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Speaker 2: Okay, it's ten oh.

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Speaker 1: Six, Friday, September the fifth, and I got to do

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Speaker 2: Oh no, what were you right about something?

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Speaker 1: For those of you are longtime listeners, you know, but

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Speaker 1: Joun'm rob that's Casey my least favorite part of every

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Speaker 1: is where I've come on this program and tell you

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Speaker 1: how you are fabulous audience, how right I was about something.

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Speaker 1: But we're about to talk about another example of how

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Speaker 1: we have been telling you for years on this program.

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Speaker 1: As your government, your state government was offering all of

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Speaker 1: these giveaways under Holcombe and the Republican yesman in the

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Speaker 1: General Assembly for a variety of reasons. We're not objecting

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Speaker 1: to any of it. That we were going to pay

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Speaker 1: up big time. And the problem with what Hulcombe was doing,

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Speaker 1: and anytime government gets involved in something, the expansion of

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Speaker 2: Even though it's not sustainable, they kept doing it.

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Speaker 1: Right, So what Hulcombe did, and he is a complete

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Speaker 3: And by the way, I've.

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Speaker 1: Been at this for years now, Casey, It's not like

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Speaker 1: if you know you're doing it, but just to see

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Speaker 2: I often wonder how far are you going to go?

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Speaker 3: The uh oh? That's part of being a trade professional.

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Speaker 3: You gotta know how far are you right?

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Speaker 1: It's see Obamacare. Once the government gives you gives an

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Speaker 1: all the people getting the freebies, the able bodied people.

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Speaker 1: People are outraged, Well what is this? Yeah, hey, fatty,

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Speaker 1: Everyone should be outraged that Holcomb did this and the

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Speaker 3: Casing and then there it is, Yeah, that's right here.

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Speaker 3: Let me I'm gonna do this while we're on the air.

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Speaker 3: So what to do that?

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Speaker 1: I would take thirty five These are things I did

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Speaker 3: On the fly.

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Speaker 1: Here, sixty three percent increase we increase the amount of

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Speaker 1: Why these people don't need it?

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Speaker 2: And this is post COVID, post.

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Speaker 1: state finally stepped in. FSSA, the Family Social Services Administration,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the reimbursement cuts are going to apply ten

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Speaker 1: And the Capitol Chronicle has a big article on this,

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Speaker 1: Look, daycare prices have exploded, Yes, and I feel more

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Speaker 3: By the way, did you like the costume picture I

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Speaker 2: I love the pictures they may got.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the picture you sent me was great because your daughter,

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Speaker 3: I know where that red light is at all times, right, right.

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Speaker 1: But the point is, like I feel incredibly fortunately see

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Speaker 3: But the point is what it costs.

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Speaker 1: What it costs, right, And my wife and I made

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Speaker 1: People who did have business getting it then certainly don't

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Speaker 2: So the interesting thing is you said, as of July

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Speaker 2: In December of twenty four that number was sixty eight thousand.

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Speaker 1: As they're doubled. Yeah, so they doubled, was double. They

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Speaker 2: So FSSA said the shortfall is a result of unsustainable

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about that for a second, because

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Speaker 3: We were the resistance.

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Speaker 3: And now what are they doing.

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Speaker 1: Look at all the messes that were left and all

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Speaker 1: the government that Brown is quote unquote cutting. Of course,

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Speaker 1: But always see Braun coming in and doing or bragging

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Speaker 1: And they labeled us as extremists and shock jocks and

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Speaker 3: And now here they are admitting we were right.

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Speaker 1: This guy took a giant This guy Holcom took a

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Speaker 2: So now they're saying that these cuts could lead to

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Speaker 2: reduced availability for care options, lower quality childcare, and also

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Speaker 1: So let me get this struggle, Casey. Was their daycare

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Speaker 3: Yes? Was their quality daycare before twenty twenty?

