1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: And we are back. It is another edition of Colt's 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: Corner with myself, Kevin Bowen and Eddie Garrison across the way. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: One week from today, Eddie, that would be Tuesday Live 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: at the Combine, so we will be down there for 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: the umpteenth year in row. It seems like and certainly 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: always a favorite week of mine. I know there are 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: some people that are a little negative about it from 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: a media standpoint, but man, it just seems like the 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: Colts have had one of the quieter off seasons of 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: any team, and it just it always spurs action, Like 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: I feel like, oh, all of a sudden, here we are, 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: franchise tag window, boom, Combine. Oh, free agencies three weeks away, okay, 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: And then like once you get through those like two 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: weeks of free agency, then it's like, oh wait, off 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: season programs about to start. Oh wow, it's the draft, 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, here we go, weather's improving, 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: let's go. So I always enjoyed the time of year, 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm looking forward to next week. How are you, sir? 19 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: I'm well, how was your anniversary yesterday? In Valentine's Day? 20 00:00:59,200 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: Last week? 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: No, thank you for that. I appreciate the text as well. Yeah, 22 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: we had a very nice Valentine's Day annivers three. 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: Now, how many more of these do you think she 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: can do? Because I know she has to put up 25 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: with a lot. 26 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question. I'm just happy we've got 27 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: it through seven of them. Yeah, to say the least there. 28 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: So that sounded a little harsh from you, but very 29 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: deserved by you as well. So weather is breaking here. Indeed, 30 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: we do a little pinheads action on Saturday with the kids, 31 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: have you. 32 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: Really Yeah's action? 33 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a rock and time there. 34 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: It's a good spot. 35 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: Honestly, we are catered it up more than we did 36 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: bowling action there. So I mean, is there anything more 37 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: exhilarating than the claw machine? 38 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: No? Oh gosh, you Max bowed infatuated with the claw 39 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:43,639 Speaker 2: Rosie for sure? 40 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: Oh? 41 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: Is she like the The Little Aliens and Toy Story? 42 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? And then our niece Ellen was unbelievable claw Oh yeah, 43 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: I can picture that Toy Story episode or that Toy 44 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: Story segment. So yeah, we had a great time there. 45 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: And uh here we are kind of the final quiet, 46 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: quiet ish weekend here before things get started today's pod, 47 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: we'll focus on change Steichen as a head coach. Last 48 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: week we focused on Chris Ballard, the good, the bad, 49 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: the wins, the losses. However, you want to assess, you know, 50 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: Ballard in terms of his GM ten year and for 51 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: stiking your three as a head coach. So there's there's 52 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: always a lot on the Stikeen plate, and we'll evaluate 53 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: that and get to a few Twitter questions. Let's start 54 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: with just how the calendar goes Eddie. You know again 55 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: we're recording this on Tuesday morning, February seventeenth. The franchise 56 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: tag window is now open for two weeks. I will 57 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: continue to reiterate what I've done here over the last 58 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: month or so. I think Alec Pierce is more viable 59 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: than Daniel Jones. I can listen to debates on both, certainly, 60 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: but I do think Pierce it makes a little bit 61 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: more sense to tag him. And you know, one thing 62 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: to remind our audience about with Michael Pittman Junior a 63 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. You know, they tagged him and 64 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,839 Speaker 1: then they got the deal done before the new league year, 65 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: which you don't have to do. You've got I should 66 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: double check this, but I believe you have until like 67 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: July to try for the extension if that's a route 68 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: that you want to go down. So obviously I'll be 69 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: curious if that is the plan of attack with Pierce. A. 70 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: Do you tag them? B, do you try to get 71 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: it done for the new league year, or CEE do 72 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: you wait? And if I'm not mistaken, I forget who 73 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: some of the whiteouts were, but that Pittman contract aged 74 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: pretty well within that offseason. You know, there are a 75 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: lot of white outs that I think ended up signing 76 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: either new contracts or extensions. That whatever three for seventy 77 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: whatever Pittman got ended up looking decent. Now, of course, 78 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: right now you're sitting with a twenty nine million dollar 79 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: caphit for this season, and we'll see exactly how that 80 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: plays out. But I think that's kind of the biggest 81 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: news item to watch, is what will the next two 82 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: weeks play out? Again, they used pretty much the entire 83 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: window before they officially tagged Pittman, so I zoom will 84 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: wait if they're going to do anything with that, and 85 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: that'll be a news item to keep an eye on. 86 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: Obviously, Kevin. The sooner a tag is applied usually means 87 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: the further off the two sides are now. I feel 88 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 2: like if you use the tag as close as you 89 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: possibly can to the end of the window, that typically 90 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: means there's been some good communication back and forth between player, 91 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 2: his agent and the franchise on negotiating that contract extension. 92 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I yes, I think that's a very good point 93 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: to bring up. You know, we had I don't think 94 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: many are in this category, but we still have someone 95 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: bring up today. Hey, you know, if it's a Pittman 96 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: or Pierce debate, you know, I can't believe people are, 97 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, thinking that replacing Pittman's seventy eighty catches are 98 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: going to be easy. I don't want it to seem 99 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: like a slap in the face with Pittman at all. 100 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: But again, what's the harder trait to find? The harder 101 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: trait to find is Pierce's trait than it is Pittman's. 102 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: That's right. So yeah, should be on the news item list, 103 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 1: you know, next week of the combine obviously, Chivarius Ward, 104 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, what is his status for next season. We'll 105 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: see about any lingering coaching decisions, if there's anything more 106 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: on the Anthony Richardson senior front. So those are some 107 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: of the news items. You know, I did think nationally Eddie. 