1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Lie from val Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. It seems quite obvious that the vast 3 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: majority of America and Americans don't understand what it took 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: to actually capture Nicholas Maduro, the not elected leader of Venezuela. 5 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be here, Good 6 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: to be with you. It took a lot. The practice, 7 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: the skill, the daring are the military expertise is a 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: huge part of the story. But a larger part of 9 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: the story, maybe a secondary part of the story is 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: the idea of what it is we've actually done here. 11 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: How does this now not only engage legally as people 12 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: question the constitutionality, which I think the president does have, 13 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: but rather what is the story that is now told 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: militarily to the rest of the world. Major Mike Leines 15 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: joins me. Right now, we retired United States Army West 16 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: Point graduate military analysts, Let's start with the basics here. 17 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: Talk to me about what you can as you've done 18 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: your research regarding this operation and what it took to 19 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: be able to get these helicopters landed, to get Maduro apprehended, 20 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: and then be able to leave without quite well, basically 21 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: a shot being fired at American troops. 22 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 2: Happy New Year, Tony. 23 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 3: No question, this was likely one of the most sophisticated 24 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 3: and important military missions in the history of our country 25 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: in that without done without any councilors whatsoever. One hundred 26 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: and fifty aircraft. But let's take it even step back further. 27 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: You know, I've been talking for months about what we're 28 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: doing in the Caribbean, why are we bringing all these 29 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: military assets there, and been talking to special operators about 30 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: what to do, and none of us, none of us 31 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: envisioned this kind of that was going to take place, 32 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: and it's because we just thought it would be too 33 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: high a body count. We just didn't think that the 34 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: country would tolerate the kind of casualties that normally would 35 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 3: go into this. The fact that there were no casualties 36 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: is just, you know, nothing short of miraculous. And so, 37 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 3: you know, we thought, you know, the army wasn't there, 38 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: and so because the army wasn't there, that we weren't 39 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: going to put twenty thousand troops on the beach someplace. 40 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: We weren't going to do a D Day type invasion here. 41 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 3: And so one hundred and fifty aircraft. First, take out 42 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: their air defense systems in layers. So if you've got 43 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: you know, Russian Essay three hundred systems. Now, once again 44 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: the United States shows that they're no, don't match for 45 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 3: anything that we've got. Then they turn the lights out 46 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: in Caracas and turn the lights out in the place, 47 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 3: go in, do a black Hawk down type xviill extraction 48 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: there and again seventy fifth rangers involved on the ground. 49 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: We've we're seeing the Cuban government report thirty two of 50 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: their security forces were killed. It's just the level of violence, security, 51 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: the level of god, the level of surprise, all those 52 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: things principles of war made it happen. 53 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: Is the only country in the world that could have 54 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: done a mission like that. 55 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned the missile defense system, the Essay 56 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: three hundred AD. There's the SSUE four hundred. I think 57 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: it's the SUE three hundred and the STUE four hundred essay, 58 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: but SU and this is a missile defense system created 59 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: by the Russians, owned by a fair amount of countries, 60 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: including some NATO nations like Turkey, and was meant to 61 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: be you know, the killer to r F thirty five 62 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: strike fighter. I want to get into that story in 63 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: just a moment, but let's go back to nobody would 64 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: have envisioned this type of takedown of Maduro. Talk to 65 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: me about what it was. 66 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: Right, the fact that he had surrounded himself both with 67 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: personnel in a fortress area, in a well inside the country, 68 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: in a military that had competency, and so it's possible 69 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: that the military was paid off. 70 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: And they knew that this was coming. 71 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: And from that perspective, we see that the current vice 72 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: president now is starting to cooperate there. 73 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: So they had the. 74 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: CIA, and what they did to lay the groundwork for 75 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: this operation was pretty substantial as well, because it obviously 76 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 3: didn't leak inside, It didn't get to Maduro and he 77 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: was not able to you know, we saw the story 78 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: about him getting in to a safe room, but the 79 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: point was the channel that was created, the pathway that 80 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 3: got the helicopters took to get to that spot, to 81 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: get there. Once there, how quickly they overwhelmed any of 82 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 3: the human security that was around him, knew exactly where 83 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 3: the building was, knew exactly all his habits. 84 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: You know. 85 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: The level of detail of the CIA did to set 86 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 3: the table for this was also pretty amazing. 