1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: I said this on Twitter over the weekend. By the way, 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: it's Kenel and Casey Show. I'm Rob, that's Casey. This 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: redistricting thing is playing out in real time what we 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: have been telling you on this program. 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: I have been saying for nine years on. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: This radio station about who these people, the elected people, 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: not just the elected people, but the people. 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: Who live in the political orbit. Who they are. 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: They are proving this in real time because all of 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: these people are disgusting. They don't care about you at all. 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: This isn't about bettering anybody's lives. It's about bettering themselves. 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 1: And now this thing with Mike Bohatchick is playing out, 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: and I'm just sitting here going the prosecution rests. 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: You're honor where you been. 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: What you're saying is hello, We've been talking about this 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 3: since June. 17 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 4: Second. 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. 19 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: By the way, it's Kenel and Casey Show. I'm Rob. 20 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: That's Casey. So Mike Bohatchik is a Republican. By the way, 21 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: are they meeting? Is it started? This House supposed to 22 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: be starting today some sort of get together about redistricting. 23 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: They're very excited about altering the maps that no one 24 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: has seen. There's been no testimony given, there's been no 25 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: community statements, nothing. They're getting ready to meet at some 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: point today to begin that process. And they're related. Like 27 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: you see, these lawmakers, many of them are very very 28 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: excited about this now. They're not giving a damn about 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: your property taxes being out of control. They're not talking 30 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: about getting utility bills, any affordability on utility bills. They're 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: not talking about curbing one of the nation's highest gas taxes. 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: They're not talking about opening up the books and having 33 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: a robust debate and discussion about the Indian Economic Development 34 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: Corporation that the independent audit showed hundreds of millions of 35 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: dollars of conflicts of interest and I'll just say it 36 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: corruption that's been going on. They're not talking about any 37 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: of that. You're the Republican members of the Indiana House. 38 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: They're not doing a damn thing or posing doing a 39 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: damn thing about any of that. But people like Andrew Ireland, 40 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: State rep from Indianapolis are are just elated over the 41 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: fact that they can potentially rig the maps to put 42 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: two more Republicans in the House to not help you 43 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: at all. That's what these people are and that's what 44 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: this is all about. But over the weekend, Mike Bohatchik, 45 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: state senator from north would you say northwestern Indiana? I 46 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: guess he's a region guy, a Republican, announced that he 47 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: is going to vote against redistricting. And as soon as 48 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: he made that announcement, now he pinned it. Well, he 49 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: didn't pin it on. He did pin it on, and 50 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: then he got a bunch of crap for it. And 51 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: he goes, well, it's not the it's not the reason. 52 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: It's just an another reason I'm doing this. Trump's rambling incoherent, 53 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: ridiculous statement over the weekend, the Thanksgiving message. 54 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 4: The Thanksgiving post. Yeah, that was so long. 55 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: It started out in very happy Thanksgiving salutation to all 56 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: of our great American citizens and patriots who have been 57 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: so nice in allowing our country to be a divided, disruptive, 58 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: carved up, murdered, beating, mugged and laughed at. 59 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 4: And then he goes on and says a whole bunch 60 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 4: of other stuff and in. 61 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 2: The message, and look, I don't use this word. 62 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm not some person who starts pointing at people when 63 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: they do and says you're the worst of humanity. I 64 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: just choose not to use it. It doesn't make me 65 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: better than anybody. I will use it here for the 66 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: purpose of this discussion because it's important to what we're 67 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: talking about. Again, I'm not trying to be some holy 68 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: roller saying if somebody uses this word, they're a bad person. 69 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: Whatever. 70 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: But he called Tim Walls, the governor of Minnesota who 71 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: was the vice presidential nominee for Kamala Harris. 72 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: He called him retarded. 73 00:03:52,480 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, And Mike Bohachik, state senator from northwestern Indiana, as 74 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: a I believe it's a daughter who has down syndrome. 75 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: And he came out in a very forceful. 76 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: Statement and basically said, I'm voting against redistricting because I've 77 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: had enough of Trump's bs and I don't appreciate him 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: using that word. And if he wants to win that 79 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: seat the first Congressional District, which is the Chicago Land Region, 80 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: one of the areas they're looking at altering the maps 81 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: on to try to put a Republican in that seat, 82 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: he can win at the old fashioned way. 83 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: I'm not going to help him do it. 84 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, he said, many of you, this is Michael Bohachik. 85 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: He said, many of you have asked my position on redistricting. 