1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Casey, I have some breaking news. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's that, Rob, I'm by wah. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: This may come as a shock to many people across 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: the fruited plain. I don't uh, I don't think the 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: governor knows what's going on? 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: You think? 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: So, don't think he has any idea what in the 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: world is going on? All right, it's kendll case show. 9 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: Casey's back, by the way's back. 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: We have a full slate today. Oh. 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: We got a million different things going on in this 12 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: world right now, and we're so glad that you have 13 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: decided to be a part of us. 14 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, Yes, correct me if I'm wrong. 15 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: Government's still shut down right, Oh yeah, it's still closed. Okay, 16 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: day twenty and it's. 17 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: Very easy to remember. Just making sure I didn't say 18 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: it is based on. 19 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: The date on the calendar. 20 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: The Yeah, that's right, because it started October the first 21 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: keVs Our YouTube broke today. Yeah, the stream is down. 22 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: I'm reaching out to engineering. 23 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: Sure. That seems about right. Absolutely. 24 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: If the governments shut down, why not the UT. 25 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we'll look forward to hearing back on that 26 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: in about three hours. So there's other ways you can 27 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: stream the program if you're like I guess we're not 28 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: on the YouTube today, but there's other ways you can 29 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: stream the program. Just go to WBC dot com. Stream 30 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: the program right there. If you have a loved one 31 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: who is in a panic at this moment in time, 32 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: just let them know they can head over to WIBC 33 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: dot com. All right, So Friday, you were gone doing 34 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: who knows what sort of you know what I had 35 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: in foreign land. 36 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: I was in a very blue city and we'll get 37 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: to that later. 38 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so Trump for the president. Yeah, it's like 39 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: you have to tell people who the politicians are. Everybody 40 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: might not know what Trump. Can we just say Trump? 41 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 4: Do? 42 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: We have to say? 43 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: I think you're good there, But just to be safe, 44 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: President Donald Trump, Yes. 45 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: The President of the United States. Multiple media outlets planning 46 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: our friends over at the Indiana Capitol Chronicle. They reported 47 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: that Trump once again is trying to put the screws 48 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: to the Republican law makers and had a phone call 49 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: right with the Republican members of the General Assembly. Not 50 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: over property taxes that are totally out of control, Not 51 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: over skyrocketing utility bills or one of the nation's highest 52 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: gas taxes, or the IDC with hundreds of millions of 53 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: dollars of conflicts of interest, our money that was doled 54 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: out to very high profile people with no real return 55 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: on investment whatsoever to speak of. No, no, no, he didn't 56 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: have a phone call with them about any of that 57 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: or fixing that or making the government better for you. 58 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: What he did have a phone call with them about 59 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: is redistricting. 60 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, he called him Friday morning. You know who 61 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: was on the call that we know of. 62 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: Because they're not reporting everybody that was on the call, 63 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: but the President of the Senate, Rod Bray, he participated. 64 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 2: Uh huh, yeah, he was there. 65 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: Now, those guys don't want any Rod bra and Todd Houston. 66 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,559 Speaker 1: Rod Bray is the leader of the Senate for the Republicans, 67 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: Todd Houston the Speaker of the House. They don't want 68 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: any part of this. They've made that abundantly clear, Like 69 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: if you just go by body language and what brief 70 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: interviews they have done. Remember Rod Bray did that interview 71 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: with Jim Schella and Jim Sell a long time former 72 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: journalists for WISH TV. I think he writes a column 73 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: for IBJ, now works on Robert Van's podcast. I think 74 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 1: the leaders in Legends podcasts and is he kept giving 75 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: the answer. We have heard the ask that was answer 76 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: about redistricting. 77 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: We have heard the ask. We heard it. 78 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: Well, you know, let let's try this. Let's try this 79 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: in real time. I let go Rob. Can you please 80 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: you ask me Rob? Can you please just be normal today? 81 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: Wow? 82 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: That's a heavy ask, Rob. Can you please just be 83 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: normal today? 84 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: I have heard the ass. Now ask it again? 85 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: Will you please just be normal? 86 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: I've heard the ass. Okay, yeah, yeah, So that's really 87 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: not an answer no, because these guys don't want any party. Yes, 88 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: maybe no, there's nothing in it for them. There's just 89 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: nothing in it for them. And they know it's going 90 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: to cause them headaches. And there's not even guarantee're even 91 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: going to win those two seats. But Trump Trump is 92 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: still trying to pressure Republican lawmakers into further altering the 93 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: maps in whatever favor. 94 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: That. Well, you've got national politics being forced onto Indiana, 95 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: a fight that they didn't ask for. 96 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: They heard the ask, they didn't want it. Sure, So 97 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: what you're telling me is the two visits from JD. 98 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: Vance wasn't enough. 