WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Hour 3: Panthering Up??? 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.100 Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby. 0:00:07.140 --> 0:00:10.800 This is my friend Matt. Posh, come on, Posh. This 0:00:10.860 --> 0:00:14.830 is my friend T-Bone. Let's have some fun. 0:00:14.970 --> 0:00:18.310 I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone. 0:00:18.329 --> 0:00:18.910 Do it live. 0:00:27.050 --> 0:00:31.320 Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. We got two more hours to go, baby. 0:00:31.380 --> 0:00:35.770 Eight o'clockers. We getting ready to talk Panthers. Are you 0:00:35.850 --> 0:00:40.180 Panthering up, y'all? Vegas seems to know something, Boning. Panthers 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.760 only two and a half point dogs against the six 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:43.720 and two Broncos. 0:00:44.100 --> 0:00:46.880 But there is that O-line thing, Bone. There is that 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:47.460 O-line thing. 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:49.540 So we'll talk through it all coming up later this 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.740 hour on the Mac and Bone show. We'll preview the 0:00:52.900 --> 0:00:57.200 mammoth college football weekend of seven freaking ranked matchups. You know, 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:59.050 we got to talk Duke State. You know, we got 0:00:59.060 --> 0:01:02.210 to talk. about all the games for local teams. Gamecocks, 0:01:02.250 --> 0:01:04.650 can they keep going? I've already scheduled my lunch for tomorrow. 0:01:04.790 --> 0:01:08.730 You've already got your lunch delivery for tomorrow's big slate 0:01:08.750 --> 0:01:09.250 of games? 0:01:09.350 --> 0:01:09.649 Yeah. 0:01:09.670 --> 0:01:12.930 Feels like barbecue tomorrow. Okay. 0:01:13.069 --> 0:01:15.929 I can't go wrong there. But right now, we're going 0:01:15.950 --> 0:01:19.370 to talk matchups. We're going to talk ACC football. But 0:01:19.410 --> 0:01:22.030 we're also going to talk about those first playoff standings, 0:01:22.690 --> 0:01:25.220 rankings not being kind to Wake Forest and. 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:26.880 Therefore the ACC. 0:01:27.620 --> 0:01:32.500 Taylor Tannenbaum, ACC Network, the hostess with the mostest, is 0:01:32.540 --> 0:01:35.140 with us to talk all things ACC right now. 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:36.800 Taylor, what's going on? How you doing? 0:01:37.690 --> 0:01:39.050 Always great to be with you, friends. 0:01:39.170 --> 0:01:39.610 I'm good. 0:01:39.630 --> 0:01:43.050 I'm putting my final touches on my packing because we 0:01:43.069 --> 0:01:46.930 are heading to Syracuse, New York. So that's a drive 0:01:47.030 --> 0:01:50.130 from my stomping grounds here in In Connecticut. 0:01:50.510 --> 0:01:52.090 Ooh, okay. 0:01:52.110 --> 0:01:56.240 That's an intriguing game with the way Syracuse has played 0:01:56.300 --> 0:01:59.780 the last two weeks. Clemson finally got offense going last week. 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.520 That's kind of interesting, that game. It's not snowing there yet, 0:02:02.580 --> 0:02:02.790 is it? 0:02:04.610 --> 0:02:05.430 No, but it's. 0:02:05.550 --> 0:02:09.290 Rainy and cold, so you know it could potentially happen. 0:02:09.350 --> 0:02:13.090 It could snow because we're rolling into town naturally. It 0:02:13.190 --> 0:02:17.870 is somewhat intriguing, you guys, because Well, Clemson, for one, 0:02:18.070 --> 0:02:20.590 is not fully out of the ACC championship race by 0:02:20.630 --> 0:02:22.650 any stretch because of the way things have been going 0:02:22.690 --> 0:02:26.350 in the league. And they looked competent offensively last week. 0:02:26.389 --> 0:02:28.190 I'm not going to say it was their greatest performance, 0:02:28.970 --> 0:02:31.230 but you did have Tate Reynolds looking like a more 0:02:31.270 --> 0:02:34.070 mature quarterback in his sixth start and running the offense 0:02:34.090 --> 0:02:37.040 a little