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Speaker 1: In a good Tuesday morning to everybody out there, thank

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Speaker 1: you for spending it with us. This is the Fan

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Speaker 1: Morning show. Three Man Weave today, Kevin Bowen, James Floyd,

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Speaker 1: Mark Dyketon, and I would say me leading the three

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Speaker 1: man weave on the basketball floor is kind of like

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Speaker 1: the commute in this morning. We can maybe get to

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Speaker 1: to be the smoothest thing in the world. Slightly better,

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Speaker 1: That's what I'll go with for the morning commute. Now, Mark,

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Speaker 1: this is your first commute from the west side, correct, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you would give it what letter grade.

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Speaker 2: B.

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Speaker 3: Still obviously the side streets not great, but once I

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Speaker 3: got to sixty five South, I'd say it's pretty immaculate.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty you know, you can actually see the markings

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Speaker 3: on the streets. The lanes are clear for the most part.

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Speaker 1: Be an immaculate there. And Mark Darkton is usually a

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Speaker 1: hard greater when it comes to ye roadway soul. James Boyd,

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Speaker 1: you have our shortest commute in any observations.

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Speaker 4: Where I live.

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Speaker 5: I live on a side street, so it was much

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Speaker 5: better than it was yesterday. Just getting out to the

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Speaker 5: main drag. So that was better. Yesterday I had to

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Speaker 5: step on the gas, hit a reverse a couple of

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Speaker 5: times just to get over the turning lane because you

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Speaker 5: know how it is, Kevin, when the snow gets piled

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Speaker 5: up and you're driving on. Like I said, my trusty

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Speaker 5: Honda Civic doesn't always have the greatest traction when the

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Speaker 5: snow is piled up. But today that was not really

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Speaker 5: the case. Was able to get here a lot easier,

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Speaker 5: and looking at the other roads on the way in,

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Speaker 5: it is better, more cleaned off. And as usual, though

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Speaker 5: we will remind all of you take your time just

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Speaker 5: because it looks great.

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Speaker 4: Still drive slower than usual.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was, I don't know. As the day

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Speaker 1: moved along yesterday, I'm like, I think we're still good

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Speaker 1: for tonight in Bloomington, because by all accounts, Southern Indiana

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Speaker 1: got a worse than we did. And you know, again,

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Speaker 1: we wake up here on this Tuesday morning, we're still

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Speaker 1: good to go. It's a nine o'clock tip down in

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Speaker 1: Bloomington tonight. One of my favorite days of the year.

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Speaker 1: Frankly from a local sports standpoint, this ride, I think

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Speaker 1: So you'll burn a little bit of the midnight oil

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Speaker 1: tonight again nine o'clock down there. Four and a half

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Speaker 1: point favorites the boilers. One last thing I'll add just

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Speaker 1: on the morning commute, because Mark, I feel like we're

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Speaker 1: still closed learning galore or two hours delay today for

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Speaker 1: our delay. Okay, wow, you guys, I feel like are

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Speaker 1: a little bit of the anomaly with that. I feel

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Speaker 1: The intersections look a little Scott McLaughlin on Lap one

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Speaker 1: of the Indy five hundred, The intersections are a little spinny.

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Speaker 1: People are little you know, tires are spinning a little

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Speaker 1: bit of ice. So just fy on that. And I

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Speaker 1: would say for my normal two lane commute down, we're

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Speaker 1: a half it. So are you fully good on the highways? Mark?

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Speaker 1: Are we all the lanes are good to go?

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Speaker 3: I would say so. I mean I still wouldn't be

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Speaker 3: So I took a little bit different road than I

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Speaker 1: Dropping it a little lower than that sounds like you

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Speaker 3: The day, me and little John the east Side boy.

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Speaker 1: Like drop it like I thought you went snoop dough

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Speaker 1: a garage door issue for Jeff Reckord. He'll be back

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Speaker 1: with us coming up tomorrow, Rick Carlisle nine to thirty.

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Speaker 1: And when IU and produe pop up on the schedule.

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Speaker 1: You like to hear it from both sides. So the

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Speaker 1: voice of the Boilers, Rob Blackman going to join us

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Speaker 1: coming up at eight thirty. And John Herrick, who of

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Speaker 1: course you hear on the IU Radio network. He will

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Speaker 1: join us at nine. James, I just always look forward

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Speaker 5: Wait a second, are we buying the Jeff Rickord story.

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Speaker 5: Let's not gloss over this. When he called me and

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Speaker 5: told me what was going on, I did tell him,

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Speaker 4: But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, garage door issue. You know, I definitely had one recently. Now,

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Speaker 3: Your yours goes down by rickshaw, right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, correct. Yeah. If you could hear the sounds that

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Speaker 1: That what he told us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what he told us.

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Speaker 1: You sound highly skeptical.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, you know, weather gets a little funky,

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Speaker 1: Well, he acted like where's our leader. He acted like

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Speaker 1: the morning commute was a breeze yesterday. You know he

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Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, well in the eight to ten window. I mean,

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Speaker 1: That's why he's got Al to help him out there,

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Speaker 3: That's why Al's got the airplane hangar beams or whatever

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Speaker 1: You know, anytime for me, I you pretty a pop

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Speaker 1: Assembly Hall as the head coach of Purdue. And like

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Speaker 1: me doing the money sign right now. So I get that.

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Speaker 1: You know, the amount of Indiana players are certainly different.

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Speaker 1: Indiana really has none outside of transistently. But still, James,

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Speaker 1: I think you make a case both teams need it badly.

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Speaker 5: We got an emotional Kevin Bowen here because this game

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Speaker 5: I think this is an opportunity for this IU team

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Speaker 5: So it should be a very hostile type of game

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Speaker 5: and environment down there, Mackie and simple Hall, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 5: Simply Hall, I'm sorry, But to me, a lot of

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Speaker 5: it comes down to, you know, how much can you

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Speaker 5: of stands at the end, because like most of these matchups,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess you know, I say it matters

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Speaker 1: a lot to both teams. You know, for Indiana they

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Speaker 1: And I think back to last year's game, Perdue dominant

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Speaker 1: So we'll get you set all day long for that.

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Speaker 1: I do think defensively, how each of these teams guard

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Speaker 1: Perdue wants to play big with Trey Kaufman Ran and

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Speaker 1: you know, how much you know Indiana has a chance

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Speaker 5: As this real quick? What do you think of the

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Speaker 1: He played well, very well in the series last year.

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Speaker 1: when Purdue downsized, it was Miles Colvin, it was Cam Heidi.

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Speaker 4: This year, right, you know, explosive wing.

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Speaker 4: Just kind of waiting for like that signature of Trey

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Speaker 5: Haven't had that as of late. Sure, still very twnent

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Speaker 1: Couple of people here chiming down the text line sixty

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Speaker 1: nine south from Greenwood, clear and good to ghosts as

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Speaker 1: Jim Adam for sixty five in the south east side,

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Speaker 1: Sporadic lanes with snow and ice. Watch two people spin

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Speaker 1: it's still a bit of a dicey morning. Were you

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Speaker 1: guys fans of these snow Day Pacers afternoon basketball? Did

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Speaker 1: you did you like that?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 5: I figured it was kind of it kind of felt

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Speaker 5: and you know, like you always said, Kevin, we don't

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Speaker 5: have real jobs. So you come home, you turn the

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Speaker 3: Well, you can get some gentlemen. What is it called

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's what I've gathered because all of the high

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Speaker 3: Can you do for Rake? And uh tea and honey

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Speaker 1: Slashing indeed, all right, Rick Carlile, nine thirty, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: a little purdueing IU. Rob Blackman gonna join us coming

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Speaker 1: Radio Network at nine James Boyd snow Day Basketball yesterday.

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Speaker 1: For the Pacers, it was a tale of two halves

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Speaker 1: Well, if I've watched his ALLU Basketball player this year,

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Speaker 3: NBA All Star reserves will be announced on Sunday. No,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Stock will never be higher.

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Speaker 5: Proved himself to be a guy who can play on Sundays,

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Speaker 1: that I totally forgot that this play even existed, Sony,

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Speaker 1: can you describe this remark?

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Speaker 4: So he basically went up on the sideline, caught the

437
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Speaker 4: ball and got hit low and then flipped backwards and

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Speaker 4: still landed inbound while holding the ball.

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Speaker 1: The first body part that hit Mark was his head right.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, but like he didn't bobble the ball, caught it.

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Speaker 4: It's good.

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Speaker 1: It was a crazy acrobatic catch.

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Speaker 5: And I mean you got to be somewhat fearless to

444
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Speaker 5: even go up and try to get that because you

445
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Speaker 5: know if you go up that high, you're gonna get hit.

446
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Speaker 4: So he's a tough dude.

447
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Speaker 5: Then those types of catches will obviously help you when

448
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Speaker 5: you're sitting down next to the NFL GM or NFL

449
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Speaker 5: scout and you're saying, you know, why can I trust

450
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Speaker 5: you to play on Sundays?

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Speaker 4: We look at my tape?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll continue to say, baby Deebo Samuel Vibes I

453
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Speaker 1: get from him. You know, he made a couple of

454
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Speaker 1: plays in the National title game I thought were huge.

455
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Speaker 1: Obviously the Penn State catch speaks for itself. Well, well,

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Speaker 1: play some not Dan Bugler audio coming up, because I

457
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Speaker 1: know he was really high on him early on and

458
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Speaker 1: just in this day and Asian college football in particular,

459
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Speaker 1: staying four years through a coaching change. Yeah, how many

460
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Speaker 1: of those are we going to get?

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Speaker 4: It's rare.

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Speaker 5: I actually thought that a couple of guys at the

463
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Speaker 5: athletic they did a story on the guys that stayed,

464
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Speaker 5: and they weren't necessarily the jam you guys. They were

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Speaker 5: the I've been here at IU and I've kind of

466
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Speaker 5: gone through the old coaches out Signetti's I got to

467
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Speaker 5: prove myself all over again.

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Speaker 4: I thought that was a fun piece to kind of.

469
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Speaker 5: Detail how unique the team build was because it wasn't

470
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Speaker 5: all transfers. It wasn't all guys who stayed. But it's

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Speaker 5: cursing that he's credit he found the right blend of

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Speaker 5: players with the right character, because I think it's very

473
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Speaker 5: hard to sell that dream and to get a bunch

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Speaker 5: of young people to buy into it when you haven't

475
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Speaker 5: done it yet, and now if they have, it'll be

476
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Speaker 5: easier to build on that.

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Speaker 1: I think we'll go over who is staying, who's going

478
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Speaker 1: down there and Bloomington, certainly preview the big one tonight

479
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Speaker 1: in the eight one two, and also what if with

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Speaker 1: the Anapolis Colts as we look back on last season.

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Speaker 1: Reminder Rick Carlisle nine to thirty, Rob Blackman eight thirty, right,

482
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Speaker 1: Mark and nine o'clock John Herrick. I'll update you morning.

483
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Speaker 1: Commute wise, let's say probably slightly better for me. Mark

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Speaker 1: Dyton gave a B from the West.

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Speaker 3: The yeah in a sixty five South immaculate.

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Speaker 1: Those two fall in the same category. But still if

487
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Speaker 1: you can four to stay inside your house for at

488
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Speaker 1: least a chunk of the day, I would advise you

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Speaker 1: to do so. Good Tuesday morning to you, thanks for

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Speaker 1: spending with us. Right here, it's the fan nine o'clock

491
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Speaker 1: tonight in Bloomington. It is the Peacocks Special with John Fanta,

492
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Speaker 1: the high energy of John Fanta and Robbie Hummel going

493
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Speaker 1: to be on the call there. I do feel continue

494
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Speaker 1: to feel bad about obviously the weather situation impacting things

495
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Speaker 1: because you think about the crowd Saturday at that national

496
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Speaker 1: title celebration, and I assume the crowd will be impacted tonight.

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Speaker 4: I don't, oh yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Don't think you're getting seventeen thousand in there at nine o'clock.

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Speaker 5: No, not at all. But nevertheless it still should be

500
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Speaker 5: a good environment.

501
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Speaker 1: I would think, just a massive one for Indiana in

502
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Speaker 1: terms of trying to get something here on the resume.

503
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Speaker 1: For Purdue, they have lost two in a row. Now

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Speaker 1: you want to be glass half full. You've led by

505
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Speaker 1: what five and six points? I think of the media

506
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Speaker 1: time out, the final media time out, both these games.

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Speaker 1: And you know, with Braden Smith, your ability to close

508
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Speaker 1: the game usually I think is heavily in your favor.

509
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Speaker 1: But I can't wait. You know it weirdly, James, if

510
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Speaker 1: you were compare Indiana Preduye basketball programs over the last

511
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Speaker 1: ten years, it's not comparable at all. Right, it was

512
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Speaker 1: in a different stratosphere. But the one the wow, the

513
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Speaker 1: stats of the Mike Woodson eras he split against Matt Painter.

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Speaker 5: That is true because if you if I'm I'm mistaken,

515
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Speaker 5: didn't Jalenefino have like a.

516
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Speaker 1: Great game off in Mackie. This probably was a couple

517
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Speaker 1: of years ago that I was thinking, Jalaino when your

518
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Speaker 1: boy Wagler went off on Saturday. Now, Wagler was more

519
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Speaker 1: of like volleyball linea was like, watch me hit every

520
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Speaker 1: mid range jumper. Yeah, known to man? And do you

521
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Speaker 1: remember the Robert Fannasy game winner. I do remember that,

522
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Speaker 1: So I think that was maybe the first meeting.

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Speaker 4: That's such a weird like antidote about the Woodson era.

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Speaker 1: Right, last year, a huge second half down there in

525
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Speaker 1: Assembly Hall, and I think for the most part they

526
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Speaker 1: were pretty competitive in Mackie too. Remember Trey Kaufman ran

527
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Speaker 1: kind of had the the shot put like twelve foot

528
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Speaker 1: or to beat them. Yep, I think I was last year.

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Speaker 1: So you know four and a half so Vegas, which

530
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Speaker 1: to me seems very fair. You know, I'll continue to

531
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Speaker 1: stress you know how each team is going to guard

532
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Speaker 1: each other from a power forward standpoint, because Indiana, we

533
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Speaker 1: saw the wrinkle on Friday. They put Nick Dorn, the

534
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Speaker 1: transfer from Elon Battles some injuries, into the starting lineup

535
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Speaker 1: and Nick Dorn is a flat out shooter, I mean,

536
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Speaker 1: stone cold shooter. That now is hey, if you're gonna

537
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Speaker 1: go whatever, We've seen teams do it triangle in two

538
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Speaker 1: or whatever on Tucker de f Reason, Lamar Wilkerson. Now

539
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Speaker 1: we're gonna put another capable shooter out there. So you

540
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Speaker 1: know how Purdue counters and of course how the Indiana

541
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Speaker 1: guards Purdue. You know, the big question for Indiana here

542
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Speaker 1: in the Big Ten is can you hang with legit size?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Who's got that? So yeah, I'm always.

545
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Speaker 5: Says some of that too. You got to be able

546
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Speaker 5: to offset some of that size with the shooting.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys think Rake will be good with me

548
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Speaker 1: going peacocks stream writing shotgun. You think we'll go radio

549
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Speaker 1: on top of it?

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Speaker 3: Is he gonna let you connect the bluetooth so you

551
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Speaker 3: can have this this peacock sound.

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Speaker 1: I think, knowing Rake, he'll want to go, let's go

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Speaker 1: Rob Blackman first half Northern Indiana. Yeah, and then once

554
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Speaker 1: we hit you know, Kokomo, then we'll switch over to

555
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Speaker 1: Fish for the second half.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. A sportscaster himself, he's got to respect the greats.

557
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll just provide visual if he if he

558
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Speaker 1: needs it. You know, he's got to be ten and

559
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Speaker 1: two on the roadways, Greg, Greg saun I are annual trips.

560
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Speaker 1: My favorite day of the year outside of Christmas, some

561
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Speaker 1: of my kids births.

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Speaker 4: I was about to say, add on a few amendments there.

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Speaker 1: My wedding anniversary.

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Speaker 4: I'll say, you know again, maddieger Woods.

565
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Speaker 1: You know Tiger got in. Tiger won the Masters on

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Speaker 1: April fourteenth, We got engaged on April fourteenth. Well, one

567
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Speaker 1: year apart. You can make an argument which April fourteenth

568
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Speaker 1: mattered more.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna ask your son's silence tells me a lot.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm just trying to clear my throat here. You know,

571
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Speaker 1: our throats are kind of hanging on by a thread

572
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Speaker 1: here on this Tuesday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're struggling boys. I'm sorry if I sound a

574
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Speaker 5: little different, but.

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Speaker 1: We made it in Was it a Luther Vandross? Did

576
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Speaker 1: I see that in the youtub?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I don't know about Luther Vandross. I don't know if

579
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Speaker 4: I cou's saying that.

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 1: I do love a one Shining moment. Hey, by the way,

582
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Speaker 1: I've seen the Corus Football One Shining Moment's montage and

583
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Speaker 1: I've enjoyed the thing. Yeah, wow, I don't know that

584
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Speaker 1: was the thing. Yeah, I had to be in that

585
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Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, you know, IU was definitely featured very prominently.

586
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Speaker 1: We'll get something that Omar Cooper sound here in a

587
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Speaker 1: little bit. James. I'm always nervous when the college football,

588
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Speaker 1: you know whatever transfer portal dies down. I'm like, is

589
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Speaker 1: it safe to now look ahead to next year or

590
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Speaker 1: is it not? Like, you know, can guys still declaire

591
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Speaker 1: come back? But I think we're at this point so

592
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Speaker 1: for Indiana, they will lose the following and these are

593
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Speaker 1: just notable guys I jotted down obviously for Nanda Mendoza,

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Speaker 1: Kaylon Black and Roman Himy in the backfield, Omar Cooper Junior,

595
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Speaker 1: Riley Norikowski the big tight end thirty seven. Defensively not

596
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Speaker 1: as much, well, I should say, right, yes, Elija, thank you,

597
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Speaker 1: uh Mikl Kamara, Aiden Fisher, Dangelo Pons, Lewis Moore. So

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Speaker 1: you know, when you start to make a list of

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Speaker 1: the top whatever ten IU players from last year, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot. Now you bring back Charlie Becker, you bring

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Speaker 1: back I think three starting offensive linemen, maybe four, and

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Speaker 1: some of those guys that started a couple of years

603
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Speaker 1: defensive tackles, Tyree Tucker, Mario Landino. I think both those

604
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Speaker 1: guys are pretty effective, even though they might not get

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Speaker 1: the fan fair Isaiah Jones at linebacker, Jamari Sharp, who

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Speaker 1: we saw, of course make the game ceiling and interception

607
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Speaker 1: back there, Amari Ferrell as well. So you know, when

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Speaker 1: you start to make a list, boy, it's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And you know what's so unique about this IU team

611
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Speaker 5: is that, unlike in years past, listen it off all

612
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Speaker 5: those guys and I'm like, man, these guys are going

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Speaker 5: to be playing on Sundays. And I don't know how

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Speaker 5: many times we could look at an IU roster in

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Speaker 5: recent years and say they have ten definite draft picks,

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Speaker 5: and about half of those guys I would argue, Kevin

617
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Speaker 5: that you named might be Day one and Day two

618
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Speaker 5: picks those first three rounds. So from that perspective, I

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Speaker 5: think it's gonna be very hard to replace that level

620
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Speaker 5: of talent. I don't doubt that Kurtzy Natty will reload.

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Speaker 5: But also don't want to act like it's so easy

622
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Speaker 5: to replace NFL talent, because when you have NFL talent

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Speaker 5: in college, I think that changes a lot of what

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Speaker 5: you're able to do because you got guys that are

625
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Speaker 5: just better.

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Speaker 4: I mean Omar Cooper junior. How many times did we

627
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Speaker 4: look at a play that he made, Kevin and say, oh,

628
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Speaker 4: he's just better than the other guys.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah, And you know what, we talked so much

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Speaker 1: about the play the end zone against Penn State. You know,

631
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Speaker 1: they were backed up second and seventeen on that drive

632
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Speaker 1: and he gets it started. Yep. And a lot of it,

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Speaker 1: to your point, was just there was the first twenty

634
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Speaker 1: in the National Title last Monday, where you just throw

635
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Speaker 1: him a simple crosser and his athleticism, you know, makes

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Speaker 1: the play off of that. The the DiAngelo Ponds loss

637
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Speaker 1: I think Ponds and maybe the pick six against Oregon

638
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: helped in this cause. But I think fans fully like,

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Speaker 1: if we're gonna really be technical here, you can make

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Speaker 1: the case Ponds is better, more important to the team

641
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Speaker 1: than Freanana Mendoza, like Brian Haynes literally is like I

642
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Speaker 1: don't have to worry about one half of the field

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Speaker 1: with him. I mean that's a high high. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you think about college corners, there's so much volatility watching

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Speaker 1: college cornerbacks at Heller's Ton, watching NFL cornerback I.

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Speaker 5: Was gonna say a couple of them Wistay hads and

647
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Speaker 5: plays back in recent weeks in these playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, him leaving and again he technically

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Speaker 1: had another year of eligibility. I think that might be

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Speaker 1: you know, if you want to say the TCU quarterbacks

651
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Speaker 1: can't come in and play at a high level, or

652
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetic quarterbacks just often do you know, losing Ponds

653
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: and you know, I go back to the Iowa game.

654
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: He didn't play in that Iowa game. That's a game

655
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: Indiana easily could have lost. Yeah, without him, you know

656
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: in the lineup there I do have. I don't know

657
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: if it's hot take. Ye, I guess anything's hot in

658
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: this weather right now, what it is outside? But can

659
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: I go here one more? As we look back on

660
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: last week's game, the most important play in that game

661
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: was a block punt, not the fourth and five Mendoza.

662
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Speaker 4: Oh unquestionable, Okay, miserable play I think is the run

663
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 4: because so it's not very hot taking. No, I don't

664
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Speaker 4: think so you don't win that.

665
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Speaker 5: I don't think you were in a position to even

666
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 5: have that fourth and five opportunity to basically not seal

667
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 5: the win but give yourself a very good chance of

668
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 5: winning if that block punt doesn't happen.

669
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was looking back on that the other day,

670
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: and I believe to that point, I don't think Mendoza

671
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Speaker 1: had completed a pass in the second half, and the

672
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: IU I think it was seventeen fourteen score and the

673
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: IU offense was just kind of stuck in one of

674
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: those muddy situations you're not used to. Yeah, Miami's pastors

675
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: started to go or remember on that opening drive of

676
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: the second half, Miami had two sacks. The driver was

677
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: kept alive by the face mask, right, so you know

678
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: that Miami defense I think was starting to assert itself

679
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: a little bit more there, and just the nature of

680
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: the block punt too. It's not like you were trying

681
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: to sell out and block the punt, you know. Again,

682
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: you had your defense out there thinking it was a

683
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: fourth and one and they might still you know, go

684
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: for it there malc I Toni had just been tackled

685
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: short of the sticks. Yeah, memorable. You're right, James. Definitely

686
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: the Mendoza play and honestly the call to go for it,

687
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: you know, that was not I think an automatic go

688
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: situation there and just the effort involved on it. But

689
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: to me, like the bigger magnitude play. You didn't win

690
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: the game there, but obviously it helped you. I think

691
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: it was that block punt.

