1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: This is track Side with Kirk Cavin and Kevin Lee 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the fan. 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: What we're trying to build here, Aaron McLaren, since I've 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: been here, is to grow the team as far as 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: you know, winning, winning the championship, all the things that 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: every team will set up go ahead the beginning of 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: the lead. 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 3: The intention of running that car. 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: To me, it was like, I need a winner. I 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: need a guide that is going to be able to 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: win the five hundred, and there's not many guys that 12 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: are available right now. And I call Ryan and today, 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: you and I we are going to negotiate you and 14 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: I and we happy they still do it and we 15 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: may have. 16 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 4: That's Aaron McLaren. Team principal Tony Kannan on the confirmation 17 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 4: of Ryan Hunter Ray joining their lineup in a fourth 18 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 4: car for the Indianapolis five hundred and Ryan will be 19 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 4: on the show in just a few minutes, so what's 20 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 4: left will discuss. There's more sports car news for Indy 21 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 4: car drivers and teams. Ten of them we're testing at 22 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 4: Daytona over the weekend, and your Twitter questions from the 23 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 4: Xbox all coming up. Hello, Welcome, Thanks for joining us 24 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 4: landon Coons is in our studios downtown, Kevin Lee, Kurk 25 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 4: Cavin ready to chat. 26 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 5: For just a little bit. Let's get into it. 27 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 4: We've got a lot to cover in the second before 28 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 4: Ryan joins us. Confirmation one of those where sometimes I 29 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 4: throw one against the wall with I'd say it was 30 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 4: an educated opinion, but it was really just kind of 31 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 4: common sense. I thought Aera McLaren was probably ready to 32 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: move on from the superstar driver and get what is 33 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 4: most needed for them to compete and win their first 34 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 4: Indy five hundred since Johnny Rutherford and alas it is 35 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 4: Ryan Hunter Ray. 36 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: It does help in several different forms. I do think 37 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,279 Speaker 1: they probably explored some other options, but Ryan made good sense. 38 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: I think he helps most of all. He helps Poto Award. 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: He will help Christian Lutinguard as well. I mean Christian 40 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: probably needs the most help of the two of those obviously, 41 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: but I think he'll be a good sounding board for 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: Potter war that you know Potto didn't have last year 43 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: running with you know, still a very inexperienced oval driver 44 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: in Linguard, a very inexperienced IndyCar Series driver in Nolan 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: Siegel and Kyle Larson. So it'll be good for a 46 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: couple of different aspects of that organization. And I don't 47 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: think we can discount this. I think Hunter Ray could 48 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: win the race, literally win the race. He'll have a 49 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: good car. He was pretty well positioned last year. I know, 50 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, things still have to play out. They basically 51 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: ran out of fuel on his last He was going. 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 4: To be leading after the last pit stop. 53 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: So you like your chances whether or not he holds 54 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: on well, I mean, he's deal is going to have 55 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: to beat Pod of Award and he's still going to 56 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: have to beat Alex Pelow and Marcus Erickson. 57 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 4: Some of the guys that have the two Ray haul 58 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 4: cars a picks, but he would have been in pretty 59 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 4: good shape. 60 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you like, you like it on all fronts, 61 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: and I just you know, I saw the photos of 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: how to Ray. 63 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 4: It just he just looked happy. I haven't talked to 64 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: him yet. 65 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: We'll talk to him a little bit, but he's he 66 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: just looked like invigorated. I mean, he's had some good 67 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: decent runs here lately, but a couple of unfortunate situations, 68 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: what two years ago on the backstretch. But I think 69 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: he can win the race. 70 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 4: I chatted with him a little bit setting up the interview, 71 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 4: and he said, I listened. 72 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 5: To the show. 73 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 4: I heard your predictions and I wanted to tell you. 74 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 4: He said, you are one of the first that was 75 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: on this, and I wanted to tell you, but I 76 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: knew I I shouldn't and I can't. And I said, 77 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: that's the way I like it. It's more fun if 78 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: I can guess. And I'm I'm going to be wrong 79 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 4: sometimes on these things, but it's more fun if you 80 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 4: get to guess on that front. I think that's an 81 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: excellent point about Potto, you know. I think I had 82 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 4: thought it's a lot about helping Nolan Siegel, and it's 83 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 4: a lot about taking loan Guard to that final level. 84 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 4: But you're right, when you're a driver that's come so 85 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 4: close so many times, or even if you've wanted before, 86 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 4: if you're just a top level driver, you want someone 87 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 4: else to confirm, Hey, this doesn't feel right today, what's 88 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 4: going on? 89 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 5: And you have Ryan Hunter Ray in the car. 90 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: Who's done this for different teams. That's going to be big. 91 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 4: So I think this is a huge get. It's great 92 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 4: for Ryan Hunter Ray. You know, in some ways I 93 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 4: would say this is a no brainer. However, he was 94 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 4: in a really good situation and for just a moment 95 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 4: you could debate, all right, do I want to be 96 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 4: in someone's fourth car with part time people, or do 97 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 4: I want to be the premier focus for a team. 98 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 4: This is kind of the selling point that is not 99 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 4: just talk. I think it's real for Dryan Reinbold that 100 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 4: they have a full time crew, they have key people 101 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 4: in this. You're still going to choose the Aera McLaren 102 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 4: situation because of all the resources and being able to 103 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: bounce it off other teammates. But it's not like, oh 104 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 4: I was in a bad spot. I need to get 105 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 4: out of here as soon as I can. This now 106 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 4: creates a really good opportunity in a premiere opening for 107 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: the ND five hundred. 