1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm feeling good, casey good. I'm feeling good, feeling good, 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: looking good. It seems like humanity is starting to catch 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: on to what a nightmare AI is becoming and how 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: it's going to screw all of us in the end. 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: Are you afraid of it? 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Well? Like it's like, are you afraid of the dark? 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 2: Like? 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I just know how it's going to end, right, 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: I mean if you look at like, just take our 10 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: industry for example, Matt Matt Hibblin and I are our boss. 11 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: We were having this conversation because he's an old timey 12 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: radio guy like I am, you know, and we're talking 13 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: about how technology is what. 14 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: If you guys are old timey. 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'm saying we've been in this business, 16 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: you know, longer than a decade, right, And we were 17 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: talking about how much the business itself has changed, and 18 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: the role that technology played in so much of that. Right, 19 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: And we've talked about a variety of different things. But 20 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: even in the pre artificial intelligence days, technology d radically 21 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: changed the radio industry, and not for the better. Technology 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: was a big reason that corporations took over our industry. 23 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: Big reason corporations took over the television industry because you 24 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: can program and you experienced this, right, Yeah, you were 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: once on a radio show that was heard in what 26 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: sixteen different markets? 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: Are sixteen markets here? Right? 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: And because and we talked about this before, you've got 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: people in different cities that are doing breaks for here 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, right. And that's when the corporations, as technology 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: began to take over in the mid to late nineties 32 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: and said, hey, we can run twenty radio stations for 33 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 1: what it costs used to cost to run three radio 34 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: stations right now. Doesn't mean they're run better, doesn't mean 35 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: the programming is better, doesn't mean the content's better, doesn't 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: mean it's serving the community better, which was always the 37 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: premise of community radio and television. You're supposed to serve 38 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: the community. It's why they still give you the station 39 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: id right. Well, oftimes, the station idea has nothing to 40 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: do with where the thing is physically located anymore. And 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: obviously we have just seen that play out in this industry. 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: It's been for many, many people, the death of their employment, 43 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: the death of careers in radio, television, you name it. 44 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: And we've seen this in a variety of fields. Right 45 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: as technology has come in it has made the human 46 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: element completely unnecessary. It's put people out of work. Oftentimes 47 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: it's people who have spent decades in careers, fields, whatever, 48 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: and now you're just putting it on some sort of 49 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: megasteroid with this artificial intelligence, and within five years there's 50 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of people that aren't going to 51 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: be necessary anymore. 52 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, so this is just the next evolution. I 53 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: can recall as a young baby disc jockey, and that's 54 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: why they call them disc jockeys because you spun platters 55 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: either do you actually wouldn't you are albums? 56 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: Are you old enough that you actually spun records? You 57 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: never spun records? Yes they did, Oh you did not. 58 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: AM fourteen ninety WSDS, SUDDS Country. 59 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: They didn't have CDs. 60 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: Well, it was integrated, so that was the next level 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: things went digital. On the compact disc. 62 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: You actually put a record on a record player and 63 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: played it on the radio. 64 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: Yes, no kidding, Yeah, I didn't know you were that. 65 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: You queue it up and then you gotta slide it 66 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: back just a little bit so that when you hit 67 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: the podcast on, it's caught its speed up. 68 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: There was there was a time where you used to 69 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: have a have to have a broadcaster's license. Did you 70 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: ever actually get had to. 71 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: Get an actual I'm FCC certified. 72 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: Oh, you had to get the actual license it. I 73 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: don't think I've even gone into radio. If I'd known 74 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: there would have been paperwork involved in it. I just 75 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: had to walk right in to the portal. 76 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: Now it's no big deal. But this is just the 77 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: next evolution, because it was you know, it went from 78 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: the albums and the forty fives to the digital era 79 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: with the CDs, and then the automation when everything went 80 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: from CDs to MP three's and computerized. 81 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: So to answer your question, and I know we went 82 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: about this in the long way, but if I'd have 83 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: been in radio, like I'm not trying to be facetious 84 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: when to say this, Matt, Matt and I have talked 85 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: about this quite a bit. I was born in the 86 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: wrong like time. If I could have been in radio 87 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties, I'd been a millionaire, like because 88 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: of how radio was paid, how the personalities were propped up, 89 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: the endorsement opportunities, et cetera. Like the business has just changed. 