Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Frames per Second Podcast. Well, today we
Speaker 2: are revisiting the popular which we'll get into Film ATL
Speaker 2: about the show the movie starring Ti starring Lauren London
Speaker 2: and the host of other people you told you that
Speaker 2: have forgotten. Well, first, before I do that, let me
Speaker 2: introduce everybody this here with me. I got Mike, got Rod,
Speaker 2: and I got Ken here with me. All right, So
Speaker 2: this is a two thousand and six film. We're doing
Speaker 2: a twenty year anniversary for so I believe this is
Speaker 2: on Patreon. This is the debut directorial debut for Chris Robinson,
Speaker 2: who was a music video director prior to this. This
Speaker 2: is a coming of age story based off teenage life
Speaker 2: in the ATL. I didn't know this, but illis Austin
Speaker 2: and t bars Or the influences for this. And it
Speaker 2: also says here which I don't believe this, but it's his.
Speaker 2: The screenplay was written by Tina Gordon Chisholm from an
Speaker 2: original story by Antoine Fisher. Hmm, wait the movie the
Speaker 2: guy that the movie is about? Oh yeah, wrote the originals.
Speaker 1: I don't believe why don't you believe it? I just
Speaker 1: don't believe it will Smith had something to do with this.
Speaker 2: See t I recently said that he was really like
Speaker 2: blowing this opportunity when he first got it because he
Speaker 2: didn't he was so popular in music that he didn't
Speaker 2: think that he needed it. So he said he was
Speaker 2: showing up to set late and doing a whole host
Speaker 2: of things to get him kicked off the movie, and Chris.
Speaker 3: Robinson pulled him to the side.
Speaker 2: He told him, this may not seem like much to you,
Speaker 2: but everybody else in this movie this is a big
Speaker 2: opportunity for them because of you and the biggest name
Speaker 2: attached to it. So if I have to kick you off,
Speaker 2: the movie is probably gonna be bad for me as
Speaker 2: a director. Yeah, getting looks moving forward with Lauren London,
Speaker 2: all of those people. So he recently talked about this
Speaker 2: on the podcast and how he tried to put his
Speaker 2: best foot forward after he was so much done.
Speaker 1: Lauren London a favor. Yeah, but Will Smith was a producer.
Speaker 1: He was a producer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he I remember this through his production company Overbrooke Entertainment. Okay,
Speaker 4: mm hmm perfect.
Speaker 2: So again, the film is a coming of age tail
Speaker 2: concerning Rashad played by t I and his film debut
Speaker 2: and his high school friends and they final year of
Speaker 2: high school. Mike revisiting the movie, atl what'd you think.
Speaker 5: I can't really say I'm revisiting because I don't think
Speaker 5: I've ever sat down and watched this whole.
Speaker 1: Thing all the way on until now. At man. Huh,
Speaker 1: that's right, I'm not I'm not. Damn right.
Speaker 5: It's fine for what it is. There are some major issues,
Speaker 5: the main one being Lauren London.
Speaker 1: Oh you're gonna lie say she's not terrible? Are y'all serious?
Speaker 1: I'm the only one. She's bad, bro, she played the role. No,
Speaker 1: she did not. She's really bad. Man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course he's hot. Sure, that's not what I
Speaker 5: was saying. I was hoping that's what you were saying.
Speaker 5: You can't be saying she's a good actress. But you know,
Speaker 5: it's not something I would ever watch again. And I
Speaker 5: will say this. I don't know if this is a
Speaker 5: commonly known thing, but big Boy.
Speaker 1: Basically had this movie on his back.
Speaker 5: He was the only one where I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: he's killing every single student.
Speaker 1: Then, so respectful, goddamn god, damn money He'll take in
Speaker 1: the house.
Speaker 3: I'll put this belt on.
Speaker 1: I put this belt to you.
Speaker 6: There was conversation about his performance in the movie.
Speaker 3: It was when it came out people who I think
Speaker 3: it is?
Speaker 6: Yeah, which is a mean yes that people use like
Speaker 6: in group chats and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do that.
Speaker 7: They do videos and clip from movies and ship when
Speaker 7: they talking, and he was good.
Speaker 3: What do you think about revisiting atl So I.
Speaker 1: Was agreeing with you. I was like, man, oh, yes,
Speaker 1: you can't ever tell what you Yeah, yeah, she was
Speaker 1: going back.
Speaker 4: I'm like, god, she was terrible because I always rocked that.
Speaker 7: That new ship.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I was like, man, she was that bad.
Speaker 4: I didn't remember her being that bad when it's when
Speaker 4: it's but but I'm also with Mike, was like, it's fine,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I think they did a
Speaker 4: good job at mixing decent actors in with the bad ones.
Speaker 1: Who was the decent actor? I thought, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I was okay. Esquire was pretty good. Jason Wheeler, we
Speaker 1: knew him. He was fine.
Speaker 4: He was like good comic relief, you know, the one
Speaker 4: that plays the father. He's always the same guy. But
Speaker 4: he's a decent actor for what he does.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, you're talking about before it's good.
Speaker 1: He's a really good actor. What's his name, I can't remember, David?
Speaker 5: Yeah, great after him in person too, like he's cool,
Speaker 5: and tell him he wasn't good in at L to
Speaker 5: his face.
Speaker 4: No, I said he was, I said, I said, That's
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. They mixed it in with good, good actors.
Speaker 4: I think, you know, so Yeah, I think they did
Speaker 4: a good job with that. I didn't even like his brother,
Speaker 4: the little kid. I think he was fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but yeah, it was really just new New
Speaker 1: and the twins. Yeah, the twins.
Speaker 4: They were funny, but like they you know, dialogue was trashgrash, but.
Speaker 1: Nah, you'a.
