1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Live from vall Haartminer and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Tony Katz today. We are in our 4 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: three here we are leading up to the Thanksgiving break. 5 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: I'm here Davis filling in form my good friend Tony. 6 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 2: Go buy my book. Just do it right now. Christmas 7 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: is coming up. You need a good gift idea. You've 8 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: run through all the good ones. Try and lame one 9 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: like a book drawing lines why conservatives must be get 10 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: a battle fiercely in the arena of ideas. That's my book. 11 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: Definitely go find that wherever you find books. We're coming up. 12 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: I'm going to go shopping after this. Get my I 13 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: don't really cook. I don't really do the cooking. I'm 14 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: not a great cooking. My mom's a chef, and so 15 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: when I was growing up, you know, when she got 16 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: home from work, she didn't want to teach anybody how 17 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: to cook. She's done with that. We were talking in 18 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: the break about the kid the advice we were reading 19 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: before the break about what does this lady do with 20 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: their braddy toddler nephew who's coming over? And I said, 21 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: what she needs to do is make her sister and 22 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: brother in law responsible for the kid. Because I know 23 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: what's happening here. I've seen it over and over again. 24 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: You have too these parents, these gen zers and these 25 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: younger millennials, they don't know what to do with their children. 26 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: They look at parenting as being an entertainment director. They 27 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: don't know what to do with their kids, so they 28 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: spend every moment of their parenting time trying to keep 29 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: their child entertained. And so when they get into a 30 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: city and that's stressful, by the way, you should not 31 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: be doing that. You to be teaching your kid how 32 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: to entertain themselves and soothe themselves. So you have a 33 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: bunch of parents who are stressed, and when they get 34 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 2: into a situation where there's other people who could possibly 35 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 2: keep their kid alive for a few minutes, they take 36 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: advantage of it, you know, maybe to an abusive point. 37 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: So I can imagine that's what's happening here. These parents 38 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: are just as frustrated with their toddler as you are, 39 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 2: and they're taking advantage of having what they probably consider well, 40 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: these are loving family members. They just think it's cute. 41 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: They're not like us. We have to deal with this 42 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: every day, so we deserve this time off, and what 43 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: you have to do is make them. We need to 44 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: bring back shame. This is what I'm trying to say. 45 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: We need to bring back shame to our society because 46 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: shame is a barrier, it's a buffer. It helps people 47 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: learn how to act in a high trust society. High 48 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: trust society, I think, is another phrase we're going to 49 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: be using a lot in the next year, right that 50 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 2: right next to affordability. But I was watching Dagan What's 51 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: her face? Dagan on Fox Business? She is the UH 52 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: one of the analysts, and she was talking about how 53 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: when she flies. They were talking about being nice and 54 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: looking nice, way you travel, and she says, when she flies, 55 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: she calls out people who are rude on the plane. 56 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: So if a man doesn't take the bag down for 57 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: a lady who's struggling and he's standing right there, she'll 58 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: say something. And she said, I think it's important to 59 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: make people feel embarrassed about their poor behavior. That's and 60 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: we have gone. We have just come through this era 61 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: where we're supposed to be tolerant and accept and accepting 62 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: of everything. So when someone's kid acts up in the store, 63 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: I just went through this. The other day, I made 64 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: a public comment about a kid who acted up in 65 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: the store and then got a thousand responses of, well, 66 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: maybe he was autostic, or maybe you know, we're just 67 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: excusing everything. He has high anxiety, or I have social anxiety. 68 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: We just excuse all this behavior. And some of it 69 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: might be excusable for very valid reasons, but I think 70 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: very little of it is. And in fact, if your 71 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: child cannot behave themselves in public, then maybe you don't 72 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: go out in public. You know, even if your child's autistic, 73 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: maybe you just don't do that. Maybe you don't take 74 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: him out to dinner at a nice restaurant if you 75 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: cannot depend on his behavior. But most of the time 76 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: I think it's just parents do not want to control 77 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: the behavior. So we've come to this era where we 78 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: have told people you're fine just the way you are. 79 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: We shouldn't shame anybody for anything, because that's what prevents 80 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: them from getting help. And you know what, as we 81 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: did it with the body positivity movement too, didn't we 82 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: And you know what, as it turns out, it doesn't help. 83 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: It makes things worse. It gives people an excuse to 84 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: be worse. Well, no, one said anything to me about 85 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: playing my video loudly in public, So I guess it's okay. 86 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 2: No one cares or everyone's scared of me. So maybe 87 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 2: it's time we start saying something right making people feel embarrassed. 