90 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 1: I do fine, right, Like I'm not in a soup line. 91 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: But twenty years makes or thirty years makes a world 92 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: of difference in a technological an industry that's been totally 93 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: taken over in many cases by technology. And so to 94 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: answer your question on this, I'm not afraid of Like, 95 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be like Terminator right 96 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: away where the robots take over humanity or launched the 97 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: launched the big One. But I do worry in a 98 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: thriving country, countries that do will have a thriving middle 99 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: class in which the middle class is continuously being lifted up. 100 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: And what we've seen in this country is the tippy 101 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: top people do disgustingly well, and yet the middle class 102 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: is moving downward. And countries that have great wealth divides 103 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: usually end up in turmoil. And that is what I fear. 104 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: That this technological advance is too rapid, its two pass 105 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: and is going to displace too many people who won't 106 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: be able to have a buffer zone to acquire necessary 107 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:34,239 Speaker 1: skill sets to continue to maintain their middle class stature, right. 108 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: And that's part of it. You have to keep those 109 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: skill sets going. And you have no idea what we 110 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: see AI today what it will be in four years 111 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 2: from now. No, we use radio as an example, so 112 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: we're already seeing the next evolution. There's Alpha Media, which 113 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: is a big company. They have AI disc jockeys. It's 114 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: not even a human anymore talking on the air. But 115 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: according to this Reuter's poll, seventy one percent of Americans 116 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: they're concerned the AI will permanently replace too many jobs. 117 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: They're also very concerned that it's going to stir up 118 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: political chaos, especially through deep fake videos. We've heard a 119 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: lot about that recently, and an example would be you 120 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: might recall Donald Trump shared an AI generated video of 121 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: Barack Obama being arrested. Yes, well that was an event 122 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: that actually never occurred, Yes, but its sure did look real. 123 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: Well, and you know, my wife works in this field, 124 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: not in the field of artificial intelligence, but in the 125 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: technology field, and she deals with this stuff quite a bit. 126 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: And she said, the thing people don't realize right now 127 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: is AI is stupid. She said, people like, it looks 128 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: great to the average person, but she's take to people 129 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: like me who see it in the the behind the scenes, 130 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, She's like, AI is 131 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: really stupid. She said, in the next five years, AI 132 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: is going to get I think you guys have had 133 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: this conversation before that, AI is going to get and 134 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: once I get smart, all bets are off. And that 135 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: is what humanity is not ready for. Is this because 136 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: it's continuously learning. It is like the movies in the 137 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: sense it is continually teaching itself. It's growing, it's evolving, 138 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: and it will surpass humans at some point. I don't 139 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: know when that will be, but that's going to be 140 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: a real danger. 141 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: Yep. So Americans are very divided on it, and like 142 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: you said, seventy one percent are fearing that it's going 143 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: to replace their job. I believe it was Pope Leo 144 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: who was saying that it was one of his top 145 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: priorities because of its dehumanization ability. 146 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: Sure. No, absolutely, So to answer your question, no, I 147 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: don't fear it like it's going to get me in 148 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: the middle of the night. I fear it though that 149 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: it is going to create in immense chaos on our economy. 150 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: And it's one thing to say to people, Hey, ten 151 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: years from now, the landscape's going to look different than 152 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 1: it does. You need to get some sort of secondary 153 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: edge cation or skill set or whatever and give people 154 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: and society and our education system itself time to prepare 155 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: and train people. This is in real time. Two years 156 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: from now, things are going to be different than they 157 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: much different than they are today. Societies are like dinosaurs, right, 158 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: They're not meant to evolve quickly. They're slow, right, Like 159 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: there's preparation things. Things happen the Internet, Like we didn't 160 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: just wake up one day and everybody had Facebook. There 161 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: was an evolution of that. There was an evolution of 162 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: social media, from dial up to email to all that stuff. Right, 163 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: this is like it's just smacking together in real time. 164 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: And I just don't think I don't think people are ready. 165 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: According to this poll, sixty one percent of people are 166 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 2: concerned about the electricity demand. Oh yeah, boy, wou priored 167 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: to power AI? And it's everybody's I think, has a 168 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: different take on this right now. I just saw an 169 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: article yesterday. It was up on Drudge and the title 170 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: of the article was, have we reached the AI pinnacle? 171 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: It's like the AI bust. It's over. This is as 172 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: far as it's going to go. And then you hear 173 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: from other people saying, oh, no, you have no idea 174 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 2: what things are going to look like in four years. 175 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 2: Oh no, nobody knows. 176 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: No, you're no, it's we're in big trouble, but we'll 177 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: do it together as long as they need us, until 178 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: they can have AI people do talk radio, then we'll 179 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: do it together. All right, Okay, when we come back 180 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: tomorrow night, Casey is a big night here in central Indiana. 181 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: Across the state of Indiana, high school football is back. 182 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: Yes. 183 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: And you know, I was thinking because when I was 184 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: growing up, high school football in Indiana was like an 185 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: also ran, Like yeah, there are people went to the 186 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: games and it was fine, but it was always just 187 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: this like precursor to high school basketball. Everyone's like, let's 188 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: just get through the fall, let's get to the winner. 189 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: Basketball's back, baby, And now high school football is the thing. 