1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Hey, good morning everyone, and walking into another chilly edition 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: of the Fan Morning Show. I don't know if it's 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: gonna get up up twenty degrees for the next several days, 4 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: but either way, we'll get your rent at a rock 5 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: and keep you as warm in the car as we 6 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: possibly can. James Boyd out again this morning. He's been 7 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: sick and Kevin. I don't know if you guys were 8 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: able to avoid it in your household, but that thing 9 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: went through our household twice over the between the week 10 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: before Christmas and right after the first of the New year. 11 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: It just kept going around. I know it put me 12 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: down and out for about three days. My wife was 13 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: out for about four days, got both of my sons, 14 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: and it came back around and got us again. I 15 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on out there, but it's nasty. 16 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you've heard it my voice. I'm kind 17 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: of how you doing hanging on by. 18 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: I thought ready were just hired district, but okay. 19 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: Ready for Friday at ten oh one, we got six 20 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: hours of radio to do, my mans, let's do it. 21 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: You consumer great to see you, brother. 22 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: I am so happy to be back here with you guys. 23 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 3: Lots to talk about you know, football season ends and 24 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: it doesn't stop Pacers with a big win last night. 25 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: Man, that was pretty cool. 26 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: Wow, that was I'm glad I didn't give up on 27 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: that one with about seven minutes to go when they 28 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: were down fourteen. 29 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 4: Because all of a sudden it just turned on a diamond. 30 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: And we were talking about it right before the show 31 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: started and Cave, I know you were watching the game 32 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: too when it was one oh five ninety nine and 33 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: they hit those back to back threes from I believe 34 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: it was Nie Smith first and then Huff second, and 35 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's tied, and you're like, okay, 36 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: they might pull this out. Kevin Bowen, this got really interesting. 37 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 4: All of a sudden, I woke up a little bit. 38 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: I was getting ready to go to sleep. I woke 39 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: up again. 40 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: By the way, I know, the calendar's turned. Mark Dyson 41 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: still gets all that PTO. 42 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 1: Mark Mark Dyton has some way gained the system where 43 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: he gets what do we have on general Let's say 44 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: Last Name Radio one fifty two times five is what 45 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: Urban and Dyton. 46 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: I think until the week, I already know about another 47 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: week in March that I will be here. So that's 48 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: that's been already signed, sealed, delivered. 49 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: So I figure we have a base two hundred and 50 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: ten workdays out of the year, right, fifty two times? 51 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: Well, I guess more than that time's five. 52 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: You would know more than me, Jeff, I don't know 53 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: my math is off this morning, but it's well over 54 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty close to two hundred and seventy days. 55 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: And then you take off, and I guess I'm struggling 56 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: because you take off fourth of. 57 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 4: July, you take off a couple of Mark. 58 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: Dyton has like one hundred and seven PTO days. I 59 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: don't know how it works. I know he's been here 60 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: a long time. It shows up in the system. I 61 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: know we record it in the system. I know I 62 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: turn it in. I know I sign off on it. 63 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: I know that my superior sign off on it. Mark 64 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: Dyton somehow is gained the system. Kevin, he's got one 65 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: hundred and seven days a PTO paid time off. 66 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: Well, you're the one that signs off on it, right, 67 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: But it just keeps popping up. 68 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, what reminds me of remember in 69 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: the office, Milton just kept showing up to work. Mark 70 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: just it just keeps happening, like there's a glitch in 71 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: the system somewhere. 72 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: And I don't know. 73 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: I've got other things to do, I guess than to 74 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: run down whether that glitch is real or not. 75 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: How you feeling about it? You get you starting to 76 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 4: get like mind, yeah, jealous of it? 77 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely. 78 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 4: Kevin raced back from from Notre Dame. 79 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: Obviously I listened to the show yesterday. It's fun to 80 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 3: hear you talk about that. He double overtime stays and 81 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: then he's right here ready to go at seven am. 82 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: But Mark gets so many PTO. 83 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: Do we call him tomorrow morning at seven oh two 84 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: just to check on him and say we're all worried 85 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: about it. 86 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: Do you think your guys is calling? 87 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: What do you think that I'm gonna guess he's up 88 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: early right with probably wakes up. Yeah, three girls, Man, 89 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: are you seriously gonna be okay? 90 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 4: Today? 91 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 5: Caleb and I to hold it down, Like I said, 92 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 5: I'm fighting. 93 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: I know, man, we may have to have we have 94 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: to have somebody else come in tomorrow if you're not 95 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: feeling well because this I don't want to get it 96 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: for the third time. Also, like, I'm very concerned about you, 97 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: but I also, you know we're sitting five feet apart 98 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: right now. 99 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 4: So anyway back. 100 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: To the Pacers, though, at what point did you think 101 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: was it about the time they tied it up with 102 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: those back to back threes or when did you think, man, 103 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: they might pull this off. 104 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, when Huff hit the one 105 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: you mentioned, I thought that was a hell of play 106 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: by Nie Smith to tap it back out there. But 107 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: you know, then you had separate plays there. Honestly, when 108 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: Vucevich banked in the three, you're kind of thinking of yourself, 109 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: all boys, this is going to be one of those 110 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: nights there. But you know what, credit to Aaron NEI Smith. 111 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: I thought he made some huge plays there. He obviously 112 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: had the layup where you know, he kind of kept 113 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 2: going to you maybe didn't look like it was smooth, 114 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: smooth sailing. And then I thought he made a great 115 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: play on Kobe White, you know, you know White, I 116 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 2: thought I got a step on Johnny Furfey there late 117 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: and made a big play. But you know, that's one 118 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: of the more spirited comebacks of the season. And you know, 119 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: we can get into the tank impact because I know 120 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: there's certainly a section of the audience that probably saw 121 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: the Vusovic three go in and thought, all right, entertaining loss, 122 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: here we go, sign me up for that. But then 123 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: obviously you got people that still care about I like 124 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: winning wins and losses there, So yeah, I get you 125 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: like winning, but you know, if you like winning, winning 126 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: a Jada Bants would probably look pretty good. 127 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 6: At some point. 128 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: Well, they are still twelve and thirty six, and you know, 129 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: it's hard. They're in such a big hole. It's hard 130 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: for me to imagine that they get completely. 131 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 4: Out of it. 132 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: Although there are some bad teams in the NBA this year, 133 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: when you start talking even in the Eastern Conference, Brooklyn, 134 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: it looks like Milwaukee is into the total tank method. 135 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: Right now. Here's the other question for Milwaukee guys. As 136 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: we start to look through this, does Giannis ever play 137 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: for the Bucks again? Tight deadline is coming up? 138 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 2: He's out right, I think that's a huge domino here 139 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: in the next week. You know exactly what it league wide? 140 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: You know, it's almost like, wait, is that the first 141 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: domino that needs to fall before the trade deadline? Plays 142 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: off of that? But you know, if you again, if 143 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: you look at the standings, you know, right now, I 144 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: think going into last night. I want to say there 145 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: are five teams of ten or eleven wins, so you 146 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: know every win for the Pacers and you do shift. 147 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: Now again, I think there's a misconception about you know, 148 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: what the odds are. We can get into that, but 149 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: as far as last night is concerned, I mean, again, 150 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: you know, excellent there down the stretch and making the comeback. 151 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 152 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: I thought Ben Dick Mathern had a really nice third 153 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 2: quarter to kind of keep you in it there. They 154 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 2: changed the starting lineup for the third quarter, and so 155 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: you know, when you look at how this team is played, 156 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: you know, Furfy's getting big minutes late. Jarris Walker, I thought, 157 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 2: you know, scoring wise had a nice night. You know, 158 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 2: those are some you know, positives that you point towards 159 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: because now we're starting to get into again, trade deadlines 160 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: in a week, all Star Brakes coming up here in 161 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: a few weeks. You know, at some point, probably in March, 162 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to make a decision on playing some 163 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: of these guys as many minutes as you're playing them, 164 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: like like you did last night. Came up. 165 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: I noticed you're rocking the lebron James Cleveland Cavaliers Jersey today. 166 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: We know you're big Ohio sports fan and that's where 167 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: you grew up, and that's fantastic. He was back at 168 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: Cleveland last night. Lebron got a little teary, teary eyed. 169 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: I was looking some highlights. He got a little teared 170 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: up last night. 171 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: I was actually at a family thing this weekend in Northeast, 172 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 3: Ohio and was talking to my cousin who we talked 173 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 3: Calves basketball all the time, and I. 174 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: Told him I'm pretty convinced. 175 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,559 Speaker 3: I'm I'm convinced that that his farewell tour is gonna 176 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: be next year in Cleveland. But there was also part 177 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: of me last night that thought, like the emotions might 178 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: have been, Hey, this might be my last time playing 179 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: in this building because I might be retiring after this year. 180 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: So I enjoyed it. 181 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: I always enjoy when he comes back, brings back a 182 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: lot of memories. A lot of the b writers always 183 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: liked to go back with the old nostalgia of those 184 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: Calves teams when Lebron comes back into town. So it's 185 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: fun to read those things. But yeah, it was a 186 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: fun game. Calves are starting to play better, so yeah 187 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: they need to. 188 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: What has happened to your caves is they're on the 189 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: verge of being one of the best teams in the 190 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference. Last year, Pacers just swipped their souls out, 191 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: I think is what happened. 192 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 4: I think those close wins just dangling. 193 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: Out there in the playoffs and at the last second 194 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: Kevin just snatching them right back away. That had to 195 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: steal their soul last year, don't you think. 196 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: You know, Caleb, I thought that was the emotion on 197 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: Lebron last night. I don't know if I fully fully 198 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: thought he was going to go there. I say that 199 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: in all seriousness. I'm not laughing at the matter there. Yeah, 200 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: I'm probably a little bit more sentimental towards Lebron than 201 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: maybe most would be in this market. You know, for me, 202 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: he's kind of the athlete I grew up with, you know. 203 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,119 Speaker 2: You know, yes, you could make the case obviously Jordan 204 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: and Peyton, and but like when you think about I mean, 205 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: I remember watching Saint Vincent Saint Mary's games. Yeah, like 206 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: on a being like, oh my gosh, who is this guy? 207 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: So you know that aspect to it of like wait, 208 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: is this really it it for him? 209 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 6: You know? 210 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: I am kind of curious about that aspect to it. 211 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: But I'm the last great, great comeback for the Pacers 212 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: last night. And you know, again, I fully understand there 213 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: are people that are very torn right now on how 214 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 2: they view the Pacers in this season. But I think 215 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: once you see and once you hear, you know what, 216 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: maybe the field lottery odds look like, you're not as 217 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: living and dying with every single one. 218 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: It's not like, and you pointed out yesterday, there's not 219 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: as much difference percentage wise between the fourth pick and the. 220 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 2: Fifth maybe seventy thirty. I think we can go over it. 221 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, there's not that big of that. But certainly 222 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: that I was needed because you know, I was slipping 223 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: back and forth between that and Butler Saint John's and 224 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: that got ugly quick for the Bulldogs last night in 225 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden. 226 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: That one got away in a big hurry. It never 227 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: came back. But there was basketball for us to watch 228 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: and be interested in last night, and even for you, Okay, 229 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: how many how many Calves. 230 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 4: Games do you think you get to to watch? 231 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: By the way, over the course of the year. 232 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 3: I did buy League Pass this year because I am 233 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: out of Marcus, so I try to stay loyal. But yeah, 234 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: one of one of the things too. It's kind of 235 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 3: funny because you know, even keeping on the Pacer game 236 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 3: last night, like I think last year, going back to 237 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 3: that Cavs Pacers series, I was so blown away by 238 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: Aaron E. Smith in that series and because I was like, 239 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, like this guy has gotten so much better. 240 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 3: And then you see last night comes up with some 241 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: big plays down the stretch like he is to me 242 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 3: when you when you think about where he was on 243 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 3: the Celtics and what he's done with the Pacers, I 244 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: think he is he has always been a player that 245 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 3: I really respect him, and Nemhard really a player that 246 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: play that I really respect and enjoy watching. 247 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 2: Well again last night, you know when he hits that layup, 248 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: you know that is a driving play, which I would 249 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: say that's probably one of his bigger, you know, weaknesses 250 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: or question marks as an offense guy. We know he 251 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: can certainly hit open shots, and obviously defensively he does 252 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: a ton for you there. So I thought that's what 253 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: kind of stood out to me about last night of 254 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: you know, Siakam you know, made some plays, but you 255 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: know it was Nemhard late shot clock, it was Nie Smith, 256 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: you know, making a driving play there. Yeah, obviously you 257 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: bring up that huff three from earlier there Siakam kind 258 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: of tips it back out there, so you know, several 259 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: winning plays and great theater. I mean, if you were 260 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: watching that last night or you're in the building, and 261 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: that was a good entertaining, back and forth game, minimal 262 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: timeouts in the final minute or two, so pretty exciting basketball. 263 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna get all of it in great 264 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: depth throughout the day. We'll get back into the Hall 265 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: of Fame and remind you that there are a couple 266 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: of cults and cults related players in area. You know, 267 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: at least one other Cincinnati Bengal that have a chance 268 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: to make it to the Hall of Fame from that 269 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: finalist list. We'll remind you about that as well. We'll 270 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: take some of your comments and phone calls along the way. 271 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: We gets ready for another big weekend of college basketball, 272 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: and of course the Pacers continue as well. And we 273 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: don't have football this weekend. I'm I'm still grappling with. 274 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 4: That Caleb Pro Bowl or now, okay, we don't have 275 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 4: football this weekend. 276 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: We'll continue to moment ninety three five one oh seven 277 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: five The Fan happy Thursday morning, along with the Man 278 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: Kevin Bow and I'm Jeffrickcord, Caleb zuver in for the 279 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: ever vacationing Mark Dydon this morning. We appreciate that we 280 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: will start with the Indiana Pacers, who rallied from fourteen 281 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: down on the fourth quarter last night to edge their 282 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: way past the Chicago Bulls one thirteen to one ten. Caleb, 283 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm as disappointed as anything that I don't get to 284 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: talk about the Bulls in bad fashion with Mark Dyton 285 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: this morning, although he seems to have just abandoned them 286 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: completely lately. 287 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 4: Maybe why he took PTO. 288 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: Maybe Pascal Siaka once again leading the way for the 289 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: Pacers with twenty points, Jaris Walker at sixteen. But Kevin really, 290 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: boy Nie Smith really got it done in the closing 291 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: minutes for the Pacers last night, both offensively and just 292 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: some other ways too. 293 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the huge help there on the Kobe White 294 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 2: driving attempt there to really win the win the game. 295 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: And boy, if the Pacers has played the Bulls every night, 296 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: they'd be in pretty good shape, right, three to twelve 297 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: wins this year against the Chicago Bulls. Got this year. 298 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: Jaris Walker double figures with as I mentioned, sixteen points. 299 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: He's out eight of his last ten games in double figures. 300 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: The scoring is starting to come along. Other aspects of 301 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: his game need to develop a little bit, but he's 302 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: playing better for the patients, so you got to love that. Meanwhile, 303 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: college basketball, Butler Bulldogs, they'd been on a roll, but man, 304 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: that came to an end last night. They were blitzed 305 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: at Madison Square Garden by Saint John's Rick Patino was 306 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: honored for getting his nine hundredth career victory and he 307 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: did it in Xavier the other night against his son 308 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: Richard Patino, so he had a big honor there and 309 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: then the Redman just went on. I think it was 310 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: ninety two to seventy. They were up by twenty nine 311 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: at one point in that game last night. The Bulldogs 312 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: will try to put it all behind them Saturday, when 313 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: they were turned Hinkle Fieldhouse. They will take on Georgetown 314 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: at that point in time. Also coming up this weekend 315 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: college basketball, I you try and build on that win 316 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: over Purdue. They will play Saturday on the road at UCLA. 317 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: Purdue also trying to get back on track w on 318 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: the road to play at Maryland. That one will be 319 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon at one and not to forget Kevin Bowen 320 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: Notre Dame plays at Syracuse Saturday. That'll be a six 321 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: pm game. They are on the ever popular CW. Caleb, 322 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: nothing says quality more than the c W. 323 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: I think Kevin and I might be the only people 324 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: that watch ACC hoops on the CW because a lot 325 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 3: of there's some DO games on there sometime sometimes not 326 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 3: be watching them. So you and me, Kevin ACC fanatics over, should. 327 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: We make the trip up one Tuesday night of the combine? Right, 328 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: I'm already thinking today, so I think we've got a 329 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 2: show trip up there. 330 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: What do you guys think? 331 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 2: Well, hey, I'll borrow Greg Grenshaw's car. I had to 332 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: jump a bar again this morning, so we eight rakes. 333 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: Did you get battery situation figured out yesterday? 334 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: No? 335 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry man. 336 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 4: Here's the other thing though. 337 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this yesterday, but when 338 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: Rick Carlyle and Kevin Bowen were talking about maybe going 339 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: up to see the next Virginia Notre Dame game when 340 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: that comes around next year, and they were, you know, 341 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: Kevin was trying to persuade him. Everything I happened to 342 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: look at my social media feed and Greg Rakestraw's hey, like, hey, wait, 343 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: what happened? I thought I thought we were boys? What's 344 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: going on here? Have I been abandoned for the prettier 345 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: girl here? 346 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 6: I may let the urge pass on that. 347 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: That was awesome. I may let the urge pass. And 348 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: then later though, he goes, it's not a no. I 349 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: don't know if you have that part of the audio, Kleb, 350 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: but there was. He definitely he responded in a similar 351 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: fashion to how Coeds probably would have responded to me 352 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: back in the day about me asking them out on 353 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: a nice date to the Steak and Shake on seventeenth 354 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: and Walnut chamb It. 355 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: Was the equivalent of him handing Kevin a fake phone number, 356 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: is what it was last night. 357 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: The audio was going to back me up on this 358 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: if we get the full answer, maybe coming up on 359 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: the other side. Yeah, it was definitely not a no there, 360 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: and I would, by the way, but I would never 361 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: do that to Rake. Rake really tweeted that he was. 362 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: Talking about yeah being left, you know, the dance by. 363 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 4: The prettier girl. 364 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: I did not see that tweet at all, but I 365 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: will make sure that I call him a sap all right. 366 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 6: That's right here, but I wouldn't say it's a definite. 367 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: No, look at that. 368 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 4: Well, there you go, so that you definite, are you guys? 369 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: Besties? Now the door is open, right, it is open. 370 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: It is open. 371 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: That's pretty good stuff right there that you can listen 372 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: to a Rick Carlisle with Kevin and James every week 373 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: right here at ninety three five and one on seven 374 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: to five of the fans. So we will investigate that 375 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: a little bit further as the years passed, the urge 376 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: may pass, we'll see what happens there. So that's what's 377 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: happened in college basketball. In all the nonsense for Bill 378 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: Belichick being left off first ballot in the Hall of Fame. 379 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: That was the most talked about topic in all of 380 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: sports yesterday. Do want to remind people that we will 381 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: find out about some of these Hall of Fame finalists. Reggie, Wayne, 382 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: Adam Minitarian, Frank Gore are still three of the fifteen 383 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: awaiting their fate. 384 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 4: Kevin Bowen that's more interesting to us. 385 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, And honestly, Vanitari is the only one I'm really 386 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: optimistic about because correct me if I'm wrong. You have 387 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: the list of this year's class. 388 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 4: Jeff, I do have it. 389 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: Drew Brees and Larry Fitzgerald are locks, right, yep. I 390 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: mean they are first ballot as first ballot come, so 391 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: there's two and again with the rule change here in 392 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: the last year, so I think it's difficult to get 393 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: a third. I thought Vnetaria should have been first ballot 394 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: last year. 395 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: Well, we talked about him for the last three four 396 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: years of his career as the goat, and nobody was 397 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: arguing back then, Willie Anderson Bengals, Drew Brees, Jarry Evans 398 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: of the New Orleans Saints. You talked about Fitzgerald, Frank Gore, 399 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: Adam min Terry, Terrell Suggs, Eli Manning. You see, there's 400 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: a leak that he's not going to get in. Where 401 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: it's where are all these leaks coming from? Kevin Hall 402 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: of Fame put out a statement yesterday saying, hey, we 403 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: find out who these people are. 404 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 4: They're out. 405 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, I assume it's the players in forming their 406 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: people that they haven't gotten And so again, you know, 407 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: Breeze and Fitzgerald their absolute locks. And you're getting to 408 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 2: that third. You need forty of the fifty votes and 409 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: you could only vote for three so when you start 410 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: to do the math, it's just difficult to get a 411 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: third if it's not an absolute slam dunk there. So 412 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: you know, I was chatting Derek Schultz yesterday afternoon. Like 413 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: Reggie Wayne, I think it is a deserved Hall of Famer. 