108 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: So no matter how I say this, this is going 109 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: to sound degrading to Dryan Reinbold. And I don't mean 110 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: that because I think they've got an excellent group of 111 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: guys scals. But they're only doing one race a year, 112 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: So there is that element just a little bit factored in. 113 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: And the other thing is as much as hownter Ray 114 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: will help podd Award Poddle Award will help Hunter Ray, 115 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: and it's it's beneficial in that direction as well, that 116 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: that Hunter Ray can say to Potto, are you feeling 117 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: what I'm feeling now? That isn't to say Jack Harvey 118 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: couldn't do that as well. But we all agree that 119 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: Potter Ward has been one of the best drivers of 120 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 1: the last six years at Indy. So this flows both ways. Again, 121 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: I mean no disrespect to what Dennis, Ryan Bolden and 122 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: friends have put together because it's admirable and I think 123 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: they can be a top five car. Maybe they could 124 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: have won last year's Indy five hundred. Certainly we can 125 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: debate that and dream of what could have been, but 126 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: the reality is it didn't happen for them, and so 127 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: this is a golden opportunity not only for Aero McLaren, 128 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: but also and maybe more importantly for Hunter Ray. 129 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 4: Now to the higher profile opportunities. 130 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 5: So I'm looking for this tweet. 131 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 4: From jennaf Fryer. Has this been deleted? No, it has not. 132 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 5: I don't think so. So it was rumored. 133 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: I think Nathan Brown wrote this in the Indianapolis Star 134 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 4: that Zach Brown told him there's a driver we're trying 135 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 4: to get for a rookie test and it would be awesome, 136 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: and we all kind of guessed on who that could be, 137 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 4: and it was around that same time I said, I 138 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 4: don't think it's going to be one. I think it's 139 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 4: going to be Ryan Hunter Ray. That makes a lot 140 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 4: more sense to me. There's just a lot of challenges 141 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 4: when you've not won the race to try to get 142 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 4: someone up the speed. Well, Jenna says that that would 143 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 4: have been Valentino Rossi, the legendary Supercross a Moto GP writer, 144 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 4: and there's really no story it's but I also know 145 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 4: that Jenna has really strong sources from Zach Brown, so 146 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 4: I think that's plausible. Because Rossi is driving race cars now, 147 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 4: he's driving GT three cars, He's done a test in 148 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 4: a hypercar for BMW. I think that would have been 149 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 4: a pretty steep learning curve from him, and not sure 150 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 4: whether he could do that or not, but it is 151 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 4: somewhat plausible. One story going around was that there was 152 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 4: really never ever a Superstar driver. Zach was just having 153 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 4: fun with people. I don't think you have fun with 154 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 4: the Indianapolis Star. That would surprise me. I could see 155 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 4: him throwing it out in some other outlet, but that 156 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 4: would surprise me. So I suspect this is what it is, 157 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: that he was applying that path, and if that's true, 158 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 4: I think this is best for the organization. They have 159 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 4: a better chance to win the race now with Ryan 160 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 4: Hunter Ray than one of the greatest Moto GP riders 161 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: of all time. 162 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I know we have seen motorcycle racers excel 163 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: in Indy cars. We have seen that Jeff Ward won 164 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: a race, obviously Joe Leonard. I mean, there have been some, 165 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: but I can't envision a scenario we're Valentino Rossi in 166 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: a firm opportunity to race an Indy car can be 167 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: competitive at Indy. I just can't. 168 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 3: I can't. 169 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: I can't make that connection. I know he's tested a 170 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: race car. I'm sure he can drive a sports car. 171 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: I don't think he can compete at Indy. I just don't. 172 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 4: Sorry, I think it can be really hard. Now, it 173 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 4: may have had some blocks in it, you know, this 174 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: may have been and one of the reasons why he 175 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: wouldn't throw out a name at the time, because we're 176 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 4: going to try to get him a test as quietly 177 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 4: as possible, see how he feels, and then take it 178 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 4: from there and as far as I know, it never 179 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 4: got to that point. So that's what that is. That 180 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 4: would have been massive internationally in America. Probably doesn't matter, 181 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 4: does it. 182 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: No, it matters to some degree, but it doesn't have 183 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: some It doesn't. 184 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 4: Guess an awful lot of our listeners don't know who 185 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 4: that is. 186 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: It's not it's not Alexander Rossi's second cousin. 187 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 4: Exactly does he is? He's like the Michael Schumacher Ayrton 188 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 4: Senna of Moto GP. 189 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: Right, Yes, and he'd make he'd make Elio's English sound 190 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 1: like he was from Central Indiana. But you know, it's 191 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: it's a great idea. I'm sure Zach Brown was approached 192 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: by the idea, tinkered with the idea, maybe even went 193 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: down some channels to see how it would work. But again, 194 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: you want to win the Indy five hundred. He's not 195 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: winning the Indy five hundred, and he's not helping win 196 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: the Indy five hundred. And if if anything, he's probably 197 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: detracting from the Indy five hundred. Ryan Hunterray does not 198 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: detract in any sense. And this idea that he's in 199 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: the fourth car, I'd argue he's in the second car. 200 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: He's in the second car, because in terms of they'll 201 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: have really good people, they'll have and even if they 202 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: don't have their best or their second best group of people, 203 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: just the experience that Ryan brings will help bridge the 204 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: gap where gaps exist. 205 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 4: And I know in past years. I don't know that 206 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 4: I asked about this last year, but I can recall 207 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 4: as recently as twenty three twenty four, they had a 208 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 4: bit of a rotating pit crew and they would have 209 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 4: tryouts throughout the year, and they essentially had four full 210 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 4: time teams for the three cars, and they would rotate 211 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 4: in and out, maybe give someone some time off, but 212 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 4: mostly just you got to earn your spot if you're 213 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 4: changing the outside front tire the outside rear tire from 214 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 4: race to race. So the people that are on the 215 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: fourth team are plenty, plenty goods, So yeah, this is 216 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 4: going to run a quality entry. 