190 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: I mean, thousands of people in every community across the 191 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: state that has a home football game tomorrow night are 192 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: gonna be flooding in. Football is now king. And I thought, 193 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: let's get some perspective on why Indian has changed in 194 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: the sports landscape, and let's talk about there's going to 195 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: be some great teams. Our old pal, yeah, John Herrick, 196 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: the news director, excellent. He is mister high school football 197 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: broadcaster man. He does the Bob Lovel Show, and now 198 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: we're Indiana. He's going to join us next to talk 199 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: about what's going on in high school football. 200 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: It's Kennelly Casey on ninety three WIBC. 201 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: Casey tomorrow night. High school football is back in the 202 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: state of Indiana. High school football is king now at 203 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: various fine public and private institutions across the state of Indiana. 204 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: Thousands of people will be flooding in. 205 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 2: And I want to know, were you an athletic supporter 206 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: or an athlete? 207 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: I was in the student newspaper I wrote this will 208 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: shock you. Yeah, I was infamous for writing very critical 209 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: articles about the sports teams. 210 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: Do you get bullied for that? 211 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: No, because they knew I'd just write something worse about 212 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: him the next month. John Herrick, News director e Stordina 213 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: here at WIBC jointed now because you are an acclaimed, 214 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: award winning sports broadcaster on Friday nights. 215 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know about that, but it is a 216 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 4: passion of mine. I've been doing it since really college. 217 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 4: I was at you know, when I was at De 218 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 4: Paul University, we did a Putnam County Game of the 219 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 4: week on WGR. We'd go to Greencastle, Monrovia, North Putt, 220 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 4: South Putnam, wherever we wanted to go, and that's where 221 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 4: it all started. And I did it, you know, in Montana, Oklahoma, 222 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 4: and now I'm back here doing it again. 223 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: For I s we are of similar age. I am 224 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: a few years older than you. But when we were kids, 225 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: as I just alluded to last segment of Casey, basketball 226 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: was king. Football was just sort of like something that 227 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: we just wasted time to get to basketball. And now 228 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: football has permanently taken over as king of everything. 229 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 4: How and why did that happen? I think a couple 230 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 4: of reasons. One, all these schools have made a ton 231 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 4: of investments in their sports program. I know I'm going 232 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 4: to probably trigger Rob when I say this, Casey, but 233 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 4: there have been there for end of money at some schools. 234 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: The tax pairents. You're right, exactly, The money fairy did 235 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: not do this. We have done this. 236 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 4: I know that a lot of schools have made upgrades 237 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 4: to their football infrastructure. They've gotten video boards, they've gotten 238 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 4: all kinds of really cool gadgets and gizmos, and fans 239 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 4: love that. I also think that fans, at least from 240 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 4: what who I talk with, they're so irritated by either 241 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 4: the NFL or the college football landscape. With the NIL 242 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 4: and transfer portal that I think that they feel that 243 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 4: high school football is like the last pure thing left 244 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 4: that they feel is not as corrupted by money as 245 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 4: college or the NFL. So I think, like Friday nights, 246 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 4: people feel like is is sacred to them. That's why 247 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 4: you have such great attendance. 248 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, because when I first started broadcasting high school 249 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: football games back in the dark ages, many many years ago, 250 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: it was like people went. The people that were there 251 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: were passionate, but they were often horribly maintained grass field 252 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: and there was some bad high school track around the 253 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: stadium and you were hoping the bleachers and the press 254 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: box didn't cave in. And Nowah, especially in the Central 255 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: Indiana school districts, their stadiums are literally better than college stadiums. 256 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean, it's funny you say that, 257 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 4: because I can't tell you how many times I've been 258 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 4: to high school football complexes in Indiana or Oklahoma or 259 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 4: Texas that are better than some of the other colleges 260 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 4: I've been to. And it's because people. I think when 261 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 4: we were kids, people complained about how bad those facilities were, 262 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 4: and that is what got the ball rolling towards more investment. 263 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: As usual, we sacrificed, we crawled, so that others may 264 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: now Olympic sprint. Yeah. 265 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: Yes, two hundred and fifty five high schools have football teams. 266 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: You've got what six tiers of classes. Do you think 267 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: part of the popularity is because obviously a football team 268 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 2: is much larger than a basketball team, more people can anticipate. 269 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely think it's part of it. And then 270 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 4: you do have the tailgate atmosphere behind it, you know 271 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 4: where people can just I mean I go to these 272 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 4: parking lots on Friday nights walking into the stadium and 273 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 4: it's just a full on party. 274 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: Do people recognize you? Do they offer you a cold 275 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: beer on your way into the stadium, Hey, that's newsman 276 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: John Herrick. 277 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 4: They absolutely do not, nor do they care. They might 278 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 4: notice me if I have my ISC shirt on, because 279 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 4: Greg Reigstraw and the great folks at the ISIC Sports 280 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 4: Network have grown that brand into something really special. But 281 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 4: I also think that people there are so many streaming 282 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 4: options that people can use, so if they can't make 283 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 4: it to the game, they don't necessarily have to pay. 284 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 4: Sometimes they do, but there's a lot of free options 285 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 4: to watch the game if you can't make it. I 286 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 4: think that's also helped. 