Speaker 4: Overall, I liked it a lot better when I first
Speaker 4: watched it than the second watch.
Speaker 3: I say that, Kim, what did you think about this time?
Speaker 7: I think it holds up as a moment in time,
Speaker 7: like all those songs, bro. You know, I know every
Speaker 7: damn song, I remember the moment, and you know, I
Speaker 7: think it's one of those like new Age like sort
Speaker 7: of hood classics.
Speaker 1: I think ATL holds up, bro, it's a hood at
Speaker 1: holds up bro, hood classics.
Speaker 4: It is strong. But I'm talking new age though, like
Speaker 4: not up there with what paid like baby.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like one of those new modern day or maybe
Speaker 7: it's a better word to say, like like when you know,
Speaker 7: because we all knew to ya, we all knew big boy.
Speaker 7: You know, it's a very common story that we all knew.
Speaker 7: I don't think we've had I think about it. Have
Speaker 7: we gotten the movie as good as this sense that time?
Speaker 3: I think Peydon fod came out after this.
Speaker 1: He came out after this is O six.
Speaker 2: Paindif peyton food came out of nine? I believe really
Speaker 2: that problem, I don't think so. I remember it came
Speaker 2: out like around my time my daughter was born. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh two two, But what else has really
Speaker 2: dropped since that? I get paying Okay, yeah, this was
Speaker 2: a moment. I agree with you about it being a
Speaker 2: moment in time. I did remember as I looked at it.
Speaker 2: I remember I remember this being cool. However, I'm conflicted
Speaker 2: about it, and I think it could be one of
Speaker 2: those hood it would I think it would be mentioned
Speaker 2: with it more favorably if there was a little bit
Speaker 2: more grit to it.
Speaker 3: I think this was too like childish.
Speaker 1: Hm hmm.
Speaker 2: If I was expecting at l you're telling me to
Speaker 2: be dark, it didn't even have to be dark, just
Speaker 2: a little bit grittier. I didn't even think that the
Speaker 2: Big Boy and you.
Speaker 1: Said it was too safe. Yeah, it was very very safe.
Speaker 4: Why can't black folks have That's what I'm thinking. A
Speaker 4: nice was at l like Ahl had his dark spots.
Speaker 4: But for the most part, a lot of dudes like
Speaker 4: they like to skate, they like to dance.
Speaker 1: It wasn't wrong with no. I just Jesus, I feel
Speaker 1: like it be taking.
Speaker 3: It would be taken more seriously if it did have
Speaker 3: more grit.
Speaker 1: I would say I think it was taken seriously. I
Speaker 1: don't know people like a cl Man. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: ATL had definitely was it back then?
Speaker 2: It was, but you see how you had to use
Speaker 2: context and say it wasn't boys in the hood of
Speaker 2: minutes in society.
Speaker 7: And that's why I said modern day though, like every
Speaker 7: generation evolved and tell different sort of stories, and I
Speaker 7: think we probably got tired of motherfuckers done in movies.
Speaker 2: Nobody had to die. I liked the movie. It reminded
Speaker 2: me of my high school. I remember being like that,
Speaker 2: but I wasn't a senior. That was one thing about it, too,
Speaker 2: Like I remember being like that maybe the ninth and
Speaker 2: tenth grade. So I felt like they acted kind of
Speaker 2: under the age whatever, maybe with the age, But I
Speaker 2: wasn't mad at.
Speaker 1: It, because what grit do you want them? Do you think.
Speaker 2: I could have spent more time with and kind of
Speaker 2: work through that process of like him discovering he didn't
Speaker 2: need to do that. I could have spent more time
Speaker 2: with t I in the cleaning business and in that
Speaker 2: sense of like how you made the money and it
Speaker 2: was telling him like, bro, you don't got.
Speaker 1: To do that to have bank rolls. Yeah, but he
Speaker 1: did take him three years. But yeah, and no one
Speaker 1: wants to watch three years of t I cleaning off.
Speaker 7: Do you remember when do y'all remember when that was
Speaker 7: the thing, those cleaning businesses, getting cleaning business?
Speaker 1: That was a band. Yeah, like, man, can contracts? Get
Speaker 1: you some contracts? Yeah? Yeah, still do it? Yeah? Man? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was that ship was dope. Uh. So
Speaker 1: we meet yeah, yeah, and Ben Machines.
Speaker 2: We meet Rishard and his little brother and aunt that's
Speaker 2: staying with the uncle George because their dad has died.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, the mom and dad died in a car accident.
Speaker 2: What did you guys think about the living situation, Uncle
Speaker 2: George everything when you first met them.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to see if that's a relatable thing. What's
Speaker 4: that like, living with like an uncle kind of taking
Speaker 4: in the kids, i' know, us taking in an uncle,
Speaker 4: like I don't know, know any situations about uncle like yeah,
Speaker 4: well if you know, I've seen that, though I couldn't,
Speaker 4: I couldn't relate to that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it just seemed too far off base.
Speaker 7: I think it made sense, and I think he explained
Speaker 7: it well when he was talking about like you could
Speaker 7: have been in a foster you know, home, and I
Speaker 7: took you basically put my life on hold for yah,
Speaker 7: I got it, you know, And I think, yeah, I
Speaker 7: mean well, maybe to answer your question right in terms
Speaker 7: of like being relatable, I think most of the time
Speaker 7: they go with the grandparents, And yeah, at least when
Speaker 7: I was growing up, So I don't know if that
Speaker 7: changed over.
Speaker 1: Time, but I've seen the I uncle Dan.
Speaker 2: And to ask your pointing about the grittiness, that could
Speaker 2: have been something too, because a lot of that was
Speaker 2: just explored through conversation.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind having more of the uncle's stuff.
