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Speaker 3: I served at the NIH for over fifty four years,

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Speaker 3: However, given Senator Paul's obvious obsession with calling for my prosecution,

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Speaker 1: There's there's always a response to an action. The human

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Speaker 1: I said this yesterday, but we should be clear he

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Speaker 1: has learned. He has learned there's a way you have

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Speaker 1: you have to deal with America, and there's a way

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Speaker 1: you get your story out there. Yes, Russia is the aggressor,

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Speaker 1: and I wholeheartedly agree that Russia has to be thwarted,

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Speaker 1: and it's better to thwart them while they're trying to

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Speaker 1: a NATO nation that forces us to fight. Russia is

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Speaker 1: the aggressor, and Russia must be dealt with, of course,

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Speaker 1: and it's better to help Ukraine to force Russia to

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Speaker 1: lose treasure. They can't keep this up for forever. They

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Speaker 1: And this is turning against Putin. If you think that

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Speaker 1: that's on seriousness. Can Putin kill his political enemies, Well,

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Speaker 1: There is no training of a military whatsoever, and economic

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Speaker 1: on this sanctions bill, and it's very possible it is

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Speaker 1: work on. And it targets Russian or oil sales, very

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Speaker 1: bad news for China. Everything always comes back to China,

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Speaker 1: every single moment, every single hour of every single day.

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Speaker 1: Everything is a move to thwart China. The series of

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Speaker 1: deal to combine the Russia sanctions package with the sanctions

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Speaker 1: on Iran. We are proud to announce an agreement on

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Speaker 1: legislation to stop purchasers of Russian oil and gas from

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Speaker 1: fueling Putin's Putin's Putin's warm, sorry about that, and to

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Speaker 1: continue restricting the Iranian regime's ability to support terrorism and

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Speaker 1: is that it admits that Iran supports terrorism. Very damaging

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Speaker 1: for Democrats who want to say, well, Rand never did

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Speaker 1: is no greater way they write to honor Centertorgram's legacy

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Speaker 1: than to move forward with this bipartisan agreement. And we

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Speaker 1: look forward to today's vote. This is good, this is

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Speaker 1: good news. Now we should also note that the American

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Speaker 1: perception on Ukraine has changed incredibly. So has changed, and

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Speaker 1: happy with Ukraine, maybe they don't want to do this anymore.

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Speaker 1: So they were all about it a few years back,

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Speaker 1: so they're moving with political wins. What Trump has said,

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Speaker 1: and we've talked about this before, is that you see

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Speaker 1: Ukraine learning how to handle itself. You see Ukraine building

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Speaker 1: out this drone capability and they've proved themselves to be

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Speaker 1: outrageously effective. They have seen from the dust up in

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Speaker 1: to engage in actions as a leader, never mind how

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Speaker 1: to appease Trump. All Right, he's wearing the sports coat

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Speaker 1: when he visits the Oval office, now right, it's not

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Speaker 1: even a full suit, but it's close. But he understands that.

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Speaker 1: What his argument is that we are taking on this

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Speaker 1: aggressor that's a threat to the world into Western civilization,

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Speaker 1: and we are happy to take it on. We're not

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Speaker 1: looking for a handout. We are looking for assistance to

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Speaker 1: allow us to do the job of taking on this

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Speaker 1: fight for you, which is what I believe he learned

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Speaker 1: from the Israelis. And that argument works because one could argue,

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Speaker 1: if you don't want to give up American blood, better

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Speaker 1: theirs than ours, And you say to me, Tony, that's cold,

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Speaker 1: I'm also saying to you that is how it's viewed.

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Speaker 1: And also I didn't say anything that you wouldn't say

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Speaker 1: to yourself in the deep dark recesses of your mind. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is right. They're the ones that are in this fight.

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Speaker 1: They have to actually be in it. And they've shown

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Speaker 1: they can be in it, and so this has changed.

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Speaker 1: But the sanctions package, I can't wait to dig in.

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Speaker 1: If it's including Iran and it amidst that Iran as terrorists,

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Speaker 1: it's a double hit for the left. Even though we've

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Speaker 1: got some Democrats in here with this bipartisan agreement. Can

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Speaker 1: the left bring themselves to vote for this, because it's

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Speaker 1: the admission that taking on the terrorist regime of Iran

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Speaker 1: and ending them is the right thing to do, and

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Speaker 1: more sanctions prove the point. Interesting stuff, keep it here.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Kats today. So it should be an

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Speaker 1: interesting weekend because I assume nothing's going to happen until

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Speaker 1: the weekend with President Trump saying he's going to hit

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Speaker 1: Iran hard for sending missiles at US bases and Jordan

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Speaker 1: and other places. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Dow at one moment was down eight

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Speaker 1: hundred points today because of this. That, and of course

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Speaker 1: they're waiting on a decision from the FED. And yet somehow,

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Speaker 1: with the possibility of re engagement with Iran, the big

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Speaker 1: story is Anthony Fauci. Well, I shouldn't say somehow it's

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Speaker 1: not surprising Anthony Fauci saying he's not going to testify.

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Speaker 1: He's there in front of this Senate committee, he absolutely

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Speaker 1: refuses to testify, refuses to do it, pleading the fifth

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Speaker 1: every step of the way, and it led to some

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Speaker 1: interesting responses from senators like Bernie Moreno of Ohio.

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Speaker 4: It was about six years ago today that I decided

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Speaker 4: I'm going to give up my businesses, sell them all,

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Speaker 4: run for office, run.

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Speaker 1: For the United States Senate.

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Speaker 4: Here I am sitting in front of you, six years later, saying,

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Speaker 4: who the fuck do you think you were for doing that?

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Speaker 1: It is a total disgrace what you did to this country.

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Speaker 4: And if my Democrat colleagues are standing there defending you,

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Speaker 4: I hope the voters the United States of America watched

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Speaker 4: the clips of every one of you doting on a

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Speaker 4: guy who was more interested in being a celebrity than

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Speaker 4: saving American people. I will make it my mission to

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Speaker 4: make certain that every single one of those republic Democrats

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Speaker 4: who did that, we'll see that clip over and over

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Speaker 4: and over again, because defending there is no defense of.

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Speaker 1: What you did.

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Speaker 4: You may have had a fifty plus year legacy of

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Speaker 4: public service, but it ends in total and complete disgrace.

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Speaker 1: I think he's speaking for a lot of people right there.

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Speaker 1: Find everything at Tony That's dot com. Tomorrow, everyone take care,