99 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: Well, they're the public polling shows that I mean, I 100 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: think there have now been four public polls done on this, 101 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,679 Speaker 1: the last two done by Republican pollsters or people affiliate 102 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: with Republicans, and overwhelmingly, poll after poll after poll shows 103 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: that people of the state of Indiana are not in 104 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: favor of further rigging the maps in favor of Republicans 105 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: because the Republican leadership, both in this state and in 106 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: Washington has given them no reason to. It's always the 107 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: same stuff. It's spend spence spin, it's grow government, it's 108 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: the crony capitalism stuff, and people are like, why would 109 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: I be fired up about giving you people more of that, 110 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: more of this. Don't mistake are having to vote for 111 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: you because the Democrats are lunatics, which we'll get to 112 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: here in a little bit. Don't mistake that for us 113 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: being on your side on anything. 114 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 3: Okay, So, as of right now, what we have four 115 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 3: Senate Republicans who are publicly supporting redistricting and three that 116 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: are against, and the remaining members are undecided. 117 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: Everyone's hiding under a correct everyone's hiding under their bill. 118 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: Lil Brown is out, She's like, oh, let's do it, 119 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 2: let's do it quick. 120 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: Well, of course she's that senator from Fort Wayne who's 121 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: going at it with Todd Rokeita because she killed that immigration. 122 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: Don't look over here. Let's talk about this over here. 123 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: Okay. So here's what's fascinating is the governor, Mike Brown 124 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: and his lackey, the Lieutenant Governor Micah beck With, who, 125 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: despite running on being a check and balance on the governor, 126 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: doesn't really do any check or balancing. He's just become 127 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 1: a cheerleader for the governor and all the stuff he does. 128 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: They keep pinning this on Massachusetts is their new thing. Well, 129 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: Massachusetts is nine to zero for some bizarro reason. Of 130 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: all the places they could have picked, they picked Massachusetts. 131 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: And this is interesting because they have never said neither 132 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: neither Micah nor Braun, nor any Republican because other Republicans 133 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: have also the rank and file people have chosen Massachusetts. 134 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: There's not a single Republican who has produced what they 135 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: think the Massachusetts map should actually look like because Massachusetts 136 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: has the same I think they chose that because it 137 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: has the same number of reps that we do, and 138 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: so they thought, well, it's it's nine to zero, right, 139 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: so we'll just pick that because it's the same. There's 140 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: not a single Republican, be it the governor Lieutenant governor 141 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: or the General Assembly who has produced what they think 142 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: a fair or right Massachusetts map should actually look like shocking. 143 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: They're just pulling things out of their ass and they're 144 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: not actually doing any work or reading anything. So this 145 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: was great this weekend. My buddy Steve. Now we've talked 146 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: about Steve before. Steve is a former local newspaper right 147 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: covered local governments for years in the state of Indiana. 148 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: Super knowledgeable about state and local stuff. Now we don't 149 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: agree on a lot of things, but he knows. 150 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: He's the numbers guy. 151 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: He knows his stuff, and he was actually the guy 152 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: that helped me. If you remember last year when we 153 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: picked apart Braun's initial property tax plan, Steve and I 154 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: were a couple of cackling hens and we spent hours 155 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: together talking about this, and he knows the stuff. So 156 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: Steve decided in his spare time he was going to 157 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: there's an actual website where you can go and you 158 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: can look at the maps and you can start altering 159 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: these maps around in various states and trying to draw 160 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: You can draw your own congressional districts, which is what 161 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: you know. You've seen these maps pop up that people 162 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: have drawn for what Indiana should look like. So Steve 163 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: spent hours and hours trying to I mean, this guy 164 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: is the fund Zone, right, Like, what'd you do this weekend? 165 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: I tried to redraw the Massachusetts congressional maps, trying to 166 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: draw a jerrymander a Republican district. Right. 167 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: I love that he tried to jerryman jar Now you 168 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: can do that at districtr dot org. 169 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: Yep, what is the website district r dot org. Okay, So, 170 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: and after hours of tinkering with this and the numbers, 171 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: the best he could do is he could produce one 172 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: if you like, if you hyper jerrymandered all the red 173 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: people into one district and you conceded that the other 174 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: eight districts will then become eighty or ninety percent Democrat, 175 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: which make them hyper uncompetitive forever and ever and ever. 176 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: Think Marion County right now, right. The best he could 177 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: do was produced one, not Republican district, but swing district 178 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: which could go either way, could be a toss up. 179 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: And here is what these Einstein's Braun and Micah, because 180 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: they don't read anything, they don't research it. Hell, the 181 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: governor didn't even know the Vice president was coming to 182 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: Indianapolis