88 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: You should be embarrassed about acting that way in public, 89 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 2: and your sister and brother in law should be embarrassed 90 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: about bringing their toddler to a family gathering and letting 91 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: him run wild. And so while it might be a 92 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: bit of a pain for you, you're going to have 93 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: to treat your brother in law and sister the way 94 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: they should be treating the toddler. You're going to have 95 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: to train them, and they'll learn real quick, right, they'll 96 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: learn right quick. Every time the toddler comes in and 97 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: creates havoc for you, you lead him back to mom. Oh, 98 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: little Bobby, little Braiden, little Braiden got into the flower, 99 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: or little Braiden is under my feet and I can't work, 100 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: or little Braiden kicked someone, or little Braiden did this. 101 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: You make them deal with it. After a while, it's 102 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: going to be so inconvenient that you have to keep 103 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: finding them and keep interrupting them. They're going to find 104 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: something better to do with little Braiden so he doesn't 105 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: interrupt them. You got to make it their problem. I 106 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: don't think it's uh, I don't. I don't think it's 107 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: that rude. I do think it would be rude to 108 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: disinvite your sister. She's the golden child, got it. There's 109 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 2: probably other things going on there that there are very annoying. 110 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: But I don't think you have to disinvite them. I 111 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: just think you need to make them responsible for the 112 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: creature that they've created. We need to do that. We 113 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 2: need to bring more of that back. We were talking about, Yes, 114 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: bring back spankings, Bring back spankings. I don't even know 115 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: why how we got to this place where now it's 116 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: odd to spank your child, Bring back spankings. I saw 117 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: a mom the other day. Her kid kicked her in Costco. 118 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 2: He kicked her and she got on He was about five, 119 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: and she got on her knees and she was like, 120 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: I told Mommy said, don't kick right, because there's consequences. 121 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: I didn't kick her because he's autistic. He might be autistic, 122 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: but that's not why he kicked her. He kicked her 123 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: because he wanted ice cream and she didn't want to 124 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: buy ice cream, so he kicked her and he said, 125 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: I want ice cream. There's no excuse for that. I 126 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: don't care if your kid's autistic. Autistic doesn't mean rude. 127 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 2: And so she got on her knees and she started 128 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: to explaining. She's explaining for a while. You know it's 129 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: wrong to hurt people, and would you like it if 130 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: someone kicked you. It went on for a minute. I 131 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: lurked because I knew I was going to talk about her, 132 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: so I lurked, and it went on for a couple minutes. Now, 133 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: I think that's cruel, y'all. I think that's the cruel thing. 134 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: She's extending that child's discomfort. He did something wrong, he's 135 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: angry about not getting the thing he wants, and now 136 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: he is sitting in this moment of consequence. Want and done, Honey, 137 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: get it over with. If you spent that kid, you've 138 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: delivered the consequence, and now you're both done with it 139 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: and you can move on with your day. Instead, you're 140 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: going to make him pay for this all day, all 141 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: day long. You're going to lecture him here. You're going 142 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: to lecture him when you get in the car, and 143 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: later on when he asks for dessert, you're going to 144 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: remind him about what he did in the store, and 145 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: you're going to lecture him again. It's cruel, No wonder 146 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: all of our kids are so anxious. Just let them 147 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: experience a consequence and get it over with and release them, 148 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: release them from the consequences of their actions, and let 149 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: them move on with that lesson. It's more cruel to 150 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: prolong it. It is more cruel to sit there and 151 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: lecture your child for ten minutes. It's confusing to them 152 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: as well, because they haven't felt any consequences. The only 153 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: thing they know is that you are disappointed, and