87 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: Talking to Major Mike Lyons, retired United States Army Military Analysts, 88 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: West Point Graduate. You know, we talk about what it 89 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: took to set this up. They rebuilt his lack of 90 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: a better word, fortress where he was spending his time 91 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: on this military base, and people forget that it was 92 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: on a military base. They were able to duplicate it, 93 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: replicate it, and then they trained on it. It is 94 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: the stuff of movies, is what they did here. The 95 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: ability to keep this a secret. Right, First you have 96 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: the hit on the Iranian nuclear facilities, now you have this. 97 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: I have heard all sorts of things about Pete Hegseth 98 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 1: as the Secretary of War. I have heard about how 99 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 1: the non coms love him, maybe the officer corps sees 100 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: things differently, certainly how the media is desperate to get 101 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: him out and has been. And there are mistakes the 102 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: chat on signal and some other moves made on a 103 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: personnel level. But this is the second time, Major, where 104 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: we have seen absolute perfection from our military in a 105 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: way that people didn't think, as you're describing it, did 106 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: not think could happen? 107 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 4: Right? 108 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: Accept that good? Or is this the military actually now 109 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: being allowed to do what it. 110 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: Does well, maybe a little bit of both. 111 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 3: I think that they have good intent from the commander 112 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 3: in chief and from him they know what the mission is. 113 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: I have been reinforcing that there's professionals up and down 114 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: the line here, the JASAT commanders, even when it comes 115 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: to targeting those drug boats, right, I mean, they know 116 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: what they're doing, They are clear with their orders, they 117 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 3: recognize their legal That that whole kerfuffle about you know, 118 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 3: obeying ilegal orders and the like, was just just more 119 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: distraction that these professionals didn't need. The people that are 120 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: running our military are of the highest caliber, the highest 121 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,119 Speaker 3: commitment as to what they're doing. 122 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: And again in this in this particular. 123 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: Case, I'm sure there was a couple of times even 124 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 3: the Secretary felt that, boy, this is going to be 125 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: a real reach to try to do this, and the 126 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 3: fact that we pulled it off was just amazing. You know, 127 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: two things you heard General Kane talk about, you know, 128 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: kind of basically planning to fail. That's the difference between 129 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: this mission now and you know, I still have the 130 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: scars of nineteen eighty and what happened in Iran and 131 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: that desert and that failure of that mission, and the 132 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 3: fact that they didn't have you know, we don't have 133 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: on the same radio frequencies back then, the failures and 134 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: the silos that were created that without inter agency. We've 135 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: come from that spot to now where we are today, 136 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: where you heard General Kin talk about the joint force, 137 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 3: the joint force, and that's what this was all about, 138 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: all about the joint force. The fact that everybody did 139 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: their role, brought their core competency to the table. Helicopters, planes, navy, everything, 140 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: everybody did their role in this and that that's the secret. 141 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: Now, that's why the United States is the best military 142 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: the world. 143 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: It's also why the Russians are wallowing in novacane in 144 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: Ukraine because they just they fight still very siloed and 145 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: they can't break out. 146 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: Another separate issue. 147 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: Though, talking to Major Mike is retired United States Army 148 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: military analysts, let's get into how it's not a siloed 149 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: The Russians, the Chinese, the Iranians are all affected by this. 150 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: But I take it to the piece you wrote over 151 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: was it real clear policy or one of the real 152 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: clear places, which was about the Trump his doctrine of 153 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: visible leverage and how that plays into President Trump and 154 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: basically this rethink and this remodel of the Monroe doctrine 155 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,359 Speaker 1: James Monroe President James Monroe saying we must thwart European 156 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: influence in the Western hemisphere. Well, you take a look 157 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: at Venezuela and their connections to the Iranians, the Chinese, 158 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: and the Russians. Is is this? It is this the 159 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: proof and the message to the world that the Monroe 160 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: doctrine is well in effect and simply this hemisphere is 161 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: ours and you can go find someplace else to play. Yeah. 162 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely, So I'm glad you brought that up, because that's 163 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: exactly what ends up happening here is Trump now gains 164 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 3: the leverage of control. 