Speaker 1: I thought you about saying I wanted to see them
Speaker 1: the parents die.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no no, just like like the uncle said,
Speaker 2: like I put my life on hold for y'all. It
Speaker 2: ain't uh, I'm waiting around for y'all to grow up.
Speaker 2: Like I literally had to stop what I'm doing to
Speaker 2: come take care of y'all. So the state wouldn't take y'all.
Speaker 2: Like they could explore that a little bit more. Maybe
Speaker 2: that would have gave.
Speaker 1: Me some grit.
Speaker 2: But it didn't have to be killed or anything. I just
Speaker 2: wanted to see something like that. But what how'd you
Speaker 2: feel about the cast rod Esquire or uncle or brother.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought they did. It was good casting in
Speaker 1: my opinion.
Speaker 4: It seemed like homeboys, and you got the homeboy that's
Speaker 4: usually older and han't hadn't got out of high school yet,
Speaker 4: just joking around, clowning, and then like in some cases
Speaker 4: you might have somebody from New York and your crew
Speaker 4: that moved from from from a different area.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I thought that was very accurate. I did.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 4: Like it was just weird seeing TI in that like
Speaker 4: at first, so I do get you on that because
Speaker 4: I was used to seeing TI as hardcore dude, but
Speaker 4: he was just a dude that, you know, rolled around
Speaker 4: on skates like you know, I don't know, it was
Speaker 4: just it was it was a little different to see
Speaker 4: him around that time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: I think the casts worked well. Honestly, I think they
Speaker 7: it seemed like they had really good chemistry.
Speaker 1: Together, you know, rewatching it Mike, she came wa wah. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So uh yeah, So all that was that was I forgot.
Speaker 7: I forgot like you had Brooklyn because there's always a
Speaker 7: guy from out of out of state, out of town somewhere.
Speaker 7: You have the really smart go Esquire because you had
Speaker 7: cousins that came like California and ship like yeah yea,
Speaker 7: so it was relatable to a degree. And then you
Speaker 7: had a uh that was Jason Weaver. Y'all remember Jason Weaver.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: He most famously known for the Lion King, right well,
Speaker 4: Lion King, and he played Mike. I think he played
Speaker 4: young Mike, an American.
Speaker 1: He was on a sitcom, that's what.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was on the sitcom to yeah, I think
Speaker 7: he was in the sitcom. But he had like one
Speaker 7: or two albums. He had one album out that had like, uh,
Speaker 7: I know that a song called I Can't Stand the
Speaker 7: Pain and some love of ambition. But it wasn't like
Speaker 7: he was supposed to be like the next big like star.
Speaker 1: He was supposed to be Nick Cannon something like that.
Speaker 2: I guess because he was a drum line too, right,
Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah, he played in a popular sitcom,
Speaker 2: Smart Guy.
Speaker 1: That's it. Yep, that's it. No, I like I like him.
Speaker 1: I'm a him in person too. Was just a smart guy.
Speaker 1: Was a smart guy.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: I don't even Wow, that was really bad. I like him.
Speaker 2: I like him, all right, So we see the t
Speaker 2: I is not really he didn't come off as his
Speaker 2: character shot. I don't really come off as motivated. He's
Speaker 2: just working to get through high school.
Speaker 1: Get by.
Speaker 2: What they're really interested in is winning the skate championship.
Speaker 2: Did the skating aspect of it worked for y'all that
Speaker 2: that was such a priority and a big deal.
Speaker 4: Because I know, I know Atlanta, and I know Cascade
Speaker 4: is very popular here.
Speaker 1: So oh yeah, that definitely worked for me. It hit
Speaker 1: the skate hit for you. No, I didn't care about
Speaker 1: the skating at all. Uh, it might have.
Speaker 5: It might have meant more if they brought it home,
Speaker 5: but they didn't really bring it home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they bought the art stuff home or so.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they made it seem like he was really into
Speaker 5: the art. And then they didn't really focus much on
Speaker 5: the actual competition thing where they would like to have
Speaker 5: the skate competitions.
Speaker 1: So I didn't really care about that.
Speaker 4: I think it was just an opportunity to give that culture,
Speaker 4: skating culture or shine because I think it was a
Speaker 4: real cruise out of Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't even focus on them.
Speaker 5: We never even really had any kind of scenes with
Speaker 5: the other skate crews. It was like they just mentioned them,
Speaker 5: you know, they.
Speaker 4: Showed their moments, they had their moments. It was just
Speaker 4: like they got see how they bounced in or whatever.
Speaker 1: They right, But there was no interaction between the two crews.
Speaker 4: No, no, I feel you on that part. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I think it was just an opportunity just to show them.
Speaker 1: Did you like the skating King, Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: think it was.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what Rod said kind of captured and reflected the
Speaker 7: times that that Cascade shit and that skate ship was
Speaker 7: was the thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Now do I buy t I out there skating?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 7: No, we didn't even see I always saw his shoulders
Speaker 7: every time he was supposed to be skating. Bro Any
Speaker 7: face of t I on the skate.
Speaker 1: You don't think I can skate? Not like that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I would take t I skating the
Speaker 5: same way I don't take ice cube playing basketball.
Speaker 1: And today it was a good day. It just doesn't
Speaker 1: it doesn't fit. Oh.
Speaker 4: No, I think at dudes be skating because I know
Speaker 4: you know that, but T I don't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because uh, Jermaine du Prix. Yeah, I can see
Speaker 5: Jermaine pre skating. Yeah he's small, he's low to the ground.
Speaker 5: That makes sense, I mean.
Speaker 1: Short, yeah, yeah, yeah, that the same size as Jamaine.
Speaker 2: No, really, and just think about it. Your guy like this. No,
Speaker 2: I hated this when it came out because he was
Speaker 2: my guy.