217 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: Let me ask you something and I should know this, 218 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: but they've changed it and you've been on pit roads, 219 00:11:55,240 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: so you're a person to ask, how how will race 220 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: car be in terms of pit selection at Indy? 221 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 4: What's based on qualifying? So he could still be could 222 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 4: still be P one, he could still have pit out. 223 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 4: That's the one race that has nothing to do with 224 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 4: the previous race. 225 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that was the case, 226 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: because that is as significant as you know. Is your 227 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: left e or tire changer the best in the business. 228 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: I mean, having position on pit road is a huge 229 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: element to this race. You just for a variety of reasons. 230 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: It takes longer to explain, but if you're in the 231 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: back half of the field, you've got a very difficult 232 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: challenge to win the race over somebody who's in those 233 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: first five pit stops, the pit boxes. 234 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 4: So here's where we stand for still available Indy five 235 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 4: hundred seats, a fourth and ready. That maybe is for 236 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 4: Colton heard it, but I can't swear that it is. 237 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 4: I think there's I think there's every chance that they 238 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 4: have not decided yet that they're holding it open. They 239 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 4: want away things now. If you want to get to Kumasado, 240 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 4: you need to go get him right now. If he 241 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 4: is not already signed with Ray Hall, Leedhiman Lanigan, and 242 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 4: he may already have, but that could be something to pursuing. 243 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 4: But if that is something they want to do, they 244 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 4: have to make a decision immediately because Soto will be 245 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 4: snapped up if they want Connor daily. I think they 246 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 4: have to move quickly as well, because Dryan Rhinebold if 247 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 4: Connor doesn't have a full time seat, which I still 248 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,479 Speaker 4: think he could, And that's going to be another difficult 249 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 4: decision for Connor to make. As these Indy five hundred 250 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 4: seats start to go away, He's going to get Dryan 251 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 4: Reinbold saying hey, are you in or are you out? 252 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 4: And it was last year, right, or maybe it was 253 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 4: two years ago. Has he done full time the last 254 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: two years years? 255 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: Yes? 256 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 4: No, it was this time last year because this year 257 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 4: was his only full time year. Remember he was a 258 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: late fill in in twenty four for Hunkos. So we 259 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 4: had to decide around this time last year, am I 260 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: still trying to get this full time seat with Hunkos 261 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 4: Or am I going to take the sure thing with 262 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 4: Dryer and Ryanbold? And he said, you know, I'm going 263 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: to gamble with myself. I am going to see if 264 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 4: we can make this happen full time. He's probably faced 265 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 4: with that similar situation at this point. Maybe, ANDRETTI, you 266 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 4: would love to get the F two season started, in 267 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 4: the F one season and see how it's going for 268 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 4: Colton and make this decision in late March, but that 269 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 4: leaves you without any of those other options. But I'll 270 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 4: throw this one out there. And this is again where 271 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 4: I've just been trading messages with this person all day. 272 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 4: I ain't asking him about this because he doesn't need 273 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 4: to tell me. Could James hinchclipp be your backup plan? 274 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: Could you be thinking we're probably going to run Colton 275 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 4: hurt up and if we decide that's not best for 276 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 4: him and for Cadillac, F one could always go to 277 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 4: a really popular playan b in James Hinchcliffe. And I 278 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 4: say this not knowing if hinch still wants to do it. 279 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 4: We've not talked about this for over a year, but 280 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 4: I know how race car drivers are, and almost all 281 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 4: of them, if they are presented with an opportunity to 282 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 4: run with a top flight team and are not required 283 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 4: to bring budget and pound on doors and everything else, 284 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 4: they're going to say yes. Second part is, I don't 285 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 4: know if hinch is full time employer would allow it. 286 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 4: I don't know if Fox would say Nope, you have 287 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: signed up for a job, we need you in the 288 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 4: booth and that's that and that would be the end 289 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 4: of it. Or they might say No, this would enhance 290 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 4: the broadcast, This would make you more valuable the rest 291 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 4: of the season, and we would do two in car 292 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 4: hits during the race. And how cool would this be. 293 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 4: So I highly doubt that as possible or likely, but 294 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 4: I'm just throwing that out there. If they didn't feel 295 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: like if they wanted Colton but wanted to leave him out, 296 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 4: and maybe there's someone else I'm not thinking of that 297 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: is high profile that could be available in that circumstance. 298 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like your logic. It seems it seems like 299 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: low percentage of Hinchcliff would be in the car. 300 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 4: I mean, he's I think that's the scenario. Whereas if 301 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 4: they went down the Colton path internally and decided, you 302 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: know what, we need him for some other things. So 303 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 4: we shall see. If it's not Colton, it is an 304 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 4: awfully good opportunity for someone else. And then, if you're 305 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 4: Connor Daily, are you saying I might be able to 306 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 4: get something full time with dale Coin Racing in their 307 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 4: second car, or I could have a legitimate chance to 308 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 4: win the Indianapolis five hundred with Andretti. 309 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: What are you taking Keep in mind that Andretti Global 310 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: finished second on track in the Indy five hundred last year, 311 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: and I was just about to look up because I 312 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: can't remember where was Where was Kyle Kirkwood at the finish? 313 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 4: Was he like six? Feel like he was fifth or sixth? 314 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: He was me? Two? 315 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 4: Me too? 316 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: And then of course they were both penalized, sent to 317 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: the back, and the rest of the documents suggest they 318 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: finished thirty first and thirty second, but they were better 319 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: than that. They were very positioned to win the five hundred. 320 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 4: So it's good seat, it's a great seat. So that's 321 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 4: in TBD. So that's one. The ray Hall car. We 322 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 4: need confirmation. We all suspected SODO would make perfect sense, 323 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 4: but we need confirmation on that second Dryer Rhinebould car. 324 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 4: I assume that they're running one, and the possibilities there. 