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Speaker 2: Jays did think about that seriously. When I was dropping

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Speaker 2: I always try to just find Mark or Kevin's car

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Speaker 2: and park straight next to theirs, And so I'm like,

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Speaker 2: if they're a little off, then I'll blame them.

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Speaker 1: See that, Mark, you were a guide for human beings

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Speaker 1: right there.

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Speaker 2: Shining light.

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Speaker 3: Follow my lead.

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Speaker 1: That's how that goes.

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Speaker 3: Uh, look for that bear's license plate and follow it.

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Speaker 3: You know what.

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Speaker 2: Glory a fan invitational golf follow its glory too fast?

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Speaker 1: Now, not too fall I like living here, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think you got plenty of times.

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Speaker 2: I'm just making sure a god, if you're listening.

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Speaker 1: A fan Invitational twenty twenty six. Golf out and coming

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Speaker 1: your way at the end of April, but get in

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Speaker 1: line now. Spots are starting to fill up. April thirtieth,

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Speaker 1: ten thirty in the morning, shotguns start. Legends Golf Club.

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Speaker 1: We've been out there a couple of times. Kevin is

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Speaker 1: a fantastic place to hang out for a day. Twenty

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Speaker 1: they do have twenty seven holes to choose from out there.

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Speaker 1: But it's tremendous place. We like that. Thursday, April thirtieth,

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Speaker 1: checking starts at nine the Legends and all the proceeds

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Speaker 1: benefit the Franciscan Health Foundation. After all, they're presenting this

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Speaker 1: wonderful invitational. You can hang out with all of us

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Speaker 1: and Jake and JMV and Mark is going to be

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Speaker 1: there as well with your Bears license plate in the

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Speaker 4: Just duck if I'm shooting the ball, who knows where

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Speaker 1: Do you play golf?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, not as often as Kevin. Definitely not

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Speaker 4: as beautifully as he does.

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Speaker 1: How much golf is there going to be with a

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Speaker 3: Gosh, I'd love Can you talk to Maddy about that?

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Speaker 1: I will. Maybe I'll put in an oh, maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll tell her there's a series of fan invitationals that

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Speaker 2: This this sounds like, you know, you got the just

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Speaker 2: got older brother night.

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Speaker 3: Here early on this cold Wednesday morn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought this is the little brother trying to

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Speaker 2: ask the older brother for how to lie correctly to

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Speaker 2: the parents and ain't gonna work. Man, he said, you

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Speaker 1: We don't want to lie, but we want to create

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Speaker 1: events for Kevin that he has to go to. That's

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Speaker 3: Jeff and I used to do that back in the day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we used to go play with We should do

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Speaker 1: that again this summer. We used to just we'd have

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Speaker 1: One just drop Nelly off and I got you met

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Speaker 1: some tremendous people doing that.

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Speaker 2: She'll be a lie that again.

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Speaker 3: It's about frightening, as Mark dykon teeing up the driver.

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Speaker 2: Well, frightening. I mean, as long as I have on

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Speaker 2: like my little haz Matt suit for you blow out,

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Speaker 2: I'll be all right.

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Speaker 1: I promise it's the fan More Show with James Boyd

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Speaker 1: coming to you. Got you probably have a haz mat

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Speaker 1: suit for just such occasions, don't you. Man.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what my god son, and we can

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Speaker 5: You know, I think you can continue to make the

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Speaker 5: But then you know, once Thursday gets here, once Friday

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I'm like this thing I could use to

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Speaker 5: I love Acron's breaking news here. They've got some veteran

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Speaker 5: So I like that aspect to it. And if they

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Speaker 3: Well, Alabama's got to do. They just got caught with

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Speaker 1: They revised that yesterday it was two pounds a week.

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Speaker 3: Two pounds okay, So I'm ready for four to twenty.

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Speaker 3: That's all that's happening. Seriously, that's probably not gonna end

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Speaker 1: So I've got a sixteen.

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Speaker 2: No, that's a big, big loss that you mentioned. We're

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Speaker 2: laughing about it. But the guy their second leading score,

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Speaker 1: To you can't explain away two pounds. I don't even

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Speaker 2: Buying in bulk.

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Speaker 1: I guess I don't know how last but.

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Speaker 2: Because who had like, why would they just check your place?

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Speaker 4: Here, not just the clovers that were out yesterday and

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Speaker 4: that were green, No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: What what do you have to tell us?

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Speaker 2: Market is saying, so, has everyone fill out their bracket?

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Speaker 1: I filled mine out after the show today.

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Speaker 3: I'm naked.

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Speaker 1: I always go as late as I got to wait.

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Speaker 1: You know, we do have though, as of yesterday, if

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's part of a larger platform there, but

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Speaker 1: We'll see how we do, and you can have bragging

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Speaker 3: Here. Your first March Madness memory.

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Speaker 1: Very first March Madness memory, probably again I'm I'm older

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Speaker 3: It's a damn good first memory.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it was. I was in high school

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Speaker 3: Bryce Drew.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a crazy shot, dude.

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Speaker 5: Every time I watched the play, I think of the

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: That is true.

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Speaker 3: It was called Taser, right, wasn't the play called? Yeah? Literally, Mark,

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Speaker 3: I'm probably a year right in that same time range.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you and I are pretty much the same age.

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Speaker 5: I'll never forget waking up one morning and asking my

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Speaker 5: ninety eight or ninety nine national title, Yukon upset Duke.

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Speaker 3: Ricky Moore's the name that keeps popping my head for Yukon.