414 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 2: I have real skepticism he's going to get in anytime soon. 415 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: It's just the reality of how the process has changed, 416 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: a little bit of the wide receiver position, all of that. 417 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, others up for it to Speaking of wide receivers, 418 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: Tory Holt, lou Keickley, Kevin Williams, the Minnesota Vikings, a 419 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: defensive tackle, Jason Witten the tight end for the Cowboys, 420 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: Darren Woodson the safety, and of course Marshall gyand of 421 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: the guard played for the Ravens for all those years. 422 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: That's the list of finalists and we'll find out who's 423 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: going to get in soon enough. Here we can also 424 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: tell you that another defection from the Live Golf Tour 425 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: has taken place. 426 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 4: Patrick Reid Kevin is leaving Live Golf. 427 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: He will return to the PGA Tour competition as soon 428 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: as this fall. PGA Tour put out a statement set 429 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: as a result of resigning his membership in twenty twenty two, 430 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: prior to violating any PGA Tour regulations. Patrick is eligible 431 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: to compete on the PGA Tour as a non member 432 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: beginning on August twenty fifth, twenty twenty six. Similar to 433 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: anyone reinstated under the Returning Member program, any former PGA 434 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: Tour member returning to the tour would be ineligible for 435 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: participation in the Player Equity Program through twenty thirty. And 436 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: I won't get into all the details, but like when 437 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: brooks Koepka came back, the buy back in and the 438 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: amount of money he's given up on living that he 439 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: will not be eligible for at the PGA Tour was 440 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: pretty significant. 441 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, heart really breaks for the Live Golf Tour, really sympathetic. 442 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,239 Speaker 2: Figure got emotional last night thinking about them in their 443 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: future and how difficult this must be. And boy, as 444 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: much pain as watching Notre Dame losing double overtime laste 445 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: I felt when I saw that headline. I think it 446 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: tells you a lot when Brooks Kepi and Patrick Reid 447 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: are dealing with the penalties that they are dealing with 448 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: just to leave. Yeah, that's quite a statement in my mind. 449 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: All right, and more NFL News Todd Munkin is the 450 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: new head coach for the Cleveland Browns. Doesn't it just 451 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: feel like another old, same old for the Cleveland Browns, 452 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: like they just never quite get it right. 453 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 454 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. When I saw that headline and 455 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 2: then I later saw Kyle and then Rip tweet out 456 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: last night that Bud Wright is still coaching at the 457 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 2: age of eighty five, I want the Cleveland Browns to 458 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: hire Bud Wright. This statement in the article is one 459 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: of the greatest things I've ever seen. Bud Right obviously 460 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 2: the all time winningest coach here in the state of Indiana, 461 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: eighty five years old, four hundred and sixty four wins. 462 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: He's going to coach Southwood next year. Head coach says 463 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: it takes some sixty six minutes to get from his 464 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: home in Sheridan to Southwood, and he has a camper 465 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 2: that he can take to the nearby Massena Sinewa reserv 466 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: or if he needs to know they were stay there 467 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: for a night or two. How about that eighty five 468 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: years old at football coach of high school? 469 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: That is you know the kids throw this around, Maybe 470 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: not so much now, but a couple of years ago 471 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: the phrase Caleb, He's just built different. For the love 472 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: of the game, man, he is just built different. 473 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 4: That what's all about? In all the right way. Brown 474 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 4: should hire Bud right, they probably should. 475 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: They have more success, I think getting down of brass 476 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: tacks at the Australian Open to Arena Sabalnka, the number 477 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: one Rake women's player of the world, has advanced to 478 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: the Australian Open finals. She'll play the winner of Jessica 479 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: Pigula or Atlana Ribakina. The semi finals are set for 480 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: the men. Same old, same old, Kevin, how about this? 481 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: The top four seeds remain at the Australian Open for 482 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: the semi finals Al Karez, Verev, Jokovic and Center. But 483 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: I am here for those four. I am here for 484 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: heavyweight championship. 485 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 2: Is yeah, Ben Shelton and as Carmel Heritage couldn't pull 486 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: off the upside over mister Cinner. 487 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: That's a tough ask. He is really he might be 488 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: the best player in the world right now. I'm not 489 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: sure if he's number one or not, but man, he 490 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: is good. 491 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: I love that you threw in a tennis update because 492 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: I have been trying to stay up and watch some 493 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 3: of it. 494 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: So, dear lords, I remember I used to do that 495 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: in college. I'd come home from the bars and the 496 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: Australia three. It's awesome, awesome, Let's get some pizza and 497 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 2: watch a couple of sets of Fetter and Yeah. 498 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: Also the Indiana State Sportscasters Association Bob Williams Helping Hand Award. 499 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 4: Do you see this? 500 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: Kevin goes out to our buddy Matt Kanti of the Colts, 501 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: vice president of Communication for the Colts. Matt and the 502 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: Colts PR staff have been recognized previously as tops. 503 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 4: In the NFL. 504 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: He and the other honories will be recognized at their 505 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: banquet on April the twelfth. So is there a better 506 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: human being? Honestly, we say his all the time. Matt Kanti, 507 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: that is a quality guy. 508 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that was announced last week. I think 509 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 2: we mentioned that. 510 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 4: I just came across it in a release this. 511 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: Week briefly on air. But yes, Matt Kanty, terrific human. 512 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: Shout out to Christian Edwards and Pam Humphrey and Steve 513 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: Campbell and Hayden Clark. Matgiever's list goes on and on. 514 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: The tremendous staff over there that help us out and uh, 515 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 2: they deserve some quiet time here in the off season. 516 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm. 517 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: Clark and new father. Shout out to Hayden Clark and 518 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: his lovely wife Claire. 519 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 1: I didn't know that, j Clark. 520 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: Hopefully everyone's healthy and happy. And we've got to range 521 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 2: a marriage between PJ and Nelly. I'd sign up for 522 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: that tomorrow, all right. 523 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 4: Anything else you want to throw in Ken? 524 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 2: Arranged marriages? 525 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: Is that a thing? 526 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 4: I think somewhere at other places in the world, not. 527 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: Here, you know, I don't. I don't know. I could 528 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: be talked into it if it. He's down of the 529 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 2: stress of watching one of my daughters have to go 530 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: through the dating life. I honestly might be. 531 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 4: And madd can choose. 532 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 5: You heard this idea out of me, but I'm letting 533 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 5: you guys know. 534 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: Man oh man, all right, anything else you want to 535 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: throw in Kenna before we had to break you? 536 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: No, I'm good, all right, we will, Uh. 537 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: We will have NFL discussions and the cults in their 538 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: future and what might lie ahead coming up at a 539 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 1: moment here as we continue ninety three five and one 540 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: seven five Fan Kevin, I was wondering about this one 541 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: and then I saw an article in the Indianapolis Star 542 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: that made me think of you a little bit too. 543 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: Dana Beinbow wrote an article today about Upland Brewing and 544 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: game day of the Who's Your Game Day Lagger? 545 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 4: It is on fire. 546 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: It has been requested by national grocery chains in thirty 547 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: five different states. They want big old displays on the 548 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: end of aisles. They can't keep enough of it. They're 549 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: brewing it as fast as they can now They're gonna 550 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: have to wait for new stuff to come in. Ever since, 551 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti talked about this and mentioned that it's his favorite, 552 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: the game day thing. 553 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 4: Who's your Game Day Lagger? They can't keep it on 554 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 4: the shelves. 555 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 6: Man. 556 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: I am more of a dragonfly individual from the Upland crew. 557 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 2: Matty Bowen likes the Champagne velvet from Upland. We ventured 558 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: to the forty nine College one quite often. Great great spot. So, yeah, 559 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti, who's your game day logger? You mentioned that 560 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 2: in the postgame press conference. 561 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 6: What couple? 562 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: What do we know about nine days removed from it all? 563 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: He made it clear. Oonber right, that's a great, great 564 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: Straw said to me the other night, I'm going one drink. 565 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: If I go a second, I might be napping on 566 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 2: you job limitations, I would have been fine. There was 567 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: a lot of room inside that arena on Monday night 568 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: or Tuesday night. He easily could have napped if you 569 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: would like. I don't know if Ertzignetti had a Who's 570 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: Your Game day logger or two? But did you catches 571 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 2: shot at that school up in West Lafayette? 572 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 4: Oh, it was Savage. 573 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: Now with Savage, we haven't had a Signetti drop the 574 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 2: mic in a while. I think in the Signetti world 575 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: of lingo, he's really behaved quite well. You know. I 576 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 2: was kind of hoping we'd get one of those Saturday 577 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: at the celebration, I know, if it was too cold. 578 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: Haircut looked great, by the way for Kurtzignetti, very high 579 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 2: and tight there. We didn't really get one, I thought 580 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 2: in Miami. Unless I'm missing something there, you know, postgame 581 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 2: or you know, even the day after. But it's Caleb. 582 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: It's a little hard to maybe decipher. So hopefully the 583 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 2: audio will come across well, because Kurtzignetti is like a 584 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 2: facetiming here. This is with Stanford Steve, Yeah, who we 585 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 2: see on college game day, of course, and Stanford Steve 586 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 2: references the bucket and Mark Dial wanted to bring the 587 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 2: bucket out onto the floor the other night, and Kurtzignetti 588 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: was like, dude, we won the national title. We don't 589 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 2: need to bring the bucket out onto the court here. 590 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden the score total against 591 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 2: Perdue got brought up, and Kurtz Signetti had quite the 592 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 2: joke today. 593 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 7: You know one of our one of the guys that's 594 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 7: been here a long time, Mark Deal, you know, he's 595 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 7: been here since like nineteen sixty five. 596 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: I probably he actually brought the uh, the bucket with them, 597 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 3: you know, to bring out with as Mark will will 598 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: be on that now. 599 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: You know we're just taking national. 600 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: One hundred. 601 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 6: You beat that team two years? 602 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: What's that? 603 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: You beat them twenty one hundred and twenty two to 604 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 2: three in two years? 605 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 4: You beat them. They don't need to see the bucket. 606 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: They know where I wanted to hear you say again, 607 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: what's that, Kevin? 608 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: What's that you say? 609 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 5: Caleb? 610 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 2: Maybe just that last part again again it's a little 611 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 2: He asks Stanford Steve to repeat the score against Purdue 612 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: from the last two years. 613 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: What's that you beat them? 614 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: Twenty one hundred and twenty two to three in two years. 615 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 4: You beat them. They don't need to see the bucket. 616 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 2: They know where. 617 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: I want to hear you say it again. 618 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 4: I just wanted you to hear it. I wanted to 619 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 4: hear you say it again. That's all. 620 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: It's really funny. It's savage the right word, no, that is. 621 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: But I just feel so bad for Purdue fans right now, 622 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 3: Like you gotta if you're a Purdue fan, like you 623 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 3: just gotta wait. 624 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: You gotta wait, you gotta see it through. 625 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 3: It's all gonna be worth it, But you are. You 626 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: are getting dragged right now. I actually haven't he looked outside, man. 627 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 3: I mean Jesus, I mean, I don't know what we're 628 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 3: waiting for you, Kevin. 629 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: I actually have a Purdue fan, like premiere decades long 630 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: fan update, our own beloved Todd Meyer, who I love 631 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: and respect, and I learned something new about produce sports 632 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: all the time when I talk to him, because he's 633 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: that into it and he's always willing to share stuff. 634 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: He has gone on strike. He will not watch this 635 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: Purdue basketball team again. He thinks he thinks that there's 636 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: something going on behind the scenes that nobody's talking about. 637 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 2: He just knows that this team said juice here something wrong. 638 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: But he is Paul George George Hilly from back in 639 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 2: the day. 640 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: Further notice, he announced to a Scotty Jay and I 641 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: yesterday that he is on strike against the basketball team. 642 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: This is a guy who never misses a second of anything. 643 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like a sorry life, brother, I'm not 644 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 2: gonna lie. I mean here, I am consuming forty minutes 645 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: at their Dame basketball, my entire life on it. You 646 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: want to talk, Are we really there with? 647 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 5: Are we that worried? 648 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 3: I I don't think this happens to a lot of 649 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 3: college basketball teams around the country. 650 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 4: What I was trying to tell him, I was trying 651 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 4: to talk him off the led yesterday, Caleb and I 652 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 4: understand they're a veteran team. 653 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 3: I understand that you know, Braden Smith let your lawyer 654 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: have been there for a really long time. But but 655 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 3: this this is what college basketball is, man. Every team 656 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 3: goes through it in some capacity. And yes, it was 657 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 3: a rough week, but they saw a lot of games 658 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 3: left where if you beat you beat Illinois Michigan, when 659 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 3: you play them again, like you got a chance to 660 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 3: kind of turn this back around, so it happens. 661 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: This from listener, Ryan calls himself a big Burdue fan. 662 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: Please pass along to Todd Meyer that he's a huge 663 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: and I'll let you wow fill there. 664 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: I think you got to give him some grace. He's 665 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: still very frustrated. Giving him he's very frustrated, and he 666 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: just expects more. 667 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 5: Or what are they up? 668 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: Five on Illinois? The final media time out of six 669 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: on UCL Get mean, gee, what are you gonna do? 670 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: Dial up Barry Otum highlights and Ryan Walter's highlights, and 671 00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: I think. 672 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 4: He's just waiting many diehard Purdue fans. 673 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: I think he's still going through the stages of grief 674 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: with Indiana winning a national championship. 675 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 4: I think he's still going through that. 676 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: And then you throw in this losing streak where Purdue 677 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: has been going in fits and starts and hasn't quite 678 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: looked like a top fourteen that we all thought they. 679 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 4: Were going to be this year. 680 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,719 Speaker 1: I think he's just he's in his fields right now, 681 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: and I get it, and I think he should get 682 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: a little grace for that. CA lib am I wrong 683 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: on that? 684 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 8: I don't. 685 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: I don't think you're wrong stopping just because he's the boss, 686 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 2: doesn't mean you gotta get. 687 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 3: I'll be honest, That's exactly why I'm saying this. But like, look, man, 688 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 3: like sports fandom, sports fandom. He just went right by 689 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 3: basketball fandom. You know again, I think this is just 690 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 3: what you go through. And I'm sure he'll be back 691 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 3: around once the Big Ten Tournament comes around, which I am. 692 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: I am curious. 693 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: Where that's going to shake out and where they're going 694 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 3: to be seated in that, and just kind of where 695 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 3: they'll be seated in the tournament. They got a lot 696 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 3: of quality games left, they got chances. 697 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I would say, in all seriousness, like 698 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: that is the one item right now. You know that 699 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: you know pretty obviously he's one Big ten titles, and 700 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: you know they've made runs of the Big Ted Tournament 701 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: here in the Painter era, probably more than any other team. 702 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: But you know, from a seeding standpoint, I do think 703 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: that it's worth bringing up. You know, are you on 704 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: a route that is not conducive to necessarily be in 705 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: within I mean they've you know, benefit obviously two years 706 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: ago near the one seed, you're in Detroit for the 707 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 2: first two rounds. I think they were here if I'm 708 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: not mistaken for the first two rounds in Detroit. I 709 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: should have said for the Sweet sixteen Elite eight. You know, 710 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: if this recent trend becomes more of a thing in 711 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: February than that type of pathway, probably not gonna happen. 712 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: You're hopping on a plane trying to get back to 713 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: Indy for the final four here. So yeah, that sounded 714 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 2: a little. 715 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 4: He'll bounce back, He'll be ready to go this week. 716 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 2: It sounded like deep in the message boards, you know. 717 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 4: You know, he'll be watching the. 718 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: Maryland game as soon as it starts on Saturday. He's 719 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: just going through. 720 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: If they don't win that, then we can have another conversation. 721 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 2: I don't think Maryland could beat US three. Yeah, yeah, 722 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: that's that's got to be a muscle. 723 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: Well, if we had JMB, then it's over. Yeah, we 724 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: had jamb and James and it's over with US three. 725 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 4: That's right right there. 726 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: I like that. Let's talk a little bit football, Kevin, 727 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: You and I had discussed it briefly. Yesterday. ESPN released 728 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: their their list of top fifty NFL free agent this year. 729 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: Among them, there were three or four edge guys within 730 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: that fifty. Some of the big names that you know, 731 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: and then are there are other options like I don't know, 732 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: would the Raiders actually trade Max Crosby things of that nature. 733 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: But if you were the Colts knowing where they're at 734 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: with the salary cap and that they'd have to move 735 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: some things or whatever, do we rely on Chris Ballard 736 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: to try and go get an edge rusher in the 737 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: draft or are we just going to have to bring 738 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: in somebody who's demonstrated the ability over time in the 739 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: National Football League that they can get to the quarterback. 740 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: Oh, I think it has to be somebody that's already 741 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: in the league. I mean, you want to talk about 742 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: the Ballard hit rate with pass rushers, particularly ones after 743 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 2: round one, and yeah, I'm not. Yeah, I'm not betting 744 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: on that. I guess I could use my dad's old 745 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: quote that he would always tell me of, you know whatever, 746 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: the blind squirrel finds a nut in the forest every 747 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: once in a while. So I, yeah, I'm not. I'm 748 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: not banking on that. You know, I'd be betting with 749 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: your money there, So yeah, I think again, this gets 750 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: into the difficulty of the off season of without a 751 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: first round pick, a huge, huge, huge amount of that 752 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 2: cap space has got to go to your quarterback and 753 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: you're white out Alex Pearson, Daniel Jones. How do you maneuver? 754 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 2: You know, how do you do some of the other 755 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: things there? So those would be questions that I would have. 756 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm probably more of a free agent than 757 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 2: I am banking on pick fifty walking in here and 758 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: providing consistent pass rush help from day one. 759 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: Well, in that top fifty to dyspun out, the number 760 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: one free agent available of all positions is Trey Hendrickson 761 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: from the Cincinnati Bengals. 762 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 4: He will be thirty one entering the season. 763 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: A is there even a mechanism they could clear enough 764 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: space to go out and get him? And at thirty 765 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: one would you be willing to sign him for two 766 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: or three years? 767 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: Well? 768 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 5: I don't know. 769 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 4: That's part of the question too. 770 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 5: What about age and injury history are starting to add 771 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 5: up there? 772 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: Obviously, the Andrumo connection is well documented, and we saw 773 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 2: Anda Rumo have quite the affinity for bringing in his 774 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 2: own guys last year, guys he had history with. But 775 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 2: I I get that maybe I'm talking on both sides 776 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: of my mouth and maybe I'm being picky with that one, 777 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 2: But I'd probably look at some other names. It just 778 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 2: was it was it a hip last year for him? 779 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 4: It there they have been mounting up. 780 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: She didn't talk about his injury in the in the 781 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: little thing there, but yeah, hip sounds right. I can't remember. 782 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 2: Something along those lines. I mean, you know you're dealing 783 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 2: with the neck with the Forest Buckner. It just it's 784 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 2: a lot when you get to those guys and you 785 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: know the ages of those players. But again I realized that, 786 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: you know, you can only be so so picky here. 787 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: So you know, I'll keep on coming back to starting 788 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: defensive vent opposite a lot too. I think you have 789 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: to do something that linebacker of substance, and to be 790 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 2: fair to Ballat, he has drafted extraordinarily well a linebacker, 791 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 2: So you know, maybe that's a position. You say, all right, 792 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 2: can you find more of an instant impact second or 793 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 2: third round pick there via the draft, commit more to 794 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: whatever cap space you were able to create, commit more 795 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: of that to guys in free agency. 796 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 5: But you do have you know your your. 797 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 2: Most free agents are at defensive end. What do you 798 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 2: pay Samson Abacom, Taekwon Lewis And those are three of 799 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 2: your top four defensive ends from last season, So just 800 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 2: naturally there could be some you know, walking out the door, 801 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: new guys walking in the door there. 802 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips is gonna be twenty seven years old coming 803 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: from the Philadelphia Eagles. 804 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 4: Anybody anything you'd like there. 805 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 2: Or that's probably a little bit more. And I get 806 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: Phillips's definitely have some injuries, so I don't want to 807 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 2: ignore that. If I remember correctly, I think he gave 808 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 2: Philly a little bit of a jolt there at the 809 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 2: trade deadline. He was definitely a rumored candidate at the 810 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 2: trade deadline, but he just you have to do something there. 811 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 2: And this cons into the Super Bowl conversation of like, 812 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 2: you know, to me, if you want to have a 813 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: real gripe about you know, where the Colts are versus 814 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 2: these Super Bowl teams. You know a lot of people 815 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 2: brought up the quarterbacks. Well, you know, New England had 816 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: hit on Drake May as a number three overall pick. 817 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 2: That's just a hat tip. You know. Obviously the Colts 818 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: did not hit on their top five pick a quarterback. 819 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 2: I mean, whether that many people stand on table for 820 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 2: Sam Donald, like I think hindsight can get really really 821 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty with that Yeah, it's more of the defenses 822 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: in Seattle and in New England that you look at 823 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 2: them and you look at the Colts, and that would 824 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 2: be the frustrated element to me, considering how much the 825 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 2: Colts have drafted, how much the Colts have paid, how 826 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 2: many coordinators they've tried, and you know, Ballard again has 827 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 2: been the one constant here throughout those nine years. 