287 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: You know who one of the original sports streamers for 288 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: high school sports in Indianas Casey. 289 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: Was it Robcastery. 290 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: It was me Audio Sports Online. I had like one 291 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: hundred schools. I have been displaced by taxpayer funded technology. 292 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: They put me out of a job. 293 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, just like a all. 294 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: Right, so you do television for a group called Internet 295 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: Television for a group called ISC. Yes, and it's like 296 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: a big It's not just like some guy in the 297 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: press box with the handheld camera, like it's a big hole, hey, Rube, 298 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: Like you got on field cameras and everything. 299 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, And it goes to a truck and there's 300 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 4: a guy running replay. It's yeah, there's several camera operators 301 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 4: on site. It's really cool. 302 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: Is it? Like? I hated doing play by play on 303 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: television because I like to talk and aren't you supposed 304 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: to like let the picture tell the story? Is it 305 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: hard to be a television play by play man? 306 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 4: There is, there's a lot of nuance to it. But 307 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 4: one of my favorite broadcasting veterans is Kevin Harlan, and 308 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: I've always been very impressed with how he can do 309 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 4: both radio and TV, so I've tried to like really 310 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 4: lean into that, and I have had to work with 311 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: a couple of talent coaches on how to do TV 312 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 4: because they're like, you're talking too much this, oh yeah, 313 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 4: so you have to learn to dial it back. And 314 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 4: then also like once you describe the play, let the 315 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 4: analyst jump in and break down why that happened, and 316 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 4: then the replay can do the rest. 317 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: John Herrick is our guest. We're talking about high school 318 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: fotball begins tomorrow night, Casey. You know, I had it 319 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: down to such a science. At one point, I was 320 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: capable of running my own camera. I had a headset 321 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: and I could do play by play and if somebody 322 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: didn't show up, this was to run the camera. I 323 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: could do all the things at the same time. 324 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: You're like the musician who plays the drums and guitar 325 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: in harmonica and. 326 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: Sing might be part of why I went out of business. 327 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: All right, So John, you you cover all these schools 328 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: here in Central Indiana. Who are some of the teams 329 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: this year that people are going to be focused on? 330 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 4: The ones in Central Indiana that I think are going 331 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 4: to be the biggest ones to look out for I'm 332 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: going to trigger brob again here, Casey. But Brownsburg, well, I. 333 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: Mean, we've spent nine to jillion dollars on the football 334 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: stadium and we have a second football stadium. Now did 335 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: you know this? They built a second football stadium on 336 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: a practice field right next to the football stadium, so 337 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: in case, I guess, I don't know, if the football 338 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: game spills out of the current stadium, it can continue 339 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: on the next Why why would you need two football stadiums? 340 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: What possible reason would there be for two. 341 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: Versus? 342 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: That's what it is? Yeah, boy, howdy we anyway, so 343 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: we're funding one of the best teams known demand there 344 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: in the town of Brownsburg. That's great. 345 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 4: They were thirteen and one last year, have a lot 346 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 4: of people back, so I'm sure they'll be good again. 347 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 4: Center Grove who came close to beating Brownsburg and has 348 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 4: a lot of people back. They'll be a contender in 349 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 4: six A New Palestine. Shocker to hear say this. I 350 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 4: mean they had to move up to class at five 351 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 4: A because they won the four A state championship. 352 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: They got eighteen. 353 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 4: Starters back, so eighteen yeah, yeah, Kyle Ralph has just 354 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 4: they just it seems like they reload at New Pallette here. 355 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: How did they choose what games you go do? Are 356 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: they like Herrick, you want this game or anything? No, 357 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, that's gonna be boring. I have a 358 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: little bit of a choice. But it's also based on 359 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: what they can sell and what the what the sales 360 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: team can do, and also where they might be established. 361 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: So if they're if I sees. 362 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 4: Like, hey, we got a really good audience up in 363 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: the northern part of the state or up in the 364 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 4: southern out in the southern part of the state, we 365 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 4: might have to send you there. 366 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: It just kind of all depends. There's a lot of circumplances. 367 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: One of the reasons I had to get out of 368 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: this case, he was, you know, I don't like to 369 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: leave my house and Friday night, well, the Friday night 370 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: football thing. It's why I stopped going to the to 371 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: the games is it's an eyemare. It takes like an 372 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: hour to get in, an hour to get out. You 373 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: got to get there an hour early. It's like a 374 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: seven or eight hour endeavor. And there's people people. Oh yeah, yeah, 375 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: those people. 376 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: John, do you ever follow any teams in other parts 377 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: of the state? 378 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 379 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 4: So I've done a lot of games at like Cascade 380 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 4: or I still follow teams in Putnam County just because 381 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 4: I went to DePaul University and is in Putnam County. 