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Speaker 2: Is that why?

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Speaker 1: And this data, this is actually interesting. WIBC has the

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's just Indiana. I think if you

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Speaker 1: So I'm taking the you know, the mega states out.

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Speaker 1: But if you take a state with a single population,

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Speaker 1: But everything has from a from a economic development standpoint,

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Speaker 1: population of Indiana is not necessarily increasing, the disbursement of

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Speaker 2: So there was a six percent decrease from June of

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Speaker 1: So what we're talking about here are new or when

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Speaker 2: It's I am chilling to fill the ground up. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And you know one of the things, let's go back

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Speaker 1: part of that is. In these communities, not just the

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Speaker 1: I would cut off the growth altogether. I mean, somebody

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Speaker 1: course not. It's anything in government. There's always a lag.

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Speaker 1: The ramifications of what you do. And in the case

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Speaker 1: Then the reality, and I this is going to sound

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Speaker 2: So the city of Indianapolis is shutting down a homeless

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Speaker 3: Now, I've reached out to property owners here in Indianapolis

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Speaker 4: Because we have a voice. Nobody wants to believe that

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Because that's always the narrative of is it

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Speaker 2: As we mentioned, homelessness in Indianapolis increased seven percent this

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Speaker 1: And it shouldn't happen when there is And again I

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Speaker 2: It's Kendilly Casey, It's ninety three WYBC. There was a

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Speaker 1: I don't know whether this is a big deal or

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Speaker 2: That's what this is exactly. So you had a million

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Speaker 1: That's amazing.

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Speaker 2: However, they suffered a data breach and thirteen thousand images,

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Speaker 2: Now, some of the photos that were leaked, nearly sixty

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Speaker 1: This thing like this, you know, this nineteen eighties way

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just I I fear like for po

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Speaker 1: We had this before the conversation that Kevin, people like

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Speaker 1: That's right, So I'm sure Ryg knows this by now.

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Speaker 1: But this guy, he was the CEO of this company,

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Speaker 2: An affair completely. Now there's the reports that the guy

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Speaker 1: You don't get a ticket anymore, like a physical ticket.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you're being a big sneak, which, okay,

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Speaker 2: Okay, and I know we have to get to news,

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Speaker 5: Thank you for your interest in Astronomer. Hi, I'm Gwyneth Paltrow.

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Speaker 5: I've been hired on a very temporary basis to speak

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Speaker 5: Astronomer has gotten a lot of questions over the last

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Speaker 2: Okay, so she goes on to explain what the company

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Speaker 1: But okay, so she she is, she's an actress, right, correct?

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Speaker 2: I believe?

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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you? And so if I'm an investor in

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Speaker 2: Me what more attention extending the life of the But.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I want I don't want the attention.

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Speaker 1: they do data centers or whatever AI? Right, like, don't

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Speaker 1: will go with those guys? Is that how that works?

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Speaker 2: I think they're just trying to be a little playful.

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Speaker 2: They're getting all of this attention, people asking what is

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Speaker 1: Oh, I see, and now let's get.

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Speaker 2: The ex wife of the lead singer of the band.

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Speaker 1: I got you. So they want to keep it going

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Speaker 1: was a sneaky sneak and they got to get one fish. Basically,

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Speaker 1: it was like phishing. We may lose a lot of babyfish,

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Speaker 1: but if we get one, you know, one big fish

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Speaker 1: out of this, it'll pay for itself.

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Speaker 2: We're good.

442
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Speaker 1: I got you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you went there for your honeymoon. But there's

444
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Speaker 2: a lot of reports coming out of Las Vegas they

445
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Speaker 2: are losing visitors. And we'll discuss that and why coming

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Speaker 2: up from ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: What you decide and what are we doing.

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Speaker 2: I love how you have Ethan doing your research for you.