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Speaker 5: I think I was Colletel a mean but I honestly

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Speaker 5: They thrattled wake Forest one year, throttled I should say

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Speaker 5: It might have been bad modas first year. As ironic

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Speaker 5: I honestly remember the Mike Miller floater where it should

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Speaker 1: Man, yeah, that'll do it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the five Elite eight when Illinois came

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Speaker 2: the memories and you Weber fandom. Yeah yeah, Bruce Webber.

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Speaker 1: So Thursday, that opening slate of games has a local

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Speaker 1: Ohio State starts things off at twelve fifteen. At twelve forty,

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Speaker 3: And Nebraska's never won an NCAA tournament game.

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Speaker 2: That blows my mind every time I hear that. It's

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Speaker 2: crazy like they're something like blue blood school, but they're

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Speaker 1: Louisville to watch on Thursday. If whatever you got to do,

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Speaker 1: someway you don't feel well until the next Monday, right.

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Speaker 5: I enjoyed our conversation yesterday with Grant Leonard, the Queen's

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Speaker 5: said he voted for Braden Smith for first Team All

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Speaker 5: American and Brad Smith's second Team All American announced yesterday there.

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Speaker 5: But you know, just listening to him and describe what

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Speaker 5: did he say? It was the number three billion hits

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Speaker 5: for their website, Yes, for their university over the last

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Speaker 5: week since they've made the tournament, like just that stuff.

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Speaker 3: I believe it's a two million dollar payout.

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Speaker 5: Over the next six years total four Howard and I

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Speaker 1: So that's what's happening. As far as the NCAA tournament

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Speaker 5: He ain't taken advantage of it. But with Zubats he

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Speaker 1: They will try again tonight at home against the Portland

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Blazers aren't really a great team either,

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll see. I did anybody see Dominic Caruso

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Speaker 1: He certainly gave the Pacers all they wanted last year

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Speaker 1: I believe he's one of those guys that irritates you

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Speaker 2: There you go. I actually think that the Pacers were

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Speaker 2: I can hear like the music playing, like like one

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited for that next year. Take that, Fokker.

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Speaker 5: Well done, Mark, But after yesterday, I'm a little nervous

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Speaker 5: when you say anything I had, I had to pace myself.

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Speaker 2: No, Well, Nora told him to watch his mouth. That

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Speaker 4: Nora taught me the words, are we.

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Speaker 5: Going the rest of the player draft today? Are we

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Speaker 2: Can we do two and one?

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Speaker 3: That's fine by me.

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Speaker 3: I tried to give Mark's brain a nice rest here.

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Speaker 3: If you know they're don't overwhelm him.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you want to make sure you just enough

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Speaker 1: And you got to remind us who's off the board

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Speaker 4: I've gotten Bobby Plumb penciled in for one Christian Lightner.

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Speaker 5: Once you heard Larry Bird right there from Jeff, you

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Speaker 2: I think I'm set here.

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Speaker 3: I think I've got an all star team. By the way,

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Speaker 1: It sounds about right. I couldn't say that there's one

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Speaker 2: You remember I was that Jeff is not in your

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Speaker 5: I should put it in there calendar thirteen first year

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Speaker 3: That's the question?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I do.

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Speaker 5: whatever you want to call him, and Grant Line Decker.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: You know, Michael was an assistant on those teams with

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Speaker 5: Brad Stevens, so they obviously have direct familiarity with them.

445
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Speaker 5: And it's one of those things where it's like, if

446
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Speaker 5: you think you're getting fired in the next year or two,

447
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Speaker 5: do you just go to the next job so you

448
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Speaker 5: know your leash is five years longer.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Just get Luke, Heir and Goady down there to be

451
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Speaker 2: the GM and everything will ripe.

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Speaker 3: Gosh, I love Aaron Kevin.

453
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Speaker 2: We have season tickets.

454
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Speaker 5: I'm saying, man got to bring back the greats naked

455
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Speaker 5: run around the Butler Bowl.

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Speaker 1: You know it's the clothes always come off when Kevin's

457
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Speaker 1: is excited about sports.

458
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Speaker 2: Hey, him and Mark.

459
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Speaker 5: I took my shirt off from Michael Shrewsbury and that

460
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Speaker 5: hasn't gone swimmingly well.

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up at a moment, we'll continue to

462
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Speaker 1: talk about what's on the horizon for the Purdue boiler Makers,

463
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Speaker 1: but also the Colts had some activity yesterday. Stephen Holder

464
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Speaker 1: stops bying his weekly Wednesday spot to tell us about

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Speaker 1: that next. It's ninety three to five and one seven five.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome into the Fan Morning Show. Another

467
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Speaker 1: loss for the Pacers last night. We'll get to that

468
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Speaker 1: in a little while here. Obviously we are all in

469
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Speaker 1: on college basketball. But as we say all the time, James,

470
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Speaker 1: the National Football League never goes to sleep.

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Speaker 2: No, No, it only goes to sleep when Stephen Holder

472
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Speaker 2: is overseas and can't get back in time for the combine.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if it goes to sleep then,

474
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Speaker 1: I don't even know if that happened. Stephen Holder joins

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Speaker 1: us now in the paylifstickers hotline. Right now, it doesn't

476
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Speaker 1: matter what happens. Twenty four hours a day, your phone

477
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Speaker 1: is on is on alert. You got to get up

478
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Speaker 1: and get going.

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Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, yeah, Now was I looking at my phone

480
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Speaker 6: in Portugal? Maybe not that's good anyhow, but that is

481
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Speaker 6: generally true.