108 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: You saw what the Miami Dolphins did yesterday, partying ways 109 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: with obviously some marquee players and Tyreek Hill and Bradley 110 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: Chubb and who else James Daniels, I think the kid 111 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: from IU Westbrook Akida as well. But you know, that's 112 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: kind of what this time of the year is about, 113 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: particularly new gms and new coaching staffs. You know, how 114 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: much of that roster do they want to slice up? 115 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: And particularly the aging ones, particularly the expensive ones. You know, 116 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb went healthy, has been very productive the last 117 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: couple of seasons, sandwich around the ACL. You know, I 118 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: continue to like Adafo away, you know, with the Chargers, 119 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: and obviously the Trent Hendrickson franchise tag storyline will be 120 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: one to watch as well league wide over the next 121 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: two weeks. But you know, freatency really gets set two 122 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: weeks from today, you know, for right now, Like I 123 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: see all this, Hey, Alec Pierce can go to the Patriots, 124 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: Alec Piers can go here. It's like, well, if the 125 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: Colts want to, they just tag them and it's over. 126 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's largely over. So that's why I do 127 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: feel like you always kind of have to get through 128 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: the franchise tag window and then you can really start 129 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: to debate, you know, how things could look. 130 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 2: Was that the offseason where all mon Roth Saint Round 131 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: got four for one hundred and twenty A. J. Brown 132 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: got three for ninety six and Jefferson got his money. 133 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: That all sounds right, Yeah, that does. So you know 134 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: again you know when you give out these extensions, and 135 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: I would think Pierce will have a pretty competitive market 136 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: if indeed he does go there. So for those that 137 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: are trying to look at Alec Pierce family tree, his 138 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: brother Kayden did commit to Purdue to play basketball over 139 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: the weekend. He is a Princeton product, uh, and so 140 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: he will play his final year of college basketball at Purdue, which, 141 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: for those unfamiliar with Indiana geography or anything, produce about 142 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: an hour hour and a half up I sixty five 143 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: just northwest of Indianapolis. So I don't know if that 144 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: will have any impact what soelve won Alex Peiz's decision, 145 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: But nonetheless. 146 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Nico got three years seventy two point seven five, 147 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: Jayalen Waddell three for eighty four point seventy five and 148 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: DJ Moore got that four for one ten and I 149 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: you got four for one twenty that offseason. 150 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: So Nico only only two million more than Pittman over 151 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: three years. 152 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, jeez, well not even that twenty four point 153 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: twenty five. 154 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: I think said three for seventy two. Wasn't Pittman three 155 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: for seventy Yeah? Gosh, man, that's crazy. 156 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get into evaluating Shane Steichen starting with the wins. 157 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: We'll start with the Daniel Jones growth. Kevin. 158 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, this is a definite win. I mean, 159 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: you you have a player that had not reached this 160 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: level of play, uh in his whatever six seven seasons 161 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL, six seven seasons in the NFL. 162 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: And yet he you didn't do that? 163 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: Did you hear in Indianapolis? Was that good or bad? 164 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: That was bad? 165 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: Thank you? 166 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: At least it's not the QR crap that Jake Query's 167 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: trying to start. 168 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: Come on, Yeah, no, I'm glad you and I are 169 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: on the same page with that. 170 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 171 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: You know, obviously the Anthony Richardson project everyone to call 172 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: it hasn't worked out, but you know, whether it's minshew, 173 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to put too much into Flaco was 174 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: such a small sample size. But you know, whether you 175 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: want to look at Minshew or Jones, I mean, I 176 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: think both of them have reached a level of their 177 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: play that is some of the best, if not the best, 178 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: in their respective careers. And you know, Shane was bullish 179 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: hun Daniel Jones from day one, and you know, I 180 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: think eventually we we kind of got there of like, Okay, 181 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: this is actually going to happen. So you know that 182 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: presence of psyching, you know, And I'm not saying like 183 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: all all of a sudden fundamentally you've changed his throwing 184 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: this or that. No, maybe it's just a level of confidence. 185 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: Maybe it's really catering to plays and concepts that he 186 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: does particularly well. You know, clearly in his time in 187 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: the NFC East, Shane Styken observes some things that he 188 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: felt like could be possible with Daniel Jones. So I 189 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: think that's a definite win for Shane Steikin. 190 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: In the other win that you've got on one of 191 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: SO and five of the fan dot Com would be 192 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: the historic offensive stretch. And you said, in general, what 193 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: the Colt State offensively for the first two months of 194 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: this season is some of the best football we've seen 195 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: on that side of the ball in franchise history. From 196 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: a play calling standpoint, you remain high on Stiking. Is 197 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: he perfect? You say no, But this is a Colt 198 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: offense that has still produced a top ten scoring unit 199 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: despite having to start Philip Rivers and Riley Leonard for 200 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: nearly a quarter of the season. Styking gives up gives 201 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: the Colts a strong offensive mind. 202 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I continue to be pretty high on Shane Stike 203 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: in offensively. You know, I think again the numbers stating 204 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: back to twenty twenty three are impressive when you didn't 205 00:09:54,520 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: have maybe as much either at quarterback or round the quarterback. 206 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: I probably should be noted they changed a couple of 207 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: offensive line pieces too, and you know that has seemingly 208 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: gone pretty well. And you know, again, you finished top 209 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: ten in scoring, and you know you had Philip Rivers 210 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: and Riley Leonards start four games for you. So I 211 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: think that also stands out to me. So I think 212 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: just kind of summarize where the wins are. I think 213 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: offensively as a unit relatively consistent scoring, I would start there. 