692
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 5: And it's funny to look back at that play and

693
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 5: really a couple of different players through out that college

694
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 5: football playoff really the season that defined the Seas because

695
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 5: the thing about and I was reading about this, Kevin,

696
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 5: and I don't know how many are you fans feel

697
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 5: like this, but is there any sense of like a

698
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 5: what now feeling? Because pretty much, I would say maybe

699
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 5: from like the Illinois game on every single moment after

700
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 5: that was like the biggest game for IU or that's

701
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 5: the biggest moment or that's the biggest play, And now

702
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 5: that you're atop the mountain, yes you want to do

703
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 5: it again, but I don't know if you're ever be

704
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 5: able to experience it in this way again, because what else?

705
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean?

706
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 4: You slayed every dragon, and you did it in so

707
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 4: many different ways. You had the iconic throws, you had

708
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 4: the iconic catches, you had the iconic like you said,

709
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 4: block punt, you got to run from Mendoza, which will

710
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 4: be in every Disney movie from here on out. What

711
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 4: else is there left to do?

712
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 5: I feel like this is kind of like the Wilson's

713
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 5: moment in Fresh Prince when he moves out of the

714
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 5: mansion and he looks around the room ors something in there.

715
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 4: It's like, well, what else do I have to do?

716
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: Now?

717
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 4: I'm on this mountaintop by myself, which is a good feeling,

718
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 4: but it's unique to me because I wonder how many

719
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 4: IU fans are like, Man, I'm so glad I got

720
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 4: to experience this, but there's a part of me it's

721
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 4: kind of watching your favorite show for the first time,

722
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: and it's like I can watch it again, but I

723
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 4: can't experience it in the same way again, Well they don't.

724
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: They say there's nothing like your first Yeah. I mean

725
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: it's a good problem to have, don't get me wrong.

726
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 4: But I think one.

727
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: New aspect to next year will be this, James. They

728
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: will get the and nothing against your fighting alone, but

729
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: against your fighting Alini. They're about to get the major

730
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: Marquee home game finally with Ohio State coming there. Yeah,

731
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: for sure, like they're gonna get I assume.

732
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 5: That's what I mean, because before that was the Marquee

733
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 5: game Illinois, right, Yana.

734
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Speaker 1: But in fairness, you know, year one, what do you

735
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: do with maybe Washington or yah, Michigan late in the

736
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: year and that wasn't the.

737
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 4: Same That doesn't hold a camera what you're talking about?

738
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: Right? So that will be And that's you know, one

739
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: thing if I can commend college football on anything right now,

740
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: I love that the playoffs staying is twelve teams. And

741
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: this is coming from someone that my team would have

742
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: benefited from sixteen obviously, but I want the regular season

743
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: to mean something to me. I love the twelve team

744
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: format sticking with it for another year. I'm not holding

745
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: my breath. It sounds like the Big Ten wants to

746
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: go to twenty four at some point, which I think

747
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: is just a joke. But I like that we're staying

748
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: at twelve. One thing I do hate about next year,

749
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: I guess two things I want to change with the

750
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: college football playoff. I like we're keating at twelve, but

751
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: two things I want to change. Okay, guys, the National

752
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: Championship game next year. Oh, don't get me started. January

753
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: twenty fifth. Yeah, January twenty fifth. What are we doing?

754
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: That is January twenty fifth, two months after you later

755
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 1: year ends?

756
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, and this year was two days ago. Could you

757
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 5: imagine if the National Championship Game was played two days ago?

758
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: We need to bump everything up. Schedule wise, we get

759
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: in those dull drums of week one, two three of December. Yeah,

760
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,479
Speaker 1: there's nothing there. We need to bump things up. College

761
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: football playoff wise, that's one and then two. I like

762
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: twelve teams. I'm good with the five versus twelve format

763
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: on opening weekend. The quarterfinal games need to be on campus.

764
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: The fan bases of Indiana, the fan bases of Ohio State,

765
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: the fan bases of Georgia and Texas Tech, they all

766
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: deserved a home game to me. One, two, three, and

767
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: four seed get a home game. I get that for

768
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: some reason, the Bulls just run so much of the

769
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: college football system. And I get that, you know, Indiana

770
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: playing with the Rose Bowl was really cool for so

771
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: many people. I think it would be a lot cooler

772
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: if you got sixty thousand in there, people that actually

773
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: go to the games on a you know, weekend week

774
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: out basis. Yeah, I guess you could enter your eyu

775
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: joke here, but nonetheless, give us the home games in

776
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: the quarterfinal round and then you can go neutral. You

777
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: can then then you can rotate semifinals and finals. You

778
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: can rotate among the Bulls.

779
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 5: So my question for you two is how big is

780
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 5: too big when it comes to the college football playoff expansion.

781
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 5: I don't because I think twelve is a sweet spot

782
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 5: for me because at some point I do think about

783
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 5: attrition and injury. So if you keep expanding the playoff

784
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 5: and you keep adding weeks to the postseason, I mean,

785
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 5: are we really gonna have.

786
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 7: What, uh.

787
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 4: A seventeen win team look? Or is that even how

788
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 4: we'll work. I'm not sure if.

789
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: We go to sixteen, and sure if we go to

790
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: twenty four, James, we're getting eight and four teams in

791
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: the playoff. We're gonna get SEC teams to seven and five,

792
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: glamoring for a playoffs.

793
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 5: To hear that conversation give me a headache, right, I mean,

794
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 5: am I wrong? You're not wrong, But that's why I'm like,

795
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 5: and I get it. Money rules the world, you know,

796
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 5: greed is everything. So we'll probably go to sixteen teams,

797
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 5: but like, think about eight and at one point is

798
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 5: twelve and twelve to me is a sweet spot.

799
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: So if you if you go eight and four and

800
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: you have a three game non conference, assume your three

801
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: non conference games are pasties. Okay, Okay, so you're three

802
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: and no. Now you go into your Big Ten slate.

803
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: Let's just use that. And if you go five and

804
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: four in the Big Ten, you feel like you've done

805
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: enough five and four, that's crazy. Like to me, the

806
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 1: regular season has got to matter at some level.

807
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

808
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: And that's where I think twelve is. I mean, this year,

809
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: who do we debate? We debated ten and two Notre Dame,

810
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: ten and two Miami and what nine and three Alabama? Yeah,

811
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: that's where the debate came back to. And that to

812
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: me is a fine, healthy debate. To round it out.

813
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: I don't I don't need I mean, can you imagine

814
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: we did twenty four guys, they'd be crowning the national

815
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: champion on Saint Patrick's Day.

816
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

817
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 5: At that point, I'm just wondering, again, what are we

818
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 5: actually doing to make the sport better versus make the sport.

819
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 4: More money, which I mean one in the same right.

820
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 3: Just segue from the National Championship and in the first

821
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 3: round of the March Madness Tournament.

822
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: At that point, sure, you might as well have the

823
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: NFL draft the next day.

824
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 4: I was going to say, like, the NFL playoffs, by

825
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 4: the way, will still be going on, So.

826
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: Do it like the WNBA mark you know, the final

827
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: four ends and boom, Kaitlyn Clark gets drafted the next day.

828
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: By the way, next year's Super Bowl takes place on

829
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 3: Valentine's Day, So get out ahead of your sales fellows,

830
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: and have that conversation already.

831
00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: Is it really yeah?

832
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: Oh boy, Sunday February fourteenth.

833
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: Well, when the Colts are in it, Leve will be

834
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: in the air. I had totally forgotten that the Colts

835
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 1: interviewed Mike Vrabel for their head coaching job in twenty eighteen.

836
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: James that was well before you were on the beat, right.

837
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 5: Yes, twenty eighteen, I was graduating college, trying to get

838
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 5: a job in this industry.

839
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: So twenty eighteen the Colts hired Josh McDaniels right for

840
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: six hours, which.

841
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 5: By the way, you have covered some wild things, my friend,

842
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 5: I forgot that even happened.

843
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll never forget left you at the altar. Lord,

844
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: I'll never forget being at a pastry. And this is

845
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: back when I covered the pacers. I covered the basers

846
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: around a year or so, and they it was announced

847
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: that they had interviewed Matt Rule. And that was back

848
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: when the Rule was at Baylor. So if I remember correctly,

849
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: and somebody can fill me in on this, Mark when

850
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: you have Zach Keifron on some point this week, because

851
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: I know he he's got a lot right now on

852
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: his plate, I guess I'll let Zach share that. But he,

853
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: I believe would recall this pretty well. I want to say,

854
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: Matt Naggy, does that sound right? Mark twenty eighteen would

855
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 1: have been yep, your boy, Matt Naggy, and then Vrabel,

856
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: McDaniels and Matt Rule. I think those were the main

857
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: four and they of course, hired McDaniels, and then Vrabel

858
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: ended up getting this was still in Vrabel. This is

859
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: what I think makes coaching searches such a crapshoot. James

860
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: Rabel at that point, I think, was only a one

861
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: year defensive coordinator in Houston and they were awful on

862
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: defense in that one year, and yet Tennessee hired him

863
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: that cycle. So a few weeks after the Colts interviewed,

864
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: Tennessee hired him, and that was after Tennessee had won

865
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: a road playoff game. Think about that, you fire and

866
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: again I guess Sean McDermott falls into this category, but

867
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: you fire your coach. Mike Malarkey is who it was

868
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: at the time. They go to Arrowhead, they beat Kansas

869
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: City when a road playoff game, they fire him, and

870
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: they hire Mike Frable, a man with one year of

871
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: coordinating experience, and yet Rabel turns out to be hell

872
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: to hire. Now again, why they fired him is beyond me,

873
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: but like it is wild when I look back at

874
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen search and then what happened after McDaniels,

875
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: Rabel was a part of one of the four. And

876
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: then remember when McDaniels leads him at the altar. They

877
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 1: ended up with three candidates after that, Frank Reich, Leslie Frasier,

878
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: and Dan Campbell. So, whether it's Dan Campbell, whether it's

879
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel, you want to talk about different culture and

880
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: what we've seen over there on West fifty sixth Street

881
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: for the last seven years or so.

882
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 5: You make very good points, my friend, very good points,

883
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 5: even looking at where they were a few years ago.

884
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 5: I had to look this up because of the Philip

885
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 5: Rivers interview with the Bills, and you all know how

886
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 5: I feel about that waste of time. But anyways, I

887
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 5: had to go back and remember that the Colts actually

888
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 5: gave Jeff Saturday a legitimate interview for the permanent head

889
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 5: coaching job before they ultimately hired Change Stikeen, who I

890
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 5: will say, as much as I have criticized the operation

891
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 5: over on West fifty sixth Street, I think that Shane

892
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 5: to a degree has kind of been looked at as underrated,

893
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 5: at least in my opinion. I have criticized his like

894
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 5: leader of men style, which I don't know if that's

895
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 5: you know, more of a cliche than anything. But there's

896
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 5: times where I feel like being the front facing guy

897
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 5: for the job. He hasn't always stepped up to the

898
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 5: plate as he should, but looking at what he's done

899
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 5: with every season of his tenure, being with multiple quarterbacks

900
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 5: due to injury, I think that he's in a better

901
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,959
Speaker 5: standing league wide than the GM.

902
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 4: Above him, being Chris Ballard.

903
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

904
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: Again, if we're handing out individual letter grades to Ballard

905
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: and Psichen, they would not be the same. Stiching would

906
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: certainly have a better grade than Ballad. But James, I

907
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: really struggle with seven to twenty two against teams above

908
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: five hundred, and I really struggle with two and ten

909
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: against the Jaguars and the Texans. I figure you out, yep,

910
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: and I don't. I. You know, I kind of where

911
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: I settled at the end of last season, and probably

912
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: the end of the season was I think Ballard definitely

913
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 1: deserves to go. I don't have the same conviction on Stiching.

914
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: The only reason I would have that conviction is because

915
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: I think gms and head coaches should be tied at

916
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: the hip, right, Okay, which again is kind of to me.

917
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: It's a little like it's part of the business, yes,

918
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: but if we're going to individually evaluate it, it's kind

919
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: of funny. I just posted on our website to do this.

920
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: Every year, I evaluate the GM and the head coach

921
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: two separate articles, just to kind of lay lay it

922
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: out of like, Okay, yes, I think they should be

923
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: tied at the hip. That's how I would, you know,

924
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: operate in the NFL. But I also think their jobs

925
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: are different in many many ways here. So I actually

926
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: just posted the ballad one today, you know, wins and losses,

927
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: kind of looking at some of that stuff. By the way,

928
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: I started scrolling through mock drafts, so we'll get to

929
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: Mark Dyton. I got to know here coming up in

930
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: the eight o'clock hour. I looked at Daniel Jeremiah's mock

931
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: draft yesterday. A couple things stood out. The Chiefs at

932
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: number nine took Ruben Bain. I did see that in

933
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: his mono draft. I'm like it hit me as I

934
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: started scrolling. I'm like, wait a minute, you're telling me

935
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: that Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson are all

936
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: about to get top fifteen picks. I mean, I'm not

937
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: saying all three are obviously going to hit right away,

938
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: but damn.

939
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 3: The mock draft I Saws had the Chiefs taken. Jeremiah

940
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: love that he went Saints.

941
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: In Jeremiah who was speaking of Jeremiah and Daniel Jeremiah's

942
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: so I think he went one higher. But yeah, Mark,

943
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: I have seen that as well. Interesting how you think

944
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: about that? Mahomes at nine, Burrow at ten, lamar Ja fourteen.

945
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 5: Question though, how much fear does the Bengals put in

946
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 5: people these days? I know, but there's been in a

947
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 5: couple of years now and their defense is always atrocious.

948
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, like all three of those are gonna, you know,

949
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: hit and you know, I wouldn't be very clear on that.

950
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: But you know, again, as much as people in the

951
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: cult to bubble might say, hey, you know, we just

952
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: got to be healthy for the second half of the season,

953
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: there's some other teams out there that are saying that

954
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: exact thing, and they have the Bengals and they have

955
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: first round pick, you know, available to him. By the way,

956
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,479
Speaker 1: I saw Dylan Deneman, the Westfield safety transfer from Purdue

957
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: to Oregon. Daniel Jeremiah had him going Mark to your

958
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: Bears at twenty five. I didn't know, I mean, I

959
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: kne Dylan Deemon was ANFL draft prospect. I didn't know

960
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: he was talking about on day one.

961
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 3: Interesting, you guys need a safety potentially, Uh, Kevin Bayern

962
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 3: they hope to bring back, but he's a free agent

963
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 3: and probably we'll get some money. C. J. Gardner Johnson

964
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: also a free agent, and Jakwan Brisker is also so

965
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: they they could bring a couple guys back or they

966
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 3: get up some knee there.

967
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 4: Can I interest you in nit Cross?

968
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 3: No, No, we'd like to. Actually, I think the Bears

969
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 3: would like to do a return to center on dioa

970
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 3: dango if we're talking about returns from colony.

971
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard, didn't he? Yeah? Did he? Terror's Achilles?

972
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: Uh huh again Yeah, same one.

973
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 3: I think it's the other one.

974
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: Oh jeez, Yeah, that's horrific.

975
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: He was not doing anything.

976
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: I remember before the paycheck that was kind of like

977
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 1: midway through the season there, Okay, eight o'clock hour, we'll

978
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: get to first off, Rob Blackman and join us. Eight

979
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: thirty will continue to talk IU and Purdue from down

980
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: there and Bloomton and I do want to get that

981
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: Dane Briugler sound, you know his He was kind of

982
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: on this early with the Omar Cooper Junior before playoff

983
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: run before Penn State where could the Ellen product go

984
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: when it comes to the draft? Is he officially declared yesterday?

985
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: Mark dykedon, you used the word immaculate to describe your

986
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: I sixty five commute in this morning. Is that correct? Yes?

987
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: From what I was expecting to what I received, I

988
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: would say that was immaculate because I was expecting unable

989
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: to see any lines or anything like that.

990
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 2: No.

991
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: No, you could see road markings. You could see like

992
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 3: you can make out lanes. I would say probably two

993
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 3: and a half lanes out of the three were actively

994
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 3: well done.

995
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I am used to like day two

996
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: post snowstorm, the commute being a breeze yea like in

997
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: recent years it's like, okay, day one, you're kind of

998
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: all right, a little unsure about it. What's it going

999
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: to look like? Add whatever ten minutes to my morning

1000
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: commute in today? I would only say it was like

1001
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: slightly better. I don't think it was like overwhelmingly better.

1002
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: Again my lanes and I'm less highway. I'm still more

1003
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: city streets than Mark. I would say the lanes are

1004
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: still if you're used to the two lane road, you

1005
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: ain't getting it. You're getting a nice one and maybe

1006
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: one and a half and again the intersections. It looks

1007
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: a little Scott McLaughlin Lap one in the night five hundred.

1008
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: It's a little spinny for some people out there, So

1009
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: fy on that, And I guess I see why we

1010
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: are still largely e learning.

1011
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, across all these weathers, advisories and stuff like that.

1012
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 5: Take your time, people.

1013
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: Are we essential?

1014
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 4: Yes, so our P one listeners.

1015
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 7: Yes.

1016
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 1: I mean that's like the biggest compliment we've ever gotten.

1017
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's kind of how I felt during the COVID

1018
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 5: times where my mom works in insurance, my sister works

1019
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 5: at a bank, and I was a sports reporter, and

1020
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,959
Speaker 5: I was considered essential with them. That was pretty funny.

1021
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 5: My dad was like working at a water pump company,

1022
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 5: so like he needs to go to work. People can

1023
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 5: have like the really to flush a toilet during the

1024
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 5: storm or something. And here's James like, oh, yeah, I

1025
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 5: got to carry my note bed into this big high

1026
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 5: school game.

1027
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: So doctors and nurses at the stop, let you give

1028
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 3: him a little head nod like me too, brother, Yeah,

1029
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 3: me two, sister.

1030
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, all I have in my trunk is like we

1031
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 4: are the same.

1032
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: Referee holds up his recorder triple a batteries and his

1033
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: hat that says press on it.

1034
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly what those are the days?

1035
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: What's our boy? Rob Low didn't have the NFL hat on?

1036
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 3: I got a real scoop for you.

1037
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and James has got press hat on. All right,

1038
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: eight o'clock hour coming up again. Rob Blackman got to

1039
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: join us at eight thirty. More on the Omar Cooper

1040
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: Junior Declaration to the Draft, More on the Big One

1041
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: tonight in Bloomington, and we'll tap into Mark Dton's.

1042
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 8: I gotta know the rivalry is back on.

1043
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 9: As you were listening to the Van Morning Show on

1044
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 9: Sports Radio ninety three to five and one oh seven, fan.

1045
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: Mark just spilled scolding hot tea on my right hand. Boy.

1046
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 3: I was like, where'd they go? They disappeared as a

1047
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 3: short break. I was like, I'm gonna have to take

1048
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 3: producing in on air hosting for a minute.

1049
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just ramming. I can just see it just

1050
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: reddening up right now.

1051
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 3: That is you're on the struggle bus this morning.

1052
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are fighting. We're scratching clawn to ten o'clock here.

1053
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 4: It took me a while to blow of my nose.

1054
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: Did you hear me?

1055
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 2: James?

1056
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: I said, I just spilled hot tea all over my

1057
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: right hand.

1058
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 4: Oh lord, I do that.

1059
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: I won't be typing for the next break or two.

1060
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: Shout out to Kenny. If I was sitting in this

1061
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 1: traffic on four sixty five without the fan, I'd be cussing.

1062
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: You guys are essential. Look at that boom.

1063
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: Respect Appreciate it, Kenny.

1064
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: I'm updating the LinkedIn right now, like I'm Fernando Mendoza.

1065
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: Slide that over to the government if they question while

1066
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: we're in here on this uh Tuesday morning tave travels

1067
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: everybody out there again a little bit better, but I

1068
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't say overwhelming better on the morning commute.

1069
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 4: Do you think we would actually get questioned? Like because

1070
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 4: we get up pretty early, you think have you ever

1071
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 4: have you ever had that experience? We're like, hey, wait

1072
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 4: a second, you look like you ain't really doing no

1073
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 4: real work here.

1074
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: I have not. You know, I'd like to think there

1075
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: are bigger problems to maybe ten to two out there

1076
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: on the street. I don't even know what.

1077
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 4: More response would be.

1078
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 5: You'd be like, oh, yeah, you know, I got this

1079
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 5: radio thing I gotta do, and you know it seems

1080
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Speaker 5: to be kind of important.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, wouldn't that be great if you got the

1082
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,479
Speaker 1: cop that's like, oh yeah, listen to you guys every morning,

1083
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: that'd be great.

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00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 4: That would be pretty great.

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Speaker 1: Again, we'll continue to preview tonight. It is in Bloomington,

1086
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: Indiana and Purdue Rick Carlisle nine to thirty this morning.

1087
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: So Pacers back from their five game road trip. They

1088
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: got the little snow Day game yesterday, Tale two halves.

1089
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: Good to see Benedict Matheren back. And now we'll continue

1090
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: to monitor trade deadline coming up a week from Thursday.

1091
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: Here the Pacers make trades. When you were on the beat,

1092
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: was it was it the Halliburton, Yeah, it was the

1093
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: Halliburn trade.

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00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 5: I remember being in Atlanta and going to shoot around

1095
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 5: and Demonstra's Bonus was a part.

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Speaker 1: Of the team. Was that the day of the deadline?

1097
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 5: I can't remember, but I do believe it was in February,

1098
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 5: so it wasn't still January and it was very close

1099
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 5: to the deadline, and yeah, that changed everything. It was

1100
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 5: crazy because they made the trade and they ended up

1101
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 5: only having like maybe eight players available for the game.

1102
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 5: And I remember going to that game and it's probably

1103
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 5: the one time in my career covering a basketball game

1104
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 5: where the game was as meaningless as it was.

1105
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't just a holiday in that trade, Yeah, correctly.

1106
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 5: Because like no one cared about the outcome of the game.

1107
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 5: Every question after the game was about Halliburton. Even before

1108
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 5: the game, we couldn't get Rick Carl out to talk

1109
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 5: about it because the trade wasn't official yet. And then

1110
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 5: when we came official after the game, that was the

1111
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 5: story angle. But yeah, if looking back at it, that

1112
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 5: was I believe early twenty twenty two.

1113
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 3: It was the day before the deadline.

1114
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that changed this director of the franchise, and

1115
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 5: obviously you got a finals run out of it.