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Speaker 2: Yes? But I like to think so. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: had my own daughter in daycare for a while, right,

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Speaker 2: So you have experience with this, and that's going back

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Speaker 1: So you can vouch that the in the twenty two

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Speaker 1: In the twenty tens, there was quality daycare. And yet

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Speaker 3: Go to work, pay for your kid, stop asking me

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Speaker 3: to do it. That's the answer. All right. We gotta

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Speaker 2: And I saw many people, you know, saying it's not

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Speaker 2: So data shows that FEVER games without her average fifty

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Speaker 2: I just compared her to Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that the Simons are now regretting their

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Speaker 1: A lot of stuff, And this stuff is political correctness,

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna get into housing here in a second.

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Speaker 1: But first I saw this stat on the internet, so

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Speaker 2: Of course it's.

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Speaker 1: It's from the Athletic I Believe, which is an online

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Speaker 2: I believe. That used to belong to the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but now they've.

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Speaker 1: So the Colts fan base comes in at seven percent.

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Speaker 3: National Football League. Did they just lose every year?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like they found a way to lose that game

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Speaker 2: The answer is yes, Eagles one.

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Speaker 1: And I think what that means is, obviously it's not

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Speaker 2: The expectation is very low.

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Speaker 1: There's no hope we're going to make a deep playoff run.

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Speaker 1: making the playoffs. But then you know, even if we

442
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Speaker 1: make it, we're going out in the first round.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so insert rant about cost of the stadium here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, very good, Thanks for teaming up. I didn't know

445
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Speaker 1: you're gonna do that, which it does come back to

446
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: we Unfortunately, I did I promise you, Casey, and I

447
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 1: did not discuss that whatsoever. It does come back to though,

448
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Speaker 1: we as taxpayers have a financial investment in the Colts

449
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 1: by force, and unfortunately, whether you're a football fan or not,

450
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: you need to be cheering for the Colts because your

451
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: wallet is at stake.

452
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Speaker 3: And to your point, when you have.

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Speaker 1: A mediocre team that the fan is not excited about,

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00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: and we made this financial investment as taxpayers with tax

455
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: increases based on hey all these people will be coming

456
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Speaker 1: to Indianapolis and it'll be this financial juggernaut and they'll

457
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Speaker 1: be spending all this money and blah blah blah. Well,

458
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: if by week seven or eight, people are already just

459
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: sort of you know, lukewarmed to the team, and by

460
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Speaker 1: week thirteen or fourteen, our final two or three home games,

461
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: there's thirty thousand people in Lucas Oil Stadium or forty

462
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: thousand people in Lucas Oil Stadium versus the fifty or

463
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Speaker 1: sixty that there should be. Well, that's not a very

464
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Speaker 1: good investment for us, no, is it?

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Speaker 2: No? But there's something else to consider. As the Colts

466
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Speaker 2: have their first regular season game against the Dolphins on Sunday,

467
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Speaker 2: fans are going to if people who are attending the game,

468
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Speaker 2: no matter where their hope level is, yeah, they're going

469
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: to have to contend with several construction projects that are

470
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Speaker 2: surrounding the stadium.

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Speaker 3: Tell me more.

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Speaker 2: Casey, Well, you know you've got the construction on that hotel.

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Speaker 2: You think it's really pretty, don't you?

474
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Speaker 3: Boy? It is so ugly.

475
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Speaker 2: You like what it's adding to the skyline.

476
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Speaker 1: I would I would reject staying there just based on

477
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Speaker 1: the look of things. That's the taxpayer funded hotel. By

478
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Speaker 1: the way, Yes, it would make sense that a taxpayer

479
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: funded anything would look like that hotel looks.

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Speaker 2: You also have a lot of work going on on

481
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Speaker 2: Illinois Street and Capitol.

482
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 3: Avenue, which means we can't get to work.

483
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but fans are going to have a hard time

484
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: making their way around the stadium too.

485
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Speaker 1: So there you go. If you're a Colts fan, congratulations.

486
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: If you're optimistic about the team, you're in very rare air.

487
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: Only seven percent of your fellow Colts fans share your

488
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Speaker 1: hopefulness for the twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 2: So there are dozens of small and mid sized cities

490
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Speaker 2: across the US they're offering cash or housing perks or

491
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Speaker 2: extras to attract people to live there, to move there.