214 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: And then for the most part, there is one big 215 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: missic quarterback. But you know they have gotten some good 216 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: level of play at quarterback with guys that you know 217 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: we're definitely either cast offs or however you want to 218 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: label him, hadn't played nearly to that level throughout their 219 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: respective NFL careers, so specifically to last year ATI, it 220 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: was that historic offensive stretch. But I think if you 221 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: look at the fifty whatever fifty four games sample size 222 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: of stiching, you know, for the most part, I think 223 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: the offensive play has been pretty good. 224 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned the quarterback play. That's where one of 225 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 2: the three losses that you wrote on one to someone 226 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 2: fight THEEFAN dot com in this section or losses, I 227 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: should say and to be determined, would be the Anthony 228 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: Richardson project. It is trending towards the marriage coming up 229 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: in a divorce between Richardson and Indianapolis. This was a 230 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: misidentification pre draft and then a mishandling of the developmental project. 231 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: Stiking was more than on board with the selection of Richardson, 232 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: but clearly the cults underestimated the attention needed in the 233 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: full on commitment to seeing what is there with the 234 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: former number four overall pick. 235 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about Richardson specifically here on this podcast, 236 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: so I won't belabor the point too too much, but 237 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: it was you know, there are misses at every level, 238 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: whether that is the scouting level, whether that's the coaching level, 239 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: whether that's the individual player level, and you know, him 240 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: meeting the standards that you have for him. But I 241 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,599 Speaker 1: would say there was just a mis judgment in exactly 242 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: what the project would take and that undertaking. You know, 243 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: if you want to look at Jalen Hurts, Justin Herbert 244 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,239 Speaker 1: or Philip Rivers, they came from very different quarterback backgrounds. 245 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: Their college experiences were very different. Shane has had great 246 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: success with past quarterbacks, but I would argue none of 247 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: them sniffed the rawness nature of Richardson, and so I 248 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: think that was where you kind of just flat out 249 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: missed really of like, hey, you know, I mean how 250 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: many games had hurt starting college? You know, I mean 251 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: he played and then he played at Alabama and Oklahoma 252 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: and played in college football playoff, you know, played at 253 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: a very high level as well. So I think that's 254 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: where the miss was in Uh, Richardson's. 255 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 2: Judgment number two in terms of the losses and things 256 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: still to be determined. Beating the Texans in the Jaguars 257 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: I'll let you take this one, KB. 258 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the record stands for you know, two 259 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: and ten is just it's just awful, you know, especially 260 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: when you look at both of those franchises, and in 261 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: particularly with Jacksonville. You know, obviously they've made a coaching change. 262 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's not like this is whatever chief the 263 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: Chiefs of Mahomes or you know, Josh Allen and the 264 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: Bills there. So I think that is something that really 265 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: stands out to Miko Ryans, of course, hired in the 266 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: same coaching cycle as Shane. I think Shane Steiker might 267 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: have been the runner up to Demiico Ryans in Houston. 268 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: And you know it's a broken record. Divisional games mean more, 269 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: and the Colts have wilted oftentimes late in the season. 270 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: You know, when you think about the wins, Eddie, so 271 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: you are two and ten. The two wins are what 272 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: c J. Stroud's first ever divisional game. I believe c. J. 273 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: Stroud's second game overall was that win down there in 274 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 1: Houston and then you beat uh. I want to say, 275 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: is mac Jones maybe in Jacksonville in overtime in that 276 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: meaningless game two years ago in the final game of 277 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: the season, So uh, you know that I think is 278 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: something too that also it's just frustrating, uh and it's wise. 279 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: Division are out now is extended for an eleven straight year. 280 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: And the final thing when you evaluate Shane Stikeen is 281 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 2: finding other ways to get it done. Shane Steiken is 282 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 2: an accomplished offensive mine and you firmly able to leave that. 283 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: But as a head coach, his teams are twenty five 284 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: and twenty six and a record of seven and twenty 285 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: two against teams above five hundred. The Colts have to 286 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: find ways to win games without a binner day. Offensively, 287 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: they are three and seventeen. Look at that three one 288 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: seven Kevin. In games when they score twenty points are 289 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: fewer to put out in a perspective, the Texans are 290 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: eight and fourteen in such games. As they now have 291 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: three playoff wins in the last three years. The Colts 292 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: have to find ways to win games in different ugli 293 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: or fashion. A score of twenty to seventeen or seventeen 294 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: to thirteen or nineteen sixteen might pop up a time 295 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: or two in a season. It might be necessary when 296 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: you are down a starting quarterback. That's reality and handling adversity. 297 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: The Colts must do it better. 298 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that last part, I know it maybe doesn't have 299 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: as much black and white. I tried to put a 300 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: couple of numbers in there to back it up, but 301 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: in general, the seven and twenty two against teams better 302 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: than five hundred, that obviously is a frustrating, you know, 303 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: element to it. But I would say more than that, 304 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: it's just again finding ways to win Differently, a seventeen 305 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: week NFL season is a bleeping grind. It's not going 306 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: to be historic offense throughout. That's just not the reality 307 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: of the league. Attrition has a lot to do with 308 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: it sometimes, just frankly, how your schedules divvied up. I 309 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: think this past year was an example of an easier 310 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: start and a more difficult finish. And so as teams 311 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: whatever start to scout you and take away things that 312 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: you're doing well, can you find other ways to win? 313 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor's not running at a historic level like he 314 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: was to the first two months of the season. Are 315 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: you able to win with one hand tied behind your back? 316 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: A little bit left handed? And I don't think the 317 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: Colts have been very good at that at all. Really 318 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: under stike In and Okay, why is just some of 319 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: a you have such an offensive minded head coach that 320 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: maybe defensively you aren't able to win these sorts of games. 