828 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 5: That to me is more of the. 829 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 2: Legitimate question that you would have as a Colts fan 830 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 2: looking at the Super Bowl teams, more so than oh, yeah, 831 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 2: we should have drafted Drake May Well, you know, that's 832 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 2: much more easier said than done, or you know, we 833 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: should have bet on Sam Donald Well. You know, again 834 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: there's a lot of skepticism off that. I think the 835 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 2: defense is where you have a very fair gripe. 836 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and another guy that's gonna be really sought after two. 837 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 1: We saw him have a big playoff game, a daffy 838 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,959 Speaker 1: oa from the Chargers. He's only gonna be twenty seven. 839 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: He had seven and a half sacks and twenty seven 840 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: pressures this year. But in that wild card lost to 841 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,959 Speaker 1: the Patriots, he was all over Drake may. 842 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 2: And that well, and he was big for the Chargers, 843 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 2: and he got traded there from Baltimore, you know, back 844 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 2: during the office. So you know those two jef would 845 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 2: probably more fall into that boat there. For me particularly, 846 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 2: you know, I expect Buckner to play, but you know, 847 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: again with his age and now the back and the neck, 848 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 2: and you know, he's such a freaking alien when you 849 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 2: you know, look at him and his pedigree and his 850 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 2: durability and now it's like, oh boy, his father time 851 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 2: saying hey, even you, I can I can get to 852 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 2: you know, not every day are you flying down to 853 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 2: Panama for stem cell on your neck? 854 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 855 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 3: What I was gonna jump in here too, Like just 856 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 3: sticking with the Super Bowl conversation. I don't know if 857 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 3: you guys have touched on this this week, so I 858 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 3: apologize if I'm repeating something, But I think the most 859 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 3: interesting thing to me about this matchup as it relates 860 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 3: to the Colts is like these, this is the two 861 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 3: ways I think to build a team in the NFL. Like, 862 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 3: either get the coach in the young quarterback on our 863 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 3: rookie contract with Rabel and may or I feel like 864 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 3: the Seahawks model is kind of what the Colts have 865 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 3: been trudging through for the last eight years, which like 866 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 3: try to have a good team around the quarterback and 867 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:34,479 Speaker 3: bring somebody in that maybe not reclamation project is the word, 868 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 3: because I think Darnold did have a good year last 869 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 3: year with the Vikings, but like, just bring someone in 870 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 3: to elevate everybody else. And I think that that's the 871 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 3: most interesting part about this matchup to me. I think 872 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 3: because you look at Alan josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, the 873 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 3: quarterbacks that are getting paid a bunch of money and 874 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 3: they haven't made a Super Bowl, And I think getting 875 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 3: a quarterback on a manageable deal which brings the Colts 876 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 3: in an equation this offseason with Daniel Jones and kind 877 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 3: of what they did last year as well, I think 878 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 3: that's the most interesting part of It's me when it 879 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 3: relates to. 880 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: The team in this city. 881 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, there's a lot of work to be done 882 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: on that defense this offseason and some of the other 883 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 1: things that need to be addressed as well, and mostly 884 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: you just got to get your quarterback healthy and keep 885 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 1: it healthy. That seems the biggest thing. But then again, 886 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 1: I look back, people forget the last couple of games 887 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones did play, and maybe the leg had 888 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: something to do with it before the Achilles But it 889 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: wasn't like he was lighting it up those last couple 890 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: of games. 891 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 2: You may have started something here with this IU Purdue 892 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 2: nature Jay Grace question mark. For the fan base that 893 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 2: constantly chance IU sucks, the only thing they'll get is 894 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 2: more IU living rent free in their heads in a 895 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:50,439 Speaker 2: sweet sixteen loss. Man Now new fans want to counter. 896 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's great, Ammo, but what do 897 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 2: you got Two NCAA tournament wins for IU in the 898 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 2: last nine years, and one of those is in Dayton, Ohio. 899 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 5: Is a playing game? 900 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 2: Not much right now. 901 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 1: I think Kurt Signetti is the guy that lit the fuse. 902 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 4: I think we're pouring gasoline on the fire in here too. 903 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 2: So whatever that pathetic nature of Todd and I are 904 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 2: not watching Purdue game. 905 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 1: I mean, what in the world what I was giving 906 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: Todd a little bit of. 907 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 2: Highlights? 908 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 5: He's good. 909 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 2: Todd's good all of a sudden, you know, breeze to 910 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 2: moraless on retweet on the like what. 911 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: I just know Purdue fans in general, they're going through it. 912 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: I know several of them, and they're they're having a 913 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: time right now. But they'll I I still care to 914 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: scratcher back. I still think that that that team has 915 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: plenty of juice. They'll they'll figure it out. It's a 916 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 1: talented team. If anybody can figure it out, Matt Painter 917 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 1: is going to figure it out. Can't give up after 918 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: just three long coming from right there, I can't do it. 919 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 7: No. 920 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: But as far as the getting back to the Colts though, 921 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,720 Speaker 1: you know that they're already starting to put plans together 922 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: and formulating what the kinds of things they want to 923 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: do with free agency and the a much better view 924 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: of that probably after the first part of March. But 925 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: how many how different do you expect that defense to 926 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: look on the defensive line and at linebacker. 927 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think that's a big question, Jeff, because 928 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 2: I just don't know how many resources they have to 929 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 2: make household household changes. You know, Bower would have to 930 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 2: do some stuff differently, you'd have to part way. So 931 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,479 Speaker 2: some guys he's already resigned in previous cycles. And again 932 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 2: that's not on his track record, is it now? Is 933 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 2: you know, like last offseason he did some things differently. 934 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 2: Does he view this offseason as necessary in that light? 935 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 2: So again, when you don't have a first round pick. 936 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 2: And it's not just you don't have a first round pick. 937 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 2: They've operated in off seasons without a first round pick. 938 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 2: Oftentimes though that first round pick has just been a 939 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 2: trade back, so they've gotten other, you know, picks, particularly 940 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 2: second rounders that they've been able to spend. This first 941 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 2: round pick went for Sauce Gardner, so again, they don't 942 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: have the you know, this is not twenty eighteen where 943 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 2: they traded back from three to six with Quentin Nelson 944 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 2: and got more picks, or the Michael Pittman junior Jonathan 945 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 2: Taylor second round draft in twenty twenty. This is different. 946 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 2: So how do you operate without that? 947 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 5: I don't you know? 948 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 2: If I said to you over under three and a 949 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 2: half new starters defensively, where would. 950 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 4: You go over? 951 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: How? 952 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 4: That's what I say that to me? That's the challenge. 953 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: But if you just run it back and you have 954 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: eight or nine guys back, what have you really done 955 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: unless you add a true, true impact guy. 956 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 2: You know, again, three new starters defensive end, linebacker and 957 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 2: Nick crosswalks and you have a new safety. 958 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: Is that if they're okay? Is there going to read 959 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: Here's the question. We've talked about this before. If they 960 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 1: do spend money and go to that defensive line or 961 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: edge to do money, does that mean that they don't 962 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: have enough to get Nick cross back and they start 963 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 1: over and draft somebody. 964 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 4: That's the other question. 965 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,720 Speaker 1: I just know that if they come back with pretty 966 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: much the same defense and they don't truly add an 967 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: impact player and two really solid guys like Matt c 968 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: has has chimed in on the text Line said Colt's 969 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,240 Speaker 1: second round pick needs to be the backbone middle linebacker 970 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 1: the defense. In his opinion, the core line the linebacking 971 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: corps was embarrassing this year. 972 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I can definitely agree with that. Obviously, Ballard, you 973 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,879 Speaker 2: know again, has had great history drafting linebackers. So let's 974 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: play that out. Let's say you draft, you know whatever, 975 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 2: your second round pick as a linebacker starts from day one? Okay, 976 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 2: do you have room and free agency then to draft 977 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 2: or to sign? I should say you know more than 978 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 2: two defensive starters. I don't see that. And if you're 979 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 2: going to sit here and say, well your third round 980 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 2: pick can come in and start, well, your fourth round 981 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 2: pick can come and start. Jeff named the second best 982 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 2: rookie the Colts had this season. 983 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 4: That would have been a guy that got hurt very 984 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 4: early on. 985 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: After Tyler Warren. There wasn't a lot happening, wasn't there? 986 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 1: Who was it? Who am I missing? 987 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 2: Caleb Zuverer? How many games did you play for the 988 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,439 Speaker 2: Colts this year? Zero? How many sacks of JT Twey 989 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 2: Moloile have as a second round pick. I'm gonna guess zero. Yeah, 990 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 2: And that's a dude that produced at a high level 991 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 2: for the best college football program in Ohio State. And 992 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 2: so that's where I'm getting at. It's like banking on 993 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 2: all these rookies and draft picks to come in here. 994 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 2: And yeah, you bring up justin Wally. You know you 995 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 2: were hoping that. Obviously Wally, you know, doesn't tear as 996 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 2: a cl but you know, still, it's just banking on 997 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,879 Speaker 2: these rookie If I literally said who the second best 998 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 2: rookie for the Colt Colts was last year, you could 999 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 2: make a case it was Riley Leonard. 1000 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, That's what I was gonna say, is like, I 1001 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 3: think that's the only answer, because otherwise it's who Jalen Trafic. 1002 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 2: Jalen Travis would be the only other one that I 1003 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 2: would even ponder so again that's where you know, Ballard 1004 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 2: Dowd played that a few weeks back of like, how 1005 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 2: do you operate an off season without a first round pick? 1006 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 2: You know, he pointed to like past history, you know, 1007 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 2: we've had pretty good off seasons without it. We can 1008 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 2: maybe get more into that here in the coming days 1009 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 2: and weeks. I would push back on that. I think 1010 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 2: it's a very mixed bag, and honestly, I think that's 1011 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 2: a compliment to call it a mixed bag. But that's 1012 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 2: what makes this offseason, I think, different than last year. 1013 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 2: I think last year I felt pretty confident they would 1014 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 2: spend on outside free agents and do things differently, and 1015 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 2: they did that this offseason. I'm a little unsure on 1016 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 2: exactly how they'll retool the defense. They say they want to, 1017 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 2: and I agree they need to, but again, the how 1018 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 2: of it, I think is what makes this offseason an unknown. 1019 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: All Right, coming up in a moment, the Pacers get 1020 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: a big comfort behind win last night at the Fieldhouse. 1021 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit more about that and continue 1022 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: always talking about the NFL and the Coats as we 1023 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: roll on on ninety three to five and one O 1024 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: seven to five. 1025 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 6: The fan. 1026 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: Caleb was over announcing his presence in the eight o'clock 1027 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:45,399 Speaker 1: hour in the place of Mark Dyton today, Mark has 1028 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: I know it's shocking, Kevin. Mark has a PTO day 1029 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: this morning. Take care of the girls over there. So 1030 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,439 Speaker 1: we wish him all the best and hope to see 1031 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: him again. What Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, cab. 1032 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,919 Speaker 2: Well, I would say this about Mark. 1033 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 3: You know, I know we're making a lot of jokes 1034 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 3: about his PTO, but I mean, the guy worked Saturday 1035 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,760 Speaker 3: night doing ist, he did the pairing show on Sunday. 1036 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 2: This is all through the snowstorm. Listen. 1037 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 3: I'm just giving people the benefit of the day. Didn't work, 1038 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 3: he always worked out, and so you know he's earned. 1039 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 2: Guys, gonna go buy him a happy hour at Red 1040 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 2: Garter while you're at it. Yeah, still open? 1041 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 4: Is Red Garter still open? I don't know what that is, 1042 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,320 Speaker 4: but it sounds awesome. I think you can probably surmise 1043 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 4: what it is. Yeah, have you ever? I don't know. 1044 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 4: I've not been inside. 1045 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: It's been decades since I've been in an establishment like 1046 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: the Red Garter. 1047 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 4: Pre marriage. We need to change pre marriage. 1048 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 2: Sea gloomy weather. I'll making it warm things up quick. 1049 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 1: In that establishment. 1050 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 4: That's Maddie Online two for you right there. 1051 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: But it's a fan morning show. We've been talking about 1052 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers this morning. They get a big come 1053 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: from behind win last night at the field House, down 1054 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: fourteen midway through the fourth quarter, and they still to 1055 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: turn it around, and for a minute it looked like 1056 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: the rally might get shut down because Vuzzowch hits that 1057 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: banking three from up top, and then the Pacers just 1058 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,919 Speaker 1: kept coming back and coming back, and they were hitting 1059 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 1: free throws down the stretch. Can't go big enough on 1060 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: that baseline reverse layup last night by Nie Smith, who 1061 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: had some big shots down the stretch. Yeah, big three too. 1062 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 2: There's been a lot of games this season where the 1063 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 2: Pacers got in the clutch and the opponent has made 1064 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 2: all the plays. I thought last night, outside of the 1065 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 2: Vusovich bank, which was very sloppy, I would venture to 1066 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 2: say the Pacers made, you know, ninety percent of the plays. Yes, 1067 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,879 Speaker 2: you bring up the Nie Smith, you know drive there. 1068 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 2: I thought Siakam had a sneaky big play tipping that 1069 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 2: ball out that got swung around for the Jay Huff 1070 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,320 Speaker 2: three to tie it. You know, Nemhard had kind of 1071 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,720 Speaker 2: that little fading shot. I think it was just outside 1072 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 2: of the lane. That possession was going nowhere. As much 1073 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,879 Speaker 2: as we talk about Niemith's layup, I mean, how about 1074 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 2: the defense he had and helping out when Kobe White 1075 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 2: was driving there. I think that would have potentially been 1076 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 2: the game winner, you know, had White made that shot 1077 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,479 Speaker 2: there and you know he kind of had a step 1078 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 2: on Furfee, And I mean it's just it's just vintage 1079 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 2: ni Smith, just such a smart, heady player there. If 1080 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 2: I couldn't nitpick, I don't love the night for Jeris 1081 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 2: Walker outside of scoring, and I don't want to fall 1082 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 2: into this trap with Walker. People are going to see 1083 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 2: sixteen points in twenty two minutes and say, what are 1084 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 2: you moaning about? Look at the rest of the box 1085 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 2: score zero zero zero zero zero twenty two minutes out 1086 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 2: of a six eight twenty. 1087 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 1: Time to do? 1088 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 4: How do you not fall into a rebounder. 1089 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 2: I mean, that's some marked Titus trillion stuff there that 1090 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 2: you're talking about. So again, I think Walker and Rick Carlisle, 1091 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 2: and you know we had him on yesterday. It was 1092 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,439 Speaker 2: very glowing in his recent pro play praise. In again 1093 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 2: scoring the basketball, there was some nice moments from Jeri's 1094 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 2: last night. But you know, again, to truly be a 1095 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 2: guy that I think is an important core piece for you, 1096 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to do some of that other stuff there. 1097 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 2: I thought Matherin rebounded the ball very well and his 1098 00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 2: scoring burst there in the third. I don't think it 1099 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 2: was a great great night for Matherin, but I thought 1100 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 2: that third quarter was huge. He was he had that 1101 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 2: bench up going, he had Tyre's Haliburton chirpin. That was 1102 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 2: a really big third quarter. Rick actually changed two of 1103 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 2: the starters he started Mathering and huff there in the 1104 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 2: third quarter. So yeah, very nice win, you know, coming 1105 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 2: back down fourteen, all of it there. So PACER's four 1106 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,399 Speaker 2: game homestand now they'll actually have two days off. They'll 1107 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 2: have a rematch with Atlanta coming up Saturday night inside 1108 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,319 Speaker 2: of gamebridge Field. 1109 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 1: And that was Matherin's second game back from injury, so 1110 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: he's starting to pick it up a little bit too. 1111 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 1: The one other concern though is big guys quality, big 1112 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,359 Speaker 1: guys still vexing this team. Obviously, Nikolay you Vussovich had 1113 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: twenty five points and nine rebounds last night, and for 1114 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,760 Speaker 1: a minute up until PACER's really got on that comeback 1115 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: in the middle of the fourth quarter. Looked like he 1116 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 1: was gonna be the guy that was the difference maker 1117 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 1: in the game last night. 1118 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 2: Kevin, I think Vussovich has cloned. I swear he's been 1119 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 2: on the Bulls for ten years. I don't even remember 1120 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 2: him on the Magic, but I swear he's going to 1121 00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,439 Speaker 2: be on the Bulls for another ten. 1122 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 4: Years, which means you get to see him four times 1123 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 4: a year. 1124 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 2: Are the Bulls the ten seed in the playing game 1125 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 2: every year then versus the Heat every year? In that 1126 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,399 Speaker 2: playing the Bulls always lose? Yeah, all the time, all 1127 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 2: the time. That's the Bulls right now. Now again, let's 1128 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,879 Speaker 2: get into this here, Jeff, pull up those. 1129 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 5: Standings for me. While you're adding, I go back down. 1130 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: Look at it here. 1131 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 2: Going into last night, I believe we had five teams 1132 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 2: the five worst teams in the league either had ten 1133 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 2: or eleven wins. 1134 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 4: Here's what we have after last night's games. 1135 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,320 Speaker 1: In the Eastern Conference, the thirteenth team is Brooklyn at twelve. 1136 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 4: And thirty three. 1137 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 1: Pacers are twelve and thirty six, Washington is eleven and 1138 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 1: thirty four. You go to the Western Conference, Sacramento is 1139 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: twelve and thirty six. New Orleans is twelve and thirty seven, 1140 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 1: and don't give up on the race to the bottom 1141 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: for the Utah Jazz, who are fifteen and thirty three. 1142 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:51,800 Speaker 6: So there you go. 1143 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 2: You have Washington with the worst record eleven wins, and 1144 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 2: then you have four teams right now with twelve wins, 1145 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 2: so I mean that is a very jumble. And then 1146 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 2: you mentioned Utah at fifteen. There is a sixth worst record. 1147 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 2: So one, two, three, four, five, the five worst teams 1148 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 2: in the league are separated by one win. Now you 1149 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 2: know they haven't all played the same amount of games, 1150 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 2: so the losses are a little different. But that's a 1151 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 2: very jumbled mess. Now this was the NFL, and it 1152 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 2: was that close, I think you'd be in freak out 1153 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 2: mode a little bit. I mean, the difference between the 1154 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 2: first pick and the fifth pick in the NFL is 1155 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 2: Gargantua is first. 1156 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 4: Pick a lot of times you can get the game changing. 1157 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 2: Imagine if you need a quarterback right now and you 1158 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 2: have the fifth pick, you'd be like, oh, geez, the 1159 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 2: Cults are in that position a few years ago. 1160 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 4: Fourth, Sure, yes, you're you're not sold on Carson Beckett. 1161 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 1: Number five joy, not if I'm trying to win. 1162 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 2: But again, when you get into the odds, and I 1163 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 2: know we're gonna get a little nerdy here, but bear 1164 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 2: with us, because this is how the NBA works. They 1165 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 2: don't go off of the true reverse order from your record. 1166 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 2: We get into lottery balls, we get into the ping 1167 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,840 Speaker 2: pong balls. The number combination. The odds for the worst 1168 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 2: three teams are all the same thing. Number one pick, 1169 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 2: fourteen percent, fourteen percent, fourteen percent. I don't care if 1170 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 2: you finished with the worst record, the second worst record, 1171 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,879 Speaker 2: or the third worst record, you all the same odds. 1172 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 2: If you have the fourth worst record, it's twelve and 1173 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 2: a half percent, and if you go to the fifth 1174 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 2: horse record, it's ten and a half. So I mean, 1175 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 2: think about that. You have a fourteen percent to ten 1176 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:26,320 Speaker 2: percent differential from one to five. That's not that different. 1177 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 2: Obviously it's a little different, but like it's nowhere near 1178 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 2: the difference in the NFL. I believe maintaining a top 1179 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 2: four pick would differ by about ten percent from the 1180 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 2: worst record to the fifth worst record. So again, I 1181 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 2: apologize for throwing a lot of numbers in math at you, 1182 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 2: but it's not like awful awful if you are in 1183 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 2: the boat of like I'd like to see the Pacers 1184 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 2: win these games. 1185 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 8: Now. 1186 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 2: Again, some people saw the Vusovich three go in last 1187 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 2: night and said good entertaining loss. But then others said 1188 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,800 Speaker 2: that I didn't come out to gamebridge Field House and 1189 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 2: the worst whether we've had in years and root for 1190 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 2: a loss. So if you're in that boat, I don't 1191 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:08,879 Speaker 2: think it's the end of the world. 1192 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: Now. 1193 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to see your team 1194 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,399 Speaker 2: win eight of ten all of a sudden or something 1195 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 2: along those lines. But you know, I feel like every 1196 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 2: couple of weeks we just probably have to remind people 1197 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 2: of what the standings look like, what the odds look like, 1198 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 2: you know, And I mean, look at Dallas last year. 1199 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 2: What were their odds before they got good one. 1200 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,800 Speaker 3: I was literally just about to say, Kevin, one point 1201 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 3: eight they were in the play in they were if 1202 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 3: they had beat Sacramento, I believe it was. I think 1203 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 3: they were gonna be in the now they would have 1204 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 3: had to win another game, but they were two games 1205 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,319 Speaker 3: away from making the playoffs at one point eight percent 1206 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 3: chance of getting the first pick, and got it. And 1207 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 3: then you go back two years Kevin the Hawks. It 1208 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 3: was a bad draft, but they had a three percent 1209 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 3: chance and got it. So it's not necessarily guaranteed, uh, 1210 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 3: that you're gonna get the first pick if you have 1211 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 3: one of those three worst records, But I think you're 1212 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 3: guaranteed to be pretty high. 1213 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 2: Right, And yeah, guaranteed is a dangerous word, but yes, 1214 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 2: I pear you out on that. And again, the Pacers 1215 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 2: are eleven and a half games out of the play 1216 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 2: in right now, So for those that are whatever thinking 1217 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 2: that's still a possibility or something along those lines, I 1218 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 2: don't necessarily go down that pass. So, you know, I 1219 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 2: feel like, again every couple of weeks, we just got 1220 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,799 Speaker 2: to update on some things. 