Speaker 3: It was too like.
Speaker 2: I appreciated it now more watching it this time. Probably
Speaker 2: that I do when when the first came and I
Speaker 2: hated this, I don't think you have buyers because of that.
Speaker 2: I hated it because I wanted I wanted it to
Speaker 2: be like.
Speaker 3: What you say.
Speaker 1: It probably made ILL look too goofy for him, so
Speaker 1: you wanted.
Speaker 3: To I wanted to be like Minutes in Society and
Speaker 3: Boys in the Hood or.
Speaker 1: Something like that. Well, motherfuckers to die.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to grit pistol on the side.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys knew this, but a
Speaker 2: C is for honors classes. Like the teacher said in
Speaker 2: the movie, she told the kid.
Speaker 1: The only one.
Speaker 3: He told us, so you did.
Speaker 1: That was funny.
Speaker 3: That's what I was leading up to it.
Speaker 2: Then we see and and we see that he he
Speaker 2: wants to strive for more than what t I does.
Speaker 2: It seems like whether that be selling drugs or just
Speaker 2: not being happy with his current state. Did y'all like
Speaker 2: the Little brother's character, y'all like the position that they
Speaker 2: put him in as far as being the gritty side
Speaker 2: of this movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that was familiar for me.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that that made sense, even the uncle not
Speaker 4: having an issue with it per se, Like, well, I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, I won't hurt for him to bringing a
Speaker 4: little money. He's gonna do what he gonna do regardless.
Speaker 4: That's why I like Snowfall so much. But so yeah,
Speaker 4: that that was very relatable.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I like how they used it, you know,
Speaker 7: as almost like a counterbalance to the other part of
Speaker 7: the movie, you know, with Esquire and him going a
Speaker 7: different path. So I thought it was good showing both
Speaker 7: sides of this story.
Speaker 4: I like that too, and that's what I'm saying. It
Speaker 4: was real, real well rounded friend group. It was since
Speaker 4: you got those type of friends, really smart friend when
Speaker 4: they're gonna kind of go towards the streets, like yeah,
Speaker 4: they did a good job with that.
Speaker 7: You can get caught up in that stuff, bro, Like
Speaker 7: it happened just like that and you don't know it
Speaker 7: because you see that lifestyle and see what they rolling.
Speaker 1: On and stuff like that, you want and you want it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 5: I literally have a friend named Brooklyn and we call
Speaker 5: him Brooklyn because he's from New York.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: He was talking like that, son, Yo, did y'all like
Speaker 2: New York atl slang conversation?
Speaker 5: It was funny. It was funny especially I'm sure it was.
Speaker 5: It hit hard for the time facts, So yeah, it
Speaker 5: was funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like they could have did it.
Speaker 4: I feel like they could have took it there with
Speaker 4: the shot of this, shot of that, because that when
Speaker 4: I first moved here, that.
Speaker 1: Ship was like, oh yeah, I was like, what are
Speaker 1: y'all saying? It was a lot everybody, God damn.
Speaker 8: About to go got down to the store like that
Speaker 8: with the dude that was Ashley Larry Right, what's the
Speaker 8: name Chappelle show?
Speaker 7: Donald was I don't understand the thing you saying. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I think that m I think so.
Speaker 1: Look like him. He looked kind of chubby. Maybe it
Speaker 1: was him. That's funny.
Speaker 2: I know this bone Crusher, Killer Mike and Monica's cameos
Speaker 2: and gip.
Speaker 1: At the end, I forgot killing Mike. Where was killing Mike?
Speaker 2: When big Boy went to go feed the dogs with
Speaker 2: the killer Mike was standing on the porch tilling them
Speaker 2: up because dude was trying to tell him to eat
Speaker 2: salads and ship He's like Nigga burgers.
Speaker 1: I didn't see that.
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Speaker 2: So y'all lived to this. In the beginning of a
Speaker 2: little bit, we'll talk about the rest of the cast.
Speaker 2: What y'all think about New New as the leading lady.
Speaker 1: Not everybody at once. I get it.
Speaker 5: She's fine, fun as hell, but she's not a good
Speaker 5: actress first role, first and last per stuff that makes sense,
Speaker 5: not like a real movie.
Speaker 4: And she was the one on White People and one
Speaker 4: of y'all don't like. But I like with you on
Speaker 4: the Hill. It was a Netflix movie.
Speaker 1: With white people that I like. She was dating.
Speaker 4: The movie was called White People. It was Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 4: Eddie Murphy was her father, and she was Dayton Jones Hill.
Speaker 4: She was dating Jon the Hill.
Speaker 5: So she got better then, Yeah, she got better, not much,
Speaker 5: but but yeah, but y'all didn't like it.
Speaker 1: Though I don't even remember in the movie. I remember her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was better in it. I thought she was fine
Speaker 1: in it. She's fine and everything. I mean. I thought
Speaker 1: she was, you know, fine actress, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Did y'all?
Speaker 2: So, did y'all like the dynamic the New New brought
Speaker 2: as far as being t i's love interest being mysterious.
Speaker 2: When y'all were first watching it, I know your first
Speaker 2: time Mike watching it, Like, did you see what it
Speaker 2: was leading up to?
Speaker 5: No, it went led up to that. That's when this
Speaker 5: movie completely fell apart from me. I was like, this
Speaker 5: is fucking stupid. This is stupid. This is why he's mad.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 5: I was irritated, and I was like, I can I
Speaker 5: believe this is a fucking classic.
Speaker 2: This is dumb. That was my initial thoughts when I
Speaker 2: watched it too. That was one of the reasons I
Speaker 2: didn't like it. When I watched it, I had to
Speaker 2: get over it. I was like, Bro, that don't make sense.