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Speaker 1: Yes, little flurry of activity. It was kind of like

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Speaker 1: the snow in Indianapolis yesterday where it wasn't substantive, but

484
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Speaker 1: it never stopped flurrying. That was kind of what the

485
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Speaker 1: Colts did yesterday, right, that was.

486
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Speaker 6: Very annoying weather. I'm like, why is it still snowing,

487
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Speaker 6: but it's not really snowing. So do I care or

488
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Speaker 6: do I not care? I couldn't decide, And it was

489
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Speaker 6: kind of like that yesterday. Yeah, the Colts made some moves.

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Speaker 6: Are we going to think a lot about those moves

491
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Speaker 6: come September October? Probably not, But I do think it's

492
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Speaker 6: one of those things that you know, like the snow

493
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Speaker 6: is just enough to know it's there, you know. It's

494
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Speaker 6: kind of like that. These moves mostly about depth. And

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Speaker 6: I will say this as fans out there, Look, I've

496
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Speaker 6: heard everything, Okay, I know it like people are not

497
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Speaker 6: necessarily content with the impact of the moves they have made.

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Speaker 6: I don't disagree that. That's fine, we all agree on that.

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Speaker 6: I will say, though, the depth moves the Colts have made,

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Speaker 6: I think I take a lot away from those. Uh

501
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Speaker 6: there at least is a little bit of a lesson

502
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Speaker 6: learned there. I don't know how they're going to fix

503
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Speaker 6: the pass rush. We'll get to that at some point,

504
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Speaker 6: but certainly last year, depth I think started to bite

505
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Speaker 6: them in the butt a little bit. I thought, at

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Speaker 6: in the secondary in particular, now, that was an imprecedented,

507
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Speaker 6: you know, sort of list of injuries, right, but you know,

508
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Speaker 6: you get it. You bring a guy like Cam Taylor

509
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Speaker 6: britt In and that is that's a good signing. I mean,

510
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Speaker 6: I think he's not a guy in line to start.

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Speaker 6: I don't think so. If that's a guy coming off

512
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Speaker 6: the bench, I like that, you know, moves like that.

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Speaker 6: You know Jerry Tillery, I don't know if he has

514
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Speaker 6: anything left of the defensive line, defensive tackle, but they

515
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Speaker 6: have definitely beefed up the depth on that defensive line

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Speaker 6: I think with some quality depths. The question is again,

517
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Speaker 6: can they find the higher end guys of which they

518
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Speaker 6: need one or two.

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Speaker 5: Stephen going back to kind of pass rusher and maybe

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Speaker 5: the top of the board. We saw day one of

521
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Speaker 5: free agency there were some young pass rushers that got

522
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Speaker 5: some really notable money around the league, and then Day

523
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Speaker 5: two that was the Max Crosby Trey Hendrickson drama that

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Speaker 5: played out. Do you view the Colts plan at pass

525
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Speaker 5: rusher at the top of the board as like it

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Speaker 5: was either Trey Hendrickson or we're not giving money to

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Speaker 5: really anybody of note.

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Speaker 6: Right, I hard to tell, but I do think they

529
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Speaker 6: they definitely had like a clear delineation between the guys

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Speaker 6: at the top who you just outlined, and then the

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Speaker 6: other guys, right, I don't know how they feel about

532
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Speaker 6: the likes of of I don't know who's left. What

533
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Speaker 6: are you talking about here.

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Speaker 5: Cam Jordan, Joey Bose, you know, And honestly, like five

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Speaker 5: years ago.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Cam Jordan was was who was on the tip

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Speaker 6: of my tongue, And yeah, I actually think they can

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Speaker 6: take it or leave it with some of those guys,

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Speaker 6: you know, just because I don't know that the impact

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Speaker 6: there is greater than the impact you get from maybe

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Speaker 6: a guy who was a part time player last year

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Speaker 6: but maybe is on the verge of being something more.

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Speaker 6: You know, there guys like that left, I don't I

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Speaker 6: don't know. I'm not so sure, but I do think

545
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Speaker 6: those are declining players, and more often than not, when

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Speaker 6: you bring guys like that in, you get less than

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Speaker 6: you bargained for. I'm just telling you, right, it's just

548
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Speaker 6: the truth. Right. I'm not saying they don't need more,

549
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Speaker 6: They need more. All I'm saying is, as a fan,

550
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Speaker 6: you should have very measured expectations for guys like that.

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Speaker 6: So I think the culture in this situation right now,

552
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Speaker 6: where they're trying to decide how much is that going

553
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Speaker 6: to move the ball for us? And should we just

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Speaker 6: keep building depth and have this committee approach, which I

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Speaker 6: think is where this is going.

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Speaker 2: It feels like, oh boy, the last time I heard

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Speaker 2: committee approach, I don't like it. Yeah, I agree, I

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Speaker 2: like it. I'm just saying, last time we heard committee approach,

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Speaker 2: Dallas Flowers was a part of that cornerback play and

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Speaker 2: we saw how that ended and it was very poorly,

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Speaker 2: I believe, in the twenty twenty four season. But Steven,

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Speaker 2: when you look at Jonathan Garnard, that's the name that's

563
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Speaker 2: come up a lot, I think, more so like online

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Speaker 2: and in trade rumors among fans and Colts fans certainly

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Speaker 2: think a lot of them thinking he's a free agent,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, he's under contract with the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: But he's a name that has popped up. How realistic

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Speaker 2: do you think it is or maybe unrealistic? Do you

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Speaker 2: think it is for Chris Ballad and company to decide

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Speaker 2: to trade, let's say, a Day two pick for a

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Speaker 2: more proven edge rusher such as Grenard.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's out of the question. I think

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Speaker 6: it's possible. I mean, I would certainly consider if I'm them.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you think about what you could get with

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Speaker 6: a Day two pick at that position. Would that player

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Speaker 6: that you land, would that player be comparable to Jonathan Grenard?

