentaris, with a hilarious name

785
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 3: and It'll be injured, Indiana says, I could see Peterson

786
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 3: being Markel Foltz or Kyrie Irving, no middle ground. Boy,

787
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: that scary stuff right there, because Kyrie Hall of Famer

788
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: Marco Foltz, I don't even know where he is right

789
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: now in the NBA.

790
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 4: And honestly, I'd feel almost a little better if this

791
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 4: was just like one injury. Right, there's a lot. I mean,

792
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 4: it seems like every one game it's cramps, then it's

793
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 4: the hamstring, then it's the ankle. It's like there's and

794
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 4: then it's like did he practice, did he not practice?

795
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 4: There's just a and I get college athletics, there is

796
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 4: a general lack of transparency, like there's not as clear cut.

797
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 4: I know we've tried to adopt the injury reports that

798
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 4: come out, but there's still not a lot of detail

799
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 4: behind players that are injured.

800
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: Here.

801
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 3: But then he barely speaks, so you don't know, like

802
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 3: you can't ask him what is going on with you?

803
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 10: Right?

804
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: Right? Right?

805
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: So West chimes in on the text line says, the

806
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: rumor is that he's had a lingering hamstring issue for

807
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: most of the season, which would kind of make sense

808
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: if you're trying to nurse something and not make it

809
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: worse but still get some time in.

810
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 4: Right.

811
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, But then I'm also like, well, then shut him

812
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 3: down and get him one hundred percent for the tournament.

813
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

814
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: It's all very weird, but shout out to Kevin Pritcher

815
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 3: for being boots on the around. There had a Turtlenet

816
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 3: go on, my boy, KP was clean. I was like, okay,

817
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: college right, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I'm sure he

818
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: goes back off them. But you know there were other uh,

819
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: there was other business to attend to on that particular day.

820
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 2: Kevin DJN Indy says drafting on athleticism can be scary.

821
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: Ask Ballard think about Peersonol. He's not just athletic. He

822
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 2: can play basketball.

823
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 4: No, no, no, he is. He's a great basketball player.

824
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 4: It's more of like, can you hold that last eighty two?

825
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 4: And I'm not even saying eighty two? And I tell

826
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 4: he lasts.

827
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: Fifty boy already loan in the bar for a nineteen

828
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: year old. This doesn't feel good.

829
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 4: But it's helping you to play like they are.

830
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 3: It won't matter.

831
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 4: They'll be drafting Brydon Smith.

832
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: Let's speaking of college basketball. Big win for Indiana. They

833
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: got another quad one win. Mark, do you have that?

834
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: Darren Deviz talking about where his team stands right now

835
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: with getting that big one in UCLA and where they

836
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: go from here, Like I really have like a.

837
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 11: Zerial concern about that right now. To me, it's just

838
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 11: win the next game, and like I said, if you

839
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 11: stack up enough with them, it'll be what it's.

840
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 3: Going to be.

841
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 11: But we can't worry about stuff. I'm gonnall only worry

842
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 11: about it. It would be usc and control what we can

843
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 11: control right in front of us. And and but you know,

844
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 11: in the big picture, yeah, they mean something, Yeah, absolutely,

845
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 11: but in order to make it, you got to beat

846
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 11: those teams. And you know, those are two really good

847
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 11: wins that you know.

848
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm curious still.

849
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 2: Well, I love the fact that he's like, I can't worry

850
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: about that. You win the games, It'll take care of itself.

851
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I also feel like if we had a

852
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 3: dollar for every coast's that control we can control, would

853
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 3: be very rich men right now.

854
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 4: But it's true though, Oh yeah, who's listen to the

855
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 4: final five seconds. I mean, he admits finally, yes, the

856
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 4: first twenty seconds, he doesn't say anything. In the final

857
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 4: five he admits full well what that means to him. Yeah,

858
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 4: it was a massive week for Indiana it's really one

859
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 4: of the better weeks we've seen in college basketball this year.

860
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 4: I mean, you get a top whatever, top ten, top

861
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 4: fifteen win, and then you come back and you get

862
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 4: a ranked road win. That's a quad one win. I mean,

863
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 4: that's that's a great, great week for a resume that

864
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 4: had zero substance seven days ago. And now tomorrow night

865
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 4: it's really house money. They'll get another opportunity. It is

866
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 4: another quad one road win. And you know, the thing

867
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 4: about Indiana is, you know there are times over a

868
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 4: college basketball season where you have, you know, ups and downs,

869
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 4: and you know whatever, the team that you are in

870
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 4: December might not be the TVR in February and vice versa.

871
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 4: But Indiana is legitimately a different team with Nick Dorn,

872
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 4: Like he wasn't healthy early in the season, it took

873
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 4: him a while to then get into the rotation. There

874
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 4: was a flash or two in the non conference, but

875
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 4: now you know, he's playing whatever twenty thirty minutes a night.

876
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 4: He's in the starting lineup, and it's a totally different

877
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 4: starting lineup with him versus the second point guard and

878
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 4: Taton Connorway. And so you know that's where I think

879
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 4: you you kind of rewrite Indiana season now of like, no,

880
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 4: this is a different starting lineup than the one that

881
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 4: whatever struggled and lost to Minnesota, or you know, was

882
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 4: it without that quality quality win until last week. So

883
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 4: we'll see how it continues to unfold here. But boy,

884
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: I was that was a wild one, and I would

885
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 4: say Indiana got a nice littleroad whistle if he asked

886
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 4: mc cronin post came there happy being given to Indiana

887
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 4: their underneathron basket.

888
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 2: When it looked like it clearly went off the Indiana

889
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 2: players fingertips there.

890
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, to say he was not happy, it would be

891
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 4: an understanding. Oh, I don't even know. Is Mick cronan

892
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 4: ever happy?

893
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: No.

894
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: Someone that was asking him about the game, and he

895
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 3: was like, see I'm not one of those other guys

896
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 3: when we lose. I see no hope.

897
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 4: But I was like, what is going on?

898
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 3: Like he needs to land on the couch somewhere. But

899
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 3: it makes for very funny soundbites. I don't think he

900
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 3: answered any question that was asked of him. It was

901
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: just like him cutting off the reporter and then being

902
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: very negative. Boy, the self talk with him has to

903
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 3: be very bad.

904
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: James, did you see, Illinois moved into a tie for

905
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: first place in the Big Ten with a road win

906
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: at Nebraska off this weekend.

907
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 3: We might be the best team in the Big Ten.

908
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 3: I'm not actually saying that as a joke. They are

909
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: legitimately a great basketball team right now. Rowland think it's

910
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: eleven straight.

911
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 4: So does this dude the top ten pick.

912
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 3: Keith Woggler, Yeah, he's raising his stock. I mean, I'll

913
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: be honest, I did not expect this from him at all.

914
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 3: I figured he'd be a pretty good freshman. But yeah,

915
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: he's turned into one of the best players in the country.

916
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 4: Like, we're not there yet. And again, ping pong balls

917
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 4: can go a slew different ways. But if indeed the

918
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 4: Pacers continue to win, then do we have to start

919
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 4: shifting our thinking a little bit here to Woggler, the

920
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 4: kid from Houston, you know, a little bit more of

921
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 4: the back end of that lottery there that isn't Debanza Peterson,

922
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 4: Caleb Wilson, you know boozer like that. You know, again,

923
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 4: who knows the odds? You know, can literally are a

924
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 4: coin flip. But that might be a conversation that we

925
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 4: have to have here.

926
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: Mark is very upset that you have mastered the name

927
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 2: Caleb Wilson. Now I saw the hand hovering.

928
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 3: Over there, I will say Keithon Wagler six six and

929
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: so one of my things when it comes to drafting

930
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 3: guards early is like if you got the size that

931
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 3: that helps a ton.

932
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: All I know is last time I saw him, he

933
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: was just filling it up from three point range.

934
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: Last week we had the forty, he was doing that.

935
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: We got a lot going on today. Nathan Brown coming

936
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: up at eight thirty this morning. We'll talk basketball to

937
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 2: him too. What we talk a lot kinds of things

938
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: is nine o'clock Alex Golden going to stop by Pacers

939
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: coming off to win. They've got the Rockets in town tonight. Know,

940
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, I would have left ankle sprain?

941
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: Is that what I saw? Ankle spray?

942
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, just the third game he has missed all season long.

943
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, again, I think for some fans out there,

944
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 4: particularly fans with you know, young kids, you know, when

945
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 4: you see the Western Conference teams pop up in the schedule,

946
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 4: they only come here once. And so a little bit

947
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 4: of a bummer here that Kevin Durant is out for

948
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 4: this one back to back for the Pacers, not the rockets.

949
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 4: The Pacers have Hawks jazz. We've seen Siakam sit the

950
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 4: second night of back to backs. I feel like recently

951
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 4: here we saw the Pacers sit a ton of guys.

952
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 4: Is that back to back in Detroit about a week

953
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 4: and a half ago, a couple of weeks ago. So

954
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 4: just have my eye for tomorrow night. Maybe obviously no

955
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 4: travel with this back to back. The Pacers will be

956
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 4: at home tonight and tomorrow. But something to keep an

957
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 4: eye on here.

958
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: All right, that's all coming up in the next hour

959
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 2: and a half, two hours or so. Thanks so much

960
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 2: for joining us this morning on another Monday. You made

961
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: it all the way to the weekend. And what'd you say, Punksatani?

962
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 2: Phil has seen his shadow, Mark seen his shadow.

963
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 5: Fire up the propane, get the grill going. We're getting

964
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 5: rid of that road.

965
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: I see Mark going over the cliff and in a

966
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: truck right now, That's what I see.

967
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: It's all straight ahead.

968
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 4: I'll bring that roading with us.

969
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: Seven.

970
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 10: You were listening to a fan morning show on sports

971
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 10: Radio three five and while I was seven the Fast.

972
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: This once for you, Mark. We got a nice little.

973
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: Note from Purdue USI Dad on the groundhog seeing his

974
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 2: shadow this morning. It's a picture of a wolf who

975
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: says the groundhog said six more weeks of winter.

976
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 4: So I ate him groundhog and kick rocks.

977
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 2: You come out, you put yourself at risk. That's how

978
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: it goes. James Boyd, Good morning, every one, Welcome to

979
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: the Fan Morning Show. It his Groundhog Day. He did

980
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: see his shadow. So you got that to look forward

981
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: to if you are a cold weather fan, because you're

982
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: getting lots more cold weather over the.

983
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: Next week or so. But it feels almost balmy today, doesn't.

984
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: It fell a lot better than had a week ago.

985
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 3: I saw you know you live in the Midwest, man.

986
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 3: You get twenty degrees and it's like, man, it feels great.

987
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: Got spoiled with some fairly mild winters over the past

988
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: five six years.

989
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: It feels like Kevan. But here we are.

990
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 4: I ain't calling this cold, I'm calling it. This a

991
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 4: heat wave. Man, this feels great. Might get up to

992
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 4: thirty one today as long as the car is starting.

993
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 4: Are we done with delays and cancelations?

994
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: Right?

995
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 12: Oh?

996
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: Also good? I hope.

997
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: So as a parent of three, god, I hope. So

998
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 2: how's that affect your house? With everybody still pretty young?

999
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 4: Not too bad just.

1000
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 5: Because Ashley works at one of the schools, so two

1001
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 5: hour delay doesn't affect her too much. But yeah, the

1002
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 5: full on cancelation, thank god, is on a Monday.

1003
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: Thank going.

1004
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: You're there for take care though you've said before, right,

1005
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: you're good to go?

1006
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I couldn't you know, baby said last week

1007
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 3: I had to take one for the team and sit

1008
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: out a couple of days and one getting body's sick.

1009
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 3: But now uncle James is back in action, so him

1010
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: me up, all right.

1011
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: So here's what we got going on today.

1012
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: Pascal Siaka named as an All Star the Eastern Conference reserves.

1013
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: Well deserved and look, there would have been there would

1014
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: have been some upset this morning had he not been

1015
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: named that, because he has been carrying the load and

1016
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 2: he plays night.

1017
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: In, night out.

1018
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: He brings it every night, doesn't matter who he's playing against,

1019
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: what position he's playing.

1020
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: They had him that there.

1021
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: At times we've talked about what they've been doing at

1022
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: the five spot. They've had him on a five fairly

1023
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 2: often this year.

1024
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think looking at the nature of the selection,

1025
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 3: since it wasn't by the fans or by the media,

1026
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 3: the reserves I believe are chosen just by the coaches,

1027
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 3: So it lets you know how much respect he has

1028
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 3: around the NBA to be selected despite the Pacers only

1029
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: having thirteen wins. I know that might have been a

1030
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: big sticky point if you look at like All Star

1031
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 3: snubs and people who felt like they should have made

1032
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 3: it over a Pascal. I think there's an argument to

1033
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 3: be made there, but ultimately they felt like this is

1034
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: the guy who, to your point, Jeff shows up every night,

1035
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 3: plays the game the right way, and to Pascal's credit,

1036
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 3: he really doesn't complain when you watch him play basketball.

1037
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 3: There isn't a whole lot of the dare I say,

1038
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 3: new NBA where you're kind of trying to trick the

1039
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: refs into a foul call or you miss a shot

1040
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: and you're on on your back and you're complaining about it. Like,

1041
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 3: he does a lot of stuff that you will probably

1042
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 3: teach your kids how to do or how to play

1043
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 3: the game or approach the game, like when it comes

1044
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: from to an attitude standpoint, a care factor of those things.

1045
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: So it wasn't just Pascal Siakam is getting a vote

1046
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: from his head coach. It's Pascal Siakams getting votes from

1047
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: other head coaches. As well.

1048
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's really well said. I think he's

1049
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 4: been you know, based off what Rick Carlisle shares with

1050
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 4: us in our weekly combos, I think he's done a

1051
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 4: lot for this iteration of the pacers. I think this

1052
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 4: would be an easy opportunity for a player of Siakam's ilk,

1053
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 4: if you will, to kind of check out, to kind

1054
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 4: of sit there and say, hey, I don't I didn't

1055
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 4: sign up for this, and honestly, my body could use

1056
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 4: a little rest. And he's playing a ton of minutes

1057
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 4: on a team that's not been good, and yet he

1058
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 4: is delivered in the end of game situations. That's probably

1059
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 4: the only other thing I'll add, James, I thought you

1060
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 4: laid it out very very well. But there's been some

1061
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 4: big time clutch moments from him this season, and that

1062
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 4: was question we had entering the year. You know, Haliburton

1063
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 4: did so much for you at the end of games

1064
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 4: last season, it was now gonna be okay, you kind

1065
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 4: of got this Nemhard Siakam two man game.

1066
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 5: Maybe.

1067
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 4: Of course, Nemhard has been in and out of the lineup,

1068
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 4: so uh yeah, very very deserving and I think at

1069
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 4: times you can get very standings e and breaking tiebreakers

1070
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 4: some of these All Stars. By the way, I have

1071
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 4: no idea what the All Star format is. Is a

1072
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 4: USA World That's that what it is?

1073
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's like a three You got voted on.

1074
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 4: Your East West? Is that how it?

1075
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's like two USA teams. Isn't that they're doing

1076
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 5: like a round robin this year?

1077
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 3: I believe. So I want to say it's two USA

1078
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 3: teams and one World team, and yeah, it's a marks point.

1079
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 3: It's like a three team round robin. I think all

1080
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: that is garbage, kind of like the Pro Bowl games.

1081
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 3: But nevertheless, I'll just focus on the positive of Pascal

1082
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 3: Siaka being selected because trying to understand that stuff, I mean,

1083
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, I couldn't care less about

1084
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 3: the format of it because it's just not traditional. I

1085
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: think it's doumbe If the NBA kind of did that,

1086
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 3: I know I'm gonna rant now, but I don't know

1087
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 3: why they just stopped doing the one team versus the

1088
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 3: other team for about even if you want to shorten

1089
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 3: the game forty minutes, I don't care. But the round

1090
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: robin thing, like, well, I think.

1091
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 4: In a load management era, there's no way around it

1092
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 4: like you cannot create a competitive all star format ever

1093
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 4: again in pro sports hockey is those people are different animals.

1094
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 4: I get the four Nations as exploded, but like, there's

1095
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 4: no way we're ever going to get anything in the

1096
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl. There's no way an NBA games ever gonna

1097
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 4: get serious again.

1098
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: But I will say this, the couple of years they had,

1099
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: like the elam ending.

1100
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 4: Or whatever a little did like a little some of that. Yeah,

1101
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 4: I think that's a step, but they took that away.