bit better. And then you have a Syracuse 0:02:37.060 --> 0:02:39.859 team that's confident, right? They've won two straight, and there's 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:43.079 this little bromance between Fran Brown and Davos Sweeney over 0:02:43.100 --> 0:02:47.100 the years from a few years ago and Syracuse knocked 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.100 off Miami in that regular season finale, which ultimately sent 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:53.380 Clemson to the ACC championship game and then the college 0:02:53.430 --> 0:02:57.369 football playoff. And last year, Syracuse going to Death Valley 0:02:57.510 --> 0:02:59.930 and beating Clemson there. That's when they lost their quarterback, 0:02:59.950 --> 0:03:02.630 Steve Angeli, to that Achilles injury. And both have been 0:03:02.669 --> 0:03:05.650 very complimentary of each other. So a pivotal point, it 0:03:05.669 --> 0:03:08.329 feels like, for both programs. For Syracuse, it's about bowl 0:03:08.430 --> 0:03:11.810 eligibility at this point. And for Clemson, it's how are 0:03:11.830 --> 0:03:14.620 you going to close out this season that did not 0:03:14.780 --> 0:03:16.880 start or has looked the way that we thought it would. 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.950 Syracuse, such a different team, and the numbers bear out too, 0:03:19.990 --> 0:03:23.310 Mac and Taylor, with Angele versus without them. So it 0:03:23.370 --> 0:03:28.720 makes a much more difficult matchup for Clemson tomorrow. ACC Network, 0:03:28.740 --> 0:03:32.440 check out Taylor and the gang. all their coverage there. Taylor, 0:03:32.590 --> 0:03:35.710 we know here and you know from what you do 0:03:35.750 --> 0:03:39.590 day in, day out, how good Wake Forest is. But 0:03:39.650 --> 0:03:43.530 it's not shocking to us that maybe nationally and committee-wise 0:03:43.570 --> 0:03:46.560 they were disrespected. It doesn't mean it's not annoying, but 0:03:46.580 --> 0:03:49.100 it's not shocking to us. What's your take on Wake 0:03:49.140 --> 0:03:52.060 Forest in the initial playoff rankings based on their level 0:03:52.100 --> 0:03:54.440 of dominance lately that they came in at No. 0:03:54.420 --> 0:03:55.970 16? 0:03:55.970 --> 0:04:00.310 I'm really disappointed. Again, like you just said, I'm not shocked, 0:04:00.410 --> 0:04:03.060 but I'm really disappointed if you've watched football at all. 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:05.980 And even if you look at their record, their only 0:04:06.020 --> 0:04:08.120 loss is quite literally to the number one team in 0:04:08.140 --> 0:04:12.320 the country. You would recognize that that's a top 10 team. 0:04:12.450 --> 0:04:14.890 My biggest thing is, look, I'm not going to blow 0:04:14.930 --> 0:04:18.130 it out of proportion, despite what my mind is telling 0:04:18.170 --> 0:04:22.100 me after release of week one. Okay. Because they do 0:04:22.130 --> 0:04:24.520 still have quote unquote opportunity ahead of them, which is 0:04:24.580 --> 0:04:27.240 simply just winning out and continuing to play the way 0:04:27.260 --> 0:04:29.779 they are at the level they are. But my biggest 0:04:29.860 --> 0:04:33.500 issue is the disparity and the lack of clarity from 0:04:34.070 --> 0:04:37.989 the committee. It's obvious they're valuing wins and ranked wins. 0:04:38.050 --> 0:04:41.290 And that's why the SEC has as many teams in 0:04:41.310 --> 0:04:43.130 there as they do. And as many in the top 0:04:43.130 --> 0:04:45.680 12 as they do, despite several of them having two losses. 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.650 But it's, To me, why is Wake 16 and, like 0:04:49.710 --> 0:04:52.390 I say, Indiana is four, or even a Notre Dame 0:04:52.660 --> 0:04:55.420 at 11? None of those have a ranked win on 0:04:55.460 --> 0:05:01.219 their schedule. The metrics essentially align Indiana and Wake Forest. 