325 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 4: It starts with Connor Daily. If Prema doesn't field cars, 326 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 4: Callum I Loot is in the mix for all of 327 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 4: these openings that we talk about. Linas Lunquist is in 328 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 4: the mix, maybe Toby Sowy or Uri Vipps. That probably 329 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 4: applies more to the ray Hall situation. Viips was in 330 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 4: their McLaren GT three car testing over the weekend, by 331 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 4: the way, so there's still a bit of a relationship there. 332 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 4: I believe Toby Swary's reserve driver contract ended at the 333 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 4: end of this season or sometime in October, but they 334 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 4: could always renew that and they obviously have a relationship there. 335 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 4: So those are the three guaranteed openings. We'll talk about 336 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 4: Prema in a moment. There's a little bit of information there. 337 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 4: And if Prema doesn't show, then you have thirty two cars. 338 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 4: So then it's going to take aj Foyd Racing Fielding 339 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 4: a third car, maybe in association with Penske, and maybe 340 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 4: that's Miles Row or maybe it's someone I've mentioned. And 341 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 4: here are the other names that I think would all 342 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 4: be in play for the five hundred. If Jacob abel 343 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 4: is not a full time driver, he obviously would have 344 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 4: the budget to do the ND five hundred. And I 345 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 4: think they even maybe still own a chassis that they 346 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 4: could bring to a team if somebody says we're short 347 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: on chassis. Devilin di Francesco, what does he want to 348 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 4: do if we don't think there's a spot for him 349 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 4: at ray Hall, Lethman Lanigan, is he in play for 350 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 4: Coin or Hunkos or anyone else? If not, might he 351 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 4: Combo a sports car program. He was not a Daytona 352 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 4: this weekend, but he's driven GT three cars. He driven 353 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 4: P two cars. Didn't have to be there, but he 354 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 4: could be a one off. James Row is a master 355 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 4: at raising budgets. He is fully partner funded. He's brilliant 356 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 4: with top Con and other partners, and I think he's 357 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 4: got the budget to do the Indy five hundred, along 358 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: with Indy Next and sports cars and other things. So 359 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 4: keep an eye on James Row. He had a solid 360 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 4: test in the Indy Car at the road He did 361 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 4: a nice job for Hunkhos on the road course. Recently 362 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 4: I mentioned Miles Row. Hunter mcilray is always someone still looking. 363 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 4: I've heard Zach Veeach's name come up, and I would 364 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 4: just say this in general regarding Zach or anybody else, 365 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 4: if you have been an IndyCar driver and are still 366 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 4: actively driving, you would still like to do the Indy 367 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 4: five hundred. So that's why I'm including devilind Francesco, Zach Veach, 368 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 4: Benjamin Peterson, who is in a Vassar Sullivan Lexus this weekend. 369 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 4: I've not talked to him to know if that's in play, 370 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 4: but they have an opening because Parker Thompson, who came 371 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 4: up through the road Dandy is getting an even better 372 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 4: opportunity to do LMP two and to do GT threes 373 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 4: in Europe and a lot more. Jerr Hildebrand, I think 374 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 4: would still be open to doing the INNDY five hundred, 375 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 4: and probably you would have some budgets surrounding him. And 376 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 4: if ramagro Jean does not end up in that coin car, 377 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 4: then he could be a one off for the Indy 378 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 4: five hundred. So those are the names that I have 379 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 4: there now. As far as premam motorsport dot com had 380 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 4: some quotes from the head of Premo Racing, Rene Racine today. 381 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 4: Jamie Klein was the writer and says they are evaluating 382 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 4: different solutions to remain on the Indy car grid in 383 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 4: twenty amid speculation regarding its future, and it mentions they've 384 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 4: had some problems with the parent company d C Racing Solutions. 385 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 4: Against that backdrop, Racine said, the team is quote working 386 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 4: hard to ensure that it's spell in any card does 387 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 4: not end up being limited to a single season. Quote. 388 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 5: Honestly, we're looking at and. 389 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 4: Evaluating different solutions. We are working really hard and we 390 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 4: will see soon what the future brings. Push to say 391 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 4: if he felt confident about Prema being back on the 392 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 4: grid next season, Racine replied, we are working on it. 393 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 4: That's all I can say. And he clarified that if 394 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 4: they're there, it's Ie Lood and shortsmen because they're under 395 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 4: multi year contracts, so no comment needed there. That's just 396 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 4: some information beyond just speculation as to where things are at. 397 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 4: We have news on some of what Team Penske is doing, 398 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 4: but not everything. Marshall Prue had a story yesterday on 399 00:21:55,040 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 4: racer dot com. As expected, there are promotions for two 400 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 4: of their top engineers, Will Powers, longtime engineer David Faustino 401 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 4: is going to be the technical director overseeing their indiecar 402 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 4: R and D programs, and Ben Bretzman. His title is 403 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 4: going to be Engineering Manager of Competition. They are not 404 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 4: going to be on a car. The team has not 405 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 4: said who will be on any of the cars, including 406 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 4: Joseph Newgardens. We will learn that later. And there are 407 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 4: some other promotions from within, and I think the story 408 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 4: basically said, of the three people we fired, it's taking 409 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 4: seven to replace them, so we've elevated assistant engineers and 410 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 4: others into those positions that will shore things up. But 411 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 4: now we need lead engineers, so stay tuned on that. 412 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 4: That's still a big part of what's going to happen 413 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 4: next season. All Right, we need to get to Ryan 414 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 4: Hunter Ray. That's coming up in a moment, and then 415 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 4: we'll check back and see what we missed before we 416 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 4: finished track Side ninety three to five, one oh seven 417 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 4: to five. Hi, this is Poto Award and you're listening 418 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 4: to truck Side. Thanks for staying with us as Trackside continues. 419 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 4: Ninety three five and one seven five the fan joining 420 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 4: us now newsmaker from last Thursday confirmed in the fourth 421 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 4: Errol McLaren Indy Chevrolet, the number thirty one, A former winner, 422 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 4: a former champion looking to add to that resume. 