1102
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 3: And to your point, yeah, I don't know if anything

1103
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 3: it will ever fix it. But I'd rather watch Not

1104
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 3: that I don't want to watch any of this, but

1105
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 3: I would rather watch a bad regular basketball game than

1106
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 3: a bad round robin. That reminds me of like the

1107
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 3: eight am and nine am games at AU tournament with

1108
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 3: a bunch of nobodies.

1109
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 4: I made that All Star performance inside a gamebridge few

1110
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 4: years ago. Was I mean it was just like is

1111
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 4: literally was the worst part the little or Haliburton gonna

1112
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 4: pull up from the valley of volleyball line. Oh wait,

1113
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 4: they're not going to pass to Alibert, Like I mean,

1114
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 4: that was literally the whole story that was a thing

1115
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 4: of that there so yeah.

1116
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: Well, congratulations Pascal Siakam.

1117
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: You can watch him play tonight at the Fieldhouse against

1118
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 2: the Houston.

1119
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 3: Rock Real Basketball.

1120
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, uh no, Kevin Durant tonight.

1121
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 2: He's out with an ankle injury right there while we're

1122
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: talking in basketball and to go back to uh uh well,

1123
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 2: I actually want to switch over to football because Fernando

1124
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 2: Mendozo has been making the rounds. Last week he did

1125
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: a talk show that was a lot of fun, and

1126
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: give me the context.

1127
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: For this latest one. I think he was talking to

1128
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: Barstool Sports, was he not?

1129
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 4: Mark? So they do a thing.

1130
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 5: One of my favorite things that Barstool Sports does is

1131
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 5: Sunday Conversation the Sunday spelled like a ice cream Sunday,

1132
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 5: and it's with Caleb Presley and he interviews an athlete

1133
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 5: or celebrity for you know, about under ten minutes every

1134
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 5: single week, and this week was actually Fernando Mendoza and

1135
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 5: so he had him on, and you know, it's good

1136
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 5: to see guys like Fernando Mendozi. He's very serious and

1137
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 5: everything and you know, very like WW promo, like in

1138
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 5: his postgame press conference. So it's nice to see him

1139
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 5: kind of cut loose and everything. So this is him.

1140
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 4: They discussed ak if he has a Kurt Signetti impression

1141
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 4: in him, and this is what he had to say.

1142
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: You got the opportunity to play for coach Kurt Signetti.

1143
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1144
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: What was that like?

1145
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 4: Humbling?

1146
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1147
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 3: That is humbling.

1148
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: Why is coach Schig always do this face?

1149
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 9: I don't know if he's like a jaw thing, but

1150
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 9: I don't know just how he is.

1151
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 4: Do you have a Coach Shig impression that you like

1152
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 4: to do?

1153
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 9: I mean I don't like to do it until now

1154
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 9: because I would get benched if not.

1155
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 4: So now it's now, it's chill.

1156
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm assuming. Would you like to do one with the Fernando?

1157
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, pretty much, that's it.

1158
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, what you're doing Fernando, only in a different way.

1159
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1160
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 5: And then he was also they discussed, you know, now

1161
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 5: that Indiana is one, there's a good likelihood that if

1162
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 5: they keep winning, they're going to become kind of like

1163
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 5: the the Death Star where people are going to be like, ah,

1164
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 5: we don't like Indiana anymore or anything like that. So

1165
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 5: he was saying, you know, when Kurt Signetti eventually starts

1166
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 5: getting hated in America, will you please send a message

1167
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 5: to him and just you know, kind of like time

1168
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 5: capsule this so we can play this for him when

1169
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 5: eventually Kurt Signetti is hated in America. And this is

1170
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 5: what Fernando had to say.

1171
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 9: So, coach Sig, this is your former player, Fernando Mendoza.

1172
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 9: Remember me, Caleb said, you're hated by America. But I

1173
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 9: want to let you know that I love you. The

1174
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 9: people in the locker room love you. And you know

1175
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 9: Chipoti loves your business too, So God bless brother or coach.

1176
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: Sorry, you should probably say something about the cheating allegations

1177
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: because by that time they're definitely going to be accusing.

1178
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 9: Mischie Okay, oh man, Coach Sig, we all know that

1179
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 9: you allegations aren't true.

1180
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: You believe in you.

1181
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 2: Fernando of Mendoza. Maybe not quite the impressionist that we

1182
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 2: were hoping.

1183
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 4: It's about six and a half minutes long. It is

1184
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 4: very very well done.

1185
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: It's funny. He's been doing well.

1186
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 3: And see I would just troll. I would just tell

1187
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 3: everybody to cheat better. That's how you do it. You

1188
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 3: don't deny it, you just accept it. Yeah, okay, we

1189
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 3: cheat it. We cheat better than you losers.

1190
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: Was it was it cheating though, or just taking advantage

1191
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 2: of the That's what there was, uh Mark.

1192
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 3: I also saw it cheated against Illinois, you know, and

1193
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 3: fifty point difference. It was all cheating clearly, Like what

1194
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 3: are we doing?

1195
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: All I know is you had to come to work

1196
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 2: with candy stripe pants on the next I have the Illinois.

1197
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 3: Pants on the day, baby, shout out to Keen Woggler.

1198
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

1199
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 2: Also on social media over the weekend, I saw a

1200
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: bunch of people who used to go to school with

1201
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 2: Fernando mendozer like, I'm going to tell you the truth

1202
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: about Fernando Mendoza. Saw this one girl that was in

1203
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: a law, a pre law class with him and at

1204
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: cal and she said, the professor is one of those

1205
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 2: guys that likes to ask questions that it might be

1206
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 2: kind of tough, and he likes to pick on the

1207
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 2: athletes and call them out and see what they know.

1208
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: She said.

1209
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: Fana Mendoza answered every one of his questions all the time,

1210
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 2: every time.

1211
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 4: No shock there, Yeah, Sully said to Kayla Presley, he's

1212
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 4: never been to Vegas, so here we go.

1213
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 5: Asked if that was going to be a concern. Do

1214
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 5: you have a concern that there's a lot of like

1215
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 5: conventions and everything in Las Vegas, Like I've never been

1216
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 5: to Vegas?

1217
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 4: Like would that keep you from wanting to go? And

1218
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 4: I'll go wherever. Yeah. I don't know if the humor

1219
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 4: fully came across in the audio, but it is a

1220
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 4: very fun segments as Mark sets. I encourage you may

1221
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 4: check that out. I know, one, James, what do you

1222
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 4: make vikings? GM getting fired? That was quite the NFL

1223
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 4: news item here. I think after our show ended on Friday.

1224
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 3: The timing of it was horrible in my opinion, because

1225
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 3: if you're going to fire the guy, you probably should

1226
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 3: fire him before you get into all of the draft prep.

1227
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 3: You know, right now, it was all about the All

1228
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 3: Star Bowls. I guess, if you want to call it that.

1229
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 3: We have the East West Shrine Bowl and the Senior Bowl,

1230
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 3: all these things, and he's attending these events for your franchise,

1231
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 3: and then you fire him. So it felt like, if

1232
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 3: you were going to do this, you should have done

1233
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 3: it weeks ago, as soon as the season ended. I

1234
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 3: mean we talk about it all the time. There are

1235
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 3: teams where we prepare I mean I was one of them.

1236
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: There's some version in my laptop here of the Colts

1237
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 3: that fire Chris Ballard, prepare for that moment because you

1238
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 3: know it's the possibility that could happen. But the fact

1239
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 3: that the Vikings stuck with them. I thought that they

1240
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: were gonna stick with them through the offseason because you've

1241
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 3: seen that made up your mind. But yeah, that's my

1242
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 3: only thing with it. I don't mind the decision to

1243
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,479
Speaker 3: do it, but the timing of it makes it seem

1244
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 3: like you all didn't know what you were doing from

1245
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 3: a hierarchy standpoint, So the Vikings to me right now

1246
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 3: are a mess.

1247
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 5: It also does another thing where it's like you're keeping

1248
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 5: Kevin O'Connell and now you've kind of tied yourself to

1249
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy, so now that your next GM has to

1250
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 5: be on board with both of those guys. Otherwise there's

1251
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 5: kind of like lane ducks as well, so it's kind

1252
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 5: of like, what are we doing here?

1253
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I it reminded me of the Ryan Grigson firing

1254
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 4: a lot. The Colts fired Grigson very deep into the

1255
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 4: month of January. I think Chuck Pegano probably would have

1256
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 4: stayed for that twenty seventeen season even if they would

1257
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 4: have fired Grigson right after in the year. I think

1258
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 4: Jim Mersey had, you know, pretty strong kind of emotional

1259
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 4: attachment to Chuck there. But I am kind of curious

1260
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 4: about that. Yeah, Mark, to your point, I'm very curious

1261
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 4: what it means her quarterback, because let's play this out.

1262
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 4: If the Colts are going to use the franchise tag

1263
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 4: on Alec Pierce, that means Daniel Jones they will have

1264
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 4: to compete on some open market for him. Now, by

1265
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 4: all accounts, Daniel Jones wants to be here, and the

1266
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 4: Colts have made it very clear publicly they want him back.

1267
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 4: I have always said if there's one team that I

1268
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 4: could see enter the fray, it's Minnesota, and based off

1269
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 4: some of the reporting of what has happened here, it

1270
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 4: sounded like a very he said, she said within the

1271
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 4: coaching staff, of the coaching staff being more pro whatever,

1272
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 4: whether it would have been trying to bring Sam Darnold

1273
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 4: back or trying to go get Daniel Jones and keep

1274
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 4: him there. I guess. Remember, Daniel Jones was with Minnesota

1275
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 4: for the final two months of the previous season, So

1276
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 4: that is the one team that I'm kind of like,

1277
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 4: I understand what Mark's saying, but like, I don't know

1278
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 4: if they are married to JJ McCarthy. Like I got

1279
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 4: the impression that it was a draft pick that's kind

1280
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 4: of been a little bit forced upon some of the

1281
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 4: coaching staff, and it sounds like a very big disagreement

1282
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 4: there in regards to that, among other things. So I

1283
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 4: do think that is because remember they had all the

1284
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers drama too. Yeah, last offseason seemed like they

1285
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 4: were trying to do stuff to not necessarily commit to

1286
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy.

1287
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: So we're not the one thing they didn't do though

1288
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: at quarterback. They didn't keep Sam Donald, who's now playing

1289
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl, and the dude gets fired right

1290
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: after Sam Donald qualifies for the Super Bowl.

1291
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 4: So does that mean they will go after a Daniel Jones.

1292
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: I think they're good.

1293
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 2: I think they've signaled they're going to go after the

1294
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: best quarterback that they can find because I think they

1295
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 2: screwed up. They know they screwed up, and they feel

1296
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,479
Speaker 2: it feels to me like they don't think that JJ

1297
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 2: McCarthy is the answer.

1298
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 3: He's not.

1299
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: He's getting blamed for it.

1300
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 3: He's not. I mean, if you try to run it

1301
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 3: back with him, I don't see how you look justin

1302
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 3: Jefferson in the eyes and say there's your quarterback without

1303
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 3: trying something different and trying to get somebody different.

1304
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 2: Well, he waited over the weekend too, and he said

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00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 2: we'd have been a lot better off if Sam Donald

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00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 2: had stayed here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of crazy how things shifted so much

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00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 3: for the Vikings because you went from having potentially to

1309
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 3: pick up Sam Donald or Daniel Jones to not having

1310
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 3: either rolling on with JJ McCarthy, and it backfired tremendously

1311
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Speaker 3: to the point where your I mean, I would think

1312
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 3: you have to consider Daniel Jones coming off an Achilles

1313
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 3: tear no less as a better option than the guy

1314
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Speaker 3: you drafted what ninth overall a couple of years back.

1315
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 3: So very unique situation overall there in Minnesota, and I

1316
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 3: do think they could be in serious contention to try

1317
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 3: to get Daniel Jones to come back there.

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Speaker 5: What do you think Daniel Jones, if you gave him truth,

1319
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 5: Serim would say, if you had the Vikings on the

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00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 5: table and the Colts on the.

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Speaker 4: Table, what do you think would be this better situation

1322
00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 4: for him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

1324
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 4: I would think the Colts, just because he obviously played

1325
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 4: here and had great success. He never played in Minnesota,

1326
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 4: but I you know, I think there are some reports

1327
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 4: out there last offseason Minnesota offered more money than Indy.

1328
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 4: Now I don't I mean, if I'm Daniel Jones, you know,

1329
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Speaker 4: I don't know. Anytime you sit here and say, well,

1330
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 4: the money's not going to be the deciding factor, you

1331
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Speaker 4: just sound like an idiot. But you know, I think

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00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones has made a healthy amount of money in

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00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 4: his life that he probably should look at his NFL

1334
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 4: career and say, Okay, where did I perform the best at?

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00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 4: Oh it was Indianapolis. Yeah, even if it is going

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00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 4: to be a couple million less, I should probably go there.

1337
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's a good question. Mark.

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Speaker 2: I think the discussion does underline what we've been talking about,

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00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: and even it magnifies a little bit more. They got

1340
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: a lot of work to do this offseason if they

1341
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 2: go ahead and franchise Alec Pierce, and now they're going

1342
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: to have to do something to get a new contract

1343
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,919
Speaker 2: for Daniel Jones, and they still don't have a first

1344
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 2: round draft pick, and they still have to find an

1345
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 2: edge somewhere, and they still need to beef up their

1346
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: ibacker core, and they don't know if one of their

1347
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: secondary guys is going to retire with the concussionary.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot.

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00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 2: To figure out, and a lot going on, and a

1350
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 2: lot of redistribution of money that's going to have to

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Speaker 2: take place.

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Speaker 1: Kevin.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we are I think starting to near some

1354
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 4: answers on that you know you would assume. I guess

1355
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 4: honestly that your various ward situation is probably the one

1356
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 4: that he needs to give him some give them some

1357
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 4: sort of answer and what doll we work three weeks

1358
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 4: from tomorrow. I believe it's the NFL combine. I know

1359
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 4: it's crazy that sounds to a lot of people out there.

1360
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 4: And just to tie a bow and this whole Vikings

1361
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 4: GM story. Ironically enough, their assistant GM, Ryan Grigson. Now

1362
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 4: they announced that they have a VP of Football Ops

1363
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 4: that will run the show through the draft and then

1364
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 4: they will open up the search for a new GM

1365
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 4: after that. But we'll see if Ryan Grigson, who has

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00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 4: not had a GM job since obviously was fired here

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Speaker 4: after the twenty sixteen season, we'll see if he's a

1368
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Speaker 4: candidate at all.

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Speaker 2: There All right, everything else you need to know in

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Speaker 2: Had a Pacers back at home Tonight. They'll be at

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Speaker 2: the Fieldhouse taking on the Houston Rockets. The Rockets will

1377
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: be playing without Kevin Durant. He'll miss the game with

1378
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 2: a left ankle sprain. Big news for the Pacers over

1379
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 2: the weekend, despite not despite but getting a win Saturday

1380
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: night against the Atlanta Hawks. Pascal Siakam hasn't been named

1381
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 2: an All Star to the upcoming game that we've played

1382
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 2: on the fifteenth of February in Los Angeles at the

1383
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 2: Into It Dome, but he is averaging twenty four points,

1384
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 2: four assists, and seven rebounds a game. Kevin, We've been

1385
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 2: talking about it all morning long and all year long.

1386
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: He's one guy that in this day and age a

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00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: load management and doing this and do that.

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Speaker 1: He brings it every single night.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Is he defendable?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if it's the greatest confident in

1392
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 4: the world. But he's just a great professional. And you know, again,

1393
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 4: a lot of guys I think would maybe turn their

1394
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 4: head at the season that the Pacers are having right now,

1395
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 4: and yet he's been there, like you said, pretty much

1396
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 4: every night and is delivered so consistently amidst all the

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01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 4: injuries around him. So major had to passcal siakam well

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01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,919
Speaker 4: well deserved in that honor. And as James pointed out,

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01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 4: you know, the coaches picked the reserves, so I think

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01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 4: pretty cool to see other coaches respect him like that.

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01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 2: James, the Pacer has been playing much better lately. Obviously

1402
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: we're getting a little boring healthy. They still don't have

1403
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 2: a center, and that means Thursday, the trade deadline in

1404
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: the NBA.

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01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: Indiana is one of those teams.

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01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 2: A lot of people say watch for them to try

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01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 2: and make a move to get a five. But does

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01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 2: that mean that's the end of Benedict Matherin.

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01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 3: I think in any deal, yeah, that would make the

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01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 3: most sense, because to get a player that you want,

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01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 3: you probably have to give up a player that somebody

1412
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 3: else wants. In the most wantable player on the trade

1413
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 3: market for the Pacers would be Benedic Mather And so

1414
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 3: we'll see what the next couple of days brings. But

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01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 3: I could go either way on standing pat or making

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01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 3: a move.