Speaker 2: They needed more motive. Yes, it definitely needed more reason
Speaker 2: for him to be that upset. Bro, Come on, but
Speaker 2: I guess he felt like she was lying to him
Speaker 2: what he was who cares?
Speaker 1: Let it go? She likes you. You got mon, man,
Speaker 1: what's up? Let's stay around, let's go the are we
Speaker 1: talking about? Be your man? Forever?
Speaker 5: Would be taking about marriage? Yeah, that didn't make any sense.
Speaker 5: What did you think about to reveal the acting?
Speaker 1: Anything?
Speaker 6: Not much of anything. It's just love interest, you know.
Speaker 7: I don't put too much stock into a movie like this,
Speaker 7: into stuff like that, especially two thousand and six. Yeah,
Speaker 7: this this seemed like something basic enough for people kind
Speaker 7: of following and get so, and they really didn't go
Speaker 7: anywhere with it outside of the selling out thing that
Speaker 7: they were trying to allude to, and Esquire basically kind
Speaker 7: of going along with that, like they were talking about,
Speaker 7: you know, his soul situation. So yeah, they ain'tna do
Speaker 7: much with it, you know, And I think they could have,
Speaker 7: but they ain't.
Speaker 1: Trying to write that type of movie.
Speaker 3: So you talked about Esquire his situation.
Speaker 2: John Garnett was a billionaire, famous philanthropist or whatever it
Speaker 2: may be, a character in this movie, and Esquire wants
Speaker 2: his approval, wants him to write him a letter. He
Speaker 2: goes out there, he finds out who knew who is
Speaker 2: y'all think he should have told his friend.
Speaker 5: I mean, now, yeah, because of the way t I reacted,
Speaker 5: But in the time, I was just like, who fucking cares?
Speaker 5: And I just even the dad when he's just like,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell my daddy if.
Speaker 1: You tell him that I'm from here. So I don't
Speaker 1: tell you daddy.
Speaker 5: Recommendation though I know, but I didn't really understand what
Speaker 5: the big deal was. Why was it a big deal
Speaker 5: where he was from. Why couldn't he lead with that, like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I live down here, sir, but I am trying to
Speaker 5: get out. I'm trying to get a better life. It's
Speaker 5: just the way everyone was acting in this movie was
Speaker 5: just like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: What is happening here? I don't understand there could be perception.
Speaker 2: Well, I think he hit on it a little bit,
Speaker 2: but they didn't do a good job. But when he
Speaker 2: when he found out that where ed Squire was from,
Speaker 2: and he thought that he had an arterial motive just
Speaker 2: to use him, that he didn't really look up to him,
Speaker 2: that he didn't really appreciate what he had done as
Speaker 2: a business man. You just want to use me because
Speaker 2: I'm up, don't. I agree with him. It's stupid, but
Speaker 2: I think that's what they were leading into, been.
Speaker 5: Like, yo, I look up to you because you got
Speaker 5: out of this area.
Speaker 1: He didn't really.
Speaker 5: Okay, But even if he didn't realize, you're right, if
Speaker 5: he just said, look, I look up to you because
Speaker 5: you make me want to aspire to be better, want
Speaker 5: to get out of this area and do better things.
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, if you could.
Speaker 5: Write this letter for me so I can go to
Speaker 5: this school, that would be amazing. I still understand the
Speaker 5: whole like I'm hide and run from because it didn't.
Speaker 5: I don't remember him saying the Keith David character. I
Speaker 5: don't remember him saying anything when they first met that
Speaker 5: made it make sense that he would hide where he's from.
Speaker 1: He did what he said.
Speaker 7: Yeah, when they first met, he was like, Uh, you're
Speaker 7: not from a Skeenicsville, are you? And he was like, no, sir,
Speaker 7: I'm not from that, you know, something like that.
Speaker 1: So he looked down.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so he did, which you know, I think was
Speaker 7: interesting because he was from that as well. So again
Speaker 7: they really didn't have the conversation about that whole thing.
Speaker 1: It really was Now I got to.
Speaker 7: Put a lot into kind of the things that they
Speaker 7: were trying to say in terms of, of course the
Speaker 7: obvious selling out but you know, and not owning who
Speaker 7: you were. And Esquire was walking along that same path,
Speaker 7: you know, not being honest about who he was. He
Speaker 7: didn't realized that until it came down to New New
Speaker 7: but he was being fake too, you know, and it
Speaker 7: took Tiya to call him out.
Speaker 1: Now, why Tia was mad at him.
Speaker 7: It didn't make sense, like, why are you men because
Speaker 7: he didn't tell you that this girl was from you know,
Speaker 7: this privileged background in place, and you should be happy
Speaker 7: one that he's trying to.
Speaker 1: Make it out.
Speaker 2: Your man is supposed to tell you though, that's your friend.
Speaker 2: He's supposed to tell you.
Speaker 1: I guess, but you know.
Speaker 7: And then the whole thing they were saying, Yeah, he
Speaker 7: goes to these clubs, and you know, he rips off
Speaker 7: these white folks and he's pret again being somebody that
Speaker 7: he really isn't. You also saw that with Ant's character
Speaker 7: trying to be somebody he isn't as well. And that's
Speaker 7: really kind of this whole thing because New New was
Speaker 7: doing the same thing whatever. And then you have a
Speaker 7: and this is where I thought they really could have
Speaker 7: did something because when they were in the club, in
Speaker 7: the club, which is a different club like the White
Speaker 7: Folks Club, when they first introduced John Garnett and he
Speaker 7: was like, yeah, about six quarters in the black and
Speaker 7: he's talking all kind of that's John David's voice, but
Speaker 7: he's talking that way Keith David. And then you saw
Speaker 7: them zoom in and focus on the picture. They had
Speaker 7: the Confederate flag on it, And here's this guy that's
Speaker 7: from this place, that went to this club that is
Speaker 7: rooted in the Confederacy and racism and all the other.