86 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 3: I've been an apologetic advocate for people with intellectual disabilities 87 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 3: since the birth of my second daughter. Those of you 88 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 3: that don't know me or my family might not know 89 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 3: that my daughter has Down syndrome. This is not the 90 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: first time our president he's used these insulting and derogatory references, 91 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 3: and his choices of words have consequences. 92 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 4: I'll be voting no on redistricting, and this is like, 93 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 4: we're gonna. 94 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: Need at least two segments to do this because there's 95 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: just so much going on right now and it's about 96 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: so much more than redistricting. Like I was laughing last 97 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: night when you said the template is done, and I said, 98 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: what does it just say? Rob craps On? Everyone like? 99 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 2: Is that the like? 100 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: Because there's like, there's just there's so much going on 101 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: with this redistricting right now, and it's everything they have 102 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: been telling you on this radio station for nine years, 103 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: the Casey and I have been talking about for almost 104 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: Can you believe we've almost worked together for four years. 105 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: You've made it longer than anyone. Casulations we had the 106 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 1: over under on three months? 107 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you I blew past that, didn't I. 108 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: But but there's just so much with this that it 109 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: actually does impact you far greater than redistricting, because these people, 110 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: both the politicians and the people in the political world, 111 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: are exposing themselves. They're showing you who they are, and 112 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: it's everything we've been saying. 113 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: You know, when you say that people in the political world, 114 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: are you talking about the influencers online or the con. 115 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 2: Type, all of that, all of them. 116 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: So I mean like that, we're gonna spend a lot 117 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: of time on this today because of all the different 118 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: things that it touches, and it all comes back to 119 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: if you will open your eyes on this, why you 120 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: keep getting screwed on property taxes, on utility meals, on 121 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: gas taxes, why we're giving hundreds of millions of dollars 122 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: to a just horribly corrupt, rotten, conflict of interest ridden 123 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: organization like the IEDC. 124 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: All of these things that you tune into. 125 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: Us for every day, it's playing out right in front 126 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: of you with this redistricting. And then hopefully you can 127 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: take these just blatantly obvious examples and take them with 128 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: you in the future so that you'll be aware of 129 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: what's going on, so you'll say remember when we say remember, 130 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: when you'll go, oh, yeah, that is happening because you're 131 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: getting screwed in all these other areas because of the 132 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: sort of stuff that's going on right now. So we're 133 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: gonna spend a couple segments on this because there's just 134 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: too much to get to in one segment. But as 135 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: soon as Mike Bohatchick makes the statement. 136 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 4: Say he's no on redistricting. 137 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, the influencer people who don't 138 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: live in our state we're talking about, Like that, is 139 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: it Kurt Schlichter guy from California or the DC Dreno 140 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: dude in Florida. I don't know if DC Drana was 141 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: involved in this, but I'm saying, like, there's all these 142 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: people who don't live in Indiana who have made it 143 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: their life's mission to get these two Republicans seed, these 144 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: two congressional seeds flip to Republican and they have no 145 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: idea about our state. They don't live in our state, 146 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: they don't spend time in our state for the most part, 147 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: like but they're obsessed now with these two congressional seeds 148 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: and anybody who at all, for whatever the reason might be. 149 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: Some of them good, some of them not so good. 150 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: But whatever the reason is they have, now they start 151 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: making these people public enemy number one and they try 152 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: to seek and kill and destroy them. And of course, 153 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: Mike Bohachik, as anybody who listen to this program for 154 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: any length of time knows, because we broke the story, 155 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: we were screaming about it six months ago, got an 156 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: OWI in January of last year in which he refused 157 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: a breathalyzer, but his blood test revealed he was almost 158 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: three and a half times the legal limit. So all 159 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Mike Bohatchik, who's had this thing out 160 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: here forever, and by the way, not only did he 161 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: the big issues, not only did he get the OWI, 162 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: but they were able to day I'm saying they, the 163 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: Republican Party, the senators, the leaders in the government, were 164 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: able to cover it up for about four and a 165 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: half months because Bohatchick, like other lawmakers, can hide behind 166 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: legislative immunity where if they get arrested during the session, 167 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: there's no record of it, they get to go free. 168 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: He had somebody come get him. What was at point 169 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: two eight was his blood draw three and a half 170 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: times the legal limit, and he was able to walk 171 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: out the door, go home, keep driving, which for any 172 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: normal person, if you refuse the breathalyzer, automatic license suspension. 