449
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Speaker 1: So if you don't know, if you just against Kennlly

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Speaker 1: Casey Show and Rob that's Casey. We have young mister

451
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Speaker 1: Ethan with us today. Not Hatch, No, not Ethan Atcher Ethan.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I know his family very well. He's a aspiring television

454
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Speaker 1: slash radio student here in central Indiana. And I said

455
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Speaker 1: to his folks, I said, well, let's bring him in

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Speaker 1: and he can see what a dreary uh Dickens esque

457
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Speaker 1: existence that waits in front of him if he chooses

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Speaker 1: a career, and hopefully he'll choose something fun that'll pay

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Speaker 1: a lot of money, like engineering or medicine or do

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Speaker 1: you feel like.

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Speaker 2: You've imparted any sort of wisdom?

462
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Speaker 1: I think so, because he just started doing research for us. Yeah,

463
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Speaker 1: do you grab that grab that microphone. This will give

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Speaker 1: you a thrill. You'll never forget. You found the ticket

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Speaker 1: what they say on the tickets? Have you missed last segment?

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Speaker 1: The cold Play or the Astronomer guy. Yeah, the sneak

467
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Speaker 1: ceo correct is suing or is going to sue or

468
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Speaker 1: he is suing.

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Speaker 2: Allegedly talking about suing them? Could player emotional distress and

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Speaker 2: invasion of privacy.

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Speaker 1: Because the Coldplay guy jokingly said, hey, they're having an

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Speaker 1: affair or something, which it appears they were. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what you'd sue him for, And I said, there

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Speaker 1: has to be. I remember as a kid when he

475
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Speaker 1: used to get a physical ticket you go to concert.

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Speaker 1: There was some highly high expensive attorney language that said

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Speaker 1: you sign over your rights the moment you walk in here.

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Speaker 1: You have no right to anything, and we'll film you

479
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Speaker 1: or whoever we want to do with it. If you

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Speaker 1: don't like it, don't come to the concert. And Ethan,

481
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Speaker 1: doing his job, found what'd you find? You found the

482
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Speaker 1: language on the ticket?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And do you want to read?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Read?

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Speaker 1: We read what it says, all right.

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Speaker 6: So it says when you visit our location or attend

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Speaker 6: or participate in our event at our location, we may

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Speaker 6: capture your image, voice, or likeness, including the use of

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Speaker 6: CCTV cameras, or when we film or photograph you in

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Speaker 6: a public location.

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Speaker 1: Okay. If I'm an attorney, I'm just like, we rest

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Speaker 1: your honors now, counter suit.

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Speaker 2: You bought the tickets, you agreed to the terms.

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Speaker 1: He also sent me a thing. But he's doing all

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Speaker 1: sorts of research here that quote, where did you get

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Speaker 1: this from? JGPT? But they got it from AP news. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so ap News said, because we did the story about

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Speaker 1: this t app that had all these women's Nataly's stolen

501
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 1: that quote, it's highly likely that some users shared spicy,

502
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Speaker 1: risque or intimate content, especially in BMS. So that's doing

503
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Speaker 1: all your work for you. Now, he is your new AI.

504
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Speaker 2: That's Hei.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Lookout man. We got some young buck who's coming.

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Speaker 1: Out sixteen and he's just blowing right passage on his

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Speaker 1: way and a.

509
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Speaker 2: Very nice voice, by the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very good. It sounds very pleasing to be a thriller.

511
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Speaker 1: You'll never forget. I was on with Kennel and Kazy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you went there for your honeymoon. But Las

513
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Speaker 2: Vegas tourism now down significantly, oh declients and hotel occupancy,

514
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Speaker 2: visitor numbers and overall spending. Hotel occupancy fell to sixty

515
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Speaker 2: six point seven.

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Speaker 1: Percent, so of the total rooms available, basically only two

517
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Speaker 1: thirds of them.

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Speaker 2: Correct our book. That's not good, No, it's not.

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Speaker 1: Is there a reason for this?

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Speaker 2: Well, because things are expensive right now, Rob, no kidding.

521
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Speaker 2: You got a bunch of money, you're going to go

522
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Speaker 2: on vacation, You're going to go put it into a

523
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Speaker 2: slot machine.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you might probably not.

525
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you've got international travel has declined as well,

526
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Speaker 2: it's down thirteen percent, and domestic arrivals dropping six and

527
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Speaker 2: a half percent. Airport traffic fell as well. Well.