and he didn't know that black Rock was about 183 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: to buy AES. So this is the uninquisitive group of 184 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: men's and members we're dealing with here. But what these 185 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: Einstein's haven't figured out because they think everything's like Indiana right. Well, 186 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: in Indiana you have pockets of large Democrat areas think 187 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: Lake County, think Amery County, Monroe County, like you have 188 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: these pockets that are overwhelmingly Democrat. That doesn't exist in 189 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: Massachusetts for the Republicans. They don't have that. Like if 190 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: you look at a map and the way that they 191 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: people have voted in the counties and the way they vote, yes, 192 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: there are quote unquote Republican areas, but they're not hyperdominant 193 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: enough to produce some great Republican district that is being 194 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: denied to them. It doesn't exist. So this straw man 195 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: argument that we should screw people in our state and 196 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: Jerrymander further districts for Republicans because for some reason, Braun 197 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: and Micah desperately want two more Jefferson Shreeves in Congress. 198 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but they desperately want it. You 199 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: can't do that in Massachusetts, but they don't know that 200 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: because they don't read anything. They just talk. 201 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: Now, I saw a lot of people arguing, Oh, yeah, 202 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: I see, you picked a state in the far East. 203 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,599 Speaker 3: Why don't you pick one closer to us, like Illinois 204 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 3: right next door. 205 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: So Steve tried to do this in Illinois, Okay, And 206 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: what he came up with this he said, Look, you 207 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: could probably if you had a Republican you know, legislature, 208 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: Republican governor, you could probably draw illinoid to get it 209 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: to twelve five if you got super creative. Right now, 210 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: Illinois fourteen to three. But again, because of the population 211 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: power of Chicago, because you have to draw these districts 212 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: where the populations basically match each other. You can't just 213 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: make it up as you go along. There are some 214 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: rules to this because of the population power of Chicago. 215 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: It Chicago's going to a huge portion of a lot 216 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: of these districts because you have to make that work. 217 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: So even in the best case scenario with Illinois, probably 218 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: the best you could do is twelve to five. 219 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Steve Seidi even tried to go back using the 220 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: twenty sixteen election results. 221 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: So, Micah, why don't you put Omar on it? Because 222 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: Omar what is he? He's the research guy, right, he's 223 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: the research guy that we pay eighty thousand dollars as taxpayers. Micah, 224 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: put Omar on it and produce your Massachusetts map and 225 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: show us how rigged Massachusetts is, and show us how 226 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: you can get all these Republican seats in Massachusetts. Let's go. 227 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: I'd love to see it. Betty doesn't do it. 228 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: Casey, Yeah, I saw a Delaney representative Delaney on WTHR 229 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 3: this morning, and he was talking about how we're running 230 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: up against a timeline. 231 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: I don't care that's getting crunched. 232 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: They'll do whatever they have to do to make this work, 233 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: all right. So there was a big, big No Kings 234 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: rally over the weekend. Casey, you missed out. You went 235 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: out of town at just the right time. 236 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 5: M h. 237 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: That's that's what it looks like. I was in a 238 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 3: blue city, though. I gotta tell you. 239 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 2: The comparison there. 240 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk about it next. 241 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: It's Kennelly Casey on ninety three WIBC. 242 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: Some rowdy friends had a little get together over the weekend. 243 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: Case you missed it, you were out of town. 244 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: I don't know if I would say I missed it. 245 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: I saw lots of video of it. It's being reported 246 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: that six thousand people attended. 247 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 2: Is that correct? 248 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I wasn't there. Oh okay, that would 249 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: have been what they should have done if they wanted 250 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: people to attend, was have me as the featured speaker. 251 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: I could have been like all Frank Castans. I got 252 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: a lot of problems with you people. Okay, So real quick. 253 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: By the way, you cannot watch the program on YouTube today. 254 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: Kevin has desperately tried to find someone to help. There's 255 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: no one here, so you can stream the show at 256 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: WIBC here. What do you mean, I'm saying like, there's 257 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: no one here. We got like nine engineers on staff. 258 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: But then I looked real today too. Probably what a shame. 259 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you can stream the show today at WIBC. 260 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: I think that streaming is still working. No one's told 261 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 1: us that we've ruined their lives by not being able 262 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: to stream over there. You just won't be able to 263 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: see us SOWC, dot commongst other various places to stream 264 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: the show. So the No Kings protest was over the weekend. 265 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: You were not here. You were in the Greater Baltimore area. 266 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: Did you guys have no kings that you're playing. 267 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: Okay, So there wasn't an official protest where I was, 268 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: but there were people walking up and down the streets in. 269 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: All the regalia. 270 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 3: They had their signs, but there was no official protests. 271 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: So they wanted you to be aware though. 