165 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: Of Venezuelan oil. And I don't see anything wrong with that. 166 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: Okay, we we we we took Maduro out under the 167 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: guise of the drug cartel and that that that's that uh, 168 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: that that excuse soda, so to speak. But the bottom 169 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 3: line is now u US controlling Venezuela and controlling the 170 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 3: energy in the oil there is is the leverage that 171 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 3: Trump needs against China's the leverage that needs he needs 172 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: against Canada, I mean, of all things. And it's clearly 173 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: what he what he was after, which which again I 174 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: don't see if you're an American what is wrong with that. 175 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: And it's in our hemisphere, and it's not that the 176 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: Venezuelan people are going to be pour over it when 177 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: they're not going to be destitute of it. But we're 178 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 3: going to use it as leverage against the Cubans. We're 179 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 3: going to use it as leverage to restore democracy to 180 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 3: We're going to use his leverage to bring to bring, 181 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 3: you know, lift all the boats within our hemisphere. So 182 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: we've ignored South America for a long time. I think 183 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 3: it's it's pretty interesting that that people are concerned about, 184 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 3: you know, all of a sudden that that were the 185 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: mean people taking three hundred you know, three hundred billion 186 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: pairs of oil from the Venezuelans. 187 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: We're not doing that, but we are controlling it. 188 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: The Chinese are no longer getting it, the Russians won't 189 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: be able to sell military equipment to Venezuela anymore, and 190 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: the Uranians are gonna have to close down the drone 191 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 3: factory that they had set up in Venezuela. 192 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: Uh So, again all good. 193 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: I wouldn't go as far as calling it the don 194 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: Road doctor and I wouldn't go there with it. But 195 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: but this is this is a long time coming, and 196 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: I'm glad to see our country. 197 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: The president, President Trump and that presser on Saturday morning 198 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: referred to it as the Don Road doctrine. But to 199 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: the larger point, this is about sending the signal. This 200 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: certain there's no way to look at what happened and say, well, 201 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: this was a peaceful move. This was an austrageously strong 202 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: move that was meant to send the message. I I 203 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: have theory on what that message truly is, but how 204 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: do you see and others within the military analyst world, 205 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: how does that message received? And what was that message 206 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: to the rest of the world. 207 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 3: Oh, the message to first of all the Chinese and 208 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 3: is that We're not going to let you take any 209 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 3: foothold at all within our hemisphere. 210 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: That's number one. 211 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 3: So that first and foremost most support, I mean, the 212 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 3: Chinese delegation was there the day before. 213 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: Now again you. 214 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: Talk about, as we tell the fact that the Chinese 215 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 3: didn't know that the mission was going on, because if 216 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: they did know something this happened, they surely wouldn't have 217 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: put their people at risk of being anywhere near that place. 218 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 2: When this took place. 219 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: So again the level of secrecy, surprise, only the United 220 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: States going to have pulled this off. You know, we're 221 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 3: somewhat concerned about the Chinese military, obviously because of what 222 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: they've built, But at the end of the day, they 223 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 3: haven't fought in a war since nineteen seventy nine. 224 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: They didn't do well then, and. 225 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: Who knows what's going to happen once if the bullets 226 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 3: start flying. I still, you know, the Chinese couldn't possibly 227 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: get into Taiwan and take their leader like we did 228 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: and make that situation there any different, make it less kinetic. 229 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: So so again messages were sent to the Chinese, to 230 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 3: the Russians about their equipment they're gone, and surely to 231 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 3: the Uranians. So the Uranians wanted this oil as well. 232 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: The Chinese wanted this oil. The Chinese were looking for 233 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: the Venezuelan oil. So now all these tankers are going 234 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: to be seized and the world energy markets are totally different. 235 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: Talking to major Michaelons, retired United States Army military analysts, 236 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: let me stay on the topic and hit it from 237 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: another direction. The Chinese were in Venezuela. They were meeting 238 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: with Maduro, so were the Russians, and they were there 239 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: on the day in that twenty four hour period where 240 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: Maduro was taken. So your point of they clearly weren't 241 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: aware because they would have been nowhere near the place 242 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: and therefore tipping off Maduro that maybe something was an issue, 243 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: that is very true. Now. The other we said is 244 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: they knew exactly what the United States was going to 245 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: do and didn't tip their hands that they knew what 246 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: the United States was gonna do because it didn't affect them. 247 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: So we do have to ask ourselves what is it 248 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: that the Chinese are aware of? But you brought up 249 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: something that I have been saying, others have discussed. I 250 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: believe Gordon Chang is one of these people and others 251 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: the question of whether or not the Chinese are indeed 252 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: a paper tiger, whether or not they can actually sustain 253 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: a punch to the nose. Is this a basically a 254 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: taking away of affront in their desire for Belton Road 255 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: in trade, their desire for conquest and hegemony not only 256 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: in the Pacific grim but they've been working on spending 257 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: billions of dollars to have conquests in South America and 258 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: Central America, like they have in African nations. How much 259 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: does this thwart their plans and how would we be 260 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: able to see it militarily that it has. 261 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: Oh, it totally thwarts their plans. Again, it gets back 262 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: to energy. 