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Speaker 2: College basketball. Yesterday, Purdue gets off the snide. They beat

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01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: Maryland ninety three sixty three. Fletcher Lawyer almost JMV. Like

1419
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 2: we heard yesterday, John almost almost seven to ten from

1420
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 2: three point range, twenty nine points.

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Speaker 3: Big time performance for him. They needed to get back

1422
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 3: in the win column. I know it's not a great

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01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 3: opponent day phase, but boy, it would have got really

1424
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 3: loud and la fiet had they not pulled that out.

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Speaker 2: Braydon Smith scored nineteen points in the win. Also on Saturday,

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Speaker 2: Georgetown too much for Butler seventy seven to sixty four.

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Speaker 1: That's an opportunity lost for the Bulldogs. It feels like.

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Speaker 4: Kevin, Yeah, I mean, I don't know if i'd call

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01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 4: it a great opportunity for the resume. It's just an

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01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 4: opportunity that you can't afford to now have a stain

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01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 4: on your resume like that. Georgetown. I mean, that's a

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Speaker 4: quad three home loss.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta win that.

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01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean you just need to hold serve there.

1435
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 4: So awful second half shooting the basketball. You know, they

1436
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 4: had a chance there, it was down to five or

1437
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 4: six I think of the under eight time out and

1438
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 4: just awful the rest of the way.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 4: We'll see about Stink Robinson in that wrist injury. It

1441
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 4: looked like he was favoring that late in the game there.

1442
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 4: So they are on the road coming up here this week,

1443
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 4: two games before they got yukon next weekendside Hinkle all.

1444
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 2: Right, Indiana got a big Quad one win this week

1445
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 2: and maybe UCLA ninety eight ninety seven. Nick Dorn twenty

1446
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 2: six points. Hoosiers are three and oh since he came

1447
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 2: back from injury. Lamar Wilkerson and Reed Bailey both scored

1448
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 2: twenty four points, and Darren Devez talking about the state

1449
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Speaker 2: of the Hoosiers right now.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean it's broad winds are incredibly hard, and

1451
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 11: especially when you feel like you got the game kind

1452
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 11: of into control and then feel like, you know, you

1453
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 11: just got to finish it out and then have about

1454
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 11: everything you can imagine, you know, not go your way

1455
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 11: to still be able to come back in overtime and

1456
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 11: fight your way to a second overtime and then come

1457
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 11: away with a win. You know, I just say It

1458
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 11: says a lot about those guys that were out there,

1459
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 11: guys that fouled out. We had new guys coming in,

1460
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 11: guys in different goals, different positions, and that's what being

1461
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 11: ready is. And you know, and finishes with trents to sleep.

1462
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 11: You know, freshman had played a lot in this game,

1463
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 11: comes in and knocks down them free throw to win

1464
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 11: the game. But incredibly out of them, you know, they're playing,

1465
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 11: they're just playing their guts out right now. And that's

1466
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 11: why I love about them. And they you know, they're

1467
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 11: just giving us everything they got and they left it

1468
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 11: all out there, and unfortunately we never come away.

1469
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Speaker 2: With We went playing pretty well the last week or two.

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01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 2: Like I said, ever since DRN came back, they've got

1471
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Speaker 2: it going on.

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Speaker 1: That young man can light.

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01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 3: It up, definitely. I mean, if you never missed it

1474
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 3: the three again, I think the IU has a very

1475
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 3: good chance of being good at basketball all right.

1476
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Speaker 2: Coming up on Tuesday, Indiana, we'll play at USC, Butler

1477
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 2: at Providence, and Notre Dame plays at Louisville. The IU

1478
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: women got their first big ten, went over Northwestern eighty

1479
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 2: seven to seventy five.

1480
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: Always in the upper echelon of the Big ten.

1481
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 2: They just struggled a little bit this year, but they

1482
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 2: finally got that first win, so maybe that'll get them

1483
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 2: going a little bit. Major League Baseball News, you see

1484
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 2: that all kinds of signings mark as we get closer

1485
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 2: and closer in the next ten days or so to

1486
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: pitchers and catchers reporting the Reds have regained the rights

1487
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 2: to Heno Soirez.

1488
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 4: Don't look now, but here come the Red leg a.

1489
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 2: Year for fifteen million dollars. Maybe that adds a little

1490
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 2: pop to the lineup, a little protection for.

1491
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: Elie de la Cruz, Kevin Bowen. Our Reds needed it.

1492
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 4: I think the Reds wont at all next year. Let's

1493
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 4: go when what's spring training? What are you talking about here?

1494
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: Win everything?

1495
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 2: Okay, anything else you guys wanted to throw in before

1496
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 2: we head off the break.

1497
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: We got Nathan Brown coming up in just a few

1498
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: minutes here.

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Speaker 3: I did see that Paul George got suspended for twenty

1500
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 3: five games for violating the league's drug policy. But it

1501
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 3: sounds like from his statement and other reporting on the matter,

1502
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 3: that he took something for his mental health that wouldn't

1503
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 3: necessarily to help him perform better, like from a basketball

1504
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 3: standpoint or from a health recovery standpoint, So a bit

1505
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 3: of a weird suspension, a gray area there. Obviously, I

1506
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 3: hope that he can bounce back and be okay mentally

1507
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 3: with everything's going on, But a bit of a unique

1508
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 3: situation for Paul.

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01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: George certainly wish him the best.

1510
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 2: All right, Coming up in a few minutes, Nathan Brown

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01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 2: from The Indie Star stops by.

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Speaker 1: He is a master of all subjects.

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01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 2: But we'll talk to him about what happening in the

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01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 2: NFL right now, some indiecar news as well.

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Speaker 1: It's all straight ahead. Ninety three five one o seven

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Speaker 10: You're listening to a fan morning show on sports Radio

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Speaker 2: Groundhog has spoken, Mark Dychton, I saw a shadow.

1520
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 5: I don't like it. I don't love it. But it

1521
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 5: looks like what's the worst stuck with?

1522
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 2: What do you think the most entertaining interesting way? Bill

1523
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 2: Murray oft himself day after day after day.

1524
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,919
Speaker 5: And that movie was when he gingerly walks in front

1525
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 5: of the car and just raises his hand like Hi.

1526
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 4: That one.

1527
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 5: My daughter's watched that. But there's what does Groundhog day?

1528
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 5: So I try to explain it to him like we

1529
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 5: just watched the movie, and then they're still very confused,

1530
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 5: like is that real? Is that weather related? I mean,

1531
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 5: it's just it's just fun. It's a fun old timey

1532
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 5: tradition that we do for some reason.

1533
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: That's right. You've seen that movie, right, James.

1534
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, classic, right right a past this movie right there.

1535
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 2: I think my favorite is literally I mentioned the first

1536
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 2: hour win the groundhog and he are fighting for control

1537
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 2: of the wheel.

1538
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: He goes off the side of the cliff. Thank you

1539
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: very much.

1540
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 2: That's what's happening in the world today at his Groundhog Day.

1541
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 2: And it feels like a balmy twenty two degrees outside

1542
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 2: right now, James, on the way to a daytime high

1543
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 2: of thirty.

1544
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: How about that.

1545
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 3: We'll take it. We'll take it. This is the Midwest

1546
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 3: and the winter, and thirty sounds like summer.

1547
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:37,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1548
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 2: There's a lot of debate over the last week or

1549
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 2: two since that snow game in Denver about should all

1550
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 2: future football stadiums have a retractable dome. It's like what

1551
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 2: we have here in Indianapolis. Where do you fall on

1552
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 2: that kabin? Do you like a good weather game in

1553
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 2: the National Football League? Are you one of those things

1554
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 2: that should be climate controlled and just let the players

1555
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 2: do their thing.

1556
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 4: I do. I do like outdoor games. I like venues

1557
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 4: that involve a love of the elements here, So I

1558
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 4: understand why all these teams and cities are opting for

1559
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 4: the controlled nature to it. But I mean, let's not

1560
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 4: act like that. Second half the Denver game is what

1561
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 4: we get, you know, time and time again.

1562
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1563
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 4: Seattle seem to be just fine for a great game

1564
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 4: between two really really good football team. So I have

1565
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 4: zero issue with the outdoor games.

1566
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: I like it.

1567
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 2: There was a stat for a long time that every

1568
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 2: time it snowed during a national televised game in Denver,

1569
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: usually like maybe once every other year or something like that,

1570
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 2: that the ski areas would just get inundated with reservations

1571
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 2: and requests to come ski and things of that nature.

1572
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: So you got that going up.

1573
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: But I think the bigger reason you're going to see

1574
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 2: more and more domes built in almost all stadiums that

1575
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 2: are new with domes on them coming up if NFL

1576
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 2: teams can afford that, is the fact that you can

1577
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: hold so many other events in those things all year round. Kevin,

1578
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 2: it really becomes down to an economic thing. I think,

1579
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 2: oh for sure.

1580
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, obviously we got a Final four here,

1581
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 4: and what do we have three nights of Taylor Swift

1582
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 4: last year? And yeah all that. James Tex to you

1583
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 4: in the text, you want All Star home court on

1584
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 4: the line for the NBA. You think that'll do something?

1585
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 3: It would. It'll never happen, but I would like to

1586
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 3: see it.

1587
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 5: Like a like home court is in like and the finals. Yeah,

1588
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 5: like the MLB did with the series.

1589
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 3: Because we were talking about how to incentivize the All

1590
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 3: Star Game. I don't think money's going to do it,

1591
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 3: because these guys get paid a ton of money. Mean,

1592
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 3: if you're looking at All Stars, especially if you're a

1593
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 3: guy not on your first contract anymore, you're getting probably

1594
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 3: fifty million dollars a year. So an extra five hundred

1595
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 3: k is not going to really change how you approached

1596
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 3: the game. As crazy as that sounds, INA's.

1597
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 4: Age, but you really think home court will?

1598
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 3: I think it really would. Yes, I'm dead serious about that.

1599
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think guys will care at all that

1600
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 4: much more for home court refreshment. Yeah, I mean, if

1601
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 4: you're Pascal Siakham on a twelve win pacer team and

1602
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 4: Pascal Siakam's gonna play hard, I think, no matter what,

1603
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 4: or at least harder than most. But why would you

1604
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 4: care about that?

1605
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 3: That's true? But I mean, if you're a team that

1606
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 3: is in somewhat of title contention, wouldn't you care, Like

1607
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 3: if you're the OKC thunder if I'm SGA, I mean,

1608
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 3: and to be not the bugus to Pascal, But I

1609
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 3: don't really care what any anybody who's on the thirteen

1610
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 3: win team has to do in All Star Game. Brother,

1611
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 3: you won't be playing anyways when it comes down to it,

1612
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 3: because we're deciding who. I think in the final moment

1613
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 3: of the game, who's going to be trying to get

1614
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 3: that Home Court advtage and then in the finals, So

1615
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 3: I would imagine it's all the starters anyways.

1616
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 5: But if you get like winner, you know, you donate

1617
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 5: to each player's favorite charity, but the winner gets a

1618
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 5: million dollars to each of their dreams.

1619
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 3: They're not doing that.

1620
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 4: I think it's a lost cause. Frankly, I think there's

1621
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 4: no way to save it, no way, Like I don't

1622
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,799
Speaker 4: think Home Court's going to do anything. I don't think

1623
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 4: I think the NBA World's a decent idea obviously, the

1624
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 4: four Nations, but hockey players just wired differently, like when

1625
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 4: people compare it to hockey.

1626
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: So don't hit in those games.

1627
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 4: And like Major League Baseball, you would say, is the

1628
01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 4: least physically whatever taxing, and they went away with that,

1629
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 4: and so I I don't see there's any way to

1630
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 4: save any of these All Star games. I think we

1631
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 4: live in an air of load management, and that's just

1632
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 4: the reality that we're gonna have to live with. And

1633
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 4: as soon as that player, whatever tears is acl going

1634
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 4: for a loose ball late in the game with home

1635
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 4: court on the line, will be done. Done with all

1636
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 4: these All Star games?

1637
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, well remember and help me out here, Mark, Not

1638
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 2: too long ago, Major League Baseball wanted to make the

1639
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,799
Speaker 2: winner of the All Star Game get home field advantage

1640
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 2: for the World Series. And then one year, if I'm

1641
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 2: not mistaken, Mark, both sides ran out of pitchers in

1642
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 2: an extra inning game and they didn't quite know what

1643
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 2: to do, and Bud Seedier declared it to draw. I

1644
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 2: can't remember if that coincided with getting home field.

1645
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: Advantage in the All Star Game or not. Do you remember?

1646
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 4: I don't remember, but I remember the tie and I remember.

1647
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 2: Tie, but that at one point Selig was like, we're

1648
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 2: gonna make the All Star Game matter. We're gonna give

1649
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 2: a home field advantage of the World Series to the

1650
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 2: winner of the All Star Game.

1651
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that was not that long ago, right that

1652
01:10:58,960 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 4: we did that.

1653
01:10:59,479 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: No, it's one.

1654
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Bud Seel is a long time ago. No, no, Bud,

1655
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 4: We're going way back. And that's that's Rob Manfred right,

1656
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 4: A little bit more of the what we've actually had.

1657
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: I forget Rob Manfred exists. Sometimes.

1658
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 4: I just don't think there's any saving these All Star

1659
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 4: games period, like across any sport, especially doom and gloom,

1660
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 4: especially football, basketball, and I guess a little bit of

1661
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 4: baseball here.

1662
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 2: The other thing about all Star games back in the

1663
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,759
Speaker 2: day too, before every single team was on national television

1664
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 2: all the time and you could watch your favorite team

1665
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: by paying even an out of pock or out of

1666
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 2: market fee or whatever, there was a long time, you know,

1667
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 2: before all this happened, you know, pre two thousand, pre

1668
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five, all Star games were the one chance

1669
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 2: that people outside of market really had to look at

1670
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 2: some of the guys that were excelling throughout the rest

1671
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 2: of sports, whether it was baseball, NBA, even to a

1672
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 2: certain extent, the National Football League, it was a chance

1673
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 2: for everybody to get to see them.

1674
01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. I got a couple of hot takes about that.

1675
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 3: We can get into later in the show.

1676
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: All right.

1677
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 2: In the meantime, Nathan Brown, he's the Colts insider at

1678
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 2: the Indie Star. He also covers all kinds of things,

1679
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 2: especially Indy car He joins us now on the Payless

1680
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 2: Liquors hotline. Happy warm Monday to you, Nathan. It feels

1681
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 2: ball me out there, does it not.

1682
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, compared to the fact that it was what twenty

1683
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 8: or three degrees colder than this a couple of days ago,

1684
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 8: I will certainly take this.

1685
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 4: I'll tell you that, Nathan appreciate the time. On a

1686
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 4: busy Monday morning and Nathan alongside Joel a ericson with

1687
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 4: your Colts coverage there for the Indianapolis Star. Nathan, what

1688
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 4: do you think defensively, when it's all said and done,

1689
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 4: we've set the number like three and a half new

1690
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 4: defensive starters. If I threw that out for you this

1691
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 4: all season for the Colts, three and a half new

1692
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 4: defensive starters, would you say under over on that that's.

1693
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 8: A good number, you know, just thinking through what they need,

1694
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 8: you know, they'd probably need at least one new starter

1695
01:12:56,240 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 8: on the defensive line. I think you'd probably say from

1696
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 8: listening to Chris Ballard's end of season presser with US,

1697
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 8: I would expect at least one, if not two starters

1698
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 8: on you know, a linebacker. You know, the travous Ward

1699
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 8: is uncertain on if he's going to return the season

1700
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 8: or not. So you know, when you go through all

1701
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 8: of that and you have some free agency uncertainty, I'll

1702
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 8: take the maybe.

1703
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 4: The slight over.

1704
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 8: I think four sounds maybe about right, but it you know,

1705
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 8: wouldn't be a complete surprise if he were even maybe

1706
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 8: one higher than that.

1707
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 3: Nathan. When I look at the Colts, it all comes

1708
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 3: down to the quarterback, and it comes down to Daniel Jones.

1709
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 3: And I was reading through your piece this is probably

1710
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 3: a couple weeks ago actually about the conference championship teams

1711
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 3: and what the Colts can learn from them, and the

1712
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 3: quarterback question is one that is very unique to me.

1713
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,759
Speaker 3: And as you laid it on your piece, they really

1714
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 3: got Daniel on a cheap deal last year, fourteen million dollars.

1715
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 3: How do you see that playing out now that he's

1716
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 3: due for another contract, but he's also coming off an injury,

1717
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 3: but you also mortgage the future because you had him,

1718
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 3: So it's kind of unique situation.