321 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: And I don't you know, there's been times Seattle game 322 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: comes to mind where your defense has held them to 323 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: a point total that you feel like it's enough, but 324 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: you still aren't able to get it done. You know, 325 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: so many like so many people have pointed back to 326 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: that Seattle Colts game from back in December, and it's 327 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: like that is the outlier in Seattle season or one 328 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: of the outliers. The question is when you are faced 329 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: with some of those, we're off our game. It's a 330 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: b performance. Again, the left hand, the right hand is 331 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: tied behind our back. Can you still find a way 332 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: to get a win? If Seattle doesn't win that game, 333 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: they don't have the number one overall seed, and who 334 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: knows how it plays out. Finding ways to still scratch, 335 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: claw and fight and get a win when it's ugly 336 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: is vital. It's a key ingredient to success. And you know, 337 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: this to me is something we talked about in the 338 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: Ballard Pod last week. Eddie. You know this team has 339 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: wilted down the stretch. You know, in the Ballard era, 340 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: this five years straight of missing the playoffs, we've gone 341 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: over how the December and januarys have been so disappointing 342 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: for this team. I think a lot of these sorts 343 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: of games can pop up late in years. You know, 344 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: you go back to the Houston game and what was 345 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: that right after Thanksgiving this season? Not a very high 346 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: scoring game, but again found a way to win. Obviously, 347 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: Houston's defense well documented this season and be able to 348 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: get that done. And like eight and fourteen, it's obviously 349 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: not a great record for the Texans, but when you 350 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: put it up next to the Colts record of three 351 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: and seventeen in the same timeframe, that is why you know, 352 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: Houston has whatever you know, been to three straight playoffs 353 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: and won a playoff game in each of these three years. 354 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: All of those things I think are reasons why as 355 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: a head coach, to Miko Rans has been able to 356 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: other ways. Even if Nico Collins is missing, even if CJ. 357 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: Stroud is out, Oh Davis Mills is starting for three games, 358 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: Oh wow, how about if we win those three games? 359 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: You know, that is not something that the Colts have 360 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: been able to do. 361 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: What can Shane do differently to kind of prevent those 362 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: collapses at the end of the season. As the head coach. 363 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there is an element of a some 364 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: of it is roster I think a little bit of 365 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: you have to create more depth, But I think some 366 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: of it is embracing a little bit of that uglier nature. 367 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: To me, I think Shane's focus is so offensive centric 368 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: that you at times can lose sight of, hey, this 369 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: is more of a twelve round boxing match, and how 370 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: are we going to be able to find a way 371 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: to get it done? And you know, as the head coach, 372 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: you are also the overseer of that defensive unit. And 373 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: that's where I keep on coming back to of whether 374 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: it's keeping Gus Bradley for another year, whether it's not 375 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: demanding more defensive personnel changes. You know, those things have 376 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: clearly hurt this team. It's been more defense than I 377 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: think it is offense. You know. I know Shane has 378 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: tried to do some things where it's like, hey, you know, 379 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: do we implement more situational football within practice settings? Boom, 380 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you stop practice and you create 381 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: a two minute drill. You know, those sorts of things. 382 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: I go back to the Rams Bears playoff game, Eddie, 383 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: when Chicago's all those heroics late to force overtime. Yeah, 384 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: it was just kind of a shock, right, and Soldier 385 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: feelers rocking, And you know NFL film showed Sean McVay 386 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: huddling that team together, and you know that is again, 387 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: an offensive minded head coach very easily could sit there 388 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: and say, hey, I gotta worry about the coin flip 389 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: and whatever this call sheet's going to look like on 390 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: an opening drive. But he had the wherewithal or the 391 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: pulse of the team in that moment to say, I 392 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: need to call everybody together, we need to regroup as 393 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: a fifty three man roster, not just my offensive unit. 394 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: And you know it obviously led to them getting it 395 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: done in overtime. I think some of that stuff is 396 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: just a little bit more of an understanding of the 397 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: entire team each unit goes into it. I'm not just 398 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: a play caller and the head coach and all continue 399 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: to say it is difficult, I think, to handle all 400 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: of these duties, but to be able to have the 401 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: understanding of again the pulse of everybody. And I thought McVeigh, 402 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: for example, had that beautifully in that moment to understand. Boy, 403 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: we just got literally kicked in the you know what, Yeah, 404 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: I mean in the stunning. This game is going to overtime. 405 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: How are we going to react? Let's make sure that 406 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: our psyche is there. 407 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: Matt Mowing and ESPN just released this this morning, Kevin 408 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: On the best fit for the top fifty free agents 409 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty six NFL Free agency. According to 410 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: their rankings, Trey Hendrickson's number one of his best fits 411 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: with the Indianapolis Colts. They've got Daniel Jones' best team 412 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: fit with the Colts, puers best team fits shockingly with 413 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans, and Branden Smith with the Houston Texans. 