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00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: Why would they do this. I would want fewer people

493
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Speaker 1: living in my city, not more.

494
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Speaker 2: This is part of a platform called Make My Move.

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Speaker 2: Oh geez, and the goal is to boost local economies

496
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Speaker 2: and fill population gaps expensive area population gaps.

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Speaker 3: What does that even mean?

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00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 2: Why are they doing this? Well, let's see, each worker

499
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: brings eighty thousand dollars to the local economy.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, the worker.

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Speaker 1: Anytime there's some economic development project, they always talk about

502
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Speaker 1: the jobs, the job to the community unless the person

503
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Speaker 1: is going to live there. As you said, is completely

504
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: irrelevant because the income tax is paid where the person lives,

505
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: not where they work. So when you look on your

506
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Speaker 1: page check you live in Marion County, I live in

507
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Speaker 1: Hendricks County, You're going to see a different county and

508
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: a different tax rate for where we live. And even

509
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: though we both work in Indianapolis, my money goes to

510
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: Hendricks County, yours goes to Marion County. Now there's been

511
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: a big fight for years to flip that, which it

512
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: probably makes some level of sense. Now, the donut counties

513
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: have fought this because so many people come to Indianapolis

514
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: to work. But you actually think about it, Where do

515
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: I use the roads the most? Where you live the

516
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: city of Indiana. No, the city of Indianapolis. I drive

517
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: you everywhere, like I mean everything.

518
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: I tried.

519
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's what I'm saying, Like I mean,

520
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying in terms of working, I'm making income. That's

521
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: a perhaps, which is why as part of the road

522
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Speaker 1: funding bill this year, the city was given an opportunity

523
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: with they'll match I think fifty millions the number.

524
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 3: With the crossroads, that the state would match the number.

525
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: But the reality of it is the majority of road

526
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: travel I do for sixty five seventy. Now it's an interstate,

527
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: of course, but then the downtown area, as glorious as

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Speaker 1: these roads are, is the city of Indianapolis. Hendricks County

529
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: gets money off of me, and I use very little

530
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: Hendricks County roads other than to get and they're all

531
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Speaker 1: town roads that I use anyway to get from my

532
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: house to the interstate.

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00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 3: And so that's been a battle for quite a while.

534
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: But yes, driving in downtown is still hell on Earth

535
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: and avoided at all costs.

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00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 2: Well, let's see if any of these perks will entice

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00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: you to move. Nobles bill yes, offering fifteen thousand in perks,

538
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: including five thousand in cash. They also have a wellness stipend,

539
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 2: a coworking space, and theme park passes.

540
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 3: So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

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Speaker 1: If you've been if let's say you're like me, you've

542
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: lived in the same place for forty years, and you've

543
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 1: been an upstanding citizen, and you've paid your taxes, and

544
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: you've volunteered for stuff, and you've helped the community.

545
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 3: You get nothing.

546
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: They're not giving you anything right for being the person

547
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: who made the place people want to live. You get nothing.

548
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 1: But if you're a foreigner, both foreigner in the sense

549
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: of out of state or in many cases you're in

550
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 1: on an H one B visa, you're a foreigner to

551
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: the country.

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00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 3: They'll pay you to come.

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00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: They'll pay you to move there. Nobles Bill whole population

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00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 2: of seventy five thousand people. Now, there are a couple

555
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: of stipulations here. Yes, you have to be eighteen or older,

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00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 2: and you have to have a job, household job making

557
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: at least eighty thousand dollars annually.

558
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: But if I'm making eighty thousand annually and I've been

559
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: there and done the things that made the place a

560
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: place people want to be, I get nothing. But if

561
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,479
Speaker 1: I'm a foreigner that comes in, you'll give them money.

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00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 2: You also get an exclusive welcome event to speak directly

563
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: to the mayor.

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00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: But if I've been there for forty years, I don't

565
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: get anything.

566
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: Correct, what planet?

567
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: Look these people that want to be critical of us saying, oh,

568
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: you guys are conspiracy theorists. When we talk about being replaced,

569
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: what other conclusion could you come to? What other conclusion

570
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: could you come to other than we are being replaced?