173 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: He was able to keep driving, no accountability, and then 174 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: he ends up with a sweetheart plea deal, but he 175 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: was able to avoid the scrutiny, the mugshot, the public shaming, 176 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: all of this for basically four and a half five months, 177 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: and then once we got the story and broke the story, 178 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: nobody other than basically us, The Capitol Chronicle, Indie Star, 179 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: a couple other local news outlets, but it was basically 180 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: nobody wanted to. 181 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: Talk about it. 182 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody cared. 183 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: No Republicans. We were screaming, somebody hold this guy accountable, 184 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: Somebody do something about this. 185 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: This is rotten, this is horrible. This guy's able to 186 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: just waltz free. 187 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 4: Uh huh. 188 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: Well that's because he was inside the tent right at 189 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 3: that point. He was still being protected. 190 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: And now what not because of what he did, but 191 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: because because he. 192 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 3: Said no something. Donald Trump won and so he said nope, 193 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: I'm not doing that. Now everybody's looking into that. OWI. 194 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's all these videos, all these people who aren't 195 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: from Indiana, even some people who are from Indiana. Some 196 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: of these political consultant peoples. One of the people that 197 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: I had a nice little back and forth with over 198 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: the weekend, which you may have seen, you know, posting 199 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: all this stuff. And I'm just going you didn't give 200 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: a damn about this when we were begging somebody to 201 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: do something about it. You didn't step up and help us. 202 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: You didn't talk about caring about how bad it was 203 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: that you have this senator with such horrible judgment making 204 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: decisions for the people of Indiana. You weren't calling for 205 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: his resignation then, but you'll do it now when there's 206 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: something you want to take place, right which should show 207 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: everybody how little these people actually care about you and 208 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: your life and bettering your existence. 209 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: This is all about them. 210 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: For the influencer people, it's about curring favor with Trump. 211 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: For the political people, We're going to talk about that 212 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: in a little bit, Casey, because everybody has something to 213 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: gain out of this, and what they have to gain 214 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: doesn't do anything for you. 215 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 2: See, I told. 216 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: You there's no way we're gonna get to this in 217 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: one segment because there's so much to talk about. 218 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 4: All Right, We've got more coming up. It is Kennelly 219 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: Casey on ninety three WIBC. 220 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: You are being used. And if you're fine with being used, 221 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: then carry on. But if you'd like to actually know 222 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: how you're being used and how none of this that's 223 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: happening at the state House right now is about you 224 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: at all, then well you've come to the right place. 225 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: It is the Kennel and Casey Show. I'm Rob's that's Casey. 226 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: And of course our state lawmakers are feverishly meeting in 227 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: the House of Representatives this week. And not to fix 228 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: your out of control property taxes, not to get your 229 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: utility bill skyrocketing utility rates under control, not to say. 230 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 2: Hey, wow, you know gases. 231 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: Somebody sent me a photo of gas in Ohio the 232 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: other day, Casey. This is a very high profile politician. 233 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: I will not name the person because he would be 234 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: totally ostracized. 235 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: Two five, Oh wow, two five in Ohio? 236 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 4: Is that less? 237 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: That is less than we're currently paying. By the way, 238 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: I always love the people like, oh, you're ripping on Trump, 239 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: look at the gas prices. Yeah, gas prices are down 240 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: because the economy is constricting. But hey, that's what you're 241 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: gonna lean on. 242 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: That's fine. 243 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: But one of the things that is I was having 244 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: a conversation with a member of the the media the 245 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: other day or the weekend, and we were we were 246 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: kicking this back and forth, and the person said, you know, 247 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: one of the things that nobody's talking about other than you, 248 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: about these outside people that are I mean, if you 249 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: look on Twitter, who's leading the charge on this redistricting 250 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: life whorry? 251 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 4: If you look and see who Rob Kendall's having an argument, 252 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 4: you'll know. 253 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: A lot of them are either out people from outside 254 00:12:54,920 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: of our state, or they're the politically connected I'm about 255 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: like the consultants to people who run the campaigns, like 256 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: these are the people leading the charge. And this person said, 257 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's kind of obvious why the out 258 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: of state people are doing this because they want to 259 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: curry favor with Trump. These high profile internet influencers whatever. 