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.220 The eye test would tell you Wake Forest is playing, 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:06.919 especially in the last month, significantly better than Indiana. And 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.339 credit where credit is due, the Hoosiers are the reigning 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:13.599 national champions, but that was last year. This is this year. Um, 0:05:14.060 --> 0:05:16.289 so to me, it's not necessarily, I'm going to complain 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.310 about where wake is ranked. I don't think they're 16. 0:05:19.290 --> 0:05:20.969 I think they should be a top 10, at least 0:05:20.970 --> 0:05:23.190 12 teams. But to me, it's the disparity and the 0:05:23.230 --> 0:05:26.170 lack of clarity from the committee and in why. And 0:05:26.230 --> 0:05:28.310 to me, when you boil it down, the only reason 0:05:28.330 --> 0:05:30.810 would be is because quote unquote, they play in the ACC, 0:05:30.860 --> 0:05:34.540 which is a perceived lesser conference. When we're also in 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.730 the same breath, having the same conversation, um, that there's 0:05:37.750 --> 0:05:40.430 more parody in the country than ever before, but this 0:05:40.490 --> 0:05:42.490 league's not getting that benefit of the doubt. Instead, the 0:05:42.529 --> 0:05:44.570 league is just not good when it could just be 0:05:44.620 --> 0:05:48.080 that everyone is beating up on each other like other leagues. 0:05:48.100 --> 0:05:50.980 So that's my short spiel. I have the numbers to 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:55.120 back it up, but hopefully they can continue to win. 0:05:55.630 --> 0:05:57.710 We'll see what the status is of their quarterback, Gio Lopez, 0:05:57.730 --> 0:06:02.810 because he did definitely injure that knee last game. So 0:06:02.970 --> 0:06:04.430 we'll continue to monitor that. 0:06:04.529 --> 0:06:06.190 Luckily, they have the Mary Mac game. 0:06:06.230 --> 0:06:09.630 No disrespect to Mary Mac, but I'm just being real, 0:06:09.650 --> 0:06:10.070 Mary Mac. 0:06:10.110 --> 0:06:11.070 I'm being real on this one. 0:06:11.710 --> 0:06:13.950 But luckily, they have that game, but they got SMU 0:06:14.710 --> 0:06:17.990 next week. SMU's got Virginia Tech tonight in an important one. 0:06:18.450 --> 0:06:20.610 I want to follow up on what you're saying, Taylor. 0:06:20.650 --> 0:06:24.820 The thing that gets me, and I do acknowledge that 0:06:24.900 --> 0:06:27.539 the way their rankings shape up, they don't have the 0:06:27.580 --> 0:06:31.060 ranked win rate. But the thing that stinks is it 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:34.820 seems to be apparent that they're going to have to 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:38.900 win the ACC outright to get in, right? Like they 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.300 don't have a chance of playing Miami down to the wire, 0:06:41.740 --> 0:06:44.060 blowing everybody else out and get in. 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:45.760 And I hate that for Deke fans. 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.460 Me too. And that's sort of what they're signifying. Now 0:06:49.490 --> 0:06:51.670 I will say there are a ton of teams in 0:06:51.710 --> 0:06:53.750 front of them that will inevitably beat up on each other, 0:06:53.790 --> 0:06:57.910 but because the committee is so evidently valuing you know, 0:06:57.930 --> 0:06:59.950 your strength of schedule and who you beat, those are 0:06:59.970 --> 0:07:02.430 all going to be ranked wins in the SEC because 0:07:02.450 --> 0:07:05.570 they're putting the SEC in all of these ranked positions 0:07:05.710 --> 0:07:09.710 and not valuing anything this league has done. So, yeah, 0:07:09.750 --> 0:07:13.000 that is disappointing. And, again, you just kind of have 0:07:13.020 --> 0:07:15.180 to go out there and take care of your business 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:19.140 and let everything catch fire around you, which is subject 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.700 to happen. And I will say, you know, like, the 0:07:21.740 --> 0:07:23.760 rest of the league in the ACC does have to 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.550 