Speaker 1: Stuff, till he not being himself either.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's basically what it's cross at some point. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so that you kind of lost yourself.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like you're you're more concerned about making it out
Speaker 7: that you're willing to be among white people that don't
Speaker 7: even really fuck with you.
Speaker 1: It's the whole forgetting what you came from. Ye.
Speaker 2: So you mentioned at let's jump into this storyline a
Speaker 2: little bit. He's infatuated with fast money. It seems like
Speaker 2: wants to do something different from what his brother does.
Speaker 2: See his homeboy at the pool, lose aut his money
Speaker 2: in the pool, asking where you get it from? Here,
Speaker 2: introduce his and to his cousin, which is played by
Speaker 2: Big Boy. What did y'all think about this whole storyline
Speaker 2: from top to bottom in the sense of answer progression,
Speaker 2: him getting in trouble and then did he learn his lesson?
Speaker 4: Did did the guy that he called a narc? Did
Speaker 4: he sneaks read him out?
Speaker 1: Is that what he did? Okay?
Speaker 4: I never lose that's why he kept asking, kept pressing
Speaker 4: him in as soon as he actually accept okay, what.
Speaker 3: You need because he was trying to get back Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Very next scene the dogs show up, right.
Speaker 7: I do agree they could have done a lot more
Speaker 7: with this, and maybe they didn't want to go him
Speaker 7: into society boys in the hood sort of route, but
Speaker 7: just show that good kids that are smart can get
Speaker 7: caught up in this in this world and chasing fast
Speaker 7: money because he didn't like how he was making money.
Speaker 7: And but I'm kind of glad they didn't kind of
Speaker 7: do the hole uh that they didn't go there, and
Speaker 7: they kept a little bit more light, you know, just
Speaker 7: him chasing it. But I think it did give us
Speaker 7: some of the best moments with Big Boy, especially when
Speaker 7: he went to the dog scene and stuff like you're
Speaker 7: not scared of dogs. I was like, boo, why are
Speaker 7: you almost with you whatever? He said, I'm already losing
Speaker 7: money with you.
Speaker 1: You put on the ground and he used in the boom.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but but nah, I think they they could have
Speaker 7: done more with him, but.
Speaker 6: And I felt like there was a missed opportunity there.
Speaker 5: Mike, would you think about Aunt's storyline? I only cared
Speaker 5: about ant storyline because it gave him more big Boy.
Speaker 1: I didn't care. I didn't care about Aunt at all.
Speaker 1: Ant was fucking annoying.
Speaker 5: I get that he didn't like doing the cleaning business,
Speaker 5: but I didn't really get a lot of character development
Speaker 5: from Ant. So I just didn't care. And did he
Speaker 5: learn his lesson not. I mean, that's another issue I
Speaker 5: have with the movie. If we're talking about the overall
Speaker 5: arc of Ant. The ending was all the ending was
Speaker 5: trash garbage. They rushed the ending so bad. You shot
Speaker 5: him and the next thing you know, everything is fine.
Speaker 5: It's like what and then you just wrap everything up
Speaker 5: with well, two years later.
Speaker 1: I'm drawing comics and so and so went to school,
Speaker 1: Like what come on? Man?
Speaker 2: It did seem like some lost footage is somewhere like, yeah.
Speaker 1: The Big Boy go to jail because he's Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was like, bro, we don't know what happened to him.
Speaker 4: Oh no, me.
Speaker 1: Shooting tapping a long time in the hood and they
Speaker 1: don't go to jail.
Speaker 6: I know, I know, I was just saying, but the
Speaker 6: movie never gave us anything through it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was able to suspend that because, like I said,
Speaker 4: I'm familiar with that story of a kid seeing somebody
Speaker 4: else with something want to get into it and they
Speaker 4: end up dropping out.
Speaker 1: Of school and all that type of shit.
Speaker 4: I do agree that they probably could have spent more
Speaker 4: time on that, but yeah, they just didn't have that
Speaker 4: mon time.
Speaker 1: That's a whole nother storyline. They would have much into it.
Speaker 1: This could have been another ten minutes. Yeah, it is true.
Speaker 1: It's just weird that he shot him.
Speaker 7: He's in the hospital and they tried to be slick
Speaker 7: with it, trying to make it seem like it was
Speaker 7: It was like he was dying and then maybe it
Speaker 7: was Tia they got shot, so try to get a
Speaker 7: look cute with it with aing new new run up
Speaker 7: in there and ship like that.
Speaker 1: Like wow, that's not even your fucking like, it's not even.
Speaker 4: Why the homeboy called anyway, Yeah, like what what the fuck?
Speaker 4: Tia didn't get shot? I mean it was it was
Speaker 4: the brother that you don't even really fucking know't like that. It'
Speaker 4: supposed to be misdirection, but like, you know, she was
Speaker 4: trying to be there in the time of grief, but
Speaker 4: his brother got shot.
Speaker 5: But I don't think we were questioning what not we
Speaker 5: I don't think I was questioning while she was there.
Speaker 1: I was more so like why did buddy call her?
Speaker 1: To begin with? Why didn'ty or did he did? He
Speaker 1: his friend called her because they ain't even made up.
Speaker 3: He was still mad at it. He was still mad
Speaker 3: at you.
Speaker 1: So what are we doing with this?
Speaker 7: Like I'm still saying to not say anything about what
Speaker 7: happened with Big boy.
Speaker 1: That's weird.
Speaker 6: It's just yeah, it felt weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at the very least, I feel like they could
Speaker 2: show showed him conducting business as usual, right, At the
Speaker 2: very least, they could have did that.