1116
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: I got into a little bit of a rabbit hole yesterday.

1117
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: I think we all sit here and say, the Pacers

1118
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: need a center, right, Yes, sure, I've often said this.

1119
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: I feel like finding a center is a little bit

1120
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: like finding a running back in the NFL. Okay, if

1121
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: you start scrolling through the league's leading rushers, you don't

1122
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,479
Speaker 1: necessarily see eighth overall pick, fifteenth overall pick, twenty second

1123
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: overall pick. You know, Jonathan Taylor, arguably the best running

1124
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: back in the league, was a second round pick, right,

1125
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: And like towards the middle of the second round and center. Yes,

1126
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: you have Webin Yama, you have Karl Anthony Towns. But

1127
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: I went through yesterday and just did the top fifteen

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00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: centers in the league, and if you look at where

1129
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: they were drafted, I only counted four the fifteen in

1130
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: the lottery and a lot of them middle round one,

1131
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: several even in the second round. Jokic, of course, is

1132
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: the poster child of it, and that's a dream. But

1133
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: like you know, he's one of the better centers right

1134
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: now in the league. And when I say better, I

1135
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: say top fifteen is clear. Where as crazy as that

1136
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: sounds to some people, yeah, he is.

1137
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 4: And he was you know, if the Pacers had him

1138
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 4: right now, they've cooking with some gas.

1139
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: And he was like fifteenth overall. So if you look

1140
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: at it again, you have your Karl Anthony Towns, you

1141
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: have your Web and Yama. You know, Alex Sar, the

1142
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: second pick last year, has had a really nice starting

1143
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: day his NBA career right Anthony day. I don't think

1144
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: he fell into the category because he's not healthy right now.

1145
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: But James, when you look at it, it's a lot

1146
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: there in the middle too. Late, even the early parts

1147
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: of the second round. Now, I don't I don't know

1148
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: what to do with that evidence, to be honest with you,

1149
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: because I think we sit here and more like, well,

1150
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: if you have the wings that you if you look

1151
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: at the draft coming up, the top five picks look

1152
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: to be in the two, three four range in terms

1153
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: of their positions right now. Yeah, and then to that

1154
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 1: they look to be shout out to Cluster Truck. I believe, Hey, yay,

1155
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: you know, I believe they will be making a stop

1156
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: here on this Tuesday morning. Belive Cluster Truck's open. A

1157
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: big fan the.

1158
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 4: Evan Cheryl best million men in Indiana, I am a

1159
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 4: big fan.

1160
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: And that is also the promo code hashtag big fan

1161
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: there for five dollars off your order. If you look

1162
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: at center right now, it makes some sense to say, well,

1163
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: go get the center by trading a wing and then

1164
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: replenish the wing come June when the draft rolls around

1165
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: and you have a top five pick. But I guess

1166
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: centers just seem like a diamond dozen man. I mean, hell,

1167
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: look at the Pacers right now they're playing. You could

1168
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: make the case the Pacers are playing some of their

1169
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: better basketball of the year. I know that sounds weird

1170
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: to say, but if you look at it, they've had

1171
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: leads like in the second halves and fourth quarters of

1172
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: all these games that they're still losing, and yet they're

1173
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: doing it like without a center. Did you know the

1174
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: starting lineup yesterday Walker and Furfy joining Pascal Siah I'll

1175
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: come in the front court like we are long gone

1176
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: debating Isaiah Jackson and Jay Huff. So part of me

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00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: is like, well, Kevin, that means that their center position

1178
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: sucks that bad. It also means, do you really need

1179
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 1: one for eighty two nights out of the year. Didn't

1180
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 1: we get to sometimes in the playoffs? James or Obi

1181
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: topping is the small ball five? Is their best lineup? Yeah?

1182
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 4: I think it's an interesting problem.

1183
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 5: Or the Pacers because you don't have the Tyres haliburtnon

1184
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 5: effect out there right now. Because I do think he

1185
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 5: has the ability to make some of these lineups work

1186
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 5: because of the way he plays, and he has the

1187
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 5: ability to enhance and elevate other centers because of the

1188
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 5: way he plays and being unselfish. If you're a rim

1189
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 5: running big, he'll get you a couple layups and dunks.

1190
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 5: So you know, how much do you believe you're a center,

1191
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 5: position is predicated on you having a dynamic point guard,

1192
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 5: one of the best point guards, if not the best

1193
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 5: pure point guard in the NBA when he's healthy.

1194
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 4: So moving forward, I'm very.

1195
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 5: Curious to see how they kind of build this roster

1196
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 5: out because Halliburton affects everybody, and that's what honestly was

1197
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 5: on a different tangent. I think that's what people kind

1198
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 5: of overlook when it comes to the way the Pacers play.

1199
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 5: It's like, oh man, Pacers made it to the finals.

1200
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 5: Other teams can do this too and play un selfish

1201
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 5: and run and gun like nah, not when you don't

1202
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 5: have that player at the center of it. So does

1203
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 5: he the offset maybe some of your quote unquote need

1204
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 5: for a certain type of big man. I think that's

1205
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 5: why Miles Turner worked so well with him, because all

1206
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 5: he had to do was block shots, run the floor,

1207
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 5: med a couple threes, which he still has a very

1208
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 5: unique skill set as it is. I mean, I don't

1209
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 5: want act like that's every center around, but if you

1210
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 5: can find somebody kind of like that, did they look

1211
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 5: different with Haliburton?

1212
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: Speaking of the draft, we saw him Bloomington yesterday the

1213
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: news Omar Cooper Junior officially declaring for the NFL Draft,

1214
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: So he joins the likes of Danslow Ponds and Elijah

1215
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: Sarrat and Mikl Kamara and Aiden Fisher from Ana Mendoza.

1216
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: Of course, many of these Hoosiers draft down. We had

1217
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler on mark. This is during the Colts.

1218
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 3: Bye week right yes, back in November, so I believe.

1219
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: This was just before the Penn State game and Dane Bugler,

1220
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: NFL draft analysts for the Athletic, touched on the draft

1221
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: status then again pre playoff, pre pen and State, not

1222
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: only for Omar Cooper Junior, but also Elijah Sarratt.

1223
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 10: Omar Cooper Junior has been a lot of fun to

1224
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 10: watch because he's the ball skills draft standard and then

1225
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 10: his run after catchability really stands out. So you want

1226
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 10: to line him up in the slot, line him up outside.

1227
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 10: You know, he's a player that I think he's put

1228
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 10: himself on the top one hundred conversation and then Elijah's Arod.

1229
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,439
Speaker 10: I mean, he came in to this season as a

1230
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 10: fourth or fifth round pick, that's where the grades were

1231
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 10: from NFL teams, and he's only helped himself. You know,

1232
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 10: six to two and ten pounds, probably going to run

1233
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 10: the four to fourth somewhere. He's so good with the

1234
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 10: chemistry with Mendoza on those back shoulder throws. You know,

1235
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 10: the ball skills are there. He is more explosive than

1236
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 10: you think, Like he kind of looks like a possession receiver,

1237
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 10: but he has got more explosion.

1238
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: Than I think.

1239
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,959
Speaker 10: You know, you just you expect going into the tape.

1240
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 10: And so he definitely has a basketball background, but he

1241
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 10: is an NFL athlete as well, and so I love

1242
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 10: the story with him. Kind of not a type of

1243
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 10: guy you want to bet against. And so I think

1244
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 10: those types of players just gravitate towards coach Signetti, and

1245
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 10: you really see that play out on game day. And

1246
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 10: so I'm you know, I'm selfishly hoping to see Ohio

1247
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 10: State get over the hump against Michigan, just so we

1248
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 10: make sure we get that Indiana Ohio State matchup in

1249
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 10: the Big Ten championship game, just to see how these

1250
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 10: two teams will match up. Seeing Mendoza and these receivers

1251
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 10: up against a defense the caliber of Ohio State and

1252
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 10: then a really good Indiana defense, to see how they

1253
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 10: can hold up against a really explosive offense, Aiden Fisher

1254
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 10: where he's done, a linebacker, Michael Kamara the defensive end

1255
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 10: for the Hoosiers. These guys are all draft picks, and

1256
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 10: so I think it's been fifty years since Indiana has

1257
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 10: had more than four draft picks in a single year.

1258
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 10: But I think the way that the season is going,

1259
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 10: that's going to happen this year or it's going to

1260
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 10: happen in April.

1261
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly is. Again, that was Dan Brueger back

1262
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: of us in mid November, just to put a little

1263
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: context around at top one hundred pick, which you labeled

1264
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: for Cooper would be top three round. I would argue

1265
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: he has only improved his stock since then. Again, you

1266
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: had the Penn State game. You know, he obviously made

1267
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: some plays during that playoff run. So less than a

1268
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: month away from the NFL combine here in town, and

1269
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: it will be a lot of Eyu flavor with that.

1270
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: All right, So Rob Blackman eight thirty, John Herrick talking

1271
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: eye you Purdue coming up tonight nine o'clock, Rick Carlisle

1272
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: nine to thirty. But let's get into the brain of

1273
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: Mark Dykon.

1274
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 9: He's got questions.

1275
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: How about a game they have got answers.

1276
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 3: I'm more of a you know, a corn hoole man myself.

1277
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 6: Sports music, movies, what high.

1278
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: Fashions, bet hants so hot right now and everything in between.

1279
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 9: You have seen a foot with four toes each time

1280
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 9: to get a glimpse into the mind of Mark Dydon.

1281
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 3: Stop it, you're scaring me each time.

1282
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: For I gotta know. Okay, you do punk, I wrote

1283
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: a good, clean fight.

1284
00:59:54,080 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: Let's get it on, all right, boys, we're talking NFL,

1285
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 3: so let's stay with the NFL. We've talked about the

1286
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 3: to do list for Chris Ballard and company for the

1287
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 3: Colts and what positions they need to address in the offseason.

1288
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 3: What position or positions do you feel need the least

1289
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 3: upgrades you had in the twenty twenty sixties, Like I

1290
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 3: feel comfortable at this position.

1291
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: Kicker.

1292
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 3: And that's a real response too. You got two guys

1293
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 3: there that can do a good answer.

1294
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: I'm really serious. I promise it won't cop out and

1295
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: just say kicker. But like, seriously, right, I guess you

1296
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: hope Spencer Schrader returns to full health. But Blake Groopy

1297
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: looked really good, and I believe Blake Groofy's one of

1298
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: those exclusive rights free agents James, which means the Colt's

1299
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: just throwing offer at him and he has to come back.

1300
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: Little kicking competition, Sure, why not, I'll go run last

1301
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: one at Westfield. I'll go running back, running back.

1302
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 4: Not to worry about Johnathan Taylor.

1303
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 1: What if I said offensive line? Too many flowers there?

1304
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Brandon Smith free agency obviously, Yeah, you

1305
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: know is something to acknowledge. I don't know. I'm not

1306
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: as down. You know, I've gotten some questions, like, hey,

1307
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: offensive line, lady, And I get Jonathan Taylor's rushing numbers

1308
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: were poor, but I I mean defensively, I could talk

1309
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: myself into every level. I guess wide receiver, assuming you

1310
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: bring back Pierce.

1311
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 4: But I was gonna say that though, I'm like, okay,

1312
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 4: assume you bring him back. But then if Pittman's gone.

1313
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: Right right, I get that he wasn't I know, but

1314
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: it was his salary.

1315
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 4: But he's a reliable player.

1316
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go kicker, and then I'll well, I don't know, offensively.

1317
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 5: Go running back and quarterback, mainly because they pigeonholed themselves

1318
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 5: to the quarterback position again.

1319
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: The quarterbacks come off with torny Chelles I'm gonna stick

1320
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: with my kicker, which I don't know what that means

1321
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: for the state of your franchise, but I'm pretty I'm

1322
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: pretty serious of that answer.

1323
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 4: Get Blake Groupie on the side of the luks Oil statement.

1324
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 3: Build at you, Groopy, it might be all right. AFC

1325
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 3: Championshipship game was marred by bad weather in Denver. Some

1326
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 3: love it, some hate it. Where do you stand on

1327
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 3: bed weather games in such monumental moments.

1328
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 4: I think it is overrated.

1329
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 5: The people who love football weather don't always include the

1330
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 5: fact that football weather includes good weather as well. Two

1331
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 5: roles played almost every year in a great environment, because

1332
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 5: they know they don't want the game to be decided

1333
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 5: by the elements. So I am not a fan of

1334
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 5: football weather. Yeah, I'm also pretty soft. I don't wear

1335
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 5: a snuggie at you know, training camp. I have got

1336
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 5: a little hold out.

1337
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: There for I love some elements.

1338
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 3: Querry sliding in the seat all of a sudden, I.

1339
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: Love some elements. I will say maybe the fourth quarter

1340
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: got a little bit too element y for me on

1341
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: Sunday in Denver. You know, I think back to Colt's

1342
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: bills in twenty seventeen, Jack Doyle rumbling through the snow,

1343
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: Adam Van Terry making I think what he said was

1344
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: the toughest kick of his life, that extra point to

1345
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: force the game in overtime. There, you know, that's maybe

1346
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: a hair too much. But like guys, in ten years,

1347
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: every game is going to be in a dome. Won't

1348
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: we be bitching and moaning about that?

1349
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 5: I will not be, not me, but the masses probably will,

1350
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 5: all right.

1351
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 3: Shador Sanders was named to the Pro Bowl yesterday here

1352
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 3: will replace Drake Mayis. He heads the Super Bowl may

1353
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert and Josh Allen where the original selections, while

1354
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, Daniel Jones, bo Nicks are out all out

1355
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 3: due to injuries, and Trevor Lawrence opted out. Since Sanders

1356
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 3: had seven touchdowns and ten interceptions, is the time to

1357
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 3: eliminate the Pro Bowl selection as a noteworthy achievement.

1358
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence doing a little another dame thing. They're opting out. Yeah,

1359
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: I didn't want any pop tarts to this pop Tart

1360
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: Bowl here on this Tuesday morning. I think there's no

1361
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: bigger joke than the Pro Bowl nod as the eighth alternate.

1362
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: That's why I think all Pro means more James.

1363
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 3: I agree.

1364
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel the same way about the NBA, like

1365
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 5: all NBA matters more than an All Star not but.

1366
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: Because it's just terrible because basically what it is is

1367
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: if does your position have injuries and opt outs? Yeah?

1368
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: Like Mark, you just listed what eight names before we

1369
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: got to Sanders.

1370
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Sanders wasn't even an alternate, so he was an

1371
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 3: alternate alternate.

1372
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: Some positions you don't have injuries. You know, Let's say

1373
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: it's like take defensive tackle for example, and let's say

1374
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: to Force Buckner is the first alternate. The only way

1375
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: to Force Buckner becomes a pro bowler is if the

1376
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: guys above him are hurt, so he's at the mercy

1377
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: of them getting hurt in order for him to get

1378
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: the honor. Whereas you know, remember the year Gardner, Minshew

1379
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: and Snoop Huntley were Pro Bowl quarterbacks, they get the

1380
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: honor because the names that Mark just listed they all

1381
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: opt out Like that, That to me, isn't a true

1382
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: reflection of you like earning it.

1383
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 4: If that make sense, I'll.

1384
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 5: Just throw my wrist up a lah Shuder Sanders because

1385
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 5: all of you guys are haters. But no, I didn't agree.

1386
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 5: I don't know how you can even justify go. I

1387
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 5: don't blame him for accepting it. It's like a free

1388
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 5: trip to what Disney World, Disneyland in one of those places.

1389
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Disney World. So they're actually now, aren't we out

1390
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl? I think we're now. We've moved

1391
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl to the Super Bowl, right, I.

1392
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 5: Say, free vacation if you go skills competition, So free vacation.

1393
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 5: I don't blame him for taking it, but I also

1394
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 5: want to get outraged because of Sheder Sanders. They've allowed

1395
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 5: plenty of people who were never deserving to go, so

1396
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 5: he's just the latest one.

1397
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: I kind of rank all pro is that award that

1398
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: James got a few weeks ago, very deserving and a

1399
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: great honor. And then Pro Bowls kind of like when

1400
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: Jeff says to us at ten on one, Hey, I

1401
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: thought you guys did a nice job today.

1402
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:42,439
Speaker 3: Nice pat on the back.

1403
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: Right, our fearless leader couldn't make it in today. Garage

1404
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: door issue.

1405
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 4: I have questions about that.

1406
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: All right.

1407
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 3: Last one, real quick. The ww's marquee events on the

1408
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 3: calendar year. The first of the year is Saturday. In

1409
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 3: the Royal Rumble. It's the first time. It will take

1410
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 3: place outside the United States for the first time Audi Arabia.

1411
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 3: So that's problematic right out of the gate. But the

1412
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 3: thing I can't wrap my head around is they built

1413
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 3: a twenty five thousand seat stadium for this event in

1414
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 3: twenty days. It was a literal dirt field on January fifth,

1415
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 3: and now it's a stadium. Would you want to be

1416
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 3: in the test audience for an arena that was built

1417
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 3: in that amount of time.

1418
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: No, I'd rather be in the ring with USO, Yeah

1419
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: or Speed? Did I say those names?

1420
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 2: Right?

1421
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 3: I mean, honest to God, look at these pictures. I

1422
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 3: mean it was a dirt field and now it's a

1423
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 3: full stadium twenty days later. I don't know how much

1424
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 3: I trust that structure.

1425
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: Though I'm currently googling this.

1426
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 3: It's insane this as well, this is crazy.

1427
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 5: I'm gonna pass because I feel like this is a

1428
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 5: glorified version.

1429
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: Of Why did they stay faire long? Mark?

1430
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think they're building stadium because they're

1431
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 3: supposed to get the World Cup in like twenty thirty four,

1432
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 3: But why they took so long?

1433
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: I have no idea.

1434
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 3: Because they knew about this event at least a year out,

1435
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 3: so I don't know what the hold up was.

1436
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 4: No, I'll pass.

1437
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 5: Like I said, this is glorified state fair work. I

1438
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 5: don't get on the rods at the state Fair you want,

1439
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 5: I don't think you can just kind of put up

1440
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 5: a matter of days.

1441
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm not getting on it.

1442
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 3: Give me the good old fashioned stams take like five

1443
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 3: years to build.

1444
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Northwest Indiana's not coming up with the stadium

1445
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: in thirty days to make it. The Gary Man, I.

1446
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 5: Was gonna say, if they want to get things moving

1447
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 5: in Man, make sure they secure that Bear's location.

1448
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 4: They might.

1449
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 3: If you haven't seen the pictures, you should look. It

1450
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 3: is mind boggling.

1451
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: Rob Blackman and ten Mark Dyton, thank you for that.

1452
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:36,479
Speaker 1: I got to know. Let's check it down.

1453
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,400
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1458
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Speaker 3: Slash Indeed, I.

1459
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: Would get to the college hoops game of the night

1460
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 1: here in just a second with James Boyd. We got

1461
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: Matt and a snow day basketball yesterday. Facers were great

1462
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: in the first half and horrific in the second half,

1463
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: particularly late third quarter. He ended up being a thirty

1464
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: one point differential fifteen point halftime or I think a

1465
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: sixteen point halftime lead, lose by fifteen. Benedict Matheren did

1466
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: make his return. He had sixteen in the first half.

1467
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: Looked like peak. Matherin didn't score though in the second half.

1468
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: That is a one in four road trip for the

1469
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: Indiana Papers.

1470
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was good to see Mathern back out there,

1471
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 5: and I just wonder will he still be a pacer

1472
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 5: after what next week's trade deadline?

1473
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: A little bit of a rap on that right thumb

1474
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 1: and yain he came out and was I mean everything

1475
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: pull up three in the dude's face, you know, tough

1476
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: take slot cut with TJ McConnell for a bucket there,

1477
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: got to the foul line. He did all of it

1478
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:47,759
Speaker 1: there and then he was a part of the issues

1479
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: there in the second half as that league got away

1480
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: in a hurry in the Pacers' late third quarter early fourth,

1481
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 1: they bump that up because of whether Rick Carlisle join

1482
01:08:56,680 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 1: us here. Coming up at nine to thirty again tonight

1483
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 1: in Bloomington. It is a match number one of the

1484
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,759
Speaker 1: rivalry of Indiana and Purdue, four and a half point

1485
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: underdog at home the Indiana Hoosiers. James just a massive one. Obviously.

1486
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 1: For Indiana it is absolutely massive for the resume. They

1487
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 1: have yet to beat an NCAA tournament team. I think

1488
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: they're oh to seven in Quad one games this season,

1489
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: I believe or Owen six, something like that. And then

1490
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: for Purdue, I'd say it probably falls a little bit

1491
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: more in just your psyche category. And if you want

1492
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: the goal of one of the Big Ten overcoming a

1493
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 1: three game losing streak within the conference, it's probably too

1494
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: steep of a mountain to climb.

1495
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, with the way Illinois is playing, Nebraska's playing,

1496
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 5: you can't afford to keep losing ground.

1497
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 4: So can they bounce back?

1498
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 5: And then, as I told you all earlier throughout the show,

1499
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 5: can Trey Kaufman Wren I think get back to playing

1500
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 5: at an all American level.

1501
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: Four scholarship players for Purdue hail from the state of Indiana.

1502
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: Obviously they're big three. Braden Smith, Fletcher Lawyer, Trey Kaufman Wren,

1503
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 1: Jack Benter shout out to him from I guess a

1504
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: little bit down there in the southern part of the state,

1505
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,839
Speaker 1: also from Indiana, and for the Hoosiers just Trent Sissly

1506
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: from a scholarship standpoint. So we'll see what that crowd

1507
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 1: looks like in there again. Nine o'clock tonight, Peacock, John Fanta,

1508
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: Robbie Hummel.

1509
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 5: I love John Fanca. By the way, no one does

1510
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 5: college basketball better than my boy.

1511
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: High energy, to say the least. He loves his job,

1512
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 1: mister Fanca, he definitely does. And Robbi Humble they have

1513
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: cloned him. That is real. It seems like it. The

1514
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 1: dude works everywhere. I swear he's He might be on

1515
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: the call of Cathedral scene at the City Tournament tonight,

1516
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 1: but you know he wanted to do it too there.

1517
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 1: Speaking of that, that game has moved to Cathedral Cotton

1518
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: then Rip had that news in the Star last night.

1519
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 1: I assume that's weather related, he learning related. So seven

1520
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: o'clock that game is bumped up. We're in Senior Bowl

1521
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: week here for the NFL, so you get some news

1522
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: items down there in Mobile on that you've been at

1523
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, James, I.

1524
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 4: Have I went one time.

1525
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 5: I want to say back in twenty twenty two worth

1526
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 5: it not necessarily for me. I don't think so, because

1527
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 5: I went down there with the intention of trying to

1528
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 5: talk to Chris Ballad and a few other people are

1529
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 5: related to the Colts, but that opportunity to never really materialize,

1530
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 5: and because that hasn't happened since they told me every year,

1531
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 5: I don't have to go again.