260 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: They know, Trump sees everything, and they're sucking up for 261 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: the next thing, the next gimme the next trip to 262 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: the White House, the next whatever. And Trump has opened 263 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: this Pandora's box because he's let all these weirdo people 264 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: into his orbit. And these people don't care about Indiana 265 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: at all. They're just totally subservient to whatever Trump wants 266 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: and so they're going to bark, right. 267 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: But the media person told me this. They said, one of. 268 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: The things that nobody's talking about is why so many 269 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: quote unquote establishment people, the people who you attend to 270 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: think of are in the power structure. Right, They're not conservative, 271 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: they've not been pro Trump people, and in many case 272 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: some of them have. But in many cases that they're 273 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,359 Speaker 1: they're not what you think of. They're totally for this redistricting. 274 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: And the question is why. And this person said, one 275 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: of the things nobody's talking about is the amount of 276 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: money that is going to be made if they open 277 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: up these congressional districts, both the first, which is the 278 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: Chicago Land area, and if they got Marion County essentially 279 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: into three or four new districts, that it will be 280 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: made by all of these people flooding in to run 281 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: for those quote unquote open seats. 282 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 3: Well, you're talking about the back end of things, so 283 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: consultants and congressional campaigns, and think of all the media 284 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: buys that go along with it. 285 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely, you're talking millions, millions of dollars to be made. 286 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: And so I put that out on. 287 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: Well, they've said we're going to spend all sorts of 288 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 3: money to primary these people. 289 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: Well, and this is so this became the argument. 290 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: This is one of the arguments that Rod Bray, the 291 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: leader of the Senate in Indiana, who is against this, made, 292 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: and I've heard out others. 293 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: Man, it's absolutely right. 294 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: He said, if we just spent all this time and 295 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: effort and resources and money into the first Congression district, 296 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: the Chicago Land area. 297 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 4: Running an effective campaign right to. 298 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: Defeat Frank Mrvan the Democrat, we'd win. Why are we 299 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: Why are we fighting close? It was only five points 300 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: last time? 301 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: Right? 302 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: They can't they can't read no matter how they redistrict, 303 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: they can't redistrict to guarantee it red. 304 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: That's one of the holdups on this, at least on 305 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: the Senate side. 306 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: I think, but if you just put all these all 307 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: this money in, or the time or this effort, but 308 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: that doesn't carery fair with Trump. So the internet people 309 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: aren't interested in that because it's not actually about helping Indiana. 310 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: It's not about making Indiana more red. It's about being 311 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: totally subservient to Trump to try to get the next 312 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: click influence, like whatever. And the political people they're not 313 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: interested in that because there's gonna be one candidate come 314 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: out of that. They keep the maps the way they are. 315 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: If they cut these maps up, you're going to have 316 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: three or three, four, five new races that they can 317 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: make money off of. And a person I will get 318 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: I will not name this person, who I would say 319 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: is about us high on the food chain of the 320 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: political consultant class as you can possibly be in the state. Now, 321 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: that'll probably narrow it down to about six or seven 322 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: people if you know what's going on, but for most 323 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: people they won't know. And I'm not going to name 324 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: this person. It is off the record conversation. They messaged 325 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: me yesterday and they said, you are one hundred percent 326 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: right about that. They said, that is exactly what this 327 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: is about. 328 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 4: It's so serving on so many levels. 329 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and that's what I keep trying to hammer home 330 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: to people. Look, there are some well meaning people who 331 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: genuinely believe in the all Red all the time, and 332 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter to them the Republicans lie and don't 333 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: fall through in their promises and haven't gotten spending under 334 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: control again, haven't gotten affordability under control again. They just 335 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: believe in all read. There are some people who, in 336 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: their hearts genuinely are in it for the right reasons. 337 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: They're misguided, but they're they're altruistic and I don't just 338 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: speak those people are out there. But when you look 339 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: at some of these disingenuous politicians like Liz Brown, Senator 340 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: in Fort Wayne, who is a total establishment hack, who's 341 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: all in on this, this isn't about Trump. She doesn't 342 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: like Trump. 