Speaker 1: They just acted like nothing happened.
Speaker 3: Because his cousin, Right, he beat up his cousin.
Speaker 4: Tell you my mama, Tell my mama. The one thing, right,
Speaker 4: the one thing t I pushing away the gun in
Speaker 4: his face. What happened now what he's saying when he's
Speaker 4: fighting them? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, pushed him
Speaker 4: at the gun.
Speaker 1: And he pushed away the gun him. Oh that was ridiculous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then they fought, and then nobody.
Speaker 4: Nobody shot and watching a t R right, and then
Speaker 4: like who was trying to make it seem like TI
Speaker 4: I was tough?
Speaker 3: You know who that's about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was kind of weird. You little skinny get
Speaker 5: out of here.
Speaker 3: Like that's cool about what, don't get it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like he tapped
Speaker 4: into the bro just a character like but that's about me, Pottner.
Speaker 7: Or that he left that lifestyle. But we never really
Speaker 7: got any sort of story about that he was part
Speaker 7: of that from his uncle or anybody.
Speaker 2: See, that would have been you asked me about grit.
Speaker 2: That would have been good too. I don't know if
Speaker 2: we had the time to do that, but they had
Speaker 2: showed us a little backstory on t I maybe trying
Speaker 2: that and not and then that's why he's so adamant
Speaker 2: about his little brother not doing it like that.
Speaker 1: That would have been really good. I think they were.
Speaker 4: We were supposed to assume that maybe he was streeting
Speaker 4: and he had. He was trying to look up for
Speaker 4: his brother, like you know, wanting them want his brother
Speaker 4: to follow in that past.
Speaker 1: So he left it alone or something.
Speaker 3: I never got straight from him other than that moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that was the only moment.
Speaker 4: Well, he was in a car with big boy Yatt
Speaker 4: all that ship. I think that's what we talking about.
Speaker 4: That's two different ones. That like, it was one when
Speaker 4: he when he when he pulled when he was dropping
Speaker 4: them off at the house.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. When he dropped a beat
Speaker 2: on the window. He was like, you better ask about me, partner,
Speaker 2: you know who I am.
Speaker 5: That was the first time somebody else what you're reaching for?
Speaker 5: You know what what you're reading, buddy. You know high
Speaker 5: school kids. Man get shut out a little bit. Bro.
Speaker 1: He was so just suspended. Bro.
Speaker 6: And they about the same height.
Speaker 1: It's hilarious.
Speaker 3: And t I did the little story for them work.
Speaker 3: I like the BlackBerry.
Speaker 2: My last scene, Uh, let me know came on let
Speaker 2: me know in the car.
Speaker 1: Yeah did you like that?
Speaker 3: I did?
Speaker 1: I guess my thought turned out that's my out. That
Speaker 1: was real bad like I thought. They kneeled.
Speaker 4: It was better because it was less acting in that one,
Speaker 4: less talking in that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one, that one was better. Yeah. Did you
Speaker 1: like a kid? No? That was it was bad man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he liked it like that.
Speaker 3: Now he's talking about acting.
Speaker 5: Oh no, I meant like, no, she's like she's bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the.
Speaker 7: Traditional since that's not really her that she would be
Speaker 7: over over doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a line about Donald Trump. Did you
Speaker 2: see the line about that? Was so weird and I
Speaker 2: never noticed that. I don't know what it means either.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I couldn't tell either. Rounded like three times,
Speaker 1: even couple.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to remember what he said. He was like,
Speaker 5: I ain't dying Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, yeah, he was like so she was
Speaker 2: like I don't know you, because she did want him
Speaker 2: to drop him off and she was like I don't
Speaker 2: know you.
Speaker 3: And he was like, I ain't know Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get it, especially around that time. Six Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was probably still when Donald Trump was
Speaker 1: kind of cool with.
Speaker 5: Rappers, right, yeah, yeah, but but I don't get the
Speaker 5: context follow.
Speaker 3: Her home or something like that. Maybe they knew something
Speaker 3: we didn't that.
Speaker 1: Way yeah right, maybe way back then then they did.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we got the big brother storyline, we got
Speaker 2: the little brother.
Speaker 1: Really ain't I was missing the scene. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I saw it online. This is why I said I'll
Speaker 1: get rid of streaming.
Speaker 4: But yeah, when he snatched the change, y'all have that scene.
Speaker 1: I didn't have that scene.
Speaker 5: I just want you to say, you forgive me my necklace,
Speaker 5: give me my.
Speaker 1: Neck mad Man. Yeah whatever I watched it on. I didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't have that like to beers. I don't know
Speaker 1: why they would cut it out either. It wasn't too
Speaker 1: that was.
Speaker 5: It wasn't was it was on something free for sure
Speaker 5: because I didn't pay for it.
Speaker 1: Really absolutely not streaming net work.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was on something unless I watched it Goku,
Speaker 5: but I don't think I did.
Speaker 1: And I looked high and low for a film. I
Speaker 1: didn't watch it on Goku. I looked for free. It
Speaker 1: wouldn't know.
Speaker 3: I went the Amazon, I went to HBO, I went
Speaker 3: to Paramount, I went to.
Speaker 1: Everyone to Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was almost texted. John said, can we just wait?
Speaker 5: I found it on something else. I think it might
Speaker 5: have been on Pluto.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, No Pluto ain't free though, yeah free gotcha
Speaker 2: flo p h I it wasn't on Yeah, all right?
Speaker 2: So at l any other thoughts about this movie.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think what else happened?
Speaker 4: I know, get the wordline of the Brooklyn dude he
Speaker 4: couldn't keep a job or he didn't want to keep a.
Speaker 1: Job and became a man.
Speaker 3: Do they get some Cuddy last night scene?