it's lasting, 154 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: so they have to sit in that feeling and then 155 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: it stamps on their hearts. Spanking is not cruel, it's 156 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: a mercy. It's a mercy. If you've run across the 157 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 2: street and you get hit by a car, you're dead 158 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: or maid. But if you run across the street and 159 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: I yell at you and punish you for disobeying me 160 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: about the rules about running across the street, by spanking you, 161 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: you are getting a physical consequence that delivers physical pain 162 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: that should be reminiscent of the pain that can come 163 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 2: if you disobey me on this but doesn't have the 164 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: same irreversible consequences. You are allowing your child to experience 165 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: important physical consequences early so they don't experience irreversible ones later. 166 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: Spay your darn kids. Okay, you got too many bad 167 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: kids out there, and you got too many lazy parents 168 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: out there who feel like it's their duty to be 169 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: entertainment directors instead of actually raising human beings who become 170 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: productive members of not just your family, but of your 171 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: community and society. We have removed parenting from the parents. 172 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: I just saw I just saw TikTok. I didn't clip it, 173 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: but I saw a TikTok video of somebody saying, ladies, 174 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: how much do you pay for childcare? It's one lady said, 175 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: I pay five thousand dollars a month for childcare. Someone 176 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: she pays five thousand dollars a month for someone else 177 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 2: to raise her child. She's outsourcing parenting. So then, of course, 178 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: when she gets to be a parent, she thinks she's 179 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: supposed to be filling there that time with lessons, with life, lessons, 180 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: with studies, with you know, extracurricular activities, with you know more, 181 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: studying with entertainment stuff. You can't just be a parent 182 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: because you farmed out so much of your parenting to 183 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: other people. And I'm I'm not judging you on whether 184 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: or not you have to work, but there's this idea 185 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: that we're all supposed to share the burden of child rearing, 186 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: and no one's looking at why it costs that much. 187 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: It costs that much because you're not actually supposed to 188 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: be farming it out to other people to do. And 189 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 2: your child's priceless, by the way, why would you want 190 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: childcare to be cheap? Why do you want it to 191 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: be cheap. Your child is literally the most priceless thing 192 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: you have in your life, So I think you should 193 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 2: be worried if it's cheap, it should cost a lot. 194 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: It should be priceless' is why you should probably try 195 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: to do it yourself. And I think five thousand dollars 196 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: a month could go a long way to letting a 197 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: mom stay at home with their kids. How did I 198 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: get on that all that to say that all of 199 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: these things work in tandem. They they work together. Okay, 200 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: let's go to another break and we'll come back with more. 201 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not sure what we'll talk about. 202 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: If we want to break down this. I don't know 203 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: how interested you are in the KOM dropping the KOM indictments. 204 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: I have some thoughts on MTG as well. Why don't 205 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: I do that? I'll tee up MTG and I'm going 206 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: to tell you what's going on with Marjorie Taylor and 207 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 2: how you can look at the situation. Don't go anywhere. 208 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: I'm Cura Davis filling it for Tony Kats and this 209 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: is Tony Kats Today. Welcome back everybody to Tony Kats Today, 210 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: winding into this Thanksgiving holiday. I'm here Davis filling it 211 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: for Tony CAATs. Go find me on x at Kura Davis. 212 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 2: What else do I have going on that you should 213 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: go look at? I don't know. I think you should 214 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: just oh yeah, I know it's the holidays and you 215 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: might want some lighthearted listening or viewing. You should go 216 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: look up my Christmas cheesy Christmas movie podcast. It's called 217 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 2: Journey to Christmas Land. My bestie Amelia Hamilton and I 218 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 2: do it together. We love cheesy, homemark Christmas movies and 219 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: we love the silliness of it. We love the formulaic 220 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: aspect to it. We love all of it. It's we 221 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: poke fun at it, but it's all good fun. And 222 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 2: so even if you don't watch the movies, I think 223 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: you'll like it. You'll just have fun hearing us talk 224 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: about how they set up these plots and all of 225 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: the writing, all all of this stuff. But it's called 226 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: Journey to Christmas Land. You can find that on substack 227 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: and YouTube. Journey to Christmas Land with Kira and Amelia. 