263 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 3: They're not going to have the energy capability to project 264 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: the kind of power that they want to project throughout 265 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 3: the world. 266 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 2: This is the name of the game since the Second 267 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: World War. 268 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 3: I mean the Japanese failing to knock out the United 269 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 3: States energy reserves and gasoline and petroleum reserves when they 270 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: came into Pearl Harbor was one of the strategic mistakes 271 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: that they ended up making tactically first, but then obviously 272 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: it impacted them because it allowed the United States to 273 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 3: continue to continue. 274 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: The war there. 275 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 3: The Chinese have really have got to go back to 276 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: the basics now and go back to focusing on their 277 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 3: backyard and knowing that this president, like you heard Mark 278 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: Rubia say, he's going to say you know, he says 279 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: what he means, He's going to do what he says 280 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: he's going to do. 281 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: There's no more playing around about that. The leverage now 282 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: we have over. 283 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: China with this oil that it's not unlikely that Trump 284 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: does a deal with China that eventually allows venezuela and 285 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 3: oil to flow back to China. 286 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: But we're going to get something for it. There's something's 287 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: going to happen for it. 288 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 3: So again it gets back to the leverage and the 289 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 3: leverage that he created and gets it very clearly. 290 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: Anybody could see it. This is what's going on. 291 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: I've got more with Major Mike Lyons coming up in 292 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: just a little bit because there's a lot of moving 293 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: parts regarding this takedown in Madurero and what it means 294 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: the world over. Keep it here on, Tony Katz. This 295 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: is Tony Katz today. I don't think anybody would be 296 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: surprised that London and the Mayor Sadiq Khan, in his 297 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: infinite bigotry, would have issues with Israel. And you're like, Tony, 298 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: how did this become an Israel conversation? It wasn't because 299 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: I just decided to bring it up. It's because of 300 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: something that happened over New Year's when you take a 301 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: look at the New Year's celebration that they had in London. 302 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you, right. 303 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: They got whether they call the millennium wheel that they've 304 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: got going on there, and they put there on the 305 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: wheel all the flags of all the nations. They're all there, 306 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: are you you. Oh look there's a Palaestindian flag. There's 307 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: a Palestinian flag. Don't ask me, it's not even a place. 308 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: But there's an American flag, and there's this, that and 309 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: the other. Oh look, there's the Israeli flag right under 310 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: the flag of Japan. Except it's not the Israeli flag. 311 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: They had a flag that was white and it had 312 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: the two blue stripe, says the Israeli flag has at 313 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: the top and the bottom, and then of course in 314 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: the middle is the Star of David, the Jewish star. 315 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: Star is missing. The star is missing. The Israeli flag 316 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: is not the Israeli flag. The people of London, whoever 317 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: put on this event for New Year's erased the Israeli flag. 318 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: You will, maybe you just got to be impressed that 319 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: they had themselves in a year celebration, because so many 320 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: cities didn't for fear of Islamic terrorism of violence as 321 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: opposed to putting down the Islamists such massive force that 322 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: they simply scream, please stop hurting us. I'd rather just 323 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 1: be left alone. I'd rather than do none of this, 324 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: but they engage in violence everywhere they are, so they 325 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: have to be stopped. It's just reality. I don't want 326 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: to listen like you don't want to listen to these 327 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: people make the claim of oh, you're just an Islama folk. Ah, 328 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: why don't they just shut up? A fear of Islam, 329 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: a fear of terrorism, a fear of Islamic terrorists. Absolutely, 330 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: except I don't think it should be met with fear 331 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: and cowering. I think it should be met with such 332 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: overwhelming force that people wonder what's gonna happen next. If 333 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: anybody has to be afraid, I want it to be 334 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: Islamist now. I would rather that everybody left everybody else alone. 