423 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 5: It's Ryan Hunter Ray. 424 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 4: Congratulations Ryan, Thanks, Kevin, appreciate it. 425 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, massive opportunity, super it's pumped to be here and great, 426 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 6: great group of individuals involved in this whole thing, and yeah, 427 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 6: we got it done in a short amount of time. 428 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 6: And like you said, I mean the four the fourth card. 429 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 6: Aaron McLaren has been definitely a headliner and hopefully we'll 430 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 6: continue to do that by by winning any five hundred here. 431 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 4: So I'm psych We'll pretend like all these questions are 432 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 4: new to you because you're on interview number forty three 433 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 4: of the tour since it started in the middle of 434 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 4: last week. And I'm curious about the timeline because when 435 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 4: we've been talking and I just love to throw things 436 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 4: against the wall, and I could have just simply texted 437 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 4: you and asked you and you probably would have told me, 438 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 4: but I didn't. And I've been saying, this just makes sense. 439 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 4: They've gone with the Star route and NASCAR driver things 440 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 4: like that, but I kind of felt like they needed 441 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 4: to go find the best driver available and that was you. 442 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 4: When did this all come together. 443 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 3: In pieces kind of? 444 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 6: But then all of a sudden, a massive just just. 445 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 3: Rushed at the end. 446 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 6: I mean it came together, you know, it kind of 447 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 6: really organically started. After the race, after coming so close 448 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 6: with Ryan Rainbold to winning, I was just dejected, exhausted 449 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 6: mentally and physically. After the race, I was in the 450 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 6: parking lot of the bus lot kind of moped my 451 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 6: way back to the motorhome, and. 452 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: TK and Dario we're out there, you know. 453 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 6: Talking, and they're, you know, just one leg up on 454 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 6: the golf car tire just one of those kind of conversations, 455 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 6: and Dario and TK were like because they you know, 456 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 6: they've both had long careers as well, Tony's career very 457 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 6: similar to mine, and he's like, ry, what do we 458 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 6: how really are like what are you going to do? 459 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 6: Like what do you really need to do? 460 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: This? 461 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 6: You know this, that and the other DA, And I'm like, man, 462 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 6: it just means the world to me, means everything to me, 463 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 6: and and and I. It was obvious to me again 464 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 6: because I know it's all I think about, but it 465 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 6: was obvious to me even after the fact how important 466 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 6: it was to me, because of how much of it 467 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 6: impacted me. You know, I didn't sleep for days afterwards, 468 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 6: very little, I should say, I haven't watched one replay 469 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 6: the race since because yeah, it's it's a it's a 470 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 6: fresh wound. But that's when it started, and just nothing 471 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 6: happened from there. We talked, I think maybe late in 472 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 6: the season, before the end of the season, before Nashville 473 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 6: kind of and said, hey, what's your deal? 474 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: What are you doing? 475 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 6: You know, I told him my status Da da da da, 476 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden, a few weeks later 477 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 6: or two weeks later something like that, it was just like, Hey, 478 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 6: this is happening, Let's get this done. And then Tony 479 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 6: and I just worked it out on the phone, just 480 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 6: between him and I because you know, we have a 481 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 6: massive amount of trust and we just worked we worked 482 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 6: everything out on the phone and got it done in 483 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 6: a few days. And you know, I want to express 484 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 6: my gratitude as well, you know, to Zach, Tony, Kevin, 485 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 6: everybody at the team. Everybody kind of just pushed in 486 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 6: the right direction, like full throttle, and it was it 487 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 6: was unique in the case that I don't think I've 488 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 6: ever had a deal come together that quick. 489 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 4: Ryan Hunnarray is joining us, would you have considered a 490 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 4: full time opportunity? Is that still something you would do 491 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 4: in the right circle stance? And granted those are few 492 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 4: and far between with someone that doesn't bring budget with him, 493 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 4: but is that was that even on the table at 494 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 4: any time? Or is it No, I'm going to just 495 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 4: look for the right Indy five hundred program at this point. 496 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: That's a good question. 497 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 6: I mean, I've just been focused on, you know, just 498 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 6: doing the Indy five hundred kind of like the model 499 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 6: I've been doing with Ryan Reinbold, right, so that that 500 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 6: could kind of fit, just fit into this fourth car. 501 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: It was never really it was relative, never. 502 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 6: Discussed as a full time deal. Never say no, it 503 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 6: would have to be you know, stars aligning everything perfect, 504 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 6: perfect for I think for me to consider the full 505 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 6: time deal on it. 506 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 3: But this just this just fits really well. 507 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 6: You know, I've I've worked with Tony as well in 508 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 6: a massive and a really big organization, right and over 509 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 6: my years at Indie and work at different teams. This 510 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 6: is my tenth IndyCar team, believe it or not, that 511 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 6: I've worked with and you know, I can apply that, 512 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 6: I can apply that here and I have a lot 513 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 6: of experience with working with big groups and different personalities 514 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 6: and that's a big deal. 515 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 3: You know, an. 516 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 6: IndyCar in competition competitive sports, especially motor racing's it is 517 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 6: a team sport and it matters, right that atmosphere and 518 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 6: the chemistry that you have working within that environment, not. 519 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 3: Only on the car that you're on, but the entire. 520 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 6: Outfit as a whole, and how that works and how 521 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 6: efficiently it works over a weekend or a week. 522 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: Preparing for Indy. 523 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 6: So you know, I look forward to hopefully having an 524 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 6: impact in that regard as well. 525 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 4: Do you like working with young drivers. I have to 526 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 4: believe that's one of the incentives. 527 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 6: Is. 528 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 4: Yes, they've got Potto who's nearly almost won the thing 529 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 4: a few times, but loom Guard is relatively young and 530 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 4: Noland is still very young. 