1532
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 1: The Colts have had a long history, of course of

1533
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. Recent pick slot to lot too, Tanner Porlini,

1534
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:22,839
Speaker 1: Jalen Travis, Riley, Leonards. So you know, practice start tomorrow

1535
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: down their game coming up this weekend, or actually practice

1536
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:27,839
Speaker 1: may start today. I forget if they do a Saturday

1537
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 1: game or a Sunday game. But Elijah Surat Kaylon Black,

1538
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 1: the Indiana representation down there. I did watch some college

1539
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 1: hoops last night. You got in both games, Duke Louisville

1540
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: Duke roll chout out to Ryan Conwell. He was great

1541
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: for Louisville. No one else showed up for Pat Kelsey's team.

1542
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: And then Arizona, BYU you got some NBA flavor. But

1543
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,799
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie man. I was blown away by Arizona.

1544
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 1: I mean that team to be undefeated on January twenty

1545
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 1: seventh at a major conference. Probably speaks for itself. But yeah, man,

1546
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: they got three freshmen starting lineup and they can play.

1547
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: They might be here, you know, come to that time

1548
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: of the year. Ajda Bansa was six of twenty four

1549
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: from the floor. Yeah, a hell of a defensive play by.

1550
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 4: Don't draft them.

1551
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: I'll sure the pacer Brayden Burry's late in that game

1552
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 1: to block that shot. Jayden Bradley was outstanding for Arizona

1553
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: as well. So pretty good college hoops from a national

1554
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: standpoint last night. All right, coming up, we'll talk much

1555
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 1: more on another meeting of Indiana and Perdue. Four and

1556
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 1: a half point favorite the boiler Makers in this one.

1557
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 1: Rob Blackman, voice of the Boilers, joins us. Next, you were.

1558
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 9: Listening to a fan morning show on sports Radio ninety

1559
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 9: three five and one oh seven five the.

1560
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 1: Fan nine o'clock inside of Assembly Hall. Tonight it will

1561
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: be the visiting Perdue boiler Makers against the Indiana Who's

1562
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: your Darren Devrees's first experience at a rivalry that is

1563
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: always held in high regard in our state, and I

1564
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: always think back to Matt Painter with his flirtation with

1565
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: Missouri now many many years ago, saying he thought about

1566
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: nights like tonight walking inside of Assembly Hall as the

1567
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 1: head coach of Purdue and not being able to do

1568
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: that if you were to take that job, and Purdue

1569
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: fans very grateful, and of course that did not happen.

1570
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: To talk more about tonight's game, and I guess the

1571
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 1: travels down there to Bloomington. He is the voice of

1572
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: the Purdue Global Radio networked the great Rob Blackman, joins us, Rob,

1573
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 1: are you safe and sound still here in the Indy area?

1574
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:37,440
Speaker 1: Are you down in Bloomington?

1575
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 2: All right, I'm safe and sound in Zionsville, Indiana, my home.

1576
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,600
Speaker 2: I did not, Kevin. The reason I chose not to

1577
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 2: go down last night with the team is because the

1578
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 2: old dreaded nine pm start. I did not feel like

1579
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 2: sitting around a hotel waiting all day and all night

1580
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 2: for a game. So I'll drive down later this afternoon,

1581
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 2: take my time, mosey down, and yeah, ready for the

1582
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 2: dreaded nine o'clock, which, as you guys know, is never

1583
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 2: nine o'clock. Because you're the backmen of the other games,

1584
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 2: You're going to be closer to nine ten or nine

1585
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 2: to fifteen. So all the beauty of television and their scheduling.

1586
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope you and Bobby have some extra material

1587
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 1: from nine o'clock to nine oh seven or something tonight.

1588
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: I assume the team made it down there.

1589
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 3: Do you did they bus or do they flyve right?

1590
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 2: I guess no? No, yeah, always bus North Northwestern Illinois

1591
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 2: and Indiana have always been the bus trips, obviously for

1592
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 2: financial reasons, so much easier and quite frankly, just as convenient.

1593
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, they bust down. Actually they left yesterday afternoon

1594
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,879
Speaker 2: Lafayette about the five thirty or so, so yeah, they're

1595
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 2: saving sound So Rob.

1596
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 5: As an Illinois alum, I can't lot to you inside

1597
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 5: didn't enjoy the last outing for the boiler Makers seeing

1598
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 5: what Keith Walkler was able to do at Mackie but

1599
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 5: produce side of things, having lost the last two and

1600
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 5: being up late, where is a sense of urgency for

1601
01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 5: this group to get back on track against IU?

1602
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,879
Speaker 2: Well, no this, James. My wife is also a University

1603
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:04,879
Speaker 2: of Illinois graduate.

1604
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 4: So oh, you married a great woman, never matter what,

1605
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 4: she must be great.

1606
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 2: It's it's always a difficult night in our house when

1607
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 2: me a line. But well, it really it comes down

1608
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 2: to one area of the game would I would argue,

1609
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 2: and it's on both sides, and that is three point

1610
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 2: shooting produced. Three point shooting has not been very good

1611
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 2: as of late, which is a bit surprising when you considered,

1612
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 2: you know, Produe typically really the last handful of years

1613
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 2: has always been in the top ten in three point

1614
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 2: percentage in the country. I think about that year Perdue

1615
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 2: into the final four, they were either number one or

1616
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 2: number two in the country in three point percentage. But

1617
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 2: you know that numbers come back to earth a little

1618
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 2: bit thirty six percent if you're just looking at the

1619
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 2: big ten games. The problem is on the flip side,

1620
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 2: the opponent seems to have no problem making threes right now.

1621
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 2: You take out the USC game and I think it's

1622
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,839
Speaker 2: you know, for the last five games again excluding USC,

1623
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 2: the opponent has not only shot better than their typical

1624
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 2: three point percentage, but they've shot it significantly better, well

1625
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:16,600
Speaker 2: up into the forty percentile in most cases. And you

1626
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 2: look at Illinois on this past week and they were

1627
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 2: what I think forty seven percent. Now, granted, one guy

1628
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 2: was nine of eleven from three, so that certainly helps

1629
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 2: sway the numbers a bit. But yeah, to me, I'm

1630
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 2: not as a Purdue fan, I'm not nearly as concerned

1631
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 2: about produced three point shooting as a team. There are

1632
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 2: just too many good shooters on this team to think

1633
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 2: that that number is not going to come back around.

1634
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 2: My bigger concern would be on the defensive end, in

1635
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 2: guarding the three point line. That's where a marked improvement

1636
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 2: needs to happen. And look start with tonight with Indiana.

1637
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,839
Speaker 2: A team that makes ten threes a game on the average,

1638
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 2: a team that lives on that three point arc. So

1639
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 2: that makes this game all makes me all that more

1640
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 2: nervous for this one tonight and Bloombington.

1641
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: Rob watching that on Saturday. First off, I thought it

1642
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 1: was a great college basketball game. I mean, the shot

1643
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 1: making I thought was ex I thought Braden Smith come

1644
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: back from the injury. He made some shots that I

1645
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: kind of forgot that he was capable of. But it

1646
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 1: had me thinking back to Carson Edwards a few years

1647
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: back at Illinois. Ironically enough, I did think about Jalen

1648
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: hood Schaffino a few years ago. Inside of Mackie. I'm

1649
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: sure I'm not stirring up great memories for you, but

1650
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 1: do you recall a visiting player doing something like that

1651
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: inside of Mackie. Like I remember Boo Booie maybe had

1652
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: one of those performances for Northwestern, but maybe that was

1653
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: at Northwestern. Now that I think about it, do you

1654
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 1: recall anybody recently having a game like that.

1655
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 2: Well, the first guy I thought of, too is Jalen

1656
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 2: Hood Schaffino. And first of all, let me answer your

1657
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,600
Speaker 2: question directly, Kevin, No, that that is the best performance

1658
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 2: by far. Just forget the points. I mean that makes

1659
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 2: the answer easy. When a guy scores forty six points,

1660
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 2: the most ever scored by an opponent at Mackie, but

1661
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 2: to do so in the efficiency in which he did,

1662
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 2: You know, I told as we mentioned a second ago

1663
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 2: nine of eleven from three and to be a true

1664
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 2: freshman playing at Macki Arena. We mentioned this on the

1665
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 2: broadcast in the post came. Most true freshmen that come

1666
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 2: into Mackie normally don't have a great first opportunity at

1667
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 2: Macki Arena because it's so it's so intimidating. That was

1668
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 2: not the case obviously for him. But that was easily

1669
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 2: the best performance I've ever seen from an opponent. Yes,

1670
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 2: Jalen Hood Schafino popped up in my head. As a

1671
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 2: guy that we may even have said that on the

1672
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 2: broadcast as you as you're watching and you're like, wow,

1673
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 2: an opponent to do this to Purdue at Mackie, you

1674
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 2: just don't ever see it. The only other I thought

1675
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 2: of two others. Nate Mason way back in the day

1676
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 2: from Minnesota went for thirty one and ten I think

1677
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 2: tennisists against Purdue when Minnesota beat Purdue at Mackie in overtime,

1678
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 2: last time Minnesota has won it Purdue. I thought that

1679
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 2: was one of the all time great performances. I was

1680
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 2: thinking that one. The other one I thought of actually

1681
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 2: was Evan Turner Ohio State. He and Robbie Hummel had

1682
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 2: a just a we've got like a one on one battle.

1683
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 2: I think it was Rob's senior year, maybe at mack

1684
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 2: the Arena, a game in which Ohio State eventually won.

1685
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 2: Evan Turner had I don't know, thirty two thirty four

1686
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,600
Speaker 2: in that particular game. So those are the guys that

1687
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 2: first came to mind as I was trying to think about,

1688
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 2: you know, all time great performances from an opponent. But

1689
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,759
Speaker 2: none of the guys, none of those names I just mentioned,

1690
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 2: can hold a candle to what Keaton Wogler did on Saturday.

1691
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't imagine, you know, this is my

1692
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 2: twenty first year with Perdue Radio. If I somehow managed

1693
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 2: to make it another twenty one years, I can't imagine

1694
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 2: I would ever see that type of a performance from

1695
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 2: an opponent ever again. At Macki Arena. Maybe I will,

1696
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 2: But man, if I'm a betting man, I would say

1697
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 2: no way, because that was one for the ages again.

1698
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: You know that voice that is the voice of the

1699
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: Purdue Global Radio Network, Rob Blackman join us here. Him

1700
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 1: and Bobby Ronell have you covered? And I think Greg

1701
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:02,679
Speaker 1: Ragshaw and I we make our annual sent upon Us

1702
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 1: thirty one and back from the Notre Dame Virginia game tonight,

1703
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: and I have a feeling we'll be dialing them up,

1704
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 1: certainly for a chunk of the game. Robbie, you brought

1705
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 1: it up a few minutes ago defending the three point line,

1706
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 1: and you know, we discussed it yesterday in the show,

1707
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 1: and then Matt Painter, I know, was asked about it

1708
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 1: yesterday in the preview. It seems like so much of

1709
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: tonight and really it's kind of a big picture question

1710
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 1: for Purdue right now. Is about defending teams that have

1711
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 1: kind of that stretch four if you will. You know,

1712
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: Ucla hits the game winner kind of off of that

1713
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: type of action there. Oscar Cluff and Trey Kauffman Ren

1714
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: are great post players, but they also defend fives more

1715
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: than they defend fours, if you will. It seems like

1716
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: tonight for me, Rob Boyle, so much down to who

1717
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: commits to the other defensively, first IU guarding Trey Kaufman

1718
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 1: w Ren and Oscar Cloff or Purdue having to chase

1719
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: tuckerd Frees around with IU now having more shooters out

1720
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: there with Nick Door in the starting lineup.

1721
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin, I would add, are you trading two for

1722
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 2: three in that scenario, right, because obviously debrees every time

1723
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 2: he makes one, it's probably going to be for three,

1724
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,759
Speaker 2: and every time TK and Oscar makes one, it's probably

1725
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 2: going to be for two. So you're already minus one

1726
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 2: in that exchange. But yes, boy, you look at what

1727
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 2: Tyler Bilideau did on the game winner. You mentioned it

1728
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 2: for Ucla as a stretch for and you know what

1729
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 2: Illinois did so well in our coaches had talked about

1730
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 2: this even leading up to the game. As they run

1731
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 2: so in NBA style offense where they get the ball

1732
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:38,440
Speaker 2: in the hands of the guy they wanted, and then

1733
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 2: you can just watch a lot of NBA basketballs he knows.

1734
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 2: Then they just start running a lot of ball screens

1735
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 2: until they get the switch they want. And then when

1736
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 2: they get the switch they want, you know, then you're cooked.

1737
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 2: Then you're just kind of getting down to your knees

1738
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 2: and praying that the guy misses a shot because that's true.

1739
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 2: Only that's your only way of stopping them. And so

1740
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 2: they just kept screening for the ball for Woggler until

1741
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 2: he got the switch they wanted, and then he could

1742
01:21:57,920 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 2: go to work. And he certainly went to work. But

1743
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 2: back to the original thought, absolutely, if you find yourself

1744
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 2: exchange going bucket for bucket tonight with Devrees or whomever

1745
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 2: it might be. You know, you mentioned him as a

1746
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 2: stretch four. Uh, you know, obviously Wilkerson's not a true four,

1747
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 2: but you can obviously stretch the four as well. If

1748
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:20,759
Speaker 2: you find yourself trading baskets for Indiana Indiana tonight, probably

1749
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 2: not a good scenario for Purdue because, as I said,

1750
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 2: in that scenario, you're probably trading twos for threes and

1751
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 2: has even me a guy who I'm not a real

1752
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 2: smart guy. You guys probably know this, uh so map

1753
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 2: maybe not my forte, but I know if one team

1754
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 2: gets three every time they make a shot and my

1755
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 2: team gets two every time they make a shot, probably

1756
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 2: not good for my team. So that will be a

1757
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 2: concern tonight. Absolutely.

1758
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 4: Who needs to watch Sesame Street?

1759
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:51,600
Speaker 1: When you Rob? Who needs PBS mark when I is

1760
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,719
Speaker 1: dial you up? And now my kids can learn everything?

1761
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: Thank you for that, Rob.

1762
01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 4: I do want to double back to Trey caf Ren.

1763
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,679
Speaker 5: How would you evaluate the season he's had so far,

1764
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 5: knowing the talent he possesses, but perhaps least in my opinion,

1765
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 5: not being at the level that I'm used to seeing

1766
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 5: him at in Big Ten play.

1767
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 2: Well, his numbers are down scoring wise, but his numbers

1768
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 2: are also up and rebounds and assist and I think

1769
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 2: that is to be fair to Trey, that's probably what

1770
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 2: we expected coming into the season because of the addition

1771
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 2: of Oscar Cluff and now Trey plays the four, and

1772
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 2: it's quite frankly, he just doesn't get as many touches

1773
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 2: in half court offense because Perdue as Purdue has done

1774
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 2: ever since Matt Painter has been there is throw Prdue

1775
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 2: throws the ball inside every time. That's just what they do.

1776
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 2: But instead of last year, Trey got to touch it

1777
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 2: every time because he was the one loan option in

1778
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 2: the post. Now you're splitting those touches between he and Cluff.

1779
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 2: The other thing I would say to Trey for Tray

1780
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 2: in his defense because I know some fans are I've

1781
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 2: been getting after him because you know, look, he had

1782
01:23:56,600 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 2: nineteen twenty point games last year, nineteen twenty games. Purdue

1783
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 2: only played thirty six games. In nineteen of them, he

1784
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 2: scored twenty points. Some more, he hasn't had a twenty

1785
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 2: point game yet this season, but again, a big reason

1786
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,759
Speaker 2: for that is well, as I mentioned, he's really splitting

1787
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 2: touches in the post with Cluff, A and B. He's

1788
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 2: playing really in a proll in tends of purposes, a

1789
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 2: new position in a lot of different ways. He mentioned

1790
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,600
Speaker 2: we had him on our podcast. I guess it was

1791
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 2: last week. I suppose it was, and he said, you know,

1792
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 2: this is my fourth year playing and I've played four

1793
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 2: different positions for all intents and purposes, so I'm kind

1794
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 2: of relearning a new position now in the way I

1795
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 2: have to play as a four with Oscar Cluff, so

1796
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 2: there has been a bit of a learning curve there

1797
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 2: for him. But yeah, I have to tell you he

1798
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 2: as a Purdue fan, he would be the least of

1799
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 2: my worries simply because knowing what he brings to the table.

1800
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 2: He was first team All Big Ten last year. It's

1801
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 2: not like all of a sudden he's forgotten how to play.

1802
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 2: Are his scoring numbers down? Yes, but again he's not

1803
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 2: the focal point of the offense or really the only

1804
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 2: offense of option in the low post like he was

1805
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 2: last year. Crew had no other option except for him.

1806
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 1: For Pete's sake, that would be the podcast Rob representing there,

1807
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 1: Him and the great Jolly Maul and Arrow have some

1808
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: fun convos throughout the course of the athletic season for

1809
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 1: the Boilers. And as he said earlier, the stall tactics

1810
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 1: will be out tonight as they wait until probably about

1811
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 1: nine to ten for that one to tip off from

1812
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: the Bloomington. Rob Safe travels down there and have a great,

1813
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 1: great call.

1814
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 2: We will try. Yeah, thank you Kevin, thank you James,

1815
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 2: thanks for having me.

1816
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: That's Rob Blackman, voice of the Boilers right there on

1817
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 1: the Hey Less Liquors Hotline. We'll get John Herrick the

1818
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 1: EU side of it coming up at nine o'clock.

1819
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 5: My boy is married to in Illinois alone, Rob Blackman,

1820
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 5: You did right, brother, That had to be funny in

1821
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:48,600
Speaker 5: the household.

1822
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: How about her? Is still you know? All in on

1823
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: the Friday? Lina? Even though the W two says perdue athletics.

1824
01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 5: I was going to say true true love right there.

1825
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 5: That is not gonna low my loyalty kind of shifts

1826
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 5: depending on where the six's come from.

1827
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 1: How about a favorite Colts moment from the season. I'm

1828
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 1: serious in that comment. We'll look back on that before

1829
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: we get to John Herrick at nine Rick Carlisle at

1830
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:13,719
Speaker 1: nine thirty, This is the Fan Morning.

1831
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 9: If you were listening to a fan morning show on

1832
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 9: sports Radio ninety three to five and one oh seven

1833
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 9: five the Fan.

1834
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 1: I'd say road's definitely better here on this Tuesday morning,

1835
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 1: but maybe not overwhelmingly better. So if you don't have

1836
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 1: to go out, probably would be wise just to stay in,

1837
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 1: But if you got to, you can definitely make it

1838
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 1: in here on this Tuesday morning. We'll chat with John

1839
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 1: Herrick get the EU side of it tonight. Purdueing Indiana

1840
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 1: nine o'clock tip a four and a half point favorite

1841
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 1: the Boilers down there inside of Assembly Hall. We'll chat

1842
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 1: with him coming up in about ten minutes and Rick

1843
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 1: Carlisle at nine thirty. James, if I did a poll

1844
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 1: for fans their favorite moment from the twenty twenty five season,

1845
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 1: I think you would have to go with the Berlin

1846
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 1: overtime win. You going Jonathan Taylor run one Jhona Taylor run,

1847
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 1: because not only was that run amazing, it secured you

1848
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 1: a big win overseas you go into the buy week

1849
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 1: eight and two, when you were atop the AFC standings,

1850
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: the vibes were high, KB, Could I that individual play

1851
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: is probably yes?

1852
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 3: What about just winning in week one? Finally, Oh boy,

1853
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. I wrote that down ending the

1854
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 3: drought and like that was an ass kicking.

1855
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,759
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know that was a beatdown. That was Miami.

1856
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson got in that game, did you know or

1857
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 1: did Daniel Jones play the whole game?

1858
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1859
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 1: Maybe he did, but that was like full control. That

1860
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: was a good one. You know the other one I

1861
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 1: thought of and this is where like you get into

1862
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 1: win or loss, like if Omark Cooper Junior catches that

1863
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: pass and then Penn State comes down and wins, it's

1864
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 1: probably I mean, it's it's an incredible Williams and the Bears,

1865
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 1: right exactly. It's a Caleb Williams play against against the Rams. There.

1866
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: I think back to the Seattle game, and I think

1867
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 1: for some fans when Rivers through the touchdown to Josh Downs,

1868
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 1: that was like such a euphoric movie moment. You know,

1869
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 1: that was Airbud bounced the ball off his nose and

1870
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 1: it went in from half court. You know that was

1871
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: Ali made the free throw.

1872
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 4: That was just pump afterwards.

1873
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 1: Right, Rudy got the sack, you know, that was But honestly,

1874
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 1: maybe Blake Groupies field goal in that game, like just

1875
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 1: the sheer, like oh my gosh, dude, that's sixty yard,

1876
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: or just go in thinking you're gonna win the game,

1877
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: and I you know, again, I don't know if they

1878
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 1: make the playoffs if they win the game, but they

1879
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 1: certainly have more to play for in the final couple

1880
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 1: weeks of the season. So those were a couple others

1881
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 1: that I had.

1882
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 3: Another one I had was at the home game against

1883
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 3: the Titans. I think it was like Week eight. At

1884
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,560
Speaker 3: that point he demolished them right, pushed the seven and

1885
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 3: one Jonathan Taylor's eighty yard run. Everything was moving and

1886
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 3: grooving at that point. Daniel Jones was locked in, Jonathan

1887
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 3: Taylor was running all over the field. That was like,

1888
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 3: who sky's the limit right now?

1889
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: Was that coming out a halftime mark if I remember correctly, yes, yeah, yeah.

1890
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 3: To kind of piggyback off fifty like four minutes into

1891
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 3: the second half.

1892
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1893
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 5: Then't he have a stretch there mark where it was

1894
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 5: something like he scored three rushing touchdowns in like four

1895
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 5: straight game. It was something crazy like that where I

1896
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 5: mean jay t I want to say he scored maybe

1897
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 5: seventeen rushing touchdowns through the first ten games of the year,

1898
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 5: he was on one. I think he finished a year

1899
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 5: with twenty, so he had three over the last seven games.

1900
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 4: But boy, he was rolling.

1901
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 5: I will go with another moment would be like you said,

1902
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 5: Kevin after Blake groupie kick in Seattle, And just to

1903
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:06,799
Speaker 5: give you all my perspective being there in that moment

1904
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 5: in the press box and thinking, oh my gosh, what

1905
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 5: if this dude just did the impossible? Because we saw

1906
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,639
Speaker 5: that Seattle team Hello, They're in the super Bowl. Very

1907
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:21,639
Speaker 5: good team, and old man Rivers almost got him. Back

1908
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 5: shoulder throw to Alec Pearce sets you up for a

1909
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:24,639
Speaker 5: Ccuri field goal.