272 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: Okay, so there were a lot of people at the 273 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: one downtown and that that may very very well be 274 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: a proper estimate six thousand people. Here is what I 275 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: said about this, and you know it was interesting. James 276 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: Briggs from Indie Star, friend of the show columnist Indy Star. 277 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: He agreed with this, which is, look, you guys can 278 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: do this all you want. You're not moving any needles. 279 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: You're not. 280 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 5: You can. 281 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: It's an echo chamber. Nobody heard that rally or saw 282 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: that rally and was like, oh man, I got changed 283 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: the way I I vote. I got to do a 284 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: B and C. I mean, look at who the speakers were. 285 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: There's nobody who was. I mean, they had Destiny Wells 286 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: out there at one point, like a three time failed 287 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: candidate who has been resoundingly rejected even inside her own 288 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: party just ran for the party chair and got rejected. 289 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: That's not moving anyone if your goal is just to 290 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: shout into the sky and say, look at us. There's 291 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: a lot of us who hate Trump. Okay, it's fifty 292 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: to fifty country, but there's not enough of you, and 293 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: you're not. I mean, they were all over the map 294 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: to about like what they wanted. There was no consistency 295 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: every person wanted. You know, some of them were redistricting, 296 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: some of them were immigration, some of them were just 297 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: yelling to be yelling. The one lady didn't she in 298 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: supply that were a bunch of terrorists. The senator the 299 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: Trump's a terrorist or what I mean? And you see 300 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: this and you go, No normal person, no person in 301 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: the middle, no undecided person, changed anything over what you 302 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: guys did over the weekend. So congratulations. If indeed the 303 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: numbers six thousand, don't doubt it. There's millions of people 304 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: who don't like Donald Trump and India, even in Indiana, 305 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: I don't doubt that you could produce that many people. 306 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: And they're pissed off. I get it. But you didn't 307 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: do anything other than just entertain yourselves. That's all you did. 308 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: Isn't it something that the legislature's not listening to? JD 309 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: Vance or Donald Trump? On redistricting. People think that they're 310 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: going to listen to them when they're in a frog 311 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: costume or a unicorn outfit or holding a sign casey, 312 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: don't listen to anybody. 313 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: We had of the of the majority party at our rally. 314 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: We had the governor, the lieutenant governor, had three members 315 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: of the House. 316 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: Right, and they didn't listen to those people. 317 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, all we got is ignored and then lied to. 318 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: That's what we got, right, So what do you think 319 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: you guys are going to get with this? It just 320 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: seems like an exercise in we want to feel better 321 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: about ourselves. But some people don't even know what you're 322 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: screaming about. Like, there's no if you said, we're having 323 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: this rally on redistricting, Okay, that's you know, a concrete thing. 324 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: It's specific and that's what we're talking about. But again, 325 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: look at the speakers. It was that notorious pig woman 326 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: from Ball State. It was Desney Wells. Again, there's no 327 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: middle ground of people where you go, Okay, reasonable people 328 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: would hear you and say, all right, I'm gonna listen 329 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: to that, and I'm gonna expand my sort of preconceived 330 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: notions and y'all just look silly and it's not gonna 331 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: change anything. 332 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: Well, and Donald Trump, what did he do? 333 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: He released a meme video and AI video of dumping 334 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 3: dump on Harry's sites. Well, it's like that's his response 335 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 3: to it. Yeah, so it didn't it's not effective. It 336 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: didn't get anything done. 337 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: Well, and what's the takeaway? Now they got the video 338 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: of the woman with the making the signal with the gun, 339 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, that is allegedly targeted the Charlie Kirk people like, 340 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: that's what's getting played, That's what's getting shown. Look, I 341 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: get in the Blue Sky orbit that oh everybody was 342 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: heroes and everybody was awesome. Yeah, okay, but that that's 343 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: not gonna what's getting played in mainstream you know sort 344 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: of social media are that video of that woman and 345 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: and well and that I don't know what you're trying 346 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: to accomplish. 347 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of Nancy Pelosi as well. This 348 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 3: is a no King's protest. Here's a woman who's been 349 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 3: in Congress for thirty seven years and just filed a 350 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: run for reelection. 351 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 2: In twenty six. Yeah, well, so decades she's been in office. 352 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: We'll play some more audio that. We got some audio 353 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: this and Trump talking about et cetera. And we'll get 354 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: into that a little bit later on in the in 355 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: the show. Let's take a break though, because Casey, this 356 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: will this will blow. You've been gone. You've been gone 357 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: so long. I didn't even days well, I mean and 358 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: the weekend. Well, I guess it's been so long since 359 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: we've worked together. 360 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 2: It's true. 361 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 4: How are you? 362 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, but fine, thank you for asking. Still just very 363 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: disappointed in everyone in my government that things really changed. 