531 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it depends, right. 532 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 6: It's not a scenario where I come in and say, hey, guys, 533 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 6: this is how you have to. 534 00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 3: Drive turn two. 535 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 6: It's more of a big picture mentality working together as 536 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 6: a team. When you have strength and numbers, it can 537 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 6: really work well if you use it effectively and efficiently. 538 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 3: Right if you if you if you. 539 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 6: Can develop a setup and you you kind of divvy 540 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 6: up you know who does what on what day, and 541 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 6: then you start combining those changes and a ba ing 542 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 6: in them as we call amongst different different guys. Everybody's 543 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 6: going to have their bit of an offset on setup. 544 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 6: But if you can and we've done it successfully at 545 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 6: Andretti before on occasion wasn't every year. 546 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 3: But if you can. 547 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 6: Effectively and efficiently pull that that maximum potential out of 548 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 6: everybody and actually work together, you have an advantage strengthen numbers. 549 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 3: Especially on the other side of it. 550 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 6: You got a lot of guys that you know come 551 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 6: from Europe, and their mentality immediately is my teammate is 552 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 6: my number one enemy, and I am. That's what I'm 553 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 6: focused on, is just making sure that he gets as 554 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 6: little information as possible. If I make a change on 555 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 6: track and it's better, I'm going to do whatever I 556 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 6: can to give him misinformation on it. That is a 557 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 6: short sighted approach. I've seen it happen many times. I've 558 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 6: watched it work. I've watched it. I should say I've 559 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 6: watched it not work. 560 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 3: At Indy. 561 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 6: You want to be in a position where you're fighting 562 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 6: your teammates at the end, because that means you guys 563 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 6: have all worked together to give yourselves the best package 564 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 6: possible to be in that shootout at the end. So 565 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 6: I don't necessarily would say that it's working with young 566 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 6: drivers that I like. I really like working with drivers 567 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 6: that have an open mind towards being better as a 568 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 6: cohesive unity. 569 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 4: And I would just say, what you can bring to 570 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 4: them is one more car that's going to be sorted, 571 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 4: one more knowledgeable input and gathering data. So that's just 572 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,719 Speaker 4: executive to the entire program. Right then a raise joining us. 573 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 4: I'll ask you this because I get to ask this 574 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 4: a lot on the account of people like you, why 575 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 4: aren't they doing more sports car racing? And my answer is, 576 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 4: it's not like it used to be. Early in your career, 577 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 4: it seemed that most of the time when in Indy 578 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 4: car driver raised his hand, they could find to see, 579 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 4: certainly in the endurance races and maybe full time when 580 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 4: they transitioned out of full time IndyCar racing. How hard 581 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 4: is it to find a sports car seat? 582 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 3: Now, you're a great point, Kavin. 583 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 6: I mean, it's it is such a unique time with 584 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 6: that because for years, I think I did, I did 585 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 6: thirteen or fourteen Daytona twenty fours, twelve hours of cebring 586 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 6: one that one. Overall, you know, these teams would just 587 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 6: pluck IndyCar drivers. You had probably eight or nine sitting 588 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 6: on the grid in the top category being that let's 589 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 6: call it prototype or Daytona Prototype. 590 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 3: Or whatever you want, DPI, LMDh. 591 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 6: I don't know how many renderings have gone through of that, 592 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 6: but it shifted with this new the hypercar, since it 593 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 6: went to the HyperCard deal. A lot of these manufacturers 594 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 6: that came in they have their own you know, they 595 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 6: have their own network of drivers that they bring up 596 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 6: their own farm system. So to speak, and they bring 597 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 6: them up either from the GT category or for whatever categories. 598 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 3: They had in Europe. 599 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 6: And now if you look at it, like in the 600 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 6: Hypercar Closs, if you just aside from the accurate entry 601 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 6: that has Polo Dixon. 602 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 3: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't. I don't. 603 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 3: Maybe Colton in the BMW, I don't think there's. 604 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 4: Colton's in a Cadillac. He's in a Wayne Taylor Cadillac. 605 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 4: All okay, all right? Is running with Shank again? 606 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? I thought that was. 607 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 6: I mean, they've been they've been together for so long. Yes, 608 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 6: back together, but it is not the same as it 609 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 6: used to be in that regard. You know, I had 610 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 6: a really good home. I had my time at Wayne Taylor. 611 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 6: I had a really good home at Mazda. And when Mazda, 612 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 6: you know, for so many years Maza was terrible and 613 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 6: they did a lot of work, spent a lot of money, 614 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 6: and then we started really firing and we were doing 615 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 6: well when the races. That's how we won the twelve 616 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 6: hours of Sebring overall. And finally, you know, they did 617 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 6: it and it was just like wow, we outspent ourselves 618 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 6: here and left and then I went to Ganassi with 619 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 6: the Cadillac and had a good home there and then 620 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 6: you know, they split the team in two. Cadillac did 621 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 6: GM and sent one to WEK and the other one 622 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 6: stayed home and Dixon had my seat and that obviously, 623 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 6: you know, and as expected. So yeah, it's you know, 624 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 6: it's just been one thing or another, and now the 625 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 6: category has changed. 626 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 3: There's there's not many indie car drivers in it. 627 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 6: I see McLaughlin and new Gardner in what the Tower, 628 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 6: pietzfew maybe again. 629 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 4: You know, they're they're testing the Porschapinskey Prototype, but they're 630 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 4: not confirmed for the race, and I honestly think they're 631 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 4: going to be asked by Porsche because of what you said. 632 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 4: Porsche has their people, They're going to have to prove themselves. 