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Speaker 6: And I think the answer is very likely. Now, the

578
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Speaker 6: circumstances are different, right, you got to give up the

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Speaker 6: draft pick, but you also are likely going to have

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Speaker 6: to give him a new contract. That's probably going to

581
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Speaker 6: be a package deal. If you are making that deal,

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Speaker 6: you are in effect granting him or agreeing to terms

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Speaker 6: on a new deal. In fact, that's one of those

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Speaker 6: deals where when you make the deal, you're probably going

585
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Speaker 6: to be given permission to talk to him about a

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Speaker 6: new contract in advance, because if you can't reach that agreement,

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Speaker 6: then the trade maybe doesn't make sense for the player

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Speaker 6: and maybe he doesn't want to go there. Right, So

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Speaker 6: I think that's all or to part and parcel to

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Speaker 6: all of this. And so it is a bigger question

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Speaker 6: than should we you know, make this Should we make

592
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Speaker 6: this trade you know, one for one and then move on.

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Speaker 6: It is a bigger conversation. I still think it's something

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Speaker 6: that they should strongly consider, but I don't know what

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Speaker 6: the compensation is, and you would think though, I do

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Speaker 6: think that the you know, the estimate of like a

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Speaker 6: third fourth round pick. I think that's probably the sweet

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Speaker 6: I don't think you're talking any more than that. But

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Speaker 6: also the last thing I would just say is, I

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Speaker 6: also don't know all the circumstances there, but I don't

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Speaker 6: know exactly how motivated the Viking Guard to trade him

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Speaker 6: exactly they hold out for a better pick, you know.

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Speaker 1: Steven Holder joining us on the Paidless Liquors Hotline covers

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Speaker 1: the Cults from the ESPN dot com folks, and joining

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Speaker 1: us this morning here on the Fan Morning Show. All right, Steven,

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Speaker 1: let's go opposite of what we've been talking about. Give

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Speaker 1: me the most optimistic outlook for what the cults have

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Speaker 1: done during this free agency signing trading period.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think the thing that they're hanging their hat on,

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Speaker 6: right or wrong. Okay, this is just me observing. The

611
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Speaker 6: thing they're hanging their hat on is continuity and the

612
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Speaker 6: fact that they had something very good going early last

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Speaker 6: year before the injuries hit. Now, there will be injuries, okay,

614
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Speaker 6: because there always are, it's football. But they did have

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Speaker 6: just you know, a devastating series of injuries too. Frankly,

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Speaker 6: all of their best players. The likelihood of that happening

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Speaker 6: again is probably minimal. Okay. I'm not sitting here telling

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Speaker 6: you that Daniel Jones has been a durable player. I'm

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Speaker 6: just talking in general. The likelihood that your quarterback, your

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Speaker 6: your Pro Bowl defensive tackle, your two best corners, on

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Speaker 6: and on and on, the likelihood that all those guys

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Speaker 6: get hurt at the same time of the season is minimal.

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Speaker 6: I don't think that's likely to happen in that exact

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Speaker 6: fashion again, So they're banking on that, if these guys

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Speaker 6: are available, we can replicate some of that. I don't

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Speaker 6: disagree with that. The only thing I'd say is that

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Speaker 6: you know you are you are kind of looking at

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Speaker 6: a best case scenario and hoping that you can repeat that,

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Speaker 6: and that is that is difficult. And the other thing

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Speaker 6: I'd say is that Daniel, I'm not answering your question

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Speaker 6: very optimistically, I guess. But the other thing I'd say,

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Speaker 6: just real quick, is that you know, Daniel Jones has

633
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Speaker 6: to prove not only that he can come back, but

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Speaker 6: that he can play like he played last year. Now,

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Speaker 6: if they're right about all that, and they're probably not

636
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Speaker 6: right about all of it, but if they are right

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Speaker 6: about all of that I think they still have a

638
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Speaker 6: talented team. I mean, I look at the secondary, and

639
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Speaker 6: we never even saw that group together. Man, we never

640
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Speaker 6: saw that group together. If that secondary is out there,

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Speaker 6: that is a that is a viable defense. I don't

642
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 6: love the edge of us, but I'm just saying, like,

643
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Speaker 6: all of a sudden, now Leatsu Latu might be a

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Speaker 6: guy if he's got soft Gardner and Moneyward behind him,

645
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Speaker 6: or even justin Wally for that matter, right, I mean,

646
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Speaker 6: now it changes things. I mean those corners they played

647
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Speaker 6: last year, they were a god awful god awful all right,

648
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Speaker 6: absolutely not NFL level at times.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just saying, I mean.

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Speaker 6: Like that was not a was not a winning defense

651
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Speaker 6: that you saw at times because of the personnel. So

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Speaker 6: if everybody if the game's back together, I think they

653
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Speaker 6: feel very differently about this team, and they should.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 2: The last thing I do want to ask, and this

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Speaker 2: is another one that has been popping up a lot

657
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Speaker 2: among the fan base, is what do you think is

658
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: the likelihood of signing a veteran quarterback? So let's assume

659
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: that Anthony Richardson gets traded. That leads you with two quarterbacks.