1221 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, when I'm looking at the top of the 1222 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,320 Speaker 1: standings coming into the year, we thought it was just 1223 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 1: going to be given that Oklahoma City is going to 1224 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 1: roll and get on this run and be a dominant 1225 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 1: team for the next five six years, that it's always 1226 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 1: going to be around there. Maybe if the Pacers get healthy, 1227 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 1: they could start to challenge them. Wemby and San Antonio, 1228 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 1: they're they're right on, you know, they're right there too. 1229 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: But when you start talking about teams that you think 1230 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 1: can actually realistically win an the NBA Championship this year? Guys, 1231 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 1: is does the list really go for me? I just 1232 00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 1: don't see the Nicks being able to pull it out. 1233 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 1: Maybe if they get women are if they get Jannis? 1234 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:02,919 Speaker 2: Who knows? 1235 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 1: But are there are there even four teams you to 1236 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 1: say to yourself that team could get on a role 1237 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 1: and win an NBA Championship this year? 1238 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,800 Speaker 2: Think it's a huge drop from Oklahoma City. Now, granted, 1239 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 2: what did Denver do last year? Denver took them to 1240 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,240 Speaker 2: seven And when you have a player that's that special 1241 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 2: in Senor Jokic, then you certainly have a chance and 1242 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,359 Speaker 2: they honest Domino now throws everything up in the air. 1243 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 2: I mean, what will happen a week from Thursday? And 1244 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,440 Speaker 2: how much does that impact the Pacers? Well, you know, 1245 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 2: well Scott Agnes joined us here in a little bit. 1246 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 2: Should the Pacers drum up a trade package tree, Honus, 1247 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 2: there's that idiotic? 1248 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 4: What would that even look like? 1249 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:36,399 Speaker 1: Though? 1250 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:38,799 Speaker 4: I mean, what are you gonna have to give up? 1251 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:43,400 Speaker 1: Probably within the Division Salesforce tower like they I can 1252 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 1: imagine the phone call, You're right, the phone call probably 1253 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 1: goes something like, hey. 1254 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 5: George kicking the tires? 1255 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 1: Would you guys be interested in trading honest, and if 1256 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,359 Speaker 1: you're the Bucks, you say, I don't know you're willing 1257 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 1: to give up Tyrese Halliburton. 1258 00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 3: Does John Hall several step in and say no, you 1259 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 3: know what, Yiannis and playing with myself. 1260 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 2: I feel like we haven't seen much of John how 1261 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,240 Speaker 2: I feel like Tyresa's family is still pretty much courtside. 1262 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:07,920 Speaker 2: I feel like we haven't seen much Job this year. 1263 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 2: Maybe saving himself, you know, for the for. 1264 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 4: The playoffs, said the hat on backward last night. You know, 1265 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:13,719 Speaker 4: notice that. 1266 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 2: He's always in off that bench there. Yeah, I mean, 1267 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,799 Speaker 2: in all seriousness, I don't think obviously the Pacers would 1268 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 2: drum up some sort of trade here, But where does 1269 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 2: Giannis go? You know, that's the trade. 1270 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,320 Speaker 4: New York still seems to be the odds on favorite 1271 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:27,320 Speaker 4: get a player. 1272 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 2: Of this magnitude move. Obviously last year we saw with 1273 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,280 Speaker 2: with Luca. But I think maybe even before the Pacers 1274 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 2: do anything tread trade deadline wise, you're going to want 1275 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 2: and see want to see exactly where Giannis goes and 1276 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 2: the trickle down effect off that, because wherever Jannis ends up, 1277 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:45,879 Speaker 2: you have to think there's probably what three or four 1278 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 2: moves just that that that happened off of that. That 1279 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 2: usually happens when you see the big big player get 1280 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 2: moved and and to. 1281 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 3: Your point, Kevin, usually when you have these high salary 1282 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 3: players getting traded, a third team or sometimes even a 1283 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,839 Speaker 3: fourth team has to come in to help facilitate the trade. 1284 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,800 Speaker 3: And the Pacers maybe they don't get you honest, but 1285 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,240 Speaker 3: maybe they're involved in a multiple team trade. 1286 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a good point. And you know, one 1287 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,400 Speaker 2: thing to talk a little Pacers here for just a 1288 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,959 Speaker 2: second in terms of this year and what you're hoping 1289 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 2: for this year. You know, we're now, what about fifty 1290 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 2: games into the Pacers season, and the center position. 1291 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,319 Speaker 5: Is just I mean, what what in the world? I mean, 1292 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 5: no one has emerged at center. 1293 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,040 Speaker 2: I mean, if we were grasping, we'd say Michael Potter 1294 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,839 Speaker 2: right now grasping it. Could Ja Huff be your third 1295 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,919 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe, but like last night, they didn't 1296 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 2: even start a center. They've they've gone small ball more. 1297 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 2: I mean, you would think against Vucevic you would start 1298 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 2: a center, and they didn't even start when last night. 1299 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,320 Speaker 2: So I think that is a disappointing element to the 1300 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,839 Speaker 2: season of like you know, you were hoping, Hey, we'll 1301 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,760 Speaker 2: see about Isaiah Jackson. Hey, we'll see about whatever Wiseman 1302 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 2: or Tony Bradley or you know, Huff, of course, you know, 1303 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 2: and Huff would probably be the one that you would 1304 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 2: go with and say maybe could he be a part 1305 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 2: of your rotation moving forward? But even that I don't 1306 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 2: think is an absolute slam dunk, which I guess by 1307 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 2: I was talking about Ja Huff, I'd say reverse dunk. 1308 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:12,359 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1309 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Texas a sent and said, man, can you imagine 1310 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 1: the Wolves getting the great freak? 1311 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:18,960 Speaker 4: But what would that? What would they? 1312 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, whoever gets and they're gonna have 1313 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 1: to give up not just draft capital, but probably a 1314 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 1: really high quality player. 1315 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 3: You're right, but I also feel like in a lot 1316 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 3: of these you never get equal value. 1317 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 2: Ever, it's so hard. 1318 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,960 Speaker 3: I think, honestly, the only teams that can actually pull 1319 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 3: off equal value in terms of draft picks and young 1320 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 3: players are Oklahoma City and San Antonio. 1321 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 2: Matt says Siaka Matherin in a first rounder for you, honest, 1322 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 2: would you do that? 1323 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,959 Speaker 1: You'd have your honest and Tyrese Halliburton for a while. 1324 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 1: That's hard because you've fallen in love with Siakam and 1325 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 1: he has been. He's been since they acquired him. He's 1326 00:57:58,960 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 1: been their leading scorers. 1327 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 2: Now, your first round pick, you theoretically would still be 1328 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 2: pretty high. I think Giannis walks in here and all 1329 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:11,440 Speaker 2: of a sudden totally changes the season, losing and losing Mathering. 1330 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 5: If we really want to. 1331 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 2: Play out this hypothetical here, let's call it a top 1332 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 2: ten pick. So you're basically trading a top ten pick 1333 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 2: Siakam and Matherin for Yannis. And again, I think a 1334 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 2: lot of pacers out there right now in four sixty 1335 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 2: five that are like that. I just hit an icy spot. 1336 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 2: No chance. 1337 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 4: I think a discussion, guys, just discussion. 1338 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 2: There's a little bit of disdain with Giannis just because 1339 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 2: because of the I don't want to call it Brady 1340 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 2: with the Colts, but like he's kind of you know, 1341 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 2: it's not Lebron with the Heat either, but you know, 1342 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 2: he's kind of been the villain against your team here, 1343 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 2: whether it's intro division obviously the amount of games played, 1344 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 2: but you know, if Janni's played for the Trailblazers and 1345 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 2: you didn't have any of this whatever, I. 1346 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 1: Will say this, outside of the playoff victories over the 1347 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 1: Bucks the last two seasons. It's hard to think of 1348 00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 1: a more satisfying into a game than that falling out 1349 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 1: of bounds three that Tyres buried the Bucks with in 1350 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 1: the regular season. 1351 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 3: The rivalry's over, I mean, I mean it's probably over. 1352 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 3: Last year the Pacers beat the Bucks in the playoffs. 1353 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 3: But like it's done, if you honest, is out of here. 1354 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 2: Like what a run it was. I had fun watching it, 1355 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 2: but it's over. And I guess Miles Turner got what 1356 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 2: he got one dance with a pretty girl. Yeah, he 1357 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 2: walked out there. Finally the pretty girl called him out, 1358 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 2: you know, and said, Okay, I'd like to dance with you. 1359 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:25,680 Speaker 5: But it's just one dance. 1360 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:26,440 Speaker 1: That's it. 1361 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 2: I guess he got his money, which by all means 1362 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 2: but his whole competitive quote, I'm not sure if that's 1363 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 2: gonna be. I'll be curious if Turner is moved at all. 1364 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 2: I don't know Tony E's good by fact check me 1365 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,439 Speaker 2: on that. I't I assume you can be moved even 1366 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 2: after what happened over the offseason. But NBA rules can 1367 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,919 Speaker 2: get really messy in my brain really quickly there. But man, 1368 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 2: that's that's the domino. I think we start there before 1369 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 2: anywhere else here, trade deadline coming up. 1370 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 1: And we bring it up because we Sham's reported this 1371 00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 1: week that he is quote ready for a new home unquote. 1372 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 4: That's Shams. That's so weird, Shams, Sharon. 1373 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 3: I feel like that those words haven't been used for 1374 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 3: stuff like this before, which which makes in that it 1375 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 3: started last summer when Janni's first was rumored he was 1376 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 3: looking to seek a trade. 1377 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 2: It's just that whole thing's weird. But I think it's 1378 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 2: actually gonna happen. What would the poll be on that? 1379 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 4: Bringing Giannis here? 1380 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 2: You got you got access to our fan twitter count 1381 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 2: calib I do throw that pole out there, Siakam Mathern 1382 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 2: throw in first names for for us out there go 1383 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six first rounder. 1384 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,520 Speaker 5: So the juicy of the first rounder for Yannis? Yes, No, 1385 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 5: what do you think? 1386 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 4: I think I think it's gonna be. I think it's 1387 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,440 Speaker 4: gonna be a sixty to forty No. 1388 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at. I think fans 1389 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 2: don't like Yannis, which I don't. I mean, like, here's 1390 01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:57,640 Speaker 2: the other thing. 1391 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 1: How much you also willing to trade and knowing that 1392 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 1: that first year that Tyrees comes back probably the first 1393 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 1: half of the first year. He's probably still going to 1394 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 1: be finding himself a little bit. Yeah, it's gonna be 1395 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,640 Speaker 1: thirty two next year. He still looks pretty fit. I 1396 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 1: think he's still got a couple several good years left. 1397 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, especially in today's NBA, but he 1398 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:17,040 Speaker 1: is over thirty. 1399 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 2: Just throwing that out there, sure, and we've seen some 1400 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 2: injuries pop up. You know again, you want to talk 1401 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 2: about alien, you want to talk about absolute freak of 1402 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:24,760 Speaker 2: nature here. 1403 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:32,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, he's already can you believe already his twelfth season, Caleb, Yeah, I. 1404 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 4: Mean it's it's pretty wild. 1405 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 3: And honestly, when he came out, nobody knew what kind 1406 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 3: of layer he would be calm, and he's one of 1407 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 3: the best stories I think of this era of the NBA, 1408 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 3: just coming from Greece and nobody knew what he could do. 1409 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 3: And man, he's pretty dominant, and I think he wants 1410 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,320 Speaker 3: to win a championship. So somebody could be making a big, 1411 01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 3: big splash and kind of turn this season up on 1412 01:01:58,680 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 3: its head. 1413 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 4: Milwaukee is eighteen and twenty seven. 1414 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 1: They've lost seven of their last ten, and I don't 1415 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 1: think they're going to turn things around while he's on 1416 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 1: the shelf. Do you see he's self diagnosed correctly too, Kevin? 1417 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:10,800 Speaker 4: Did you see that? 1418 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:12,880 Speaker 1: When he first got hurt and they were talking to 1419 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:14,720 Speaker 1: him after the game, he said, Yeah, I did this 1420 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,960 Speaker 1: in my calf. I felt something pop. It's probably gonna 1421 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 1: be they're gonna go in and do an MRI. They're 1422 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,640 Speaker 1: gonna tell me I'm gonna be out four to six weeks. 1423 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,320 Speaker 1: And people are like, man, you just what are you 1424 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:23,919 Speaker 1: talking about. 1425 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:24,680 Speaker 4: You're not a doctor. 1426 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 1: Turns out, after they examined him with an MRI four 1427 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:29,880 Speaker 1: to six weeks, something popped in his calf. 1428 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 4: How crazy is that? 1429 01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 2: Sounds like COVID all over again. Self diagnosed myself. 1430 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 4: How'd that work out? 1431 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 2: Well, you're here, you've heard me the last hour of today. 1432 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 2: I feel like you're you're very worried about my health, 1433 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,480 Speaker 2: which I appreciate. Right now, You're worried about Purdue basketball 1434 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,120 Speaker 2: fans or Purdue fans in general, and. 1435 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm just worried about people, and I'm just trying to 1436 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 1: keep everybody upright and moving forward today. 1437 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. 1438 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,960 Speaker 4: Ye, it's all I'm trying. 1439 01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 2: We all need someone like that in our lives. 1440 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 1: What do you say we check it down right now, man, 1441 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:09,040 Speaker 1: let people know what's going on. I respect your ability 1442 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 1: to fight through. 1443 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 4: At Kevin Bowen more than you know, appreciate it. 1444 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,360 Speaker 1: Baser's rally from fourteen down they get past the Chicago 1445 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:20,160 Speaker 1: Bulls one thirteen, one ten. Last night, Pascal Siakim led 1446 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 1: the way with twenty points, some big plays in the 1447 01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,520 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Jarris Walker added sixteen points. But you were 1448 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 1: not impressed with his overall game last night, Kevin Well, I. 1449 01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 2: Just would like a little bit more in the other stuff, 1450 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 2: you know when I get right now. He's been asked 1451 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:34,920 Speaker 2: to do different things, but you know, play twenty two 1452 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 2: minutes and have a bunch of zeros across the board. 1453 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:38,760 Speaker 2: That's some of the stuff that I think you want. 1454 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,439 Speaker 2: You know, when Haliburton does get back, you're not gonna 1455 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 2: need Jars Walker to be, you know, a twenty point 1456 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 2: guy for you or something along those lines. So you know, 1457 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,440 Speaker 2: maybe I'm nitpicking a little bit here, but not the 1458 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,480 Speaker 2: most important item from last night by any means, but 1459 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 2: just something to keep an eye. 1460 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what. Aaron Eesmith was terrific down 1461 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 4: the stretch. He was making threes. 1462 01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 1: He was driving baseline, he's making pass he's making plays defensively. 1463 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,400 Speaker 1: I mean he put it together in those final two 1464 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:02,320 Speaker 1: and a half three minutes. 1465 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, big drive there, you know on the 1466 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,360 Speaker 2: on the baseline, that's probably a question mark in his 1467 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 2: game in general. And then great help site on the 1468 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,880 Speaker 2: Kobe White drive. They're late to ice it. So you know, 1469 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 2: the Pacers made plays down stretch. Nemhart had a huge bucket, 1470 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,840 Speaker 2: Siakam had that you know tip pass out or the 1471 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 2: tip rebound out. I got swung around with the Jay 1472 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 2: Huff three. That was a huge, huge play. So, you know, 1473 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 2: really nice end game moments to the Pacers. Sometimes you 1474 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 2: see the team make the big run, get back in 1475 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 2: it and then you know, I have vibes of Demato 1476 01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,000 Speaker 2: Rosen on New Year's Eve against the Pacers. So that 1477 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:36,080 Speaker 2: did not happen last. 1478 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,560 Speaker 1: Night Saturday against the Hawks. The next time you will 1479 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 1: be able to see them over at the Fieldhouse. That 1480 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,440 Speaker 1: one will start at seven pm our airtime six thirty 1481 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,800 Speaker 1: here with Pat Boyle and then Pat Boiling and then 1482 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,920 Speaker 1: Mark Boyle will have the play by play along with 1483 01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:53,000 Speaker 1: Eddie beginning at seven o'clock and then we've got college basketball. 1484 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 1: Last night was not a good night for the Butler 1485 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 1: bull Dyings. They'd been on a roll, they'd been doing 1486 01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 1: some things, but then they go on the road. They 1487 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,240 Speaker 1: played twenty fifth ranks Saint John's at Madison Square Garden, 1488 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 1: and they got blown out from beginning to end, ninety. 1489 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 4: Two to seventy. 1490 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,480 Speaker 1: Rick Patino, the coach for Saint John's, honored for getting 1491 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 1: his nine hundredth win the other night against his son, 1492 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 1: Richard Patino at Xavier. 1493 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 4: But Butler not worried about that. They'll try to put 1494 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 4: this behind him. 1495 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,520 Speaker 1: They returned to the Hinkle on Saturday, when they will 1496 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,520 Speaker 1: take on Georgetown try to get back on the winning track. 1497 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:23,960 Speaker 1: I think they have a shot in that game. 1498 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 2: I was sweating watching Butler try to operate the first 1499 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,360 Speaker 2: five minutes last night. It was serating from Saint John's. 1500 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:29,480 Speaker 7: Now. 1501 01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,400 Speaker 2: The end of the game was six turnovers. You'd have 1502 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,800 Speaker 2: told bad Model last night, you're gonna have six turnovers 1503 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 2: in the game. He'd say, hell yeah. Yet they still 1504 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,840 Speaker 2: lose by twenty two. So Evan Haywood was, you know, 1505 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:41,960 Speaker 2: kind of kept him in it early on there. But 1506 01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 2: Saint John's hit a flurry of threes right before half 1507 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,120 Speaker 2: and that one was over. So, as we were talked 1508 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,360 Speaker 2: about with Butler, the Big East doesn't have a ton 1509 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 2: of opportunities. They are outside of the bubble right now, 1510 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,240 Speaker 2: but kind of right in that whatever. You know, first five, 1511 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 2: ten out, they're going to have to beat Yukon again 1512 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,880 Speaker 2: in the second game or at Nova, or win a 1513 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 2: game or two in the Madisons in Masison Square Garden 1514 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,200 Speaker 2: in the b East tournament like that is a must. 1515 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,200 Speaker 2: And then you got a whole serve the others you 1516 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,200 Speaker 2: bring up Saturday at noon. That's one of those you 1517 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:09,840 Speaker 2: got ahold, serf. 1518 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 4: I think I looked last night. 1519 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,920 Speaker 1: I think Saint John's only a game behind Yukon and 1520 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,160 Speaker 1: the Biggie standings. 1521 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,800 Speaker 2: Right, I was reminded last night. Oh yeah, they wore 1522 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:20,600 Speaker 2: preseason rank top what five, and they've won like seven 1523 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 2: in a row, eight in a row, so maybe they're 1524 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:23,919 Speaker 2: starting to get their act together. 1525 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:24,600 Speaker 1: All right. 1526 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,080 Speaker 4: We've got IU trying to build on their win over Purdue. 1527 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,920 Speaker 1: They will play Saturday at UCLA and Purdue will try 1528 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 1: and rebound at Maryland Sunday at one. You can watch 1529 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,000 Speaker 1: that one on CBS. Notre Dame. We'll play Saturday at 1530 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,840 Speaker 1: Syracuse six pm on the cw AH. They were this 1531 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,520 Speaker 1: close to getting that big win over Virginia, Kevin. 1532 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:45,000 Speaker 4: This close. 1533 01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 5: Appreciate you bringing it up. 1534 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,680 Speaker 1: Well, you were there, you had a great time. You 1535 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,360 Speaker 1: and Rake had a great time. And tell the very 1536 01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:51,160 Speaker 1: very end, I. 1537 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,080 Speaker 2: Made a video of me and Rake from the trip. 1538 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 2: Did you see that? 1539 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 4: I have not seen that video, Caleb, have you seen 1540 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:57,520 Speaker 4: that video? 1541 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,800 Speaker 3: I did sell them in the video special edde Skills 1542 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:02,200 Speaker 3: by Kevin There. 1543 01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 2: This's good recap. 1544 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 4: I liked it nice. 1545 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,240 Speaker 1: We've got the Hall of Fame controversy, of course, with 1546 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,400 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick reportedly not getting in on the first ballot. However, 1547 01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 1: there are still some cults to keep an eye on 1548 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 1: this weekend, Reggie Wayne, Adam Vinentieri, and former cult Frank Gore. 1549 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,040 Speaker 4: Is Frank Gore like one of. 1550 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:26,280 Speaker 1: The most highly respected players amongst players ever in the 1551 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 1: history of the NFL. 1552 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love me so. 1553 01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:29,840 Speaker 5: I hope Max Bowen has some Frank core. 1554 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,960 Speaker 4: And that's a that's terrific. I think he could still 1555 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,000 Speaker 4: get two and a half yards of carry right now 1556 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 4: the league. 1557 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:39,960 Speaker 2: I know it's funny. I feel like he could, yeah, 1558 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 2: rush for eighty one yards on eighteen carries Tomorrow. By 1559 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,600 Speaker 2: the way, I'm getting bored that Rosie Bowen might have 1560 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:49,640 Speaker 2: heard the red garter segment. Rosie Bowened it it was 1561 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 2: a little confused on why her mother was being brought 1562 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,800 Speaker 2: up there. So, oh, maybe I should root more for 1563 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,160 Speaker 2: the two hour delays so my kids aren't necessarily hearing well. 1564 01:07:58,200 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 4: Hello, Rosie, we hope you have a terrific day. 1565 01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:01,280 Speaker 5: I love you, Rosie. 1566 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,120 Speaker 4: Look right there you go other NFL. 1567 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:05,040 Speaker 2: I'll explain it later. 1568 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,880 Speaker 1: Todd Munkin is now the head coach for the Cleveland Browns. 1569 01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:11,840 Speaker 1: And there's your head coaches that have been hired in 1570 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,240 Speaker 1: the cycle. Now. John Harbaugh has gone to the Giants, 1571 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,639 Speaker 1: ke Kevin Stefanski, the former Browns coach, goes to Atlanta, 1572 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:23,960 Speaker 1: Jeff Halfley to Miami, Robert Sala in Tennessee, Jesse Mentor 1573 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:28,680 Speaker 1: to Baltimore, Mike McCarthy to Pittsburgh, Joe Brady promoted from 1574 01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,599 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator to head coach at Buffalo, and now Todd 1575 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:36,000 Speaker 1: Munkin to Cleveland. That means Las Vegas and Arizona are 1576 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,280 Speaker 1: still looking for head coaches. Las Vegas is the number 1577 01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:45,240 Speaker 1: one overall pick, presumptively Fernando Mendoza, Vegas and Arizona still 1578 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,160 Speaker 1: can't land a coach at this point. 1579 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,000 Speaker 2: In time, Kevin, are they waiting for Super Bowl people? 1580 01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,400 Speaker 2: Maybe Clint Kubiak? 1581 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,519 Speaker 5: Is that the name THEOC there in Seattle? 1582 01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:59,960 Speaker 2: M HM. Jim Bob Cooter ESPN reported yesterday in person 1583 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 2: an interview for the OC job there in Philly's got 1584 01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,960 Speaker 2: some history with Nick Siriani. So we'll see if Jim 1585 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,040 Speaker 2: Bob Kuter leaves the Colts to go call plays, that 1586 01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,839 Speaker 2: would be the appeal there as he is the offensive coordinator. 1587 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,880 Speaker 2: Of course, here in India, I don't think by any 1588 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,479 Speaker 2: means the end of the world, but we really haven't 1589 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:19,280 Speaker 2: had boy. I I feel like you haven't had any 1590 01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:23,439 Speaker 2: offensive staff turnover in the Stiking era. Pretty unusual really 1591 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,280 Speaker 2: for any NFL team to go three years, potentially a 1592 01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,680 Speaker 2: fourth year without one side of the ball having any 1593 01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,920 Speaker 2: sort of staff turnover. So I think that will be 1594 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:32,639 Speaker 2: something to keep an eye on here as it looks 1595 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,040 Speaker 2: like the Eagles are moving forward with some of those 1596 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:35,879 Speaker 2: OC interviews. 1597 01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,920 Speaker 1: I saw Nathan Bairrett in The Star this morning reporting 1598 01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,839 Speaker 1: the Perdue Athletics is operating at a surplus despite spending 1599 01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,200 Speaker 1: more produce. Athletic revenues rose to one hundred and fifty 1600 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,200 Speaker 1: and a half million in twenty four to twenty five. 1601 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,240 Speaker 4: A lot of that had to do with Big ten 1602 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:51,040 Speaker 4: meteor Rightes. 