414 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess a couple things. First off, on the 415 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: Hendrickson front, we should mention reports Mary and Hobby the 416 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: new defensive line coach. He comes over from time in 417 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: Cincinnati with lou Ana Rumo. So Ana Rumo continues to 418 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: tap into his own family tree, whether it's with personnel 419 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: or with position coaches. And I think Hobby was in 420 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: the college ranks. I want to say maybe Arkansas was 421 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: where he was looking to be coaching last year before 422 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: Charlie Parcher or this year before Charlie Partrid left to 423 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: go to Notre Dame, so Hendrickson of course would know 424 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: Mary and Hobby. Well, I don't know if I'm one 425 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: hundred percent sold on the Hendrickson thing. Again, I know 426 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people. When you're talking about free agents, 427 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: everybody else flaws everybody they're on the open market for 428 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: a reason. You know him or Bradley Chubb. You're not 429 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: really getting younger with that, you know. Worry about probably 430 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: the health of Hendrickson a little bit more there. And 431 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: then what do you want out of edge? You know, 432 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: do you want to try to swing for the homer 433 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: or do you want to try to get a couple 434 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: of singles or a single in a double. You know, 435 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: I've said about this offseason you need to go out 436 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: and find a starter opposite lot too, and a starting linebacker, 437 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: and then I think you got to get one out 438 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: one more. So that's where I kind of look at 439 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: it and say, all right, spend money for a start 440 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: and freight and see come back in Day two of 441 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: the draft. Round two or three needs to be a 442 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: defensive end as well. You know, I feel like I 443 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: sound like a little league coach, but you know, just 444 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: because little whatever little Mark has struck out every time 445 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: up to bat doesn't mean you tell him to keep 446 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: leaving the bat on his shoulders. No, no, no, no, no, 447 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: you get the bat off your shoulders. You've got to 448 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: keep swinging. Yeah, And I've got people that are griping 449 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: me all the time of like you're really thinking the 450 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: coult should draft another edge rusher. Ballard has swung and 451 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: miss all the time. Well, he's the man calling the shots. 452 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: Unless you got news for me, right, you have to 453 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 1: continue to swing. That position means that much to your 454 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: football team there, So you know, Braidon Smith, we played 455 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: to Anthony Castanzo. Audio Jack Doyle Do is a great 456 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: podcast Over with the Colts with Matt Taylor during the season, 457 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: and then he's had a couple interviews after the season 458 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: with players. He had Castanzo on and ac who's just 459 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: an offensive line technician, and he's very, very complimentary with 460 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: Braidon Smith and just his level. But again, you can't 461 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: pay everybody, right, and you've passed the torch really well 462 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: at center with Bordolini from Ryan Kelly, at right guard 463 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: with Mack Gonzalbez from Will Fries And now can you 464 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: do it with Jalen Travis and Braiden Smith. That would 465 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: be the question I have. You know, Braiden has been 466 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: decently healthy over the last two years. Obviously, two years 467 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: ago he had the OCD. This past year, I'm pretty 468 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: sure he was really healthy until the concussion late in 469 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: the season. Now that ended his year. Yeah, but you 470 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: know he has had a little bit of a better 471 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: health record the last two years physically. That is especially 472 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: what we're body. I think Nick Cross is the hardest 473 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: free agent. 474 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 475 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: I will continue to bang that home here over the 476 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: next few weeks because he is an ascending young player, 477 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: which is what you thought when you drafted. He's one 478 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: of the few recent defensive draft picks this team has selected, 479 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: and he's played well. You want to bring him back. 480 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: But having said that, can you pay two safeties major money? 481 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: Are you able to? I guess just make that work 482 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: is probably the easiest way to put it. But then 483 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: there's an other bird on the shoulder that says, Kevin 484 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: name the backup safeties for the cult right now? 485 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 2: Well, it's the beauty of the draft and free agency, Kevin. 486 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: They can easily replace it that way. 487 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, And again easier replace I mean not everybody's Craig Woodson, 488 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: who's what a fourth round pick of the Patriots and 489 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: comes in and plays every defensive snap or the most 490 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: defensive snaps for you. Like, I get that safety is 491 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: a position where you have found I think league wide 492 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: you can find some stop gaps. 493 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 2: But is that the most fungible defensive position? 494 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I that a linebacker probably? 495 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, probably linebacker. 496 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: You're right, so cross is difficult, you know, if you 497 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: trying to get younger on defense, isn't he pretty young? 498 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll see how it all right. 499 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 2: Final thing here before we get to Twitter. Question Daniel 500 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: Jeremiah of NFL Network, who does a really good job 501 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: with Moved the Sticks podcast and his coverage of the combine, 502 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: you know, with rich Isisen on the TV side, just 503 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 2: released his second mock draft literally thirty minutes ago. This 504 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 2: was about ten o'clock. He's got two Notre Dame players 505 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: in the first round. Pretty obvious who number one of 506 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: them is. So he's got Jeremiah Love going ninth to 507 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: Kansas City, And boy, can you imagine if the Chiefs 508 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 2: draft Jeremiah Love. 509 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: I have seen that, I have seen that. 510 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: He still ask Fernanda Mendoza going number one, and the 511 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: other Notre name player that shocked me a little bit, Kevin, 512 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: who do you think it is? 513 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: Well, I know he was high. I believe on Billy 514 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: Strout at one point offensive guard. But I'm gonna guess 515 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: he's a big, measurable guy. I'm gonna guess he's got 516 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: Malachi Fields in there. 517 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 2: He does, He's got him twenty six to Buffalo. 518 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: Now I get Alec Pierce vibes from Fields. Just the 519 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: ability to kind of moss some plays. I mean, if 520 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: you want to see some wild catches, just throw in 521 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh highlight reel of him. Honestly, he's a bigger 522 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, I've said this to people before. I felt 523 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: better about Notre Dame entering the playoffs this year than 524 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: I did last year. Now, obviously they didn't make it, 525 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: but for that week period that I thought they were in, 526 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: I thought they were more potent to get on a run. 527 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: They didn't have a Fields on the national runner up team. 528 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: And Fields was a one year chansfer from Virginia, and 529 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: I know he had a really good Senior Bowl And 530 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: I think I did a mock draft look on our website. 