carry its water. Like, you know, that game next week 0:07:26.590 --> 0:07:30.050 against SMU was slated to be a ranked win, and 0:07:30.150 --> 0:07:33.390 then SMU goes and loses to Syracuse. And while Syracuse 0:07:33.590 --> 0:07:36.170 is on a hotter streak, when you're at the top 0:07:36.210 --> 0:07:38.660 of the league, you have to carry that water. And unfortunately, 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.640 you saw like a Virginia Tech lose to a Cal 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.460 or else that could have potentially been a ranked game 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.440 on Friday. And you have a Louisville team whose only 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.130 three losses– are by three points each. And, oh, by 0:07:49.150 --> 0:07:50.910 the way, one of them is to a top-ten team 0:07:50.950 --> 0:07:53.489 in Ole Miss, but we're not going to acknowledge that, apparently. 0:07:53.690 --> 0:07:56.370 The State loss is the one with Louisville-Taylor where it's like, 0:07:56.410 --> 0:07:58.770 come on, you're not helping the Con. As much as I, like, 0:07:58.850 --> 0:08:01.790 personally wanted State to win, it's like, come on. 0:08:01.830 --> 0:08:05.090 You can't lose to NC State because that's a ranked 0:08:05.130 --> 0:08:09.250 win that falls off of Wake's schedule. You know, it's 0:08:09.310 --> 0:08:11.170 all tied together. But go out, take care of your business, 0:08:11.230 --> 0:08:13.390 and hope that the rest of the country cannibalizes itself. 0:08:13.650 --> 0:08:15.750 And, Taylor, the team at the top right now, Miami, 0:08:15.770 --> 0:08:17.780 has been teetering a little bit in some of these games, 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.560 and that was with Malachi, Tony. Now we find out 0:08:20.620 --> 0:08:25.520 he's out for a while here. How worried are you, 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.320 not just about the Notre Dame game? Of course, that's 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:30.400 tough with or without Tony. But the stretch run, how 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:34.740 can Miami survive this without Tony here for the next four, five, 0:08:34.780 --> 0:08:35.180 six weeks? 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:43.350 Run the damn ball. I will say, obviously Malachi Tony 0:08:43.370 --> 0:08:46.790 is the engine that makes this offense go, but don't 0:08:46.850 --> 0:08:49.850 forget they have a Heisman Trophy candidate at quarterback in 0:08:49.890 --> 0:08:52.100 Darian Mensah, and that just didn't pop up overnight because 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.579 he got a good receiver. This has been a strong 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.620 sample size from Tulane to Duke to now at Miami. 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.120 And the thing is, Malachi Tony eats up so much 0:09:01.700 --> 0:09:05.400 of the catches that other people haven't had to step up. 0:09:05.420 --> 0:09:07.180 This is your chance to go shine. He has his 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.820 Robin to his Batman from Duke and Cooper barking, who 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.580 has really yet to break out. You've seen flashes, but 0:09:13.620 --> 0:09:15.760 they have a rapport that was built two years ago. 0:09:16.179 --> 0:09:18.020 And then you have a young guy in Galen Upshaw. 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:21.360 You do have an elite tight end and Elijah Lofton. 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:25.219 So it's just incumbent on other people to find, to 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:27.970 finally step up and fill that void that Malachi Tony 0:09:27.990 --> 0:09:29.750 is going to leave. And you have a stable of backs. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.470 You have Mark Fletcher. You have JV and Mallory who 0:09:32.510 --> 0:09:38.350 has really come into his own as a Shannon Dawson, 0:09:38.370 --> 0:09:40.290 the offensive coordinator, is going to call a great game 0:09:40.330 --> 0:09:42.339 like he always does. It's not like they're without weapons. 