571
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: That the fact that they will pay some foreigner to

572
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: come in and move into and move into their city.

573
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: But if you've made it a great place, you get nothing.

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00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: You don't get the meeting with the man, you don't

575
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: get the welcome event, you don't get any event. You

576
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: get nothing other than the higher, never ending, going up

577
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: tax bill.

578
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: That's what you get.

579
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 1: But if you're from outside, well, you red carpet baby,

580
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: how could you come to any other conclusion than there

581
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: we are being replaced.

582
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: In Fort Wayne, which is the second most populated city

583
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: in the state, more than two hundred and seventy three

584
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: thousand people living there, the city is offering a total

585
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: of fourteen four hundred and eighty dollars in incentives to

586
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: those living outside of Indiana. Got to be eighteen or

587
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: older again, have to have a job making at least

588
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars annually. Some of the incentives include five

589
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: percent in down payment assistance and closing costs on a house.

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00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, which city is this?

591
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: Fort Wayne? Fort Wayne discounts and other perks at one

592
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: of Fort Wayne's favorite local breweries. Plus you get two

593
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: complimentary passes to the Fort Wayne Botanical Conservatory.

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00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: But what is Fort Wayne giving to people who have

595
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: lived there whole lives and been really good citizen.

596
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: You get nothing even if you just move across town,

597
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: if you're one side of Allen County to the other.

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00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: So, yeah, all right, a very uplifting story. Casey, thank

599
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: you for that.

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00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: You're welcome. Hammer is not with us today, but we've

601
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: got to talk about some music news coming up from

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Speaker 2: Y three w IBC.

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00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: You know, there's a whole.

604
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Speaker 1: Bunch of Foreigner fans who hated this version of Foreigner,

605
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: and those people are just full of it because this

606
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: is the best version.

607
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: Of foreigner, you think so well.

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00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: You know that like all of these groups, these these

609
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: people who they don't want to think about their music.

610
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: They just want some robotic, catchy thing.

611
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: Now. They don't want the songs that have meaning, don't

612
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: have to put any effort into it. It happened with

613
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: the Areo Speedwagon when everybody got mad at Kevin Cronin

614
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: in the in the eighties when he started what do

615
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: they call that? Is it ballad rock or whatever the

616
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: name of it is. Yeah, same thing happened with Sticks

617
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: to people ate Dennis Deyong that people just don't want

618
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: to put the effort into the music and it's just

619
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: easier to lash out at brilliance rather than embrace it

620
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 1: and participate in it.

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Speaker 2: I remember four and or four was the album. I

622
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: believe that's the one that has Jukebox Hero on it.

623
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

624
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to play that album and sing into

625
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: my hairbrush, Oh, I was a rock star in my bedroom.

626
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: Was this when you were feuding with Jenny Ruby?

627
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have been that song.

628
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: So, for those who don't know, Casey went to school

629
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Speaker 1: with Kirk kurb Street, famed Ohio state quarterback now sports

630
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: football commentator. Casey was madly in love with Kirk curb Street.

631
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: It's not And she had a feud with a girl

632
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: by the name of Jinny Ruby who also had eyes.

633
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: For kur kurb Street. No no, and.

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00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: We played basketball on the same team. Jenny and I

635
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: well there's lots of people didn't like Lane and I

636
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: lived on Shady Creek Lane.

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00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: Is that closed? It's like a stone's throw from each other.

638
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: All part of the same neighborhood.

639
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 3: Where did kirkrb Street live.

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00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: I don't remember.

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00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 3: You were over at his house all the time. What's

642
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: not Did you tell me that toy?

643
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: Kirk kurb Street big timed everybody at your reunion and

644
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: brought security with him.

645
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: He did the high school reunion. He showed up with

646
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: his his crew.

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00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: That's like actual security people. Yes, they were big fellas,

648
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: not like he just rolled in with his bros. He

649
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: actually just showed it with Do not get within five

650
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: feet of mister herb Street.

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00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: He was nice. I mean, it wasn't like h he

652
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: didn't give us the heisman, you know, the stiff arm.