633 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 4: Roger and Jonathan Dogood don't just get to say there 634 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 4: are drivers they're in. They're going to have to be 635 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 4: better than the other people that have been in the 636 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 4: Porsche program for a long time and are on their spot. 637 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 3: That was the same thing with Rayhull and BMW. 638 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 6: And in that case, BMW wasn't even trying out any 639 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 6: car drivers. They were just they had their network of 640 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 6: guys and that's you know, they're under contract. They came 641 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 6: through their system. The guys same thing. Porsche, like you mentioned, 642 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 6: Porsche is one of them. That's that's done that for years. 643 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 6: So yeah, limited opportunities there for sure. And to be 644 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 6: honest with you, I really haven't been after the Ganassi 645 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 6: Cadillac deal. I really haven't been shopping in Well, you're 646 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 6: coaching football. 647 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 4: We got bigger and better things to do, right. 648 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 6: Football, and you know when in you know pee wee 649 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 6: Football Championships. 650 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 3: Priority. 651 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 4: That's right. I'm glad you got your priority straight. I 652 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 4: wasn't sure if I wanted to bring this up, but 653 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 4: I'm going to last year's five hundred because it didn't 654 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 4: get the coverage that it should have. 655 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 5: It's one of those things. 656 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 4: There's so many things going on and I think it 657 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 4: slipped under the radar. But you could have should have 658 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 4: won the race. We're not going to focus on that part, 659 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 4: but we're going to focus on the success story that 660 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 4: it was your pit stop practice car that you almost 661 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 4: won the ND five hundred with. This would have been 662 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,919 Speaker 4: a bigger story maybe I think it would have been, 663 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 4: or a more unlikely story than the Allens are nineteen 664 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 4: eighty seven show car that we always talk about so much. Well, 665 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 4: that show car wasn't brought out on Saturday morning. That 666 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 4: show car was there for the entire month being prepared. 667 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 4: That team replaced a burned down car, and you were, 668 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 4: I think going to be ahead. You're going in your 669 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 4: last pit stop leading and you're going to be ahead 670 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 4: of Ericsson and Polo and the two ray Hauls that 671 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 4: were right in front of them that were a lap down. 672 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 4: So you don't have to talk about the heartbreak again, 673 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 4: but let's go up to that point of did you 674 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 4: really think there was any kind of a shot to 675 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 4: be competitive in that race? 676 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 6: You know, I've been I've been in so many unique 677 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 6: scenarios and racing over the years. I've learned to you know, 678 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 6: a lot of is mental right. And if you get 679 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 6: into the car with an ounce Let's say it's been 680 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 6: dry all weekend, all of a sudden it starts raining 681 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 6: right before the race, you haven't had a lap in 682 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 6: the ring. You can either go into that with the 683 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 6: right mentality you better get it right real quick, or 684 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 6: you can go into it with some doubts, any bit 685 00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 6: of negativity. 686 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 3: Oh my last race. 687 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 6: Maybe I locked the tire and got into the barrier. 688 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 6: I better not do that again. You start focusing on that. 689 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 6: Just like as they say, you know, you go where 690 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 6: your eyes are right. If the car starts to turn 691 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 6: on you and you're looking at the wall, you're gonna 692 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 6: end up at the wall. But I just knew that 693 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,959 Speaker 6: I had to focus on, you know, going one hundred 694 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 6: and twenty percent. I knew it was going to be 695 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 6: something where I had to adapt to the car a 696 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 6: little bit as it went, and we might have to 697 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 6: add some front wing, take some out, whatever it was. 698 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 6: But I was talking to the guys when I went 699 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 6: over at Dryan Rabal, but when I went over to 700 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 6: go pick up my seat, even this morning when I 701 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 6: dropped off a helmet that unless you're embedded in the situation, 702 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 6: nobody really has a real feel for what actually went 703 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 6: down there. 704 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 3: It was absolutely I agree with you. 705 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 6: I think it would have been one of the most 706 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 6: remarkable stories, and I think it deserves even like a 707 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 6: documentary on what happened. 708 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 3: Because it burned down. We didn't have a backup car. 709 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 3: There was no backup car. 710 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 6: They were lowering it out of the truck in the 711 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 6: in the in the lot, and I was going buy 712 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 6: my golf cart and I jokingly said to them as 713 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,240 Speaker 6: it was coming down, like my god, that's. 714 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 3: Not our race car, and they laughed. 715 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 6: They laughed and they said, I think it is, and 716 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 6: I thought they were joking, and then I see it, 717 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 6: you know, a half hour later, being rolled into the garage. 718 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,479 Speaker 3: It had an electric motor in it still for the you. 719 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 6: Know, for being in the in the in the just 720 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 6: like these guys do here at Aaron McLaren doing the 721 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 6: pitstop practice in the shop. 722 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 3: So it was wild. 723 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,919 Speaker 6: I went through one corner basically in an install check, 724 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 6: and then I went into the biggest race in the world, 725 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 6: having no idea what the balance was, any idea that 726 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 6: the underwing, the you know, the tunnel in the car 727 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 6: was efficient and how that would he react in traffic. 728 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 6: And it was wild. Honestly, it was completely wild, and 729 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 6: it did go unto the radar. That's unfortunate, because I 730 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 6: talked about this earlier on the press conference, is that 731 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 6: the hardest thing for spectators to follow Indy car, to 732 00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 6: follow Indy the Indy five hundred, to follow even I 733 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 6: think sometimes on a street circuit is pit strategies. When 734 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 6: you have an early yellow and Indy five hundred, and 735 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 6: then you have it followed by another yellow within it 736 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 6: with that didn't completely go the full stint on tires. 737 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 3: Right, Let's say it's twenty laps. 738 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 6: You're going to have a split field at that point 739 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 6: on strategies, and then after that you're going to have 740 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 6: guys picking to short stint or long stint stretch it, 741 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 6: and it's going to continue to kind of migrate from there. 