364 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: So there was this this deal that supodally got cut 365 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, involving as the utility and the City of Indianapolis. 366 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 367 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: Everybody lost their minds over the tower. No, the rates 368 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: are going up, but just not as much as they 369 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: would have. Jesse Brown from the City Conty Council came on. 370 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: Other city councilors were outraged over this, blasting this deal. 371 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: Then like largely radio silence from the hog Set administration, 372 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: numerous media outlets in the city covering this deal, and 373 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: then like Saturday night, there's this press release that comes 374 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: out like, well, this isn't even a rap pairs, It's 375 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: for the City of Indianapolis. And then everybody's just looking 376 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: at each other going, what does that even mean? So will, 377 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: as usual try to make some sense of it, because 378 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: you can't get heads or tails from the hogs and administration. 379 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: What is going on with AEES? 380 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 2: All right? 381 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 3: So city County councilor Josh Bain is going to join 382 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 3: us next On ninety three WIBCGA piracy flew from my 383 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 3: mass my sales was said, wing to wing, I had 384 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: a juke box scratch casey, this could be. 385 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: A newsflash to you. Yeah, So hold on to the 386 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: desk with both PAMs, got it. 387 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: I'm holding The. 388 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: City of Indianapolis is a dumpster fire. 389 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: That's not a news flash at all. 390 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: They can't do anything right, even communicat like, even after 391 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: they've done things, they can't even in a coherent way 392 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: communicate what's going on? Sure, this next story is unbelievable. 393 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: So last week, I think this was on Wednesday, there 394 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: was this big announcement about the deal the City of 395 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: Indianapolis had struck with AEES. Okay, and people are up 396 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: in arms and they're going, what in the world is 397 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: happening here? You've got the governor with this new these 398 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: new appointees to the i U r C, the Indy 399 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: Utility Regulatory Commission with clear instructions not to raise rates. 400 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: Whoever goes on there's gonna have clear instructions. You've got 401 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: the the the consumer advocate saying we're going to fight 402 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: the rate increase and we're going to try to get 403 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: lower rates. 404 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: And then good news. 405 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: The city just comes out and goes, yeah, we made 406 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: this deal to raise raids. Oh. The next day, Jesse Brown, 407 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: who's remember the city County Council, he's Democrat, comes on 408 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: the program, rips on it, talk to other members of 409 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: the council. They're up in arms about it. Yeah, and 410 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: then there's maysicely like radio silence from the city, other 411 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: media outlets. It's like we were the only one covering up. 412 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: People all over the city are covering this. And then 413 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: Saturday night like it it seemed like at nine o'clock. 414 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: I don't maybe we got a time zome, but it 415 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: I think it was Saturday night. They come out with 416 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 1: this press release and are like, oh, yeah, that's just 417 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: for the city and street lights. 418 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: So it's not for residents. 419 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: Well, I have no idea what's going on now. It's 420 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 1: like it's just it's the we don't know what the 421 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: deal actually was. We don't know why they the comms 422 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: team allowed this to sip for days. Let's try to 423 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: make some sense of what's going on if you live 424 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: in the city of Indianapolis. Yes, what the heck is 425 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: going on the city? 426 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: Which I do am, I'm a customers. This is totally you, Okay. 427 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: Josh Baying from the Indianapolis City County Council joins us. 428 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 5: Now, Josh, Hello, Hey morning, Rob, morning, Casey, good morning. 429 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: Okay. So I talked to you after this happened. In 430 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: trying to make some sense of it, I don't want 431 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: to think like, am I over exaggerating the what I 432 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: just described here of how this took place? Like did 433 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: I get anything wrong? This seems like total chaos to 434 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: me and nobody has any idea what in the world 435 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: is actually going on. 436 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 437 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 5: I think at best it supported just ALIAS as a 438 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 5: major political miscalculation, but it's also just a blatant missed 439 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 5: opportunity to advocate from the citizens of Indianapolis. 440 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 4: When I first saw the headline. 441 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 5: Come out that hey, the City of Indianapolis and As 442 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 5: has reached a deal, the first thing I thought about 443 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 5: is like, oh, man, like the city must have negotiated 444 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 5: to not have our rates increased. But like that's the 445 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 5: first thing I thought of. I'm like, wow, this could 446 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 5: be really good. And then I read it and I'm like, oh, Like, 447 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 5: all they're doing is overing the rates that the City 448 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 5: of Indianapolis has to pay for street lights, which we 449 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 5: all know AES isn't going. 