1910
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:26,639
Speaker 4: Man, that was something.

1911
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. And again, part of that I think is just

1912
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 1: like the River's movie. I mean, hell, Groopy almost looks

1913
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 1: like a movie character, you know, given a stature. I

1914
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 1: That's where I'd go. Samuel's choosing to drink the other glass.

1915
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 1: Here my favorite Colts moments when the season ended.

1916
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 3: Oh come on, Samuel, you weren't feeling that way after

1917
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 3: that win against the Titans, and we.

1918
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 5: Eight, Samuel, we got to get you to kind of

1919
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 5: see the glasses half fool brother.

1920
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 1: I think the best individual moment, James is probably the

1921
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 1: Berlin run, Taylor run. Maybe the overtime ron. You know,

1922
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 1: that's probably the best individual moment. I think Seattle you

1923
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 1: could point to. And then I mean again, just giving

1924
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 1: the week one drought, Mark, you and I are on

1925
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 1: the same wavelength here, just to sheer down, you know,

1926
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 1: because it's not like we thought Miami was just a

1927
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 1: push over in Week one. I know they obviously struggled

1928
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 1: out of the gate, but I mean that was healthy too.

1929
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 1: That wasn't you know, Tad Boyle and Tyler Huntley you

1930
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 1: had beaten the wekor or the year prior we got Alex.

1931
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 5: Lover in here in our YouTube chat saying getting a

1932
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 5: second chance with Denver. Yes, the leverage penalty had to

1933
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 5: be quite the swinging momentum or swinging emotions rather, because

1934
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 5: on one hand you're thinking you lost the game, and

1935
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:41,679
Speaker 5: on the other hand you're like, wait a second. It's

1936
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 5: like when you're a little kid and you count down

1937
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 5: to your driveway five, four through two, one of you miss,

1938
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 5: and then you tell yourself.

1939
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 4: Oh wait, but there's more time. That's literally what happened

1940
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 4: to the cult in real life, because that never happens.

1941
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:56,879
Speaker 1: It's a great analogy there. Yeah, I mean it's gloomy outside.

1942
01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 1: Oh I guess it's not gloomy. I can actually see

1943
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 1: the sun, but you know, it's cold, there's snow. It

1944
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 1: strikes me off. COVID in twenty twenty, they were trying

1945
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 1: to look back on some uplifting moments. My sister in

1946
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 1: law Mark said on the family text yesterday, this feels

1947
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 1: like COVID, does it not? Doesn't feel like we're kind

1948
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 1: of trapped right now?

1949
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was weird.

1950
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 4: It does kind of feel like that now. Question.

1951
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm yelling at my kids. Earlier in

1952
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,759
Speaker 1: the day, we had the late I can be fully honest.

1953
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 3: We had the late you know, they have the late

1954
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 3: start today for Brownsburg, and I was just like, I

1955
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 3: didn't really think anything of it. And I was like, oh,

1956
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:27,640
Speaker 3: you guys want a bull Cereal? Like, yeah, sure, had

1957
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 3: a bowl cereal. It's like kind of winding down the night.

1958
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 3: And Ashley looked at me like, after they finished their bowls,

1959
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 3: is it eleven o'clock. I was like, oh my god,

1960
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 3: it is go to bed. What are we doing here? Yeah,

1961
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 3: it's like just time is does not not exist right now.

1962
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 4: Man, all I heard in that story is there's only

1963
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 4: one parent parenting. I was o'clock.

1964
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 2: Huh.

1965
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. She's like, oh at the night at the hotel,

1966
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 3: now you're just you know, give them cereal at eleven o'clock.

1967
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:52,719
Speaker 3: My I don't know. I was all over the board.

1968
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 1: My mom always got on me.

1969
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 5: She told me I didn't She told me I wasn't

1970
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 5: really a fussy kid, but I wouldn't go to bed

1971
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 5: like and so she would come check on me at

1972
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,600
Speaker 5: night or whatever, and I would just be up just

1973
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 5: looking around, and she was all you did was look

1974
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 5: you would never go to sleep. And she also told

1975
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 5: the story about how she told my grandma that I

1976
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 5: would smile as a kid, which it seems ridiculous now.

1977
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 4: I feel like I.

1978
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 3: Smile a lot, but make it up for lost time.

1979
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 4: I know she was telling me.

1980
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 5: She said she went to my grandmother laughed in her

1981
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 5: face because she was like, my baby will not smile,

1982
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:24,839
Speaker 5: and she was like, he'll smile when he gets ready.

1983
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 4: That's how. That's how it works. So little Memory Lane

1984
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 4: there on this chilly Tuesday, looking outside at the cars

1985
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 4: that are moving by, does look like traffic moving pretty well.

1986
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:38,640
Speaker 1: So again, morning commute for us maybe definitely better. But

1987
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't say you're crystal clear just yet here.

1988
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 1: I'll hopefully it'll be back to normal from a schooling

1989
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 1: standpoint coming up tomorrow. I think I speak for every

1990
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 1: parent out there with that.

1991
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 5: How thorough of a car cleaner are you? Are you

1992
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 5: having the block of snow in your car where it's like, hey, whatever,

1993
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 5: long as I got the windshield in the windows, I'm not.

1994
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 1: As thorough as I should. If I can be totally honest,

1995
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 1: I feel.

1996
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 5: Like I don't have like an egregious amount of snow

1997
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 5: in my car, But yeah, I might be one of

1998
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 5: the people who has a little bit on the top, like, yeah, well.

1999
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm in the boat. If I can gun it down

2000
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: mridy and fast enough, that thing's flying off. Anyways.

2001
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's I would recommend gunna get

2002
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 4: down Marindy until that's the.

2003
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 1: Best way to say. And the son of the driver's

2004
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 1: at teacher proba, I shouldn't say that out loud, all right,

2005
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 1: John Herrick, he will make the commute down to Bloomington. Tonight.

2006
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,559
Speaker 1: We got the produce side of it with Rob Blackman

2007
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 1: at eight thirty, the IU pre and halftime and postgame

2008
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 1: show host. He is the great John Herrick, He joins

2009
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 1: snackt as you were listening to.

2010
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:52,680
Speaker 9: A fan by show on Sports Radio ninety seven, I.

2011
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 1: Don't go ahead. Certainly a song we heard quite a

2012
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:04,280
Speaker 1: lot in recent weeks and months, mostly for the football program. Frankly, tonight,

2013
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 1: a you fans will want to hear that a whole

2014
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 1: lot down in Bloomington nine o'clock. And as Rob Blackman

2015
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 1: said to us a half hour ago, you know what

2016
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 1: that means, that means more like nine to ten. It'll

2017
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 1: be peacock. Tonight's Robbie Hummel and John Fanto will have

2018
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:22,600
Speaker 1: your TV side of it. But of course, over on WIBC,

2019
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 1: a man that will be carrying the baton a whole

2020
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 1: lot and passing off to Don Fisher. He is John

2021
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 1: Herrick from w ib C. John good wind or good Wednesday,

2022
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: Good Tuesday morning to you, Sarah. How are you?

2023
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 7: You could already be Wednesday, Kevin, with how long this

2024
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 7: week has already seen thanks to mother nature. But yeah,

2025
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 7: I'm doing great man surviving. How are you doing?

2026
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,560
Speaker 1: Amen to that, brother. Let's check in on the WIBC

2027
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 1: side of things before we get into tonight. Of course,

2028
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:53,680
Speaker 1: to John the news director over there at WIBC, how

2029
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 1: we doing on traffic? How we doing on delays and

2030
01:35:57,320 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 1: closing today compared to yesterday?

2031
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 7: Well, the weird thing is, Kevin, I think, honestly, delays

2032
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 7: and closings are a little bit more. My kids are

2033
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 7: at home today on e learning and a lot of

2034
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:12,679
Speaker 7: people are at home on e learning or just close period.

2035
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 7: Bigger issues at the airport, fly to war reporting a

2036
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 7: lot of flights that have been canceled or delayed at

2037
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 7: the airport this morning. Seeing a lot of slide offs

2038
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:26,800
Speaker 7: and accidents on interstates. It's just been it's the same thing.

2039
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 7: It feels like every winter storm. People are told to

2040
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,080
Speaker 7: be careful when they are out on the roads, and

2041
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 7: some people just cannot be careful, and that's been another

2042
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 7: issue again with this winter storm. But the good side

2043
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 7: is where there were travel warnings, there are now they've

2044
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:47,680
Speaker 7: been reduced to either travel watches or travel advisories. So

2045
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 7: that means that the road conditions are improving enough that

2046
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 7: things are easing up and people can get back out

2047
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 7: out there on the roads. But that doesn't mean that

2048
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 7: if you're just not under a travel warning that you

2049
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 7: can just drive. However, you want to need to be

2050
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 7: driving very cautiously as you make your way into work

2051
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 7: or school or wherever you're going, because it's still pretty

2052
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:08,600
Speaker 7: treacherous out there. These cold temperatures and ice are not

2053
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:09,719
Speaker 7: going anywhere for a while.

2054
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 5: So, John, you're saying, when JMV tried to bully me

2055
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 5: into playing basketball Sunday over in Greenwood, I made the

2056
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 5: right choice to not drive.

2057
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:19,880
Speaker 7: Oh, you made the choice.

2058
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 1: Going against JMV. Is probably where you start in terms

2059
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 1: of lawyer.

2060
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 4: He told me you're gonna slur to me on the radio,

2061
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 4: and I was like, Hey, I got to just take it, man.

2062
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:29,759
Speaker 4: I don't want to be in a ditch.

2063
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 7: Wise choice.

2064
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:35,680
Speaker 5: But on a more serious note, looking at the basketball

2065
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 5: side of things, we know what the football program has done.

2066
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 4: Everyone's riding high.

2067
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 5: Off that, but the IU on the hardwood has struggled

2068
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 5: a bit as of late. How big of a matchup

2069
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 5: do you think tonight is for a resume builder? Because

2070
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 5: we was like, this tournament resume, John there's just not

2071
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:54,720
Speaker 5: a lot of Marque wins on it.

2072
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're exactly right, James, And that's why this game

2073
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 7: is not just big from rivalry standpoint, but it's also

2074
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 7: big from a resume building standpoint. This basketball team has

2075
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 7: got to start finding a way to stack quad one

2076
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 7: wins on top of each other. You had an opportunity

2077
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:14,560
Speaker 7: against Louisville, couldn't do it. You had an opportunity against Kentucky,

2078
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 7: fell short in the second half. And then you know,

2079
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 7: you had a golden opportunity against Nebraska, struggled in the

2080
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 7: second half. Michigan State, you were right there with them,

2081
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 7: had a lead, and then Michigan State goes on a

2082
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 7: nineteen to oh run to win the game. So there's

2083
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:31,679
Speaker 7: been opportunities and there's been flashes where they have looked

2084
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 7: good metrically. They're ranked higher than like the last two

2085
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 7: IU basketball teams in previous years that didn't make the

2086
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 7: tournament that they're better in terms of the metrics there,

2087
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 7: but they need to start. It's like coach Degrees said

2088
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 7: yesterday and his press availability, you know, it's not really

2089
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 7: about being concerned about the numbers.

2090
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 2: It's just being concerned about getting.

2091
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 7: One win and stacking that on top of another win

2092
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 7: and just building on it because it's probably going to

2093
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 7: take about twenty wins I would think, along with some

2094
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 7: quad one wins in there for the committee to sit

2095
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:06,519
Speaker 7: there and go, Okay, let's put Indiana in the tournament.

2096
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 7: So they still got some work to do. They're playing

2097
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:12,760
Speaker 7: a Purdue team that's obviously elite. Matt Painter is one

2098
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 7: of the best coaches you're ever going to see or

2099
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:18,560
Speaker 7: hear from, and he I know his team is struggling.

2100
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 2: A little bit right now.

2101
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 7: They've lost their last two, but they've been a very

2102
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:25,120
Speaker 7: tough out for anybody in the Big Ten this year

2103
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 7: and tonight should be an interesting but also very hard

2104
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 7: fought ball game on both sides.

2105
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 1: Four and a half the line currently produe favorite over Indiana.

2106
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 1: John Herrick from the IU Radio Network, of course, with

2107
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:38,439
Speaker 1: us here on the Payloss Slickers Hotline WIBC. We'll have

2108
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:40,599
Speaker 1: your coverage eight o'clock, right, John, That's when you guys

2109
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 1: will be in tonight. That is when we will begin

2110
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 1: eight o'clock for that one. You know Nick Dorn in

2111
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 1: the starting lineup. It's funny, John, we had this conversation

2112
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, and you just laid out I

2113
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 1: used resume very well, and I think there are some questions,

2114
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 1: certainly A about the resume. B when they play bigger teams,

2115
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 1: how well can they hold up on the glass, things

2116
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 1: like that. But I also feel like they have the

2117
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 1: offensive potency. And I said this before Dorn, when the

2118
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:06,640
Speaker 1: starting lineup to where they will, they can shoot it

2119
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:08,599
Speaker 1: so well they're going to pull off an upset at

2120
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 1: some point. Like I'm a little surprised it's taken so

2121
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 1: long to do that. And then you watch Friday Night

2122
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 1: and you see what Nick Dorn can give them, And

2123
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 1: now I kind of even believe that even more, what

2124
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 1: did you see Friday specifically and what Nick Dorn gives

2125
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:25,799
Speaker 1: that starting lineup?

2126
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:30,080
Speaker 7: Well, I think you saw possibly the birth of a nickname.

2127
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 7: I mean, he was so good at hitting corner threes

2128
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 7: that the IU social media team started to call him

2129
01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:39,880
Speaker 7: Nick Dorner three. So maybe those corner threes are knocking.

2130
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:45,480
Speaker 7: He's knocking those down to the end and that helps you. Yeah,

2131
01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:47,640
Speaker 7: so I got to give all the credit to the

2132
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,679
Speaker 7: fantastic IU social media teams are coming up with that one.

2133
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:52,680
Speaker 7: But no, I mean you're right, Kevin. If he could

2134
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 7: start knocking down those shots, that that changes the whole

2135
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 7: dynamic of everything. I don't know how Degrees is going

2136
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 7: to go with the starting lineup, if if Tayton Connorway

2137
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:03,639
Speaker 7: is going to be healthy enough to start. He's battling

2138
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Speaker 7: a bit of an ankle issue, but he does. I mean,

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Speaker 7: he does need to be out there because connor wayh's

2140
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 7: a threat and he needs to be out there to

2141
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 7: take away you know, some offensive pressure from Lamar Wilkerson

2142
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:15,679
Speaker 7: and Tucker Degrees and things of that nature. But yeah,

2143
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:18,680
Speaker 7: if you just get Dorn going and he continues to

2144
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 7: build off of what he did against Rutgers, that is

2145
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 7: going to just make this team even more difficult to defend.

2146
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:26,799
Speaker 7: The other thing I really loved Kevin about the Rutgers

2147
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 7: performance was when Rutgers started to make a run, Indiana

2148
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 7: pushed the lead to twenty and Rutgers very quickly cut

2149
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:35,040
Speaker 7: that down to twelve. And that would have been in

2150
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:38,559
Speaker 7: the past where Indiana might struggle to, you know, push

2151
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:41,000
Speaker 7: the lead back up and respond. They did not do that.

2152
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 7: They did not struggle to respond. They immediately found a

2153
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 7: way to get that lead back up to even higher

2154
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 7: and eventually win the game by twenty three and win

2155
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:51,640
Speaker 7: a game at Rutgers where Indiana has not been successful.

2156
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 7: Let's face that Indiana has struggled at Rutgers in recent years.

2157
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:56,679
Speaker 7: That was their first win at Rutgers since the twenty

2158
01:41:56,720 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 7: seventeen eighteen year. So that's definitely the confidence type of

2159
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:04,639
Speaker 7: building win that you needed to have going into tonight's game.

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Speaker 5: John, how would you evaluate the season that Lamar Wilkerson

2161
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:11,160
Speaker 5: is having and when you talk about trying to get

2162
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:13,439
Speaker 5: some of these Markey wins picked up, I feel like

2163
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:16,440
Speaker 5: it's going to take perhaps some of those hero performances

2164
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:18,280
Speaker 5: that we've seen from him throughout the season.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you're right there, James. But also I

2166
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 7: think what has to happen is he has to start well.

2167
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 7: And then if once he starts well and he starts

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01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 7: taking attention away on the defense, that's just going to

2169
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 7: open things up for you know, Nick dor And it's

2170
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 7: going to open things up for Tucker Devrees, It's going

2171
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:39,799
Speaker 7: to open things up for Tayton Connorway and other guys

2172
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 7: like that. And then you know, then what happens too

2173
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 7: is you get so concerned about what the perimeter is doing,

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01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:49,720
Speaker 7: You get so concerned about what Wilkerson and Debrees are

2175
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 7: doing on the perimeter that you see Sam Alexis get

2176
01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:55,719
Speaker 7: opened for a dunk, Reed Bailey get open for a dunk.

2177
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:58,639
Speaker 7: So those are it just it all seems to start

2178
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 7: with Wilkerson and flow from there. And I think that's

2179
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 7: what you're going to see tonight is they're going to

2180
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 7: try to get Wilkerson involved early, and his speed and

2181
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 7: his quick release on the shot that shots that he

2182
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,680
Speaker 7: takes are going to be important. It's also going to

2183
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 7: be important to see Tucker Devrez continue to do what

2184
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 7: he's doing. Before the Rutgers game, he was struggling and

2185
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 7: to see him get back on track and get a

2186
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:21,800
Speaker 7: double double. Very big for him in this basketball team.

2187
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 1: John, did I miss this? And I, unfortunately, I feel

2188
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:27,800
Speaker 1: like IU fans were just still basketing the Gloria week

2189
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:30,639
Speaker 1: ago today that the Michigan game was on the back burner.

2190
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:33,320
Speaker 1: Did I hear Don Fisher tell JMV that he missed

2191
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 1: his flight to ann Arbor?

2192
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:39,639
Speaker 7: Well, if he told him that, I guess the cats

2193
01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:42,760
Speaker 7: out of the bag. Yeah, I look, it was a

2194
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 7: crazy time.

2195
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 1: Oh sure.

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01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 7: We were all up until about three in the morning

2197
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 7: the night before, hugging and high five and having some

2198
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 7: adult beverages. It was quite a night. And I thought

2199
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:55,759
Speaker 7: he was fine. I thought he got to the airport

2200
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:59,639
Speaker 7: on time. And then Susie, his wife, Susie came over

2201
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:02,720
Speaker 7: and said, hey, Don missed his connecting flight, so we

2202
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 7: have to figure out an alternate plan. And then Brendan

2203
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 7: Goolik stepped in and did a very good job. And

2204
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:09,720
Speaker 7: Brendan's a good friend of mine. Actually, Brendan and I

2205
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:12,240
Speaker 7: worked in Oklahoma at the same time. We worked in

2206
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:14,720
Speaker 7: the same state, did broadcasting in different ways. So when

2207
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 7: I heard that Brendan was gonna make the drive over

2208
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:20,240
Speaker 7: from Cleveland on kind of an emergency basis there. I

2209
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 7: was actually kind of relieved to hear that because I

2210
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 7: knew he would do a good job. But yeah, I

2211
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:27,599
Speaker 7: mean sometimes in life and then broadcasting that happens, and

2212
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 7: you got to roll with the punches and and we

2213
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:32,639
Speaker 7: did just tat. But yeah, what what a crazy time

2214
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 7: last week was?

2215
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 1: That is incredible? So what does Brendan do play by playwise?

2216
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:38,800
Speaker 1: What what's his full time gig?

2217
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 7: I think he's done a lot of stuff for Cincinnati,

2218
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:44,760
Speaker 7: like the Cincinnati Bearcats and things of that nature. And

2219
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:47,679
Speaker 7: he also does a lot of writing for online publications too,

2220
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:48,679
Speaker 7: so he's very versatile.

2221
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:49,599
Speaker 1: So did he with Eric?

2222
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 2: Then? Yes he did?

2223
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Eric travel with the team there. That is too

2224
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:59,360
Speaker 1: too funny? Okay, well, and you well end with this, gosh,

2225
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't know a stupid question. Will you remember the

2226
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:04,639
Speaker 1: Omar Cooper catch against Penn State more the D'Angelo pons

2227
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 1: picked six more?

2228
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 7: That's a great question. I I think I'm gonna remember

2229
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 7: the d' angelo hans picked six a little bit more.

2230
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 7: I'll give the slide edge to that. And here's why,

2231
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 7: because the how loud it got at the Peach Bowl

2232
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 7: the second he intercepted that pass and ran it back

2233
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:29,759
Speaker 7: for a touchdown. That was a roar of a crowd

2234
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 7: and the feeling I'll never forget. Uh, the Oldmark Cooper

2235
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 7: catch was legendary and will always be remembered. But I

2236
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 7: thought once once Fernando Mendoza got sacked, but he got

2237
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:43,639
Speaker 7: back up and he threw a first down to Cooper

2238
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:46,440
Speaker 7: and then he threw a big pass to Riley Nowakowski

2239
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 7: and then Charlie Becker. I just had the confidence that

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01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 7: once he got going on that drive, that Indiana was

2241
01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 7: going to score. But you don't expect on the first

2242
01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:57,960
Speaker 7: play of the game that Dante Moore is going to

2243
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 7: get intercepted by the Angelo Pons. I still can't believe

2244
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 7: that he decided to try de Angelo Pons on the

2245
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 7: first play of the game, and yet he did. And

2246
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 7: because of that, I think that's going to be far

2247
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 7: more memorable to me. And just hearing how loud who's

2248
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 7: your Nation got at the Peach Bowl something I'm not

2249
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:15,080
Speaker 7: going to ever forget.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's truly it was deafening. And I

2251
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:20,600
Speaker 1: hate to put anything in a key smart you know,

2252
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 1: sort of Christian Watford realm, but you know there are

2253
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:26,000
Speaker 1: several moments that deserve I think to be in that

2254
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 1: same sort of breath when it comes to IU athletics, John,

2255
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 1: congrats on a great year. I know it's super busy

2256
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 1: when those two overlapped a whole whole lot. Safe travels

2257
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:35,920
Speaker 1: down to Bloomington tonight and we will be lighting the

2258
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 1: midnight oil with you.

2259
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 7: All right, sounds great, Thank you, buddy.

2260
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:42,000
Speaker 1: That is the WIBC news director, and of course you

2261
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 1: hear him alongside Don Fisher and Eric Sewer. He is

2262
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 1: John Herrick. Dumb question, Ponds Cooper. I don't think it's

2263
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 1: a dumb question. I'll probably lean towards Cooper. Cooper the

2264
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:55,799
Speaker 1: more obviously athletic feat.

2265
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:57,559
Speaker 4: That's probably why I'm rolling with it.