335 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: But Islamists don't do that. They don't do it, and 336 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: so in some cities around the world they don't even 337 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: have the celebration, but in London they just is erased 338 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: the Israeli flag. You understand the levels of bigotry here, 339 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: the levels of hate here, the levels of stupidity and 340 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: ignorance and arrogance. And this is all because of King Charles, 341 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: because he won't say stop it. Keir Starmer is a 342 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: damn fool. He's an ignorant man. He is an oath, 343 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: he is a buffoon, and he's going to lead the 344 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: UK into ruin. King Charles all the same things said 345 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: about him, except he didn't know how to handle Prince 346 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: Andrew or former Prince Andrew whatever's title is now, won't 347 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: stand up for the nation. So why it's all up 348 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: to William. Prince William is King William is either going 349 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: to save the monarchy and save the UK, save England 350 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: for only just for the memory of his grandmother, or 351 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: he's going to be the last king of England. That 352 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: is it. There is no other conversation, and he has 353 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: to start applying pressure to these elected officials. Who the 354 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: hell are you? We don't act at this level of 355 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: bigotry here. We support the UK first, and we recognize 356 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: that Israel is a nation and Palestine isn't just the 357 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: opposite of what the despicable Parliament did. He's got to 358 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 1: go on the record because if he's not willing to, well, 359 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: then I guess he agrees with them, and that means 360 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: the end of the royal line and he will be 361 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: the last to sit on the throne. And if that's 362 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: what he wants, that's what he gets if that's what 363 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: the future king wants. He wants it to end, and 364 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: he wants his children not to have this. Okay, But 365 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: as versus the Khan, the mayor, and as for London, 366 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: as for the UK, they know their biggots. My god, 367 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: I don't even I'm not even so sure they can come. 368 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 1: And I know you agree with them. Keep it here. 369 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: This is Tony Kats today. I don't think there's anything 370 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: wrong with saying that the taking of Aduro was about 371 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: the oil. I don't know why that's so frightening to 372 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: people or angering to people. Well, it's not angering to people. 373 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: It is angering to children who pro raid on the 374 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: leftist side. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be here, 375 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: Good to be with you. Mike Lions joins us right now. 376 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: Major Mike Lyons, retired United States Army military analysts. And 377 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: we've been having this conversation about the capture of Maduro, 378 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: and certainly the conversation that this is about oil is 379 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: a huge part of the story, just not how the 380 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: political left is engaged in that story because they want 381 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: to go out there and engage protests and no war 382 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: for oil, because they're never so happy as when they're protesting, 383 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: because that's the only place where they feel like. I 384 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: don't know, they have some purpose or some usefulness. But 385 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: I'll leave my politics aside just for a moment. I 386 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: want to get before we get into the oil conversation, 387 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: back to something you said about the defense systems, because 388 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: this taking of Maduro has now shown that you have 389 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: thirty two dead Cubans, which means Cuba was providing protection 390 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: for Maduro, which is a very strange thing to hear. 391 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: Year why would anybody think that the Cubans could actually 392 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: do this? And when you see how easily we were 393 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: able to get Blackhawks in and out, I believe it 394 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: was black Hawk helicopters, the Su three hundred, the Su 395 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: four hundred, this missile defense system that it's supposed to 396 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: be from the Russians, be able to take down patriots 397 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: and take down the F thirty five Strike Fighter from 398 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: the US. It was supposed to be the F thirty 399 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: five Killer. Turkey, which was instrumental in creating the F 400 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: thirty five, was actually a purchaser of the SU four hundred. 401 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it was infuriated the United States at the time. 402 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: And now we're saying that the Russian missile defense system 403 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: that the Turks purchased and was supposed to be able 404 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: to take out the F thirty five can't detect and 405 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: take down a helicopter. I mean, that's that is one 406 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: hell of an exposing and talk about weakening the Russians 407 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: to what extent? Is that accurate? 408 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 2: No, it's one hundred percent accurate. 409 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 3: And it's not only they can't take them out from 410 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,479 Speaker 3: the strategic level with that with that system, but they 411 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: couldn't even take it out from the tactical level. There 412 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 3: was no air defense systems that were around that fortress. 413 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: For example, I mean Blackhawk down was taken down by 414 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 3: you know, a very low grade system, you know, handheld 415 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 3: a system that that was able to hit the tail 416 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 3: road of a helicopter. 417 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 2: That created chaos for the United States. 418 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: The same thing could have happened here in SA seven 419 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 3: or something like that is what it was, or an 420 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 3: RPG I guess is what what took that down? 421 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: But they didn't even have that. 422 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: You know, we were able to get helicopters literally inside 423 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 3: the wire into the fortress and then you know, geta 424 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 3: asked the question about you know, if if Venezuela thinks 425 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 3: that we're they're being attacked. You know, they they have targets, 426 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 3: they could they could have hit the navy that was offshore, 427 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: like what would have happened. Then once they we attacked 428 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 3: multiple military sites there, it just again goes to show 429 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 3: they didn't scramble jets, they didn't do anything. They didn't 430 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 3: response to this whatsoever. Maybe they thought they were gonna 431 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 3: have to respond asymmetrically if troops are going to ever 432 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 3: show up. But there was again no respie sponts was 433 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: a really interesting sign. Maybe they were paid off, but 434 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 3: they also showed no capability. 