528
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Speaker 1: It's an interesting that real quick, I mean to catch up.

529
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Speaker 1: It isn't it interesting? Because we went in the post

530
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Speaker 1: COVID boom because everybody had been locked out of Vegas

531
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Speaker 1: for basically a year and a half and there was

532
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Speaker 1: just floods of people because they weren't able to go.

533
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Speaker 1: And now that inflation is set in and people have

534
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Speaker 1: been able to go back and do the thing, it's

535
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Speaker 1: almost like whatever g case. It's almost like if you

536
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Speaker 1: restrict people from being able to do something.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, they have to do it right

538
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Speaker 2: now that they really.

539
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Speaker 1: Need to or want to do it. But once they

540
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Speaker 1: can do it, then it's like, Eh, that's not that

541
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Speaker 1: big a deal. That's a But you've seen this in

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Speaker 1: major metropolitan cities across the country where take down Town

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis for example, when it's all fun and games, some

544
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Speaker 1: people enough to come back to work, right, Oh you

545
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Speaker 1: work from home and blah blah blah, Oh yeah, look

546
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Speaker 1: at what a great boss we have cities. Major metro

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Speaker 1: Politan cities function based on foot traffic. They the space exists,

548
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Speaker 1: the buildings were built based on foot traffic, and they

549
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Speaker 1: are rented according to foot traffic. So if you're a

550
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Speaker 1: restaurant owner and you're renting a space based on I'm

551
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Speaker 1: just pulling out numbers here that in any given day,

552
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Speaker 1: sixty thousand people will walk past this establishment, are thirty

553
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Speaker 1: thousand or whatever, and now you've got a third of

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Speaker 1: that or in this case in Vegas, two thirds. You

555
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Speaker 1: have to have people there because that's the lifeblood of

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Speaker 1: the industry, is the renting of the rooms.

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Speaker 2: Okay, another thing that is contributing to the fact that

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Speaker 2: people aren't choosing Las Vegas is you've got all of

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Speaker 2: these not only the high costs, but the hidden fees.

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Speaker 2: Do you recall dealing with that hidden resort fees?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why every way to go though, right, that's

563
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Speaker 1: everywhere you go.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you're just gonna stay at a Hampton In

565
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Speaker 2: in you know, Alabama, on the ocean, you're not paying

566
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Speaker 2: a resort fee, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: But also you're not getting a Hampton in on the ocean.

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Speaker 1: Almost all that ocean line property. If you look at

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Speaker 1: it in a in an ocean city of any sort

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Speaker 1: and it's a named property, there's a good chans not always,

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Speaker 1: but there's a good chance it's off the actual water itself.

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Speaker 1: It's always some you know, corporate delio. It seems like

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Speaker 1: where that You're like, it's the Hilton whatever, and it's

574
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Speaker 1: you know, it's a mile in from the property it

575
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Speaker 1: So I'm not saying that's always the case, but uh,

576
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Speaker 1: now I lost my train of thought. It's never happened.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. You broke the file cabinet casey, no, no, no,

578
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Speaker 1: I got give me a second or to get it back,

579
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Speaker 1: to get it back, get it back together. The resort

580
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Speaker 1: fees usually when you book it online, you pay it

581
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Speaker 1: then so you know it. You don't get hit with

582
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Speaker 1: it afterwards, right.

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Speaker 2: Right, But they're still saying you're getting nickel and dimed

584
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Speaker 2: forever thing, and it's leading to this negative perception of value.

585
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Speaker 2: You've got uncertainty in the economy, inflation, and just all

586
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Speaker 2: sorts of tensions. You know, because Vegas is a place

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Speaker 2: for historically international travel, people don't want to deal with

588
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Speaker 2: all of this, so they're choosing not to go there.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of these resorts they're pricing out the

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Speaker 2: middle group. It's either you can afford it, and it

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter if you're going to drop ten grand on

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Speaker 2: one roulette spin or not. But if you're in the

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Speaker 2: middle to lower side of things, you can't afford to

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Speaker 2: go anymore.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're seeing that with dining right Look at the

596
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Speaker 1: mid tier restaurants that have closed. Hey, your fast foods

597
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: are still doing all right. The tippy top people are

598
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Speaker 1: still doing all right. But it's the mid tier restaurants,

599
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: the O Charlie type people that have really been struggling

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Speaker 1: because they're caught in this inflation vortex. You, I'm guaranteeing

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Speaker 1: you've been to Vegas at some point.