228 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: Again lighthearted listening. Absolutely zero politics, although we did do 229 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: a Christmas movie a couple of weeks ago where I 230 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: was pretty sure that the main character was connected to 231 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: the Pritzker family. Somehow I just knew it is something 232 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: about his countenance. What's the trashiest thing someone has ever 233 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 2: done at your Thanksgiving? What's the trashiest thing someone has 234 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: ever done at your thingsgiving? A table? I went and 235 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: looked on Reddit to see what some people wrote, and 236 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: here are a couple of things that people said. One 237 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: woman said, the woman my cousin had just married stole 238 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: a Costco sides box of individually wrapped cheese it packages 239 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 2: from our garage. I just happened to notice they were 240 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: gone when putting food in the fridge. Asked, I asked, 241 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: about it publicly, and she locked up, started stuff and 242 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: went to get them out of her car. She returned 243 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: with the excuse, I thought these were mine. I have 244 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: a box just like them. At all, She actually took 245 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: the box and put them in her car. God bless her. Okay, 246 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. The charitable view was that she just 247 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: was hungry and needed food. The uncharitable view is that 248 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: she was going to go put them in her snackstand, 249 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: her street side snackstand. One person said, we were hosting 250 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: a young lady my wife worked with, as well as 251 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 2: her boyfriend. How the discussion got to how her and 252 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: her boyfriend once got super trash on Robotussin and yeah, 253 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: that was a really weird time. Everyone just got really 254 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: quiet as we were trying to decide how to fill 255 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: that one in and where to go with it. For 256 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: some reason, they got really quiet after that. Oh, some 257 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: of you will like this one. My uncle shot the 258 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: TV because of how the lions were playing. Shout out 259 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: the fingers, Maloya out there in Detroit lions land. He's 260 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions, the bane of his existence, his joy, 261 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: and his pain. One person says, my uncle brought a 262 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: woman other than his wife. She was. She was crazy, 263 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: a practicing witch who would divine things about us on 264 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: the spot, and ironically accused my other uncle of having 265 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: an affair. She got drunk and groped me in the 266 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: coke closet, saying, if only I were young again, I 267 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: was sixty. 268 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: No. 269 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: Wow, I don't know why you would want to give 270 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: this up. Why doesn't everyone think this is the amazing 271 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: part of Thanksgiving. That's what Thanksgiving is good for. If 272 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: you have an uncomfortable relationship with your family, maybe reframe it. 273 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 2: Maybe instead of looking at it like, oh, I'm gonna 274 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: go and I'm going to feel bad and everyone's gonna 275 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: make me feel bad, just determine that nothing they say 276 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: matters and just collect the stories. I know it's a 277 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: weird time coming up on the holiday season. Not all 278 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: of us have direct family. I'm estranged from my family, 279 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: not not by my choice, but my mother actually estranged herself, 280 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: went no contact with our family because of Trump. She 281 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: didn't do that during the first Trump administration, but this 282 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: time around it was too much for her. She's never 283 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: really been that thrilled with what I do for a living. 284 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: You can imagine she's a liberal hippie. She's a godless hippie, 285 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: and so she has stranged herself from us. Now Thanksgiving 286 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: not so bad because she's in Canada that we have 287 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving times at different times anyway, but it's a holiday 288 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: season and this will be my first Christmas without her. 289 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: This will be my first Christmas without a phone call, 290 00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: without sending gifts, without getting gifts. And so there's a 291 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: lot of people out there like that, and I think 292 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 2: I kind of want to write about this, but for 293 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: a lot of you, it's disappointing. I feel like, in 294 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: a way, it's maybe even worse to be a parent 295 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: and have your kids do that to you. So if 296 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 2: you're out there and you are a strange from family 297 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: and you're feeling like this is a very sad time, 298 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: let me just give you some encouragement, encourage you to 299 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: try to find something to be grateful for anyway, and 300 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: because there is science for that. But also, we don't 301 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: have as as maybe cold as it sounds, we don't 302 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: celebrate Thanksgiving for your family. It is a holiday where 303 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: we have family, and we have made it a family holiday, 304 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: but we don't have Thanksgiving for the family. Thanksgiving is 305 