435 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: Is it your contention as you take a look at 436 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: the Venezuelan military, which is not small by any stretch, 437 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: under the vice president, who is a Moduro loyalist, del Rodriguez. 438 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: The claim now is that she wants to desperately work 439 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: with the United States. But this is a technocrat, This 440 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: is somebody in the Maduro mold, and certainly is not 441 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: somebody who would still seem as legitimate, would not be 442 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: seen as legitimate by the Venezuelan people considering two stolen elections, right, 443 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: does the Venezuelan military have any capability to respond? Is 444 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: it even possible that they would try to respond against 445 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: our fifteen eleven warships in the Caribbean fifteen thousand troops there. 446 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: Now they couldn't. 447 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 3: The only way they could is if we had made 448 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 3: the mistake by doing the D Day type invasion that 449 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 3: I was talking about before, and we put twenty thousand 450 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: troops there and we actually did it an invasion, and 451 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 3: then you create the asymmetrical warfare where they would have 452 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: an advantage over And now we have a rock that 453 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 3: that's that's your rock analogy. But everyone projecting it right 454 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 3: now is way off base because it wasn't an invasion 455 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 3: and it wasn't regime change it. You know, we took 456 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 3: the leader out and they've got the same a person 457 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 3: that's running their country. 458 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: We didn't. 459 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 3: We didn't take out the henchmen. You saw that comment 460 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 3: that they wanted to know why we didn't take more 461 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 3: people out. We took the right guy out that that 462 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 3: that was indicted by US cord A law and brought 463 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 3: him to justice. So again, without having troops on the 464 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 3: ground there, we would be it would be a very 465 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: bad move for us to invade Venezuela and bring ourselves 466 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 3: into this close battle where that then then perhaps they 467 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 3: would have some way to combat against them. 468 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: I have that clip if you want to hear it. 469 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: I have Margaret Brennan on CNN non CNN, on CBS, Yeah, 470 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: with one of the more peculiar arguments here it is. 471 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: This is her. She's speaking to the Secretary of State 472 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio and trying to make the argument of well, 473 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: you had Maduro on the most wanted list, right, Biden 474 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: and Harris offering up twenty five million dollars, but you 475 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: had all these other people, why didn't you take them 476 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: as well? This is Brennan asking the question, and then 477 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: Rubio answering, here is why. 478 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 4: The Trump administration decided to leave it intact and only 479 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 4: arrest Nicholas Maduro and his wife. The person who controls 480 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 4: the police, the chief thug ds Di Cabello. He's the 481 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 4: Interior Minister. He's been indicted by the United States. He 482 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 4: was in that indictment the administration released. He's a narco terrorist. 483 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 4: There's a twenty five million dollar price on his head. 484 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 4: He's still in place. The Defense minister, who is deep 485 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 4: ties to Russia, fifteen million dollar price on his head, 486 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 4: he is still in place. I'm confused. Are they still 487 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 4: wanted by the United States? Why didn't you arrest them? 488 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 4: If you are taking out the narco terrorist regime. 489 00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: You're confused. 490 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 5: I don't know why that's confusing to you. 491 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: You're still in me said, we're not. 492 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 5: Going to go in and wrap up. You're gonna but yeah, 493 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 5: but you can't go You're going to go in and 494 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 5: suck up five people. They're already complaining about this one operation. 495 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 5: Imagine the howls we would have from everybody else that 496 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 5: we actually had to go and stay there four days 497 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 5: to capture. 498 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: Four other people. 499 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: We got the top priority. 500 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 5: The number one person on the list was the guy 501 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 5: who claimed to be the president of the country that 502 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 5: he was not, and he was arrested along with his wife, 503 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 5: who was also indicted. And that was a pretty sophisticated 504 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 5: and frankly complicated operation. 505 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: It is not easy to. 506 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 5: Land helicopters in the middle of the largest military base 507 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 5: in the country. The guy lived on a military base, 508 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 5: land within three minutes, kick down his door, grab him, 509 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 5: put him in handcuffs, read him his rights, put him 510 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 5: in a helicopter, and leave the country without losing any 511 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 5: American or any American assets. That's not an easy mission. 512 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 5: And you're asking me, why didn't we do that in 513 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 5: five other places at the same time. 514 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: I mean, that's absurd. 