Speaker 1: Still?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's an iconic scene. That what somebody didn't
Speaker 4: get no cutting? Yeah, that was always iconic to me.
Speaker 3: I like the comedic relief from the uncle. He did
Speaker 3: a really good yo.
Speaker 1: Yeah you didn't. I liked him.
Speaker 3: I thought he did a good job.
Speaker 1: From Forrest Gun that's church good church man. That was
Speaker 1: the most unbelievable in this whole movie.
Speaker 5: On that bike like that, he was man, Hell no,
Speaker 5: that motherucker with a tip I don't given with. Nobody said.
Speaker 5: I was like, she's nice, she's nice. Yeah, she was
Speaker 5: probably very nice. But they turned that corner a little
Speaker 5: too easy for me to believe. The tweens the mama,
Speaker 5: the mama was funny.
Speaker 1: Oh she cuts him. Yeah, that was still.
Speaker 6: You weren't crying when you stolen or something like that.
Speaker 5: That was kind of that was realistic ship exactly, the
Speaker 5: good love a party, bring your ass.
Speaker 4: Down here had to get out the back of the
Speaker 4: uh the station doors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that we're talking about it to an ended,
Speaker 2: I feel like it would have been a better payoff
Speaker 2: had something happened with the skating. I ain't like them
Speaker 2: the flashes at the end and then explaining it.
Speaker 1: They could have just ended the.
Speaker 6: Way and They didn't say, yeah, we didn't even win
Speaker 6: the skate competition.
Speaker 1: They didn't even get why do you even include a competition?
Speaker 1: Then just be like, hey, we go down here every
Speaker 1: once in a while we go skate skating.
Speaker 5: Because even the whole like the part where they all
Speaker 5: fell and fucking t I jumped over.
Speaker 1: Him and slow there was like come over there. They
Speaker 1: really was selling to y'all.
Speaker 5: BRO was like, that's why I thought t I wrote it,
Speaker 5: because he was like the most flawless character in the
Speaker 5: whole movie.
Speaker 6: This food jumped over them foods.
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell? Yeah, this was weird.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's unbelievable. Yeah, I'm good on this one, y'all.
Speaker 1: Not a classic to you, wouldn't.
Speaker 5: I mean, I can't take away it being a classic
Speaker 5: or not, but I would never watch this again.
Speaker 1: This is not Do you.
Speaker 3: Think it's better than Baby Boy?
Speaker 5: I think I'd rather watch Baby Boy because the baby
Speaker 5: was at least funnier.
Speaker 1: The dialogue in this was.
Speaker 6: Just too too bad, and baby Boy is more oaked.
Speaker 7: This does have some like pretty teen college sort of.
Speaker 5: Yeah thing to it, and I didn't like. I just
Speaker 5: didn't like the humor in this it was just like,
Speaker 5: this is stupid. The star six nine of them. Girl,
Speaker 5: I ain't know how, but that's not funny.
Speaker 3: Did it get the essence of Atlanta? Like, do you
Speaker 3: think it did?
Speaker 1: Give?
Speaker 6: Yes, Big Yip was in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it was definitely Atlanta, man. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And the funny the funny thing is like they're right
Speaker 5: down the roof of my house.
Speaker 2: You got a lot of familiar places. I like the
Speaker 2: cinematography of it was good. I think that like catching
Speaker 2: them old Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was really surprised that it was this decent.
Speaker 4: Like when when I heard about it, I was like
Speaker 4: I was, I was surprised, but I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: what's actually.
Speaker 1: Pretty all right?
Speaker 5: But this kind of hurts the whole that's Atlanta ship
Speaker 5: because they technically weren't really in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Atlanta, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Like they were in Mechanicsville, they were in Panthersville, they
Speaker 5: were in East Point.
Speaker 1: That's not all that was Atlanta. I always thought it
Speaker 1: was Atlanta until the song. No.
Speaker 4: I thought everything in the middle of Inside twenty five
Speaker 4: was Atlanta?
Speaker 1: Is that what she said? That's what she said?
Speaker 4: I thought, like the Douglasville and Clayton Counties and all
Speaker 4: that isn't like clay Cold all that that's not Alanta.
Speaker 3: She's only referring to like Metro.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. That's why I was like, why.
Speaker 5: Is but that's Metro mechanics Ville and all that. You know,
Speaker 5: hear what I'm saying. Maybe she's not considering that ship Atlanta.
Speaker 5: I was saying from the song, it seemed like she
Speaker 5: wasn't considering any of that ship Atlanta.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 4: I feel like everything that she was saying in that
Speaker 4: song was like Stone Mountain, I have to go back,
Speaker 4: And you're probably right, you know what I'm saying. Douglasville,
Speaker 4: all that shit, that's not Atlanta, but a lot of
Speaker 4: people claim it as Atlanta, Like Mary, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 5: Not Yeah, Mayor is definitely. East Point is Atlanta. East
Speaker 5: Point is absolutely that is. Decatur's not not Atlanta. It's
Speaker 5: not West End is Atlanta. Yeah, west definitely Western Pantherville Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Yeah that mechanic. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Forest parklan for Forest Park. See, Forest Park is right
Speaker 5: next to East Point, but.
Speaker 1: It's just too far to Okay, all right, it's our
Speaker 1: college park. No, that's College Parklane. That's said.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 7: Absolute College Park is Atlanta, Yeah they claim I think
Speaker 7: they do interesting.
Speaker 1: I bet you Forrest rep so. I think they're claiming yeah, interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I let us know what you'll think Atlanta is. This
Speaker 2: has been our review for the anniversary twenty years and
Speaker 2: at L has been out man. Y'all go check out
Speaker 2: the movie and listen to the review. We thank you,
Speaker 2: appreciate it. We out peace, Pea not alone.