660
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: Do you draft one or do you sign a veteran.

661
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: How realistic do you think either path is?

662
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 6: I think this is this is one where I could

663
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 6: go either way, But I don't sense any motivation by

664
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 6: them to do that. I don't. I'm not promising you

665
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 6: that they're going with Riley Leonard, but I think they're

666
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 6: going with Riley Leonard. I do think that it's one

667
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 6: of those things. The way it's been explained to me,

668
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 6: not recently, but just in general over the last weeks

669
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 6: and months. The way it's been explaining to me is

670
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 6: that they'll just kind of keep an eye on things,

671
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 6: and it's if something presents itself that makes sense, they

672
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 6: would consider it. Okay, But but I think it has

673
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 6: to be the right guy, the right price, the right place.

674
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 6: You know, it's got to be something that they think

675
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 6: has a potential better out.

676
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: Can I interest you in the veteran Joe Flacco? Not? No,

677
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: you absolutely cannot me.

678
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: I might. I might throw him out of the studio

679
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: right now.

680
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 5: Listen.

681
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 6: We love Joe, we love like I love Joe.

682
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: But not playing for the Colts.

683
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 6: No, Like, there's no upside. Riley Leonard has some upside.

684
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 6: I mean I saw some in that Houston game.

685
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: Again Bowl MVP right here on the air waves, disrespect.

686
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: Listen.

687
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 6: Once the highest paid player in the NFL, but he'd

688
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 6: probably do it for two million.

689
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: Now. I don't know.

690
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 6: I just think I think that they feel like the continuity,

691
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 6: you know, with Riley Leonard and the potential growth there outweighs,

692
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 6: you know, whatever the experience you might get from Joe Flacko.

693
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 6: I just think the playmaking from Joe it's just not

694
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 6: going to be there, you know. I just don't think

695
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 6: it's going to be there. Joe can execute. He can execute,

696
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 6: no question about it. He understands the calls, he knows

697
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 6: the playbook like the back of his hand. Oh, that's

698
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 6: not going to be an issue. But at the end

699
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 6: of the day, you still have to go out there

700
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 6: and execute and make plays. And that's the part I

701
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 6: worry about, with Joe being a year older.

702
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: As well, Stephen.

703
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 5: To be clear, I don't think and this will last

704
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 5: one for me. I don't think this is how it's

705
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 5: going to happen. But you know, now that we're about

706
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 5: ten days into free agency, part is kind of like,

707
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 5: should they even move Anthony Richardson? Like it's clear they

708
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 5: don't need cap space, they're not really spending their cap

709
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 5: space they have. Now, if you look at what Justin

710
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 5: Fields just netted from a draft pick standpoint, it's not

711
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 5: like you're going to get some great draft pick by

712
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 5: moving Anthony Richardson. What if Daniel Jones has a setback?

713
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 5: What if Daniel Jones has his typical injury history, then

714
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 5: you might need a starter for X amount of games?

715
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 5: And now we're getting into I guess Richardson or Riley

716
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 5: Leonard debate. But there is part of me it's just

717
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 5: kind of like, you know what I don't I mean,

718
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 5: is he really that big of a distraction?

719
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: I I don't know.

720
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 5: Again, I don't think this is how it's going to

721
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 5: play out, but that thought is kind of crept into

722
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 5: my head.

723
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 6: Listen, you're not the only one. I've thought about it too,

724
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 6: and I actually think it's borderline. They're responsible, let's be honest, man,

725
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 6: Like Daniel Jones is coming off an Achilles tier. From

726
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 6: the outside looking in, I think it sounds a little

727
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 6: bit aggressive. You know, wait a minute, your quarterback, who

728
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 6: you just paid eighty eight million dollars is in the

729
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 6: middle of a huge and long rehab process and you're

730
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 6: going to trade your former first round pick. That sounds

731
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 6: ridiculous right just on the surface, but I think what

732
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 6: it says, what do we take from that? Why are

733
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 6: they doing this in the face of everything? And I

734
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 6: think the only takeaway is that they're done with Anthony Richardson.

735
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 6: I don't think this is about him being a distraction.

736
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 6: He certainly has never been that, and there's no issue there.

737
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 6: I just think they understand that they don't want that.

738
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 6: They want no question about who their quarterback is, and

739
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 6: there isn't after that contract that's number one and number two.

740
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 6: They know that. They just don't, or at least Shane Spykeen,

741
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 6: I believe, just does not see a future with Anthony Richardson,

742
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 6: and he's pulled the ripcord as far as I can tell.

743
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 6: I mean, there's just no other interpretation. Whether that's irresponsible

744
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 6: or prudence and all that, that's a debate we can have,

745
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 6: but there's no question that is what has happened here.

746
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 6: So I think it's just best for everybody to find

747
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 6: a new play, a new home, and move forward. But

748
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 6: I think you're asking the right question, and I don't

749
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 6: think it's I don't think it's an improper question at all.

750
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: Steven, how you feeling about seven seed Miami and ten

751
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: seed Missouri in the first round.

752
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, listen, here's here's the good thing. I

753
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 6: feel like they're gonna win Miami. But you know, even

754
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 6: if they don't play well, the odds are I'm going

755
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 6: to fall asleep and I'm not going to have to

756
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 6: witness it.

757
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 5: So after Purdue, right, they're they're super late on Friday

758
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 5: and I aren't there.

759
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know it won't start on time, so

760
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 6: the odds are I'm not going to have to be

761
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 6: subjected to the loss if they lose, so I win. Okay,

762
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 6: it's all good.