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: actually a time for corporate celebration and corporate gap, corporate 306 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: recognition of gratitude of what we have to be grateful 307 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: for in America. So as sad as it might make 308 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 2: you feel that you can't be with your direct family, 309 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: your sons and daughters, your parents, I'm very sorry for that, 310 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: and I hope that that can change. But the purpose 311 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 2: of Thanksgiving is to find gratitude. So go out there 312 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 2: and find people to corporately give thanks with. And don't 313 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: think that because your family isn't sitting by your side, 314 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: that you just have to sit at home alone. Here 315 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: in my house tomorrow, where the house is open and 316 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: people are going to be coming through. Some people will stop, 317 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: some people will stay and eat. Anybody can come and go. 318 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: It's for everybody. But the point is that you celebrate 319 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 2: corporately because the task we have ahead of us, my friends, 320 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: got to get serious. The task we have ahead of 321 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: us is daunting and historical, and it is the stuff 322 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 2: that legends are made of, and so we it is 323 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 2: a task for a grateful people. You understand what I mean. 324 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 2: It's going to be a task for a grateful people 325 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: who understand what they are fighting for, and no less 326 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 2: all right, let's take a break and when we come back, 327 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: we will come into our final half hour leading into 328 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Turkey Day. Don't go anywhere. I'm Kia Davis filling 329 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: up for Tony Kats and you are listening to Tony 330 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: Katz today. Welcome back everybody to Tony Katz Today. I'm 331 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: your guests Hos Kira Davis. Tony is out. You can 332 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: find me on ex at Kira Davis Stranger Things. Today 333 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: we've been playing East Stranger Things bumper music. I don't 334 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 2: know if you're a fan. I'm a big fan. At 335 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: our house, we are Stranger Things super fans. My daughter 336 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: has been counting down the days. I actually had made 337 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: some plans for this evening, but I've just realized I 338 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 2: have to cancel them because my daughter is making us 339 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: all watch it. So but that's another great thing about 340 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: the holidays, right the family all comes together and you know, 341 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 2: you do stuff you like. Maybe you go to the 342 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: Sea of the Movies. We always like to see a 343 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: movie on Christmas Day. To that, Hollywood hasn't been giving 344 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 2: us a lot to enjoy lately, but hopefully that'll change. 345 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: In the Golden era. You know, President Trump has commissioned 346 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: a rush hour four. We're on our way. Excuse me. 347 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: I want to talk about Margie Taylor Green before we 348 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: I think a lot of you have questions why is 349 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: she doing this? What's going on with her? And I 350 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: think I understand her and I want to share it 351 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 2: with you, But first I want to read you this 352 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 2: little exchange she had. She as you know, she has 353 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: resigned from Congress. She has had a very public split 354 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 2: with President Trump. Mike Cernovich, who's a big influencer on 355 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 2: X tweeted out, you need to serve your full term, 356 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: and this is how she responded. She says, Oh, I 357 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 2: haven't suffered enough for you while you post all day 358 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: behind a screen. Do I have to stay until I'm 359 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: assassinated like our friend Charlie Kirk? Will that be good 360 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 2: enough for you? Crap posting on the internet all day 361 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: isn't fighting? Get off your ass and run for Congress. 362 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: I fought harder than anyone in the real arena and 363 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: not social media. Put down your little pebbles and put 364 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: your money where your mouth is. And then she goes 365 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: on to say typical of Republican men telling a woman 366 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: to shut up and get back in the kitchen and 367 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: fix me something to eat fu and the sweetest most 368 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 2: southern drawl I can enunciate. I have been trying to 369 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 2: tell you, to tell all you men. She has that 370 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 2: in scare quotes, that our kitchen pantry is empty with 371 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: spider webs, our house has been ransacked, the windows and 372 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 2: doors are broken and busted, and the greedy rich maasters 373 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: have twisted your minds into a six state that you 374 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 2: all continue in the two party toxic political system that 375 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 2: acts like college football playoffs, yet is burying you and 376 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 2: your children and their children and their children in a 377 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: pine box in a shallow, brave get off your ass 378 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 2: and fix your own damn food, and clean up the 379 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: kitchen when you're done. That's MTG. All right, what's going 380 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: on here? Whose side should you be on? I'm gonna 381 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: say this. I think she's right and wrong. She's right 382 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: and wrong. First of all, I don't think she's wrong. 