1603 01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:55,760 Speaker 1: The athletic department expenses did increase by fourteen percent, but 1604 01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,439 Speaker 1: that outpaced revenue growth. But still there, they're on the 1605 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,000 Speaker 1: right side of things that produ there. 1606 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,599 Speaker 5: So now you're trying to go on the opposite. 1607 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,479 Speaker 1: Reading the headlines from today, just throw something else in there. 1608 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,439 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get everybody back from the brink over there. 1609 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:13,160 Speaker 2: That's all shout out to Bud freakin' right. Cannot believe this. 1610 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,360 Speaker 2: When Colin dender RiPP had the story yesterday at eighty 1611 01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,880 Speaker 2: five years old, that man is going to coach high 1612 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:23,160 Speaker 2: school football for another season Southwood, I feel like I've 1613 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 2: passed that. 1614 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:23,760 Speaker 7: Is it? 1615 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,040 Speaker 2: Is it by Honeywell Golf Course up there in the Wabash, 1616 01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,559 Speaker 2: like I've seen it up there on those county roads. 1617 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, he's making the drive sixty some miles from 1618 01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,040 Speaker 2: Shardan to Southwood to coach high school football at the 1619 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:39,320 Speaker 2: age of eighty five, four hundred and sixty four all 1620 01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,040 Speaker 2: time wins for Bud Larry Bud Wright. 1621 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:43,280 Speaker 5: I believe that's his real name. 1622 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:43,760 Speaker 4: More to come. 1623 01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:45,760 Speaker 5: How about that? What are you going to be doing 1624 01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:46,360 Speaker 5: at eighty five? 1625 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,679 Speaker 4: Hopefully I'm still here. That's my that's my first thought 1626 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 4: right there. 1627 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:52,760 Speaker 5: That's fair by the way. 1628 01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,479 Speaker 2: He's speaking eighty five. I saw Digger the other night. 1629 01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 2: He looked great. 1630 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,960 Speaker 4: I was asking about him. Is he still does he 1631 01:10:58,040 --> 01:10:59,320 Speaker 4: still carry highlighters around? 1632 01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:00,920 Speaker 2: He looked good. I didn't, you know, I didn't reach 1633 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 2: look in his pockets or anything. Seven the highlight right there. 1634 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 1: But I'm on the outside of the pocket there, on 1635 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,080 Speaker 1: the on the shirt or whatever, so I look good. 1636 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,759 Speaker 1: All right, that's what's happening in the world of sports. 1637 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,599 Speaker 1: We've got some pacers basketball to talk about. 1638 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,599 Speaker 2: Can I laugh? Just a one quote that I saw 1639 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,160 Speaker 2: in the UNRIP article, Yeah it was, but right had 1640 01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,120 Speaker 2: the quote of I just had that itch. How many 1641 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:21,600 Speaker 2: eighty five year olds could relate to that? 1642 01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:24,960 Speaker 1: I can't speak for them. 1643 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,559 Speaker 4: Anything, Caleb, I got sixty years before I can answer 1644 01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:31,080 Speaker 4: that question. 1645 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,880 Speaker 2: I feel like Mark Dykin would have some sounder ready 1646 01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,040 Speaker 2: to go off of that. I needed a little bit 1647 01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:38,599 Speaker 2: of backup there. I just can't be on an island 1648 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 2: by myself. We did leave to dry. 1649 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 4: I don't know what, dude, what do you say? 1650 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,160 Speaker 2: How do you speak for eighty five year olds? Like 1651 01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,559 Speaker 2: I'm asking Rick Carlobuen's going to Notre Dame Virginia game 1652 01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:45,960 Speaker 2: next year? 1653 01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:51,120 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not saying no. Uh, We're gonna check the 1654 01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,719 Speaker 1: Fieldhouse files in scott Agnes. Next, it's the Morning Show 1655 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:56,640 Speaker 1: ninety three five and one O seven five of the 1656 01:11:56,720 --> 01:12:02,040 Speaker 1: Fan Kevin Bow, Will you read that little weather screen 1657 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:02,960 Speaker 1: for me real quick? 1658 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,040 Speaker 4: What does that say? Does that seem right? 1659 01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:07,920 Speaker 2: Negative? Two? Am I reading that right? 1660 01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:09,800 Speaker 4: Negative two degrees outside? 1661 01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:14,439 Speaker 1: Right? Now? That's just wrong. It just feels wrong, doesn't it. 1662 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,880 Speaker 1: My goodness, stay warm today whatever you're doing. Although it 1663 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,200 Speaker 1: did seem like the streets are drying out a little bit, 1664 01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:23,320 Speaker 1: but you never know. The ice is everywhere, so keep 1665 01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:24,320 Speaker 1: that in mind as always. 1666 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:25,960 Speaker 4: You know what to do. You've driven in this before. 1667 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 1: In the meantime, nice nice win for the Indiana Pacers 1668 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,880 Speaker 1: last night at the field House. They came from fourteen 1669 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,880 Speaker 1: behind in the fourth quarter to knock off the Chicago Bulls, 1670 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,160 Speaker 1: a team they seem to do well against this year. 1671 01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:40,920 Speaker 4: And here to tell us more about that and tell. 1672 01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,840 Speaker 1: Us what lies ahead over the next two three weeks 1673 01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,240 Speaker 1: for the Indiana Pacers. Man who covers them every night 1674 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 1: on the Fieldhouse Files, Our good friend Scott Agnes joins 1675 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,320 Speaker 1: us on the Payless Liquors hotline. I hope it's warm 1676 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,839 Speaker 1: in your apartment, because, man, I feel bad for anybody 1677 01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,960 Speaker 1: who may lose power or anything like that or has 1678 01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,479 Speaker 1: to walk outside. And Scott, I want you to be 1679 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 1: safe and warm. That's my job today is keeping everybody 1680 01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,200 Speaker 1: safe and warm and happy. I'm trying to uplift Purdue fans. 1681 01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,639 Speaker 1: Keep you guys warm, keep everybody in the sunshine today. 1682 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,040 Speaker 8: Okay with that I do, I am, I appreciate it, 1683 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,799 Speaker 8: but I agree these temperatures are observed. I can't remember 1684 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,120 Speaker 8: a run like this in my lifetime here in Central 1685 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 8: Indiana at all. 1686 01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,920 Speaker 1: So, man, how about the run for the Pacers last 1687 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,840 Speaker 1: night with about seven minutes to go? 1688 01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:25,880 Speaker 4: Do we see that coming? 1689 01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,519 Speaker 8: Not particularly given this group, right, like all the different 1690 01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,080 Speaker 8: things that they have been through and such. But what 1691 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,080 Speaker 8: I mean when you do factor it, look last year, 1692 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,640 Speaker 8: this is what their seasons were made of. Like they 1693 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,880 Speaker 8: just had some kind of spirit and fight every single 1694 01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,760 Speaker 8: game that they were able to make a run out 1695 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,240 Speaker 8: of it, and that's what made. 1696 01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,120 Speaker 6: The end of their season so magical. But to me, 1697 01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:52,400 Speaker 6: it was just so many different guys playing their role 1698 01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,639 Speaker 6: that stood out to me. No one more than anyone, 1699 01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,120 Speaker 6: you know, jumped out or stood out, I. 1700 01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,479 Speaker 8: Would say, But you know, Mathering got them started in 1701 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,920 Speaker 8: that third quarter, and then they hunkered down there in 1702 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,080 Speaker 8: the fourth and made something of it with that big 1703 01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 8: eighteen to four run to close in a game they 1704 01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,720 Speaker 8: really never really led until the very end. 1705 01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't lead until the final minute there after a 1706 01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,400 Speaker 2: brief lead in the first quarter. Scott agnesfield House Files 1707 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:22,719 Speaker 2: you can find is excellent Workpacers and Fever coverage from Scott's. Okay, 1708 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,519 Speaker 2: let's talk about the news of the day yesterday in 1709 01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,559 Speaker 2: the NBA and Giannis and potentially a trade. We are 1710 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,960 Speaker 2: now seven days away, a week from today from the 1711 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:33,240 Speaker 2: NBA trade deadline. Do you think league wide will kind 1712 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:36,320 Speaker 2: of be in a frozen state? I guess whether enter 1713 01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:40,439 Speaker 2: your punt here until the Jannist domino falls or doesn't fall. 1714 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,240 Speaker 8: I think to some extent, those that are big game punting, 1715 01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:47,600 Speaker 8: that does make sense. But those like the Pacers that 1716 01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,640 Speaker 8: need to go get a center or things like that 1717 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,920 Speaker 8: I don't know how much of a direct impact that 1718 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,360 Speaker 8: couldn't necessarily have, but yeah, absolutely, if you're one of 1719 01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,599 Speaker 8: those main teams and you're interested in trying to play 1720 01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,640 Speaker 8: play in that game with Yannis, that's gonna have some 1721 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 8: kind of impact. But I don't think it's a given 1722 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,679 Speaker 8: that he's going to be traded by this trade deadline. Certainly, 1723 01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:15,240 Speaker 8: all indications are that relationship is getting towards the end. 1724 01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:19,400 Speaker 8: But if I'm Milwaukee there, I'm sitting back and weighing 1725 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,960 Speaker 8: my options, and maybe it'd be better to get to 1726 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:25,839 Speaker 8: the summer when you have more know how of exactly 1727 01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,519 Speaker 8: what picks would look like and those sort of things. 1728 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,639 Speaker 8: So John Horst has his handful there in Milwaukee. 1729 01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,960 Speaker 2: Scott, I know you like hypothetical trades as much as 1730 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 2: the weather outside, So bear with me here a week 1731 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,120 Speaker 2: before the trade deadline. But we had a listener bring 1732 01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:45,519 Speaker 2: up earlier in the show a potential trade of Pascal 1733 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:50,040 Speaker 2: Siakam Benedict Matheren the twenty twenty six first round pick 1734 01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:55,719 Speaker 2: of the Pacers for Jannis. If you presented that trade 1735 01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,880 Speaker 2: to the Pacers, what do you think they're responsibly. 1736 01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,360 Speaker 8: I think it would be very difficult for them to 1737 01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,479 Speaker 8: part with Pascal given what he's done. 1738 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,400 Speaker 6: But I think you do that one hundred. 1739 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:12,240 Speaker 8: Times out of one hundred, how little that is, in 1740 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,160 Speaker 8: my opinion, I think you're gonna see teams move a 1741 01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,479 Speaker 8: lot of assets to go and get Yannis, so one 1742 01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:19,719 Speaker 8: of a kind type of players. 1743 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,040 Speaker 6: So if it was just that, I think you would 1744 01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,559 Speaker 6: jump at it, even at the age of thirty two. 1745 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 8: I mean, look, Lebron's playing at forty one, Like if 1746 01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:29,040 Speaker 8: you can get five. 1747 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,920 Speaker 6: Good years at Yanni's, which is no reason to think that. 1748 01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean Pascal himself is like thirty one right now, 1749 01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,479 Speaker 8: by the way, and they have no Yeah, I would 1750 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,160 Speaker 8: have no urgency or interest in trading Pascal. But when 1751 01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:45,960 Speaker 8: it's just those and this hypothetical trade, yeah, you're. 1752 01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:46,800 Speaker 6: One hundred percent doing that. 1753 01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 4: Now we're doing hypotheticals. But here's the other part of 1754 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:49,400 Speaker 4: it too. 1755 01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:53,000 Speaker 1: Let's say that the Pacers had pretty much everything that 1756 01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 1: the Bucks wanted. Are they trading Giannis to the Indiana 1757 01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:57,759 Speaker 1: Pacers within the division? 1758 01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:00,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't imagine it. 1759 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,960 Speaker 8: Like tradition, traditionally, you'd say no, like you try to, 1760 01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,040 Speaker 8: you would send you know, Milwaukee would want to move 1761 01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:08,960 Speaker 8: on from Yannis and send him out west, right, so 1762 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,360 Speaker 8: you see him just once a year in Milwaukee and 1763 01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,320 Speaker 8: certain things like that. But I think it's gonna come 1764 01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,680 Speaker 8: down to the trade package. And also, here's the other 1765 01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,479 Speaker 8: underlying thing in all this. When you're a superstar at 1766 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:24,880 Speaker 8: this talent, you have some say and so all all 1767 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,920 Speaker 8: signals for you from jannas seem to be pointed towards 1768 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:28,479 Speaker 8: New York. 1769 01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,000 Speaker 6: Now, whill they come through and keep him in conference 1770 01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:32,639 Speaker 6: and such? We'll see. 1771 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,920 Speaker 8: But yeah, you're totally right, Jeb. Generally, no, you send 1772 01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:37,839 Speaker 8: them out to a different conference. 1773 01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,000 Speaker 2: In fact, so you see him less a man that 1774 01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:43,400 Speaker 2: is best in the glory of the IU athletic run. 1775 01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,160 Speaker 2: Here he is, Scott Agnes, he's with us here on 1776 01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,160 Speaker 2: the payless liquors hotline. Okay, Scott one more in the 1777 01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,400 Speaker 2: trade front from me, Bendick Matherd and Jarris Walker are 1778 01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,280 Speaker 2: seemingly the two names we've discussed the most mathering more 1779 01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:55,759 Speaker 2: than Walker. 1780 01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:56,240 Speaker 5: Certainly. 1781 01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,600 Speaker 2: Is there anyone else on this roster we haven't discussed that. 1782 01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:03,439 Speaker 2: You're a curious about a week from today. Again, from 1783 01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,560 Speaker 2: a contract expiring standpoint, I don't think there's anybody that 1784 01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,880 Speaker 2: jumps off the page, but I don't know if the 1785 01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,400 Speaker 2: center position has really done much here fifty games into 1786 01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,719 Speaker 2: the season. Tij McConnell and Obi Toppen people have debated 1787 01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:20,840 Speaker 2: those contracts, but anyone else non matherin non Walker division. Yeah, 1788 01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:21,960 Speaker 2: right now, not really. 1789 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,000 Speaker 8: It'll obviously there would be an impact if they did 1790 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,400 Speaker 8: go out and do something at that center spot, because 1791 01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:33,000 Speaker 8: then you wouldn't need an additional one. Although Tony Bradley's 1792 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,040 Speaker 8: second ten day contract is now finalized and fan should know, 1793 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,760 Speaker 8: you can't sign a third ten day contract with the 1794 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:42,479 Speaker 8: same team in a season, so they would have to 1795 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,080 Speaker 8: sign him to a more of a standard type deal 1796 01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,320 Speaker 8: if they choose to bring him back here. But no, 1797 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,280 Speaker 8: there's no obvious names or anything like that. I think 1798 01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,040 Speaker 8: it would be all the matter if they're able to 1799 01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:56,200 Speaker 8: upgrade a position and what level of assets it would take. 1800 01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,640 Speaker 8: But I don't see McConnell going anywhere. I do not 1801 01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:04,680 Speaker 8: see Topping going anywhere for example. No, yeah, it's it's 1802 01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,360 Speaker 8: right now, as you know as well as anyone. It's 1803 01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,800 Speaker 8: rumor central on who's talking to who, And I'm just 1804 01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:15,599 Speaker 8: waiting Kevin for the tweet that you know the Milwaukee 1805 01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,920 Speaker 8: Bucks are fielding phone calls. There's a significant interest in 1806 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:23,320 Speaker 8: this player. Yeah, no, kidding like that general tweet is 1807 01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,120 Speaker 8: usually sent out there by somebody talking. 1808 01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:27,479 Speaker 4: To Scott agnesfield House Finals. 1809 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:31,080 Speaker 1: Here on the Payless Liquors Hotline the Fan Morning Show, 1810 01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,800 Speaker 1: we look at the rest of the the division and 1811 01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:38,280 Speaker 1: specifically the Eastern Conference. Is there a true contender to 1812 01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,120 Speaker 1: any of the top two or three teams in the 1813 01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:40,840 Speaker 1: West right now? 1814 01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,160 Speaker 6: I don't think when you compare to the West, No, 1815 01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,920 Speaker 6: not at all. New York could. 1816 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,200 Speaker 8: Get hot, could be that team if they can, you know, 1817 01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,840 Speaker 8: stay injury free. That's something that's really hampered them a 1818 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:55,160 Speaker 8: lot in the last year or two. 1819 01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:56,720 Speaker 6: Boston we know what kind of. 1820 01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:02,160 Speaker 8: Fight they could provide, but without Tatum, realistically, I don't 1821 01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,600 Speaker 8: see it to Droids in that first year. So I 1822 01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,479 Speaker 8: see them winning a series or two, but this being 1823 01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:11,240 Speaker 8: their learning here for a big run potentially next season. 1824 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,240 Speaker 8: And then Cleveland continues to be a disappointment with Philadelphia 1825 01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,800 Speaker 8: to me, and so no, I do not see a 1826 01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,400 Speaker 8: major contender out in the East. I think it's Oklahoma 1827 01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:20,360 Speaker 8: City and then the field. 1828 01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,400 Speaker 1: Last thing too, Any thoughts on Caitlyn Clark getting ready 1829 01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:27,519 Speaker 1: to make her appearance on Basketball Night in America on 1830 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:28,840 Speaker 1: NBC coming up on Sunday. 1831 01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,320 Speaker 8: I do tons of them, but from her standpoint, I 1832 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:35,600 Speaker 8: would I'm a little bit surprised, only because obviously she 1833 01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,320 Speaker 8: has a pick of whatever she wants, right like which 1834 01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,439 Speaker 8: TV network would not want her. But I think she 1835 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:46,920 Speaker 8: sees this position with NBC, a network that's just taking 1836 01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:51,840 Speaker 8: over some NBA and WNBA rights, and you know, this 1837 01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:55,280 Speaker 8: gives her an opportunity for a low commitment, big opportunity, 1838 01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,360 Speaker 8: just like kind of Michael Jordan had, but in a 1839 01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:01,080 Speaker 8: different way. The only unique challenging aspect, Jeff, I see 1840 01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,920 Speaker 8: is when you're out doing a road show, as you 1841 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,839 Speaker 8: know very well, that's very unique and can be challenging 1842 01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,000 Speaker 8: if you got all these people bothering you or yelling 1843 01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,800 Speaker 8: at you, like she might hear at Madison Square Garden. 1844 01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:14,880 Speaker 8: But to get into TV, this will be easy to 1845 01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:17,479 Speaker 8: talk on set, to make conversation, to talk ball. 1846 01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:19,280 Speaker 6: I think she'll do phenomenally well. 1847 01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,280 Speaker 8: She's better than some of these players that are thirty 1848 01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,280 Speaker 8: five and forty, and she just turned twenty four this week. 1849 01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,400 Speaker 1: Now, I ask you this with my fever hat on 1850 01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,200 Speaker 1: this morning, what are the chances at this point in time, 1851 01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,519 Speaker 1: as you see it, that we have a WNBA season 1852 01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:33,360 Speaker 1: that starts on time. 1853 01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, we're getting in my opinion, Jeff, I think we're 1854 01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:39,880 Speaker 8: getting to the point here where you have like a 1855 01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,519 Speaker 8: couple more weeks and then it is danger zone. 1856 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:44,879 Speaker 6: I think we're less than one hundred days. 1857 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:48,559 Speaker 8: Out from the schedule that they have already put out here, 1858 01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:52,200 Speaker 8: and there seems to be no progress, and the WNBA 1859 01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:56,160 Speaker 8: has not gone back to the players Association for more conversation. 1860 01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:58,560 Speaker 8: At some point they just got to be locked in 1861 01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,800 Speaker 8: a room for an extended week and figure this out 1862 01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:03,679 Speaker 8: or else there's going to be a lot. 1863 01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:04,639 Speaker 6: Of contingency plans. 1864 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:08,800 Speaker 8: So right now I would say you're getting in high 1865 01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:10,599 Speaker 8: risk mode of being delayed. 1866 01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:13,599 Speaker 1: All right, buddy, as always, great info, Thanks for spending 1867 01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,439 Speaker 1: time with us, putting up with my nonsense, and we'll 1868 01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:16,000 Speaker 1: talk to you soon. 1869 01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,519 Speaker 6: Absolutely, stay warm, you got here, you go. 1870 01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:21,400 Speaker 1: Scott Agnes on the Payless Liquors Hotline right there, a 1871 01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,839 Speaker 1: little gut punch when he was talking about the Cleveland Cavaliers. 1872 01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,479 Speaker 4: There, I saw you visibly kind of recoil back there. 1873 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,280 Speaker 4: I nodded, I nodded along. It has been a disappointing season. 1874 01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,840 Speaker 2: He's right. I don't know if Caleb is messing around 1875 01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:36,920 Speaker 2: the pole, but it's not exactly sixty forty, but pretty 1876 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,680 Speaker 2: close so far. Caleb put this poll out, would you 1877 01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,960 Speaker 2: trade Pascal Siakam, Benedict Matheren and that twenty twenty six 1878 01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,400 Speaker 2: first round pick four Giannis? I believe Scott said one 1879 01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,040 Speaker 2: hundred times out of one hundred he did, would do it? 1880 01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:51,280 Speaker 2: Pacers fans not in that boat at all? Right now? 1881 01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:55,920 Speaker 2: Seventy percent saying no. And again I think some of 1882 01:22:56,000 --> 01:23:00,799 Speaker 2: the stems from Jannis is like you're too us the situation, 1883 01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,240 Speaker 2: like if Yannis played for the Trailblazers and did everything 1884 01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,240 Speaker 2: he's done with the Trailblazers, and like he had whatever 1885 01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:12,120 Speaker 2: beef with the Sacramento Kings, you know, and their version 1886 01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,960 Speaker 2: of John Halliburton. I don't know if Pacers fans would 1887 01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,960 Speaker 2: be that demonstrative with the pole, but you know, and 1888 01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,479 Speaker 2: we should mention. I mean, you know, you are looking 1889 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:22,439 Speaker 2: at potentially a top five, top ten picks. I don't 1890 01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,640 Speaker 2: know if that's influenced that because some people could look 1891 01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:29,360 Speaker 2: at and say, hey, Matherin might walk Anyways, Siakam is 1892 01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:33,160 Speaker 2: the same age as Jannis is Scott brought up. You know, 1893 01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,400 Speaker 2: are you really looking at just that dangling carrot of 1894 01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:37,320 Speaker 2: a top five, top ten pick. 1895 01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:40,360 Speaker 3: By the way, I plugged it in trade machine because 1896 01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,719 Speaker 3: I know the NBA salaries can be lucky and the rules. 1897 01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:47,400 Speaker 2: It works, Oh, it it works. So we're we're good there, 1898 01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,639 Speaker 2: all right, we're cooking with a little bit of grease. 1899 01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,000 Speaker 1: Look, people try to put those trades together all the time. 1900 01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:53,560 Speaker 1: You just came up with that off the top of 1901 01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:55,200 Speaker 1: your head and it plugs right into the trail. 1902 01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,840 Speaker 2: All credit to Matt listener, Matt, he's the one that 1903 01:23:57,960 --> 01:23:58,280 Speaker 2: chimed in. 1904 01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:00,600 Speaker 1: Maybe Matt's been playing around with that tree machine for 1905 01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:04,559 Speaker 1: a while, right, all right, coming up in a few minutes, 1906 01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,880 Speaker 1: we'll also talk football with Zach Kiefer, the athletic. That'll 1907 01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:09,880 Speaker 1: be exciting and see what he's up to, because he's 1908 01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:11,759 Speaker 1: always up to he's always working. 1909 01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,120 Speaker 4: On some amazing piece. 1910 01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,200 Speaker 1: We'll find out what he's up to these days, and 1911 01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,720 Speaker 1: we'll get some of your comments and feedback At two three, 1912 01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,120 Speaker 1: nine ten seventy In a moment, it's the Fan Morning 1913 01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:21,960 Speaker 1: Show ninety three five one oh seven to five of 1914 01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:26,320 Speaker 1: the Fan. We've been talking about basketball all morning long, 1915 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,880 Speaker 1: and there was slight reference made to it by Scott 1916 01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,799 Speaker 1: Agnes a moment ago. Do you see that Jason Tatum 1917 01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,400 Speaker 1: is waiting to make a call on whether to return 1918 01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,280 Speaker 1: this season. Is he's another guy trying to come back 1919 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:41,080 Speaker 1: from an achilles problem right now? And is it one 1920 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:44,840 Speaker 1: of those things where it's more about how I'm feeling, 1921 01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,320 Speaker 1: or do I think that if I return late in 1922 01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,559 Speaker 1: the season, after another couple of months, I can really 1923 01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,160 Speaker 1: help the Celtics. It's kind of interesting. I would imagine 1924 01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:53,479 Speaker 1: it's just about his health, right. 1925 01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,639 Speaker 2: I'm glad the Pacers aren't in that boat. I'm glad 1926 01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,960 Speaker 2: we're not doing the dangling Tyrese Halliburton. No, wait, it'll maybe, 1927 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,439 Speaker 2: uh you know what about fifteen minutes off the bench 1928 01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:04,080 Speaker 2: and you know, a playoff. 1929 01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he was injured about a month earlier than Tyree. 1930 01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,680 Speaker 2: Still I'm good, you know. Honestly, the Daniel Jones thing, 1931 01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:11,160 Speaker 2: I think he'll be interesting in this fall. 1932 01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:11,559 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1933 01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,680 Speaker 2: I will repeat myself a lot here over the next 1934 01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,120 Speaker 2: six or seven months. To me, there's two different Daniel 1935 01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:20,960 Speaker 2: Jones questions. One when is he cleared, which is kind 1936 01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:22,840 Speaker 2: of the obvious. One like When when can he play 1937 01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:25,200 Speaker 2: a football game with a red jersey off? Two? 1938 01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:28,920 Speaker 5: When can he move like Daniel Jones? 1939 01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:32,360 Speaker 2: Because he didn't move there for about a month like 1940 01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:37,040 Speaker 2: he can and that's when the Colts downside kind of 1941 01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:40,280 Speaker 2: started there. So to me, those are two very different questions. 1942 01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,160 Speaker 2: And again we're talking Daniel Jones in kind of a 1943 01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:45,400 Speaker 2: nine month radius. I mean, what Halliburtn's at what month 1944 01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:45,800 Speaker 2: right now? 1945 01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:46,160 Speaker 3: It was? 1946 01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,320 Speaker 2: That was June last year, So what do we had? 1947 01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,360 Speaker 2: Seven months? Eight months something like that? 1948 01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:55,000 Speaker 3: I think he said months on that thirty one weeks, yeah, 1949 01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:56,160 Speaker 3: thirty one weeks as well. 1950 01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,719 Speaker 2: So and he mentioned he told the story that Caleb 1951 01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,400 Speaker 2: is referencing there where bened Nick Mathern kind of blew 1952 01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:05,919 Speaker 2: by him in an attempt to, you know, guard Matherin 1953 01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:10,880 Speaker 2: the other day in practice. So again that's what eight months. 