1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: My name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there with 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: a very special guest on the hotline. 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: Paul Perez is the president of the National Border Patrol Council. 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 2: He joins us now. Paul, thank you for joining us. 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: And listen. 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: We've been hearing a lot about what's going on with Minnesota. 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: We had a big press conference yesterday with Tom Holman 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: and he mentioned that around seven hundred officers from ICE 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: will be leaving Minnesota, but they're still dealing with some 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: things up there. Just kind of catch everybody up to 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: date on what's happening with Border Patrol, ICE and all 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: things border related right now. 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you guys for having me. 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 4: I appreciate you coming on and so yeah, if we can, 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 4: you want to focus on Minneapolis specifically. What Tom Holman 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 4: has gone up there and done is reassess everything, look 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 4: at operations, making sure everything's targeted. And he's also gotten 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 4: some good quoest operation from a lot of the sheriffs. 19 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 4: And you know, the governor and the mayor out there 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 4: have agreed as long as they don't back down, they 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 4: have agreed to work with us to make sure that 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 4: we have access to the prisoners that we want to 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 4: take into custody and get out of this country so 24 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 4: that they're not released and allowed to commit more crimes. 25 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 3: So that's a big step. 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 4: And if he's able to do that successfully, if they're 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 4: able to hold their word, then we can reduce the 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 4: footprint by a lot more than the seven to eight 29 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 4: hundred that he's going to release from there to go 30 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 4: back to their home duty location. So that's a big move. 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: That's really great. It doesn't mean that we are going 32 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 4: to stop doing what we're doing. We're going to continue 33 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 4: target enforcement. There are millions of illegal aliens in this 34 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 4: country that shouldn't be here, many with criminal records including murderer, rape, robbery, 35 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 4: everything that you can think of. We've got them here 36 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 4: in this country because they were let in under the 37 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: Biden administration. So we're going to continue going after them. 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: So Paul, Okay, that's what's happening in Minnesota, and I 39 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: think you can extrapolate that what's going on there and 40 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: what's happening on in the rest of the country. Maybe 41 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: here in Indiana Indianapolis specifically, we just had one of 42 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: our politicians, our prosecutor who's running for reelection, Ryan Meher, 43 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: is saying that he's going to left this radical activist 44 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: prosecutor by the way, saying he's if ice operates here 45 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: in a way that he doesn't like, he'll put them 46 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: behind bars. What kind of media in terms of rhetoric, 47 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: what are you hearing from the media and politicians in 48 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: the rest of the country. 49 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that dangerous rhetoric that causes the increase in 50 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 4: violence and against our agents and officers. Look, we've got 51 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 4: agents and officers throughout the country. We've always had agents 52 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 4: officers throughout the country. Under the Biden administration, they were 53 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 4: employing the same tactics that they're employing today. President Trump, however, 54 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 4: has allowed us to do the job to enforce the law. 55 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 4: And that's different than what Biden did. It's different than 56 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 4: what Obama did. But they're in the same cities, they're 57 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 4: in the same locations that they've always been. So the 58 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: fact that they're complaining about it, nobody likes, you know, 59 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: the protests and the rioters, but that's out of our control. 60 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 4: They're coming out, they're they're they're they're tailing our officers. 61 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 4: They're going after and they're agitating them. They're interfering and 62 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 4: impeding and that's nobody wants to see that, especially our guys, 63 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: because again, while people think that our guys have been 64 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 4: extremely aggressive, I can tell you they have utilized a 65 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 4: lot of restraint in the. 66 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: Face of adversity. You know, they're they're they're. 67 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: Taking into They're taking into custody the people that they 68 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 4: need to take into custody that are interfering and impeding. 69 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, that dangerous rhetoric 70 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 4: from politicians, from those people that are getting in front 71 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 4: of a camera and saying that ICE is doing things illegally. 72 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 4: We're rounding up US citizens, we're deporting US citizens. That's unnecessary, 73 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: it's not true. It's completely fake news, but it endangers 74 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 4: our agents and officers because there are people out there 75 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 4: that are suckers enough to believe that that's really what's 76 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 4: going on. 77 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: We're speaking with Paul Perez, president of the National Border 78 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: Patrol Council, joining us here on the Hammer in Nigel Show. Paul, 79 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: what's happening in Minneapolis is this because they are a 80 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: sanctuary city, and for the last decade, maybe longer than that, 81 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: this is kind of what they've been trained to do. 82 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: Because there are other places where these types of border 83 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: patrol and immigration raids have taken place. You haven't seen 84 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: this level of debauchery Memphis, Memphis, Washington, d C. With 85 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: cutting federal funding, and I know that's on the table 86 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: by the Trump administration. Cutting federal funding to these sanctuary 87 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: cities kind of helped break the cycle of this anti 88 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: law enforcement movement that we see. 89 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's absolutely the case, and that would actually take 90 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 4: care of the problem a lot of these problems. 91 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: If you cut federal funding. 92 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 4: There should be no sanctuary for any criminal, but there 93 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 4: should definitely not be a sanctuary for illegal alien criminals, 94 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 4: illegal aliens that should not be in this country that 95 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 4: have no legal right to be here. So anytime there's 96 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 4: somebody protecting criminals, absolutely the federal government should. 97 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: Not fund that. 98 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: And by pulling funding, we will send the message to 99 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 4: the constituents that your elected leaders care more about protecting 100 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 4: people that should not be in this country than they 101 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 4: do about taking care of their own constituents. 102 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that's very important for them to do. 103 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: Paul, last thing here before we let you go. How 104 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: big of an issue do you think this is going 105 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: to be for the midterms. It feels like the Democrats 106 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: are going to try to run on ice as bad 107 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: and they're going to come into your school and drag 108 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: a five year old out in the snow with a 109 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 2: pillow over his head. But yet the Republicans are saying, 110 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: you want law and or this is what you voted for. 111 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: We're doing the job. How do you see this playing 112 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: out in the midterms. 113 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 4: I think it's going to be huge and exactly what 114 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 4: you just said there, that's what Americans voted for. Look 115 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 4: a lot of these people, the videos, all these people 116 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 4: that they're out there. 117 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: I don't know why they're not at work. 118 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: It seems like the Republicans are at work when these 119 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: guys are out there writing. 120 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 3: And in school Paul in school. 121 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of But coming election time, I think 122 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 4: the Republicans understand what's at stake. 123 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 3: We cannot have. 124 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 4: A majority of Democrats in the House or Senate, and 125 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 4: so I think it's going to be playing a big role. 126 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 4: But I think at the end of the day, Americans 127 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 4: know what they want and they know what they're seeing 128 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 4: right now is not what they want. They want to 129 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 4: make sure that we continue making America safe and get 130 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 4: these agitators out of the streets. Get these people to 131 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 4: stop protesting and let us enforce the law. 132 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: Paul Perez, President of the National Border Patrol Council, Paul, 133 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: thank you so much much for taking the time. I 134 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: know you're a busy dude. There's a lot going on, 135 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 2: but stay safe. Tell your officers to stay safe and 136 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 2: we appreciate you. 137 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: We'll do thank you for the support. 138 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.