450 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 4: To swallow the cost of that. So who ends up 451 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 4: having to pay for it? Rate payers pay for it. 452 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 5: So like anytime you see AEES like is gonna pay 453 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 5: for this or they're taking a cut on. 454 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 4: This, that just means rate payers are going to pay 455 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 4: for it. 456 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: And then they didn't. This is what's amazing to me. 457 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: Clearly there was no communication with you guys. Because Jesse 458 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: Brown came on our show, he was living about it. 459 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: I messaged you you were like, I don't know what's 460 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: going on here. They didn't sell this to you guys 461 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: and go, look here's what we're doing. Here's how why 462 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna be good. Like no communication. It appears from 463 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: the city to multiple members of the city County Council. 464 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll say at least the rank and file didn't 465 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 4: get it. 466 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 5: I don't know if like Democrat council leadership is read 467 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 5: in on it or not. 468 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 4: You know, I'm not. 469 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 5: Really sure how that works, what that relationship is like, 470 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,479 Speaker 5: but I certainly wasn't. And this is, you know, a 471 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 5: week after, you know, the Council passes a unanimous resolution 472 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 5: I was proud to co sponsor with Counselor Heart said 473 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 5: that we oppose any rate increase, And actually we said, 474 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 5: the honorable and noble thing to do would be for 475 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 5: AES just to withdraw the rate case to begin, Like 476 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 5: that's where we should be. 477 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 4: They should just withdraw it. It shouldn't even go to 478 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 4: the IURC. 479 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 5: But the interesting thing is, like this settlement it has 480 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 5: no rate payer advocates as a part of it. So 481 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 5: the IRC still has to approve. 482 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 4: The settlement deal. 483 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 5: But a kind of a good analogy would be it's 484 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 5: like a plea deal. So if you were to imagine 485 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 5: a courtroom scene, the judge is the iur C, you 486 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 5: have the defense, you have the prosecution. Basically with this 487 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 5: is like you have the criminal and the defense attorney 488 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 5: agree to a plea deal present to the judge and 489 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 5: the prosecutor, which in this case would be like rate 490 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 5: payer advocates are just hope here, Like what, you didn't even. 491 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 4: Include us in this, Like you have to include it 492 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 4: for there to be. 493 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 5: A settlement agreement, there has to be more than one 494 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 5: side that agrees to the settlement. 495 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 496 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so and then you know I told you to 497 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: told other people. So you got all these media outlets 498 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: that are covering this. I think reasonably will people see 499 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: these articles and think, hey, our rates are going up, 500 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: and then there's just essentially radio silence from the city 501 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: for multiple days until some bizarre press release Saturday night. 502 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really strange too. And you know, I 503 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 4: think there was even a press release that was put 504 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 4: out like Thursday. 505 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 5: Night or Friday night at like nine pm from the 506 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 5: Department of Public Works talking about this. So I think 507 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 5: there was already such a significant amount of blowback that 508 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 5: the mayor didn't even want to put his name on it. 509 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 5: And you know, it's not my place to speak for 510 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 5: the mayor at all. I think if you were to 511 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 5: ask someone from their administration, they would say. 512 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 4: Well, you know, we really only have standing. 513 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 5: To negotiate the street light aspect, that we really were 514 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 5: only focused on that aspect of it, which is why 515 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 5: I said earlier it's a it's a total political miscalculation. 516 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 4: You know, you didn't even have to do this. 517 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 5: You know, if we're all reading the tea leaves and everything, 518 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 5: we know utilities are not popular at the moment. 519 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 4: Why are you going out. 520 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 5: And it looks like you're siding with the utility, like 521 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 5: that is the public message. But then it's also just 522 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 5: a missed opportunity, like you, as the City of Indianapolis, 523 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 5: as the mayor, have the ability to advocate on our behalf. 524 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 5: So it's a total missed opportunity. The Council's already done that. 525 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 5: The council's taking those steps unanimously, and then it's like. 526 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 4: The mayor's just you know, marching to a beat of 527 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 4: a different drum. 528 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 3: So a spokesperson for INDIDPW said that this is going 529 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: to save millions of dollars for taxpayers. Went on to 530 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: say that the team went to bat on behalf of taxpayers. 531 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 3: So how am I saving money? 532 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: Josh, You're not. 533 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 5: So that's kind of I That's kind of what I 534 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 5: was trying to point out earlier. It's like, so the city, 535 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 5: the government entity of the City of Indianapolis, is going 536 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 5: to save let's say, millions of dollars. 537 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 4: I who's there. 538 00:25:55,359 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 5: Let's concede their language, say millions of dollars. AES has 539 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 5: a statutory ability, a legal ability to earn a set profit. 540 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 5: So in order to make up that loss, who do 541 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 5: you think is gonna pay for it? 542 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 4: Rate payers? 543 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 5: So you like, like the citizens of Indianapolis and the 544 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 5: people within the A Service Tool territory are now having 545 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 5: to pay for it. 546 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 4: So you're just cost shifting from the city of. 547 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 5: Indianapolis, which again taxpayers to rate payers. 