1954 01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:13,879 Speaker 2: And again, you know, comparing basketball and football and torn achilles, 1955 01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:15,560 Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. I don't want to act like 1956 01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,200 Speaker 2: I'm wearing a doctor hat, but I guess I am. 1957 01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:19,720 Speaker 2: You know you're gonna ask Daniel Jones to do something 1958 01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:22,240 Speaker 2: very similar, right, I mean it's gonna be about nine months, 1959 01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,360 Speaker 2: ten months maybe when Daniel Jones is asked to go 1960 01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,960 Speaker 2: play week one. Is he going to be more stationary 1961 01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:30,080 Speaker 2: for the first month or so of the season, and 1962 01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:33,040 Speaker 2: how does that impact him if he is, again, you know, 1963 01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,320 Speaker 2: playing defense in the NBA and playing quarterback or not. 1964 01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,519 Speaker 2: Apples to apples. But you know, the Colts won one 1965 01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,240 Speaker 2: game over the final two months of the season, and 1966 01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,920 Speaker 2: I would argue that one win was largely because of 1967 01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,639 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones's ability to make some plays with his legs 1968 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,639 Speaker 2: in Atlanta or I should say, in Germany against Atlanta. 1969 01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you start looking at Tyrese Holliburton. 1970 01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,439 Speaker 1: He put out a video about week thirty one what 1971 01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,679 Speaker 1: he's doing right now too, which is kind of interesting. 1972 01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:59,880 Speaker 1: But he still has right now, probably to true true 1973 01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:04,559 Speaker 1: NBA competition, another eight months right before he really starts 1974 01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:05,840 Speaker 1: ramping up for that eight nine. 1975 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:09,560 Speaker 2: I mean again, you're looking at a much longer timescale 1976 01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,160 Speaker 2: for Tyres than Daniel. 1977 01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:12,439 Speaker 1: J And not imagine he'll be running up and down 1978 01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,400 Speaker 1: the floor if he's doing what he's doing now at 1979 01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:16,519 Speaker 1: thirty one weeks. By the time June July gets around 1980 01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,720 Speaker 1: and guys are playing pickup games NBA pickup games in 1981 01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:21,720 Speaker 1: the summer. I would imagine you start to do a 1982 01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:23,640 Speaker 1: little bit of that type of still probably in a 1983 01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:24,599 Speaker 1: more controlled setting. 1984 01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:26,920 Speaker 2: Jeff, tell me if you're familiar with any of these people, 1985 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:37,800 Speaker 2: Elvis Smiley, No, Victor Perez, Lorie Kanter, Young, Hans Song, Scott, 1986 01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:52,040 Speaker 2: Vincent Ben and you see Asgie, Bjorn Helligrin, Thomas de Tree, Caleb. 1987 01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,600 Speaker 3: Do you have any idea When you said Bjorn, I 1988 01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,320 Speaker 3: was like, wait, Werner, Oh wait, okay, Yeah. 1989 01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,960 Speaker 5: If I'm looking at the spelling, it's it's very similar. 1990 01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,800 Speaker 2: So it's the only born I know. So nothing on 1991 01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:03,200 Speaker 2: that end. 1992 01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,240 Speaker 1: Are we talking about the potential Olympic ski jumpers here? 1993 01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:06,920 Speaker 4: What are we talking? 1994 01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,679 Speaker 2: Have you heard of Brooks Kopko or Patrick Reid? 1995 01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:12,920 Speaker 1: Have heard of those two? Are you talking about other 1996 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:14,000 Speaker 1: members of the Live Tour? 1997 01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:18,559 Speaker 2: Those names I mentioned are the Live additions for this year, 1998 01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,880 Speaker 2: and the last two names would be the Lives subtractions 1999 01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:23,360 Speaker 2: from this year. 2000 01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:27,040 Speaker 4: Wow, you say that with a smugness on your face. 2001 01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,680 Speaker 3: That's someone who's not as in the loop, like I'll 2002 01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:36,880 Speaker 3: watch the majors and stuff. That's pretty telling. That's kind 2003 01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:40,240 Speaker 3: of shocking how this thing is starting to crash. It 2004 01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,080 Speaker 3: feels like from the outside. 2005 01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:47,520 Speaker 2: Right, Elvis Smiley, you're not a big you know, fireballs smiling. 2006 01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:49,120 Speaker 7: I used to be. 2007 01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:51,000 Speaker 1: I've kind of not as much these days. But could 2008 01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:52,200 Speaker 1: you pick those guys out of the line? 2009 01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,479 Speaker 2: I mean, what did I just name ten people? I 2010 01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,240 Speaker 2: have heard of five? And I am about as sick 2011 01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:01,760 Speaker 2: of a golf human as there is. Oh wow, I 2012 01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,240 Speaker 2: mean and again, Patrick Reid and Brooks Koepka for different 2013 01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:07,320 Speaker 2: ways we talked about a little bit earlier. 2014 01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:09,200 Speaker 5: You know, both of them are coming back to PGA 2015 01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:10,200 Speaker 5: Tour with penalties. 2016 01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:12,200 Speaker 2: It's not like they're coming back and boom, They're at 2017 01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:14,880 Speaker 2: Tory Pines today and all of a sudden, you know, 2018 01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:16,680 Speaker 2: they're free to make all the money they want to, 2019 01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,160 Speaker 2: and they're free to play in all the events. It's 2020 01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:22,040 Speaker 2: not that Kopka will play today at Tory Pines, but 2021 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,840 Speaker 2: he is not, you know, free reign to collect in 2022 01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,360 Speaker 2: all the you know, player equity and and I think 2023 01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,639 Speaker 2: even the FedEx Cup bonuses that happen later in the season. 2024 01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:35,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, it is a it's a very cracking time 2025 01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,479 Speaker 2: for the Live Golf Tour. And I say that literally, 2026 01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:43,719 Speaker 2: like you know crack. So yeah, it's I was blown 2027 01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,679 Speaker 2: away when I saw that list, and again, Patrick Reid's 2028 01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:49,320 Speaker 2: got a little villain to him. You know, he's a 2029 01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,120 Speaker 2: little bit of like if there ever is a thing 2030 01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:54,880 Speaker 2: is like a bad boy in golf or like someone 2031 01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,599 Speaker 2: that people don't like, it's read and I think that's 2032 01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:00,680 Speaker 2: healthy for sports. Count me among those which is good, Like, 2033 01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,599 Speaker 2: that's healthy for sports. We don't need to have choir 2034 01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,800 Speaker 2: boys and girls galore. We want a little bit of 2035 01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:11,760 Speaker 2: the villain. That's what makes I think sports truly. You know, 2036 01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:15,000 Speaker 2: just a little tension can go a long way in 2037 01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:19,080 Speaker 2: the entertainment world. So it looks like it's gonna be 2038 01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:23,240 Speaker 2: a little bit longer for Patrick Reid. But boy, just 2039 01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:26,959 Speaker 2: got emotional yesterday when here in that Live golfed lost another. 2040 01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:28,880 Speaker 1: You liked lebron last night in Clevelandtle choked up. 2041 01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:30,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just really feel for him. 2042 01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:32,759 Speaker 2: Seemed like such a really sympathetic figure. 2043 01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:37,599 Speaker 4: How much they offer Tiger what was that number? Ten 2044 01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:39,679 Speaker 4: million billion? 2045 01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:44,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably like a cut of the entire numbers are 2046 01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:46,439 Speaker 2: just and for those curious, and maybe no one is. 2047 01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,400 Speaker 2: And we'll obviously move on to Zach Key for here 2048 01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:51,720 Speaker 2: coming up on the other side, But new PG Tour 2049 01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,280 Speaker 2: commissioner Brian rolop he comes over from the NFL. A 2050 01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:55,800 Speaker 2: lot of people thought he'd be next in line for 2051 01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:58,120 Speaker 2: Roger Goodell. And so I think that's where you're seeing 2052 01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:01,080 Speaker 2: some of this. I'm gonna extend the out of branch, Jeff, 2053 01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,360 Speaker 2: but the olive branch is gonna have thorns on. 2054 01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:05,760 Speaker 4: It that come on back. 2055 01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,839 Speaker 2: But the water's fine, but there are some penalties. 2056 01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:11,800 Speaker 4: There's some big penalties for Kopka, right, and. 2057 01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:13,479 Speaker 2: And Patrick read a little bit too it. And again 2058 01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:16,599 Speaker 2: I think that to me is fair. You can come back, 2059 01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:19,120 Speaker 2: but you're not coming back. Just walk back into the 2060 01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:22,400 Speaker 2: fraternity and we'll let you tap the keg first. No, no, no, 2061 01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,800 Speaker 2: you know you're gonna go drink some ever Clear in 2062 01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:29,479 Speaker 2: your room before you come down to the party. Well, 2063 01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:31,919 Speaker 2: I don't know if that analogy hit it. I'm struggling 2064 01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:36,600 Speaker 2: today that that in the Red Garter seven hundred to 2065 01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:37,840 Speaker 2: eight hundred million. 2066 01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:41,320 Speaker 4: Is what they say Tiger Woods was offered. I mean, 2067 01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:43,479 Speaker 4: is that not You imagine how many guys in the 2068 01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:44,679 Speaker 4: world could turn that down. 2069 01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:48,080 Speaker 2: Imagine that that's like Rick Carlisle turning me down yesterday 2070 01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,120 Speaker 2: that you didn't say there it was not that audio. 2071 01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:55,400 Speaker 2: One more this was Rick Carlisle nine thirty. I asked 2072 01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:58,280 Speaker 2: him if he would, you know, potentially join Hey, Notre 2073 01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:01,160 Speaker 2: Dame there it is okay, Notre Dame Virginia trip next 2074 01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:02,760 Speaker 2: year up up US thirty one. 2075 01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:10,720 Speaker 6: He was like he was there. 2076 01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,240 Speaker 2: He had one more follow up after that. Yeah, the 2077 01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:17,240 Speaker 2: urge pass kind of dance a little. 2078 01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:19,519 Speaker 4: He was trying to let you down gently, but then 2079 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:20,200 Speaker 4: he had one more. 2080 01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:30,000 Speaker 2: Well say no more. You had me at first sight, so. 2081 01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:31,519 Speaker 4: You're saying, there's a chance. 2082 01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:35,200 Speaker 2: Amen, Send the dumb and dumber gift, Caleb Zumer, Send 2083 01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:35,760 Speaker 2: it my way. 2084 01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:40,599 Speaker 1: The door is open, Zach Keifer here to brighten us 2085 01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:42,920 Speaker 1: all up and make a smarter folks about football. That's 2086 01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:44,720 Speaker 1: coming up next here at ninety three five and one 2087 01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:49,240 Speaker 1: on seven five the fan, Ah, this one takes me. 2088 01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:51,000 Speaker 4: Way back, Caleb. 2089 01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:53,800 Speaker 2: Foreigner urgent. 2090 01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,040 Speaker 1: This song was this, This album was on repeat when 2091 01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,880 Speaker 1: I was a kid off. I don't know if that 2092 01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:02,960 Speaker 1: makes me really really old or what that makes. Kevin's 2093 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:04,160 Speaker 1: just laughing at me over there. 2094 01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:06,040 Speaker 5: How you going this morning? 2095 01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:07,320 Speaker 2: You were pumped up there? 2096 01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:09,960 Speaker 1: I was, man, And I'll keep a lot of that 2097 01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:13,280 Speaker 1: to myself, probably right now too, because we got bigger, better, 2098 01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:13,760 Speaker 1: things to do? 2099 01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:14,160 Speaker 7: Do we not? 2100 01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:18,040 Speaker 1: Caleb Zuver, We're in a momentarily going to be talking 2101 01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:21,080 Speaker 1: to our good friend Zach Kiefer. He writes for the Athletic, 2102 01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:24,560 Speaker 1: covers of colts and really general stuff over there. You 2103 01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:28,639 Speaker 1: want to talk about a tremendously gifted writer. We are blessed. 2104 01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:30,880 Speaker 1: Not only do have had Zach Keifer in this market 2105 01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:35,240 Speaker 1: for a long long time, but he's he is throwback complete, 2106 01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:37,639 Speaker 1: like he'd fit right in in the old glory days 2107 01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:38,880 Speaker 1: of sports Illustrated Kevin. 2108 01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I believe he will be off to the 2109 01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:45,840 Speaker 2: Winter Olympics coming up here. Wow, So you want to 2110 01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:49,559 Speaker 2: talk about what the athletic thinks of him? So he's 2111 01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:51,200 Speaker 2: drop his kids off, he's going to join us here 2112 01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,479 Speaker 2: in a few minutes. But yeah, and I also want 2113 01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:55,720 Speaker 2: to talk to some colts to Zach. You know, I 2114 01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:58,360 Speaker 2: think he always is a nice person to have. He's 2115 01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:01,519 Speaker 2: still in the NFL beat and a nice person to 2116 01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:03,519 Speaker 2: have when you kind of look back on some of 2117 01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:07,200 Speaker 2: this ballad ten year. But yeah, can you imagine covering 2118 01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:08,479 Speaker 2: the Olympics We're in Italy? 2119 01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:12,960 Speaker 1: Correct, I've covered one Winter Olympics that was assault like 2120 01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:15,000 Speaker 1: seven games in twenty two thousand and two. 2121 01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,840 Speaker 4: Do you guys have a favorite Winter Olympics sport to watch? 2122 01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:22,519 Speaker 2: Because I have one. It's curling. I learned watching curling. 2123 01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,080 Speaker 3: I think it's great and I feel like that's what 2124 01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,799 Speaker 3: they always put on in the early morning, Like I remember, 2125 01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:31,440 Speaker 3: I think it was in twenty fourteen, the Soshi Olympics. 2126 01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:33,639 Speaker 3: I remember that they'd put that on. I'd be getting 2127 01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:35,960 Speaker 3: ready for school instead of Sports Center for those two 2128 01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:37,599 Speaker 3: weeks it was, it was curling. 2129 01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:40,000 Speaker 2: I was watching. I'll never forget being at a bachelor 2130 01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:44,160 Speaker 2: party in Vegas and it was we walked, we landed, 2131 01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:46,240 Speaker 2: walked into the sports book and it might have been 2132 01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:50,400 Speaker 2: was soci eighteen. I thought it was fourteen fourteen. Yeah, yeah, 2133 01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,160 Speaker 2: that sounds right. And now you say that that adds 2134 01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:55,840 Speaker 2: up to it was morning hockey and it was USA 2135 01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:59,679 Speaker 2: versus Canada's awesome, and the sports book was just rocket. 2136 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:00,840 Speaker 5: You know, I don't. 2137 01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't grow up in a hockey climate. 2138 01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:05,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I've lived here my whole life, 2139 01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:11,200 Speaker 2: so like, I don't fall the NHL. So watching everyone 2140 01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:13,840 Speaker 2: react was like, damn, this is awesome. So now I'm 2141 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,080 Speaker 2: kind of like all in. Now I'm like every Winter Olympics. 2142 01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:17,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, are the NHL guys playing? 2143 01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:18,280 Speaker 5: Okay? 2144 01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:21,640 Speaker 2: They are all right, you know, let's go. And so 2145 01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:24,760 Speaker 2: that's what I'm written for. I'm rooting for USA Canadian 2146 01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:25,559 Speaker 2: gold medal match. 2147 01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:29,160 Speaker 1: I will tell you this, one of the single greatest 2148 01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:32,200 Speaker 1: sporting events I've ever attended was the two thousand and 2149 01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:36,320 Speaker 1: two gold medal hockey game between Canada and the United States. 2150 01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:41,240 Speaker 1: And what's special about hockey in the Olympics. It's it's 2151 01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:43,760 Speaker 1: you know, in basketball, we have the best players in 2152 01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:46,160 Speaker 1: the world represent their countries, but the United States is 2153 01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:50,400 Speaker 1: generally overwhelmingly a favor to. Occasionally Spain, Brazil somebody like 2154 01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:52,840 Speaker 1: that pops up one of the European countries. But for 2155 01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,400 Speaker 1: the most part, when you talk about the top five 2156 01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:59,800 Speaker 1: or six countries in the Olympics for hockey, you have 2157 01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:03,560 Speaker 1: all star teams right from the National Hockey League and 2158 01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:07,040 Speaker 1: it's intense. Imagine all star teams playing it like it's 2159 01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:08,720 Speaker 1: Game seven of the Stanley Cup. 2160 01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:13,200 Speaker 2: Fine, we're starting to inch close to that in basketball, 2161 01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:15,720 Speaker 2: Frank better you know it is. I mean, look at 2162 01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:16,519 Speaker 2: the USA is run. 2163 01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:16,920 Speaker 6: I mean. 2164 01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:21,280 Speaker 2: Remember that Serbia fourth quarter against them. I mean that 2165 01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:23,400 Speaker 2: was on the brink. You know, the gold medal game 2166 01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:26,400 Speaker 2: against France, Curry saved push over and you know Canada 2167 01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:29,599 Speaker 2: with Shay, you know, they weren't even in the semi 2168 01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:32,080 Speaker 2: final round. So you know, maybe the twenty eight Olympics 2169 01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:34,600 Speaker 2: when you get there in La, you know it'll be 2170 01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:37,720 Speaker 2: close to that. But yeah, I've grown to get behind that. 2171 01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:39,760 Speaker 2: And I love the movie Cool Runnings. I want to 2172 01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,120 Speaker 2: watch that tonight. So I'm gonna go to make for 2173 01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:44,400 Speaker 2: Caleb Zuber on that one to answer his question. 2174 01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:45,400 Speaker 4: Have you seen Cool Runnings? 2175 01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:47,679 Speaker 1: Caleb? We got to get into that movie. I don't 2176 01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:52,200 Speaker 1: think so that's class great stuff right there. But now 2177 01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:54,240 Speaker 1: you bring up a great point. The Winter Olympics and 2178 01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:56,400 Speaker 1: on hockey I think is as good as it gets. 2179 01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:57,639 Speaker 1: That's fantastic stun. 2180 01:36:57,520 --> 01:36:58,880 Speaker 2: The NHLs are playing. 2181 01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:02,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, they take a break from the regular season cinema. 2182 01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:04,720 Speaker 2: See the WNBA is going to do a break this 2183 01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:08,280 Speaker 2: year for the World Cup, which I found interesting. Interesting, 2184 01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:12,200 Speaker 2: and I assume that would be Caitlin Clark potentially with TBO. 2185 01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,200 Speaker 1: We are joined now by the aforementioned Zach Kiefer of 2186 01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:17,760 Speaker 1: the Athletic on the Payless Liquors hotline. Zach we were 2187 01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,519 Speaker 1: just talking about some of our favorite sports and games. 2188 01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:22,640 Speaker 1: For the Winter Olympics, says, you get ready to go 2189 01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:25,840 Speaker 1: cover that for the Athletic what are you most looking 2190 01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:26,920 Speaker 1: forward to? Do you think? 2191 01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,080 Speaker 7: I'm going to tell you what, Watching these guys go 2192 01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:34,439 Speaker 7: down these hills, the skiers, the alpine skiers, at about 2193 01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:37,080 Speaker 7: seventy seventy five miles an hour. 2194 01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:39,000 Speaker 6: It's going to be pretty surreal. 2195 01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:41,040 Speaker 7: It's as one of them told me, I kind of 2196 01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:43,559 Speaker 7: told them my backstory and how I covered the NFL, 2197 01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:45,960 Speaker 7: and he said, yeah, we suffer the same injuries. The 2198 01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:49,400 Speaker 7: difference is I'm the one doing it to myself. In football, 2199 01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:51,559 Speaker 7: someone's usually hitting me when I get hit. 2200 01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:54,720 Speaker 2: Now, I thought you were covering the Olympics when I 2201 01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:58,040 Speaker 2: saw you from Afar at the old Butler Hill with 2202 01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:00,160 Speaker 2: your girls the other day. Can we can we can 2203 01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:01,400 Speaker 2: we get that as a sport here. 2204 01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:04,800 Speaker 7: Zach, I was gonna say that it's pretty great and live. 2205 01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:07,840 Speaker 7: I'm pretty close to the Butler Hill, and you know, 2206 01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:09,880 Speaker 7: one of the purses they gave me a little money 2207 01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:12,479 Speaker 7: to spend on gear, like because I'm in the mountains 2208 01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,600 Speaker 7: for three weeks and so having that gear for this 2209 01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,479 Speaker 7: Snowmageddon that we're in right now has been really nice. 2210 01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:19,800 Speaker 7: I wore the fancy foods down there. 2211 01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:22,439 Speaker 2: You go to the Butler Bowl the other day before 2212 01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:24,519 Speaker 2: we you know, shift gears to more of the daily 2213 01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:26,280 Speaker 2: of football. In a little bit of colts talk. I 2214 01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:29,280 Speaker 2: do want to nerd out over this this issignment. I 2215 01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:31,519 Speaker 2: think it's awesome. I'm so thrilled that the that the 2216 01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:34,760 Speaker 2: athletic is sitting you over there, well well deserved. When 2217 01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:36,960 Speaker 2: you leave, how long you over there? What do you 2218 01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:38,519 Speaker 2: cover and give us a whole lay of the land. 2219 01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:40,759 Speaker 2: I've never been close to an Olympics. 2220 01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:46,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, I definitely wasn't expecting this. I leave on Wednesday 2221 01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,240 Speaker 7: and I will be there basically through the first or 2222 01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:51,360 Speaker 7: second day of the NFL combine, So I'm gone the 2223 01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:56,120 Speaker 7: entire month of February. The games are in the lawn Courtina, 2224 01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:59,920 Speaker 7: but I'm actually in a small town and then nor 2225 01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:04,599 Speaker 7: Than part of Italy called Bormeo Lavigno. I'm covering skiing 2226 01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:07,400 Speaker 7: and snowboarding. So the names you're going to recognize are 2227 01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:10,960 Speaker 7: Lindsey vaugh, Chloe Kim, Mikayla Schiffer. 2228 01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:11,839 Speaker 6: And Ryan Cochran Siegel. 2229 01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:16,880 Speaker 7: Maybe the Indie native is Nick yepper, sure, and I 2230 01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:20,320 Speaker 7: had a story about him all days. Right, yeah, this 2231 01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:23,320 Speaker 7: is his this is his fourth he's set in records. 2232 01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:26,880 Speaker 7: And the crazy part is I asked him. I was like, dude, 2233 01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:29,559 Speaker 7: I got to ask you, as like someone who's from Indiana, 2234 01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:32,479 Speaker 7: how in the world did you make the Winter Olympics. 2235 01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:34,120 Speaker 6: And he gave me an interesting response. 2236 01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:36,080 Speaker 7: He said, because I don't know if you guys know, 2237 01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:39,479 Speaker 7: like Perfect North down in southern Indiana, it's not exactly 2238 01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:41,280 Speaker 7: like a hotbed of Olympic talent. 2239 01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:44,040 Speaker 6: And he said, well, here's the thing. If I grew 2240 01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:44,880 Speaker 6: up in Vail or. 2241 01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:48,719 Speaker 7: Breckinridge, being at those fancy resorts, I would get maybe 2242 01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:51,960 Speaker 7: one or two runs an hour. At Perfect North, I 2243 01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:54,280 Speaker 7: could get a season pass for fifty bucks and ski 2244 01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:57,439 Speaker 7: one hundred and fifty runs per hours. So he just 2245 01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:01,679 Speaker 7: got a million reps over time. I mean, his trips 2246 01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:04,200 Speaker 7: are just jaw dropping. It's pretty incredible what these guys 2247 01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:04,479 Speaker 7: can do. 2248 01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:05,400 Speaker 4: It's crazy. 2249 01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:07,840 Speaker 1: You brought up Lindsay Vaughn, who's just had to in 2250 01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:12,200 Speaker 1: my mind, Zach, I've covered sports forever. This is one 2251 01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:15,320 Speaker 1: of the most amazing comeback stories I've ever seen, not 2252 01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:18,800 Speaker 1: only coming back from major injuries, but time off over 2253 01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,400 Speaker 1: the age of forty and she's winning World Cup races. 2254 01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:26,680 Speaker 2: This is unbelievable to me. How likely is it that 2255 01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:28,200 Speaker 2: she could pull off a gold medal here? 2256 01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:31,320 Speaker 6: Oh, she could definitely do it. 2257 01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:34,400 Speaker 7: I mean it's not that just similar than what her 2258 01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:36,599 Speaker 7: ex boyfriend did in the world of golf, right did 2259 01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:39,360 Speaker 7: it Tiger Woods for a minute and that guy's knee 2260 01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:42,240 Speaker 7: was shredded and he came back and won the Masters 2261 01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:45,640 Speaker 7: and all that. What she's doing is absurd. So we 2262 01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:47,520 Speaker 7: all watch on TV and it's incredible. 2263 01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:47,720 Speaker 2: Right. 2264 01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:50,760 Speaker 7: I went to event in December to just kind of 2265 01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:52,640 Speaker 7: you know, the World Cup event, get the lay of 2266 01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:56,000 Speaker 7: the land, to see them in action as a completely 2267 01:40:56,240 --> 01:41:00,160 Speaker 7: different visual. You feel it in your entire body to 2268 01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:03,599 Speaker 7: see the halfpipe and how these these snowboarders are thirty 2269 01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:07,479 Speaker 7: feet above the lift of the of the halfpipe and 2270 01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:10,120 Speaker 7: it's completely ice at the top and so when they fall, 2271 01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:13,280 Speaker 7: I mean, they break something, no matter what. The coolest 2272 01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:15,519 Speaker 7: part for me has been the Super g the alpine, 2273 01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:20,040 Speaker 7: the downhill stuff where they're they're literally rocket launching themselves 2274 01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:22,880 Speaker 7: down the side of a mountain and they're wearing a 2275 01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:26,160 Speaker 7: quarter of an inch of spandex to protect that one slip. 2276 01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,040 Speaker 6: And that's the other thing is every single fear I've 2277 01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:29,559 Speaker 6: ever talked to. 2278 01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:31,439 Speaker 7: Is like, Yeah, I blew out my ACL, I blew 2279 01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:34,320 Speaker 7: out Moniscus, my PCL, my MCL, Like they've all been 2280 01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:37,280 Speaker 7: hurt because it's such a dangerous sport and they're sort 2281 01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,759 Speaker 7: of towing this line, which of course makes Lizzy Vaughn's 2282 01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,040 Speaker 7: come back all the more remarkable. And the way she's 2283 01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:45,880 Speaker 7: skien right now, she could absolutely contend, Yeah, you. 2284 01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:48,320 Speaker 2: Cannot wait to read your work. I think I'll meet 2285 01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:51,120 Speaker 2: the moment there at an Olympics coming up in a 2286 01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:52,840 Speaker 2: few weeks. That key for that's the voice you hear 2287 01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:55,559 Speaker 2: on of course on the Payloss Liquors hotline AILO shift 2288 01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:58,760 Speaker 2: gears a little bit more Colts NFL related. So our 2289 01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:03,480 Speaker 2: first combo with you since the season ended here in Indianapolis, 2290 01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:07,560 Speaker 2: just your overall thoughts on the twenty five and the 2291 01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,400 Speaker 2: complexities of the Colt season and then the run it 2292 01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:12,479 Speaker 2: back approach they're taking here into twenty twenty six. 2293 01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, I can't say I was surprised based on kind 2294 01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:19,000 Speaker 7: of sort of the conversations I had late in the season. 2295 01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:21,160 Speaker 7: It didn't seem like Carly was ready to make a move. 2296 01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:25,040 Speaker 7: That's obviously what happened. They're written it back status quo. 2297 01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:27,920 Speaker 7: If I'm a Colts fan, I'm probably a little bit 2298 01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,840 Speaker 7: encouraged by the fact that there were ten openings this year, 2299 01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:33,120 Speaker 7: and if you did make a move at head coach, 2300 01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:35,320 Speaker 7: I'm not sure you're getting your first or second or 2301 01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:37,880 Speaker 7: third choice. Now maybe that's just glass ass full talk, 2302 01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:41,360 Speaker 7: but I don't think there's many play callers out there 2303 01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:43,160 Speaker 7: on the market if you want to go offense, that 2304 01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:45,000 Speaker 7: are better than Shane Stike. And I think he would 2305 01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:48,040 Speaker 7: have gotten a head coaching job in about fifteen minutes. 