343 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 4: It's about staying in office. 344 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: She's got a primary challenge, absolutely, Casey. And if you 345 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: look at these these Internet people, it's about curring favor 346 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: with Trump. And if you look at the consultant people, 347 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: it's about making money. Everybody's using you. If you're going 348 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: down the road right now, these people are using you. 349 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: And then they villainize people like me and Casey, who 350 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: stand up and go now. 351 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: Wait a second, wait a second. 352 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: This we just drew these maps, right, We just set 353 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: out great they were, We just set out fair they were, 354 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: and then they turn you. Which I want to talk 355 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: about this a little bit later, how the vile things 356 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: they're starting to say about the people who are like, 357 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: I don't think redistrict thing is gonna work because I 358 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: want to get into that too, because there's just like 359 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: I said, there's so many like, how am I gonnaut? 360 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: How are we gonna put this show together today? 361 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: How are gonna was like a screw it, We'll just 362 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: start talking and see what happens. Because can we get 363 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: into that next about how we're just it's just the 364 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: worst of us is on display with this, like the 365 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: just the worst of humanity, the worst of who we are. 366 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: That looks oh, is that is. 367 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 4: This what you're talking about? I know this is what 368 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 4: you're talking about. 369 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Because there are a bunch of people 370 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: who are like, just there, Look, I'm an adult here right, Like, 371 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: I'm a big boy. Politics is blood sport. You don't 372 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: go to hurt my feelings. But they're saying horrific things 373 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: about people who aren't public figures, who do want the 374 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: best for their country, who have genuine, legitimate reasons to 375 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: not be for this redistricting, and we're just seeing the 376 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: worst of us come out right now, in real time, 377 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: on full display. 378 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 3: It's Kendlyn Casey, It's ninety three WYBC. 379 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: So this redistricting is bringing out the worst in people, 380 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: or I love let me rephrase that. 381 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: It's not bringing out the worst, it's. 382 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: Exposing the worst in people because I think what politics 383 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: does is it really reveals who you are as a 384 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: as a person, like part of what we do. Like 385 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: seven this conversation somebody over the weekend. Part of why 386 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: people hate us because at Robin Kendall on Twitter if 387 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: you'd like to see it, is I had some pretty 388 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: public spats with some very high profile political people over 389 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: the week. Well over the week, I was gone numerous 390 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: But part of why they hate us, the politicians and 391 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: the political class people is because one we have the platform. 392 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: They can't stand that we have the platform, and they 393 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: can't control us because we don't want anything. We don't 394 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: want to go to the parties, we don't want to 395 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: hang out with them. We're not running for anything, we're 396 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: not trying to curry any favor. We don't be speakers 397 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: at their events. So they hate us because their whole 398 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: life depends on leverage over people. 399 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 4: Looking for vulnerabilities. 400 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: Yes, that's what it's all about. I have told you 401 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: this for years on this program. That's what politics is. 402 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: Politics is about leverage over people. It's one of the 403 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: reasons I had to get out of it because I 404 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: was going, Like I always talk about how I had 405 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: to leave because I was gonna have a stroke or 406 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: a or a heart attack very soon, because I would 407 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: watch people do this, and I would watch what would 408 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: happen to these people and who who they would become, 409 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: and I thought, no matter how hard you fight it, 410 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: eventually it's gonna get you. Because that's the world that 411 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: these people live in. Twenty four hours a day, seven 412 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: days a week. It's always about trying to one up somebody. 413 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: It's always about trying to win. It's always trying about 414 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: trying to score. 415 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 3: Many times, it's just about maintaining where they currently are. 416 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: Yes, and they all comes back to money, dirty rotten money. 417 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: That's what all of this is about. It's why it 418 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: just makes me so mad, because it's all about greed. 419 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: It's about self indulgence, and it's about greed. And we 420 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: are now seeing this play out right in front of us, 421 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: where people are saying horrible, heinous things about elected officials 422 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: who have reasons for what they're doing. They will come 423 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: out and say, I'm voting against this because and most 424 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: of it comes back to with these people who are 425 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: knows that we did the maps, we did them the 426 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: right way, and we are fine with the maps that 427 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: everybody said was great. Just a couple of years ago. 428 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 1: Nothing's changed. There's nothing wrong with these maps, and if 429 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: we want to win these seats, we should do it 430 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: the right way. How is that anything but good governance? 