0:09:42.390 --> 0:09:46.200 I'm more concerned defensively, you guys, honestly. The offense is 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:47.800 going to do its thing. I do think it will 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:51.220 score points, even though Notre Dame's defense is quite literally 0:09:51.260 --> 0:09:54.550 the best in the country. um the defense has to 0:09:55.090 --> 0:09:57.620 to pull its weight like they can't just be allowing 0:09:57.620 --> 0:10:00.319 30 plus points per game if they are going to 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.540 survive this stretch run without a malachi tony. 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:04.960 Yeah no doubt that past defense you saw it last 0:10:05.020 --> 0:10:08.900 week they made billy edwards look like drake may last 0:10:08.940 --> 0:10:12.060 week so yeah and the florida state game too so 0:10:12.500 --> 0:10:15.580 It's a huge game. I hate it that Tony's not playing. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.900 It's such a showcase game. It does suck. I do 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:24.800 wonder how the committee, not to go back to the committee, Taylor, 0:10:24.830 --> 0:10:28.410 and get on that fun topic again, but I'm wondering 0:10:28.610 --> 0:10:32.450 if they were to lose without Tony, but they then 0:10:32.690 --> 0:10:36.850 lost to Wake in the ACC title game, would they 0:10:36.870 --> 0:10:38.630 get a bit of a break and definitely be in 0:10:38.650 --> 0:10:41.210 the field because the loss was to Notre Dame without 0:10:41.250 --> 0:10:42.050 Malachi Tony? 0:10:43.929 --> 0:10:45.550 If you're going to tell me that you are going 0:10:45.690 --> 0:10:49.410 to keep out Miami after watching them an entirety of 0:10:49.450 --> 0:10:53.010 the season and full well knowing that he is capable 0:10:53.050 --> 0:10:55.900 of returning for a playoff and leave them out, then 0:10:55.940 --> 0:10:56.839 abolish the committee. 0:10:57.540 --> 0:10:58.099 Respectfully. 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:00.680 But Miami, too, has to win the rest of its 0:11:00.740 --> 0:11:03.680 regular season games if by chance something goes wrong at 0:11:03.740 --> 0:11:06.930 Notre Dame. You have to acknowledge that they have other 0:11:06.950 --> 0:11:10.350 elite players on this team, including at quarterback. But it's 0:11:10.410 --> 0:11:12.850 incumbent on Miami to just not even allow the committee 0:11:12.890 --> 0:11:13.809 to be in this conversation. 0:11:13.990 --> 0:11:14.250 Yeah. 0:11:14.350 --> 0:11:16.410 No, I'm with you on that. I, and, and, and 0:11:16.450 --> 0:11:18.859 your run the damn ball comment. Like I do kind 0:11:18.900 --> 0:11:21.440 of wonder, not that like Mensa, like to your point 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:24.120 is really good, but I do wonder no names run 0:11:24.140 --> 0:11:27.020 defense is damn good. But do they say Mark Fletcher, 0:11:27.059 --> 0:11:29.860 this game's on you. We given you the ball 30 times. 0:11:29.900 --> 0:11:32.700 Like I wonder if they try and then ball control 0:11:32.780 --> 0:11:35.709 it and keep car off the field and protect your defense. 0:11:36.370 --> 0:11:38.490 I wonder if they try that, you know, I think 0:11:38.530 --> 0:11:40.429 it's definitely going to be part of the game plan. 0:11:40.470 --> 0:11:41.630 And I think Mark Fletcher. 0:11:41.350 --> 0:11:44.270 Is going to say, I want the ball on my shoulders. 0:11:44.290 --> 0:11:46.550 He did it in the playoff last year. He is 0:11:46.830 --> 0:11:49.510 more than capable of carrying a load and then some. 0:11:50.030 --> 0:11:52.550 And I think as a senior leader and Malachi, Tony 0:11:52.590 --> 0:11:55.530 is one of his closest, dearest friends. You're going to 0:11:55.570 --> 0:11:57.250 see that this weekend. I think they're going to have 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.520 added motivation, which is not necessarily what you want. Now 0:11:59.580 --> 0:12:01.820 credit to Notre Dame. They are an elite football team. 0:12:01.900 --> 0:12:04.360 They too are dealing with some, some valuable injuries. 