382 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 4: One story that I'm fascinated to see if this will 383 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 4: go well this year is North Central. I'm going to 384 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 4: be covering them a lot. They have had three straight 385 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 4: seasons where they have gone winless. Oh, but they have 386 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 4: a new coach turning around that they He is talking confidently, 387 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 4: maybe not Kurt Signetti level talking confidently, but he is 388 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 4: speaking like, Hey, we got leadership here. We can turn 389 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 4: things around. And it'll be interesting to see if they 390 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 4: can break the streak. And the first game that I 391 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 4: have tomorrow night is them playing against Rebuff. Rebuff lost 392 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 4: some people, they'll be down a little bit. North Central 393 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 4: be a little bit better, so they have a chance 394 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 4: to break the streak right off the bat. 395 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: Do you think because I saw this in West Virginia, 396 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: maybe it was where they're proving some sort of nil. 397 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: Do you think that's ever gonna happen here, that high 398 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: school kids are gonna be able to be paid to 399 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: play high school sports. 400 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 4: I don't get the sense. Again, I don't know the 401 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 4: IHSA Commissioner, Paul Knidig super well. But I know him 402 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 4: well enough to hear him when he talks about that stuffs. 403 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 4: He seems very apprehensive about it. And he's only open 404 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: to transferring kids transferring to a different school if it's 405 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 4: like they full on moved or they had a really 406 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 4: good reason for moving out of one area into another 407 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 4: one so that they would allow a kid to transfer 408 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 4: to play to different school. But man paying high school 409 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 4: football players or high school athletes in Indiana, that seems 410 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 4: like a bit of a stretch at this point, but 411 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 4: you never know. It seemed like a stretch for college 412 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 4: players at one point. And here we are. 413 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: Where can people find you, like on the internet tomorrow 414 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: night if they're like, I need more John Herrick in 415 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: my life. The newscast is just not enough. Give me 416 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: some football. 417 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 4: John Herrick is Sportsnetwork dot com or you can download 418 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 4: the ISIC app IIC Sports Network app and you can 419 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 4: watch games for free on there. 420 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: So John Herrick, thank you, Thank you, guys. 421 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: Thanks you're listening to Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 422 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: So there's an update on the Herb Baumeister case, which 423 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 3: sounds weird because he's been no longer with us for 424 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 3: a very long time, but just a reset for people 425 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: who don't know herb Bowmeister is a famed. 426 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: Serial killer. 427 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I believed to have killed dozens of men in 428 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: the nineties. 429 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: Lived up in Westfield and at the time was a 430 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: very secluded area, and he was alleged to have not 431 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: only killed they killed these gay men, but also lured 432 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: them to his home and then disposed of their bodies 433 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: on his property. And there have been documentaries made about this. 434 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: I mean, he is It's fascinating and I don't know why, 435 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: but Baumeister, other than here locally, doesn't get near the 436 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: attention gay c or Bundy or Richard Ramirez, even though 437 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: he's alleged to have killed as many are more people 438 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,479 Speaker 1: than these these these guys did, I mean the amount 439 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: of bodies they've been able to find on that property 440 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: over the years has been a staggering, staggering amount. One 441 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: of the issues they've run into is trying to identify 442 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: who were the victims were. And the current coroner in 443 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: Hamilton County is a guy by the name of Jeff Jealous, 444 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: and he's been all over news reports documentaries. I think 445 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: Hulu had a big thing a while ago about this. 446 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: He has really taken an interest in this case and 447 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: has done what he can to one try to keep 448 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: the story alive, to try to figure out who these 449 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: people are, but also invoke help from universities, outside groups, 450 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: et cetera to help identify who these these victims are. 451 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: And now there's a new group, a new nonprofit that 452 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: is stepping up to try to help identify these remains 453 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: found on Baumeister's farm. 454 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Corner's Office they partnered with gen Genie's. 455 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: Is that what it is gen Genies. I think that's 456 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: how it's pron genies g E N G E n 457 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: I E S. 458 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, as you mentioned, it's a nonprofit and they 459 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 2: specialize in investigative genetic genealogy. Trying to speed up the 460 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 2: victim identification. They're working on the case for free, and 461 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: they're using DNA and also family trees to help identify 462 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 2: the victims. So at least sevenineen sets of human remains 463 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: have been found at this Fox Hollow farm. Ten of 464 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 2: the victims have been identified. They're reporting that three more 465 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: are being close to being named through this DNA analysis 466 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: and genealogy, So that means that there are at least 467 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: four that are still up in question. 468 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: Well, what was interesting about this? And, like I said, 469 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: the Hulu documentary kind of went into this a little bit, 470 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: but one of the issues they had is because there 471 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: was not a societal acceptance of the gay lifestyle like 472 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: there is today. Like I'm not talking about what your 473 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: personal beliefs are on the topic. I'm talking about like 474 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: people used to literally get beaten for their you know, 475 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: if it came out they were gay, et cetera. So 476 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:55,479 Speaker 1: a lot of people hid that lifestyle publicly. It made 477 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: them more susceptible to being seduced into unsavory circumstances like 478 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: this because they were not living publicly, but also because 479 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: of that life so their family knew about it or whatever. 