431 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: How is it anything but what we should want from 432 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 1: our elected officials for them to say, okay. We went 433 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: through a six month process. We heard people speak. We 434 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: took all that hours and hours of testimony from communities 435 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: across the state into account. We drew these maps, which 436 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: are a pretty good representation of our state in terms 437 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: of the makeup of the state. Areas that have a 438 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: Democrat rep are very democrat. All the rest are Republican, 439 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: which are reflection of our state. We heard what people 440 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: wanted and our maps were so good that we were 441 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: one of the few states in the entire nation who 442 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: didn't get sued over our maps. 443 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 2: One way or another. We're okay with good government. 444 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: We're going to keep There's plenty of things we can 445 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: debate and have discussions about. We're going to keep these 446 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: the way they are. And people are feigning outrage over 447 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: politicians going we're going to keep the good government that 448 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: we have. 449 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: So there's a woman on social media and she was 450 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: commenting on Senator Greg Walker. He declined to visit the 451 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 3: Oval office to discuss redistricting. 452 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: Now, yes he is, and he is also a no 453 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 1: vote on redistricting. And this woman, according to her profile, 454 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: she's from Texas. 455 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 4: She's from Texas. 456 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: So all the guy. 457 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: Basically has said is I'm not voting for redistrict. One 458 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: would assume that he is in the same campus the 459 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: rest of the people who are no, or most of 460 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: the people who are no. In which what I just 461 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: laid out to you, we had the process, we heard 462 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: the process. It is a reflection of our state. The 463 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: maps are very good. They do already favor Republicans compared 464 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: to the political makeup. We're fine with it. I'm not 465 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: going forward her response to that. Would you like to 466 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: read this woman's response to Greg Walker, saying, I don't 467 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: need to meet with the president. I've heard the ask, 468 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: I've heard from my constituents. Thank you for your time. 469 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to stay where I am. 470 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so she says, Indiana Senator Greg Walker declines Oval 471 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 3: office visit to discuss redistricting. 472 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 4: What's the dirt on him? We know he's dirty. 473 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 2: Read that again, what's the dirt. 474 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 3: On him, we know he's dirty, And then the comments 475 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 3: go back to references to Bohatchek, and other people are saying, no, 476 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: this is a. 477 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 4: Different guy, wrong guy. What's you're talking about? Two different 478 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 4: people here. 479 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: Give me the dirt on him. Now. 480 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: Some people will say, well, hey, Rob Kendall, you rip 481 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: on these guys all the time. When do we rip 482 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: on them when they're obviously pulling bull crap? Right when 483 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: bad government is clearly taking place, corrupt government is taking place, 484 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: underhanded government is taking place. You notice who they're not 485 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: going after. Scott Baldwin. You know Scott Baldwin. He's the 486 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: senator from Hamilton County who runs a company worth what 487 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: was it two billion dollars? 488 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 2: Envoys the name. It's a construction management firm. 489 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 4: We're two all sources of government contracts. 490 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: Yes, they make a gajillion dollars of local governments, paid 491 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: for in large part by property taxes. 492 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 3: But the reason they're not looking into Scott Baldwin is 493 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 3: because he's a yes on readers, right. 494 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: And so every one of these people, I'm retweeting them 495 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: going up if you would like to see underhanded behavior 496 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: from politicians. 497 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 4: We're talking about corruption and accountability. 498 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, let me introduce you to mister Baldwin over here. 499 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: Oh, you don't give a damn because it's not about 500 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: actually stamping out corruption. It's not about standing on underhanded behavior. 501 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: It's not about talking. It's not about getting rid of 502 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: politicians who vote their own interest at the expense of 503 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: everybody else. 504 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: It's about going after somebody who isn't going to vote 505 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: the way you want them to say yes. 506 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: And nobody cares. Nobody actually cares about Mike Bohatchick's ow I. 507 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 1: Nobody actually cares about that Mike Bohatchick was operating an 508 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: automobile at three and a half times the legal limit. 