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Speaker 6: I have.

603
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: I haven't been in quite a while.

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Speaker 1: How much did you lose? What'd you come back? How

605
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Speaker 1: much lighter did you come back than what you win?

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Speaker 2: Rob, don't be silly. I always walk away a winter.

607
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Speaker 1: What are we doing next? What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So there's this gen Z kid. His mom gave

609
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Speaker 2: him something and he's very confused by it. Well something,

610
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Speaker 2: it's something that you and I would know how to use,

611
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: maybe not the younger generation. Okay, all right, it's kind

612
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Speaker 2: of a casey. It's ninety three w ib C.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you have discovered something that young people now

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Speaker 1: once was a staple of American existence, that young people

615
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Speaker 1: have no idea what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Well, there's many things, right. You think about all of

617
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Speaker 2: the technology and devices that have come and gone, like

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Speaker 2: the facts machine, dial up, internet, landlines, pagers, TVs with

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Speaker 2: antennas on them, TVs with dials on them. Did you

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Speaker 2: have to deal with that? Did you ever get to

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Speaker 2: get up and actually dial the television?

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Speaker 1: I had a dial TV in my room, and so

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Speaker 1: I had a when I was a kid, I had

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Speaker 1: a dial TV that my grandma gave me and I

625
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Speaker 1: had the antenna on it. The problem I had with

626
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Speaker 1: the dial TV so my Nintendo was hooked up to it.

627
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Speaker 1: And I've told this story before. My mother would ground me,

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Speaker 1: would send me to my room, and she denies she

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Speaker 1: did this now and I don't know if she's just

630
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Speaker 1: being nice and as she's getting older, but she would

631
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Speaker 1: always this is the way I do. If I did

632
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Speaker 1: some of those misbehaved, my mother would send me in

633
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Speaker 1: my room and she would say the father things. When

634
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Speaker 1: your father gets home, you're in big trouble how my

635
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: mom would get too busy and would forget I had

636
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Speaker 1: that Nintendo up there. But in order to get the

637
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Speaker 1: t you had to get the TV to channel three,

638
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Speaker 1: So I would have to turn the television to make

639
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: sure she was not within earshot because it would make

640
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: that loud sound when you turn the turn the knob.

641
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: So I had to be able to get like if

642
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: I had it on WTHR, which was thirteen on the antenna,

643
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: you had to be able to get the thing over

644
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: to three, which would have to be a very strategic

645
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: maneuvering of the dials.

646
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Speaker 2: Like coughing every time you would turn it.

647
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Speaker 1: Well, I had two. I grew up at a two

648
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Speaker 1: story house, so as long as she was downstairs, I

649
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: was relatively certain if she was doing something, I'd be

650
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: able to do that. But that is my Yes, I

651
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: had a knob or whatever television with antenna when I

652
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: was a kid in my room.

653
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: Okay, some other things that are no longer as prevalent, Well,

654
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: game boy carts is just for one. Phone books, pay phones,

655
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: check books. You probably still have a check book, Oh

656
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: yeah you do. And this item from this boy back

657
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: with this series of stuff I didn't grow up with.

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00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 6: But my mom did a map.

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00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: She sent me a map of Kansas. I've never used

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00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: a map in my life. Oh my gosh, was this

661
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: your guys like GPS?

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00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: Holy cow?

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00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: How do you even read this thing? Easy to read?

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00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: Easy to read by ass How do you drive and

665
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: know where you're going?

666
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: Look at that and tell me this is not a

667
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: different language.

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00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: My SERI says turn left in two miles, and I still.

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00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: Miss the turn. I don't even know how I would?

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00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 6: I would?

671
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: And then what do you do?

672
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: Hold you?