480 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: The reporting mechanism of someone going missing was not what 481 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: it is today the police because of the stigma with 482 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: the lifestyle. This is what happened with a lot of 483 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: the gay sy stuff, right where you'd report some kid 484 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: going missing and the police are like, ah, that's just 485 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: some transient runaway or oh well he was into so 486 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: and so so whatever. The police weren't on it. Probably 487 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: the way they should have been. I think some of 488 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: the people who were around at the time even admitted that, 489 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: not that anybody was doing anything malicious, but you got 490 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: a pile of paperwork and you're just getting to what 491 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: you get to. So a lot of these people who 492 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: may be these victims, their family members never can't afford 493 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: or they're not on the radars what I'm saying, they're 494 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: not on the radar of it could be this person. 495 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: So when they're trying to do this DNA stuff, one 496 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: of the things they're running into is you've got to 497 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: a sample to work off of, You've got to have 498 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: a family member to work off of to try to 499 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: trace does this person's DNA match with any of these 500 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: body parts that we have found these victims that we 501 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: have found on the property. 502 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 2: So the corner said that the goal is to give 503 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 2: some of the family's long awaited answers and ensure that 504 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 2: the remains are laid to rest. And he said that 505 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 2: they're not going to stop until all the possibilities. 506 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and WHR had a big xpoze on this, and 507 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: I think some other news outlets have done it as well, 508 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: And a lot of credit goes to this corner. Jealouson 509 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,479 Speaker 1: because he's the guy that when he got in there 510 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: sort of said, look, well he reopened the case right right, 511 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: And he has sounded the alarm, and he's done interviews 512 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: and he's said people died here, okay, and yes it 513 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: was thirty years ago or more, but they still deserve 514 00:25:55,240 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: a proper burial, they deserve to be known. And so 515 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: credit to him that he continues to sort of ring 516 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: the bell on this, and he sounds like he's got 517 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: a new group that's really passionate about trying to help 518 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: him out and hopefully they'll be able to put some 519 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: more names on these. 520 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: They say that there's seventeen sets of human remains, but 521 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 2: they could still be finding more. 522 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: Oh sure, well, who's the horrible I'm forgetting the guy's name. 523 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: We had the guy on who owns the property now, 524 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: and you know he was it was a fasting interview. 525 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: This was a year year or more ago we had 526 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: him on, and I'm sorry his name gave me off 527 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: the top of my head right now, but he was 528 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: a fasting interview about. 529 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: How he would find things, yeah, and take it down 530 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: to the corner. 531 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: Spacious that property is, and certainly I'm sure that there's 532 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: stuff there that hasn't been on earth yet. So good. 533 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: It's good to hear this. Good and God bless that 534 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: coroner that's trying to do this for these for these 535 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: victims and for their families. 536 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: So more than four hundred National Guard troops from the 537 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: thirty eighth Infantry Division, they came home to Indianapolis last night. 538 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: Where were they after a year long deployment. They were 539 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 2: part of Operations Spartan Shield in the Middle East. 540 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: Okay, very good. 541 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: So they were gone for a year and here is 542 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 2: the governor welcoming them back home. 543 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a long stretched time. 544 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 2: All it fun. 545 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: You're serving the state, you're serving. 546 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 2: The hydry made it back safe. 547 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 4: Foo. 548 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: Great to have you back. 549 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 1: I want to get this long hung out, get out, 550 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: see your love. 551 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 3: Would you do? 552 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 553 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: If I've just been in the Middle East for a year, 554 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: the last person I'd want to see is Mike Brawn. 555 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: So disagree. 556 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 2: Uh. The governor posted about it with that video and 557 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: he said, welcome home to the thirty eighth Infantry Division 558 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: of the National Guard. Of course, the National Guard, you know, 559 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 2: the governor in each state. 560 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: Is like the chiefs commander chief basically achieve. 561 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 2: Ar of that guard, and he said, thank you for 562 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 2: your eleven months of service abroad. We're glad to have 563 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 2: you back. And the comments are pretty interesting, uh oh, 564 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 2: because they do range from thank you for showing up 565 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: for these men and women. This is leadership, complimenting the governor. 566 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 2: But then you go on and somebody else SA's great 567 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: work and recognition, governor, keep it up. How about the 568 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 2: sheriff corruption case it disappeared, Oline Alter, Yeah, somebody else said, 569 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 2: commented what you were thinking. We apologe, we Hoosiers, apologize 570 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: for you having to listen to this deep state operative. 