548 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 4: It's the same thing. 549 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: Okay, So this comes to the next part of this, Josh, 550 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: which is, let's talk about this. There are all these 551 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: people that are applying to be a part of the 552 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: i u r C board, these open seats. You got 553 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: clear direction from the governor not to raise the rates. 554 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: So how are they gonna square if you're saying that 555 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: as has this? I mean, what a what a rotten thing? 556 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: Think about that, casey. No matter what, they've got a 557 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: built in the what did you call it, Josh, is 558 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: not a profit margin, but it's a it's a built 559 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: in amount of money they're gonna make, Is that right? 560 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? 561 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 5: So, like you know, they're since they're regulated monopoly they're 562 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 5: they're allowed to have roughly a ten percent profit on 563 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 5: everything they do. 564 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: So, so when Braun comes out then and says, so 565 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: this is the other side of this, And I know 566 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: we're getting into into a lot here, Josh Bain from 567 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis City kind of councils our guests, but this 568 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: is a fascinating conversation about utilities. When Braun comes out 569 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: and says to the i u r C, Hey, no 570 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: more rate increases, no more hiking up people's utility bills. 571 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: How are they going to pull that off if these 572 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: utilities are guaranteed a certain amount of money. 573 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, compare and contrasts this with the governor and 574 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 5: Mayor Hawkfet. Governor Bron's out there and he says, we 575 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 5: can't take it anymore, and then hawk Set's out here, like, 576 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 5: let's keep taking it. 577 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 3: You know. 578 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 5: It's such a yin yang, and I guess their outlooks 579 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 5: on it. The important thing that to remember is the 580 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 5: i u RC is an independent judge. You know, they 581 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 5: are appointed by the governor. 582 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 4: They need to take. 583 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 5: All these things into I always say it's almost like 584 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 5: Star Wars, like you need balance in the force, you 585 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 5: need balance between utility like, look, we have to build 586 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 5: new transmission lines, we have to build new substations, like 587 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 5: there's all these things, but our utility is currently being 588 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 5: innovative and entrepreneurial in the ways that they do business 589 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 5: or are they stuck, you know, doing things they did 590 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 5: the same way twenty thirty years ago. You know, has 591 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 5: the pendulum been swung too far towards the utilities and 592 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 5: we need to bring it back into balance. 593 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 4: And I think that's. 594 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 5: Probably what the new era on the IURC could be about, 595 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 5: along with you know. 596 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 4: A bunch of other things. But you know, that's a 597 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 4: really good way. 598 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 5: Of looking at you know, it's all about trying to 599 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 5: find balance between rate payers, utilities and all that. And 600 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 5: again it's you know, I'll just speak personally. I feel 601 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 5: like it's been out of balance for a while. 602 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: So if I am I understanding this correctly. 603 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: AEES previously said that their proposal would lead to a 604 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 3: twenty one dollars a month increase, and now under this 605 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 3: new agreement, residential customers only going to have a ten 606 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 3: dollars monthly increase in twenty twenty seven, so it. 607 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: Would be a decrease in the increase. 608 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like Washington, DC math, right, like whenever 609 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 5: they're talking about cutting the budget, well, we're not really 610 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 5: cutting it. It's just a decrease in the planned increase, 611 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 5: you know, and then you you're stuck, you know, there 612 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 5: with your head spinning, your you know, you're dizzy from 613 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 5: all the spin going on in this and that's exactly. 614 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 4: What this is. 615 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: Okay, Josh, Before I let you go, two things. One, 616 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: what should the governor be looking for in this nominating 617 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: committee in these IURC candidates, because it sounds like the 618 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: IRC is going to just have to be the people 619 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: to put their foot down, clearly, can't count on the 620 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: government to do anything with this. And Two, how much 621 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: pressure is there going to be from the energy industry, 622 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: the energy lobby, because now you've got to clear direct 623 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: it from the governor on these these people who are 624 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: appointed to stand up for the folks. 625 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, let me take the second part of that first. 626 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 5: When we think of the energy industry, it's important to 627 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 5: I remember how big it is. You know, you have utilities, 628 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 5: but then you also have like energy generators. So there's 629 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 5: a lot of people out there saying, hey, we. 630 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 4: Want to put energy on the grid, but. 631 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 5: It takes us, you know, three years to get something 632 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 5: through the MISO Cue. You know, it takes us this 633 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 5: long to get all of our permitting. It takes us 634 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 5: this long to get things through county governments, commissioners, playing directors. 635 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 4: And all that. So the energy industry is a big swat. 636 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 5: There's a lot of different interested parties in that, a 637 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 5: lot of different interveners. 