0:12:06.140 --> 0:12:09.660 If the committee even thought about leaving Miami out, I 0:12:09.740 --> 0:12:13.179 think that Michael Irvin would go get the RV that 0:12:13.210 --> 0:12:15.550 he gave to Mama Fletcher and drive it into the 0:12:15.610 --> 0:12:16.790 offices of the committee. 0:12:17.050 --> 0:12:19.070 He'd knock all their hats off that rack. I'm terrified 0:12:19.110 --> 0:12:20.590 how that man would react to this. All their hats 0:12:20.610 --> 0:12:21.870 would fall off that rack, Boney. 0:12:22.990 --> 0:12:25.270 He really might. You're so right about that. But man, 0:12:25.550 --> 0:12:28.050 if a Miami team gets left out of a 12-team 0:12:28.090 --> 0:12:31.540 playoff by potentially losing a close one to Notre Dame 0:12:31.580 --> 0:12:33.880 and falling short in a championship game that a lot 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:37.120 of three-loss SEC teams aren't even going to be playing in, oh, 0:12:37.140 --> 0:12:39.020 by the way, then you're not putting the 12 best 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:40.880 teams in the country in the playoff, and you're doing 0:12:40.900 --> 0:12:41.780 the fans a disservice. 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.640 This text is hilarious. 704 number says, Mac, what are 0:12:44.660 --> 0:12:47.200 you doing to poor Taylor? You're bringing up hypotheticals that 0:12:47.220 --> 0:12:49.400 are getting her even more angry. Please don't do this. 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:50.740 Oh, yeah. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:52.880 Listen, I promised myself I wouldn't. 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:53.380 Get riled up. 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:55.780 I promised myself, but I can't do it, you guys. 0:12:55.970 --> 0:12:56.780 I am who I am. 0:12:56.870 --> 0:12:59.950 But that's why we love you is like you are 0:13:00.030 --> 0:13:00.950 just passionate. 0:13:01.030 --> 0:13:02.270 You have opinions. You know what I mean? 0:13:02.290 --> 0:13:04.490 You've got opinions. You back it up with facts. It's 0:13:04.510 --> 0:13:06.950 not like you're just throwing crazy stuff out like our 0:13:06.970 --> 0:13:07.650 text line does. 0:13:08.570 --> 0:13:10.290 You got facts, baby. I like it. 0:13:10.429 --> 0:13:13.730 Only sometimes, you know? Hand over to my Twitter for 0:13:13.750 --> 0:13:15.949 the real facts because I'll drop numbers on there. 0:13:16.450 --> 0:13:17.030 What do you think? 0:13:17.070 --> 0:13:18.430 Before we let you go, we've got to ask you 0:13:18.450 --> 0:13:22.750 about Duke-NC State, a big game here in our neck 0:13:22.790 --> 0:13:25.840 of the woods. Duke has, and Bone has reminded State 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:27.700 fans of this over the last three years. 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:29.660 Just numbers. I just have the numbers, Taylor. 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:33.120 I can't deny it. Double-digit wins each of the last 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:37.310 three years for Duke over State. Do you think that continues? 0:13:37.370 --> 0:13:38.590 What are your thoughts on this one? 0:13:39.730 --> 0:13:48.020 I remember sidelining that 23 game in Durham. That was 0:13:48.059 --> 0:13:48.420 not good. 0:13:48.580 --> 0:13:50.640 That was a real bad one for State. 