653
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: Did you did you engage in conversation with mister I did?

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00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: I asked him if Jenny was coming.

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00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 3: It was like no.

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00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: He was like, oh, I don't know. That would be

657
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 2: really nice to see her.

658
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: And he's like, who are you again?

659
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: Yes, pretty much. He was like do we go to

660
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: school together? Do I know you? Now?

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00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 3: Was your school big?

662
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Speaker 2: Yes? Oh? It was, Oh yes, I mean they used

663
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: to call it like a community college.

664
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: Oh so it was there would be a reason he

665
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: would not remember people.

666
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, there was a reason he would not know me.

667
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: You know.

668
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: I wonder about that now. There's a point we played

669
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: the foreigner. We'll get to it here in a second,

670
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: But I wonder about that now, Like I think there

671
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: were sixteen hundred kids in my school when I graduated.

672
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: I think there's something like thirty two or thirty five

673
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: hundred in the school. Now, you knew or recognized almost

674
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: every single person in the school. You knew the names

675
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,719
Speaker 1: at least of most of the people in the school.

676
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: And I would say you had some sort of social

677
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: engagement with probably at some point seventy five to eighty

678
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: percent of the kids. At some point, I mean, you

679
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: were best friends. And even were your friends like you,

680
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: you were aware you had conversed with them. You would

681
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: be able to all that stuff. I wonder now, not

682
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: only just because of the amount of kids, but the

683
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: size of these schools, what percentage, like if you go

684
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 1: to a Fissures or or a Brownsburg or certainly Ben

685
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: Davis or whatever, like, what what those numbers are in

686
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: terms of like what percentage of kids you go to

687
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: school with you even have any sort of color.

688
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: I guess it's even more fragmented.

689
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: Oh, totally right, because why would you even try. That

690
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: was the thing about it was like there was a

691
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: sense of community there, so even if you weren't you

692
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: had to see these people every day, you had to

693
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: you had lockers next to them or whatever. I wonder

694
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: now what percentage of that because the but also the

695
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: communities are fragmented. It's not just the school that's fragmented.

696
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 1: Like you saw people out in the community. When Brownsberg

697
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: was a you know, a community of ten thousand people

698
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: or fifteen or twenty thousand people, you knew a lot

699
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: of the people. You knew the faces, even to know

700
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: the names, you don't. I don't feel that way anyway.

701
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: It was about twenty four hundred students and this was

702
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty eight, so that was a big school

703
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: for going.

704
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 3: You graduated at ten.

705
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 2: Yes, it was very fair, it's amazing, but it was

706
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 2: broken up into quads. You had the north, Southwest, and

707
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: East quads, and all of your classes were in that

708
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: quad area, and if somebody was in a different quad,

709
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: you really didn't engage with them as much. So I

710
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: believe that Kirk was in a different quad. And I

711
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: always like to point out that they misspelled his name

712
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: in the yearbook, not his last name, Herbstreet, his first name, Krik.

713
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: No kidding, and he was like the star, Yeah, and

714
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: they got it wrong.

715
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: Clearly.

716
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. That forever he will know that everybody knew

717
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: him Nobody, Krik, Herbstreet.

718
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 3: I wonder what happened to Krik Nobody?

719
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: All right, So we played Foreigner because what they want

720
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: this is crazy to me. Foreigner wants to play Taylor

721
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: Swift's wedding.

722
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: Yes, they put an announcement up on Instagram and they said,

723
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: we've been learning what love is for forty years and

724
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: now Taylor and Travis have too. Please accept this as

725
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 2: our formal offer to be your wedding band.

726
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: Okay, So my question is because there was something I

727
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: saw while ago that Foreigner was doing the decent thing

728
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: and getting the legitimate band back together, that being Lou

729
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: Graham the singer, and then Mick Jones sort of the

730
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: orchestra architect, much like a Jimmy Page and Robert Plant

731
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: with led Zeppelin, because they've had this pretend band for

732
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: many years. So I don't remember what the guy's name

733
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: is that pretended to be Lou Graham, And so my

734
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: question is what the first thing I want to know,

735
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: is this like legitimate foreigner with Lou Graham and Mick

736
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: Jones or is this pretend foreigner with the with the

737
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: imitator Lou Graham guy singing the songs.