2306 01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:49,840 Speaker 7: And that's from people I talked to around the league. 2307 01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:52,800 Speaker 7: But the other thing is, I didn't think the press 2308 01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:56,519 Speaker 7: conference was a great moment for this franchise. If I'm 2309 01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:58,599 Speaker 7: a Colts fan, I did not walk away from. 2310 01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:00,439 Speaker 6: That, Especially in courage. 2311 01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:04,240 Speaker 7: It felt very much to me that Chris Ballard was 2312 01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:08,920 Speaker 7: weighed on eight games of work as opposed to nine years. Right, 2313 01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:11,639 Speaker 7: those first eight games we were really good. That's good enough, 2314 01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:14,519 Speaker 7: let's run it back, as opposed to the class at 2315 01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:16,680 Speaker 7: the end which he was responsible, or just as much 2316 01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:19,400 Speaker 7: as the first eight games in the body of work, 2317 01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:22,800 Speaker 7: so I totally hear the fans frustration on that point. 2318 01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:26,080 Speaker 7: The logic did not make sense to me, and I 2319 01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:28,600 Speaker 7: did not think it was relayed very well. This was 2320 01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:33,240 Speaker 7: not a very convincing argument, in my opinion, of why 2321 01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:36,360 Speaker 7: they made the decision they made and why it's going 2322 01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:39,120 Speaker 7: to point in any direction other than the direction they've 2323 01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:41,560 Speaker 7: been the last couple of years, which just seems to 2324 01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:44,800 Speaker 7: be floating along and stuck in mediocrity. 2325 01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:49,120 Speaker 1: Zach obviously big moves in the offseason last year with 2326 01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:52,760 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and buying them and cam Ward and then 2327 01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:56,080 Speaker 1: in the middle of the season with Sauce Gardner. How 2328 01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:59,680 Speaker 1: aggressive can or should the Colts be on defense in 2329 01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:01,760 Speaker 1: free agency this offseason. 2330 01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:06,760 Speaker 7: Well, it sounds like Daniel Jones is free to complete right. 2331 01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,120 Speaker 7: It sounds like he's coming back, almost as if he's 2332 01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:11,160 Speaker 7: not a free agent who can test the market. 2333 01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:11,840 Speaker 8: Now. 2334 01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:13,439 Speaker 7: I think that's what Daniel wants. I think that's what 2335 01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:16,240 Speaker 7: Shane wants. Shane really likes him, and so they'll bring 2336 01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:18,439 Speaker 7: him back, and maybe the injury gives you a little 2337 01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:20,800 Speaker 7: bit of leeway. I'm just thrown out of number three 2338 01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:24,320 Speaker 7: for one hundred. Maybe a little bit more. It depends 2339 01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:27,120 Speaker 7: on what happens. Is Buckner back, Like Buckner's your best 2340 01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:30,200 Speaker 7: pass rusher, and that's a problem. That's a problem because 2341 01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:33,880 Speaker 7: no offense to Buckner, but he's an interior defensive lineman 2342 01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:36,400 Speaker 7: and they haven't addressed the edges. When I did that 2343 01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:38,760 Speaker 7: story with my colleague Jordan rog Grive at the end 2344 01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:41,360 Speaker 7: of the season, I mean, like, if you look up 2345 01:44:42,160 --> 01:44:46,760 Speaker 7: their highest pass back guys of the last you know, 2346 01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,280 Speaker 7: let's say the whole Chris Ballot era, all of them 2347 01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:50,879 Speaker 7: have been brought from other rosters. 2348 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:52,519 Speaker 6: None of them are homegrown talents. 2349 01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:57,680 Speaker 7: Edcom Justin Juson back in twenty nineteen, Denico Autrey, Like, 2350 01:44:57,800 --> 01:44:58,519 Speaker 7: that's a problem. 2351 01:44:58,560 --> 01:44:59,360 Speaker 6: They have been able to. 2352 01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:02,360 Speaker 7: Grow those edge rushers, and that's a big achilles here 2353 01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:05,200 Speaker 7: for this team. We'll see what happens in the secondary. 2354 01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:08,240 Speaker 7: They got some guys coming back from injury, but again, 2355 01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:10,720 Speaker 7: it's just it just feels like every year that that 2356 01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:14,439 Speaker 7: room gets shredded. So and I'm very curious to see 2357 01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:18,600 Speaker 7: what they do with linebackers. Iron Franklin back because it 2358 01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:22,320 Speaker 7: doesn't sound like anything is sure on that defense right now. 2359 01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:26,599 Speaker 2: Zach Keiber with us here on the Payless slickers hot line. 2360 01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:28,439 Speaker 2: I could not agree more with them on the kind 2361 01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:30,240 Speaker 2: of that end of the season post mortem and his 2362 01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:33,600 Speaker 2: takeaways from that. This is kind of random, Zach, but 2363 01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:36,840 Speaker 2: you were on the beat and I'm going way back, 2364 01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:40,520 Speaker 2: so I apologize. But twenty eighteen, when they hire Josh McDaniels, 2365 01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:46,000 Speaker 2: I had forgotten that a part of that first head 2366 01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:51,800 Speaker 2: coach interview cycle was Mike Vrabel. Some of the names 2367 01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:53,519 Speaker 2: that I was thinking about the other day it was, 2368 01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:56,160 Speaker 2: and again, feel free to add anything on it, because 2369 01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:58,920 Speaker 2: I don't remember at all. But I remember, like Matt 2370 01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:03,120 Speaker 2: Naggi's name being thrown around. I remember Matt Ruhle, who 2371 01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:07,479 Speaker 2: was then the Baylor head coach, getting an interview. Obviously, 2372 01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:11,240 Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels is who was initially hired there, but at 2373 01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:14,920 Speaker 2: the time that was Rabel, just one year as Texans 2374 01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:18,479 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. They weren't very good Houston defensively, and then 2375 01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:21,760 Speaker 2: ironically Rabel ended up getting hired that cycle Tennessee won 2376 01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:24,160 Speaker 2: a road playoff game at Kansas City. They still fired 2377 01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:28,200 Speaker 2: Mike Mlarkey and hired Rabel after that. But do you 2378 01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:31,560 Speaker 2: recall anything from that coaching search. I know once the 2379 01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:35,839 Speaker 2: McDaniels things happened, we tend to only remember that aspect 2380 01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:36,080 Speaker 2: to it. 2381 01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:42,280 Speaker 7: Yoh, yeah, Chris really wanted Josh McDaniels. I don't know 2382 01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:44,160 Speaker 7: if the word save is the right word, but he 2383 01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:47,400 Speaker 7: wanted to resurrect Josh McDaniels head coaching viability. Like he 2384 01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:51,240 Speaker 7: really wanted that offensive mind. And remember where McDaniels was right, 2385 01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:53,839 Speaker 7: he was piloting one of the best officers of football 2386 01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:54,800 Speaker 7: with Tom Brady, and they. 2387 01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:56,479 Speaker 6: Were competing for championships every year. 2388 01:46:57,000 --> 01:47:00,160 Speaker 7: An interesting thing here, and you know this TV is 2389 01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:03,479 Speaker 7: the Rabel aspect because as. 2390 01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:06,200 Speaker 6: The years went on, Jim Mersey. 2391 01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:08,760 Speaker 7: Was obsessed with Mike Rapel Like I don't use that 2392 01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:09,720 Speaker 7: word lightly. 2393 01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:11,519 Speaker 6: But he got so mad. 2394 01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:15,559 Speaker 7: He got visibly upset in conversations I had with them, 2395 01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:17,880 Speaker 7: and then in conversations he had with me and other 2396 01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,680 Speaker 7: reporters that the Titans would come in and win the 2397 01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:24,160 Speaker 7: AFC South every couple of years with less talent than 2398 01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:24,759 Speaker 7: the coltsack. 2399 01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:26,000 Speaker 6: It drove him insane. 2400 01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:28,400 Speaker 7: And there was an OH to three start one year 2401 01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:31,160 Speaker 7: where the Titans had won the third game to beat 2402 01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:33,320 Speaker 7: the Colts. The Colts are owned three, and he called 2403 01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:36,599 Speaker 7: Frank Brake in every scout and every coach in the city, 2404 01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:39,080 Speaker 7: like they were in town into the building so he 2405 01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:41,160 Speaker 7: could rip them a new one. I forgot about it, 2406 01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:44,679 Speaker 7: and he absolutely just lit into them. And he loved 2407 01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:47,080 Speaker 7: the way Rabel's teams played with toughness. It's kind of 2408 01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:49,240 Speaker 7: what he wanted out of a Chuck Pagano era. Right, 2409 01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:52,360 Speaker 7: So they don't win more than one championship with Peyton. 2410 01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:54,519 Speaker 7: They want to go defense. They want to mimic what 2411 01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:56,920 Speaker 7: the Steelers and the Ravens did for all those years, 2412 01:47:57,000 --> 01:47:58,920 Speaker 7: the teams that beat the Colts in the playoffs that 2413 01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:02,080 Speaker 7: drove him nuts. We wanted that with a Chuck Pagano era. 2414 01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:05,479 Speaker 7: They pitt it back to offense, Josh McDaniels, which leads 2415 01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:09,040 Speaker 7: to Frank Braig. But your Mercy was right about Mike Rabel, 2416 01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:10,679 Speaker 7: like he is a heck of a head coach. 2417 01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:11,559 Speaker 6: He's seeing it right. 2418 01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:14,519 Speaker 7: Now and it used to really drive him nuts that 2419 01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:18,360 Speaker 7: Rabel's scenes would win the ANC South with less talent, 2420 01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:20,040 Speaker 7: he thought than the Indianapolis Colts. 2421 01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:24,240 Speaker 2: Man, I'm looking on a map here, Zach. You weren't kidding. 2422 01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:26,720 Speaker 2: Milan is not very close to Courtina at all. It's 2423 01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:27,840 Speaker 2: like a two hour drive. 2424 01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:31,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm like, I'm hopping on a plane that or sorry, 2425 01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:35,080 Speaker 7: I'm hopping on a train that's like a three hour ride. 2426 01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:38,160 Speaker 7: I'm in this like little small ski town that's like. 2427 01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:40,439 Speaker 6: Basically the Swiss out. So I'm basically in the Swiss 2428 01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:41,759 Speaker 6: outs for the next three weeks. 2429 01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:43,920 Speaker 5: Oh well, unbelievable. 2430 01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:44,560 Speaker 4: I feel for you. 2431 01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:46,200 Speaker 2: Is your wife coming over all? 2432 01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:50,720 Speaker 7: She's gonna come for the first couple of days the 2433 01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:53,680 Speaker 7: whole Can I cover the Olympics and be gone for 2434 01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:54,439 Speaker 7: three weeks? 2435 01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:54,640 Speaker 8: Was? 2436 01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:54,960 Speaker 2: You know? 2437 01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:57,479 Speaker 7: Probably better to get her a couple of days of 2438 01:48:57,560 --> 01:49:00,559 Speaker 7: her own before she's got a solo parent for quiet while. 2439 01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:04,920 Speaker 2: Sure, dude, have a blast man safe travels and yeah, 2440 01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:05,640 Speaker 2: I can't wait to Rea. 2441 01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:07,599 Speaker 5: I mean, hell, with a time change, maybe we might 2442 01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:08,040 Speaker 5: dial you. 2443 01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:11,400 Speaker 2: Up if if, if it works at all, Yeah, yeah, 2444 01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:12,000 Speaker 2: I'll be out. 2445 01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:13,360 Speaker 6: I'll be out on the slopes every day. 2446 01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:14,479 Speaker 4: One more quick thing. 2447 01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:17,880 Speaker 1: Any thoughts on the the whole Pro Football Hall of 2448 01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:21,080 Speaker 1: Fame brew haha with Bill Belichick and how people are 2449 01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:22,680 Speaker 1: reacting across the league to that. 2450 01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:28,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, I have some thoughts because the process is really 2451 01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:32,040 Speaker 7: unnecessarily complex, Like, I know people are mad that Belichick 2452 01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:34,599 Speaker 7: isn't the first ballot Hall of Famer. I don't think 2453 01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:36,839 Speaker 7: that's worth our time. He's a Hall of Famer. Everybody 2454 01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:38,760 Speaker 7: knows that he should have gotten in. You guys don't 2455 01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:41,240 Speaker 7: need to waste your airwaves on that. I think the 2456 01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:45,679 Speaker 7: reality is, why are these voters, these fifty voters, choosing 2457 01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:50,519 Speaker 7: between you know, Ken Anderson and Bill Pollian and a 2458 01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:54,080 Speaker 7: coach right like or Bill Belichick? 2459 01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:56,559 Speaker 6: Excuse me, like, it just doesn't make sense that they're having. 2460 01:49:56,439 --> 01:50:01,120 Speaker 7: To equate players careers with these legendary coaching I feel 2461 01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:03,800 Speaker 7: like they should be separate categories. And the way they've 2462 01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:08,240 Speaker 7: rearranged and redone the process is just added this confusion. 2463 01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:09,880 Speaker 7: And the other thing is I think a lot of 2464 01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:12,960 Speaker 7: voters didn't vote for Belichick because they just assumed he 2465 01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:15,120 Speaker 7: was going to get in. And then all of a sudden, 2466 01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:17,360 Speaker 7: you had eleven voters at least who didn't vote for 2467 01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:19,960 Speaker 7: Belichick and he doesn't get in, which is just a 2468 01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:22,200 Speaker 7: terrible look for the Hall of Fame. I think it's 2469 01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:25,200 Speaker 7: a terrible look for the voters as well. I just 2470 01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:27,240 Speaker 7: think this is more a reflection of a very very 2471 01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:30,120 Speaker 7: flawed process than anything it has to do with with 2472 01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:31,400 Speaker 7: Belichick's credentials. 2473 01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:32,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, I have fun. 2474 01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:35,599 Speaker 1: As Kevin said, travel safe, buddy, and we look forward 2475 01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:35,960 Speaker 1: to hearing and. 2476 01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:36,719 Speaker 4: Reading your stuff. 2477 01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:38,160 Speaker 6: Awesome. 2478 01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:40,680 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Thanks Dak Keith for the athletic joining us 2479 01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:42,080 Speaker 1: on the Payless Liquors hotline. 2480 01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:46,000 Speaker 2: Speed Skating Caleb, I love speed skating too. I think 2481 01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:47,960 Speaker 2: got so cool. They get down there, they're kind of 2482 01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:50,920 Speaker 2: geting that three point stance and man that they're hugging 2483 01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:53,800 Speaker 2: those inside lines and I feel like there's a lot 2484 01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:58,000 Speaker 2: of tactical, you know, nature to it of like you know, 2485 01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:00,200 Speaker 2: let's call it a ten lap race, and I'm to 2486 01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:03,639 Speaker 2: kind of, you know, be more the hunter than the hunted. 2487 01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:07,679 Speaker 2: And I love that. I can remember the American dude, 2488 01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:11,479 Speaker 2: Apollo anton Ono. I believe, yes, yeah, that was That 2489 01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:13,920 Speaker 2: was a kind of an earlier Winter Olympic memory. 2490 01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:15,640 Speaker 1: I go back a little bit far. They're one of 2491 01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:18,720 Speaker 1: my first jobs in this business. Effectually, my first full 2492 01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:22,000 Speaker 1: time job out of college was in Billings, Montana, and 2493 01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:27,080 Speaker 1: uh we covered the the speeds getting World Cup over 2494 01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:29,040 Speaker 1: in Butte at the same time. I don't know if 2495 01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:31,160 Speaker 1: you remember these names, you might be a little too young, Caleb, 2496 01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:34,720 Speaker 1: but Dan Janssen sure, Bonnie Blair. Yeah, people like that 2497 01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:37,160 Speaker 1: kind of and and let me tell you when it's 2498 01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:39,000 Speaker 1: one of those things like Zach was talking about scheme, 2499 01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:41,360 Speaker 1: when you see it up close and see the actual 2500 01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:45,719 Speaker 1: speed that these folks traveled down open ice on those skates, 2501 01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:50,120 Speaker 1: it's it's like it's in some ways clearly it's not 2502 01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:52,720 Speaker 1: like the Inn five hundred, where it's just they're from 2503 01:51:52,760 --> 01:51:54,360 Speaker 1: one end to the other like in no time. 2504 01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:57,000 Speaker 4: But it's fast, and you're like, WHOA. 2505 01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:00,320 Speaker 3: I got to say this for Zach. He's said he's 2506 01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:03,400 Speaker 3: going to be in the Swiss Alps. He's getting a 2507 01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:06,880 Speaker 3: good primer out here in Indy with this snowstorm, So 2508 01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:08,559 Speaker 3: I think I think this is a good warm up. 2509 01:52:08,720 --> 01:52:10,320 Speaker 4: You're going to be quite as cold out there. 2510 01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's fair. Go to the top of 2511 01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:16,559 Speaker 2: Crown Hill, to the highest point here in Indianapolis. Yeah, 2512 01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:18,720 Speaker 2: I believe Rakestraw said to me on the Trium up 2513 01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:20,600 Speaker 2: thirty one. Oh, here we go the highest point in 2514 01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:22,920 Speaker 2: in Kocoma where about right across right now. 2515 01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,960 Speaker 1: That's why I go to Brown you know, the state 2516 01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:29,360 Speaker 1: park down in Brown County, because there's actually terrain and 2517 01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:30,360 Speaker 1: hills out there. Man. 2518 01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:30,960 Speaker 4: I love that. 2519 01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:34,320 Speaker 3: Just the cold and the snow aspect, I would say 2520 01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:36,640 Speaker 3: he's getting maybe a good warm up. 2521 01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:39,160 Speaker 4: All right, let's do a quick checkdown as we continue 2522 01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:39,920 Speaker 4: to roll through the show. 2523 01:52:39,960 --> 01:52:42,760 Speaker 1: Here Andiana Pacer was one thirteen to one to ten 2524 01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:46,000 Speaker 1: winners at the Fieldhouse last night over the Chicago Bulls, 2525 01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:49,240 Speaker 1: a team they seem to have figured out Kevin Bowen 2526 01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:50,400 Speaker 1: three of their twelve. 2527 01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:53,280 Speaker 2: Wins this year. Right, So three and oh against the Bulls. Yeah, 2528 01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:55,120 Speaker 2: last night, you just made all the plays in the 2529 01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:57,640 Speaker 2: fourth quarter, and we haven't said that too often this year. 2530 01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:01,519 Speaker 2: Raced a fourteen point deficit. Now hard big shot Siakam 2531 01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:04,479 Speaker 2: has several big plays. Aaron Nee Smith probably the top 2532 01:53:04,560 --> 01:53:07,639 Speaker 2: of that, both ends of the floor, huge huge plays. 2533 01:53:07,760 --> 01:53:09,920 Speaker 2: Jay Hoff hit the top of the key three and 2534 01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:12,000 Speaker 2: Ben mcfathern had a really key flurry there in the 2535 01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:14,880 Speaker 2: third quarter. You know, that could have gone either way there. 2536 01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:16,880 Speaker 2: He got the start in the second half, had a 2537 01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:20,960 Speaker 2: big little stretch there to keep the Pacers within striking distance. So, yes, 2538 01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:23,280 Speaker 2: a win here is they are back at home and 2539 01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:25,960 Speaker 2: they will be at home for three more Saturday Hawks 2540 01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:28,080 Speaker 2: next game inside of Gamber trip. 2541 01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:30,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw two numbers out at you that jump 2542 01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:32,160 Speaker 1: out at me when I was looking at the box 2543 01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:35,360 Speaker 1: score in the post game last night. Only six turnovers 2544 01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:37,920 Speaker 1: and Kevin, they were fifteen to thirty six from three 2545 01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:40,519 Speaker 1: point range, which is not terrible. No, that's pretty good. 2546 01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:42,240 Speaker 2: No, no, no, And we will give you an update 2547 01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:45,840 Speaker 2: on our Yannis trade scenario poll Pacers fans, do you 2548 01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:46,160 Speaker 2: want it? 2549 01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:48,120 Speaker 5: We'll give that to you here. 2550 01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:50,200 Speaker 1: On the other side, as you mentioned, the Pacers at 2551 01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:53,559 Speaker 1: home again against the Atlanta Hawks tomorrow night, Saturday night, 2552 01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:54,840 Speaker 1: not tomorrow night, Saturday night. 2553 01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:55,400 Speaker 4: That one. 2554 01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:58,719 Speaker 1: We'll start at seven o'clock over there. Last night college basketball, 2555 01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:02,200 Speaker 1: Butler had a problem with John's from the very opening tip, 2556 01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:05,080 Speaker 1: just never really got it going. They lose by twenty 2557 01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:07,439 Speaker 1: two points, and it brings it into their little winning 2558 01:54:07,439 --> 01:54:08,599 Speaker 1: streak they had going on there. 2559 01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, and not that I work out much, but 2560 01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:13,160 Speaker 2: whenever I watch Saint John's play, I think to myself, 2561 01:54:13,160 --> 01:54:15,400 Speaker 2: I don't need to work out because I'm sweating imagining 2562 01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:17,920 Speaker 2: bringing up the ball against that Saint John's pressure. 2563 01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:18,040 Speaker 7: There. 2564 01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:21,840 Speaker 2: Shockingly, Butler only had six turnovers, yet still lost by 2565 01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:24,160 Speaker 2: twenty two. So Saint John shot the hell out of it. 2566 01:54:24,240 --> 01:54:26,960 Speaker 2: Butler tried a little one three one action and Saint 2567 01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:29,680 Speaker 2: John's was able to kind of carve that up there. 2568 01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:32,640 Speaker 2: So again, not a lot of quad one opportunities left. 2569 01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:34,520 Speaker 2: Last night was one of them. Saint John's looked like 2570 01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:36,680 Speaker 2: that preseason top ten team. That's really how they played 2571 01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:39,920 Speaker 2: here in January, say, Rick Patino's bunch looks like that. 2572 01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:43,160 Speaker 2: So Butler needs to continue to hold serve. They'll get 2573 01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:46,320 Speaker 2: Georgetown at home on Saturday, and then they're gonna have 2574 01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:49,760 Speaker 2: to steal one Yukon at Nova, win a game or 2575 01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:51,920 Speaker 2: two back in Madison Square Garden Big East Tournament time. 2576 01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:53,920 Speaker 2: They're gonna have to do a little bit more if 2577 01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:56,120 Speaker 2: they're gonna want to continue to build a resume. 2578 01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:59,200 Speaker 1: And you can see them for yourself. Saturday, they will 2579 01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:02,680 Speaker 1: be at he Fieldhouse. They'll be taking on Georgetown. I 2580 01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:04,920 Speaker 1: you on Saturday night will be out on the West 2581 01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:08,560 Speaker 1: Coast taking on UCLA. Purdue travels to Maryland for a 2582 01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:12,480 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon game, and your Notre Dame fighting Irish try 2583 01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:18,320 Speaker 1: to bounce back from that heartbreaking, crushing, tough loss in 2584 01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:20,360 Speaker 1: double overtime to Virginia the other night. 2585 01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:23,080 Speaker 5: I don't sense a lot of sympathy in how you 2586 01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:23,680 Speaker 5: described that. 2587 01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:27,360 Speaker 4: I said, it was heartbreaking and tough. Did I not come. 2588 01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:30,000 Speaker 2: I like Notre Dame's chances in that game. 2589 01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:33,160 Speaker 5: By the way, Syracuse is not Syracuse is reeling not great. 2590 01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:35,440 Speaker 1: It's not your father Syracuse basketball. 2591 01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:36,440 Speaker 5: It is true. 2592 01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:40,120 Speaker 4: That is true, all right, another head coaching higher. 2593 01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:44,640 Speaker 1: Yesterday, Todd Munkin goes to the Cleveland Browns, and yes, 2594 01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:48,040 Speaker 1: Patrick Lee Reid is leaving the Live Golf Tour to 2595 01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:49,880 Speaker 1: return to the PGA Tour. 2596 01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,120 Speaker 4: Not eligible to compete, I believe till August. 2597 01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:54,560 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, he's gonna try one thing. I do appreciate 2598 01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:56,560 Speaker 2: that Reid. He's gonna go play on the European Tour 2599 01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:59,040 Speaker 2: and try to earn more status. So you know, again, 2600 01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:01,040 Speaker 2: that's something that I do appreciate about. You know, even 2601 01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:04,280 Speaker 2: the Koepka coming back and or the Patrick Reid. It's 2602 01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:07,480 Speaker 2: not like, hey, you're just being handed. You know, all 2603 01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:10,040 Speaker 2: these events per se. You know, Brooks obviously is won 2604 01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:12,400 Speaker 2: a lot of majors. Patrick Reed's a pass champions, so 2605 01:56:12,440 --> 01:56:14,320 Speaker 2: they do get some status. But to earn more in 2606 01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:16,040 Speaker 2: Patrick Reid's case, he's gonna have to go earn it 2607 01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:17,480 Speaker 2: on the European Tour. 2608 01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:21,080 Speaker 5: So I do appreciate that aspect. 2609 01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:22,720 Speaker 1: Of it, all right, anything else you want to throw 2610 01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:24,240 Speaker 1: in before we head to break. 2611 01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:26,200 Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, I mentioned it, you know, throughout the show. 2612 01:56:26,280 --> 01:56:29,400 Speaker 2: So Cotton Thenner have had this of Bud Arright, the 2613 01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:31,320 Speaker 2: all time winners coach in high school football here in 2614 01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:34,400 Speaker 2: the state of Indiana. Southwood. He's coaching at the. 2615 01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:38,400 Speaker 4: Age of eighty five, and we don't doubt him, do we? 2616 01:56:38,680 --> 01:56:43,400 Speaker 2: Football coach four hundred and sixty four career wins for him. 2617 01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:46,080 Speaker 2: He was an assistant at North Miami. I believe that's 2618 01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:49,400 Speaker 2: the alma mater of the great great Ruth Riley there 2619 01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:52,960 Speaker 2: last season, so there you go, Larry Budd right, didn't 2620 01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:54,640 Speaker 2: look like a great night from mid majors in the state. 2621 01:56:54,680 --> 01:56:59,840 Speaker 2: A lot of them were playing IU, Indy, Evansville, valpo Fort. 2622 01:57:00,280 --> 01:57:02,880 Speaker 2: I think all of them suffered setbacks. To get the 2623 01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:05,240 Speaker 2: story of the year from a mid major standpoint, Maam 2624 01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:08,680 Speaker 2: of Ohio. We'll talk with Rakestraw about it again tomorrow. 2625 01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:11,760 Speaker 2: They are undefeated on the year, not just Pete Suitor, 2626 01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:14,520 Speaker 2: Justin Kirby from Fishers as well, Travis Steele and that 2627 01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:17,080 Speaker 2: staff has a ton of Indiana flavor on it. Of course, 2628 01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:20,120 Speaker 2: maaem Ohio geographically is not as close as you're going 2629 01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:22,680 Speaker 2: to get here to the state of Indiana, and shout 2630 01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:26,160 Speaker 2: out as well to Josh Shirtz, the former Indiana State coach. 2631 01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:28,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if Saint Louis qualifies as a mid 2632 01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:32,520 Speaker 2: mid major, but they have just one loss in the season. 2633 01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:36,080 Speaker 2: They are also ranked, so I don't know how much 2634 01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:38,840 Speaker 2: Indiana flavor will get in the bracket per se. But 2635 01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:41,400 Speaker 2: a couple of those storylines to watch here as we 2636 01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:42,360 Speaker 2: get closer to March. 2637 01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:45,480 Speaker 1: You mentioned Miami of Ohio. It's not terribly far from Dayton, 2638 01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:48,080 Speaker 1: But have you been to Oxford, Ohio, Caleb and your 2639 01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:48,920 Speaker 1: Ohio Travis. 2640 01:57:49,040 --> 01:57:50,560 Speaker 2: I actually have lots of times. 2641 01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:54,480 Speaker 1: My stepfather was a graduate, got a graduate degree at 2642 01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:55,440 Speaker 1: the Miami all. 2643 01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:57,640 Speaker 3: It's a good place, despite them being rivals with my 2644 01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:01,040 Speaker 3: alma mater. Yeah, good Miama, how's a good place. 2645 01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:01,720 Speaker 4: All right. 