531 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: Eddie I think there was somebody that had him fall 532 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: into forty seven to the Colts. Huh actually there in 533 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: round two, So that's interesting. Jeremiah usually is a very 534 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: outside of the box thinker with some of the stuff, 535 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: so boy, that would be uh. 536 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with his ties Formil with the Charger. He 537 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: still works for the Chargers right in terms of I 538 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: think he's there analyst for radio or something, preseason TV 539 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: do something like that, but radio. Yeah, he worked in 540 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: their front office at one point, socha. I know he's 541 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: got connections to you know, Scouts, GMS, and I like 542 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: to look at his stuff over some other people. Dan 543 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 2: Brugler with the Athletics also really good to Did he have. 544 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: Dylan Theneman and all? Speaking of local guys, Uh, he 545 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: did as a safety. He had him in round one? 546 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had him. Let me find that again. I 547 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 2: think it was top half of the draft. 548 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: Wow. Really interesting. 549 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: Okay, uh yeah eighteen so right in that middle to Minnesota. 550 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: Perdue player for our local audience out there, that's a 551 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: Westfield guy, so yeah, that is uh wow. 552 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 2: Calls him an excellent replacement for Harrison Smith. There you go, 553 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 2: you're ready for sort of questions. 554 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: Let's do it. 555 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: We've got three of them. Starting with Joel, it seemed 556 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 2: like starting with the Colt Steelers game in the run 557 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: game was not the same. JT could not get can 558 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: not even get forty seven yards on a second string 559 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 2: Texans defense, as the offensive line grossly overrated, as Jonathan 560 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: Taylor overrated, or is there something that I am not considering. 561 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: I have not seen such a taiale two halves of 562 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: a season running the football in all my years watching 563 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: the Colts. 564 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, Joel, it's a great question. I don't think it's 565 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: one We've probably discussed enough. I do think sustaining run 566 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: game success is difficult now. The offensive line, yeah, it 567 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: started to get a little banged up there late late 568 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: in the season, but it still stayed pretty healthy even 569 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: with some of the poor games. And you always go 570 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: back to this Eddie in twenty twenty one with Carson Wentz. 571 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: It's just. 572 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: Quarterback play late in the year. They still ran it 573 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: great with Taylor, great with him. So that's where I 574 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: do struggle a little bit with this. But man, the 575 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: yards per carry numbers is just wild. I just pulled 576 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: up Taylor's numbers from the Pittsburgh game that and on 577 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you're what seven to one going 578 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh that Joel references here, these are the yards 579 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: per carry the rest of the season three point two 580 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: seven point six. That would be Atlanta in Germany three 581 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: point six, four point zero, three point five, three point five, 582 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: two point nine, three point three, one point nine. I 583 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: mean every single game four less. 584 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: And he wasn't on the injury report once, not once. 585 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: I don't even missed a day of practice, even for Rest. 586 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: It's just and that's the one that like Taylor is 587 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: starting to get And I don't think he looked injured 588 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: or anything to me, but like he is starting to 589 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: reach that age of in certainly the carry number. People 590 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: can do this math more than I. Maybe I should 591 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: do it in the offseason Taylor reaching the carry number 592 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: of think back to our Hard Knocks episode, you know 593 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: with Joe Shane and what was it was a Frank 594 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: Gore Maybe it was Frank Gore or no, it was 595 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: Taylor's agent, right, it was Malki Kawa on the sideline 596 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: of that, I think it was him. Ia could be 597 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: totally off on this, but they were debating the Saquon 598 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: Barkley thing, and you know, when running backs reached that 599 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: number of carries career wise, Taylor is starting to get 600 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: in that range. So you know, DJ Giddens, of course 601 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: we saw him as a rookie, barely played. Special team's 602 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: roles went to Goodson, and I mean here Abdullah a 603 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: little bit more. I think that's what also hurt him here. 604 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, Joel, it's it's a great question, and I 605 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: think it's definitely an offseason exercise that the Colts have 606 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: got to look into. I know Ballard specifically mentioned it. 607 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: You know, we've got to be able to establish it 608 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: a little bit more. Not to act like Riley Leonard 609 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: played a lot, but you know, the worst game of 610 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: all those games was Week eighteen against Houston, and they 611 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: couldn't run in the first half or the second half 612 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: when they desperately trying to get Taylor the rushing record 613 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: or the single season league lead there. So, yeah, it's 614 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: it's a great question. 615 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: How many carries do you think he has between college 616 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: and the NFL? 617 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, college is what right about three hundred a year? 618 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 2: Do you want answer that or are you thinking out loud? 619 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm thinking out loud, but yeah, go ahead. 620 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 2: Yes, to answer your question. 621 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: So he had three years of Wisconsin a three hundred 622 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: a year, So that's twelve game seasons. I don't gosh, 623 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL, I'd have no idea. 624 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: What's he at between college, the NFL and the one 625 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: playoff game he's played in two thousand and forty eight. 626 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think like three thousands what a lot of 627 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: people look at. Boy, it's a big carry number, you know. 628 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: I've always felt he could be Derek Henry, like a 629 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: little bit of the outlier to the rule. Just he 630 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: just seems like he's wired that way physically. It just 631 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: he's always been. You know. They tell the stories of 632 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: Wisconsin that that team playing lands from their road trip 633 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: and he's heading straight for the ice bath, you know, 634 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: and some guys might say, I'm gonna head straight to 635 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: my DMS and then straight to the party, right. It's 636 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: just it's a little bit of a different way of 637 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: thinking there. So, yeah, it's not maybe the most front 638 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: burner topic, but clearly there was. I mean, think about 639 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: that correlation to wins and losses we just read off there, Yeah, 640 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: I mean, and again that's yards per carry. I always 641 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: think it's very misleading when the NFL people give you 642 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: like the rushing yard stats. When X player rushes for 643 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: more than one hundred yards his team wins. Well, how 644 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: much of that did he get? Thirty yards on the 645 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: final drive of the game when they're trying to ice 646 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: it true? Like, I think yards per carry is much 647 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: more of an indicative stat, but it's still like an 648 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: elementary enough number that we all can easily process it. So, boy, 649 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: that's a big number that you just read off there. 