2266
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 1: The playoff magnitude for there just there is something about

2267
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:03,479
Speaker 1: the first play of the game, you know.

2268
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's something about maintaining that undefeated season.

2269
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:09,800
Speaker 1: Boy in that Cooper catch, I went back and watch

2270
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 1: it yesterday, James, all of it, the actual catch, the

2271
01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 1: athleticism to know where he is on the field, get

2272
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:20,960
Speaker 1: the toe down, and if I watch it again, I

2273
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 1: mean I thought that might have been good on Sundays.

2274
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:27,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you got both yout dow he's gonna

2275
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 4: be getting some nice money.

2276
01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 1: What do you hear pretty some round three or did

2277
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:32,360
Speaker 1: he bumping a round two?

2278
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 5: Maybe round three? But hey, I wouldn't be surprised if

2279
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 5: he does get a stock raised again.

2280
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:40,439
Speaker 1: Dan Brugler, we played that clip earlier. That was back

2281
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:42,559
Speaker 1: in November. He shared with us he felt like Cooper

2282
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:44,360
Speaker 1: was a top one hundred guy. Top hundred is the

2283
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 1: first three rounds, you know, it's top what sixty I

2284
01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 1: guess would be into round two. So we'll continue to

2285
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 1: monitor that's and I assume he will be a Combine

2286
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:57,120
Speaker 1: invite here coming up in less than a month. Rick

2287
01:47:57,160 --> 01:47:59,719
Speaker 1: Carlisle would join us in fifteen. I'll continue to stress

2288
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 1: to I just think it's so vital who commits to

2289
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:04,639
Speaker 1: who more.

2290
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:05,280
Speaker 4: In that defensive end.

2291
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:07,799
Speaker 1: And by that I mean this, you know again, Trey Kaufman,

2292
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:09,400
Speaker 1: w Ren and Tucker to Rees. If you were going

2293
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:12,360
Speaker 1: to rank the positions, both of them would be labeled

2294
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:15,639
Speaker 1: kind of as the power forwards of these respective teams

2295
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 1: guarding each other. I think are major questions for each

2296
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:21,320
Speaker 1: of them. You know, produce has been hurt by the teams.

2297
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:23,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you're online night with a poster child of it,

2298
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:27,160
Speaker 1: of a team that can really stretch the floor and

2299
01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:30,160
Speaker 1: make those bigs come away from the basket, whereas Tucker

2300
01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:33,400
Speaker 1: to Rees. Guarding anyone has been a question this year

2301
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:37,600
Speaker 1: for Indiana and the whole twos versus threes. You know,

2302
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 1: I used to want to cuss at Mike Bray like

2303
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 1: none other when he refused to double the post it

2304
01:48:43,479 --> 01:48:45,680
Speaker 1: notre dame in time and time again. He'd come in

2305
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:47,600
Speaker 1: the media room afterwards and he get asked about it,

2306
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 1: and he go, I'm no math major, but isn't two

2307
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:53,920
Speaker 1: better than three for the defensive aspect of it?

2308
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 2: You know?

2309
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:58,640
Speaker 1: Does is that something that you know Indiana you know,

2310
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:02,200
Speaker 1: looks at tonight as they are trying to guard and obviously, uh,

2311
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 1: you know Purdue, you know, how do they defend? Is

2312
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:07,040
Speaker 1: it more Jack Benter? Is it less? Can they play

2313
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:09,200
Speaker 1: Kaufman Er in cleft together? I think that's just a

2314
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:10,640
Speaker 1: huge storyline for tonight.

2315
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:15,400
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I'm excited to see again. To John's point,

2316
01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:18,840
Speaker 4: can the Hoosiers get off to a strong start, Can

2317
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:21,800
Speaker 4: Lamark Wilkerson get going early, Ken Tucker Derees get going

2318
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:24,439
Speaker 4: early and give themselves a chance to kind of hang

2319
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:26,599
Speaker 4: with p due put some pressure on them and then

2320
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 4: you know, like we always say, last five minutes of

2321
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 4: the game, if it's close, see who can win it.

2322
01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 1: And again he's been in those situations up five and

2323
01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 1: up six, I know, and they last kind of wilted

2324
01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:38,639
Speaker 1: the last couple times two games heading in that final

2325
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:39,360
Speaker 1: media timeout.

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01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 5: But boy, I still would love to have Bradon Smith

2327
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:44,679
Speaker 5: and everyone of those situations sure against him too often.

2328
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:45,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the threes that have been

2329
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 1: hit against him. Ucla had the two obviously, I only

2330
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:49,840
Speaker 1: had a slew.

2331
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:51,640
Speaker 4: Of I mean threes in a row, and like the

2332
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:52,880
Speaker 4: last minute of the game, and.

2333
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,960
Speaker 1: Wackler was only what or was Wackler any of them?

2334
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 5: I don't think so right that he had got to

2335
01:49:57,880 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 5: the point of distributing at that point.

2336
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 1: Shout out to Ja Davi, the Indie product. He was

2337
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:03,799
Speaker 1: one of them on that Oh yeah, big time there

2338
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 1: So again nine o'clock tonights for Indian and Purdue. Mark Dykedon.

2339
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Speaker 1: Before we get to Rick Carlisle, let's check it out.

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Speaker 1: Slashing Indeed, boy, it'll be a big one tomorrow for

2345
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:31,720
Speaker 1: the Butler Bulldogs. Speaking of old Horizon action. There they

2346
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:35,639
Speaker 1: are at Saint John's a bad model potentially tomorrow. We'll

2347
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:38,559
Speaker 1: continue to keep you updated on that. But James, let's

2348
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 1: go back to yesterday afternoon down there in the at

2349
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:44,040
Speaker 1: l and it was Rick Carlisle wanting to keep this

2350
01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 1: team around a little longer. In that postgame locker room,

2351
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 1: decided to show them the end of that third quarter yesterday,

2352
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 1: a sixteen point halftime lead turned into a fifteen point loss.

2353
01:50:55,479 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 4: That is a one to four road trip for the Pacers. Yeah,

2354
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:00,360
Speaker 4: I believe they still have the second worst rec in

2355
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 4: the NBA. So depending on how you view it, it

2356
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:05,759
Speaker 4: could be a bad pacer season or a good pacer season.

2357
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:06,880
Speaker 4: It ended up with top five pick.

2358
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 1: Goodn to see Bennick matherin back yesterday. He was outstanding

2359
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:14,200
Speaker 1: in the first half, had sixteen points off the bench,

2360
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:17,000
Speaker 1: was zero for three in the second half. He was

2361
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:19,800
Speaker 1: a part of the Pacers issues there and that one

2362
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:21,839
Speaker 1: getting away from him. But first time back in eleven

2363
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 1: games missed for mathering with that thumb injury. Was wearing

2364
01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:26,439
Speaker 1: a little bit of a you know, wrap brace thing

2365
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:29,120
Speaker 1: on that right thumb of his. So Pacers will take

2366
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:32,559
Speaker 1: on the Bulls tomorrow. I think it's Atlanta again on

2367
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 1: Saturday here in Indie, and again we are about a

2368
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:39,439
Speaker 1: week out from the NBA trade deadline coming up a

2369
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 1: week from Thursday. As you mentioned IU and Purdue tonight.

2370
01:51:44,360 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 1: Oh wait, just kind of the injury report. I know

2371
01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 1: some people have asked us even this morning about Trey

2372
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:52,000
Speaker 1: Kaufman ran in that hip injury, James. It's something that

2373
01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:54,000
Speaker 1: you know early in the season when he missed that game.

2374
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:56,720
Speaker 1: I forget who was against, but you know, he made

2375
01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 1: a very clear back then there was someone certainly about

2376
01:51:59,080 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 1: the hip.

2377
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:00,760
Speaker 4: They were kind of sure about things.

2378
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 1: Mick Cronin, I know, had some quotes after the UCLA

2379
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:06,400
Speaker 1: game saying, he clearly does not look right to me.

2380
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 1: I don't believe he was on the injury report for

2381
01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:12,160
Speaker 1: the Illinois game, and then bringing to his ankle. You know,

2382
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 1: just he looked fine once he got back in the

2383
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 1: game on Sunday or on Saturday. Was any of that

2384
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:23,679
Speaker 1: adrenaline adrenaline related other stuff from me. Senior Bowl starts

2385
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:25,800
Speaker 1: this week, so you'll see some colts contingent down there,

2386
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:30,920
Speaker 1: Elijah Surat, Kaylon Black, the Indiana representation down there in Mobile.

2387
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:33,880
Speaker 1: And last night college hoops, you did get a lot

2388
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:37,680
Speaker 1: of NBA talent. Duke absolutely thrashing Louisville mckel brown for

2389
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:41,439
Speaker 1: Louisville really struggled from the field, shouts Ryan Conwell. That dude,

2390
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what his future looks like, but he

2391
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 1: has been a bucket getter at every level of college basketball.

2392
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 1: For him, he played very well last night. Cameron Boozer

2393
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,160
Speaker 1: very good. And then that second game James, I know

2394
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:55,519
Speaker 1: aj Debants a struggle, but man, I was blown away

2395
01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 1: by Arizona. They got some dudes.

2396
01:52:57,640 --> 01:53:00,000
Speaker 5: The fact that they're still undefeated in a major conference,

2397
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 5: like you said earlier, Kevin, with only a couple of

2398
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:06,040
Speaker 5: days left in January, they are no joking.

2399
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 4: Perhaps they will be here come final four time.

2400
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:17,160
Speaker 1: So are undefeated's left? Arizona Nebraska, right, I believe so yes,

2401
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:23,599
Speaker 1: Arizona twenty oh, Nebraska at twenty oh and then Miami Miami,

2402
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 1: Ohio still at twenty and oh, by the way, shout

2403
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:29,880
Speaker 1: out to remember Josh shirts at Indiana State. Yes, the

2404
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:33,120
Speaker 1: Saint Louis Billikins are nineteen and one.

2405
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 4: Maybe one in.

2406
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:39,559
Speaker 1: The ape pole here, he's got goggles still in the team.

2407
01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 4: Hey, ain't not wrong with that.

2408
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:43,160
Speaker 1: Robbie a Via remember him?

2409
01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 4: Yes, he was like a fan favorite there.

2410
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:48,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're very balanced Saint Louis. I actually watched a

2411
01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 1: little bit of their game a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,

2412
01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:52,120
Speaker 1: they're a team that I feel I can spoil somebody's

2413
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:55,920
Speaker 1: March and nineteen and one close lost to Stanford being

2414
01:53:55,960 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 1: their only defeats of the season there, so their team

2415
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:02,840
Speaker 1: to watch it. I guess Atlantic ten for them. It's

2416
01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 1: actually pretty nice college basketball slate tonight. I think one

2417
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 1: of the more interesting games we talk about undefeated Nebraska.

2418
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:12,639
Speaker 1: They are a ten and a half point underdog tonight

2419
01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:17,320
Speaker 1: against Michigan. How about that hole defeated and you're a

2420
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:19,160
Speaker 1: ten and a half point underdog.

2421
01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:22,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that doesn't seem right, but also it speaks to

2422
01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 4: the level of competition in the Big Ten.

2423
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:27,000
Speaker 1: So if you are looking for your viewing tonight, that

2424
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 1: will be the first game on Peacocks and Nebraska rank

2425
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 1: five at number three. Michigan to get Michigan favored by

2426
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:34,880
Speaker 1: ten and a half. That's your seven o'clock tip. You'll

2427
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 1: have Purdue in Indiana. Then to follow that on Peacock there,

2428
01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 1: I see that line is now climb five and a

2429
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 1: half for Purdue in Indiana. So Purdue favored by five

2430
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:47,640
Speaker 1: and a half in that one, and Greg, Greg Shaw

2431
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:50,120
Speaker 1: and I our annual trip up US thirty one. You

2432
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:52,160
Speaker 1: guys heard Rake on Friday. He told me not to

2433
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 1: buy him the Mountain dew right.

2434
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:55,920
Speaker 4: He's trying to make that choices now?

2435
01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:57,800
Speaker 1: Is that one of those things like your wife telling

2436
01:54:57,840 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 1: you don't get or anything for a certain holiday.

2437
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 4: Did you ever fall for that?

2438
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:06,520
Speaker 1: Well, I if you fall for once, if you fall

2439
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:08,160
Speaker 1: for twice, you might not see a third, if you

2440
01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:13,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Should I fall for that?

2441
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:14,560
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2442
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:17,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to, like Rake said, he doesn't you know,

2443
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:19,400
Speaker 1: he's trying to do it. I guess a little dry

2444
01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 1: January Almo. Yeah, I don't want to like be a

2445
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 1: bad influence, right, But I also want to show the

2446
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,200
Speaker 1: man the respect he deserves. I mean, I hold Rake

2447
01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:28,880
Speaker 1: in high regard.

2448
01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 5: I think you get it and you tell him, hey,

2449
01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:33,840
Speaker 5: just put it on ice for a while there, and

2450
01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 5: when you've earned it, or you feel like you've earned.

2451
01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:37,360
Speaker 4: It, cracked that thing open?

2452
01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 1: Was it one of my kids with a piece of

2453
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:41,960
Speaker 1: candy here after church one day?

2454
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:44,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, when you put it like that, my grandma has

2455
01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:47,320
Speaker 5: some nasty candy in that purse. Shout out to grandma.

2456
01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:50,600
Speaker 1: Boy Rick Carlisle joins us on the other side.

2457
01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:52,000
Speaker 4: How long has been in here?

2458
01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:55,600
Speaker 1: Jesus was walking around when you had this candy? Can

2459
01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:57,440
Speaker 1: I get an a man? Kevin Bow and James Boyd,

2460
01:55:57,440 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 1: Mark Dyke.

2461
01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 4: No.

2462
01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 9: As you were listening to the Fan Morning show on

2463
01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:13,000
Speaker 9: Sports Radio ninety three to five and one oh seven

2464
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 9: five the Fan, Rick.

2465
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:20,840
Speaker 1: Carlisle and a few boy Mark Dyden, that Cluster truck

2466
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:24,760
Speaker 1: it is open today and does that taste good?

2467
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:29,920
Speaker 3: M Devin Brave the Cold Brave the Morning check Down.

2468
01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:32,400
Speaker 3: Because he's like, we're here. I'm like, oh, hold on,

2469
01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 3: give me a.

2470
01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 1: Few Yeah, Evan share all that is on us, Big Fan,

2471
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:39,240
Speaker 1: your promo code there at Cluster Truck outstanding and that

2472
01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 1: food's still hot and I know he's been waiting outside,

2473
01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 1: so apologies on that Big Fan your promo code. We

2474
01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:46,800
Speaker 1: did that tailgate special for the National title game a

2475
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 1: week ago, tremendous, so football time. We got one big

2476
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:53,920
Speaker 1: game left. That tailgate special will be very popular with

2477
01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:56,680
Speaker 1: a couple of large pizzas, two pounds of chicken strips

2478
01:56:57,280 --> 01:57:01,960
Speaker 1: from cluster truck there. Uh Rick Carlisle here in a

2479
01:57:02,120 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 1: few You think Rick Carlole did it snow days back

2480
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:06,640
Speaker 1: in the day. That man grew up in like upstate,

2481
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:07,640
Speaker 1: upstate New York.

2482
01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm very curious to actually know his perspective on this.

2483
01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 5: You got to give us the speech back in my day.

2484
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 1: I bet he's got a strong opinion on it.

2485
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:18,120
Speaker 4: He probably does.

2486
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:19,520
Speaker 1: You think he's a n ee learning guy. I mean

2487
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:21,840
Speaker 1: he's such a smart individual. I mean went to a

2488
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:24,200
Speaker 1: great institution in Uva. Oh, I guess I'm going to

2489
01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:26,240
Speaker 1: see his alma moter tonight. Should I bring that up?

2490
01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:28,960
Speaker 3: Why not? You definitely should see if he wants to

2491
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:30,880
Speaker 3: tackle on you want to be a third wheel.

2492
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 1: To me and Ray? Should we invite him?

2493
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:35,520
Speaker 3: You should look at that now, nothing better to do.

2494
01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:38,280
Speaker 3: I'd have to go back seat. Right, there's no way

2495
01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:39,960
Speaker 3: you're not letting him have shotgun?

2496
01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:42,520
Speaker 5: Well, I mean from a hype perspective. Yeah, even though

2497
01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:45,040
Speaker 5: you're tall for the average man. Rick Carlo, I might

2498
01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:45,920
Speaker 5: have you a little beat there.

2499
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:49,760
Speaker 1: Rick Carlisle is a legit six', five, yeah, Legit LIKE

2500
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:52,240
Speaker 1: i see everyone's About Diego Pavias hith right. Now if

2501
01:57:52,280 --> 01:57:54,720
Speaker 1: you guys seen that five foot, nine he is shorter than.

2502
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 1: You boy measured in The Senior bowl five to Nine.

2503
01:57:57,400 --> 01:57:59,320
Speaker 3: Vanderbilt he there's no way he's five to nine. EITHER

2504
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:01,960
Speaker 3: i feel like that's that's already day, Day.

2505
01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 1: MARK i, MEAN i don't think it's enough.

2506
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:06,320
Speaker 3: Ficial how tall are, you mister. Dyketon i'm probably right around.

2507
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:07,640
Speaker 3: THERE i BET i tower over.

2508
01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:09,760
Speaker 1: That oh my, Gosh i'm gonna go to.

2509
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:12,400
Speaker 3: The combine just to. See let's go back to back

2510
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:13,120
Speaker 3: that is.

2511
01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:13,880
Speaker 4: True i'm not gonna.

2512
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:16,600
Speaker 5: Lie WHENEVER i am at the combine AND i walk

2513
01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 5: past the, PLAYER i do kind of think to, myself, like,

2514
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:21,480
Speaker 5: oh you're not really as tall as you.

2515
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:23,320
Speaker 4: SAY i feel the.

2516
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:26,919
Speaker 5: Same way in THE nba WHEN i cover a PACER's

2517
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:29,080
Speaker 5: game And i'm in the back hallway or, Something mark

2518
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:31,280
Speaker 5: AND i walk, past Like Trey, young And i'm, like

2519
01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:32,400
Speaker 5: there's no way you're six to.

2520
01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:35,400
Speaker 1: Two there's just no. Way you, know who's a lot

2521
01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:40,960
Speaker 1: taller in? Person Is Tyr salburn like he is also

2522
01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:43,600
Speaker 1: a legit like six or. Five maybe it's his, limb

2523
01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:45,720
Speaker 1: like he's a Long i'm gonna, SAY i think when you're,

2524
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:49,360
Speaker 1: skinny you look taller because of. It, yeah no one's

2525
01:58:49,360 --> 01:58:51,360
Speaker 1: ever said that about, me but, yeah.

2526
01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:54,600
Speaker 5: Like does his bill and make him look taller THAN

2527
01:58:54,640 --> 01:58:55,880
Speaker 5: i don't know who else is six' five in THE,

2528
01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:57,680
Speaker 5: nba but, Yeah Bettanick.

2529
01:58:57,720 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 1: Mathern, yeah if.

2530
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:02,240
Speaker 5: You look at him And halliburn next to each, other

2531
01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:03,160
Speaker 5: you would think The haliburn's.

2532
01:59:03,200 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 1: Taller BUT i, mean No colts fan probably wants to

2533
01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:07,920
Speaker 1: hear this or you, know cares about. It BUT i

2534
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:10,600
Speaker 1: will always remember being at that Combine james WHEN i

2535
01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 1: think it WAS. Cj stroud was at the, podium Then

2536
01:59:12,840 --> 01:59:16,120
Speaker 1: richardson was right after. Him, boy and When richardson walk

2537
01:59:16,200 --> 01:59:19,560
Speaker 1: up to the, PODIUM i thought to, myself defensive ends

2538
01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:20,960
Speaker 1: aren't supposed to talk until, tomorrow?

2539
01:59:21,080 --> 01:59:24,280
Speaker 4: Right that was? Crazy and LIKE.

2540
01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 1: Cj stroud's not Diego pavia mm hm was he six

2541
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:33,080
Speaker 1: to two six three? Something? That But anthony looked like

2542
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:35,000
Speaker 1: A greek? God oh, yeah, which by the, way.

2543
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:37,480
Speaker 4: Do you see him playing? Basketball see that? Video he

2544
01:59:37,560 --> 01:59:39,760
Speaker 4: went viral he was playing. Basketball what the goggles?

2545
01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:41,320
Speaker 1: On goggles? On if you're A.

2546
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 5: Ymca, man that man loves, hoop he. DOES i was

2547
01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:47,720
Speaker 5: thinking to, myself, brother make good choices, now.

2548
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 3: Now jamb give him an? Invite Ever oh.

2549
01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:54,040
Speaker 1: Boy now you were in THE ymca when he was,

2550
01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:55,840
Speaker 1: playing but you were not on the floor with. Him

2551
01:59:55,880 --> 01:59:59,520
Speaker 1: is that? CORRECT i actually played against, him but you

2552
01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:01,840
Speaker 1: didn't get near. Him was that? Way we were.

2553
02:00:01,680 --> 02:00:04,720
Speaker 5: Guarding each other AND i did not guard him BECAUSE

2554
02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:06,800
Speaker 5: i was thinking to myself at the, time he was

2555
02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:07,280
Speaker 5: the face of the.

2556
02:00:07,280 --> 02:00:09,600
Speaker 4: Franchise could you imagine it comes down on my?

2557
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:12,040
Speaker 1: Foot you cared more about that versus him Going Patrick

2558
02:00:12,040 --> 02:00:13,280
Speaker 1: Beverly mouse in the house on.

2559
02:00:13,320 --> 02:00:15,880
Speaker 4: You, well it was twofold.

2560
02:00:16,040 --> 02:00:18,360
Speaker 5: One you're not gonna dunk on me and that video

2561
02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:22,400
Speaker 5: lives in forever and then. Two imagine you dunk on

2562
02:00:22,480 --> 02:00:25,120
Speaker 5: me and you land on my foot and then you're

2563
02:00:25,120 --> 02:00:26,000
Speaker 5: out for the started training.

2564
02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:26,600
Speaker 1: Camp, OH i was.

2565
02:00:26,680 --> 02:00:31,840
Speaker 4: Terrified that's my store And i'm sticking to it, today.

2566
02:00:31,600 --> 02:00:33,760
Speaker 1: Thirty five years ago? Today is that The Bob knight.

2567
02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:37,600
Speaker 1: Ran i'm tired of losing To. Purdue play in the

2568
02:00:37,640 --> 02:00:41,480
Speaker 1: pre game. Tonight you guys have heard, that, right the. Secretly,

2569
02:00:42,080 --> 02:00:44,000
Speaker 1: yes that would be. Hilarious, YEAH i THINK i think

2570
02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:47,040
Speaker 1: you guys have something up on, it uh on the athletics.

2571
02:00:47,040 --> 02:00:49,400
Speaker 3: Website play that and then Have signetti come out and

2572
02:00:49,440 --> 02:00:51,040
Speaker 3: say produce sucks write a pre.