515 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: You forget how good he is. Yeah, and he is 516 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: very very good. There is Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, 517 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: talking to Major Mike Clions, also very good, retired United 518 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: States Army military analyst. The oil. And you see the 519 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: screaming of no war for oil. This isn't about whether 520 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: or not the US is going to profit off the oil, 521 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: which knowing President Trump, of course we will. This is about, 522 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, to this is the economist Frederick Bostiat the 523 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: scene and the unseen. It's that the oil is not 524 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: going to end up in the hands of the Russians 525 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: or the Chinese. Right explain that it's that's geopolitical, that 526 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: military strategic importance of keeping the oil away from them 527 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: as a pretext to this capture. 528 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that simple. And how people don't think you 529 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 3: know that? I guess the MAGA crowd is saying, you know, 530 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 3: for some reason, the America first doesn't stop at our 531 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 3: the end of our shorelines and and and stop at 532 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 3: the oceans. America first means we act in the centers 533 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 3: of our country. And it's not in our interests of 534 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 3: our country to have Russia, China and Iran have access 535 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 3: to three hundred billion barrels of reserve crude oil. It's 536 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 3: just not it's in our best interest to have control 537 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 3: over that. So and if you don't see that, I 538 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 3: don't know what to tell you. So that's part of 539 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 3: this process. And sure we're not stealing it. We're not 540 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 3: going to make Venezuela destitute over it. It's going to 541 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: get more shared. It's going to be used as leverage 542 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 3: to fix situations like in Cuba. It's going to make 543 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 3: Mexico pay attention. Everyone is now I guessaid. I go 544 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 3: back to Canada. Canada thought that we're going to do 545 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: a deal with Trump on oil. Those days are over 546 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 3: now because Venezuela pumps the same kind of oil that 547 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: the Canada does, and if we decide to build an 548 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 3: infrastructure down there, then we don't necessarily need Canadian crude oil. 549 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 3: Now they'll maybe do a deal with China then who knows. 550 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 3: But again, the leverage that's been gained by this, but 551 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 3: oil energy has always been a strategic atchet in our lifetimes. 552 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: Tony in in our lifetimes. 553 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 3: It will always be as much as everybody wants to 554 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 3: go green and go some other locations not happening. It's 555 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 3: we're going to stay addicted to this product for a 556 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 3: very long time as a society, whether we like it 557 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 3: or not. 558 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: We could say addicted, and people can downplay it all 559 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: they want. We live in the real world, and oil 560 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: runs of the real world. And the real world also 561 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: involves keeping others at bay. And that's why this oil conversation, 562 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, it goes back to this Monroe Doctrine conversation. 563 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: And one of the things this shows is and it exposes, 564 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: is the capability of America's military might as opposed to 565 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: the Barack Obama years, as opposed to the Joe Biden years, 566 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: although he at least had some moves, there has been 567 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: a real desire not to show our strength and our capability. 568 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: Now I'm not a guy who is a fan of 569 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: military parades, but I am absolutely a fan of being 570 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: able to utilize our skill set in a way that 571 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: makes the world say, oh, dang, I didn't know they 572 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: could do that. Now that the world knows we can 573 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: do that. Twice twice, we've been able to do this 574 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: in less than a year. Is there a change that 575 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: you see to strategy globally? We have discussed whether or 576 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: not the threat is coming from Russia's invasion of Ukraine, 577 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: conversations in the Middle East in Iran, or is the 578 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: threat China and only China and that should be our 579 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: only focus. Has this been able to the utilization of 580 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: this skill set of ours? Has this been able to 581 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: help the Trump administration decide here's where our focus has 582 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: to be in Wine. 583 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 2: I think it's always good. 584 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 3: We're projecting power and creating that the turns that we've 585 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 3: long lost under. We had nothing under the Biden administration, 586 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 3: and Obama picked and chew you chose when he decided 587 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: to flex his muscle there. I think that the first 588 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 3: Trump administration was just so scattered that they. 589 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 2: Weren't really sure. 590 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 3: And him taking the four years off and assembling on 591 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 3: the team he has has put put put us in 592 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 3: place now for you know, you know, real missions. But 593 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 3: I'll bring up the thing about partners, because now it's 594 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 3: going to be a good time to be. 595 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: A partner of us. 596 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 3: And and what you know watching you know the Europeans, 597 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 3: you know, the Germans and the French, thinking that they're 598 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 3: gonna all of a sudden get together and stop the 599 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 3: Russians there. Everyone is delusional and they know it. And 600 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 3: so so now it's going to be a good time 601 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: to be to be a good partner of the United States. 