650 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. The second question on today's pod for Twitter Christians 651 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 2: comes from Tom, who would like to know who has 652 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 2: the final say in roster control for the Colts. Looking 653 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: at the roster of the last few seasons, I always 654 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: wonder who has final say on it. For example, Ruben 655 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 2: Lowry the third a waiver wire pick up from earlier 656 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: this season who was rostered the entire year but was 657 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: primarily in a healthy scratch during game days, signed by 658 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: the Ravens as an undrafted free agent in twenty twenty five. 659 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: Tom's question here is who decides to claim him off 660 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 2: waivers and to keep him rostered for an entire season 661 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: without playing him. Is that a Loui and Wimo decision 662 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 2: because of the scheme fit? Or is that a Chris 663 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 2: Ballard front office call, maybe viewing him as a Nit 664 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: Cross or Kenny Moore replacement. 665 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tom, it's a good it's a good question. I 666 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: think when you see guys like Lowry, for example, go 667 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: back to Jack Doyle, go back to Kenny Moore. When 668 00:33:54,800 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: you see rookies claimed within that cycle, within that first year, 669 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: whether it be at the cutdowns like Jack Doyle and 670 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: Kenny Moore the second or like Ruben Lowry the third, 671 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: when it's within the season, I tend to think that 672 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: falls back on the draft process. We like said player 673 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: during the draft, we couldn't get our hands on them 674 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: now here they are, and obviously you have some preseason 675 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 1: film for a lot of these guys. I think Lowry 676 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: maybe even started a game with Baltimore, to be honest 677 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: with you, So there's a little bit of NFL film. 678 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: But I think there still is a we were enamored 679 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: with them at some level during the draft, let's go 680 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: ahead and claim them now as they get deeper into 681 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: the NFL, then you have more history there. From a 682 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: pro scouting standpoint, you obviously have you know, coaches and 683 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: a Roumo being the perfect example of it. Joe Bachi 684 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: Xavier and Howard Jermaine Pratt, you know, his own history 685 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: plays into some of it. So, you know, I I 686 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: think there's a general mutual you're I mean, you have 687 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: to listen to other voices. The roster's too big, the 688 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: league's too big, College football is too big for you 689 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: to be the ultimate person. But that's why you hire 690 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: and fire and have a scouting staff and you know, 691 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: trust their opinions, and obviously you're trying to fit play 692 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: styles into your scheme. You know. Again, Ballard has really 693 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: kept a lot of his scouting personnel together since you know, 694 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 1: the Gregson Poleon days. When you think about it, whether 695 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: it's Todd Vasvari or Kevin Rodgers or John Shaw or 696 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: Matt Turpanin or Jamie Moore, I mean, so many of 697 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: those guys have been with this organization for a long 698 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 1: long time before Ballard really, which I don't know, I'd 699 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: have to take a deeper dive if that's always something 700 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: that you see. You know, A Dodds of course, has 701 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: been with him, you know here since day one, from 702 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: their Endie days here. 703 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, I think for. 704 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: The most part, like people realize that Kenny Moore the 705 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: second story at this point that one might not have 706 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: been as much draft. You know, that was the twenty 707 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 1: seventeen first year Ballad and Kevin Rodgers, you know, longtime 708 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: pro scout. I'm trying to think of. I think his 709 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: dad used to be the Notre Dame OC. You know, 710 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: he kind of said, hey, it's roster cut time. I 711 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: really like this kid from New England. Yeah he might 712 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: have be the tallest, but look at his wingspan and 713 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 1: makes up for his lack of height, et cetera, et cetera. 714 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: And at that point, you know, Ballard's first year, which 715 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: you look what Miami just did. I think your first 716 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 1: year you're super willing to part ways, you know, with them, 717 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: and you know, or I should say, make wholesale roster changes. 718 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 1: So you know, I think that is something that you 719 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: would look at and they obviously Ballad was I think 720 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 1: open minded to it. And you know what, you have 721 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: done that a few years in, maybe not as much 722 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: as they would then late. 723 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 2: As always, thank you to those who submit questions Joel 724 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 2: and now Jimmy, you can always DM Kevin or myself 725 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 2: with your questions to get on to the podcast. This 726 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 2: is from Jimmy round Out Today's Twitter Questions section. Hey, KB, 727 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: understand that there is a lot left to be desired 728 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 2: from Anthony Richardson, but from where I'm sitting, unless he 729 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 2: absolutely refused, I would bring him back at least as 730 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 2: the backup. There's been this tonal shift this year that 731 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 2: AR can't do anything right anymore. But if you look 732 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 2: at Daniel Jones before coming to Indianapolis, I think you 733 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 2: can definitely argue that Ar was a better quarterback. I'm 734 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 2: not sure that Shane can't get higher highs out of 735 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 2: Ar if he absolutely has to. I said that to 736 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 2: say the idea of getting rid of him for Riley 737 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 2: Leonard it seems a bit far fetched for me. Again, 738 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 2: I understand that he may not want to be here, 739 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 2: so there may be a driving factor. But if they 740 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 2: can make it work, I think it's absolutely necessary to 741 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 2: keep Anthony Richardson. Please forgive me for being blue here, 742 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 2: but it's a blank ridiculous that Colts think Dane Jones 743 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 2: is the starting caliber by week one next season. That's 744 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 2: an absolute joke. 745 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: Okay, a lot there. I guess start at the last 746 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 1: part because it's fresh in my head. Yeah, I understand 747 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people out there confused almost 748 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: by the Colts thinking Daniel Jones could be ready week one. 749 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: You know, again, we live in a Indianapolis bubble anywhere 750 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: Tyrese Haliburton will go from what torn A kielees to 751 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: play in a basketball game, That'll be sixteen months. That's 752 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: not right, I think, so fifteen months, yeah, and Daniel 753 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: Jones will go ten months. So you know that those 754 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: are obviously whatever five six months. That is a big 755 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 1: difference in timetables for two similarly aged individuals. You know, 756 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: I'd say quarterback and the point guard are the exact same, 757 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: but it was quarterback. You're asked to make sudden movements, 758 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: unpredictable movements, a whole lot there. And I'll continue to 759 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 1: say this until we get to September and maybe even beyond. 