1719
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 8: It's it's so hard to think about how they could

1720
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 8: think about structuring this deal. You know, we talked about

1721
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 8: you know, even before the Achilles injury. It was a

1722
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 8: lot easier, I think, to project. You could look at

1723
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 8: contracts from guys like Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold in

1724
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 8: the recent past, guys that were looking to revitalize their

1725
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 8: careers and had shown signs that they had done so,

1726
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 8: and so they got you know, those three year deals

1727
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:39,560
Speaker 8: right around one hundred million dollars in total. And I

1728
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 8: think that was probably the benchline for Daniel Jones right

1729
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 8: before he went and toward his achilles in Week fourteen

1730
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 8: in Jacksonville. So it's it's hard to think about what

1731
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 8: that deal would be now. I would have to think

1732
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 8: it's very team friendly, just because of the uncertainties coming

1733
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 8: off and achilles. I know Daniel and certainly know that

1734
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 8: the team is really confident that he will come back

1735
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 8: from this without any issues, and even I think will

1736
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 8: come back at least according to their projected timelines in

1737
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 8: time for training camp, but there are still uncertainties about

1738
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 8: a major injury. Injury like that, I would think, you know,

1739
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 8: I know both sides want to get a deal together,

1740
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 8: so you would think that they wouldn't have to go

1741
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 8: the franchise tag route. That's always an option, but that

1742
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 8: gets that one year deal up around forty five million

1743
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 8: dollars or so, which is then really hard to continue

1744
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 8: building a strong team around Daniel if you're having to

1745
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 8: pay money for a quarterback like him who is above

1746
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 8: you know, it's above average certainly, and really fairly strong

1747
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 8: and lots of metrics, but before he got hurt, but

1748
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 8: still not one of your top echelon quarterbacks. I think

1749
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 8: if they could get something in a longer term deal,

1750
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 8: maybe right around that thirty million dollars a year range.

1751
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 8: I don't know what, you know, what interests you have

1752
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 8: to balance on both of wanting to get some insurance

1753
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,600
Speaker 8: from Daniel and wanting to get maybe some of the

1754
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 8: same in a different note for the Colts, but I

1755
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 8: certainly think that they could work something out. But I

1756
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 8: can I feel fairly confident, even with the injury, that

1757
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 8: it's going to be a lot more than fourteen million

1758
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 8: dollars for their starting quarterback this year.

1759
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 2: To that in with no first round draft pick, and

1760
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 2: they've got some monetary issues to address.

1761
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: How do they go about all this?

1762
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you know, we started talking about it,

1763
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 8: and Michael Pittman junior frankly was upfront and mentioned it

1764
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 8: himself in the locker room minutes after the Colts' last.

1765
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 4: Game of the year in Houston.

1766
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 8: They are going to be some tough decisions to make

1767
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 8: with some guys who they could cut, who aren't necessarily

1768
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 8: ones that we're thinking about, who are in, you know,

1769
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 8: who have played their last game of their contract, Guys

1770
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 8: like Michael Pittman junior, Guys like Zaire Franklin, who could

1771
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 8: be cut and save the Colts a lot of money

1772
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 8: up against the cap. I think that that number for

1773
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 8: Michael Pittman juniors somewhere right around twenty four million dollars.

1774
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 8: They don't have it right in front of me, but

1775
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 8: that sounds about right. So are there are deals like

1776
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,839
Speaker 8: that where you can start cutting some guys that would

1777
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 8: be freed up at the end of twenty twenty six

1778
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 8: completely who you don't have a whole lot of guaranteed

1779
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 8: money owed to where you could make some room, because

1780
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 8: you're going to have to do that to get some

1781
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 8: more of that money for Daniel Jones to hold on

1782
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 8: to Alex Pierce. If you're going to go out and

1783
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 8: make a splash for someone at defensive end, those moves

1784
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 8: are not going to be cheap, and so they're going

1785
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 8: to have to part ways.

1786
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:43,799
Speaker 4: I think with a veteran or two.

1787
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 8: Who has been on this team for quite some time,

1788
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 8: who frankly, can just save this team some money and

1789
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 8: who's production maybe isn't quite worth the amount of money

1790
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 8: that they would be scheduled to be paying them.

1791
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty six, get Nathan Brown on the colts

1792
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 4: beat for the Adapolis Star alongside Joela Ericson. He's with

1793
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 4: a here on the Payloffs Lickers hotline. Nathan, it was

1794
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 4: a story that broke kind of when we signed off

1795
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 4: on Friday, and I know you had a few tweets

1796
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 4: about it. We're getting into your past history. You did

1797
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 4: such a great job cover an IndyCar for several years.

1798
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 4: The announcement of the Freedom two fifty coming up this

1799
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 4: year in Washington, d c.

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01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: And X.

1801
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 4: The executive order signed by President Trump with that obviously

1802
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 4: we've seen Fox have their imprint all over IndyCar here

1803
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 4: in whatever it's been now a year plus. What did

1804
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 4: you make of that it'll be an eighteenth race here

1805
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 4: for IndyCar coming up this season. Uh, and just everything

1806
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 4: around that that announcement.

1807
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 8: I think the first thing that came to mind initially

1808
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 8: for me was just how resoundingly IndyCar officials told us

1809
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,839
Speaker 8: after the season was over with, after the the idea

1810
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 8: or the possibility of a race in DC started bubbling,

1811
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 8: you know, in the you know, talk around the paddock.

1812
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 8: I would say somewhere in late August of last year,

1813
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 8: right around the last one or two races of the season,

1814
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 8: and by the time the schedule came out in mid September,

1815
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 8: we finally got a chance to ask Indy Car federalis

1816
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 8: I think Mark Miles was the person who took the

1817
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 8: question in a zoom that some of us had with

1818
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 8: them once the schedule came out, and he said that

1819
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 8: a race in DC for twenty twenty six was just

1820
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 8: never really a viable option. And that's I mean, frankly

1821
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 8: felt realistic when you think about the timelines that you know, NASCAR,

1822
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 8: IndyCar officials are typically working under for a brand new

1823
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 8: street race. Those things are you know, with all the

1824
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 8: permits you have to come up with, and you know,

1825
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 8: the planning for the track and massaging the surface to

1826
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 8: have it raceable with these cars, all the things you

1827
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 8: have to put together. It's just really difficult to announce

1828
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 8: something like that less than twelve months before you view racing.

1829
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 8: So even Beck in September when the schedule came out,

1830
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 8: it was not surprising that that did not end up

1831
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 8: on the twenty twenty sixth calendar. The fact that they

1832
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 8: are pursuing this now, and granted I know that a

1833
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 8: lot of work went into that initial idea when this

1834
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 8: was you know, when this idea first came up, I

1835
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 8: think Penske Corp. President Bud Banker said and that press

1836
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 8: conference with President Trump on Friday, that he had had

1837
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 8: something along the lines of eighty meetings on the Hill

1838
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 8: with members of Congress or other folks in the federal

1839
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 8: government about trying to put this together. Whether those were

1840
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 8: in September or closer to now, it's not entirely clear,

1841
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 8: but this is this is not an idea that they

1842
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,600
Speaker 8: are just coming up with now in late January or

1843
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 8: early February.

1844
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 4: But is something that is.

1845
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 8: Really just actually starting to take hold. I have to

1846
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 8: think that there was a time maybe where this wasn't

1847
01:20:58,040 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 8: there were a ton of work wasn't getting put to

1848
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 8: the because it seemed from that press conference that the

1849
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 8: President and his administration got winned that this was something

1850
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 8: that folks were interested in and did his best to green.

1851
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 4: Light it really quickly.

1852
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 3: So I think the biggest worry.

1853
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 8: Is just that they can pull something like this to

1854
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:22,600
Speaker 8: this magnitude that is a free event for fans. You know,

1855
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 8: how they're going to do security, how they are going

1856
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 8: to you know, make this, you know, to make the

1857
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 8: track and the area around it as safe as possible.

1858
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,679
Speaker 8: It's just it's hard to imagine being able to pull

1859
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 8: all of this off well in the six or seven

1860
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 8: months time that we have. When you also think about

1861
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 8: everything that Penske Entertainment has to handle. I think they

1862
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 8: handle promoting in some level, either directly or indirectly, eight

1863
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 8: or nine races of the seventeen now eighteen on the schedule,

1864
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 8: and this will be an additional one on their plates.

1865
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 8: So it's you know, if if they pulled this off,

1866
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 8: it will be an absolute incredible feat but it's just

1867
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 8: hard to imagine something like this coming together successfully because

1868
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 8: most street races that you have, even with twelve months

1869
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 8: or eighteen months lead time, there are always issues when

1870
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 8: you start things off in year one, and those are

1871
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 8: things that you kind of know going in and you

1872
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 8: can hope to correct them in a year two so

1873
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 8: you can get a new contract by the end of

1874
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 8: year three.

1875
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 1: Nathan, thanks for the time this morning. Appreciate that.

1876
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 2: Have fun this month getting back to the combine and

1877
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 2: doing your NFL thing with all of us, and we'll

1878
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 2: see you out there.

1879
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 8: Sounds good, great, Thanks guys.

1880
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 2: Thanks Nathan Brown, Colts Insider, indie star joining us on

1881
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 2: the Payless Slickers hotline. I don't know if you guys

1882
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 2: saw this incredible items up for auction and discovering stuff

1883
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 2: with the Jim Ursay estate. We'll talk about that next

1884
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 2: as we continue. Ninety three five and one to seven

1885
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 2: five to Fan.

1886
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 10: You were listening to a fan morning show on sports

1887
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 10: Radio ninety three to five and one oh seven five

1888
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 10: The Fan.

1889
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm waking up again every fifteen minutes,

1890
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 2: Mark all day, every day.

1891
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 4: I know what you're talking about. I think that's just

1892
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 4: you man.

1893
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 1: Uh, six more weeks of winter? Is that what we

1894
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 1: heard this morning?

1895
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 4: Supposedly? Man, how your weather forecasts from rat Hey.

1896
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 2: I had fun going through the Indie Star this morning

1897
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 2: and I was looking at Dana Huntsinger Bunbo's piece on

1898
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 2: the Jim Ers collection. We all know that he's had

1899
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 2: these amazing guitars from Kurt Cobain, Eric Clapton, the Beatles,

1900
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 2: Janis Joplin, Prince, you name it. But a couple of

1901
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 2: really cool sport things I found in there. The saddle,

1902
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 2: the race saddle for Secretariat when he won the triple crown.

1903
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 2: Jim Irsay had that in his collection. A bat from

1904
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty three Jackie Robinson is in that collection right there.

1905
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 1: That there's some cool stuff. If I had the money,

1906
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: I'd be in on the Secretariat saddle, James. I think

1907
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 1: that's just cool. That's history right there.

1908
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he always had a lot of cool stuff.

1909
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 3: I believe he had Muhammad Ali's glove for one of

1910
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 3: his famous fights as well. So yeah, if I had

1911
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 3: the money, that probably is the lead into every phrase

1912
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 3: of my life.

1913
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,480
Speaker 4: Are you putting that on your Shwin bike? The Secretariat

1914
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 4: saddle there, town, I'm just imagining get behind glass. He

1915
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 4: walks into door.

1916
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 5: Christine I bought, was like, what the hell are you doing?

1917
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 5: How much did that cost?

1918
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm working I'm working her over for a new

1919
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 1: bike right now.

1920
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 3: Nice sale.

1921
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 1: Gotta love that.

1922
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 4: Is there anything not on sale? So saddles just laying

1923
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 4: around got on sale?

1924
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 2: Anything like whether those you know some of the sports memorabilia.

1925
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 2: There's Rocky scripts, there's Rocky some of the shoes they

1926
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 2: wore during Rocky, all kinds of stuff like that. He

1927
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 2: very e collective. But have you ever seen anything in

1928
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 2: that collection that interests you if you had the money?

1929
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, when I when I went into a it is

1930
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 4: off as a couple times, I think the honestly, the

1931
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:07,480
Speaker 4: stuff on display there was mostly in the music realm,

1932
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 4: the kiro act stuff like That's that was mostly on

1933
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:14,520
Speaker 4: display there. So I have not seen the amount of sports.

1934
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 4: I don't know if there's anything nineteen eighty mirakon on

1935
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 4: Ice related. But you guys watched the Netflix documentary on that.

1936
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:23,560
Speaker 1: I have not yet seen it.

1937
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,600
Speaker 4: I've heard raving reviews on it. I mean, Miracle is

1938
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 4: a movie I thought was outstanding, So I assume this

1939
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 4: gets a little bit more into maybe the political atmosphere

1940
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 4: that was obviously so alive back in nineteen eighty. But

1941
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 4: I thought about dialing that up this week with the

1942
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 4: Winter Olympics starting coming up, opening ceremonies on Friday.

1943
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 1: That's hard to believe it's here already.

1944
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:47,520
Speaker 2: Also, the other thing I found fascinating the volleyball Wilson

1945
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 2: from the Tom Hanks movie He's Got that, Remember Castaway,

1946
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 2: when he was just talking to the volleyway pain of

1947
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 2: the volleyball up and was talking to him all the time.

1948
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 3: The estimated value says here an indie star, sixty to

1949
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Speaker 3: eighty thousand dollars.

1950
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Speaker 2: It's not bad for a unbelievable Let's be nice, right, Hey, Look,

1951
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 2: if you're a billionaire a few times over, that's what

1952
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 2: you do.

1953
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: You have fun?

1954
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Speaker 2: Right, Isn't that what we'd all think we would do

1955
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Speaker 2: if we had money. We'd want to I personally want

1956
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Speaker 2: to contribute as much to charity as I could, which

1957
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 2: he always did, but just have fun with it too.

1958
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Speaker 3: Right, Well, I always said that, Jim irsay did Rich right?

1959
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 3: You know the man certainly enjoyed his money.

1960
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Speaker 1: Well that's good stuff, all right.

1961
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Speaker 2: Coming up at a minute, we will turn our attention

1962
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Speaker 2: to the Indiana Pacers.

1963
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Speaker 1: Alex Golden stops by.

1964
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Speaker 2: I haven't spoken to him for a few weeks.

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Speaker 10: You were listening to the Fan morning show on Sports

1966
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Speaker 10: Radio ninety three, the fan.

1967
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Speaker 1: Mark. I'm just curious, is it seven twenty five?

1968
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Speaker 2: All day long today?

1969
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 4: I'm just keeping with the theme.

1970
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Speaker 2: Do we get a different one like at the very

1971
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 2: end of the show. Do we move on or we

1972
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 2: just stuck in perpect to it?

1973
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 4: Yes, you got to stay tuned and find out.

1974
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Speaker 2: All right, Well tonight you can find out. The Indiana

1975
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 2: Pacers continue nice little role that they've kind of started.

1976
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 2: They beat the Atlanta Hawks on Saturday night. They're playing

1977
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 2: much better basketball these days, and now the trade deadline

1978
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 2: is upon us on Thursday. A lot of people are

1979
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 2: wondering if any of the Pacers might get moved to

1980
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 2: Benedict Matheren is the guy they'll get moved. They're looking

1981
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 2: for a center, trying to shake things up a little

1982
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 2: bit as they prepare for maybe next year. Alex Golden

1983
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 2: covers the team. He's got a great podcast there setting

1984
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Speaker 2: the pace. He's also a good friend of the program

1985
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Speaker 2: and the show and the station. He joins us now

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Speaker 2: on the pay Less Liquors Hotline. Good morning, Alex Golden.

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Speaker 2: How's your Groundhog Day?

1988
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Speaker 12: You know, it's been all right, a little cold out,

1989
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 12: but it's some warming up, so that's a good thing. Like,

1990
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 12: you know, twenty degrees out now versus what was it

1991
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 12: like one degrees yesterday morning? So that's a little bit better.

1992
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 12: But yeah, I'm ready to be a little bit warmer

1993
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Speaker 12: than we've been recently.

1994
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Speaker 1: Man, are we a lot to talk about warming up? Though?

1995
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Speaker 2: How far away are we from that thirteen game losing

1996
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 2: streak right now?

1997
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean it seems like it's in the rearview mirror.

1998
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 12: I think there're seven and five since that thirteen game

1999
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 12: losing streaks, So the Pacers are playing better basketball, but yeah,

2000
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 12: we'll have to see if that continues.

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Speaker 3: On Alex, I would love to talk about all those

2002
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 3: things related to how well they're playing, but I've been

2003
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Speaker 3: on tangathon dot com more often than not this season.

2004
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Speaker 3: How are we feeling about the draft positioning? Where do

2005
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 3: you stand when it comes to fans who are like,

2006
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 3: wait a second, we need to keep losing to the

2007
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 3: fans for like, I would like to see a win

2008
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 3: every now and then.