571 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: First thing back, Oh but we love you National Guard. 572 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so what are the like You know me, I'm 573 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: fully supportive of everybody telling Mike Brown a consistent basis 574 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: what a lying, backstabbing, dishonest, deceitful piece of trash that 575 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: he is. However, I think on the nash like the 576 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: heroic nature of those amongst us posts like if you're 577 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: honoring the military or some police officer fireman who did 578 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: something great, or aren't there certain posts where you just 579 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: got to be like okay, we'll we'll let this one go. 580 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: And if you can't just say thanks for your service. 581 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: Probably just don't say anything at all. 582 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, nope, there were many comments. These people don't want 583 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: to hear you. They went off the plane to see 584 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: their families. 585 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: Well, and it's like, you hate this because Braun deserves 586 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: whatever whatever torment he gets. But you know, these people 587 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: are just out serving their country, and you know, I 588 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: just kind of think maybe I'd leave that one alone 589 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: and just scroll to the next post and tell Braun 590 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: how Rotteney is. 591 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 2: Ron Quit using the helicopter to fly her from on 592 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: the town every five minutes. It's costing taxpayers tons of money. 593 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, what what are we doing? We have one segment 594 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: left to do. I don't know if you're keeping trying, 595 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: but we have one segment left in our award winning 596 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: program today. What are we doing? 597 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: We could talk about the College Football Playoffs Selection Committee. 598 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: They've got some very interesting new Like I was blown 599 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: away that this wasn't already a thing that they. 600 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: Were considering emphasis. 601 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, like this this blew my mind. It's like, really, 602 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: we didn't do this already. This is very interesting to me. 603 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: It's kind of like Casey, it's ninety three, wibc's a 604 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: couple of weeks. 605 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: Casey, Notre Dame is back. Of course, real college football 606 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: begins this weekend. There is actually a it's taking place 607 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: in Dublin. It's a very weird thing than in Dublin, Ireland. 608 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: It's gonna be Iowa State against Kansas State, but those 609 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: are two ranked teams. So we have legitimate football this weekend. 610 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: And there was this big change that they've made to 611 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,239 Speaker 1: how they're so in college football. I'm assume most people know, 612 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: but maybe for those who don't. College football now has 613 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: a playoff system. It's much smaller, but it's much like 614 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament, where there's a selection committee. They picked 615 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: twelve teams and then they play in a tournament style. 616 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: You know, when you advance, lose, you go home, you're done, 617 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: and there is a there is there are criteria that 618 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: they that this committee who picks the teams is supposed 619 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: to look at. And one of the things that I 620 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: guess now has official weight to it but did not 621 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: last year, which blows my mind is the strength of 622 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: scheduled that a team played. 623 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: Yet teams are going to be awarded more for playing 624 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: and beating strong opponents. 625 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: So for example, I you made it in last year, 626 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: with just one regular season loss that was at Ohio State, 627 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: and they were in that game for a while and 628 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: then ultimately it ended up not being all that closed, 629 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: but they were at least some one competitive. However, their 630 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: preseason schedule was a complete dumpster fire, and they have 631 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: now openly said, because of the way the college football 632 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: playoff system is orchestrated, we're going to keep the goober 633 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: team preseason schedule because we just want to win as 634 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: many games as we can and we think of they 635 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: didn't say this directly, but if they lose only two games, 636 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: they'll probably get in being a Big Ten school. So 637 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: they said, well, what incentive do we have to play 638 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: a tougher schedule and risk a loss versus just piling 639 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: up the wins and trying to get through the Big 640 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: ten schedule. Now, apparently that is somewhat being addressed based 641 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: on there will be an actual weighted portion to the 642 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: strength of your schedule. 643 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 2: Not only will teams be rewarded for playing and beating 644 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 2: strong opponents, but losses to weaker teams they're going to 645 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: be penalized for that as well. So they say the 646 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: purpose of the change is to add objective data points 647 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: to help the committee rank the teams more fairly. It 648 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 2: also encourages the teams to schedule tougher opponents, including lots 649 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 2: of non conference play. It aims to prevent easier schedules 650 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: from being unfairly rewarded, and it addresses some of the 651 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: past controversies like the Indiana game that you mentioned. 652 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this this will be very interesting to see 653 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: how this plays out this year because I I don't 654 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: mean to be I'm not trying to be callous by 655 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: saying this, but nobody cares about Boise State like nobody 656 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: cares about Arizona State. 657 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: Uce you're into that blue end zone. 658 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: Well right, I mean, you know, And and Boise State 659 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: had arguably the best player in college football last year, 660 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: the running back Jante who is now at the Raiders. 