509 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: If Mike Bohachick had been a yes unredistricting, you wouldn't 510 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: have heard a damn word about it, Which is why 511 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: you don't hear a damn word about Scott Baldwin, because he's. 512 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 2: A yes n redistricting. And this isn't. 513 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: About a better Indiana. It's not about a better you. 514 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: It's not about a betterman of your family. It's about 515 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: all of these people wanting to get something for themselves, 516 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: whether it's clicks, whether it's occurring favor with Trump, whether 517 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: it's on the political class, consultant side money. 518 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 2: At the end of this rainbow, you are being used, 519 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 2: and it is so obvious. What's the dirt on this guy? 520 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 2: Not not? 521 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: Here's the issue with this guy. Somebody give me the dirt. 522 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: There has to be dirt. 523 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 4: There must be dirt somewhere, and there probably is, maybe. 524 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: But what a horrible way to go about it. When 525 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: we go after politicians, we lay it out to you. 526 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: We say, this person voted on A and B and 527 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: C and D, and here's their conflict of interest, Here's 528 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: how they're compromised, here's what's in it for them. 529 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 2: When that happens, Katie bar the door, all bets are off. 530 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: And we've been begging for six months for people to 531 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: go at Bohatchik and nobody said a word until he 532 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: didn't vote the way they wanted. So it isn't actually 533 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: about accountability. It isn't actually about making sure that this 534 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: person is exposed and how leveraged he's been for months, 535 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: and how he's a total toy beholden to Rod Bray 536 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: and the party leadership. This is just about you not 537 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: getting your way. That's what this is about. 538 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 3: We have another swatting incident as well, You've got Indiana 539 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 3: Senate Republican Gene Lisning. 540 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: What's this? So she she is a no vote and. 541 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 3: What she said that her house was the target of 542 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 3: a pipe bomb threat on Saturday evening. But she went 543 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 3: on the record and she said this is a result 544 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 3: of the DC political pundits for redistricting. 545 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 4: So she's just she's connecting it. 546 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, And we had said in the past, because there 547 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: were some people who are on the yes side who 548 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: claim they claim By the way, and I'm not trying 549 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: to indict our state police or anybody looking into this, 550 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: how has nobody been caught all. 551 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 2: Of these are happening behind this? Yeah? Like how I mean, 552 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 2: there's been so many of these. 553 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: Nobody's made a mistake, nobody's like left a digital fingerprint, 554 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: Like there's been no like nothing again all these people, 555 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: this is. 556 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 2: The same guy. 557 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: Like, we're not getting anything from our law enforcement officials, 558 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: Like we're not We're not hearing anything from anybody about 559 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: any of this. And I think the public has a 560 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: vested interest in knowing what's being done and understanding why 561 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: they aren't arrest being made. When you have your law 562 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: or your elected officials being threatened seemingly at least according 563 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: to this lady, directly to how they're voting. I mean, 564 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: this is I mean they're attempting it to intimidate and 565 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: threaten the lives of elected officials because or somebody is 566 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: they're mad about their vote. 567 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 568 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 3: She went on to say that we have to do 569 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: the right thing for our Indiana constituents. 570 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a break. 571 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: We've got to read this tweet that's going around from 572 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 1: some of these elected officials about what a horrible human 573 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: being you are if you're against redistricting. Okay, and this 574 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: is gross, but we need to tell you what they 575 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: actually think about you, if you have any independent thought whatsoever. 576 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 4: You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC. 577 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll get to more redistricting conversation in just a 578 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: little bit, including this like gross tweet that's going around 579 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: about how our lawmakers are labeling you as a horrible, 580 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: rotten human who's facilitating the demise of society if you 581 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: have any independent thought whatsoever. 582 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 4: There's also a draft that's going around of the maps. 583 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: Yes, it is believed. I got it about a half 584 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: hour ago. I think NICKI Kelly's put it out now 585 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: about what the map may look like. And I gotta 586 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: get into next hour two this conversation I had with 587 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 1: the farmer last night, because that was fascinating. So we'll 588 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: do all that next hour. But I did want to 589 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: mention because this is a very interesting look into how 590 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: the media works. We lost a very famous Hoosier over 591 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: the weekend. Fuzzy Zeller passed away and I believe maybe 592 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: this was on Friday, nos Thursday or Friday, yeah, Thanksgiving. 