763
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: They actually had a good season this year. But that

764
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: they've had a really good season this year, I think.

765
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 6: They have They really have this. They have this really

766
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 6: bright young coach Gay Lucas, and they were awful last year. Okay,

767
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 6: they were awful, and you know, nil helps of course,

768
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 6: but they're pointing. They're getting pointed in the right direction here,

769
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 6: and this was like one of their most surprising seasons

770
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 6: I think. Ever, it just wasn't anticipated. So you know, hey,

771
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 6: I'll take.

772
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: It all right, Well, hopefully you can stay stay awake

773
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: and maybe you'll see in Miami victory. Who knows.

774
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 6: All right, we'll do our best, all.

775
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: Right, Buddy March is already delivering. The NCAA tournament in full,

776
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: gets underway tomorrow. We got two more playing games later

777
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: on tonight, but already delivering. We had a last second, literally,

778
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: with one second remaining, Texas hit a game winner last night.

779
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: Trabon Mark got it and they eliminated North Carolina State.

780
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: Have you guys picked up on the story of Kenny

781
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: Blakeney at Howard at all? Have you been following that

782
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: at all? James lifetime assistant, right, Yeah, he played for

783
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: Duke back in what thirty years ago? I think nineteen

784
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: ninety five, and I think he's been an assistant at

785
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: six different schools over twenty four years before he got

786
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: this job. And now the Bison that Howard three tournament

787
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 1: appearances in four years and they won their first tournament

788
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: game last night.

789
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was cool to see as his players kind

790
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 5: of mobbed him after the game, all put a bunch

791
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 5: of towels on his head. And I really well thought

792
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 5: of Mike Bray, former Notre Dame coach, was an assistant

793
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 5: on those Duke teams. He had some nice words to

794
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 5: say about him. You know, throughout Howard making the tournament

795
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 5: obviously and getting the win last night.

796
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: And again I mentioned this.

797
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 5: A little bit earlier, but you know, for some of

798
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 5: these schools tonight, Prairie View against Lehigh, there is a

799
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 5: thought that financially, you'd rather be in the playing game

800
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 5: you get. I believe it's like a two million dollar

801
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 5: I think the NC calls him these units. If you win,

802
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 5: you get a two million dollar unit, and a huge

803
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 5: huge chunk of that A is going to your university

804
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 5: athletic program, et cetera, and B even gets spread out

805
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 5: a little bit from for your conference. So you know,

806
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 5: Oakland beating Kentucky, you know, got that. And if you

807
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 5: win a playing game, it count. So you know, from

808
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 5: a financial standpoint, not to mention an eyeballs, you know,

809
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 5: let's say Howard loses by thirty to Michigan on Friday

810
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 5: or Thursday, whenever that game is. They just got their

811
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 5: moment last night. You know, you get the on court interview,

812
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 5: you get all that. I just think that is a

813
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 5: cool moment for a lot of those smaller sixteen seeds.

814
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: Speaking of cool moments, a buddy of mine that I

815
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: was talking to last night had this suggestion. I don't

816
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,959
Speaker 1: think the NCAA would ever do it, but it would

817
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: be kind of cool. But I don't see it happening.

818
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: But Brayden Smith winning if he breaks the old time

819
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: assists record passes Bobby Hurley. Man, he was like, wouldn't

820
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: it be cool if they just stopped the game at

821
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: a time out and had Bobby Hurley come out there

822
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: and shake his hand. I don't think that's going to

823
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: happen in the NCAA tournament, but that would be pretty cool. Man.

824
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: Are you guys a fan of that? I mean, I

825
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: know when Lebron broke the scoring record in the NBA

826
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, they like stopped the game

827
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: and they had these big like moment. But I don't know.

828
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: Part of me is like, can't we address that after

829
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: the game, especially in a moment like that. Now the

830
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: Lebron game, it's funny. I make the joke whenever he

831
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 2: breaks the record, they always lose. But when it comes

832
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: to Braden Smith in the NCAA tournament, like, that's a

833
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: high stakes game. I don't know if I want it

834
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: to be stopped in the middle of it to recognize

835
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 2: a feat that is great. Don't get me wrong, it

836
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: is fantastic, but would take away from the focus of hey,

837
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 2: we got to win a game to advance, to stay alive.

838
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 5: I would assume they will not I would think they would.

839
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, if the game is in Macki,

840
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 5: for example, not the produe can that's a little different.

841
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 5: Not that Purdue can control what the officials are doing.

842
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 5: But during a time out obviously.

843
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm cool with. But I'm like stopping a game, yo,

844
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: get back on defense.

845
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 3: Gotta stop again. He just needs to assist so he

846
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 3: might do in the first two possessions. Yeah, none of

847
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: the game here.

848
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: You know, you talk about records that are going to

849
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: be tough to break. To this day and age where

850
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: really good players are one and done or maybe two

851
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: and done, you have to stick around for four years

852
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: somewhere to break that all time record. And to do it,

853
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be on a pretty decent basketball

854
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,959
Speaker 1: team like Purdue that scores a lot of points because

855
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: that's where the assist you know, start with right there.

856
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a tough one to get.

857
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: I think, James, Yeah, a lot of guys don't stay

858
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: as long as Brydon because if you're usually, if you're

859
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: good enough, you just leave. And then on top of that,

860
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: if you're not good enough, sometimes you just leave the

861
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: school and go somewhere else and your role changes. So

862
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: it's a testament to it's consistency, his loyalty, and I'm

863
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing him back out there Friday.