661 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: And Arizona State had the Scataboo kid who was like 662 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 1: a bowling ball and that was fun to watch. But 663 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: in terms of hey, we're putting our best feet forward here, 664 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: in terms of a national audience, let's face it, ninety 665 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: percent of the interest is Big ten and SEC and 666 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: everything else. You know, some acc to a certain extent, 667 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: but it's just a bunch of also rans. So it'll 668 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,719 Speaker 1: be interesting to see. This is a business, it's television product. 669 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: They're doing this. They went to this playoff system to 670 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: make money. And in terms of making money from advertisers, 671 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: what you care most about our eyeballs on your product? 672 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: And there are a lot more people going to watch 673 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: the fifth or sixth best team in the Big ten 674 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: versus Boise State. I'm sorry. So it'll be very fascina 675 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: to see how this thing continues to evolve as they 676 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: try to figure out how to maximize the profit out 677 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: of it. 678 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: So the first ranking will be November fourth, that's right, 679 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: first Notre Dame game. 680 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: August. Well, I was going to say, it's what it's too, 681 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: it's next. It's next week, right. 682 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 2: August thirty first, seven thirty. 683 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah against Miami. Yes, yeah, yeah, that's a Saturday. 684 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 2: No, it's a Sunday. 685 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 1: It is a Sunday. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Labor Day 686 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: is September first, which is Monday. I got a shoot? 687 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: What I got a bartend that night? 688 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 2: Oh, well, maybe they'll have a TV there. Where are 689 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 2: you bartending at the golf club? 690 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: I am doing a private event. 691 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: Oh you were hired out? 692 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: If I was hired out, I come in for your. 693 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 2: For your witty, well parkling conversation abilities. I did this, 694 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 2: will you mix a cocktail? 695 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: I did this two years ago a person who I 696 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: know very well. They have a big get together with 697 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: all their friends and they were like, people would love 698 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: to meet Rob Kendall and have him serve them drinks. 699 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: So they hired me to come out and apparently went 700 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: well enough that they said, hey, we'd love to have 701 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: you come. 702 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 2: Back, come back to it again. 703 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: And I accepted this engagement. 704 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 2: Not realizing, not realizing the day play on a Sunday. 705 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 2: Do you think you would get more attractive to those partygoers? 706 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 2: Is than I cos on if you do your job 707 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: correctly right? 708 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: I look, I love the bartending like I would not 709 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: I would not want to be a like career bartender, 710 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 1: but I love doing the one ops. If you want 711 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: me to like your event, let me know Rob at 712 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: WIBC dot com. I love going to meeting people. It's 713 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: perfect for me. I can do it. You know. It's 714 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: a few hours of time, five six hours skooodle on 715 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: out the door with a wat of hundreds in my 716 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: pocket and go about my life. 717 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 2: You're a great conversationalists. You ask a lot of questions. 718 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: Don you meet new people, I make. 719 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: You feel like I actually care. 720 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: That things to say right before you do it? 721 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I've al'd even hired for this one case, they 722 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: cannot hire me. 723 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 2: Okay, do you have any idea what most people say 724 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: is the perfect salary? The average perfect salary that Americans 725 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 2: would say would make them fine financially. 726 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: Have fifty three billion. 727 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 2: No, it's a reasonable number. Like I'm not talking like 728 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 2: I want to make a million dollars. 729 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: Well, this depends on where you live, right, because one 730 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars in Indiana can get you a middle 731 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: class life that probably couldn't stretch nearly as far in 732 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: say New York, right. 733 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 2: Or California. Here in Indiana, well, this is in India. 734 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 2: The average perfect salary that would make you feel financially 735 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 2: happy is much higher than what the actual average salary is. 736 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 2: But it's not it's one hundred and fifty thousand, much lower. 737 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: It's lower. 738 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 2: Seventy four thousand. Oh, that's the average perfect salary the people. So, yeah, 739 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 2: that puts me in a good. 740 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: Pay Yes, And you know a big part of it 741 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: is how much work do you want to do? Like 742 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to do work. I've worked enough. That's 743 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: why I like this job. Right There's other jobs I 744 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: could go to, probably and make more money, but I 745 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: have someone who does all the work for me, puts 746 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: up with me. I'm out the door at noon and 747 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: I go home and take my nap and watch my stories. 748 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not getting I'm not getting rid of that. 749 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: I'd you know. I think it depends on what level 750 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: of motivation you're at in your life, how much you 751 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: want to work. And there's a lot of people who 752 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: make more money, but they're not necessarily happy in their career, 753 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: but they like the money more than they like the 754 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: happiness at the workplace. 755 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 2: Speaking of working, more than a third of Americans are 756 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: actively looking for a new job right now. 757 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: Very good every Thursday, I think that's going to be us. 758 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: But we've apparently made it to the end of the 759 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 1: show and nobody said come see us, So I think 760 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: we've got another week to go. 761 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 2: Casey, check your email. Thank you, thank you, BROV, thank 762 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 2: you Kevin, thank you for listening today. It's Kendallly Casey 763 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 2: on ninety three WIBC