2573
02:00:51,120 --> 02:00:53,360
Speaker 1: GAME i THINK i Think signetti on the mic tonight's a.

2574
02:00:53,440 --> 02:00:55,800
Speaker 1: Must and now the key is just when do you do?

2575
02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:59,160
Speaker 1: IT i think For indiana to have a legit chance,

2576
02:00:59,160 --> 02:01:02,000
Speaker 1: tonight they need to on the. Mic do you need a?

2577
02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:03,400
Speaker 3: Halftime though maybe second?

2578
02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:06,760
Speaker 1: Half too many people are in that are on the

2579
02:01:06,760 --> 02:01:08,400
Speaker 1: concourse and Now i'm talking second you, KNOW i know

2580
02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:10,280
Speaker 1: the under eight time, out it's always very infamous to

2581
02:01:10,280 --> 02:01:13,320
Speaker 1: get the flags down there In. Bloomington, YEAH i don't

2582
02:01:13,320 --> 02:01:15,040
Speaker 1: know if you can wait till the under four time,

2583
02:01:15,080 --> 02:01:19,800
Speaker 1: out but, yeah him on the, mic absolute, must absolute

2584
02:01:19,880 --> 02:01:20,160
Speaker 1: must on.

2585
02:01:20,200 --> 02:01:23,160
Speaker 4: There should get the juices storm for.

2586
02:01:23,200 --> 02:01:28,440
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah definitely on. That all, Right, WELL i.

2587
02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:32,040
Speaker 5: Mean another THING i wanted to hit. On we're talking

2588
02:01:32,040 --> 02:01:37,360
Speaker 5: about The colts, earlier and one of the issues That

2589
02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:42,000
Speaker 5: i've had when evaluating this TEAM kb is WHEN i

2590
02:01:42,040 --> 02:01:46,520
Speaker 5: look at where these teams are that are going to

2591
02:01:46,520 --> 02:01:49,680
Speaker 5: The Super bowl and where The colts, are AND i

2592
02:01:49,720 --> 02:01:51,960
Speaker 5: can't get that statement from ballot out of my head

2593
02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:53,720
Speaker 5: of them being a top four. TEAM i can't believe

2594
02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:56,440
Speaker 5: they were a TOP fourt team in THE. Nfl how

2595
02:01:56,480 --> 02:01:58,320
Speaker 5: do you get back to that? Feeling BECAUSE i feel

2596
02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:00,160
Speaker 5: like so much has to change this, offseason but you

2597
02:02:00,160 --> 02:02:03,160
Speaker 5: don't have necessarily the biggest means to do so.

2598
02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:06,320
Speaker 1: WELL i said To Joel, erickson we HadAM on yesterday

2599
02:02:07,720 --> 02:02:09,880
Speaker 1: because you can't run it? Back is it like you

2600
02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:12,880
Speaker 1: can't run it? Back like WHEN i hear younger and faster? Defensively,

2601
02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:15,920
Speaker 1: okay what does that now look? Like free agency? WISE

2602
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:18,480
Speaker 1: i kind of look at the off season and, say

2603
02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:20,680
Speaker 1: can you find a starting defensive end opposite lot? Too

2604
02:02:21,280 --> 02:02:25,960
Speaker 1: and then a new? Linebacker? Like is that where you

2605
02:02:26,040 --> 02:02:33,360
Speaker 1: start the off season? Again roster? Improvement, Basically i'm asking

2606
02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:36,920
Speaker 1: for can you go out there and find A cambine

2607
02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:41,680
Speaker 1: them And Shaver's ward of the front? Seven last year and,

2608
02:02:41,800 --> 02:02:45,120
Speaker 1: again let's put The ward situation to the. Side with the,

2609
02:02:45,160 --> 02:02:49,880
Speaker 1: concussion you found two impactful guys in the secondary In

2610
02:02:49,960 --> 02:02:52,400
Speaker 1: Mooney ward And Cambine. Them can you do the same

2611
02:02:52,440 --> 02:02:54,880
Speaker 1: now in the front, seven one at defensive, end one at?

2612
02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:57,400
Speaker 1: Linebacker now what it makes it? Difficult as we sit

2613
02:02:57,440 --> 02:02:59,000
Speaker 1: here right, now a month and a half away from free.

2614
02:02:59,000 --> 02:03:02,680
Speaker 1: Agency is how readily available? Is that is a little

2615
02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:04,800
Speaker 1: bit harder without the first. Round think Now las year

2616
02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:06,440
Speaker 1: the first round pick with The Tyler warren.

2617
02:03:06,520 --> 02:03:08,520
Speaker 4: Right but question will.

2618
02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:15,160
Speaker 1: Pick but the the cap space this, offseason it's a

2619
02:03:15,160 --> 02:03:17,240
Speaker 1: little differ when you talking About Daniel jones And Alc pearce,

2620
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:21,520
Speaker 1: right and again how you create that and all. That

2621
02:03:21,560 --> 02:03:24,800
Speaker 1: by the, WAY i totally misread my text Where carlis

2622
02:03:24,800 --> 02:03:27,880
Speaker 1: will join us. Tomorrow apologies on that. Front that's totally on.

2623
02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:28,920
Speaker 2: ME i.

2624
02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:31,640
Speaker 1: Dropped thank, You, Mark.

2625
02:03:32,320 --> 02:03:34,640
Speaker 4: You know, what you might need some e learning for.

2626
02:03:34,720 --> 02:03:36,920
Speaker 4: Punishment we need to get you.

2627
02:03:37,120 --> 02:03:38,640
Speaker 3: Sitting here walking To South bend.

2628
02:03:38,640 --> 02:03:41,480
Speaker 1: Now NOT i can distinctly remember WHERE i. WAS i

2629
02:03:41,520 --> 02:03:43,720
Speaker 1: was Giving nellie the bottle last. Night when when WHEN

2630
02:03:43,720 --> 02:03:45,960
Speaker 1: i got the text saying Hey rick At wednesday at nine,

2631
02:03:46,120 --> 02:03:48,840
Speaker 1: thirty AND i did just the little thumbs up AND

2632
02:03:48,880 --> 02:03:52,640
Speaker 1: i did the, Oh i'll remember. That do you guys

2633
02:03:52,720 --> 02:03:55,280
Speaker 1: do that like when you say you'll remember it versus

2634
02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:58,400
Speaker 1: like WHAT i oftentimes will do is like screenshot. It,

2635
02:03:58,600 --> 02:04:01,480
Speaker 1: yeah and Then i'll go downstairs And i'll scroll through

2636
02:04:01,480 --> 02:04:03,800
Speaker 1: my pictures and be, Like, Okay what DID i want

2637
02:04:03,800 --> 02:04:06,720
Speaker 1: to jot down on my? Notes? What why did AM

2638
02:04:06,760 --> 02:04:07,440
Speaker 1: i losing brain?

2639
02:04:07,480 --> 02:04:07,880
Speaker 4: Cells you?

2640
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:08,120
Speaker 2: Think?

2641
02:04:09,120 --> 02:04:12,880
Speaker 5: NAH i think you have a young child that probably

2642
02:04:12,880 --> 02:04:14,640
Speaker 5: took a lot of the priority in that.

2643
02:04:14,680 --> 02:04:17,520
Speaker 1: Situation, Man i've never Needed rakestraw more in my life

2644
02:04:17,560 --> 02:04:18,800
Speaker 1: than this five hour.

2645
02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:20,680
Speaker 5: Thing, NOW i will say he's. SOMEBODY i don't think

2646
02:04:20,680 --> 02:04:23,880
Speaker 5: that he ever really does the WHOLE i? Forgot just

2647
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:27,160
Speaker 5: has he forgotten? ANYTHING i don't think SO i was hesitant.

2648
02:04:26,840 --> 02:04:27,280
Speaker 1: To take he?

2649
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:29,440
Speaker 3: Does then't you really know it's not? IMPORTANT i will

2650
02:04:29,480 --> 02:04:31,320
Speaker 3: SAY i made amends With.

2651
02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:33,040
Speaker 4: Rake he, SAID i. DON'T i don't say what's up

2652
02:04:33,080 --> 02:04:33,640
Speaker 4: to him at these?

2653
02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:33,960
Speaker 2: Games?

2654
02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:38,280
Speaker 4: PIKE i, said what's up to my? Boy and he

2655
02:04:38,360 --> 02:04:39,040
Speaker 4: told me about?

2656
02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:42,240
Speaker 1: Time SHOULD i text For carlisle for a little side

2657
02:04:42,240 --> 02:04:44,600
Speaker 1: bet for? Tonight or betting in THE nba is probably

2658
02:04:44,600 --> 02:04:45,680
Speaker 1: not SOMETHING i shouldabble in.

2659
02:04:47,520 --> 02:04:50,280
Speaker 5: One probably shouldn't dabble in that. TOO i don't know

2660
02:04:50,280 --> 02:04:53,240
Speaker 5: if you have the same pockets to be. Betting you,

2661
02:04:53,320 --> 02:04:54,960
Speaker 5: know big bank take little?

2662
02:04:55,000 --> 02:04:55,200
Speaker 4: Bank?

2663
02:04:55,400 --> 02:04:58,960
Speaker 1: What, yeah that's that's an. Understatement, yeah IF i thought

2664
02:04:58,960 --> 02:05:00,640
Speaker 1: mouse in the house for you and Nan Than, richardson

2665
02:05:00,680 --> 02:05:03,760
Speaker 1: it'd be Like Muggsy bogus next To galt and comparing

2666
02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:06,760
Speaker 1: my bank account to? Ricks what do you think about

2667
02:05:06,800 --> 02:05:09,880
Speaker 1: THAT dm? Linebacker so is it? Okay are you going

2668
02:05:09,920 --> 02:05:12,560
Speaker 1: another defensive? Lineman are you going another? Linebacker are you

2669
02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:15,160
Speaker 1: doing something? Else what About Nick cross at? Safety what

2670
02:05:15,160 --> 02:05:15,320
Speaker 1: do you?

2671
02:05:15,360 --> 02:05:16,320
Speaker 4: Think here's my.

2672
02:05:16,400 --> 02:05:20,280
Speaker 5: Issue i'm probably still leaning towards defensive end linebackers like

2673
02:05:20,320 --> 02:05:23,080
Speaker 5: the Two bigs knees to change on defense and.

2674
02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:24,280
Speaker 4: To get younger and, Faster but.

2675
02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:29,680
Speaker 5: You only have so many draft picks right, In assuming

2676
02:05:29,680 --> 02:05:31,240
Speaker 5: that you use a second round pick on a.

2677
02:05:31,200 --> 02:05:32,280
Speaker 4: Defensive, player.

2678
02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:36,000
Speaker 5: Hopefully that player can come right in immediately and be

2679
02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:38,120
Speaker 5: a factor for, you although that didn't happen last year

2680
02:05:38,600 --> 02:05:41,160
Speaker 5: WHEN jt two molo out a second round pick hardly.

2681
02:05:41,200 --> 02:05:46,000
Speaker 5: Played But, kevin my issue is if you want to proven,

2682
02:05:46,040 --> 02:05:49,680
Speaker 5: commodity it's probably in free agency and they're probably not.

2683
02:05:49,720 --> 02:05:52,400
Speaker 5: Young so how do you kind of thread the needle

2684
02:05:52,440 --> 02:05:55,200
Speaker 5: there where you want to get faster and, Younger but

2685
02:05:56,480 --> 02:06:00,000
Speaker 5: the odds of you getting a young good pass rush

2686
02:06:00,040 --> 02:06:02,600
Speaker 5: sure is just not going to happen in free.

2687
02:06:02,440 --> 02:06:06,360
Speaker 1: Agency especially, well, yes and then again hitting on one

2688
02:06:06,480 --> 02:06:08,960
Speaker 1: instantly in the, Draft LIKE i was, Saying So i'm,

2689
02:06:09,040 --> 02:06:12,960
Speaker 1: like how do YOU Jt tumalau And Laotu. LATU i

2690
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:15,320
Speaker 1: think you can make the, Argument, james they were two

2691
02:06:15,320 --> 02:06:18,760
Speaker 1: of the most proven pass rushers we've seen come out

2692
02:06:18,760 --> 02:06:22,960
Speaker 1: in recent. Years Ohio state AND ucla big time sack.

2693
02:06:23,080 --> 02:06:26,480
Speaker 1: Numbers Tuml alou did it throughout their playoff. Runs, yeah

2694
02:06:26,480 --> 02:06:28,520
Speaker 1: he went Off and how many sacks did he have last?

2695
02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:31,480
Speaker 1: Year i'm not even sure was it a one full?

2696
02:06:31,520 --> 02:06:32,280
Speaker 4: Sack if that.

2697
02:06:33,120 --> 02:06:35,640
Speaker 1: Double check me on, That i'm a little nervous it

2698
02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:38,320
Speaker 1: might be the goose egg And lotso had what four

2699
02:06:38,360 --> 02:06:41,560
Speaker 1: in his rookie, Season, Yes SO i mean think about

2700
02:06:41,600 --> 02:06:44,880
Speaker 1: it like. That you, know again those were, not you,

2701
02:06:45,000 --> 02:06:49,560
Speaker 1: know more in the project type of pass, rushers and

2702
02:06:49,600 --> 02:06:54,440
Speaker 1: they zero sex For. Temlau and, again you know that's

2703
02:06:54,480 --> 02:06:56,640
Speaker 1: in a defensive end room that you were begging for

2704
02:06:56,680 --> 02:07:00,400
Speaker 1: someone to truly emerge. There SO i think that's what

2705
02:07:00,480 --> 02:07:04,040
Speaker 1: makes it. Difficult and you, know there's a part of.

2706
02:07:04,040 --> 02:07:07,080
Speaker 1: Me and AGAIN i thought lot Too inntuimlalau probably exemplified

2707
02:07:07,080 --> 02:07:09,480
Speaker 1: this more than recent ballot draft. Picks BUT i do

2708
02:07:09,520 --> 02:07:12,280
Speaker 1: think a little bit of The Kurt signetti philosophy has

2709
02:07:12,320 --> 02:07:14,800
Speaker 1: got to be adopted. Here you, Know signetti says quite

2710
02:07:14,840 --> 02:07:17,760
Speaker 1: often it's production more than, potential AND i get in

2711
02:07:17,840 --> 02:07:20,240
Speaker 1: the draft you walk a little bit of a line

2712
02:07:20,240 --> 02:07:24,040
Speaker 1: when it comes to, that in that you know you obviously.

2713
02:07:24,080 --> 02:07:26,680
Speaker 1: Want you, Know Nick cross is an example of more

2714
02:07:26,680 --> 02:07:29,160
Speaker 1: of a potential, guy and he got there for. You

2715
02:07:29,600 --> 02:07:34,320
Speaker 1: he eventually hit on. That BUT i think this year's

2716
02:07:34,360 --> 02:07:36,240
Speaker 1: draft has got to be, more especially if you want

2717
02:07:36,240 --> 02:07:38,840
Speaker 1: to get the twenty twenty six returns on, It you've

2718
02:07:38,880 --> 02:07:42,280
Speaker 1: got to adopt more of The signetti mindset production over

2719
02:07:42,320 --> 02:07:44,400
Speaker 1: potential when it comes to your draft. Picks AND i

2720
02:07:44,400 --> 02:07:47,080
Speaker 1: think too Often ballad has probably opted for the other

2721
02:07:47,680 --> 02:07:48,840
Speaker 1: potential over.

2722
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:52,960
Speaker 5: Production we'll, see but, boy there's a lot riding on

2723
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:57,040
Speaker 5: whatever decisions you, make because AGAIN i can't sit up

2724
02:07:57,040 --> 02:08:00,320
Speaker 5: here and justify you being in a building. Mode you

2725
02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:04,760
Speaker 5: need to be the team that's already built Come, september

2726
02:08:05,800 --> 02:08:07,680
Speaker 5: because what else are you trying to sell us.

2727
02:08:07,640 --> 02:08:09,720
Speaker 4: On at that? Point what can you sell this fan base?

2728
02:08:09,800 --> 02:08:12,640
Speaker 5: On you said you were a top fourteen before the

2729
02:08:12,680 --> 02:08:16,000
Speaker 5: injuries and all that last, Year then how do you

2730
02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:16,520
Speaker 5: get back to that?

2731
02:08:16,560 --> 02:08:17,880
Speaker 4: Point how do you make yourself a?

2732
02:08:17,920 --> 02:08:23,120
Speaker 5: Contender AND i remember Asking vallad that question and he

2733
02:08:23,200 --> 02:08:28,480
Speaker 5: kind of danced around it a bit because you never

2734
02:08:28,480 --> 02:08:30,640
Speaker 5: want to commit to, anything And i'll give them that

2735
02:08:30,680 --> 02:08:33,280
Speaker 5: you don't want to commit to anything In. January but

2736
02:08:33,840 --> 02:08:36,080
Speaker 5: if you can't commit to yourself being a, contender then

2737
02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:36,480
Speaker 5: what are we?

2738
02:08:36,520 --> 02:08:37,520
Speaker 4: Doing is? For why are you?

2739
02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:42,400
Speaker 5: Here why are they bringing everybody? Back So i'm very

2740
02:08:42,400 --> 02:08:43,080
Speaker 5: curious see what they.

2741
02:08:43,120 --> 02:08:46,600
Speaker 1: Do IF i gave you one area on offense to

2742
02:08:46,720 --> 02:08:48,760
Speaker 1: address with a notable, resource what would that?

2743
02:08:48,840 --> 02:08:51,480
Speaker 4: Be one area on?

2744
02:08:51,720 --> 02:08:57,000
Speaker 1: Offense so much about defense. Notable i'll give you a

2745
02:08:57,040 --> 02:08:59,080
Speaker 1: third round pick on the offense side of the. Ball

2746
02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:01,040
Speaker 1: you would spend it WHERE.

2747
02:09:05,640 --> 02:09:11,280
Speaker 5: I might spend it on a, receiver assuming That pittman's

2748
02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:14,200
Speaker 5: not here next. YEAR i thought.

2749
02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:20,400
Speaker 1: RECEIVER i thought in my mind offensive. Tackle AND i

2750
02:09:20,440 --> 02:09:23,440
Speaker 1: don't think this year you're ready for it quite, Yet,

2751
02:09:23,560 --> 02:09:24,280
Speaker 1: james but.

2752
02:09:26,080 --> 02:09:26,240
Speaker 2: Hm.

2753
02:09:26,640 --> 02:09:29,080
Speaker 1: Man at some POINT i might dabble in another running.

2754
02:09:29,120 --> 02:09:33,240
Speaker 1: Back oh, yeah oh, YEAH i think you just. Again

2755
02:09:33,320 --> 02:09:35,840
Speaker 1: taylor strikes me as a guy that can defy the.

2756
02:09:35,840 --> 02:09:42,520
Speaker 1: Odds but the odds at running Back father time wins every,

2757
02:09:42,560 --> 02:09:44,840
Speaker 1: time every. Time Derek henry is the only one that

2758
02:09:44,840 --> 02:09:48,600
Speaker 1: can wag his finger at. It so, yeah that's one

2759
02:09:48,640 --> 02:09:50,920
Speaker 1: THAT i would think. About BUT i guess answer my own.

2760
02:09:50,960 --> 02:09:53,360
Speaker 1: QUESTION i think, again a lot of the notable resources

2761
02:09:53,400 --> 02:09:56,240
Speaker 1: here will be on the defensive side of the. Ball

2762
02:09:56,280 --> 02:09:56,920
Speaker 1: i'm tipping my.

2763
02:09:56,880 --> 02:09:59,560
Speaker 3: Toe in the quarterback. Room oh, boy.

2764
02:10:01,440 --> 02:10:02,680
Speaker 1: You would draft a quarterback in round?

2765
02:10:02,720 --> 02:10:02,880
Speaker 2: Three?

2766
02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:07,080
Speaker 3: Yeah you, know what are your? ANSWERS i, mean assuming

2767
02:10:07,080 --> 02:10:10,000
Speaker 3: you're Resigning Daniel, jones what are your Projection.

2768
02:10:10,800 --> 02:10:13,200
Speaker 4: Leonard is the future? Here, well that's what they. Say,

2769
02:10:13,360 --> 02:10:15,200
Speaker 4: No i'm. JOKING i see what you're.

2770
02:10:15,240 --> 02:10:15,520
Speaker 2: Saying.

2771
02:10:15,960 --> 02:10:18,880
Speaker 3: Mark they always say at this what is It Bill

2772
02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:21,320
Speaker 3: pollian that said you should take a quarterback every single?

2773
02:10:21,360 --> 02:10:24,360
Speaker 1: Year, YEAH i have adopted that. MINDSET i do think.

2774
02:10:24,360 --> 02:10:27,960
Speaker 1: That but there's part of me that Thinks Riley leonard

2775
02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:32,080
Speaker 1: is now your DEVELOPMENTAL qb for a, year. RIGHT i

2776
02:10:32,080 --> 02:10:33,680
Speaker 1: don't know how many of those like you can, Have,

2777
02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:36,040
Speaker 1: MARK i don't you. KNOW i don't ignore, it but

2778
02:10:37,280 --> 02:10:40,120
Speaker 1: part of me, thinks, Obviously, jones you, know think about,

2779
02:10:40,120 --> 02:10:42,800
Speaker 1: It leonard could get a valuable offseason. Here you might

2780
02:10:42,840 --> 02:10:45,840
Speaker 1: get all the starting reps into training, camp maybe even

2781
02:10:45,840 --> 02:10:47,040
Speaker 1: into training.

2782
02:10:46,760 --> 02:10:48,480
Speaker 3: Camp preseason even maybe.

2783
02:10:48,240 --> 02:10:52,240
Speaker 1: Right depending On Daniel jones's situation. Here so you, know

2784
02:10:52,400 --> 02:10:55,080
Speaker 1: Has Riley leonard elevated from the sixth? ROUNDER i guess

2785
02:10:55,120 --> 02:10:57,080
Speaker 1: is What i'm, asking, like is he viewed a little

2786
02:10:57,080 --> 02:11:01,200
Speaker 1: bit higher in your? EYES i don't. THINK i, mean

2787
02:11:01,240 --> 02:11:03,200
Speaker 1: there's some COMMENTS i think that you've said that are,

2788
02:11:03,240 --> 02:11:04,920
Speaker 1: dumb BUT i don't think that's one of.

2789
02:11:04,960 --> 02:11:05,640
Speaker 3: Them, well thank.

2790
02:11:05,680 --> 02:11:06,720
Speaker 1: YOU i guess that's a.

2791
02:11:06,720 --> 02:11:07,240
Speaker 3: Compliment.

2792
02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:10,680
Speaker 5: Geez that reminds me of When jeff told you one.

2793
02:11:10,680 --> 02:11:12,040
Speaker 5: TIME i think that's the best that you ever.