2009
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I think will win every now and then.

2010
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 12: It's nice, but not as many wins as they've been getting.

2011
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 12: I feel like, let's not lose sight of what's going on.

2012
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 12: And I think if there's any hope of what the

2013
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 12: Pacers are thinking long term, it's that Kevin Pritchard was

2014
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 12: in the building for the Kansas versus BYU game this

2015
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 12: weekend and I sttle reminder of, Hey, I think they

2016
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 12: have an idea of what you really important here. But the

2017
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 12: draft lottery odds are all over the place, and it

2018
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 12: feels like the team with the worst record consistently falls

2019
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Speaker 12: out of number one. So maybe they're thinking, hey, let's

2020
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 12: be you know, second or third worst team in the league,

2021
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 12: but we don't want to get out of that fourteen percent.

2022
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 12: But maybe being number one oddwise is not the best

2023
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 12: place to be. So I don't know. I just I

2024
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 12: think that the Pacers are always going to be an

2025
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 12: organization that tries to go about it the right way,

2026
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,679
Speaker 12: the ethical way of not tanking to lose games until

2027
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 12: it's like you're eliminated from the playoffs. But I just

2028
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 12: I think that, you know, Pascal Fiaka, I'm racking up

2029
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 12: thirty five, thirty six minutes to night. That's got to

2030
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 12: come down at some point.

2031
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Speaker 3: Well, yes, I feel like now that he's earned his

2032
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,560
Speaker 3: All Star Game appearance, we got to reevaluate some of

2033
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 3: those minutes. But I will go back to the drafts.

2034
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 3: One more question on that, and that is in all

2035
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 3: serious as Alex, who's number one of your big board

2036
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 3: right now today? Because we were debating this earlier. I

2037
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 3: think Darren Peterson from Kansas is the best player in

2038
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 3: the country, and he showed it for at least for

2039
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 3: one half against BYU and aj Debanza. But then also

2040
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 3: the leg stuff I'm very you know, iffy about. Okay,

2041
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 3: can you hold up? Is this something we should be

2042
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 3: worried about for his future? So all of that factor, Dan,

2043
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 3: I'm not saying you have to have a definitive answer.

2044
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 3: Obviously it could change from from here to the draft.

2045
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 3: But right now today, who are you rolling with at

2046
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Speaker 3: number one?

2047
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a great question, and I think all season long,

2048
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:29,679
Speaker 12: I've been convincing myself that Agent Avansa is the perfect

2049
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 12: fit for the Pacers. He's six foot nine. You can't

2050
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 12: find those kind of players. They don't grow on trees,

2051
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 12: especially with his level of play like he's the number

2052
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 12: one rank. I think you know RSci in terms of

2053
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 12: you know, all the polls out there, but when you

2054
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 12: watch that game, right, you could just tell, like Peterson

2055
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 12: he's a notch above the Banza in terms of just

2056
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 12: what I think talent wise. The injuries are a huge

2057
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 12: question mark. It does seem like maybe they're doing some

2058
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 12: you know, load management type things to just make sure

2059
01:30:58,439 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 12: he stays.

2060
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Speaker 1: Ready for the draft.

2061
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Speaker 12: And that's, you know, not the worst thing to do,

2062
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 12: because college basketball and college sports in general has become

2063
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 12: more of a business than anything. But I think that

2064
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 12: if you're looking at the Pacers that you can't go

2065
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:10,799
Speaker 12: wrong with either of them. The Bandster fits in perfectly

2066
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 12: with the size and the links. But it's hard not

2067
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 12: to tell yourself that Peterson should be the first overall

2068
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 12: pick if you get the first pick, because I think

2069
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 12: he would fit in seamlessly with this system. But you're right, James,

2070
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 12: I mean, if he does have injury, you know, history

2071
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 12: or concerns with the leg injuries, and you already got

2072
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 12: Tyres Halbert, who's dealt with you know, hamstrings and cap

2073
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 12: titaness and achilles and all that. That's a little bit

2074
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 12: worriessome for your long term future if you're the Pacers again.

2075
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 4: And that's the voice of Alex Golden setting the pace.

2076
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 4: Great great listen for Pacer fans out there, and Alex

2077
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 4: joins us here on the Payless Slickers hot line. All right,

2078
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 4: trade deadline Thursday afternoon, Alex, let's start here before we

2079
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 4: begin discussing a trade. Should the Pacers want to re

2080
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 4: sign Benedict Matheren.

2081
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's a good question. I think that he is

2082
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 12: a valuable player for them in terms of being able

2083
01:31:59,960 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 12: to put the ball in the basket. There's no denying

2084
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 12: that he can do that.

2085
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 1: He can get to the.

2086
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 12: Free throw line as well when he's playing the best,

2087
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:07,639
Speaker 12: you know, version of his basketball game. But I think

2088
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 12: they should want to sign him. My biggest concern is

2089
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 12: does he want to be here if he is not

2090
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 12: a starter, And I think that's where this could get really,

2091
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 12: you know, difficult in terms of those conversations. And I

2092
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 12: don't know how you guys are feeling about this, But

2093
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 12: since his return from injury, I've been a little bit

2094
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 12: surprised they have not gone back to him. And the

2095
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,639
Speaker 12: starting lineup still rocking with Walker and Furfey and bringing

2096
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:29,679
Speaker 12: him off the bench even though he is still playing

2097
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 12: close to the starter level minutes. I just find it

2098
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:34,919
Speaker 12: a little bit interesting that they haven't reinserted him, especially

2099
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 12: if they were going to be planning to keep him

2100
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:38,759
Speaker 12: past the trade deadline. I think that they would probably

2101
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 12: already have reinserted him. That's that's just my two cents though.

2102
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 4: Do you see any way they could retain Matherin, retain

2103
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 4: their first round pick, and still find a center of

2104
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 4: the future before next season begins.

2105
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 12: It is possible. It'd be very hard, and it depends

2106
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:58,559
Speaker 12: on how high of a level of a center you need,

2107
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:01,639
Speaker 12: right because I think you could find assets with whether

2108
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 12: it's jars Falker, who will be you know on the

2109
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 12: fourth his final you know you'r Fhysericky contract, you got

2110
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 12: Ben Shephard's same thing. Isaiah Jackson's contract will be there.

2111
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 12: Obie Toppins could be there potentially too, if you if

2112
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 12: you value mather Hern at twenty three, twenty four years old,

2113
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 12: plus going out there and getting this draft pick. But

2114
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 12: I just I think at the end of the day,

2115
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 12: it's just the money situation is where it's going to

2116
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:24,639
Speaker 12: be difficult. And if Mathurins demanding close to twenty twenty

2117
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 12: five million dollars. How many guys can you play at

2118
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 12: pay at that level? And is he going to be

2119
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:31,679
Speaker 12: okay with his playing time. I think all that plays

2120
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 12: a huge factor for BKB and it's it's doable, But

2121
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 12: I don't think it's likely.

2122
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 2: All this talk about the future and trades and all

2123
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,440
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff and potential lottery.

2124
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,679
Speaker 1: How do the Pacers play the second half of this season?

2125
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 1: How they play this card?

2126
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I think it's all about development. I

2127
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 12: mean trying different lineups. I mean seeing what Furfey and

2128
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 12: Walker can do with a bigger role instead of having

2129
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 12: Siakam kind of carry them. See what Cam Jones brings

2130
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:00,799
Speaker 12: you because he's got a partial guarantee on his contract

2131
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 12: next year. Give Quentin Jackson and Ethan Thompson some more

2132
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 12: looks at.

2133
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 3: The two way spot.

2134
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 12: See if you want, maybe convert Quinton Jackson to a

2135
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 12: standard contract because his two way runs up at the

2136
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 12: end of the season. I think, you know, continuing to

2137
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 12: develop your bigs with Jay Huff and seeing what kind

2138
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 12: of chemistry he can develop. Of course, you have Obi

2139
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 12: top and who could come back at some point.

2140
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 4: In February.

2141
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 12: I think it'd be good to get him some reps

2142
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:22,920
Speaker 12: just to kind of shake some of the rest off.

2143
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 12: So there's definitely a lot of things they can do

2144
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 12: to do it. But I think playing them Hardney Smith,

2145
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:31,759
Speaker 12: Siakam and all those guys and McConnell thirty plus minutes

2146
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 12: it's not smart, and I think maybe lowering their minutes

2147
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 12: or maybe even having them sit some games would be

2148
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 12: huge for just getting other guys some opportunities that maybe

2149
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 12: they wouldn't have in a normal season.

2150
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:44,679
Speaker 1: Always good to talk to Alex Golden. Thanks so much

2151
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 1: for joining us.

2152
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 2: We'll see at the field House again soon and us

2153
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 2: keep us up to day and what might be happening Thursday.

2154
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 1: Man, we'll be listening to the podcast all right.

2155
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 12: It sounds good.

2156
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:54,759
Speaker 4: Thanks guys.

2157
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: There you go setting the pace.

2158
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 2: You can find it just about anywhere you can get podcasts,

2159
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 2: so I always like listening to a few, and to

2160
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 2: that after games, coming in the other way.

2161
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 1: In the in the to work in the morning. It's

2162
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:04,679
Speaker 1: good stuff.

2163
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 3: Shout out to Alice Golden self made man right there

2164
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 3: with his podcast.

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Speaker 2: I know you talk about building something up over the

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Speaker 2: last several years.

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Speaker 1: That's a guy that's built something up right there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they've had some awesome, awesome guests as well,

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Speaker 4: So I've really enjoyed some of the combos that they've

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Speaker 4: had on there. And basically I don't know many papers

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Speaker 4: fans that are not checking that out. Locked on Pacers

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01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 4: with Tony East also a great pot as well. You know,

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Speaker 4: I asked him the Mathering question because I do think

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Speaker 4: that's probably the first domino, Like, I don't know, as

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Speaker 4: a franchise, if you can afford back to back off

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01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,639
Speaker 4: seasons where you let a notable player walk for nothing,

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Speaker 4: you let Miles turn To walk for nothing. You can't

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01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 4: let Miles or you can't let Ben mcmatheren walk for nothing.

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Speaker 4: Right now, I'm probably more team keep Mathering. I guess

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01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 4: I should start there. But if I'm not, if you're

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01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 4: not in that camp, then you have to move them

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Speaker 4: by Thursday, right. I mean, I guess you could sign

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01:35:57,320 --> 01:35:58,719
Speaker 4: and trade them a little bit in the off season,

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Speaker 4: but boy, you're gonna take that risk.

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Speaker 3: That's why I'm glad I'm at a GM, because boy,

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01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 3: that's a difficult decision to make because you can't see

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Speaker 3: the future and you want to be able to say, well,

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01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,560
Speaker 3: we'll have this pick a few months from now and

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Speaker 3: know exactly what we're gonna do with it, but you

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Speaker 3: just don't know. But to your point, Kevin, yeah, if

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Speaker 3: you truly feel like, okay, wherever we end up in

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Speaker 3: the draft lottery, let's say it's a top five pick,

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Speaker 3: if we're okay with that, and using that pick to

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Speaker 3: point our frinch has in a different direction that perhaps

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Speaker 3: doesn't involve ben a Diig Mathern or he's not a

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Speaker 3: priority anymore than yeah, you got to move them and

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Speaker 3: get something for it, because not like that, that not

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Speaker 3: getting something in return would really set you back, I

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Speaker 3: think even more.

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Speaker 4: And we're not there yet. But if this is now

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Speaker 4: the Pacers team, we're about to see moving forward like

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Speaker 4: didn't I mean, they just finished January I think with

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01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 4: a better than five hundred record, or certainly very close

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Speaker 4: to it. If this is now the Pacers team, we're

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01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 4: about to see again the NBA Draft lotteries and Mother's

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01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 4: Day nights. You can't predict the future. To James's point,

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01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 4: but if you have the tenth pick versus the second pick,

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01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:12,560
Speaker 4: would that influence what you do on Thursday?

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Speaker 3: You don't know that, but if you projected like that.

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Speaker 4: But like if you say, all right, they have the

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01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:22,719
Speaker 4: tenth pick and they're draft in whoever. You know, I'm

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01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 4: not going to pretend to know NBA. They're drafting the

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01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 4: kid from Louisville mckel brown, you know, something like that

2214
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 4: instead of getting one of these and we say it

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01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:36,120
Speaker 4: in quotes, can't miss guys. Then does that influence your pick?

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01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 4: Because let's be honest. You know, if you look at

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Speaker 4: the top ten picks so far, you know Matherin Walker,

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01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 4: you know, Matherin has been a better player than Walker,

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01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:46,640
Speaker 4: but like you know, that's not necessarily a cornerstone, unquestioned

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Speaker 4: piece to your franchise where you think obviously Aja Bantso

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01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 4: or Daran Peterson would fit more of that for sure

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01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 4: level of players. So yeah, I think there are so

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01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:01,640
Speaker 4: many conversations for this franchise to have before Thursday, And

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01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 4: I mean, whatever they do in the next seventy two

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01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:07,640
Speaker 4: hours could honestly be the difference and potentially winning a

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01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 4: title or not period, Like that much is at stake

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01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 4: here in the next seventy two hours. There'll be other

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01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 4: iterations of this offseason. Obviously, what happens with the draft

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01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 4: is big, but it could have that type of impact

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Speaker 4: on it.

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Speaker 2: I asked the question about how they play the rest

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01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 2: of the season. They've won seven of the last twelve

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01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:25,639
Speaker 2: dating back to the eighth of January. They are seven

2234
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 2: and five upcoming schedule James Houston tonight without Kevin Durant,

2235
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 2: Utah tomorrow, then at Milwaukee, at Toronto, at the Knicks

2236
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 2: at Brooklyn, and two at Washington. The way they've been playing,

2237
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 2: you could project them winning several of those basketball games

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01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:46,840
Speaker 2: for sure.

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Speaker 3: So again, this is why I'm glad I'm not Kevin

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Speaker 3: Pritchard with his sharp turtleneck that he wore out there

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Speaker 3: at Kansas when he was trying to see and we're

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01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 3: gonna get one of these players on the floor tonight.

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01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 3: So I don't know. It's a very interesting time for

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01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:05,679
Speaker 3: this Pacers franchise. But I will say this, I think

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01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 3: Kevin Pritchard and Rick Carlisle and really the powers at

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01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 3: work there for the Pacers, you know, obviously starting with

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01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 3: the owner, Herb Simon, like they have earned. I think

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01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 3: the benefit of the of the doubt. I'll throw Chad

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01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 3: by Kennon in there as well. I think they've earned

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Speaker 3: the benefit of the doubt when it comes to retooling

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Speaker 3: this team, considering where they were just around four or

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01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 3: five years ago to where they are now.

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01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 2: You also have the eternal debate too, about do you

2254
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:34,800
Speaker 2: try a bunch of new lineups and young guys and

2255
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:38,679
Speaker 2: along the way you lose games because you're experimenting so much.

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Speaker 2: But as they develop, these young guys, do you not

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Speaker 2: want them also to be part of that culture of

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01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 2: Pacers basketball, which is you fight for a good position

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01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 2: all the time.

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Speaker 1: That that's just part of the DNA of being an

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Speaker 1: Indiana Pacer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, even listening to Alex, you know

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01:39:57,760 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 3: they try to do things the right way with ethics

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01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 3: and all that. Ethics do not matter in this And

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01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 3: quite honestly, if you roll a team out there that

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01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:09,280
Speaker 3: doesn't include Pasowski Yakamu because you feel like you know

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01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 3: what you've got it all start note we're gonna shut

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01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 3: it down and let these young guys play. They'll lose

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01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 3: inevitably could they're not good enough to win without them,

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Speaker 3: So I don't know about I can go that far

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01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:20,640
Speaker 3: to say, like, oh, they're gonna get out there and

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01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:23,760
Speaker 3: you know, really embrace the Pacers way, like no they're

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01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 3: gonna go out there and stink, because that's what teams

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01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:27,559
Speaker 3: usually do when they don't play their risk players.

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Speaker 4: I mean, James weren't on the beat when they tanked

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01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 4: a few years ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, They just did it in a less obvious manner,

2278
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 3: as like the Sixers did with the process.

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01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 4: Since then, they've made the Eastern Conference Finals in the

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01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 4: NBA Finals, and we're half away from winning all. I

2281
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:45,799
Speaker 4: don't think that damaged the winning culture of the franchise.

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01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:47,599
Speaker 4: I tend to think the winning culture is that guy

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01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 4: that is sitting there in street clothes and once he's

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01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 4: putting zero, once he's put on a PACER's uniform, if.