742 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 6: And at that time, I'm not blaming it on you 743 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 6: or Fox or anything else, but because you guys can't 744 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 6: possibly be watching every different scenario in every different strategy. 745 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 3: But they were filming. 746 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 6: They had a shot a plow and I said, and 747 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 6: here's the effective leader. Meanwhile, you look on the leaderboard 748 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 6: over on the top and there's you know, P one 749 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 6: is a car twenty three hundred. Ay, we were actually 750 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 6: the effective leader at that point. It's just that it 751 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 6: was so hard to follow the strategy. We were just 752 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 6: on the other side of the racetrack. We were running 753 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 6: with cars that had been running in the top ten, 754 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 6: top seven, that were on the same strategy as me, 755 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 6: like Connor Daily and stuff that we just weren't with 756 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 6: the polo ericson group, right, So we're rotating like that, 757 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 6: and like you said, we would have come out right 758 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 6: in front of the two lap cars and then Polo 759 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 6: and Ericson would have been behind them, So I would 760 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 6: have even had a little bit of a buffer to 761 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 6: work with and try and use those guys as you know, 762 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 6: as a wedge between us, kind of as a block. 763 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 3: But yeah, it could have been, should have been, would 764 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 3: have been. 765 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 6: That's why INDI's cruel and it's the most rewarding place 766 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 6: on Earth at the same time. 767 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 3: But. 768 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 6: The story that that would have been unbelievable. I mean, 769 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 6: it doesn't happen. It doesn't without anything happening, without any issue. 770 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 6: I mean I was in the garage at the middle 771 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 6: of the night doing seat fittings. These guys did not 772 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 6: sleep for forty eight hours straight building the car, so 773 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:51,839 Speaker 6: you would think mistakes would happen. 774 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 3: Then, right, they're all tired. Mistakes happen. It's a new car. 775 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 6: This doesn't fit the same Da da da unbelievable five 776 00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 6: hundred mile race and we were one of the quicker 777 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 6: cars track. 778 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, second fastest lap I think. And you mentioned didn't 779 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 4: sleep after you didn't see any name, but Friday night 780 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 4: before I saw you on Saturday evening and you say, 781 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 4: I looked like two hours, So. 782 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 3: It was a zombie. I was a zombie going. 783 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 4: That was remarkable, and that's why we're back again, and 784 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 4: we'll go for one more time in twenty six. I 785 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 4: hope you still have time to join us in the 786 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 4: Fox Indie Next booth. 787 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 6: Well, I hope so too. I had a really good 788 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 6: time with you and Jack. I learned a lot. I'd 789 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 6: love to do some stuff on the Indy Car side. 790 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 6: I know that's less flexible you guys, don't. You know 791 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 6: on the Fox deal. You guys don't just plug in 792 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 6: folks there. But it was a tremendous opportunity with the 793 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 6: Indian Next deal because I had I had never kind 794 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 6: of done done the in the booth, you know, live 795 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 6: action throwing it back and forth. I'd always done kind 796 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 6: of you know the pit lane thing or whatever where 797 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 6: you can cueue up your thoughts right down. But I 798 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 6: learned a lot from you and from Jack on it, 799 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 6: and it was a great opportunity, and I think I've 800 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 6: got I've got a lot of experience to fall back 801 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,240 Speaker 6: on that can come naturally in the form of information 802 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 6: on a broadcast and it's a matter of applying that 803 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 6: in a smooth in a smooth manner like, Yeah, how 804 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 6: you do reading those intros and stuff is just wild 805 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 6: to me, but we get there. 806 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 4: Well, you help me get Jack to do some of 807 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 4: those because he's still reluctant, so that's going to be 808 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 4: out for twenty six. 809 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 6: Absolutely make him do the baseball with the super complicated 810 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 6: last names. 811 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 3: That's the hardest part. 812 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 4: Well, next summer, we'll hopefully introduce you as two time 813 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 4: Indianapolis five hundred winner when you join us in the broadcast, 814 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 4: and then you can ask for a raise in that circumstance. Congrats, Ryan, 815 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 4: this is super cool. Looking forward to seeing you more 816 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 4: and Papaya in twenty six and we'll see it at 817 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 4: racetrack soon. 818 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 3: All right, thanks my friend, I appreciate it. 819 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 4: I have a good one, Ryan Hunter. Ray will be 820 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 4: in the number thirty one is original champ Car IndyCar 821 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 4: number back in the day for Aerol McLaren Indy in 822 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 4: twenty twenty six for the Indianapolis five hundred. We'll see 823 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 4: what we missed and more coming up next. 824 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 6: On track side, Hi, this is Felix trosen Quist and 825 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 6: you're listening to track side. 826 00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 5: Okay, what we missed. 827 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 4: I was going to into all the IndyCar drivers there 828 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 4: were a Daytona and what their prospects are for sports cars. 829 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 4: Ran out of time, but I will notice and mentioned 830 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 4: that Nolan Siegel was back in a sports car in. 831 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 5: A P two car, Louis Foster in a P two car. 832 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 4: We had wondered if Graham ray Hall might be in 833 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 4: the ray Hall Letterman Lanigan McLaren and one report said 834 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 4: that was a plan and was being explored. They may 835 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 4: have found some other options, one being Max Esterson, who 836 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 4: was really quick. He is an American kid who's been 837 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 4: racing in Europe, and you're a hips who I talked about. 838 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 4: Callum Ilot was in a Porsche GT three car, So 839 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 4: we'll talk more about that as we move on. Also, 840 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 4: the NASCAR start times came out this week, and that 841 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 4: tells us a couple of things. CODA on March first 842 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 4: is three point thirty, so I think that tells us 843 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 4: Saint Pete is going to be twelve twelve thirty. And 844 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 4: the NASCAR Cup race on Fox is two pm the 845 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 4: same day as Long Beach, so I would think I 846 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 4: think that means that's a good lead in for Long Beach, 847 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 4: probably at five pm easternichhe two pm West Coast time. 848 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 4: So there you go, all right. We'll see you again 849 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 4: next Tuesday night at seven on track Side