383 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: Cernovich is from my neck of the woods. We actually 384 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: live very close to each other here in southern California. 385 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: She's not wrong about that. She did run for Congress right, 386 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: and she won, and she was a very important warrior 387 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: during the Dark Ages, during the Dark Brandon era. She 388 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: was a very important warrior when there were no Moga 389 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: voices that were being heard, and she was a fighter. 390 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: And I think that's fair. Cernovich is an influencer. Now, 391 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 2: I don't think it's fair to say influencers don't do anything. 392 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 2: That's That's something I've had to come to terms with 393 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: as an independent opinion journal right watching the influencers leapfrog me, 394 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: you know, and get all the great gigs and do 395 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: all this stuff, I've had to realize, Well, they are influencing, 396 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: They're doing something. They're worth the money because they get 397 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: the word out in a way that someone like an 398 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: MTG can't. So it's not fair to say he's not 399 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: doing anything. But she is right, she's out there putting 400 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 2: her money where her mouth is, putting words to action. 401 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: She has done that. Does she need to stay there 402 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 2: till she gets assassinated like Charlie Kirk? Yeah, it's really 403 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: is that. What you're is Marjorie Taylor Green so effective 404 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 2: in the political space, she's got to hit out on her. 405 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know about that. I think 406 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 2: that's a little dramatic. But here's what I think is 407 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: happening with MTG. She has not changed. This is who 408 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 2: she has always been. And by the way, I don't 409 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: think that she is an ideological trader. I think she 410 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 2: still believes all the things that she always believed. I 411 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: do think she's maga. I do think she's America first. 412 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 2: I do think that she is disturbed by what she 413 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: sees in Congress and she thinks that a lot of 414 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: people there have sold out the American people. I think 415 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 2: all of that is true. And when here's the thing 416 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: I want to explain to you about Trump. Trump isn't 417 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: just an effective leader because he can get stuff done. 418 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: He's an effective leader because of his very unique personality. 419 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: And it's sort of a once in a lifetime thing. 420 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: It's the if factor that you can't manufacture, you just 421 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 2: have it. And Trump's personality causes the personality causes. Let 422 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: me put this in a better way. Trump's personality makes 423 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: people more of who they are. It makes people more 424 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: of who they really are. So that's why when you 425 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 2: see someone next to him who had a diplomatic personality 426 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: before Trump got into office, and then they turn into 427 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: a crazy person when it gets there, it's because that's 428 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: who they always were. He just his personality just makes 429 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 2: them be more of who they are. So Democrats seems 430 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: like all of a sudden they're descending into lunacy. No, 431 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: they've always been lunatics. Trump makes them be more of 432 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: who they really are, and that's what he's doing to MTG. 433 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 2: She's always been this person. But when Trump was just 434 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: lurking on the edges of politics, when he was pushed 435 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 2: out to the fringes, exiled, MTG had a purpose. She 436 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: brought the MAGA message to Congress. She stood up for 437 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 2: the MAGA voice when nobody else could. And because Trump 438 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 2: was right, she was right right. She aligned herself with 439 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 2: Trump and the Trump movement and that made her right. 440 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: She's still that same person, but now she's still an opportunist. 441 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 2: Back in the dark Brandon era, the opportunity was MAGA. 442 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 2: She believed it, but she saw an opportunity and becoming 443 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: the mouthpiece for that movement. The opportunity was MAGA. Now 444 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 2: she is seeing the opportunity somewhere else. I don't know 445 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 2: exactly what that opportunity is. She's either seeing it through 446 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 2: other prospects to make money elsewhere there might be money 447 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 2: floating around. Catter is throwing money around like crazy in 448 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 2: the influencer space and the political space. It might be 449 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: something to do with that. She might be just tired 450 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 2: of the job. I really don't know, But whatever it is, 451 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: she's sensing an opportunity to pounce on this Epsteine thing. 