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01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 3: He's trying to sell him on losing, they'll come in

2286
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:57,600
Speaker 3: the future. I'm probably saying, uh, yeah, let's reevaluate this.

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01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 2: You know what gets mentioned Terry's Haliburton gets mentioned by

2288
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 2: Kaitlyn Clark almost all the time.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 2: I love the fact that she looks at him as

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01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:08,679
Speaker 2: that's the kind of player I want to be. Ultimate

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01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 2: point guard, can score when you need to, all those

2293
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:15,320
Speaker 2: kinds of things. She made her debut on NBC last

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01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 2: night with Reggie Miller. I think Maria Taylor, who's the

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01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:21,240
Speaker 2: fourth one. I was missing the very Mellowallo. It was

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Speaker 2: Carmelo Anthony.

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Speaker 4: I was right, Mark.

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01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 2: Do we have a little bit of that when she

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01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:26,560
Speaker 2: first was introduced on NBC last night, some of the

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01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 2: stuff that they were talking about and what she's got

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Speaker 2: going on. Let's listen to Caitlyn Clark making her NBC

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Speaker 2: Basketball night on NBC last night.

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Speaker 7: Edward joined bar our special correspondent. Welcome to the team,

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01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 7: Kaitlyn Clark.

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Speaker 13: Yes, MSG for a next game. So it's pretty cool.

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01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 7: I know it's our first NIXT game, first time feeling

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01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 7: the atmosphere. We got to get you to play on

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01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:49,000
Speaker 7: this court one day. We have to talk to Matt Adam.

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01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 7: Can we make it mellow?

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01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 4: Honestly?

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01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 13: If if it's a preseason game, we gotta get it done.

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01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 13: I don't think the Liberty will want to move a

2313
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 13: game over here, but we'll play anybody.

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01:41:57,880 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 7: How could you describe maybe the atmosphere you're first time

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01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 7: in it?

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01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 13: Well, I think as a player like this is kind

2318
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:04,120
Speaker 13: of when you feel the atmosphere the most is when

2319
01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:05,720
Speaker 13: you're out on the court warming up. So I mean

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01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 13: there's just a different type of buzz and obviously when

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01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:10,479
Speaker 13: Lebron comes to town, it's probably really different. But you know,

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01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 13: Knicks fans are crazy and I love it. I love

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01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:14,959
Speaker 13: people that are passionate about basketball, so it's pretty incredible.

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Speaker 2: So that was Kaitlyn Clark making her debut on NBC.

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Speaker 2: Did they use her a little bit like Michael Jordan?

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Speaker 2: Where Okay, we talked to her for a few minutes

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01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 2: to here and now we just move on because I

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01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 2: know she wasn't around halftime, so.

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01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 4: Well, I mean she was there live though the Jordan

2330
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 4: stuff was pair.

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01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 1: That's true that she's going to do.

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01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 4: This again sometime either later February or March, if I'm

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01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 4: not mistaken on that end. So I'm just glad we

2334
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:41,719
Speaker 4: played that audio, not Reggie Miller calling her Peyton Pritchard.

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Speaker 3: I mean you no, I was going to get to that.

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01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,320
Speaker 3: You're asking if she should be used like Michael Jordan.

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01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 3: Reggie says she should be used like Peyton Pritchard. Kid,

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Speaker 3: What was that?

2339
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 4: That was the biggest compliment Peyton Pritchard's that in his life.

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01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 3: Kaitlyn Clark, shout out to you because your face will

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01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,760
Speaker 3: always tell the truth. I mean, I've seen it in

2342
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:03,760
Speaker 3: post game press conference is now even talking to her

2343
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 3: after she didn't make the Olympic team. You could see

2344
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 3: her body language just telling us totally different answers than

2345
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 3: her actual words coming out of her mouth.

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01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:11,640
Speaker 4: She can't when her teammates screw up.

2347
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, and one of her teammates screwed up in that instance.

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01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 3: I think that was that was pretty bad, right, Yes.

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01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:21,320
Speaker 1: I also saw something on social media.

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01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 2: Leah Boston was on somebody's podcast and they asked her, like,

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01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:26,640
Speaker 2: who are her favorite people in the w NBA, And

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01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 2: she didn't even hesitate. She basically said, Kelsey and Caitlyn

2353
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 2: love those girls. We laugh, we cut up, we have

2354
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:35,439
Speaker 2: a great time all the time. Could imagine life without them?

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01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty interesting.

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01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 3: Could you imagine if she didn't say Kaitlin exactly gonna

2357
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 3: help with some of the team pr.

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01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 1: Those are the big three you build around though, right.

2359
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I just hope we get a

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01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 3: season that starts on time. And it sounds like Kaitlyn's

2361
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 3: optimistic about it's all be optimistic with.

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01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:58,719
Speaker 2: Her, all right, That's what's happening on NBA night on NBC.

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01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:00,799
Speaker 1: Let's get to the rest of it. Everything else happening

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Speaker 2: Indeed, the NBA All Star Game, which was held here

2370
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:26,519
Speaker 2: a not all that long ago, will be in Los

2371
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 2: Angeles on the fifteenth of February, and Kevin Bowen Pascal

2372
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 2: Siakam will be.

2373
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 1: A part of the festivities there.

2374
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 2: Selected by the coaches over the weekend to be the

2375
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:38,679
Speaker 2: representative for the Indiana Pacers.

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01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, beyond well deserved. I mean, he has been an

2377
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 4: All Star level player this season. I think in particular,

2378
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 4: he's been a really clutch player. I know the Pacers

2379
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:48,640
Speaker 4: haven't had a pun of games in that realm, but

2380
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:51,760
Speaker 4: he has stepped up when they've needed him there, and

2381
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 4: I think at times, you know, when you get into

2382
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 4: the All Stars, I understand there's a winning element that matters,

2383
01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:58,760
Speaker 4: but I think for one of the twelve spots, I

2384
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 4: thought Pascal Siakam more than earned that notion.

2385
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:05,599
Speaker 2: Twenty four points, four assists, seven rebounds a game so far,

2386
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 2: and even during this really tough season the Pacers have had.

2387
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 1: He has been a shining light night in and night out.

2388
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 3: James Boyd yep one of the best players in the

2389
01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 3: league and got rewarded as such.

2390
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 2: All Right, They will host the Houston Rockets tonight six

2391
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 2: thirty airtime here on the fan. Tip comes just after

2392
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 2: seven o'clock. No Kevin Durant, though he will be out

2393
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:26,160
Speaker 2: with the left ankle spring. I know that'll be a

2394
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:28,320
Speaker 2: disappointment to a lot of folks that we're looking forward

2395
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:31,639
Speaker 2: to seeing Kevin Durant. Probably a few folks that bought

2396
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 2: tickets to this game in advance because they wanted to

2397
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 2: see KD.

2398
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:36,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to Kevin Durant, the petty, a superstar

2399
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 3: in the NBA.

2400
01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 1: I love Kevin Durant.

2401
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:42,800
Speaker 2: College basketball. On Sunday yesterday, Purdue snapped their losing streak.

2402
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 2: They beat Maryland by a score of ninety three sixty three.

2403
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:48,120
Speaker 2: Fletcher Lawyer went off from three point range, seven to

2404
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:50,599
Speaker 2: ten from beyond the arc, twenty nine points in total.

2405
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 2: Braden Smith scored nineteen game outcome never in doubt Saturday night,

2406
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 2: though big win for Indiana over UCLA took him two overtimes,

2407
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:00,479
Speaker 2: but they won it ninety eight ninety seven. Nick Doran

2408
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 2: scored twenty six points. Indiana is starting to look like

2409
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:04,800
Speaker 2: a little bit of a player in the Big ten.

2410
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:06,800
Speaker 2: Govin Yeah, I.

2411
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:08,840
Speaker 4: Was certainly a player in the NC tournament. I don't

2412
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:10,680
Speaker 4: know if we're at the Big ten just yet with

2413
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 4: how the standings look, but nonetheless, great, great week for

2414
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 4: Danren Devrees and company. Again, the insertion of Nick nick

2415
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:20,360
Speaker 4: Dorn into the starting lineup is huge, you know, all

2416
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 4: the attention to Lamar Wilkerson, all the attention to Tucker Devrees. Honestly,

2417
01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:25,759
Speaker 4: probably some of it needs to come away from Deres

2418
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,560
Speaker 4: and go to some other people if you're defending Indiana.

2419
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:31,680
Speaker 4: But yeah, great great week. Wild game boy, we want

2420
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 4: to talk about one for the heart and now they

2421
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 4: play with house money tomorrow night. You know, that's one

2422
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:38,640
Speaker 4: of those games where you would have signed up for

2423
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 4: a split out West. You've already secured at least that

2424
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 4: they'll have a USC tomorrow night, probably the easier of

2425
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 4: the two opponents. If you look at UCLA and USC.

2426
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:48,680
Speaker 4: That's a late one ten o'clock on the.

2427
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 2: Cocky right there. Mark Dykton scrambling the hit buttons over there.

2428
01:46:56,800 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 2: Why am I always amused at McK cronin's vitual unhappiness

2429
01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 2: in the post games whenever his team lose.

2430
01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 1: Why am I amused by all this?

2431
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 3: Because he's not leading your program? Put it like that, boy,

2432
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:12,639
Speaker 3: he does not give you much hope after a loss.

2433
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 4: Uh.

2434
01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:15,639
Speaker 2: Coming up in the next couple of days, college basketball

2435
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 2: Tomorrow night, Indiana at USC. It'll be a late one.

2436
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 2: On Wednesday, Butler travels to Providence. Notre Dame will play

2437
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 2: at Louisville. That was a tough loss over the weekend

2438
01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 2: for Notre Dame.

2439
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, indeed, thanks for a mind that's it. I'm glad

2440
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 4: that you said that, like you were living to die

2441
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:33,200
Speaker 4: on through the forty minutes like that. Did you see

2442
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 4: one minute of it?

2443
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:38,080
Speaker 2: I did actually see you get the CW I did?

2444
01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 1: I got it?

2445
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:42,040
Speaker 2: Whatever posted on my direct TV. You go to the

2446
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 2: main page and it says turn on this channel. So

2447
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:46,519
Speaker 2: saw a few minutes of that.

2448
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:49,120
Speaker 4: I was thinking I was locked in Kevin just like you.

2449
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:50,600
Speaker 2: No, I didn't watch the whole game, but I was

2450
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 2: thinking about Kevin momentarily.

2451
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:54,680
Speaker 3: Well, boy, we might have some furniture moving up and.

2452
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 2: Here folks, all right, we won't get a goalie fight

2453
01:47:58,439 --> 01:47:59,799
Speaker 2: like we saw in the NHL Stadium.

2454
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 1: He's yesterday, will we I mean we might.

2455
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:04,760
Speaker 3: That's what Ken has given you, that look like you know,

2456
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:06,880
Speaker 3: watch watch way we know you next step.

2457
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:09,640
Speaker 5: I feel like, much like the All Star Games, the

2458
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 5: Stadium series, Slash Winter Classic has kind of jumped the

2459
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 5: shark at this point.

2460
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:13,280
Speaker 7: Now.

2461
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 1: Last night that was awesome.

2462
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 4: I wasn't even aware it was on.

2463
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:17,640
Speaker 1: Lightning beat Boston six' five in.

2464
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:21,040
Speaker 2: Overtime but anytime you got an outdoor game and the

2465
01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:22,639
Speaker 2: goalie fight breaks, Out i'm.

2466
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:24,799
Speaker 1: There. MARK i thought you were kind of a hockey.

2467
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 5: GUY i, MEAN i somewhat, end BUT i Mean i'm

2468
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:30,759
Speaker 5: not aware that there's what there was The stadium series

2469
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:33,760
Speaker 5: that got postponed because of weather or something and all that.

2470
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:35,880
Speaker 4: Stuff so, YEAH i feel like we've kind of jumped

2471
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 4: the shark with.

2472
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 6: That all?

2473
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:40,640
Speaker 2: Right Justin, rose no problem Whenning Tory pines and The

2474
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 2: Farmer's insurance open wire to wire record breaking twenty three

2475
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:48,560
Speaker 2: under par and he Got tiger's, record.

2476
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 1: And he, said that's all he thought.

2477
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 2: About the last three, holes go, ahead get THE i

2478
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 2: WANT i want a record From Tiger.

2479
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 4: Woods dominant By Justin rose from start to. Finish there

2480
01:48:57,160 --> 01:49:00,559
Speaker 4: At Tory, pines we get the waste management. Open that's

2481
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:03,519
Speaker 4: always one of the more livelier, events of, course of

2482
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:06,000
Speaker 4: that Sixteenth part three coming up this week on THE Pga.

2483
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:07,960
Speaker 2: Tour one of my Favorite reds from the, past coming

2484
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 2: back to the team at the age of thirty, four

2485
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 2: the one, year fifteen million dollar deal You Heinio, souarez the,

2486
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 2: slugger inserted into The reds starting lineup to be a

2487
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 2: little bit of a bat to help Protect elie de La.

2488
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 4: Cruz, certainly, Yeah reds needed, obviously we saw the pursuit

2489
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 4: failed pursuit Of Kylee schwarber earlier in the. Offseason, here

2490
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:28,280
Speaker 4: so we're inch and closer to pitchers and catchers Here

2491
01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:29,799
Speaker 4: Joeli erickson's favorite HOLIDAY.

2492
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 1: Eso now but here come The Red. Lights let's go.

2493
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:34,680
Speaker 4: To a playoff team from last.

2494
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 2: Year let's go and you guys gave. Up who was

2495
01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:39,680
Speaker 2: the one that didn't give up on.

2496
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:41,680
Speaker 1: The reds last, Year? James that was.

2497
01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 2: YOU i willed them into the, Postseason yes you, did

2498
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 2: and then reality caught up with.

2499
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:48,280
Speaker 5: This BUT i Think kevin tried to climb back on

2500
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 5: the bandwagon battered and Bruise i'm still here any room

2501
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:54,360
Speaker 5: for me and jumped immediately back off as they got.

2502
01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 4: Bounced they got ten run ruled in both games because The.

2503
01:49:56,920 --> 01:50:01,080
Speaker 2: DODGERS i did want to point out That Lou holtz

2504
01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:04,799
Speaker 2: is still with. Us he has been put into hospice.

2505
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:06,080
Speaker 2: CARE i believe at the age.

2506
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 1: Of lead into.

2507
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:11,799
Speaker 2: That quite the, Tease, NO I i was just saying

2508
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 2: prayers up To Lou. Haltz that's all, Man because there

2509
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:16,360
Speaker 2: are people on social media yester.

2510
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:18,120
Speaker 4: Years here in the next, minute.

2511
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 2: There were people on social media yesterday that were like

2512
01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 2: putting the captions up with the rest in peace and his.

2513
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 2: Family Skip holtz put out something, said, no he's still

2514
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:27,280
Speaker 2: fighting the good fight right.

2515
01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:28,519
Speaker 3: Now my boy is not in the.

2516
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:31,639
Speaker 5: Ground so this has been your Daily Lou holtz is alive,

2517
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:33,559
Speaker 5: update Unlike phil The.

2518
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:38,160
Speaker 2: Groundhogs no Win, Phil i'm here for.

2519
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:39,080
Speaker 1: It there's no win with you.

2520
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 4: Guys sounds like we have our head coaching. Psychic try

2521
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:43,960
Speaker 4: to transition from. That it sounds like we've gotten. Filled

2522
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 4: Clinton kubiak perhaps The Fernando mendoza head. COACH i want

2523
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 4: to say he was at the forty nine ers When

2524
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 4: mendoza was with cal curious of there was any interaction.

2525
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 4: There and Then Mike, lafleur so we do have brothers

2526
01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:59,040
Speaker 4: still along with the, Hardballs Mike lafleur With arizona that

2527
01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:02,000
Speaker 4: would be the. Rams see those are the reports. There

2528
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 4: as we Reach Super bowl Week, india night five and

2529
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 4: one on the year they Swept dallas over the weekend

2530
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 4: they are home coming. UP i want to say It's

2531
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 4: Grand rapids coming up On, friday SO i wanted to

2532
01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:15,680
Speaker 4: make sure we mentioned. That And, JAMES i know you

2533
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:19,360
Speaker 4: hit on this. Earlier Paul george twenty five game, Suspension,

2534
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:22,559
Speaker 4: craig If i'm, wrong is there a do you? Have

2535
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:25,680
Speaker 4: is there like multiple failed tests that lead to the

2536
01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:28,240
Speaker 4: twenty five game. Punishment it's just like second or.

2537
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 1: Third or.

2538
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 9: In THE.