760 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: When is Daniel Jones cleared? But most importantly when is 761 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: he normal? Right? That? To me, I think is the huge, 762 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: huge question here for twenty twenty six as far as 763 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: Richardson is concerned. You know what Jimmy said something the 764 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: effect here of like if they can make it work, that, 765 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: to me, I think is the big one. Are you 766 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: in a financial puzzle right now? Or you can make 767 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: ten point eight million dollars work for your backup quarterback. 768 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: And again I'm calling him the backup. Let's just do 769 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: that for the hypothetical. Let's say he's the backup over 770 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: Yley Leonard. Are you in a position for ten point 771 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,439 Speaker 1: eight million dollars to be that? Again, he's making ten 772 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: times the amount of money Riley. 773 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 2: Leonard is. 774 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: If you are a win now football team, if you 775 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: have a heightened sense of urgency for this season, if 776 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: you are in year ten of a GM with that resume, 777 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 1: or even year four for Shane Stichen with that resume, 778 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 1: can you afford that it seems a bit luxury year. 779 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: There are some comments Jimmy makes here that I don't 780 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 1: think is that far fetched. But still that just seems 781 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: like a situation that is very difficult for the Colts 782 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: to be in. I have trouble finding a place for 783 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: net Cross. I have trouble finding the answers in the 784 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: front and seven that are necessary. Do I have room 785 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: for Anthony Richardson at ten point eight million? 786 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 2: So don't remember what Chris Ballard said that uh at 787 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 2: the end of season press conference when he was asked 788 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 2: about capspace, he said, yeah, we'll be fine. 789 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, he really downplayed it. 790 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be good there, So. 791 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: I guess we'll see on that. The thing about Richardson, 792 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: I don't think this is the most pressing thing because 793 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: I don't think you get much more than a high 794 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: end Day three draft pick. But you know, if you 795 00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: do bring him back and then you obviously don't pick 796 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: up the fifth year option on him, then you have 797 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: to be content letting him walk for nothing. And that's 798 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of the Pierce thing too, like if 799 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: you are you're not in a position right now to 800 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: let anybody walk for nothing. I mean that's what we 801 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: just saw the Pacers do with Ben Dick Matheren. So 802 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: you know, Miles Turner, Okay, that can be one thing. 803 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: But if you start to let that happen a little 804 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: bit more and the cults are really never I think letup. 805 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: You know, we we went over those a few pods 806 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: ago when we come with Bobby Ocaake. Yeah, as like 807 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,720 Speaker 1: the most quality player that ended up walking. Yeah, hooker, 808 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: if you want to go way back, so to me, 809 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 1: like that's the game with Pierce, you know when I see, 810 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: oh the Titans is a destination. Oh the Patriots is 811 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: a destination blah, blah blah. If the Colts want to, 812 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,839 Speaker 1: they can just slap the tag right there and then 813 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: figure it out. I mean, I don't want to say 814 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: he slapping the tag just cures all, but it certainly 815 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: helps you out big time. And who knows. So some people, 816 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: not many players, but to some that tag could be 817 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, decently attractive. If you don't think you're 818 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: getting twenty nine million outright annually. If you think you 819 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: can still prove yourself even more one year, guarantee you 820 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: twenty nine million and then you prove yourself and then 821 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 1: you cash in and free agency, that can be decent. 822 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: Now that's probably the minority of thinking of that, but 823 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: that's still I thought that's out there. 824 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 2: It's a tool, right, Kevin. 825 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: A tool. That's what Chris Bowerd says, Right, yeah, it's 826 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: a tool. He calls it a tool. Say the least there. 827 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 1: So thank you everybody for the questions. Continue to send 828 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,919 Speaker 1: those in next week. I think we got to wait 829 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: to see when Ballard and Stich and talk. 830 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 2: I want to say. 831 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: Tuesday or Wednesday. Maybe for them seems kind of worthless. 832 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: I think to do one before they talk. So I'm 833 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: gonna say We're gonna wait. I know here in the 834 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: off seasons, for last month or so, we've been pretty 835 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: much Monday or Tuesday with you. Let's hold off on that. 836 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: Let's wait till we see a schedule on exactly when 837 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: I would guess either Tuesday afternoon or Wednesday. 838 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 2: Yep. Just a reminder of the franchise tag window is 839 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 2: open open today, closes March third. The Combine is the 840 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 2: twenty third through the second. There's not testing all those days. 841 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 2: It's just when players start to report it and get 842 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 2: the medical stuff, interviews, this, that, and the other free 843 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 2: agency before that quote unquote legal tampouring window starts on 844 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 2: March ninth. The eleventh is when free agency begins at 845 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 2: four pm Eastern. And the NFL Draft is April twenty 846 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 2: third through the twenty fifth. Where are we this yere, Pittsburgh, 847 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 2: I believe so? 848 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, OK, so it's a pretty good draft town, right 849 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: or NFL town. 850 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 2: All six hundred thousand people will be there. 851 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, nice, sound like Jay Query about draft crowds 852 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 1: at the watching day one day, two, day three. All right, 853 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: he's got a garrison. I'm Kevin Bowen. We'll have Combine 854 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: coverage live from downtown. You're coming up next week. One 855 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: oh seven to five of the fan, thank you.