452 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: And now she's wrong because now it pulls her out 453 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 2: of alignment with Trump. And she made the mistake of 454 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: thinking that she was the movement right, She's made the 455 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 2: mistake of thinking that she's the draw and she's not. 456 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: It's Trump. It's Trump. So when she was adjacent to Trump, 457 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: she had all the fans she could handle. Now she 458 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 2: doesn't want to be in line with Trump. For better 459 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 2: or for worse. You got to go out there on 460 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: your own. She's taking this opportunity because she thinks this 461 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 2: is a winning play. She's an opportunist. So the way 462 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: to gauge where she's at is what she does next. 463 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: She's leaving Congress, a which a rich woman. By the way, 464 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: I think she had tens of thousands in her bank account. 465 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 2: She's leaving with tens of millions. I think she's upwards 466 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 2: about seventy million. I think I read she's leaving a 467 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 2: wealthy woman. How do you go to Congress as a 468 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 2: poor woman and leave as a wealthy woman. You know, 469 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: you should be suspicious of that. Everyone should be suspicious 470 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 2: of it. But that's what's happening with Marjorie Taylor Green. Okay, 471 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 2: she's not a liar. I don't think she's a liar. 472 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 2: I don't think she's a grifter. I think she's an opportunist. 473 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 2: I think she's a conservative and she's an opportunist. And 474 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: I do believe her when she says that things are 475 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 2: very wrong in Congress. Believe that. But that response to 476 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 2: Cernovich telling her to get back in Congress and do 477 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: the job she was elected to do. That's a podcast 478 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 2: or response. That is a media response. That's a Candice 479 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 2: Owens response. That's a response designed for clicks and traffic. 480 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 2: So my guess is that she's going into media. That's 481 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: where I think she's going. And I'm gonna bet she's 482 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 2: heading over to Tucker's network. I'm gonna bet that's where 483 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 2: she's heading. And if not, she might end up in 484 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 2: the mainstream over an MSNBC or CNN, which I feel 485 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: like would be a little less lucrative and probably better 486 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: off going over there with talker he's got He's got 487 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: a lot over there. But I think we'll understand her 488 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: more when we see her next moves. But absolutely Cernovich 489 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: is right to tell her to finish her job. It's 490 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 2: the job you were elected to do. We are in 491 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: that this is the most precarious time in his way, 492 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: in our nation's history, so we need we don't need 493 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: anyone rocking any boats where it's unnecessary. Her leaving now 494 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 2: is like, that's not a favor to the American people. 495 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying. She's trying to spin 496 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: it as I'm sticking up for my principles. I'm sticking 497 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: up for the American people. You're sticking into them in 498 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: Congress every day, and I don't like what I'm seeing. 499 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 2: I'm leaving. Fine, serve out your term and then leave. 500 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: That's how you do that, because the American people elected 501 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: you to be there to do a job, particularly your constituents. MTG. 502 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: They're conservatives, and they elected you to make sure there 503 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 2: was a conservative in that seat. So stay there and 504 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,959 Speaker 2: do your job. Cernovich was right, But MTG. I'm I 505 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: think her use she's outlived her usefulness. So Fine be gone. 506 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: But Trump won't forget, and neither will we. And I 507 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: think she's going to pay the price for this. I do. 508 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: I think every everybody overestimates the power of Trump's personality. 509 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: Everybody does. And that's why the Republicans are They're still 510 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: not in a position to win next year because they 511 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: are still out there trying to distance themselves socially from Trump. 512 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: And he's the only person winning. He's the only thing 513 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 2: that's winning, so we should not be distancing ourselves from it. 514 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: He is. She picked the wrong horse. She picked the 515 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: wrong horse. Trump is eleventy billion two zero when it 516 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: comes to hits on his reputation, when it comes to 517 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: people taking the bet against him, eleveny billion to zero. 518 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: I don't think MPTG is gonna fare any better, but 519 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: we'll see. All right, let's take one more break and 520 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: when we come back, we will wrap it up and 521 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: head you guys into Turkey day. Feeling good, feeling confident, 522 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: feeling informed. I'm Kia Davis, feeling it for Tony Katz 523 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: and you're listening to Tony Katz Today. Welcome back to 524 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: every to Tony Katz Today. Best theme song in the 525 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 2: biz in my opinion, Stranger Things best theme song. They 526 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: get the eighties, right. I think this is a great 527 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: If you haven't watched the show, I don't find it 528 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: scary some people. I like horror stuff, so some people 529 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,959 Speaker 2: find it scary. So if you can do it, I 530 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: suggest watching the show if you're a gen exer, because 531 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: they get the eighties exactly right. I mean it's so good. 532 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: They are just so spot on with everything. They leave 533 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: no detail too chance, just really good. Let's see. What 534 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 2: was I going to do here? I want to Oh, 535 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 2: I know, I want to play this before we leave. 