864
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: And one quick thing on finishing up Braiden Smith too.

865
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: It was great to listen to the coach yesterday from

866
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: Queen's talking about and we've heard this from other coaches too,

867
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: like you can't fool it. You'll throw a different defense

868
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: out in the middle of the game, and he just

869
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: instinctively knows what to do, where to go, and how

870
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: the basketball needs to travel.

871
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you miss at the Grant Leonard interview, I

872
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 5: really enjoyed Marcus isolated that up on our podcast. So

873
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 5: the Queen's head coach had a lot I think really

874
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 5: it was pretty candid about his thoughts on.

875
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: Purdue and their program in general.

876
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 5: And Mark Dyton, I believe you want Braiden Smith to

877
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 5: not pass it right, you want him to shoot the

878
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 5: back basketball here coming.

879
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 4: Up, you can get a couple of assists but yeah,

880
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 4: for the most part, let's get some NBA jam flamethrowers going.

881
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 3: Should we commence our playoff draft? Oh?

882
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: Sure, okay, you don't remind us who everybody has? You

883
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: want to remind yourself who's on I don't.

884
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 4: I didn't write it down, so hopefully Kevin did or

885
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 4: somebody's keeping a record of this.

886
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 2: Well, just everyone's real quick go around. Say who will

887
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: you drafted for your first two?

888
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 3: Mark? I'm sure you're very proud to announce your team.

889
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 3: I'll go first before Mark reveals it.

890
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 5: I went with freshman Ajdabantsa Byu with a third overall pick,

891
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 5: Kingston Flemings, the point guard at Houston.

892
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: Okay, James. I went with Jaksa Lindenburg from Michigan, and

893
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: then I went with the the Arizona Kid. Right after that,

894
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: Burry's braden Berry's Okay, I.

895
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 2: Got cam Boozer and Keaton Woggler. Cam Boozer obviously on

896
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: the Great Duke team in Keaton Woggler for my line,

897
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: who I'm repping today?

898
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: All right? And uh, Mark, do we want to redraft

899
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: the order again?

900
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 4: A topping like a moron? That's fine, Kevin, Kevin strong

901
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 4: armed me. He took the bands of right before men.

902
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 4: He threw me in a loop, so I'm blaming him.

903
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 4: And then I took Braydon Smith as my back and forth.

904
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 3: Mark panic like the girl that's never talked to him before.

905
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 3: I came up to him and said hi to him.

906
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: Thank God here.

907
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 5: So just to remind everybody, we're picking five player teams.

908
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 5: No positional rules apply here and simply it's just the

909
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 5: most points scored through the tournament.

910
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: So you can go with the guy it's gonna.

911
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 5: Score a lot in a few games, or go with

912
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 5: the guy that might not score a ton but might

913
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 5: be on a team that's playing here in Indy. So, Mark,

914
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 5: we are back to the start of the draft.

915
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: Should be back to James.

916
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me Darius a Cuff junior.

917
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: That's a good pick.

918
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 5: There are a lot of people James that thought he

919
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 5: should have been picked earlier.

920
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and those people need to relax. It's a draft

921
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: for a reason. Give me a time to select. I

922
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: feel like I'm Chris Ballard here.

923
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 5: Great Arkansas, My I think that second round matchup Wisconsin

924
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 5: Arkansas could be a great game. That was my hesitancy

925
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 5: with a cup. I think could have been too and done. Well,

926
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 5: I need him score forty so and they win.

927
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 3: Nonetheless, very good pick.

928
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: All right, is that me or you? I can't remember.

929
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: I am gonna go with Graham Eke from Gonzaga. That

930
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: guy just scores buckets constantly. And I think Gonzaga at

931
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 1: least a Sweet sixteen team, maybe an Elite eighteen this year.

932
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 3: Gosh, man, am I gonna pick Daron Peterson?

933
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 5: I will go with uh.

934
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 3: I'll go with Trey Coffman Wren.

935
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a that's a sneaky good.

936
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 3: Movie than Mark here.

937
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 5: I think he will be more of the score for Purdue,

938
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 5: and so I'm gonna go with Trey Kaufman Wren.

939
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: But you know, to be fair to Mark, if if

940
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: if Brydon scores fourteen points a game for five or

941
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 1: six games, that starts that up after a while.

942
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 4: All right, I will take Darren Peterson since Kevin did not,

943
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 4: I will take Darren Peterson.

944
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the risk.

945
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 4: Hopefully he doesn't have any pregame cramps or anything like that.

946
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 4: He could get it done and then my my follow back,

947
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 4: Let's go Nick Boyd out of Wisconsin.

948
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, that's a good one.

949
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 3: This is our final round for today?

950
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 5: Is that right?

951
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

952
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 4: You want to do another one tomorrow? Our final round

953
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 4: will be tomorrow's round tomorrow.

954
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna take Joshua Jefferson from Iowa State here.

955
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 5: I think anybody that watched Perdue Iowa State earlier this

956
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 5: year knows that Iowa State can.

957
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 3: Really really score. And I actually think.

958
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 5: They I have them representing that bottom right bracket. I

959
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 5: think they'll be the Midwest Region over Michigan. So Joshua

960
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 5: Jefferson out of Iowa State, Okay, one of two you.

961
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: Could have taken from Iowa State probably, all right, forgive me,

962
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: my brain's not working that you alright, James, Next, I

963
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: think it's you, it's me. I'm gonna go with Alex

964
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: Condon from Florida. Florida I think will get to the

965
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: final four, right to it, and he's he just does

966
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: all of it, and I think they're gonna have to

967
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: lean on him to score again if he can just

968
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: get fifteen sixteen points a game for I don't know,

969
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: four games, maybe even five.