638 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 4: And as far as you know what. 639 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 5: The governor should be looking for of I think he 640 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 5: should be looking for exactly what he said, which is 641 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 5: entrepreneurial people, people who are thinking outside the box. And 642 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 5: then one thing I would also add is probably people 643 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 5: that have a track record of standing up to special interest. 644 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 4: Because you can. 645 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 5: Imagine there's going to be quite a bit of attention 646 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 5: going on over the next few years. It's a very 647 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 5: exciting time, I think, to be a part of energy 648 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 5: in Indiana. It's clearly moving. You know, the governor has 649 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 5: a strong team with that. So when you look at 650 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 5: what could be coming down the pipe when it comes 651 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 5: to small module reactors and all the stuff that we're doing, 652 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 5: when it comes like state siding looking like it's coming 653 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 5: down the pipe, there's a lot of opportunity here for 654 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 5: us to actually take the lead and be basically an 655 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 5: energy exporter. 656 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 4: I think would be the ultimate goal. 657 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: All right, Josh bayin India opposity Cunty Council tell the 658 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: mayor as usual, he's totally ruined everything for everyone and 659 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: his PR team. They whatever he's paying them, they're way overpaid. 660 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 4: Appreciate y'all. 661 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: It is Kenderlly Casey on ninety three WIBC. 662 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,959 Speaker 1: Boy Casey. Yeah, someone should have told me parenting is hard, 663 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: No kidding, It's not for the fan of heart, that's 664 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: for sure. 665 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: What happened? Did something happen? 666 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 4: Well? 667 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: No, I mean it's like, so the daycare was closed 668 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: for the past week. May May went on a cruise. Yeah, 669 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: you know. For me, Livy and I were both sitting 670 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: there at one point going saying the same thing. We 671 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: were like echoing each other. 672 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 3: May May come back right, like she misses her because 673 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: of the hugs and love you miss her for the break. 674 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: I think most people know I have a two year 675 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: old and she's awesome, But the energy this child has 676 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: is unmapped, not in a destructive sense. She's very active 677 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: and so for the past what week, week and a half, 678 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: I had had to go from work sprinting back and 679 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: you know, we had somebody watch her in the morning 680 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: and then I'd get home as fast as I possibly could. 681 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: And this this morning is does it make me a 682 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: bad parent that I woke up and I was like. 683 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 3: Yes, May May's back to here, May May's back. 684 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: That's good. 685 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 3: You sent me a really cute picture of her, and 686 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 3: it looks like she's ready to do some tumbling. 687 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, she did a lot of tumbling. Yeah. The weekend, 688 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: the the playground was the babysitter. The other thing my 689 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: kid experienced over the weekend for the first time was KFC. 690 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And did you now your daughter she's obviously 691 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: a grown woman now, but when she would experience things 692 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: for the first time. 693 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 2: You'd go there until you got burnt out. 694 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's just that over and over and over 695 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,479 Speaker 1: and over again. So yesterday it was like, what are 696 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: we what are we gonna do for lunch? I said, well, 697 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, we got the KFC coupons in the mail, 698 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: so it's to get one of those, you know, meal 699 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: deals or whatever. And I said, I don't know if 700 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: she's ever had KFC, but I know she likes mac 701 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: and cheese and mashed potatoes. Said all right, we're good, Gabrielle, 702 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: I can eat whatever, And so did the mac and cheese. 703 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: Did the mashed potatoes all good? I said, all right, 704 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: now we're gonna try this. Now with the problem with this, 705 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: like with the KFC chicken, you gotta you gotta cut 706 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: it up yourself, right, because there's bones in there. You 707 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: can't be giving that to little kids. So I cut 708 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: up into little pieces, handed it to her. She eats it. Now, 709 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: did your kid do this? Like with Livy, There'll be 710 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: a moment where she eats it, she pauses, she looks around, and. 711 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: Then goes decides if she likes it or not. 712 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then she kept just like standing there, like 713 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: smacking the table and uh yeah. So I was to 714 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: steal a line from the Was a Tiger King. I 715 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: will never financially recover from this. Now she's discovered that. 716 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 3: What you're saying is now we're collecting KFC coupon. Yeah, 717 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: we've switched from Arby's to KFC. 718 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: Well we're both. I will still use the Arby's coupons, 719 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: but I think we're on a KFC kick for all. 720 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: But hopefully in a few months, maybe maybe it'll wear all. 721 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 2: Right, she'll get sick of it and you have to 722 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: move on to a new place. 723 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: Food is really expensive, by the way, even with the coupons. 724 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 2: I've heard that. 725 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: Oh yes, all right, let's take a break when we 726 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: come back. We love a whole bunch of shutdown stuff. 727 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 1: We got you Santos getting commuted or no Kings protest 728 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: so much to get to Casey. 729 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 3: You're listening to Kendel and Casey on ninety three w IBC.