2539
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 3: Nba BUT i believe that's the, Standard like if you

2540
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:36,639
Speaker 3: do not pass a drug, test regardless of your, history

2541
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:39,640
Speaker 3: whether you're a good, citizen bad cists and, whatever when

2542
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:41,559
Speaker 3: it comes to your drug, HISTORY i think the first

2543
01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:42,680
Speaker 3: defense is always twenty five.

2544
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:45,360
Speaker 4: Games his statement was he took the medication for a

2545
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 4: mental health.

2546
01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 3: Issue, yeah and so it wasn't like a physical. Thing

2547
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:52,559
Speaker 3: and we'll see if THE. Nba not that it'll change

2548
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 3: anything in the immediacy when it comes to his, suspension

2549
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 3: But i'm curious to see how THE nba approaches something

2550
01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:58,479
Speaker 3: like that down the.

2551
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:00,000
Speaker 1: Line all, right.

2552
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 2: Coming up at a, moment we will recap a big

2553
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 2: weekend in college hoops and take a look.

2554
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:06,200
Speaker 1: At what's to. Come what it all means is.

2555
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 2: We start to jockey for position in THE Ncaa, tournament

2556
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 2: even some seating position in The Big. Ten we'll talk

2557
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 2: about a next ninety three five and one oh seven five.

2558
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:17,240
Speaker 2: Defect smart dyke in the groundhog has spoken or at

2559
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:18,080
Speaker 2: least retreated.

2560
01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:21,800
Speaker 5: Today, Correct, YEAH i saw a shadow and he left

2561
01:52:21,880 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 5: us all you know in winter hell for the next

2562
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 5: six more.

2563
01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 2: Weeks, well it's going to be almost thirty two degrees.

2564
01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:29,439
Speaker 2: Today we might get above freezing before it's all said and,

2565
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 2: done ALTHOUGH i see the official forecast is thirty, one

2566
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 2: so hold on.

2567
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 1: Tight might warm up a little.

2568
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 2: Bit we were talking about college basketball and what it

2569
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:39,160
Speaker 2: meant this past weekend and what we have coming up right.

2570
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 2: Now Kevin Bowen purdue is the number ten team in

2571
01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:46,680
Speaker 2: net ranking right. Now if you're starting to look at to,

2572
01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:49,920
Speaker 2: bracketology twenty nine is Where indiana is.

2573
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 1: Now they've been moving up quite a.

2574
01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 2: Bit they moved up three spots after their win AGAINST

2575
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:57,600
Speaker 2: ucla and then on the. BUBBLE i don't even know

2576
01:52:57,640 --> 01:52:59,360
Speaker 2: if it's on the bubble, really because way down at

2577
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:02,760
Speaker 2: sixty four Is butler and then the low eighties Is Notre.

2578
01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 2: Dame so obviously those two schools have some work to,

2579
01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:07,600
Speaker 2: do And butler especially needs to find a way to

2580
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:10,080
Speaker 2: pick up some, wins some quality wins somewhere along the.

2581
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 4: Way, YEAH i thought i'd saw pretty at eight this.

2582
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:14,160
Speaker 4: MORNING i thought, thirty BUT i could be.

2583
01:53:14,200 --> 01:53:16,599
Speaker 2: Wrong i'm looking AT Cbs sports right. Now that's their net,

2584
01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:18,080
Speaker 2: ranking so we'll see off of.

2585
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 4: That but, Yeah butler definitely outside looking AT i, mean

2586
01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:22,759
Speaker 4: that was a really poor loss On saturday at. Home

2587
01:53:23,160 --> 01:53:25,080
Speaker 4: they will be on the road this week and then

2588
01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:27,519
Speaker 4: they will Have. YUKON i believe we might have to

2589
01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 4: take a good aways for that later this. Week A

2590
01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 4: yukon inside A hinkle coming. Out that's our next home

2591
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:35,680
Speaker 4: game a week From, wednesday and, boy it's all but

2592
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 4: a must. Win like their resume has got to get

2593
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 4: something offset a loss like, that so that will be

2594
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:44,599
Speaker 4: the upse that they. Need, Obviously yukon looking, very very.

2595
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 4: Good and, honestly this is a season WHERE i MEAN

2596
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:49,680
Speaker 4: i Watched Michigan, FRIDAY i Had. Michigan Michigan sacing was.

2597
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 4: Outstanding arizona's still. Undefeated, boy it just seems like one

2598
01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:57,040
Speaker 4: of these years WHERE i could talk myself into seven

2599
01:53:57,320 --> 01:54:01,000
Speaker 4: eight teams that you, know could not only be here

2600
01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 4: In indy for The final, four but cut down those

2601
01:54:03,439 --> 01:54:04,800
Speaker 4: nets on that First monday In.

2602
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 1: April it's gonna be fun to. Watch. Mark we are

2603
01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 1: in the midst of award. Season should we pass out

2604
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:11,800
Speaker 1: some awards of our? Own right? Now who is the?

2605
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 3: Goat i'd go with you all THAT i was the

2606
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 3: greatest of all, Time.

2607
01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:18,040
Speaker 1: Jordan Here's michael at the. FILINE i shot ON.

2608
01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:36,120
Speaker 14: E got or goat this guy sucks of the?

2609
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 4: Week all?

2610
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:40,920
Speaker 2: Right the best and the worst of the, week as

2611
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:42,880
Speaker 2: we have, It. March you've been gone for a few.

2612
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:44,160
Speaker 2: Days gonna let you lead off.

2613
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 4: Today, okay we're going lower upper. Case what are we doing?

2614
01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 4: Here go?

2615
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:49,720
Speaker 1: Best go to the?

2616
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:51,120
Speaker 4: Week, okay my best.

2617
01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 5: Goes to Aj styles wrestler was at The Royal. Rumble

2618
01:54:55,840 --> 01:54:58,000
Speaker 5: he lost his match against Gun through over the, weekend

2619
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 5: which means he must retire FROM, Wwe so a twenty

2620
01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:04,600
Speaker 5: five year career. Done there put ten years of work

2621
01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:08,120
Speaker 5: in ww, keynote though he didn't take his gloves off

2622
01:55:08,120 --> 01:55:10,200
Speaker 5: and leave him in the, ring which means there are

2623
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 5: people thinking that he might pop up in some other

2624
01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 5: affiliations and pro. Wrestling so hell of a career for Aj.

2625
01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:19,040
Speaker 5: Styles ten years of work AT, wwe and we'll see

2626
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 5: what the next chapter brings.

2627
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 1: Him nicely. Done what About?

2628
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,560
Speaker 4: Uso he did not win The Royal.

2629
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:27,840
Speaker 5: Rumble Roman reigns won this, year so back to back

2630
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:32,560
Speaker 5: years of a family member of the tribal chief. Winning

2631
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 5: so Jay uzo won last, Year Roman rains wins this,

2632
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:37,240
Speaker 5: year so he punches his tickets to the main event Of.

2633
01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 5: WrestleMania and for the, women we saw Liv morgan win

2634
01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:41,400
Speaker 5: the Women's Royal.

2635
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 1: RUMBLE i like, It James, boyd what's on your?

2636
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:47,960
Speaker 3: Mind my good? Goat i'll roll With Tender Grove girls

2637
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:51,160
Speaker 3: basketball Finished. Rose he's in twenty two to zero, Undefeated

2638
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 3: so now As herman. Time can you run the table

2639
01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:57,400
Speaker 3: and win a state championship in the highest class without

2640
01:55:57,520 --> 01:55:59,520
Speaker 3: having a loss on your? Resume that will put them

2641
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:02,400
Speaker 3: in some very rare, Air Kevin, Bowen, YEAH.

2642
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 4: I mission That michigan mentioned That. Michigan easy for me to,

2643
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:08,320
Speaker 4: Say Michigan Michigan state Game friday. NIGHT i love the

2644
01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:11,160
Speaker 4: picture that's going around the waves right now Of Dusty

2645
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:13,720
Speaker 4: may just chilling on the bench about an hour before

2646
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:16,840
Speaker 4: tip off in The Michigan state student section given him

2647
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 4: the Business Dusty. May and WHEN i say, chilling that

2648
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 4: man was chilling and he knew full well what team

2649
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 4: he was about to bring out on the floor an hour.

2650
01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:27,840
Speaker 4: LATER i got a little dicey there in the second,

2651
01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:29,880
Speaker 4: Half michigan made the plays down the, stretch and we

2652
01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 4: talk about teams that can get it done. THERE i

2653
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 4: think it is Definitely michigan potentially to win it. All

2654
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:39,040
Speaker 4: So Dusty may goat performance from him this.

2655
01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:41,400
Speaker 1: Weekend he did look like he was enjoying himself out,

2656
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:44,880
Speaker 1: there didn't. He i'm gonna go With Nick dorn. Straightforward.

2657
01:56:45,200 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 2: Man indiana puts, him he gets him, back puts him

2658
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:49,560
Speaker 2: in the starting, lineup.

2659
01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:50,360
Speaker 1: And they've won three in a.

2660
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:54,720
Speaker 2: Row he scored twenty six in their double overtime win AGAINST, ucla.

2661
01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:56,000
Speaker 1: And they got three guys that can really.

2662
01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:57,840
Speaker 2: Score, now they got a couple of other guys can

2663
01:56:57,920 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 2: light it up here and there every now and then

2664
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:03,800
Speaker 2: they start, playing you, know real defense. Consistently that could

2665
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:05,839
Speaker 2: be a team that teams just don't want to play

2666
01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:07,840
Speaker 2: in The big ten tournament and maybe even the first

2667
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:11,880
Speaker 2: day or two of THE ncaa tournament for. Sure, yeah, Uh,

2668
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:14,320
Speaker 2: mark what do you have for your lowercase gout this?

2669
01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 4: Week?

2670
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 5: Okay my lowercase goat goes To Jarrell. Miller, miller you

2671
01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:23,920
Speaker 5: stole my. Guy he was in a boxing match over the.

2672
01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:26,200
Speaker 5: Weekend he ended up, winning but that's not why he's

2673
01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:28,720
Speaker 5: lowercase goats because of the viral moment that went around

2674
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 5: the internet where he got punched so hard his two

2675
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:34,560
Speaker 5: pay got knocked, off AND i feel like you can't

2676
01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:35,920
Speaker 5: come back from. That LIKE i didn't know in The

2677
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:37,840
Speaker 5: year Of Our lord twenty twenty, six with all the

2678
01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:41,600
Speaker 5: We Grow hair indies And regrow hair, products folks are

2679
01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 5: still rocking two. Pays but apparently that's the, case especially

2680
01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 5: in such a physical sport like. BOXING i don't know

2681
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 5: how you come back from. THAT i don't even care

2682
01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 5: if he wins a million world heavyweight. Titles how do

2683
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:52,360
Speaker 5: you come back from getting your two pay knocked? Off

2684
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:55,360
Speaker 5: on television And andrews online one.

2685
01:57:55,320 --> 01:57:55,720
Speaker 4: Right.

2686
01:57:57,240 --> 01:57:57,800
Speaker 1: Gotta save.

2687
01:57:57,880 --> 01:58:03,120
Speaker 4: Face you haven't seen. It it is very very. FUNNY

2688
01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:07,240
Speaker 4: i laughed really really. Hard james to pay was very well.

2689
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:10,120
Speaker 4: Shaped IF i most, compliment, yeah it really, was and it.

2690
01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:13,120
Speaker 3: Was that's a moment where, YOU i guess you just

2691
01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:14,320
Speaker 3: got to own, it. RIGHT i don't know if you

2692
01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:17,520
Speaker 3: can get a brand deal out of, that but, yeah

2693
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:20,400
Speaker 3: and maybe some super cool you, know endorsement deals out of.

2694
01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:23,240
Speaker 3: There My laura ks go will Be Reggie. MILLER i

2695
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 3: know he gets a lot of love around, here, rightfully

2696
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:28,040
Speaker 3: so he's a. Legend he is to go to the

2697
01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:31,360
Speaker 3: franchise for the. Pacers but to Compare Caitlyn clark To

2698
01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:40,480
Speaker 3: Peyton pritchard, brother that was, egregious egregious and so. Like

2699
01:58:41,320 --> 01:58:44,160
Speaker 3: the look On caitlyn's face is SOMETHING i will never.

2700
01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:46,640
Speaker 3: Forget she looked, like how dare she should have bomked

2701
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:48,840
Speaker 3: him on the head with her? Mic that was so?

2702
01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:51,480
Speaker 3: Bad So, reggie get it, together, brother give us some

2703
01:58:51,480 --> 01:58:52,680
Speaker 3: better analysis than. That that was.

2704
01:58:53,200 --> 01:58:55,840
Speaker 5: Terrible she looked like she just saw the guys get

2705
01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 5: his two pay knocked. Off that's what her facial reaction.

2706
01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:01,080
Speaker 4: Was, yes, YES i had a Feeling James boyd And

2707
01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:03,240
Speaker 4: ivy and say. Wavelength, YEAH i Think i've made it

2708
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:05,040
Speaker 4: clear throughout these two and a half hours of the

2709
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:08,040
Speaker 4: show WHAT i think Of Reggie miller's comments there absolutely.

2710
01:59:08,040 --> 01:59:10,360
Speaker 4: Idiotic and, YES i would have loved to have Seen

2711
01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:13,440
Speaker 4: Carmelo anthony step in there and say. Something maybe he

2712
01:59:13,480 --> 01:59:15,840
Speaker 4: was so caught off guard that he saw ghosts. There So,

2713
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:19,000
Speaker 4: reggie when you appear On Dan patrick this week throughout the,

2714
01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:21,480
Speaker 4: apology Man, MARK i go back to Jire.

2715
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:24,880
Speaker 2: Miller not only did he lose the two, pay but

2716
01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:27,240
Speaker 2: then he tore the whole thing off after he came,

2717
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:28,920
Speaker 2: loose throws it into the.

2718
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:31,440
Speaker 1: Crowd but the crowd's got to be involved.

2719
01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 4: Here they start passing it, around they're taking selfies with.

2720
01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:38,600
Speaker 3: It, yeah that Was that's, Crazy.

2721
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:41,800
Speaker 1: Like a trophy. Deer can you?

2722
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:44,400
Speaker 2: Imagine do you want to hold somebody else's to pay

2723
01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:44,680
Speaker 2: in your?

2724
01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:49,560
Speaker 1: Hand has been sweating in its? Collection man o man oh?

2725
01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:52,640
Speaker 2: Man Uh so then he just threw it into the,

2726
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:54,240
Speaker 2: crowd so he.

2727
01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:55,800
Speaker 1: Goes so it's, funny.

2728
01:59:55,880 --> 01:59:57,600
Speaker 2: RIGHT i get to my mama's house and she has

2729
01:59:57,600 --> 02:00:00,360
Speaker 2: some shampoo bottles on the, table SO i shampoo my

2730
02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:04,920
Speaker 2: hair and that stuff was like an ammonium, bleach he

2731
02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:07,480
Speaker 2: said an. INTERVIEW i literally lost my hair two days.

2732
02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:10,880
Speaker 2: Ago so he decided to do something about. It and

2733
02:00:11,200 --> 02:00:12,240
Speaker 2: that's what, Happened that's what he.

2734
02:00:12,280 --> 02:00:14,920
Speaker 4: Said they fashion it to pay that. Quickly it seems like.

2735
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:17,800
Speaker 3: An a turnaroundily mind that one right, there.

2736
02:00:19,400 --> 02:00:22,680
Speaker 2: Right that's the best and worst of the, week certainly

2737
02:00:22,680 --> 02:00:24,480
Speaker 2: of the weekend that was coming up at a.

2738
02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:25,200
Speaker 1: Moment we'll tell you.

2739
02:00:25,080 --> 02:00:27,160
Speaker 2: What to look forward to tonight as we continue on

2740
02:00:27,240 --> 02:00:31,000
Speaker 2: ninety three five and one seven five the fan coming

2741
02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:33,040
Speaker 2: up With Noon, Today Jay, Query i'll take you to

2742
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:36,240
Speaker 2: three o'clock and THEN jmb has the ride for you

2743
02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:39,320
Speaker 2: beginning at three. Pm pacers tonight start at six thirty

2744
02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:41,520
Speaker 2: with the Airtime Pat boyle And i'll have that and

2745
02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:43,440
Speaker 2: And Mark boyle has the play by play With Eddie.

2746
02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:46,960
Speaker 2: Uh that'll be just after seven o'clock with the tip

2747
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:49,680
Speaker 2: and the play by. Play just checking The ladies bracketology

2748
02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:53,440
Speaker 2: ON espn right, now Says purdue is a three seed

2749
02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:57,080
Speaker 2: at this point in time and That indiana is one

2750
02:00:57,120 --> 02:00:59,920
Speaker 2: of the last four In, kevin.