602 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: And imagine if we turn a country like Venezuela and 603 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 3: make that a good partner. I mean, obviously we're going 604 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 3: to go after you know, some of the bad people 605 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 3: there look to hold an election at some point. But 606 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 3: but this Trump administration has the real possibility of projecting 607 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 3: power in such a way that gets democracy. I've always 608 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 3: felt that the United States, when we did a rock 609 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 3: we try to import democracy and we should have imported capitalism, 610 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 3: and and that if we've done that then then we 611 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 3: might not have seen the inserts you to took place. 612 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 2: Well, that's going to happen here. 613 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 3: We're going to likely improve the economic value of Venezuela first, 614 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 3: we're going to get that up and running, and then 615 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 3: we'll bring democracy second. 616 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: I think that's the way to go here. And when 617 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: you have the military. 618 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 3: That we have to do it now projects the power 619 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 3: that gives you the right to do it in that direction. 620 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: Before I let you go, Major Mike Lyons retired to 621 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: United States Army military analyst. In this conversation of oil, 622 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: and in this conversation of who has really got to 623 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: rethink now they're positioning, you have to bring up the 624 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: Iranians where the Iotola is losing control. There are massive 625 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: protests going on in Iran that the media is not covering. 626 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: Iran has executor over nineteen hundred people in twenty twenty 627 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: five alone that has been up. The sanctions are having 628 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: a real effect and people have had enough. They are 629 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: fighting back. And Venezuela was a place where the Iotola 630 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: man thought he could have escaped to. Another word on 631 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: the street is that he's trying to talk to Moscow 632 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: about being able to escape there, as if somehow Moscow 633 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: would actually want him. But the story here is with 634 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: this move and with this control of oil, it also 635 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: allows for a flood of oil, further decreasing the purchasing 636 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: power and capabilities of the Russians and the Iranians. So 637 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: if the Ayatola is watching this, what is that strategic 638 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: thinking in Iran right now? 639 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen it reports about him looking to go 640 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 3: to Moscow. 641 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: This again unthinkable on some level. 642 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 3: Irun greatest foreign policy failure our country post World War Two. 643 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 3: We've talked about that before, and the fact that he's 644 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 3: just going to tap out just is incredible to me. 645 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 3: That the Republican guards and the security forces are collapsing 646 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 3: around him as well. And I guess at some point 647 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 3: human nature takes over and survivability comes to the forefront, 648 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 3: and people look at that. First, we have to watch 649 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 3: Iran see what happens, because again, that's another tremendously resourceful, 650 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 3: intelligent country underneath this cloud of Islam that it's not 651 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 3: been allowed to project positively in the international community. I get, 652 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 3: you know, Obama tried to get them part of the 653 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 3: international community, but giving them four billion dollars of cash, 654 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 3: you know, all I did was fund Hamas and fun 655 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 3: terrorist organizations. If you could turn if you could turn 656 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 3: Iran away from that access of China, Russia in North Korea, 657 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 3: that would be nothing short than spectacular and maybe three 658 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 3: years from now, that's what we're talking about. But Iran, 659 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 3: there's a tipping point taking place in Iran right now. 660 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 3: We've also put C seventeens in London and in England. 661 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 3: It looks like that the Trump administration is saying that 662 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 3: if you if you harm those protesters, We're going to 663 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 3: do something. And we've got that capability now, so we'll 664 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 3: see what happens. 665 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: Major Mike Lyons, retired United States Army military analyst on 666 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: the Twitter X m Aj. Mike Lyons, l Yo NS 667 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: be sure to follow him there. I appreciate taking the 668 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: time to be with us and more we get to 669 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats today. So Maduro 670 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: is on trial in the United States. Tim Walls is 671 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: dropping out of the governor's race in Minnesota. My gosh, 672 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: things are moving and happening. And both of these things 673 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: are weirdly connected because it's a conversation of national security. 674 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: Because if we're gonna say, look at what Somali nationals did, 675 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: although more people than just Somali nationals are engaged in 676 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 1: the fraud in Minneapolis, who are we letting into the country, 677 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about MADUROA you gotta talk 678 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: about about national security because oil is national security. Because 679 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: our strength and the ability of the military to project 680 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: that power. I mean, this is huge stuff. Can the election, 681 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: the midterm elections be one on national security? Because the 682 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: original thought would be absolutely not this is an economic election, 683 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: don't be ridiculous. And I still think it is. But 684 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: what if this national security plays a part. I am 685 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: going to be fully engaged. January twenty fourth. You got 686 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: to join me. Ticketsdotonikats dot com. Tickets to Tony k 687 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: Get your tickets right now and enjoin me. January twenty fourth, Indianapolis, Indiana. 688 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: The bourbon, the food, the laughter, It's gonna be incredible. 689 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: Tickets dot Tonycotts dot com tomorrow. Everyone take care