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00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: Okay, put it in the club department.

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00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: What if you're traveling through different states?

675
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: You need more of these? Hold on? Maybe Nope, still

676
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: can't read it. I don't even know what it's called.

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00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: Okay, Maybe I don't want.

678
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: To grow up in the eighties or nineties. If anyone

679
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: wants a roadway dictionary, you let me know.

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00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 6: I don't need it anymore.

681
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,239
Speaker 1: So what was the big one?

682
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: Was it?

683
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: Rand McNally. That was like a big atlas that everyone had.

684
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: When I first met my wife and went over to

685
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 1: her house, and she lived with her grandparents and her

686
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: grandfather who was an over the road trucker for forty years,

687
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: we were talking about something and he goes, hang on

688
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 1: a second, I'll show you, and he had one right

689
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: on Ran McNally, right on his person. He opens it

690
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: up and he starts pointing the law, you know, the

691
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: map or whatever. And it was like, boy, you want

692
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: to talk about something from a bygone era. This guy

693
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: still lives it. I guarantee he's never seen a GPS,

694
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: and I guarantee he could get you anywhere you want

695
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: to go in this country better than that phone could. Right.

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00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I loved reading the map and just you know,

697
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: staring at it for hours yea, and just you know,

698
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: discovering new places. You can't do that as easily on

699
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: your phone.

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00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: Well, there really was a dark era too, and Indy

701
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: reporter just said this in the YouTube Chet He's absolutely right.

702
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: It was sort of the dark era between when the

703
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: map kind of went out of style and the phone

704
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: became a thing, which was you had to print the

705
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: directions on map Quest. Yes, the map Quest printed direction

706
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: and that while on pay in theory should have been

707
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: better because it would tell you into turn if you

708
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: missed a turn or there was something shut down. I

709
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: mean obviously now you know your your your phone. There

710
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: was no rerouting on the map quest and if you

711
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: missed something or something was shut down, and then you

712
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: were in big trouble because now what are you going

713
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: to do? And that was really the darkest of times

714
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: for traveling because we didn't you know, people would stop

715
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: kind of carrying maps or whatever, but there was no

716
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: but the of course, you almost always had to stop

717
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: at a gas station or ask somebody, how do I

718
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm trying to do. How do I do this?

719
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: Okay? So that brings up the question. Then you might

720
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: recall that the Secretary of State of Indiana, Diego Morales,

721
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 2: printed out.

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00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, get can we queue up the Diego theme music? Kevin?

723
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 2: Hey?

724
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should have alerted Kevin, can we que up

725
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: the here we go? Ready? Since Diego keep it going?

726
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: It's fine. Diego's a big chicken and he's a real

727
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: tough guy in government meetings talking about how we're fake

728
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 1: news and don't listen to us and don't tell.

729
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 2: My story and blah blah blah.

730
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: So he said, we'd love for you to come in

731
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: and he said, no, I'm not doing that. He declined

732
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: that one story.

733
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 2: So what a total lack of transparency there, right.

734
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what what did you? What's he wasting money on?

735
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 2: Well, he wasted This is past tense already. He spent

736
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: uh nearly fifteen thousand dollars on maps with his name

737
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: on it. And who is using those?

738
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: My wife's good fucker easing it. That's it. Oh my gosh,

739
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: this guy. What an insufferable, rotten, just dirt ball.

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00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 2: I thought it'd just bring the show full circle for you.

741
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: It's how we began the show and it's how we're

742
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:00,479
Speaker 2: ending the show.

743
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: Oh that's very well done by you, Casey.

744
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: But we don't. We won't have the opportunity now to

745
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: ask him any questions about those maps. And because he's

746
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: how successful it was for him, Kevin.

747
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: Let's go out with the new Diego Morales theme song

748
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: as we wind up our program today, and indeed is

749
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: an applicable time for us to say goodbye.

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00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: Ah yes, thank you, Rob, thank you, Kevin, Hey, thanks

751
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 2: Ethan for coming by, Thank you for listening.

752
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: Chicken like Diego, It's Kenne and Casey.

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00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: I'm ninety three w IBC