2646 01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:03,960 Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the world of sports. We'll come 2647 01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:06,760 Speaker 1: back talk a little bit more about some college basketball 2648 01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:08,640 Speaker 1: in a moment. Ninety three five, one oh seven five 2649 01:58:08,640 --> 01:58:15,680 Speaker 1: of the Fan, Little Caleb Zuver flavor right there the 2650 01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:18,120 Speaker 1: nine o'clock hour here on the ninety three five one 2651 01:58:18,200 --> 01:58:19,800 Speaker 1: or seven five the fan he's in for the as 2652 01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:22,440 Speaker 1: I mentioned, is there a better way to describe it, 2653 01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:24,640 Speaker 1: Kevin than the ever vacationing Mark Dyton. 2654 01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:28,600 Speaker 2: You're the one that signs off on the piece. He's 2655 01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:29,480 Speaker 2: been here for a long time. 2656 01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:31,200 Speaker 4: He takes like a day or two at the end 2657 01:58:31,200 --> 01:58:32,560 Speaker 4: of a week here and there all the time. 2658 01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:37,320 Speaker 1: I don't blame I don't blame his strategy necessarily, but 2659 01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:39,040 Speaker 1: he will be back on Monday. 2660 01:58:39,080 --> 01:58:42,080 Speaker 4: We are happy to have Caleb Zuber in today. 2661 01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:44,000 Speaker 1: Doing our thing. And Caleb, since you are in for 2662 01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:46,880 Speaker 1: Mark Dyton today, I assigned you last night the task 2663 01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:49,600 Speaker 1: of coming up with some questions for I gotta know, 2664 01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:52,120 Speaker 1: and so let's hit it all right. 2665 01:58:52,640 --> 01:58:53,200 Speaker 2: Let's do this. 2666 01:58:54,680 --> 01:58:57,440 Speaker 3: It is not Mark Dyton, is Caleb Zuver. I got 2667 01:58:57,520 --> 01:59:01,280 Speaker 3: four questions here. It's spent. I mean, I was burning 2668 01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:04,960 Speaker 3: the midnight oil last night when you send me that text, Jeff. 2669 01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:06,520 Speaker 2: First one. 2670 01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:08,920 Speaker 4: We'll start with some sports stuff here. 2671 01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:11,800 Speaker 3: I gotta know, we kind of maybe covered this in 2672 01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:14,600 Speaker 3: the show today, but I gotta know, well, the Pacers 2673 01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:18,280 Speaker 3: make a trade within the next week when the deadline hits. 2674 01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:22,440 Speaker 1: Still looking for a center, Kevin Bowen, Are there centers 2675 01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:24,680 Speaker 1: to be had out there, and are you of them 2676 01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:27,880 Speaker 1: just a major upgrade over what the Pacers have been 2677 01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:29,200 Speaker 1: using all season long. 2678 01:59:29,360 --> 01:59:31,320 Speaker 2: Well, I think if you want a trade, you should 2679 01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:35,120 Speaker 2: cheer for Yannis to be moved. Honestly, I think to quote, 2680 01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:38,200 Speaker 2: you know, when I listen to the IndyCar races, sometimes 2681 01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:42,760 Speaker 2: you hear the announcers say cautions, breed cautions. I think 2682 01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:46,280 Speaker 2: trades breed trades. So I think Giannis Domino would lead 2683 01:59:46,360 --> 01:59:48,760 Speaker 2: to some action. I'll say, yes, Caleb, I will say 2684 01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:52,720 Speaker 2: we will see a trade here in the next seven days. 2685 01:59:55,000 --> 01:59:57,400 Speaker 4: Pacers have got to find the center somewhere. 2686 01:59:57,640 --> 01:59:59,360 Speaker 1: If not for the rest of the season, they certainly 2687 01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:02,120 Speaker 1: need to find one by the time Tyrese Haliburton gets 2688 02:00:02,200 --> 02:00:03,120 Speaker 1: back next year. 2689 02:00:03,480 --> 02:00:05,000 Speaker 4: I'd imagine they get a little bit. 2690 02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Of help in the front court when Obi Toppin comes 2691 02:00:07,080 --> 02:00:08,320 Speaker 1: back whenever that's going to be. 2692 02:00:08,680 --> 02:00:09,120 Speaker 2: But he's not. 2693 02:00:09,320 --> 02:00:11,080 Speaker 4: Obviously a true true center. 2694 02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:13,520 Speaker 1: They need a center, and unless they're just going to 2695 02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:16,400 Speaker 1: hang out and try to draft bigger guys or go 2696 02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:19,200 Speaker 1: after somebody in the off season, I think they have 2697 02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:21,360 Speaker 1: to take all phone calls at this point in time. 2698 02:00:21,400 --> 02:00:23,520 Speaker 4: I just don't know who's out. 2699 02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:26,840 Speaker 1: There that you say yourself, man, I'm really really glad 2700 02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:28,000 Speaker 1: we got that right now. 2701 02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:31,440 Speaker 4: I don't know Jordan Poole, a guy like that, take 2702 02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:33,680 Speaker 4: a flyer, you know what I'm saying. That doesn't it 2703 02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:37,080 Speaker 4: doesn't flow your boat doesn't. No thanks, But that's what's 2704 02:00:37,080 --> 02:00:37,440 Speaker 4: out there. 2705 02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:38,160 Speaker 1: That's my point. 2706 02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:41,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I could see them getting involved in 2707 02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:44,080 Speaker 3: a three team or four team trade, just as a 2708 02:00:44,560 --> 02:00:47,200 Speaker 3: maybe a salary filler, salary dump, or whatever the case 2709 02:00:47,320 --> 02:00:50,920 Speaker 3: may be, maybe trading some second round picks. I think 2710 02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:53,280 Speaker 3: that's maybe more of what we're gonna see. By the way, 2711 02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:56,560 Speaker 3: on the poll, I know I said sixty forty look 2712 02:00:56,600 --> 02:01:00,800 Speaker 3: at you a we are right there with fifty nine 2713 02:01:00,880 --> 02:01:04,760 Speaker 3: point three percent. Wow, forty point seven percent yes, eighty 2714 02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:05,800 Speaker 3: six votes. 2715 02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:07,920 Speaker 4: In on that, we may start calling you the oracle. 2716 02:01:09,160 --> 02:01:12,240 Speaker 2: There are some Patiers fans clearly that are putting their 2717 02:01:12,280 --> 02:01:15,400 Speaker 2: Yanna's differences to the side with that and again that trade. 2718 02:01:15,400 --> 02:01:18,960 Speaker 2: Excepting everybody we threw it out there earlier, Pascal Siakam, 2719 02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:21,280 Speaker 2: Ben Nick Mather in a first round pick next year 2720 02:01:21,480 --> 02:01:25,120 Speaker 2: for Jannis. Listener Matt tossed that our way, So Kayla 2721 02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:27,960 Speaker 2: put it out on a pull fan morning show on Twitter. 2722 02:01:28,200 --> 02:01:28,760 Speaker 2: Second one. 2723 02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:34,400 Speaker 3: I gotta know if Perdue will be a top four 2724 02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:37,560 Speaker 3: seed in the Big Ten tournament. I have the standings here, 2725 02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:42,160 Speaker 3: and if you look at it, Michigan, Michigan State, Nebraska 2726 02:01:42,280 --> 02:01:45,560 Speaker 3: all at nine and one, Illinois eight and one, Perdue 2727 02:01:45,600 --> 02:01:46,800 Speaker 3: at seven and three. 2728 02:01:47,240 --> 02:01:50,080 Speaker 2: Right now, they wouldn't get the double by It's kind 2729 02:01:50,080 --> 02:01:51,800 Speaker 2: of wild like they might they You can make a 2730 02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:53,360 Speaker 2: case they have a better chance for a top four 2731 02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:55,160 Speaker 2: seed in the Big Tournament than they do in the 2732 02:01:55,200 --> 02:01:58,640 Speaker 2: Big Ten, just because their non conference was so you know, promising, 2733 02:01:58,760 --> 02:02:01,200 Speaker 2: with you know, winning at out Obama Texas Tech on 2734 02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:03,960 Speaker 2: the neutral floor. They have some nice wins there. I 2735 02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:06,200 Speaker 2: will say they clawed their way back. They've already done 2736 02:02:06,200 --> 02:02:09,920 Speaker 2: their Western trip, I believe I'm not mistaken. Michigan State 2737 02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:14,360 Speaker 2: and Michigan are both at home this year. I think 2738 02:02:14,440 --> 02:02:17,360 Speaker 2: that's part of their schedule, so I know there are 2739 02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:19,200 Speaker 2: still some other, you know, very notable game. I want 2740 02:02:19,240 --> 02:02:21,680 Speaker 2: to say they go to Illinois maybe, uh, but I 2741 02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:25,760 Speaker 2: will say they will be a top four seed right now. 2742 02:02:26,120 --> 02:02:30,800 Speaker 1: CBS bracketology has them as a three seed. I can't 2743 02:02:30,840 --> 02:02:33,280 Speaker 1: imagine they don't get anything but better from here on 2744 02:02:33,440 --> 02:02:34,320 Speaker 1: out the rest of the season. 2745 02:02:34,360 --> 02:02:36,800 Speaker 2: Well, again, Calebs asking Big ten, not Big ten. 2746 02:02:36,880 --> 02:02:37,720 Speaker 4: I get that Big ten. 2747 02:02:38,360 --> 02:02:40,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're probably right, four or five something 2748 02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:41,120 Speaker 1: like that. 2749 02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:43,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's going to be really interesting to 2750 02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:47,360 Speaker 3: watch because could this be the year for the Big ten? 2751 02:02:47,640 --> 02:02:50,160 Speaker 4: No, boy, I mean it's it's the question we ask 2752 02:02:50,320 --> 02:02:51,400 Speaker 4: every single year. 2753 02:02:51,520 --> 02:02:54,240 Speaker 2: But geez man, those are some really good teams. 2754 02:02:54,280 --> 02:02:55,480 Speaker 1: Michigan looks really good. 2755 02:02:55,640 --> 02:02:58,440 Speaker 4: Yes, Arizona looked tremendous against the. 2756 02:02:58,440 --> 02:03:02,240 Speaker 2: Other on the road without rink masts and they nearly 2757 02:03:02,280 --> 02:03:05,360 Speaker 2: win the game. So, you know, obviously winning six in 2758 02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:08,040 Speaker 2: a row in March and April, the Big ten. I mean, hell, 2759 02:03:08,040 --> 02:03:09,600 Speaker 2: we haven't seen that many Big ten teams even in 2760 02:03:09,640 --> 02:03:13,920 Speaker 2: the final four really here in recent recent years. So yeah, 2761 02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:16,920 Speaker 2: that is a really great question. I you know, it'll 2762 02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:18,560 Speaker 2: be one of those weird things we get to the tournament. 2763 02:03:18,600 --> 02:03:21,360 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, boy, how many top three seeds 2764 02:03:21,360 --> 02:03:22,840 Speaker 2: will be out of the Big ten, top four seeds 2765 02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:23,680 Speaker 2: will be out of the Big ten? 2766 02:03:23,840 --> 02:03:26,480 Speaker 1: Well, I bring up Arizona because they are clearly playing 2767 02:03:26,520 --> 02:03:28,320 Speaker 1: at a different level right now. They are twenty one 2768 02:03:28,360 --> 02:03:30,760 Speaker 1: to zero, but I think Michigan could hang with them. 2769 02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:33,440 Speaker 2: Well, that was my don't sleep on Yukon because I 2770 02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:35,600 Speaker 2: know they lost Arizona, but they didn't have Terance Reid 2771 02:03:35,640 --> 02:03:38,160 Speaker 2: for that matchup. They didn't have braandlen Bowllens for that matchup. 2772 02:03:38,400 --> 02:03:41,000 Speaker 2: And I can't wait for Yukon Saint John's. I believe 2773 02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:43,280 Speaker 2: it's next week because Saint John's starting to play good ball. 2774 02:03:43,360 --> 02:03:45,440 Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to that one, all right. 2775 02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:47,520 Speaker 3: I am going to say that Perdue will call their 2776 02:03:47,600 --> 02:03:52,280 Speaker 3: way back in as well next one. I know Jeff 2777 02:03:52,600 --> 02:03:55,160 Speaker 3: in the past has pointed out I am a single man, 2778 02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:58,440 Speaker 3: and he has made that known to the wide audience. 2779 02:03:58,600 --> 02:04:01,520 Speaker 2: I'm trying to have a Taylor. Maybe you can help 2780 02:04:01,600 --> 02:04:01,880 Speaker 2: me here. 2781 02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:05,160 Speaker 3: This Valentine's Day won't be an issue, but it is 2782 02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:09,440 Speaker 3: coming up, and I got to know the perfect way 2783 02:04:09,720 --> 02:04:11,200 Speaker 3: to spend Valentine's Day. 2784 02:04:13,160 --> 02:04:16,040 Speaker 1: There are different seasons in life sometimes. 2785 02:04:16,720 --> 02:04:21,520 Speaker 3: And you learn to got our love proper cared for everybody, 2786 02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:23,040 Speaker 3: Doctor Jeff Rickard. 2787 02:04:23,520 --> 02:04:26,480 Speaker 1: Properly appreciate the person you have been with. You know, 2788 02:04:26,600 --> 02:04:28,760 Speaker 1: my wife and I have been together for about twenty 2789 02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:31,040 Speaker 1: four years. Coming up to sell me some are we've 2790 02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:35,480 Speaker 1: been married for little over twenty one, and I will 2791 02:04:35,640 --> 02:04:39,120 Speaker 1: say I will admit I'm not always perfect at this 2792 02:04:39,520 --> 02:04:42,480 Speaker 1: and I'm not probably the best gift giver, although I 2793 02:04:42,760 --> 02:04:45,840 Speaker 1: have tried at times. But my wife's birthday is a 2794 02:04:45,920 --> 02:04:49,760 Speaker 1: week before Valentine's Day, and in the past I have 2795 02:04:49,920 --> 02:04:52,720 Speaker 1: wanted to have the eight what I call the eight 2796 02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:55,080 Speaker 1: Days of Christine and do something each day. 2797 02:04:55,720 --> 02:04:57,960 Speaker 4: I have probably not kept up with that as well 2798 02:04:58,040 --> 02:04:59,880 Speaker 4: as I need to, but I try to. 2799 02:05:00,320 --> 02:05:02,200 Speaker 1: Her big thing is she's one of those people does like, 2800 02:05:02,720 --> 02:05:04,400 Speaker 1: don't spend money, Let's save it so we can go 2801 02:05:04,520 --> 02:05:06,200 Speaker 1: travel someplace, is her big thing. 2802 02:05:06,360 --> 02:05:08,200 Speaker 4: But I'll try to come up with something pretty cool. 2803 02:05:08,240 --> 02:05:09,000 Speaker 4: What about you, Kevin? 2804 02:05:09,560 --> 02:05:11,800 Speaker 2: Here you go a little hour long coaching session after 2805 02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:14,680 Speaker 2: the show. Here Caleb slide into jeff Rickords's office and 2806 02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:17,760 Speaker 2: all of a sudden be winding done on the romance, 2807 02:05:17,840 --> 02:05:19,960 Speaker 2: and I love eight Days of Christine. Sounds like a 2808 02:05:20,040 --> 02:05:23,040 Speaker 2: terrific idea. In all seriousness, I am very lucky that 2809 02:05:23,120 --> 02:05:27,880 Speaker 2: my wedding anniversary is February sixteenth and Valentine's Day. Wow, 2810 02:05:28,160 --> 02:05:30,800 Speaker 2: you know pretty much there so wow. Unfortunately we did 2811 02:05:30,840 --> 02:05:33,080 Speaker 2: not have this weather. We actually had fifty degree weather. 2812 02:05:33,120 --> 02:05:35,760 Speaker 2: It took pictures over a butler. It was very very 2813 02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:40,320 Speaker 2: fortunate there, So yeah, Caleb, I married a great, great, 2814 02:05:40,480 --> 02:05:44,240 Speaker 2: great great woman who is very much like the Hey, 2815 02:05:44,440 --> 02:05:47,040 Speaker 2: let's just combine with the anniversary. Let's do something, you know, 2816 02:05:47,120 --> 02:05:48,200 Speaker 2: along those lines. 2817 02:05:48,680 --> 02:05:50,440 Speaker 1: You have kind of a similar thing going on in 2818 02:05:50,600 --> 02:05:51,240 Speaker 1: terms of time. 2819 02:05:51,120 --> 02:05:52,560 Speaker 2: Now day, Caleb, if you want to sneak it in, 2820 02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:54,640 Speaker 2: I believe we've got a couple days left here, Devoured Indy, 2821 02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:58,320 Speaker 2: and shout out to our local businesses because unfortunately, when 2822 02:05:58,320 --> 02:06:01,880 Speaker 2: we get weather like this, they lose multiple days of 2823 02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:05,320 Speaker 2: you know, potentially us you know, venturing out there. So 2824 02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:08,480 Speaker 2: definitely check out local businesses Devoured into your some great 2825 02:06:08,560 --> 02:06:11,680 Speaker 2: menus there, if I must say so, we've done it 2826 02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:14,760 Speaker 2: before where honestly we just kind of share one of 2827 02:06:14,800 --> 02:06:17,040 Speaker 2: the devour menus and then you know, maybe get one 2828 02:06:17,120 --> 02:06:19,680 Speaker 2: extra item there. So I think we honestly might do 2829 02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:21,760 Speaker 2: that here. Here's coming up this week, and I believe 2830 02:06:21,800 --> 02:06:22,360 Speaker 2: it ends. 2831 02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:24,960 Speaker 4: On the first. Yes, that's it's a great idea. And 2832 02:06:25,280 --> 02:06:29,200 Speaker 4: here's the biggest thing. Learn her love language and feed it. 2833 02:06:29,600 --> 02:06:33,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's the key. I literally just saw Caleb take 2834 02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:34,000 Speaker 2: out his notebook. 2835 02:06:34,040 --> 02:06:35,640 Speaker 4: I did write some stuff down there. 2836 02:06:35,760 --> 02:06:37,760 Speaker 2: I mean, look at that now, can I can I 2837 02:06:37,840 --> 02:06:38,520 Speaker 2: toss one year? 2838 02:06:38,560 --> 02:06:38,720 Speaker 8: Guys? 2839 02:06:38,800 --> 02:06:41,320 Speaker 2: Way? Yeah? So where about ready hit or break? I 2840 02:06:41,360 --> 02:06:43,560 Speaker 2: think I told you yesterday car didn't start how to 2841 02:06:43,600 --> 02:06:48,040 Speaker 2: take the other car in? So jump it yesterday afternoon 2842 02:06:48,600 --> 02:06:51,720 Speaker 2: drove it around for about five minutes. Didn't want to 2843 02:06:51,760 --> 02:06:53,280 Speaker 2: be you know, I just didn't have time to be 2844 02:06:53,400 --> 02:06:55,440 Speaker 2: driving around for ten or fifteen minutes. I go out 2845 02:06:55,480 --> 02:07:00,200 Speaker 2: there this morning, six am, fire it up. Nothing up 2846 02:07:00,200 --> 02:07:00,760 Speaker 2: in at this morning? 2847 02:07:01,720 --> 02:07:01,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 2848 02:07:02,200 --> 02:07:06,000 Speaker 2: Is that dangerous now? I drove it about twenty minutes 2849 02:07:06,040 --> 02:07:08,080 Speaker 2: into work, so I drove it for longer this morning. 2850 02:07:08,160 --> 02:07:10,640 Speaker 2: Once it was jumped, I'm nervous. I'm thinking about going 2851 02:07:10,680 --> 02:07:13,120 Speaker 2: out there during the break to start it. I want 2852 02:07:13,160 --> 02:07:15,600 Speaker 2: to know is it gonna start or not? Because if not, 2853 02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:18,560 Speaker 2: I screw your love doctor meeting. Boys, I'm gonna need 2854 02:07:18,560 --> 02:07:20,560 Speaker 2: some help. I got the cables in the back seat 2855 02:07:20,640 --> 02:07:23,480 Speaker 2: right now. So should I be worried about jumping my 2856 02:07:23,560 --> 02:07:26,320 Speaker 2: car potentially for a third time in eighteen hours? 2857 02:07:26,480 --> 02:07:29,240 Speaker 1: I would say, You've got a sixty to forty chance 2858 02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:32,200 Speaker 1: it'll start. We're up to three degrees now, covin three 2859 02:07:32,280 --> 02:07:33,440 Speaker 1: degrees out climbing. 2860 02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:36,600 Speaker 2: The sun was not out at six am this morning, dude. 2861 02:07:36,720 --> 02:07:39,480 Speaker 3: Like last night, I was actually driving and and my 2862 02:07:40,200 --> 02:07:42,080 Speaker 3: for some reason, I got you know, I got stuck 2863 02:07:42,360 --> 02:07:44,000 Speaker 3: one of the roads wasn't PLoud, but I got out 2864 02:07:44,040 --> 02:07:45,120 Speaker 3: after about thirty seconds. 2865 02:07:45,280 --> 02:07:46,040 Speaker 2: And then I looked down. 2866 02:07:46,240 --> 02:07:49,360 Speaker 3: My engine light, my tire pressure, my steering wheel light 2867 02:07:49,760 --> 02:07:51,960 Speaker 3: all came on at the same time, and I was like, 2868 02:07:52,080 --> 02:07:54,480 Speaker 3: what is happening here? And I think it was just 2869 02:07:54,840 --> 02:07:57,120 Speaker 3: the sensors were messed up. So we're all good now. 2870 02:07:57,200 --> 02:07:59,960 Speaker 3: But the cold and the snow does some weird stuff 2871 02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:00,640 Speaker 3: off to your car. 2872 02:08:00,840 --> 02:08:03,040 Speaker 2: Man, you just never know. So do you think a 2873 02:08:03,120 --> 02:08:03,760 Speaker 2: battery shot? 2874 02:08:04,120 --> 02:08:05,320 Speaker 4: I think the battery shot. 2875 02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:07,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if they make them this way, but 2876 02:08:07,800 --> 02:08:09,480 Speaker 1: in the older days, he used to be able to 2877 02:08:09,600 --> 02:08:15,160 Speaker 1: like plug your car into like it would be an 2878 02:08:15,200 --> 02:08:17,000 Speaker 1: extension court that would run up to your house. And 2879 02:08:17,320 --> 02:08:19,360 Speaker 1: I know that when I was young. My first job 2880 02:08:19,360 --> 02:08:21,520 Speaker 1: I mentioned I was in Montana. It would get really 2881 02:08:21,760 --> 02:08:26,360 Speaker 1: cold there and you'd see people with like electric cords 2882 02:08:26,400 --> 02:08:29,760 Speaker 1: running from their car to the house. And I don't 2883 02:08:29,760 --> 02:08:32,320 Speaker 1: even know if they make those extensions for cars anymore 2884 02:08:32,440 --> 02:08:32,600 Speaker 1: or not. 2885 02:08:32,720 --> 02:08:34,360 Speaker 4: They probably don't, but that's way. 2886 02:08:34,680 --> 02:08:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure there are people over the age of fifty 2887 02:08:37,360 --> 02:08:38,520 Speaker 1: that know what I'm talking about. There. 2888 02:08:40,720 --> 02:08:43,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, people are chiming in sounds like your battery is dead. 2889 02:08:43,320 --> 02:08:43,720 Speaker 6: Taking it in. 2890 02:08:44,920 --> 02:08:49,280 Speaker 4: We should get a poll going on that. Yeah, everybody 2891 02:08:49,280 --> 02:08:50,840 Speaker 4: who's participated, myself. 2892 02:08:50,880 --> 02:08:53,040 Speaker 2: Should I attempt to start it now? Or should I 2893 02:08:53,160 --> 02:08:53,480 Speaker 2: just wait? 2894 02:08:53,560 --> 02:08:56,440 Speaker 3: Hey, you got five minutes, so you can do that. 2895 02:08:56,760 --> 02:09:00,000 Speaker 3: You got time, all right, and we can come back 2896 02:09:00,160 --> 02:09:00,600 Speaker 3: with an answer. 2897 02:09:00,600 --> 02:09:02,880 Speaker 4: We'll watch from the windows like this idea. 2898 02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:05,880 Speaker 1: We'll watch from the windows as he races out there, 2899 02:09:06,080 --> 02:09:07,720 Speaker 1: tries to start the car and races back. 2900 02:09:07,800 --> 02:09:10,160 Speaker 4: Watch for ice, don't slip, don't fall. 2901 02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:12,880 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll have an answer that for you. 2902 02:09:13,000 --> 02:09:15,400 Speaker 1: Maybe if Kevin decides to go down that route. When 2903 02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:17,520 Speaker 1: we continue next, it's ninety three five and one on seven. 2904 02:09:20,520 --> 02:09:23,480 Speaker 4: All is right in the world of Kevin Bolling, then 2905 02:09:23,720 --> 02:09:26,240 Speaker 4: go the car has started. 2906 02:09:26,880 --> 02:09:29,200 Speaker 2: I called Caleb Zuber. I said, I need some music 2907 02:09:29,280 --> 02:09:30,080 Speaker 2: coming back, baby. 2908 02:09:30,280 --> 02:09:32,400 Speaker 1: See I was worried. I you know, you were calling Caleb. 2909 02:09:32,480 --> 02:09:34,360 Speaker 1: I was watching in our studio. He was in the 2910 02:09:34,480 --> 02:09:36,840 Speaker 1: next studio, and I'm We're both looking out the window. 2911 02:09:37,200 --> 02:09:38,520 Speaker 1: You get out of the car and the first thing 2912 02:09:38,560 --> 02:09:41,720 Speaker 1: you do is go to your phone. And my thought was, uh, oh, 2913 02:09:45,560 --> 02:09:47,520 Speaker 1: I thought we were going t a there for a second. 2914 02:09:47,560 --> 02:09:50,200 Speaker 2: Man, I don't know, maybe seeing the sunlight. Maybe driving 2915 02:09:50,280 --> 02:09:52,680 Speaker 2: it around for twenty minutes this morning. I don't know 2916 02:09:53,200 --> 02:09:55,360 Speaker 2: one of the car gods. I guess this makes up 2917 02:09:55,360 --> 02:09:56,280 Speaker 2: for Notre Dame losing the other. 2918 02:09:56,560 --> 02:09:58,640 Speaker 4: That's beautiful. Are a lot of people who've checked in and. 2919 02:09:58,680 --> 02:09:59,960 Speaker 2: Said so many people helping out. 2920 02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:02,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, And a lot of people were talking about the 2921 02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:05,480 Speaker 1: extension court thing I was mentioning a moment ago. Some 2922 02:10:05,680 --> 02:10:08,200 Speaker 1: said it was for diesel engines, which I get, but 2923 02:10:08,360 --> 02:10:11,160 Speaker 1: I had one on my accord that was installed back then, 2924 02:10:11,200 --> 02:10:12,680 Speaker 1: and then I couldn't remember what it was called. Aaron 2925 02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:15,760 Speaker 1: from Minnesota, though, reminded me engine block heaters. 2926 02:10:16,320 --> 02:10:18,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, people are chiming in about that engine block heaters. 2927 02:10:19,880 --> 02:10:20,400 Speaker 4: Maybe we need. 2928 02:10:20,560 --> 02:10:22,400 Speaker 1: Maybe this keeps up, we all may have to go 2929 02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:23,920 Speaker 1: get engine block heaters around. 2930 02:10:24,040 --> 02:10:25,680 Speaker 2: Some people are still telling me I should go to 2931 02:10:25,840 --> 02:10:29,400 Speaker 2: you insert your whatever AutoZone here or something to check 2932 02:10:29,480 --> 02:10:30,160 Speaker 2: the old battery. 2933 02:10:30,320 --> 02:10:33,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of better get a battery, man, But 2934 02:10:33,200 --> 02:10:33,720 Speaker 4: it started. 2935 02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:37,200 Speaker 2: Am I playing good right now on that? I don't know. 2936 02:10:37,360 --> 02:10:40,320 Speaker 1: I just want you to feel better for tomorrow, right, Yeah. 2937 02:10:40,480 --> 02:10:43,400 Speaker 1: Fish from Soup said, tell Jeffy's thinking of engine block heaters, 2938 02:10:44,040 --> 02:10:46,000 Speaker 1: which is mainly used for diesel vehicles, to keep the 2939 02:10:46,040 --> 02:10:49,200 Speaker 1: fuel from turning into jello. And the cold doesn't help batteries. 2940 02:10:49,240 --> 02:10:51,160 Speaker 1: And yes, Kevin, you should get a new battery, especially 2941 02:10:51,160 --> 02:10:53,400 Speaker 1: if yours is five years old or older. 2942 02:10:54,080 --> 02:10:54,560 Speaker 4: For some reason. 2943 02:10:54,560 --> 02:10:56,440 Speaker 1: I just remember everybody was plugging those in to make 2944 02:10:56,480 --> 02:10:58,760 Speaker 1: sure that the battery started. But maybe, like I said, 2945 02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:00,200 Speaker 1: I was young and didn't know what was goinging on. 2946 02:11:00,440 --> 02:11:02,800 Speaker 2: So and look at all seriousness with people right now 2947 02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:04,600 Speaker 2: and the I mean, obviously, first off, you think about 2948 02:11:04,600 --> 02:11:08,120 Speaker 2: homeless people, but like everybody that's working outside and like 2949 02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:12,000 Speaker 2: tremendous people that a it's their jobs to be outdoors 2950 02:11:12,320 --> 02:11:16,040 Speaker 2: or you know, again, we park one car outside based 2951 02:11:16,040 --> 02:11:17,480 Speaker 2: off where we live. You know a lot of people 2952 02:11:17,480 --> 02:11:21,600 Speaker 2: are parking multiple cars outside. I mean it's just yeah, yeah, 2953 02:11:23,000 --> 02:11:24,800 Speaker 2: I mean this is probably I mean not the you know, 2954 02:11:25,120 --> 02:11:27,080 Speaker 2: get off my law. This is probably the worst weather 2955 02:11:27,160 --> 02:11:29,400 Speaker 2: I can remember us having in a long long time. 2956 02:11:29,600 --> 02:11:33,720 Speaker 2: The snow and the cold combo. It's just it's wild. Then, 2957 02:11:33,880 --> 02:11:35,040 Speaker 2: you know, I was just talking with somebody in the 2958 02:11:35,040 --> 02:11:38,200 Speaker 2: break room a few minutes ago. You know, it's weird. 2959 02:11:38,240 --> 02:11:41,160 Speaker 2: When Rakestraw and I drove up thirty one the other night, 2960 02:11:41,800 --> 02:11:44,080 Speaker 2: that was like a breeze it's you know, we don't 2961 02:11:44,120 --> 02:11:45,520 Speaker 2: use the have this with. The northern part of the 2962 02:11:45,600 --> 02:11:48,000 Speaker 2: state has got it a lot less than the southern 2963 02:11:48,160 --> 02:11:51,080 Speaker 2: part of the state. I guess if all the IU 2964 02:11:51,160 --> 02:11:54,280 Speaker 2: fans are going to get this ten to fourteen day euphoria, 2965 02:11:54,360 --> 02:11:56,400 Speaker 2: Purdue fans say, well, at least make our. 2966 02:11:56,360 --> 02:11:57,160 Speaker 5: Weather a little better. 2967 02:11:57,360 --> 02:12:00,760 Speaker 1: Well, I'm checking my weather up and it does say Indianapolis. 2968 02:12:00,920 --> 02:12:02,840 Speaker 1: I double checked this time. I didn't have it on 2969 02:12:04,360 --> 02:12:07,680 Speaker 1: another city like I did the last time. But it's 2970 02:12:07,720 --> 02:12:09,480 Speaker 1: not getting nice anytime soon. 2971 02:12:09,600 --> 02:12:11,200 Speaker 4: Kevin. Here's the ten day forecast. 2972 02:12:11,280 --> 02:12:12,560 Speaker 1: You ready for this, Well, it's got to get a 2973 02:12:12,600 --> 02:12:16,640 Speaker 1: little warmer, right, minus two today, minus two tomorrow. At 2974 02:12:16,680 --> 02:12:19,520 Speaker 1: these are lows, correct, those are the lows minus four. 2975 02:12:19,560 --> 02:12:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm talking. I'm thinking about your battery right now. Sure 2976 02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:26,000 Speaker 1: overnight okay, zero for a low on Sunday eleven on 2977 02:12:26,200 --> 02:12:29,800 Speaker 1: Monday Tuesday sixteen, Wednesday. 2978 02:12:29,480 --> 02:12:30,640 Speaker 4: Nineteen, Well, there we go. 2979 02:12:30,800 --> 02:12:31,960 Speaker 5: We'll be in shorts and t shirts. 2980 02:12:32,360 --> 02:12:34,600 Speaker 1: But I'm just thinking of your overnight lows for your 2981 02:12:34,680 --> 02:12:35,560 Speaker 1: battery right there. 2982 02:12:35,680 --> 02:12:38,680 Speaker 2: Man, I think I might go with all Parker in 2983 02:12:38,720 --> 02:12:43,760 Speaker 2: the garage tonight, put in reverse so then the front, 2984 02:12:44,560 --> 02:12:47,040 Speaker 2: you know, the front of the car is facing out, 2985 02:12:47,200 --> 02:12:47,840 Speaker 2: so then if I. 2986 02:12:47,880 --> 02:12:51,280 Speaker 5: Need to jump it, you know it'd be readily available 2987 02:12:51,400 --> 02:12:51,840 Speaker 5: to jump it. 2988 02:12:52,040 --> 02:12:52,400 Speaker 1: You know it. 2989 02:12:52,400 --> 02:12:55,000 Speaker 2: I'll save you a couple minutes there. It's so funny. 2990 02:12:55,080 --> 02:12:58,000 Speaker 2: I'm the least like handsy person in the entire I 2991 02:12:58,120 --> 02:13:00,240 Speaker 2: might make a run with you there, And I've is 2992 02:13:00,280 --> 02:13:02,240 Speaker 2: able to get a jump last night, and you know 2993 02:13:02,680 --> 02:13:05,040 Speaker 2: you would have thought I climbed Everest with Maddie's reaction. 2994 02:13:05,920 --> 02:13:07,880 Speaker 1: You know, when you buy something from the store like 2995 02:13:08,280 --> 02:13:10,440 Speaker 1: that you have to put together, whether it's a bookcase 2996 02:13:10,560 --> 02:13:11,160 Speaker 1: or something like that. 2997 02:13:12,600 --> 02:13:14,280 Speaker 4: My wife is always like, no, let me do that. 2998 02:13:16,960 --> 02:13:19,080 Speaker 4: I wish I could tell you a better story, but 2999 02:13:19,200 --> 02:13:19,840 Speaker 4: I'm not good at that. 3000 02:13:19,960 --> 02:13:22,680 Speaker 2: Well, no, I think the thing for me is always 3001 02:13:23,040 --> 02:13:23,560 Speaker 2: my dad. 3002 02:13:24,360 --> 02:13:26,840 Speaker 3: When he gets something like that, he tosses away the 3003 02:13:26,920 --> 02:13:28,800 Speaker 3: directions like I'll just figure it out myself. 3004 02:13:29,160 --> 02:13:31,320 Speaker 2: You know That's who my dad is. 3005 02:13:31,400 --> 02:13:33,480 Speaker 3: And I have learned like, no, you need to look 3006 02:13:33,520 --> 02:13:35,520 Speaker 3: at the directions on how to put something together. 3007 02:13:35,600 --> 02:13:36,680 Speaker 2: You're gonna miss a step. 3008 02:13:36,960 --> 02:13:39,240 Speaker 1: And I don't know what happened because my dad, he 3009 02:13:39,360 --> 02:13:42,120 Speaker 1: was an eagle scout. He could fix anything. My dad 3010 02:13:42,160 --> 02:13:45,320 Speaker 1: could fix anything. If something broke, he just he just 3011 02:13:45,440 --> 02:13:48,000 Speaker 1: fixed it. And I didn't get that gene. 3012 02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:48,920 Speaker 4: I don't know what happened there. 3013 02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:51,520 Speaker 1: Matthew writes in at two three nine ten seventy this morning, 3014 02:13:51,560 --> 02:13:53,760 Speaker 1: Good morning, mister Bowen. I suggest you look at a 3015 02:13:53,800 --> 02:13:56,240 Speaker 1: battery conditioner for the future. It's not that expensive and 3016 02:13:56,320 --> 02:13:58,800 Speaker 1: it can keep you from facing further issues with your car. 3017 02:13:59,360 --> 02:14:02,560 Speaker 4: Longtime tech. It's your first time listener, Matthew and Beechgrove. 3018 02:14:02,800 --> 02:14:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people you know, actually, Mark Dykiten, 3019 02:14:04,640 --> 02:14:06,800 Speaker 2: who's listening, I guess right now, he time and go 3020 02:14:06,840 --> 02:14:09,400 Speaker 2: to audit oone, get a free battery test and you'll 3021 02:14:09,440 --> 02:14:11,920 Speaker 2: know if it needs to be replaced. So yeah, I 3022 02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:14,760 Speaker 2: think that is I appreciate everybody chiming in here all. 3023 02:14:14,680 --> 02:14:18,040 Speaker 1: Right, kind of love that that's mostly what people are 3024 02:14:18,120 --> 02:14:19,760 Speaker 1: checking in with today because I think a lot of 3025 02:14:19,800 --> 02:14:22,280 Speaker 1: people are have dealt with or are dealing with the 3026 02:14:22,320 --> 02:14:25,120 Speaker 1: same thing. And Kevin, you've you've been in Indiana for 3027 02:14:25,240 --> 02:14:26,920 Speaker 1: your entire life. I've only been here for the last 3028 02:14:27,000 --> 02:14:29,960 Speaker 1: thirteen years or so. I don't remember it being this 3029 02:14:30,120 --> 02:14:31,960 Speaker 1: cold for this long since I moved here. 3030 02:14:32,560 --> 02:14:33,480 Speaker 4: That's what I'm going to remember. 3031 02:14:33,560 --> 02:14:37,480 Speaker 3: This show though, for guys, is the Giannis trade talk 3032 02:14:37,840 --> 02:14:41,320 Speaker 3: and Kevin's gonna get his car started, and. 3033 02:14:41,520 --> 02:14:45,080 Speaker 2: Rosie asking what the red Garter was? Yeah, that too? 3034 02:14:45,200 --> 02:14:47,200 Speaker 2: What was the answer, why are they talking about mom 3035 02:14:47,320 --> 02:14:47,960 Speaker 2: and the Red Guard? 3036 02:14:48,200 --> 02:14:49,440 Speaker 5: When Jeff said, call. 3037 02:14:49,480 --> 02:14:52,560 Speaker 1: Matt now, now you're just starting to online embellish. Now 3038 02:14:52,600 --> 02:14:53,760 Speaker 1: you're starting to embellish. 3039 02:14:53,920 --> 02:14:55,880 Speaker 2: I believe you did say Maddy's online too, And that 3040 02:14:56,040 --> 02:14:58,600 Speaker 2: sparked Rosie saying why are they talking about mommy and 3041 02:14:58,640 --> 02:14:59,200 Speaker 2: the red Garter? 3042 02:15:00,960 --> 02:15:01,080 Speaker 7: Oh? 3043 02:15:01,160 --> 02:15:02,360 Speaker 1: So she put the two together. 3044 02:15:02,440 --> 02:15:03,920 Speaker 4: I got you. There you go. 3045 02:15:05,600 --> 02:15:08,240 Speaker 1: But no, the Pacers coming off a big win last night, 3046 02:15:08,280 --> 02:15:11,400 Speaker 1: and really the biggest question for the Pacers immediately right now. 3047 02:15:11,440 --> 02:15:13,280 Speaker 1: It's fun to watch, It was a fun game to watch, 3048 02:15:13,320 --> 02:15:14,880 Speaker 1: fun fourth quarter to watch last night. 3049 02:15:15,240 --> 02:15:18,800 Speaker 4: Enjoyed all that. But are there legitimate moves to be 3050 02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:21,960 Speaker 4: made that will help this team in its long term future? 3051 02:15:22,240 --> 02:15:25,240 Speaker 2: As we approached the day, think this is a thought organizationally, 3052 02:15:25,320 --> 02:15:27,320 Speaker 2: I don't think it necessarily should be. And I get it. 3053 02:15:27,400 --> 02:15:29,360 Speaker 2: There are some people that are all about no, no, no, 3054 02:15:29,440 --> 02:15:31,760 Speaker 2: win win win every single season. You try to maximize 3055 02:15:31,760 --> 02:15:34,520 Speaker 2: your wins if you want to be eternal optimist. Again, 3056 02:15:34,560 --> 02:15:36,960 Speaker 2: the Pacers are still what ten out of a playing 3057 02:15:37,040 --> 02:15:40,760 Speaker 2: spot with forty games to go thirty games ago something 3058 02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:43,840 Speaker 2: like that. This is the healthiest they've been all season. 3059 02:15:45,120 --> 02:15:47,760 Speaker 2: Jenis Walker played last night. He was questionable outside of 3060 02:15:47,840 --> 02:15:51,600 Speaker 2: Obi Toppin. This is the core we thought. You know 3061 02:15:51,720 --> 02:15:55,720 Speaker 2: last night they ended the game without Matherin and Walker 3062 02:15:55,840 --> 02:15:58,360 Speaker 2: on the floor. You know, then they still had Nie 3063 02:15:58,480 --> 02:16:00,840 Speaker 2: Smith and them hard and see how coming it was 3064 02:16:00,920 --> 02:16:04,280 Speaker 2: Furfy and Huff with those other three there. So again, 3065 02:16:04,520 --> 02:16:10,080 Speaker 2: I don't think that should be a discussion topic organizationally. 3066 02:16:10,320 --> 02:16:12,160 Speaker 2: I think you have to think big picture. You have 3067 02:16:12,200 --> 02:16:15,000 Speaker 2: to live in reality. Realize you're probably not going to 3068 02:16:15,080 --> 02:16:17,160 Speaker 2: rattle off, you know, eight of ten. You don't have 3069 02:16:17,200 --> 02:16:18,720 Speaker 2: to do that about three different times the rest of 3070 02:16:18,760 --> 02:16:20,840 Speaker 2: the season in order to even make the play in. 3071 02:16:20,960 --> 02:16:24,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, thank you to Corey here red Guard Great 3072 02:16:24,720 --> 02:16:29,200 Speaker 2: Pizza Buffet. On Sundays after Colts home games, he chimes 3073 02:16:29,240 --> 02:16:32,240 Speaker 2: in with goo, I've heard, I've heard, not experienced, not. 3074 02:16:32,280 --> 02:16:36,879 Speaker 1: Google, everybody's heard. Verlin from Greenfield gets the last word today. 3075 02:16:37,400 --> 02:16:39,280 Speaker 1: He says, asking Auto Zone if you need a new 3076 02:16:39,320 --> 02:16:42,080 Speaker 1: battery is like asking McDonald's if you need a big Mac. 3077 02:16:44,320 --> 02:16:46,280 Speaker 1: With that, we will send you off into the day. 3078 02:16:46,840 --> 02:16:50,400 Speaker 1: Stay warm, keep those batteries going. Jake at nude, and 3079 02:16:50,560 --> 02:16:52,600 Speaker 1: I believe JMV is back at three today. 3080 02:16:53,120 --> 02:16:54,760 Speaker 4: Enjoy your broadcast day,