536 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: I wanted to play this clip from CNN Casey Hunt 537 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: talking to Representative Ruben Diego about this video. The video, well, 538 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: I'm calling it the seditious video of the six congress 539 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: people critters encouraging our military to disobey orders. So you 540 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: guys know the one now, But I thought this was 541 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 2: really interesting. Case Hunt was talking to Reuben Diego asking 542 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: him why he wasn't in the video, and they kind 543 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 2: of have a little laugh about it, and he says, well, 544 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: I was in the first one, but I didn't have 545 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: time to do this one. Play this clip. Did you 546 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 2: consider were why were you not part of the video? 547 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? Actually so I was part of the first video. 548 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 3: The second video is by the time the script got 549 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 3: to me, and it was in the middle of a 550 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 3: lot was going on, I just didn't have time to 551 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 3: actually record. If I'm one hundred percent of onlinement with 552 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 3: them all together, this stuff happened, you know, it just happened, 553 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 3: not to end up being a recording. There's really no 554 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 3: other three D three D chest to this. 555 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 2: The logistics of human life. 556 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: Yep. 557 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, So what message would you send? 558 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: My question is what was in the first video? I 559 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 2: didn't know there was a first video? He said, I 560 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: recorded for the first video, so clearly they re record 561 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: or they re recorded it. So the first video they 562 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 2: didn't want for some reason, and they rewrote the script 563 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 2: because he says, I got the script for the second video, 564 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 2: but I just didn't have time to record it. So 565 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 2: the second the script for the second video wasn't the 566 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 2: same as the script for the first video, right, because 567 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: they obviously had to re record it, redo it, and 568 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 2: so they sent them a new one. What was the 569 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: first video, y'all? What was in the first video? I 570 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: think we need to know what that first video was. 571 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 2: If they felt they had to re record it was 572 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 2: it because it was too much or not enough. I 573 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 2: really think it was probably because it was too much, 574 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 2: and probably they ran it through the lawyers. What they 575 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: did was on the line. What they did was on 576 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 2: the bubble. So I think that everyone's just letting that 577 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: comment slip by, and I think we need to ask 578 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 2: ourselves what was it supposed to be? It is sedition 579 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 2: and this is war. But I don't want to end 580 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 2: on that note because it's Thanksgiving, so that the note 581 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: I want to end on is that if you are 582 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 2: blessed enough to have a family to be with this Thanksgiving, 583 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: then go be with them, and when the uncomfortable topics 584 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: come up, have fun with it, or just don't talk 585 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 2: about it and say I don't want to talk about 586 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 2: this for Thanksgiving, you know, but do something to protect 587 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 2: your peace. But be with the people you love because ultimately, 588 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 2: and think about what they tried to do to us 589 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 2: over the last five years. Think about all those Thingsgivings 590 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 2: we had where we had to endure those ridiculous news 591 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: reports and blog posts about and lectures from our representatives 592 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 2: about staying home, don't eat, make your family wear masks, 593 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 2: have a one hour Thanksgiving. Think about how they tried 594 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 2: to keep us apart, and how they tried to force 595 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: the loneliness epidemic on us, and think about all of 596 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 2: the other fractures that loneliness epidemic created in our society. 597 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 2: You going to celebrate Thanksgiving with your family, with your friends, 598 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 2: You engaging in that act of community. That's the ultimate 599 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 2: counterculture act. That's the act of rebellion. That's how we 600 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 2: win the war. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. I'm Cure David. This 601 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 2: has been my pleasure to be with you. I hope 602 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 2: you enjoy your Turkey Day tomorrow. We're so grateful for 603 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 2: this country. Thank you God for America. God bless America, 604 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 2: God bless y'all out there. I'll catch you on the 605 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 2: flip side.