593 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: In fact, I think he passed away on Thanksgiving. And 594 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: for those who don't know, Fuzzy Zeller was a famous golfer, 595 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: two time major champion, won the Masters in nineteen seventy nine, 596 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: won the US Open beating Greg Norman, who was arguably 597 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: the best player in the world nineteen eighty four in 598 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: a playoff, and so very accomplished Who's your Golfer, But 599 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: also probably became best known in life as just kind 600 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: of being a lovable character of the game of golf. 601 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: He was hilarious, he'd playing the Skins games. He had 602 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: a really in later years A vodka had a very 603 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: prominent vodka that was served here in Central Indiana and 604 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: across the country brand. Yeah, and so he passed away, 605 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: he was seventy four. But what I found fastic, This 606 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: is such a great look into the media. So Tiger 607 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: Woods won the Masters in nineteen ninety seven. He obliterates 608 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: the field. He's you know, he'd done the big Hello world. 609 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: He's the arguably the most famous athlete on the planet, 610 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: next to maybe Michael Jordan at that point. And Fuzzy 611 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: Zeller got interviewed as a Masters champion. He was entitled, 612 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: when you win the Masters, you can play at the 613 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: Masters for the remainder of your life. You're a previous champion. 614 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: If you wanted to play until you're eighty years old, 615 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: you could do that. So Fuzzy Zeller, even though he's 616 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: you know, passed his prime in nineteen ninety seven, and 617 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: he's interviewed about Tiger Woods and you know, obliterat glittering 618 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: the field, and he makes a comment that was wholly inappropriate. 619 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: But keep in mind, there's no track record of Fuzzy 620 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: Zeller being a racist or making racist statements or you know, 621 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: being racially and like, there's none of this in this 622 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: guy's background. And I'll I'll read the statement because it's 623 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: been in news articles all over the place. It was 624 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: highly publicized at the time the audio was played. So 625 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm not and I'm not using any profanity or any 626 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: any words. 627 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 2: It can't be used. 628 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: And so when you win the Masters the next year, 629 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: you're responsible for the dinner that all the previous champions 630 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: are taken every the night before. You're like the host 631 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: of it, right, so you get to pick the food 632 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: and everything else. So Fuzzy Zeller gets asked about Tiger 633 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: Woods winning the Masters, who obviously Tiger is is black. 634 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: He said, quote, so you know what you guys do 635 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: when he gets when he gets in here, you pat 636 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: him on the back, and you say congratulations and enjoy 637 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: it and tell him not to serve fried chicken next year. 638 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: Got it. 639 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: Now, that's racially insensitive. It was totally uncalled for. He 640 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: was just raked over the coals. R He apologized profusely. 641 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: He said, you know that's not who I am. I've 642 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: never never, ever been racist, you. 643 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 4: Know, he said. 644 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 3: Well, he said that the incident caused him years of 645 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 3: anguish it did, I mean even death threats, And then 646 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 3: in two thousand and eight he said it was the worst. 647 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 4: Experience of his life. But guy like I regretted saying it. 648 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: He apologized profusely. And it's so so interesting because when 649 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: he died, the first thing I thought it was him 650 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: winning at the Masters as a rookie and then his 651 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: famous showdown with Greg Norman where he won. This wasn't 652 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: even a thought in my mind, And I think to 653 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: most people who follow golf, this wasn't even a thought 654 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: in their mind, like this is a minor blip on 655 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: the radar of Fuzzy Zeller's life. 656 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 3: But every ride up about him, obituary style mentions that, yes. 657 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: Yes, this guy won the two biggest golf tournaments in 658 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: the world, the Masters and the US Open. And here's 659 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: the associated press headline for him. Fuzzy Zeller, two time 660 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: Major champion, haunted by racist joke about Tiger Woods, dies 661 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: at seventy four, as though he was some scrooge like 662 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: character who was visited by the ghost of racial sensitivity 663 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: past president future vowing shouting all change, waking from a 664 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: slumber on Christmas morning. Like no person who knew Fuzzy 665 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,239 Speaker 1: Zeller thought he was a racist ever thought about this 666 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: after he got pasted it. It wasn't in the forefront 667 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: of anybody's mind. But to the media, that's the headline. 668 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: That's the one thing that's going to stay with him. 669 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: That's that's who the national media is, as though he 670 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: was like some grand Wizard of the KKK running around 671 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: on golf courses with with this white sheet. Just disgusting, 672 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: just absolutely discussing. So I wanted to point out what 673 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: a great Hoosier Fuzzy Zeller. Actually he was seventy four 674 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: years old. They didn't mention how he passed away. Yeah, 675 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: it kind of sounded like it was someone unexpected. Could 676 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: have been a heart attack, stroke, don't know, but recipes 677 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: Fuzzy Zeller, what a talent to Hoosier. 678 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 4: You're listening to Kenvil and Casey. It is ninety three 679 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 4: WYBC