2751
02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:01,080
Speaker 1: So still work to. Do indiana's.

2752
02:01:01,480 --> 02:01:04,240
Speaker 2: Rising they've been playing better of late and produce still

2753
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:07,120
Speaker 2: kind of hanging around that two three, line the.

2754
02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:08,920
Speaker 1: Three after that little bit of a losing streak.

2755
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:10,920
Speaker 4: There, WELL i would think after this Weekend, indiana is

2756
02:01:10,960 --> 02:01:13,960
Speaker 4: that including The ucla. WIN i wouldn't think that would be.

2757
02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:16,720
Speaker 4: UH i think there should be a lot higher than.

2758
02:01:16,720 --> 02:01:19,200
Speaker 1: That they have not updated it yet, today but that

2759
02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:20,320
Speaker 1: was going into last.

2760
02:01:20,400 --> 02:01:23,320
Speaker 4: Night so, well, YEAH i Think indiana with A purdue

2761
02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:27,120
Speaker 4: win and At ucla would be above whatever first four.

2762
02:01:27,200 --> 02:01:29,920
Speaker 2: In but, yeah they've been playing really really. Well we

2763
02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:32,760
Speaker 2: talked About Nick dorr and what he's been able to help.

2764
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:36,000
Speaker 2: Them it just gives him another big time. Score and

2765
02:01:36,080 --> 02:01:38,160
Speaker 2: so now you've got three guys you're gonna have to deal.

2766
02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:39,800
Speaker 2: With AND i thought you laid it out pretty well

2767
02:01:40,040 --> 02:01:41,640
Speaker 2: early in the show and it's gonna be a lot

2768
02:01:41,680 --> 02:01:43,320
Speaker 2: of fun to. Watch and of course The pacers back

2769
02:01:43,360 --> 02:01:46,000
Speaker 2: at home tonight taking on The Houston. ROCKETS i talked

2770
02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:48,800
Speaker 2: about the next eight games that they. Have it's conceivable

2771
02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:51,040
Speaker 2: they win four or five of those games when you

2772
02:01:51,080 --> 02:01:53,200
Speaker 2: look at the other teams they're playing right, Now, james

2773
02:01:53,320 --> 02:01:55,640
Speaker 2: the way they've been, PLAYING i, know and.

2774
02:01:55,640 --> 02:01:57,440
Speaker 3: That could change a whole. Lot BUT i think the

2775
02:01:57,440 --> 02:02:00,560
Speaker 3: big thing this week is a trade deadline three Pm.

2776
02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:05,520
Speaker 3: Thursday do The pacers look different from today versus that?

2777
02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:09,000
Speaker 2: Day what are you most looking forward to seeing this

2778
02:02:09,080 --> 02:02:10,840
Speaker 2: week as you look ahead to the week of, sports

2779
02:02:10,840 --> 02:02:13,320
Speaker 2: whether it's the college basketball games or a couple of

2780
02:02:13,400 --> 02:02:15,680
Speaker 2: games back to back for The, pacers and how they're

2781
02:02:15,680 --> 02:02:17,840
Speaker 2: going to play this whole. THING i know you're looking

2782
02:02:17,840 --> 02:02:19,800
Speaker 2: forward to the to the trade, deadline but ending tonight,

2783
02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:21,080
Speaker 2: tomorrow you're really looking forward.

2784
02:02:21,120 --> 02:02:21,200
Speaker 7: To.

2785
02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:24,720
Speaker 4: No, NO i mean nothing compares To. THURSDAY i mean

2786
02:02:24,760 --> 02:02:28,640
Speaker 4: it's A i mean it's a huge point in The

2787
02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:32,120
Speaker 4: pacers franchise in terms of this next. Era you, know

2788
02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:34,960
Speaker 4: what does it look? Like you, know is there any

2789
02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:36,960
Speaker 4: part of you that, says, hey we feel like we

2790
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:39,240
Speaker 4: can execute a sign and trade With. Matherin let's wait

2791
02:02:39,280 --> 02:02:41,480
Speaker 4: until we know where our pick. Is, again they'll know

2792
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:45,520
Speaker 4: their pick come second week Of. May you, know we

2793
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:47,560
Speaker 4: could do something in the. Offseason do you run the risk,

2794
02:02:47,600 --> 02:02:50,520
Speaker 4: though of you, know how does that? Look, yes he

2795
02:02:50,640 --> 02:02:53,040
Speaker 4: is a restricted free agent With Benedic, matheren you can match,

2796
02:02:53,080 --> 02:02:55,840
Speaker 4: anything but, still you, know what's on the table here

2797
02:02:56,080 --> 02:02:58,400
Speaker 4: On february, Second february third is a little different than

2798
02:02:58,400 --> 02:03:01,160
Speaker 4: what could be on the table come. Summertime you, know

2799
02:03:01,200 --> 02:03:02,920
Speaker 4: this is usual where you see teams that are desperate

2800
02:03:03,280 --> 02:03:06,440
Speaker 4: or teams that feel a little bit more. Urgency, allah

2801
02:03:06,720 --> 02:03:08,560
Speaker 4: you Know Colt Sauce gardner, trade if you want to

2802
02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:12,120
Speaker 4: go down that path, Here so you, know, locally it's

2803
02:03:12,200 --> 02:03:16,040
Speaker 4: kind of a boring college basketball slate for us tomorrow.

2804
02:03:16,120 --> 02:03:17,800
Speaker 4: Night a lot of people being rem. Sleep by the

2805
02:03:17,840 --> 02:03:22,040
Speaker 4: time you tips off WITH, usc it's ten. O'clock purdue

2806
02:03:22,040 --> 02:03:25,280
Speaker 4: has no game this, Week butler on the road, here so,

2807
02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:27,560
Speaker 4: yeah you get it back to back with The, pacers

2808
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:29,520
Speaker 4: BUT i think everything's On thursday.

2809
02:03:29,560 --> 02:03:32,360
Speaker 1: Afternoon go back to THE Nba All Star.

2810
02:03:32,440 --> 02:03:34,920
Speaker 2: Game we've got complete rosters, now and the coaches have

2811
02:03:35,200 --> 02:03:37,560
Speaker 2: put In Pascal siak and we've talked about that all morning.

2812
02:03:37,640 --> 02:03:38,920
Speaker 1: Long one thing we haven't talked.

2813
02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:42,760
Speaker 2: About the Fact Lebron james a twenty second appearance in

2814
02:03:42,880 --> 02:03:43,840
Speaker 2: THE Nba All Star.

2815
02:03:43,920 --> 02:03:44,160
Speaker 1: Game.

2816
02:03:44,920 --> 02:03:49,720
Speaker 3: YEAH i read something about how he has the same

2817
02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:54,400
Speaker 3: amount Of All star appearances as The Eastern conference starting lineup.

2818
02:03:54,400 --> 02:03:59,880
Speaker 3: Combined so longevity at its finest right there For Lebron james.

2819
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:01,720
Speaker 1: Twenty two, years that's.

2820
02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:05,280
Speaker 2: Insane you want to talk about, consistent consistency and high

2821
02:04:05,360 --> 02:04:07,160
Speaker 2: LEVEL i know he's not The Lebron james have even

2822
02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:11,880
Speaker 2: three years, ago but his peers certainly still recognize and respect.

2823
02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:12,240
Speaker 1: Him.

2824
02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:14,400
Speaker 3: YEAH i Thought Kawhi lenders should have been in over,

2825
02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:16,600
Speaker 3: him to be honest with, you but, hey the coach is.

2826
02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:18,560
Speaker 3: Spoken they Chose Lebron.

2827
02:04:18,640 --> 02:04:21,520
Speaker 2: James, Yeah Kawhi leonard not getting The All Star, game

2828
02:04:21,560 --> 02:04:24,520
Speaker 2: which is crazy to. Me starters for The West Steph,

2829
02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:28,880
Speaker 2: Curry Shay, Gilgess Alexander, Luka, Donson's, victor Wimban, Yama Nikolai.

2830
02:04:28,920 --> 02:04:32,560
Speaker 2: Jokic The West, reserves We're Anthony, Edwards Jamal, murray Chet

2831
02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:35,680
Speaker 2: holmger And Kevin, Durant Devin, booker Uh denji Ed.

2832
02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:38,560
Speaker 1: Vid how do you Say Adisha Danny?

2833
02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:39,840
Speaker 3: AVIA i think that's how you Say.

2834
02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:44,320
Speaker 2: Idvia i've never heard his name actually. Mentioned Lebron james

2835
02:04:44,320 --> 02:04:46,560
Speaker 2: we talked about and in The east the Starters Jalen,

2836
02:04:46,560 --> 02:04:50,840
Speaker 2: Brunson Tyrese maxey K, Cunningham Jaylen, Brown, Giannis Antana. Koupo

2837
02:04:51,560 --> 02:04:55,640
Speaker 2: East Reserves Donovan, Mitchell Pascal, Siakam Norman, Powell Scottie, Barnes Jalen,

2838
02:04:55,760 --> 02:04:59,240
Speaker 2: Duran Jalen, Johnson Carl Anthony. Towns are we missing At

2839
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:00,400
Speaker 2: joel and b in there?

2840
02:05:00,440 --> 02:05:02,600
Speaker 1: Anywhere was? He was he a snub for?

2841
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:02,720
Speaker 7: You?

2842
02:05:02,840 --> 02:05:07,000
Speaker 4: KEVIN i feel like he's barely played, Right, yeah he's

2843
02:05:07,040 --> 02:05:08,280
Speaker 4: played more as of.

2844
02:05:08,360 --> 02:05:10,879
Speaker 3: LATE i want to, say he's missed maybe twenty games

2845
02:05:11,480 --> 02:05:14,720
Speaker 3: this year and you could just miss. Sixteen so is

2846
02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:17,600
Speaker 3: that such a big difference for? You he's played great.

2847
02:05:17,600 --> 02:05:19,400
Speaker 3: THOUGH i don't know who his surgeon is on his,

2848
02:05:19,520 --> 02:05:22,720
Speaker 3: knee but, boy The sixers should be thinking, that, man

2849
02:05:22,760 --> 02:05:24,000
Speaker 3: because he looks like a totally different.

2850
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:26,920
Speaker 4: Player and just to double check that For indiana fans freaking,

2851
02:05:26,960 --> 02:05:30,160
Speaker 4: out that bracketology was before THE ucla. Game, okay so

2852
02:05:30,200 --> 02:05:33,680
Speaker 4: that did not include a road win AT, ucla which

2853
02:05:33,720 --> 02:05:36,520
Speaker 4: again a quad one road. WIN i would think that

2854
02:05:36,560 --> 02:05:40,080
Speaker 4: would Bump indiana comfortably into the field as of, now.

2855
02:05:41,480 --> 02:05:47,000
Speaker 3: Number one seed, personally but we'll see how comfortable are we. Talking,

2856
02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:51,240
Speaker 3: Hey Nick norton never misses a three, Again, hey put

2857
02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:53,200
Speaker 3: him in, there number one, Seed Indiana hoosier's.

2858
02:05:53,200 --> 02:05:55,120
Speaker 2: Baby, hey, look the best part about being in The

2859
02:05:55,120 --> 02:05:58,440
Speaker 2: big ten right? Now best, part worst part whatever you

2860
02:05:58,480 --> 02:06:00,560
Speaker 2: get into THAT nc DOUBLE a to The Big ten.

2861
02:06:00,600 --> 02:06:03,480
Speaker 2: Tournament you get deep into that, tournament, man your your

2862
02:06:03,520 --> 02:06:05,040
Speaker 2: seed starts to go up a little.

2863
02:06:05,040 --> 02:06:08,280
Speaker 3: Bit, YEAH i mean they have to. Be i'm probably

2864
02:06:08,320 --> 02:06:10,160
Speaker 3: biased BECAUSE i watch a lot Of Big ten, basketball

2865
02:06:10,240 --> 02:06:13,080
Speaker 3: BUT i would think they're the best conference in the

2866
02:06:13,120 --> 02:06:13,720
Speaker 3: country right.

2867
02:06:13,720 --> 02:06:16,120
Speaker 1: Now, yeah and also it looks well.

2868
02:06:16,120 --> 02:06:18,720
Speaker 4: Definitely up there. Too but, yes, YEAH i mean obviously

2869
02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:21,160
Speaker 4: it's probably the Deepest james That i've seen The Big

2870
02:06:21,200 --> 02:06:23,640
Speaker 4: ten at the. Top, yeah in a. While you, know

2871
02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:25,480
Speaker 4: recent years was kind of Like purdue and then like

2872
02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:28,040
Speaker 4: one of The michigan, schools maybe you're fighting a LION

2873
02:06:28,120 --> 02:06:30,560
Speaker 4: i but like this, year it seems like it's a

2874
02:06:30,560 --> 02:06:34,000
Speaker 4: pretty legit you, know first really, five five or, six

2875
02:06:34,280 --> 02:06:36,320
Speaker 4: and you, know we'll see How indiana plays In, february

2876
02:06:36,400 --> 02:06:38,000
Speaker 4: but maybe they are knocking on that door in a.

2877
02:06:38,040 --> 02:06:38,280
Speaker 1: Month.

2878
02:06:38,520 --> 02:06:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah you had mentioned earlier that the coaching coaching cycle

2879
02:06:42,000 --> 02:06:42,520
Speaker 2: seems to be.

2880
02:06:42,640 --> 02:06:45,520
Speaker 1: Complete Clint. Kubiak is he.

2881
02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:48,800
Speaker 2: The next head coach For Fernando? Mendoza is he going

2882
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:50,200
Speaker 2: to be the number presumed number?

2883
02:06:50,240 --> 02:06:50,400
Speaker 14: One?

2884
02:06:50,440 --> 02:06:52,080
Speaker 1: Overall it looks Like kubiak is going to be the

2885
02:06:52,080 --> 02:06:53,480
Speaker 1: guy cons LIKE i Guess.

2886
02:06:53,560 --> 02:06:56,360
Speaker 4: Vegas those are the reports and again for THOSE i

2887
02:06:56,440 --> 02:06:58,400
Speaker 4: have no idea What Clint kubiak. Is he's the play

2888
02:06:58,400 --> 02:07:01,520
Speaker 4: caller For sunday For Seattle seahawks in The Super. Bowl,

2889
02:07:01,560 --> 02:07:04,600
Speaker 4: there so obviously The kubiak family, TREE i, think you

2890
02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:08,520
Speaker 4: know rains in THE, Nfl but, yeah it sounds like

2891
02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:11,640
Speaker 4: that's the move for The Las Vegas. Raiders Then Mike,

2892
02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:15,480
Speaker 4: LeFleur who that's the RAMS o. Season they could hire him,

2893
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:18,640
Speaker 4: officially or maybe they already did officially. Yesterday but looks

2894
02:07:18,680 --> 02:07:20,520
Speaker 4: like we got all ten filled up.

2895
02:07:20,520 --> 02:07:22,520
Speaker 2: Here you, know you start talking about The shanahan's and

2896
02:07:22,520 --> 02:07:24,280
Speaker 2: the KUBI, kx you not only have a family, tree

2897
02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:26,600
Speaker 2: you got a coaching tree going on there, too, right

2898
02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:29,960
Speaker 2: kind of Crazy Mike shanahan and his son the, Course

2899
02:07:30,040 --> 02:07:33,560
Speaker 2: kyle And. Mike his offensive coordinator for a lot of

2900
02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:36,360
Speaker 2: years Was Gary, kubiak and Then gary ended up being

2901
02:07:36,360 --> 02:07:38,520
Speaker 2: a head coach for The broncos when they won.

2902
02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:41,360
Speaker 1: Their Super bowl With Peyton. Manning and Now clint is

2903
02:07:41,400 --> 02:07:42,640
Speaker 1: doing his. Thing so so.

2904
02:07:42,600 --> 02:07:44,840
Speaker 2: It's happening in The National Football league again tonight six point.

2905
02:07:44,840 --> 02:07:47,640
Speaker 2: Thirty The pacers get things going with the airtime in

2906
02:07:47,720 --> 02:07:49,960
Speaker 2: the pregame and then the tip just after seven o'clock

2907
02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:52,000
Speaker 2: over at The. Fieldhouse AS i mentioned a moment, Ago

2908
02:07:52,080 --> 02:07:54,960
Speaker 2: jacob NOON jmv at three. Guys great job, Today, james

2909
02:07:54,960 --> 02:07:57,240
Speaker 2: welcome back you, Too Mark. Dychton we'll talk to you

2910
02:07:57,240 --> 02:07:57,720
Speaker 2: all tomorrow.

2911
02:07:57,720 --> 02:07:57,960
Speaker 1: Morning