970
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 3: Let's go give me.

971
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: Boy, I gotta think about this one. Give me co

972
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: O Pete second leading score on Arizona. I think they're

973
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: going to make a deep run, and it's always good

974
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: to have someone else who I think is gonna get

975
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: a few games are under their belt.

976
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: All right, there we go. I like it. I like

977
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: my team. I like your team too well.

978
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: I successfully chose players that were available, you know, no season,

979
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 2: any injuries, also, no cramp issues. So we'll see if

980
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: Mark's roll the dice and all seriously pays off.

981
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 4: I don't I have to roll the dice at this point,

982
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't blame you on that one.

983
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: I do want to see him get after it in

984
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 2: the nca term and not just for our little competition

985
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: before the paceroffs.

986
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: Want to see, well he could just carry carry Kansas deep, yeah.

987
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: Or it's possible that he can't hold up for a

988
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: full game. I mean he's I know he's played I

989
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 2: want to say, the last six or seven games, played

990
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: in all those games. But he also hasn't shot it

991
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: well during that stretch. So is he going to be

992
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: the Darren Peterson that we saw early in the season

993
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: where we were like, oh, he's a lock for the

994
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: number one pick, or are we going to see the

995
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: other guy who's making everyone a little skeptical about his

996
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: possibility of being a franchise pillar.

997
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 5: He's had several games over thirty minutes here as of late.

998
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 5: Just to note, you know everything on that update.

999
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: But again in those games, he has not shot it

1000
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: well at all.

1001
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin, I know you've been very interested in your

1002
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: keeping track this first four game coming up tonight, Miami

1003
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: against SMU. You talked about the fact you're a little

1004
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 1: surprised that it's a six and a half point spread

1005
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: right now in favor of SMU. I don't know a

1006
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: ton about SMU.

1007
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: Boopy Miller. I've watched SMU.

1008
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 5: That is literally his name, Booty Miller is a great

1009
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 5: guard for SMU, and they definitely have some size in

1010
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 5: the front court, which is not Miami Ohio's forte. So

1011
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 5: if you have not watched Miami of Ohio this season,

1012
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 5: they're very They got much. It was like six five

1013
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 5: six six dudes really kind of the two three four.

1014
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 5: They have a Rutgers transfer Wolf Fork. He's their big guy. Yeah,

1015
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 5: just picture typical Rutgers, just kind of bruising six', nine two.

1016
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 3: THIRTY i do like a couple of their. Guards they.

1017
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 5: My ohia brings this little guard off a bench that

1018
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 5: is pretty pretty, active and Again Pete souter has been

1019
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 5: great for them this. Season The carmel products uh And

1020
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 5: Justin kirby gets some minutes out Of fisher's, here so

1021
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 5: they'll shoot, it they'll pass.

1022
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 3: It they're very.

1023
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 5: BALANCED i have a FEELING i don't know what the

1024
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 5: over under. IS i would assume the over under has

1025
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 5: got to be huge for this game because that's something

1026
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 5: you really really.

1027
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 3: Scored so it should be an entertaining game.

1028
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: Tonight, yeah how crazy would it. Be virginia is sitting

1029
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: there at a number three. Seed they're in The midwest right.

1030
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 1: Now if they get all the way to The sweet

1031
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: sixteen or even The elite, eight hard to remember or

1032
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: hard to. Believe you go back in, Time butler beat

1033
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: them in the early part of the, season remember that

1034
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: when they were healthy and had.

1035
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: Everybody, YEAH i do remember. That, Honestly, Virginia they're still

1036
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: basketball has always was always kind of boring to. Me

1037
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 2: so we'll see if that.

1038
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: Changes one hundred and sixty three and a.

1039
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 5: Half that is our over under tonight for Miam ohio AND.

1040
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 5: Smu so you do the math on that. One you

1041
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 5: got teams get into the eighties.

1042
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: THERE i, say first one to seventy.

1043
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 5: Five the first game last night was a, great great first.

1044
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: One that bam out Of bayo Wins.

1045
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: Man, yeah that Was that was a night last night

1046
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: and basketball on. Everywhere you had The Pacers nicks, going

1047
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: you had the two play in games happening last, night

1048
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: you had before all that. Started did you got did

1049
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: you catch Any james of TSA's women's team last? Night

1050
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: you have a chance, to.

1051
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: And they didn't really tune. In and, honestly it's hard

1052
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: for me. TO i got to check the Box squad'll

1053
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: see the, highlights but it's hard for me to get

1054
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: engaged with those games because there's so much better than

1055
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: the other team where it's like you can put anybody

1056
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: out there From TEAM usa and you're gonna won by.

1057
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 3: Fifty so, Yeah Kaitlyn clark looked good and was.

1058
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: Healthy, yeah and that's my usual. Takeaway and here's the scary.

1059
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: Part that's not even the varsity that was playing for

1060
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: the most part this past. Week.

1061
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah Because Asa wilson wasn't, There Randa, stewart others

1062
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: who are going to be locks for the Next olympic.

1063
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 2: Games but, again the gap between women's basketball TEAM usa

1064
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: and the rest of the world is still very massive

1065
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: compared to how it is on the men's, side WHERE

1066
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 2: i think there's a real possibility they could lose in

1067
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 2: the Next olympics in twenty twenty.

1068
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 6: Eight