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:55.429 That was not good at all. I think Duke has 0:13:56.010 --> 0:13:58.890 the best running back and one of the best players 0:13:58.929 --> 0:14:02.530 in the country. By the way, they just launched... Nate 0:14:02.550 --> 0:14:05.020 Shepard's Heisman campaign, too, and rightfully so. His numbers are 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.420 off the charts. I don't know that NC State for 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:09.540 four quarters can sustain trying to figure out how to 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:14.900 stop Nate Shepard. That's just what this game boils down to, 0:14:14.940 --> 0:14:16.979 I think. It will be great for NC State to 0:14:17.020 --> 0:14:20.400 get Duke Scott back if they do because they need 0:14:20.420 --> 0:14:24.250 a run game. It's... You know, they want to compete 0:14:24.260 --> 0:14:26.850 in this one, I think, to be sustainable and not 0:14:26.870 --> 0:14:30.130 just leave it up to C.J. Bailey and this passing 0:14:30.150 --> 0:14:33.110 game against a really, really, really good Duke defense. So 0:14:33.630 --> 0:14:36.710 those are some things to monitor, but trying to stop 0:14:36.730 --> 0:14:38.990 Nate Shepard is something people haven't been able to do. 0:14:39.050 --> 0:14:40.350 If they can do it on the ground, great, but 0:14:40.370 --> 0:14:41.770 he's going to kill you in the pass game. 0:14:42.310 --> 0:14:42.610 That's true. 0:14:42.630 --> 0:14:45.110 He's more scrimmage yards than anybody else in the country, 0:14:45.110 --> 0:14:45.690 18 of them. 0:14:46.050 --> 0:14:49.510 He's got 972 rush yards and 14 rush TDs. 31 0:14:51.740 --> 0:14:56.580 catches for 302 receiving yards and four receiving TDs. He 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.330 has to be a Heisman finalist, doesn't he? And I 0:14:59.370 --> 0:15:02.090 don't have confidence that the voters will do that, but 0:15:02.470 --> 0:15:04.740 doesn't he have to be a finalist, y'all, if he 0:15:04.750 --> 0:15:05.340 keeps this up? 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:06.480 Absolutely does. 0:15:07.790 --> 0:15:09.880 I think numerically, yes, absolutely. 0:15:09.910 --> 0:15:12.700 The good news is Duke does play Miami next week, 0:15:13.180 --> 0:15:15.660 and Duke does play Wake Forest. So he's going to 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.600 have chances to show not just the ACC we're watching, 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:22.730 but the country who he really is against a legitimate... 0:15:23.190 --> 0:15:24.850 contender for a college football playoff. 0:15:24.990 --> 0:15:25.410 Good point. 0:15:25.450 --> 0:15:27.230 And he has those numbers and he wasn't healthy for 0:15:27.270 --> 0:15:29.910 about three weeks here. If he was actually healthy. 0:15:30.350 --> 0:15:33.950 Yeah. No, that's a great point too, man. Y'all are 0:15:33.970 --> 0:15:34.590 all over it, man. 0:15:34.670 --> 0:15:37.580 I feel, I feel, I feel like we're all vibing 0:15:37.620 --> 0:15:39.780 right now on the same page. We do need to 0:15:39.820 --> 0:15:43.260 shout out Taylor. She has added like a 14th job 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:48.479 at ESPN or, you know, with, with ESPN, the ACC network, 0:15:48.860 --> 0:15:51.550 you now are going to be doing for ESPN a, 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.140 coverage of the women's TGL golf. 0:15:54.220 --> 0:15:54.880 Is this true? 0:15:54.900 --> 0:15:56.780 It is true. 0:15:57.100 --> 0:15:58.330 It starts on Sunday. 0:15:58.350 --> 0:16:02.150 It's the inaugural season of WTGL. They're heading into year 0:16:02.170 --> 0:16:03.310 three of TGL. 0:16:03.350 --> 0:16:07.290 So they wanted to get the ladies involved in rightfully so. And, uh, 0:16:07.330 --> 0:16:11.410 there are some incredible names, uh, from the LPGA that 0:16:11.430 --> 0:16:14.120 are coming over to play in this, including headline by 0:16:14.140 --> 0:16:14.880 Michelle Lee West. 0:16:14.940 --> 0:16:19.620 Everybody knows her. Um, and, And I'm excited to dive 0:16:19.700 --> 0:16:23.170 into an aspect of sports that I'm not normally dabbling in, 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.220 which is golf. But it's so different. And I hope 0:16:25.660 --> 0:16:28.660 people will tune in. Our first match is Sunday at 0:16:28.660 --> 0:16:30.510 3 o'clock on ESPN. And I know a lot of 0:16:30.530 --> 0:16:32.610 people will be watching NFL. But if you want a 0:16:32.610 --> 0:16:34.250 little change of pace and to see some of these 0:16:34.310 --> 0:16:38.320 incredible ladies do their