738
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: Doesn't say, but they're definitely shooting their shot, right, They're saying,

739
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: we're available.

740
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: Well, let's pretend it is the legitimate foreigner with Lou

741
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: Graham on the vocals. Yeah, that's what Taylor Swift wants.

742
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: A bunch of dudes in their seventies who haven't had

743
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: a hit in forty years.

744
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: Oh what, they haven't had a hit since she's been alive.

745
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 2: I mean right, that's what I just said.

746
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: Music predates her. What I'm saying.

747
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so is this a legitimate offer. I'm sure they

748
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 2: would Taylor and Travisa, Yeah, I come on down and play.

749
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: But I think this was more them trying to use

750
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: Taylor in Travis's publicity to kind of latch on.

751
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: There's no chance, there's no chance it would actually happen.

752
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: They're just putting the offer out there because people like

753
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: TMZ are doing articles on it, so it's good publicity

754
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: for them.

755
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 2: The other thing, I don't hear a lot of people

756
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: talking about their wedding and.

757
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: Who's going to be there, where's it going to be.

758
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: I don't think people are really engaged in the wedding.

759
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: I've seen more people talking about will Taylor Swift be

760
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 2: playing at the Super Bowl this year?

761
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's will Taylor Swift actually have a wedding?

762
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: Because will it actually happened?

763
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 3: I'm not.

764
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: I'm convinced the ultimate thing for her career would be

765
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: because her fortune has been made off of I date

766
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: the same sort of skeezy skeezy guy, and then that

767
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: guy does the thing that everybody knew he was gonna do,

768
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: or behaved in a manner that everybody knew, and yet

769
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: I make a gajillion dollars writing an album about how

770
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: it is everbody's fault but mine.

771
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: But doesn't Travis Kelsey break that mold?

772
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: No, he's an insufferable You've seen like mister give me

773
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: ninety three COVID shots.

774
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what, No, he's not a Hollywood actor, he's

775
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: not in the music business.

776
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: These the things she always wanted to be which is

777
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: the whole song that first sung, You're your Name Captain

778
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: and I'm on the but but I'm convinced at this

779
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: point it could be just bear with me, right yeah?

780
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be all?

781
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: If the boyfriend break up album sold this many albums?

782
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: How much would the fiance break up? How many would

783
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: that sell?

784
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?

785
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying once her whole business plan is going

786
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 1: to go up and smoke, and look, I have.

787
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 3: A track record with this I have. My hero is

788
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 3: Bruce Springsteen.

789
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: He wrote all those awesome albums about working on cars

790
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: and chasing after chicks, and then once he got married,

791
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: what happened. He's stunk. Yeah, went through about fifteen years

792
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: of being awful. And that's what's gonna happen to her.

793
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: She won't be the victim anymore. The whole business plan's

794
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: gonna go up and smoke, and people are gonna be like,

795
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: just like we were with Springsteen. I want to hear

796
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: about your inner pain, because I have enter pain. I

797
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: don't want to hear about your happiness. I don't want

798
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: to hear about how rich you are. I don't hear

799
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: about how it all worked out for you. Tell us

800
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: how it is for us.

801
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 3: Stop being happy.

802
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 2: Bruce Springsteen, by the way, releasing Nebraska eighty two Expanded

803
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: Edition on October seventeenth. What is this money?

804
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: Me?

805
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: Give me money, money now recordings. I'm out of stuff

806
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: to put out, so I found this thing. It's like

807
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: a rummage sale. That's what this guy's doing.

808
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, He's like, put it all out there. See

809
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: what sticks be cars.

810
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: He gave an interview I saw recently where they asked,

811
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: why are you doing all this stuff? He did some documentary.

812
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: He goes some of the fact that he said I

813
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: could be dead soon.

814
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: By cashing is cashing in? That's it exactly. You're listening

815
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 2: to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three WYBC