2794
02:11:12,080 --> 02:11:14,280
Speaker 1: Had, KEVIN i, know can you guys BELIEVE i Thought

2795
02:11:14,320 --> 02:11:15,000
Speaker 1: Rick carlisle was?

2796
02:11:15,040 --> 02:11:16,920
Speaker 4: Today, hey it, happens.

2797
02:11:16,920 --> 02:11:19,240
Speaker 1: Man you gave us a little, pump fake little triple.

2798
02:11:19,280 --> 02:11:19,840
Speaker 4: Three it's all.

2799
02:11:19,880 --> 02:11:20,800
Speaker 1: Good i'm not gonna.

2800
02:11:20,840 --> 02:11:22,960
Speaker 3: Lie, SUNDAY i was, like are there football games?

2801
02:11:23,000 --> 02:11:23,800
Speaker 1: TODAY i thought was?

2802
02:11:23,840 --> 02:11:25,160
Speaker 3: Today it was Like tuesday or.

2803
02:11:25,160 --> 02:11:27,480
Speaker 1: SOMETHING I i, MEAN i said To John, HERRICK i

2804
02:11:27,480 --> 02:11:30,640
Speaker 1: have Said Happy wednesday to. You this field it's got

2805
02:11:30,640 --> 02:11:31,880
Speaker 1: SOME covid vibes to it right.

2806
02:11:31,880 --> 02:11:35,640
Speaker 5: Now, yeah we're just getting. By but, AGAIN i think

2807
02:11:35,640 --> 02:11:38,360
Speaker 5: the roads are better today or for those. Traveling just

2808
02:11:38,360 --> 02:11:40,760
Speaker 5: because they're, better it does not mean she driving at

2809
02:11:40,760 --> 02:11:41,400
Speaker 5: the normal rate of.

2810
02:11:41,400 --> 02:11:43,840
Speaker 1: SPEED i think The Lord covid wasn't during the. Winter

2811
02:11:44,360 --> 02:11:45,360
Speaker 1: when did it start like Mid?

2812
02:11:45,400 --> 02:11:47,160
Speaker 4: March, YEAH i mean.

2813
02:11:47,040 --> 02:11:49,680
Speaker 1: At least we could go. Outdoors can you imagine if.

2814
02:11:49,640 --> 02:11:49,960
Speaker 6: It was like.

2815
02:11:49,960 --> 02:11:52,280
Speaker 4: This, NO i don't want to imagine.

2816
02:11:52,320 --> 02:11:54,680
Speaker 1: That, gosh imagine how much you would have hated your.

2817
02:11:54,680 --> 02:11:59,720
Speaker 4: Family you KNOW i loved them a lot more WHEN i.

2818
02:11:59,720 --> 02:12:01,840
Speaker 3: Moved kevin's just laying on the couch right, now just

2819
02:12:01,880 --> 02:12:02,400
Speaker 3: talking into a.

2820
02:12:02,440 --> 02:12:05,280
Speaker 1: MICROPHONE i KNOW i. Am we got a notre dame uva.

2821
02:12:05,360 --> 02:12:07,960
Speaker 1: Tonight we'll get you so'll be his. Therapy Markan bowen

2822
02:12:07,960 --> 02:12:12,600
Speaker 1: And rakestraw UP us thirty. One Maybe, Carlisle, WELL i don't.

2823
02:12:12,640 --> 02:12:14,000
Speaker 1: KNOW i don't know If i'm gonna dial that one

2824
02:12:14,120 --> 02:12:16,840
Speaker 1: up and then Prettying indiana down In. Blueto we'll get

2825
02:12:16,840 --> 02:12:17,560
Speaker 1: you set one final.

2826
02:12:17,560 --> 02:12:31,400
Speaker 9: Time you were listening to a fan morning show on

2827
02:12:31,520 --> 02:12:34,800
Speaker 9: Sports radio ninety three five and one oh seven five the.

2828
02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:40,680
Speaker 1: Fan AM i not reading the clock right? Today?

2829
02:12:40,720 --> 02:12:46,320
Speaker 3: Mark we've had some clock. Issues it's, Fine, yeah you're.

2830
02:12:46,360 --> 02:12:48,360
Speaker 1: Good is there a reference To coldplay and clocks?

2831
02:12:48,400 --> 02:12:48,560
Speaker 2: Here?

2832
02:12:48,720 --> 02:12:51,960
Speaker 3: No no one's on the jumbo tron right, now holding

2833
02:12:51,960 --> 02:12:53,040
Speaker 3: each other when they shouldn't.

2834
02:12:53,080 --> 02:12:56,160
Speaker 4: Be that had to be one of the funniest moments

2835
02:12:56,200 --> 02:12:57,840
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty. Five you, know it's.

2836
02:12:57,840 --> 02:13:00,839
Speaker 1: Funny, obviously that's not what people think about when it

2837
02:13:00,880 --> 02:13:03,480
Speaker 1: comes To coldplay WHEN i hear this, song AND i

2838
02:13:03,520 --> 02:13:08,240
Speaker 1: don't Think Sports center does it. Anymore but if you

2839
02:13:08,240 --> 02:13:12,040
Speaker 1: guys ever watch images of the Decade Sports center would. Do, yeah,

2840
02:13:12,480 --> 02:13:16,600
Speaker 1: yeah it's a it's down on YouTube and the one

2841
02:13:16,640 --> 02:13:18,840
Speaker 1: That i'm referencing is like two thousand and two thousand and,

2842
02:13:18,920 --> 02:13:22,800
Speaker 1: nine and it's this song that leads off in, it

2843
02:13:23,280 --> 02:13:26,760
Speaker 1: and it's so well, DONE i mean capturing all the.

2844
02:13:26,760 --> 02:13:29,760
Speaker 1: Images ironically, enough one of the early images in the

2845
02:13:29,840 --> 02:13:32,280
Speaker 1: video again it's two thousand to two thousand and, nine

2846
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:38,080
Speaker 1: Is Bob knight in Done meadow speaking after his firing

2847
02:13:38,640 --> 02:13:42,440
Speaker 1: with AN IDs Podium Indiana daly student podium in front of,

2848
02:13:42,520 --> 02:13:45,839
Speaker 1: them WHICH i always laugh at WHEN i see that image.

2849
02:13:45,840 --> 02:13:49,400
Speaker 1: There and now we are full circle, tonight thirty five

2850
02:13:49,480 --> 02:13:54,280
Speaker 1: years ago, Today is that? Right the INFAMOUS i think

2851
02:13:54,280 --> 02:13:57,120
Speaker 1: it's a more colorful language THAN i hate losing To.

2852
02:13:57,120 --> 02:13:59,520
Speaker 1: PURDUE i forget the exact LANGUAGE i.

2853
02:13:59,440 --> 02:14:02,200
Speaker 4: Was gonna, say are WE i, mean look at who

2854
02:14:02,200 --> 02:14:02,680
Speaker 4: we're quoting?

2855
02:14:02,720 --> 02:14:07,120
Speaker 1: Here, yeah now the Infamous Bob knight quote inside of.

2856
02:14:07,080 --> 02:14:10,320
Speaker 4: It bob not ever had a clip that WAS fcc

2857
02:14:10,440 --> 02:14:11,760
Speaker 4: approved instead of the post game.

2858
02:14:11,840 --> 02:14:13,360
Speaker 3: Mockerm, YEAH i was, like, OH i should look that

2859
02:14:13,440 --> 02:14:14,880
Speaker 3: up AND i probably would have to do a lot

2860
02:14:14,880 --> 02:14:15,280
Speaker 3: of work on.

2861
02:14:15,400 --> 02:14:18,680
Speaker 4: Editing, yeah the dump button would have to be readily.

2862
02:14:18,720 --> 02:14:21,120
Speaker 1: Living are you not going to recover Great, Graham i'm

2863
02:14:21,160 --> 02:14:22,880
Speaker 1: trying to think of. That if that's the FULL i

2864
02:14:23,520 --> 02:14:25,040
Speaker 1: think it. IS i, mean, hell there's so many of.

2865
02:14:25,080 --> 02:14:28,040
Speaker 1: Them With Bob, KNIGHT i CLEARLY i can't get my day.

2866
02:14:28,120 --> 02:14:31,520
Speaker 1: Straight lord KNOWS i can't get my My Bob night.

2867
02:14:31,600 --> 02:14:34,360
Speaker 1: Quotes i'm really looking forward to the game tonight. Again

2868
02:14:34,440 --> 02:14:36,880
Speaker 1: raser AND i are going up thirty. One we're going

2869
02:14:36,920 --> 02:14:39,720
Speaker 1: To Notre Dame. VIRGINIA i can't. Wait it's one of

2870
02:14:39,720 --> 02:14:41,240
Speaker 1: my favorite days of the. Year i'm so.

2871
02:14:41,320 --> 02:14:46,280
Speaker 4: EXCITED i do love that. ARENA i went up with.

2872
02:14:46,360 --> 02:14:47,360
Speaker 1: My, Boy thank you for saying.

2873
02:14:47,360 --> 02:14:49,960
Speaker 5: That, yeah, no, SERIOUSLY i went up with my, Boy Aaron,

2874
02:14:50,000 --> 02:14:53,920
Speaker 5: ferguson sports editor over At Indie. Starr he's a Big

2875
02:14:54,000 --> 02:14:57,760
Speaker 5: Virginia tech, fan so When Notre dame Played Virginia tech

2876
02:14:57,760 --> 02:15:00,880
Speaker 5: and women's. Basketball this Was i'd have been last year

2877
02:15:00,920 --> 02:15:03,600
Speaker 5: or the year before during the combine and he's like

2878
02:15:03,640 --> 02:15:06,480
Speaker 5: my one of my best. Friends so he told me

2879
02:15:06,480 --> 02:15:10,200
Speaker 5: he had a, ticket AND i remember covering the combine

2880
02:15:10,240 --> 02:15:13,480
Speaker 5: that morning in early, afternoon jumping in the car and

2881
02:15:14,280 --> 02:15:14,960
Speaker 5: heading up To South.

2882
02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:18,080
Speaker 1: Bend there you. Go, yeah it is a nice. Arena

2883
02:15:18,160 --> 02:15:19,440
Speaker 1: there are TIMES i wish it was a little bit

2884
02:15:19,480 --> 02:15:22,800
Speaker 1: more full and a little bit livelier in. There But virginia's.

2885
02:15:22,880 --> 02:15:24,960
Speaker 1: Rank so we'll see what the environment looks like. Tonight

2886
02:15:25,080 --> 02:15:27,080
Speaker 1: and then As rayke AND i drives, home drive, home

2887
02:15:27,160 --> 02:15:30,400
Speaker 1: you guys have, Said i'm good to watch the game

2888
02:15:30,440 --> 02:15:35,520
Speaker 1: On peacock and we'll have radio there your. Background there you.

2889
02:15:35,560 --> 02:15:36,040
Speaker 4: Go it's a good.

2890
02:15:36,080 --> 02:15:38,760
Speaker 1: Setup Rob blackman first, Half Don fisher second.

2891
02:15:38,760 --> 02:15:40,720
Speaker 4: Half who's complaining about?

2892
02:15:40,720 --> 02:15:43,400
Speaker 5: THAT i mean we're talking ABOUT i think Actually Rob

2893
02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:47,880
Speaker 5: blackman was the sportscaster of the year For. Indiana and

2894
02:15:47,920 --> 02:15:50,040
Speaker 5: then we all Know Don fisher should probably have a

2895
02:15:50,080 --> 02:15:50,680
Speaker 5: statue down In.

2896
02:15:50,680 --> 02:15:55,920
Speaker 1: Bloomington two. Legends that's the plan here. TONIGHT i did

2897
02:15:55,920 --> 02:15:56,200
Speaker 1: a great.

2898
02:15:56,240 --> 02:15:57,360
Speaker 4: PLAN i did double check With.

2899
02:15:57,360 --> 02:15:58,760
Speaker 1: Maddia i'm, like are you are you good with me?

2900
02:15:58,840 --> 02:16:04,120
Speaker 1: Going she's, great so, SUPPORTIVE i would, hope so, well

2901
02:16:04,800 --> 02:16:07,160
Speaker 1: need a little bit that in the, marriage right, yeah right,

2902
02:16:07,200 --> 02:16:09,200
Speaker 1: NOW i mean At lee's what nine weeks, old and

2903
02:16:09,240 --> 02:16:12,320
Speaker 1: we got this weather going, on And Notre dame basketball

2904
02:16:12,320 --> 02:16:13,560
Speaker 1: probably isn't high on her priority.

2905
02:16:13,600 --> 02:16:15,960
Speaker 3: LIST i feel like your excitement With rake has improved your.

2906
02:16:16,040 --> 02:16:17,720
Speaker 3: Voice your voice has gotten better as the show's.

2907
02:16:17,800 --> 02:16:19,960
Speaker 1: Progressed, well that was a struggle there in the seven o'clock.

2908
02:16:20,040 --> 02:16:23,600
Speaker 5: Hour oh, yeah that's all. Right you pushed, through power.

2909
02:16:23,680 --> 02:16:25,520
Speaker 5: Through unlike our, BOSS.

2910
02:16:25,280 --> 02:16:28,560
Speaker 1: I dabbled with the Throat lotenger THAT i take out

2911
02:16:28,640 --> 02:16:31,080
Speaker 1: during the. Break feel Like i'm wearing my retainer.

2912
02:16:31,120 --> 02:16:33,360
Speaker 3: Again do you still have second degree burns from the tea?

2913
02:16:33,440 --> 02:16:35,720
Speaker 1: Too, no the skin is a little, red but it

2914
02:16:35,840 --> 02:16:39,760
Speaker 1: is progressed better on. THAT i am really looking forward to.

2915
02:16:39,760 --> 02:16:41,480
Speaker 1: TONIGHT i know the spreads five and a. HALF i

2916
02:16:41,840 --> 02:16:43,720
Speaker 1: think this is a lot closer to A pickham game than.

2917
02:16:43,720 --> 02:16:46,920
Speaker 1: That i'm trying not to be prisoner the moment With,

2918
02:16:47,000 --> 02:16:51,040
Speaker 1: purdue BUT i Think indiana maybe's found a little something

2919
02:16:51,040 --> 02:16:54,520
Speaker 1: of that starting lineup And Nick dorn can flat out shoot,

2920
02:16:54,520 --> 02:16:57,480
Speaker 1: it and, BOY i just feel like if you can

2921
02:16:57,520 --> 02:17:00,080
Speaker 1: shoot it that well on the road inside of that arena, tonight.

2922
02:17:01,360 --> 02:17:03,520
Speaker 5: You kind of need What illinois had, happened where they

2923
02:17:03,560 --> 02:17:06,160
Speaker 5: just made a bunch of threes and you're able to

2924
02:17:06,240 --> 02:17:09,720
Speaker 5: kind of keep hold of the. ROPE i think the

2925
02:17:09,760 --> 02:17:12,720
Speaker 5: first five six minutes So it's a lot about how

2926
02:17:12,760 --> 02:17:13,080
Speaker 5: this game is.

2927
02:17:13,080 --> 02:17:15,240
Speaker 1: GONNA i just have a lot of defensive. Questions With,

2928
02:17:15,520 --> 02:17:18,880
Speaker 1: PURDUE i GUESS i ASSUME. Cj cox is On. WILKERSON

2929
02:17:20,200 --> 02:17:23,199
Speaker 1: i mean that will make the most sense some height,

2930
02:17:23,320 --> 02:17:26,200
Speaker 1: there but he can also chase and. Move but then

2931
02:17:26,240 --> 02:17:28,600
Speaker 1: again With dorn and the starting, lineup they're a little bit.

2932
02:17:28,720 --> 02:17:31,960
Speaker 1: Bigger so is that you know a lawyer Chasing dorn?

2933
02:17:32,000 --> 02:17:35,440
Speaker 1: Around you? Know Braden smith was then on Beyond Joe Dirt,

2934
02:17:35,440 --> 02:17:37,080
Speaker 1: Boy Joe dirt And Bradens smith are going to get

2935
02:17:37,120 --> 02:17:37,360
Speaker 1: into it.

2936
02:17:37,400 --> 02:17:41,480
Speaker 4: Tonight oh, Yeah Brad smith, is he, Talks he's.

2937
02:17:41,520 --> 02:17:45,080
Speaker 1: Fiery And Joe Dirt what a? Name what a?

2938
02:17:45,160 --> 02:17:45,400
Speaker 8: Name?

2939
02:17:45,600 --> 02:17:48,920
Speaker 1: Yeah connor enright for those that are very confused Why

2940
02:17:48,920 --> 02:17:52,119
Speaker 1: i'm saying the Name Joe. Dirt but againdue has an

2941
02:17:52,200 --> 02:17:55,000
Speaker 1: unquestioned advantage from a post standpoint in the, Past i've

2942
02:17:55,000 --> 02:17:57,760
Speaker 1: been very impressed By Oscar. Clough, honestly you, know when

2943
02:17:57,800 --> 02:18:01,680
Speaker 1: these big men, train it's for Up indiana seeing it

2944
02:18:01,680 --> 02:18:04,520
Speaker 1: With Reed bailey right now From. Davidson it's one thing

2945
02:18:04,520 --> 02:18:07,680
Speaker 1: to finish through length at the mid major. Level, Yeah

2946
02:18:07,720 --> 02:18:10,000
Speaker 1: it's a different to finish through length at the big

2947
02:18:10,040 --> 02:18:11,160
Speaker 1: ten level or THE sca.

2948
02:18:11,240 --> 02:18:13,520
Speaker 4: Level also Think oscar has the body for it though.

2949
02:18:14,280 --> 02:18:18,280
Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely But bailey's really, struggled Whereas Oscar klub's BEEN

2950
02:18:18,280 --> 02:18:20,040
Speaker 1: i think pretty efficient for. Them and it's been needed

2951
02:18:20,040 --> 02:18:22,440
Speaker 1: Because Trake cofflin, ran whether he's playing through injury or.

2952
02:18:22,520 --> 02:18:24,760
Speaker 1: Not you, know that's been a big storyline here for.

2953
02:18:24,800 --> 02:18:28,439
Speaker 1: Produce so reminder that is nine. O'clock our COVERAGE wibc

2954
02:18:29,320 --> 02:18:33,240
Speaker 1: eight o'clock for that one In, Nebraska michigan at seven,

2955
02:18:33,280 --> 02:18:37,360
Speaker 1: o'clock so, outstanding big ten. Night but you need the

2956
02:18:37,440 --> 02:18:42,880
Speaker 1: cock for. It not saying a.

2957
02:18:42,920 --> 02:18:45,560
Speaker 5: THING i didn't know what to say after. That SHOULD

2958
02:18:45,600 --> 02:18:48,119
Speaker 5: i pull a ricord and, SAY i don't know where

2959
02:18:48,160 --> 02:18:48,640
Speaker 5: we go from?

2960
02:18:48,680 --> 02:18:53,160
Speaker 3: Here you just walk out and leave Le kevin do with?

2961
02:18:53,200 --> 02:18:56,400
Speaker 1: This the cock needs to be in the night here seven, O'clock,

2962
02:18:56,480 --> 02:19:01,199
Speaker 1: Nebraska michigan On, Peacock indiana To. Purdue do we have the? Sound?

2963
02:19:01,240 --> 02:19:03,440
Speaker 1: Remark maybe to try and save this a little bit.

2964
02:19:03,400 --> 02:19:05,480
Speaker 3: NOW i Think i'm gonna let you just flail out.

2965
02:19:05,480 --> 02:19:09,760
Speaker 3: There aaron unintentionally chimed in and, said, uh there you.

2966
02:19:09,800 --> 02:19:12,480
Speaker 1: Go NO i met the peacock.

2967
02:19:12,600 --> 02:19:16,000
Speaker 3: Sound, No, no not that one, SAID i think Notre

2968
02:19:16,080 --> 02:19:18,480
Speaker 3: Dame trip With greg rig show Has Kevin bowen as

2969
02:19:18,520 --> 02:19:19,840
Speaker 3: WHAT jmv would call a sports.

2970
02:19:19,840 --> 02:19:22,360
Speaker 1: Arousal, Yeah i'll probably Let james walk out of the

2971
02:19:22,360 --> 02:19:25,680
Speaker 1: studio BEFORE i do. Today oh, boy that's How i'm

2972
02:19:25,680 --> 02:19:27,800
Speaker 1: feeling here on This oh, Boy tuesday. Morning thank you

2973
02:19:27,840 --> 02:19:30,000
Speaker 1: To John, Herrick thank you To rob Black, Men Rick.

2974
02:19:30,040 --> 02:19:33,840
Speaker 1: Carlou tomorrow might have Fad mada join us. Tomorrow it's

2975
02:19:33,840 --> 02:19:37,080
Speaker 1: a big one For butler At Saint. John's you look

2976
02:19:37,080 --> 02:19:38,959
Speaker 1: at quad one opportunities AND i know we're kind of

2977
02:19:39,000 --> 02:19:42,320
Speaker 1: nerding out over the bubble. Here indiana squarely on it right,

2978
02:19:42,360 --> 02:19:46,879
Speaker 1: now And, BUTLER i think three of their final, TEN

2979
02:19:47,080 --> 02:19:49,840
Speaker 1: i want to say a quad. One indiana's got seven of,

2980
02:19:50,000 --> 02:19:54,680
Speaker 1: ten So indiana definitely has more on the quad run front.

2981
02:19:54,720 --> 02:19:56,720
Speaker 1: Here Is ellen always gotta be like a one or

2982
02:19:56,760 --> 02:19:58,760
Speaker 1: two seat right? Now probably two. SEEDY i think.

2983
02:19:58,680 --> 02:20:01,320
Speaker 5: We've won what ninet right? Now eleven of our last.

2984
02:20:01,320 --> 02:20:03,359
Speaker 5: Twelve rocking and rolling.

2985
02:20:03,120 --> 02:20:05,280
Speaker 1: Baby using that pronoun a little differently than he used

2986
02:20:05,280 --> 02:20:08,040
Speaker 1: it during the football. Season is he not? WELL i was,

2987
02:20:08,120 --> 02:20:10,360
Speaker 1: rolling we lost about fifty THEN i had to jump.

2988
02:20:10,400 --> 02:20:13,119
Speaker 1: Ship interesting on that, FRONT.

2989
02:20:12,879 --> 02:20:13,920
Speaker 4: I don't roll what loses?

2990
02:20:14,000 --> 02:20:17,240
Speaker 1: Now Mark James. Kevin we're signing, Off Jeff. Reckon we'll

2991
02:20:17,240 --> 02:20:20,080
Speaker 1: be back. Tomorrow stay, Safe, indy stay, Warm we'll talk

2992
02:20:20,080 --> 02:20:22,240
Speaker 1: to you seven. Am right, here ninety three five one

2993
02:20:22,280 --> 02:20:23,400
Speaker 1: oh seven Five The fan