thing. um, lock in and then we'll, 0:16:38.340 --> 0:16:40.500 we'll see what I bring to the table because this 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:43.440 is a fun, exciting learning experience for all of us 0:16:43.460 --> 0:16:45.830 because it's never been done before. So let's get it. 0:16:45.990 --> 0:16:47.890 So Sunday's your day off. You said, I'll just throw 0:16:47.910 --> 0:16:49.790 another job on the table. Who needs days off? 0:16:49.890 --> 0:16:51.410 Who needs a day off? 0:16:51.430 --> 0:16:54.270 We'll sleep in June. 0:16:54.330 --> 0:16:58.550 All right, Taylor, you rock. Congratulations on that and all 0:16:58.590 --> 0:17:02.010 your success. Um, uh, thanks for coming on. We appreciate it. 0:17:02.750 --> 0:17:05.440 You guys are the absolute best anytime, and I hopefully 0:17:05.500 --> 0:17:06.899 will see you soon. 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.780 Yes, definitely, definitely. All right, Taylor, be good. Thank you, Taylor. 0:17:09.820 --> 0:17:11.399 There you go. That is Taylor Tannenbaum. 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:13.600 I guess she's referencing ACC titles. 0:17:13.619 --> 0:17:16.230 She'll be here, right, in Charlotte? Yes. Does she want 0:17:16.250 --> 0:17:18.949 to do a studio visit? Not many do, Bone. Oh, yeah, 0:17:18.970 --> 0:17:19.369 she'll be here. 0:17:19.410 --> 0:17:22.550 Maybe she does. Oh, by the way, one quick thing 0:17:22.650 --> 0:17:26.030 on golf. How about Liv? Pour one out for Liv. 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.719 It is finally over. That abomination of a horrendous idea 0:17:32.180 --> 0:17:35.460 that all it did, Bone, is cost the Saudis gazillions 0:17:35.500 --> 0:17:39.290 of dollars. All it did is cost many golfers, Bone, 0:17:40.710 --> 0:17:45.390 trust and I don't know, actual likability for the decisions 0:17:45.450 --> 0:17:49.290 they made. What a complete epic failure. Like that is 0:17:49.390 --> 0:17:53.540 like a sports equivalent of Coca-Cola trying new Coke. I mean, 0:17:54.220 --> 0:17:56.660 that's like the glowing puck on Fox. That's how bad 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:57.920 that damn thing failed. 0:17:57.940 --> 0:17:59.530 You're going to do a list of your top five 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:01.550 live moments here throughout the show. 0:18:02.010 --> 0:18:02.710 Give us one of them. 0:18:03.369 --> 0:18:06.209 I liked it when they once had 300 viewers for 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:07.240 one of their golf tournaments. 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.580 I mean, that thing, no one was watching. Even with 0:18:11.619 --> 0:18:12.859 the big names, no. 0:18:12.780 --> 0:18:16.040 One cared enough to put it on. Anyway, man, good 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:18.420 riddance to that. Let's get everybody back on the same 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:20.020 damn tour and rock and roll, man. 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:20.620 Yes, sir. 0:18:20.660 --> 0:18:22.679 When we come back here on the Mac and Bone Show, 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:26.800 does Panther Nation have any confidence with Denver coming to town? 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.040 Denver's coming down that mountain, Mac. Are we going to 0:18:29.060 --> 0:18:32.180 Panther up and send them back home with the big 0:18:32.330 --> 0:18:35.330 old L-ski? As Mac says, Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ. 0:18:48.470 --> 0:18:50.430 They went nine straight drives without scoring. 0:18:50.490 --> 0:18:53.250 How impressive and how impressed with you were the defense today? 0:18:53.930 --> 0:18:56.850 I was. I wish we would have finished better. I 0:18:56.890 --> 0:19:01.010 said this, it's not a good offense we played. It's 0:19:01.030 --> 0:19:06.610 just the truth. So we expected that and we're going 0:19:06.630 --> 0:19:07.570 to see a lot better teams. 0:19:09.390 --> 0:19:11.250 All right, so you got to go backbone to the 0:19:11.250 --> 0:19:12.750