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Speaker 1: Uh, speaking of officials in the state of Indiana, Mister

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Speaker 1: Attorney General Todd Rakeita, please do us the honors of

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Speaker 1: kicking off some legal stuff, legal stuff, prime punishment judges,

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Speaker 1: legal stuff, legal stuff.

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Speaker 2: Bupkiss, nothing nada.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think these officials have in the Nancy

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Speaker 1: Guthrie case.

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Speaker 2: Right now. I don't think they have anything. Nudge.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think so either. There's a part of me,

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Speaker 3: some sort of naive part of my brain that thinks

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Speaker 3: they're playing dumb fifteen days later, however long it's eight

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Speaker 3: been in eighteen days, today's day eighteen. But when I

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Speaker 3: say playing dumb, I mean, you know, not playing their cards.

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Speaker 2: They know more than they're leading on exactly.

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Speaker 3: And I just Okay, there is a part of my

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Speaker 3: brain that thinks that an overwhelming majority of my body thinks, boy,

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Speaker 3: somebody's screwing up somewhere.

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Speaker 1: So the DNA testing of this glove and they didn't

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Speaker 1: find anything, nothing that matches anything that they have got

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Speaker 1: from the house or any potential suspect list. They're going

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Speaker 1: through videos of Walmart to see, you know, who bought

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Speaker 1: the backpack, who bought like those types of gloves and

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Speaker 1: stocking and good, that's great, But we're eighteen days in

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Speaker 1: by now. This poor woman who needs meds, you know,

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Speaker 1: to stay alive. Lord knows if she's still alive.

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Speaker 3: I've been no proof of life.

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Speaker 1: No proof of life, no proof that even if she

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Speaker 1: is alive, she's in the United States.

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Speaker 2: Mexico's not that far away. And I got to be honest.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're right. I really do.

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Speaker 1: I hope that the authorities are keeping things close and

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Speaker 1: not telling us everything. But it looks to me from

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Speaker 1: the outside the sheriff is a moron. And the optics

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Speaker 1: of him going to that basketball game. We talked about this.

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Speaker 2: I get.

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Speaker 1: You can't spend twenty four hours a day working. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that basketball game was a Christmas gift to one of

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Speaker 1: his kids or something. I don't know, but the optics

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Speaker 1: are bad. You can't go and be seen there when

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Speaker 1: you're the face of what is one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: stories in America right now, the search for this missing woman.

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Speaker 1: Has she been kidnapped? Is she you know, a hostage?

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Speaker 1: Is she in Mexico? Oh, by the way, there's a

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Speaker 1: major celebrity involved here. You've got to have better optics

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Speaker 1: than that. And this sheriff. He's got a history of

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Speaker 1: beefing with the Feds. Now, I don't think that's all uncommon,

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Speaker 1: you know, sheriffs and federal agents.

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Speaker 2: It's a jurisdiction thing.

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Speaker 3: They depicted in movies and TV shows all the time.

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Speaker 1: Well, hell, think about in Diehard, you know where the

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Speaker 1: one guy was like not anymore. You know, when the

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Speaker 1: Feds show up, that's how the relationship is. But this

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Speaker 1: is just a mess and we're eighteen days in now.

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Speaker 1: Journalist Megan Kelly, I don't know if this is anything

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Speaker 1: or not. It might just be a weird coincidence, but

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Speaker 1: she found an audio snippet from Savannah Guthrie's book. There

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Speaker 1: was an audio version of Savannah Guthrie's book where she

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Speaker 1: talks about as kids playing the kidnapping game.

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Speaker 4: Savannah's book, which was released in February of twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 4: discussed a game she used to play as a kid

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Speaker 4: with her cousin and it was a kidnapping game involving Nancy.

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Speaker 4: So we pulled the audio that Savannah did of her book.

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Speaker 5: She in it.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna hear her talk about her cousin, Terry, who

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Speaker 4: was she said like an aunt to her growing up.

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Speaker 4: Terry's twenty years older than Savannah, so Terry would be

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Speaker 4: seventy four right now.

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Speaker 2: But listen to this.

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Speaker 5: About once a year, in the summertime, cousin Terry orchestrated

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Speaker 5: a kidnapping of my sister and me. We went down

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Speaker 5: like this. The cousins would visit for a few days

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Speaker 5: at our house in Tucson, and then on the morning

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Speaker 5: they were to leave, Terry would wake us up early,

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Speaker 5: shushing us in the pre dawn darkness. As we made

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Speaker 5: our escape. We would all pile into her rickety station

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Speaker 5: wagon and head north. The sky is streaking with bright

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Speaker 5: oranges and pinks as the sun rose over the colorless

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Speaker 5: desert landscape. Somewhere between Phoenix and Tucson. Terry would make

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Speaker 5: a pit stop and let Annie and Me call home

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Speaker 5: at a pay phone. Mom. Cousin Terry kidnapped us to

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Speaker 5: take us to her house. My mother would feign shock,

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Speaker 5: protest how terribly she would miss us, then assure us

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Speaker 5: she'd drive up to retrieve us in a few days.

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Speaker 2: What do we do with this? Is this anything? I

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Speaker 2: know we've already played that game, But what do we

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Speaker 2: do with it? Isaak?

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Speaker 3: We played again, so I could take a nap.

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Speaker 2: That's what we do with it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we don't make anything off kidnapping reference game and

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Speaker 1: a book that was released a year and a half ago.

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Speaker 2: No, okay, that's fiction.

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Speaker 3: I just that's to me. It's reaching and Megan Kelly's

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Speaker 3: doing her job obviously, and we're replaying it. But I

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Speaker 3: don't think so.

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Speaker 1: So if Ojay the year before the murderers had a

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Speaker 1: book saying I've always thought about, you know, doing this

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Speaker 1: game where I kill a waiter and a wife.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to do.

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Speaker 3: If I did it right, okay, after the.

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Speaker 1: Fact, maybe somebody listened to Meghan's book or read Meghan's

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Speaker 1: book and was inspired.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: Okay, if you're putting that aspect on it, I thought

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Speaker 3: you were. Maybe. I thought the implication was maybe Savannah

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Speaker 3: had something to do with it. But if you're saying

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Speaker 3: that maybe somebody read this book, some lunatic and put

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Speaker 3: words into action, then that that could be plausible, I guess.

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Speaker 3: But they don't have anything, man, that don't The authorities

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Speaker 3: don't have anything, and there is no proof of life

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Speaker 3: that she is even still with us.

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Speaker 1: One more legal stuff note here, It's kind of an

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Speaker 1: update to a story we had earlier. In a ten

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Speaker 1: page ruling, a US district judge in the great state

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Speaker 1: of Illinois has stated that Buffalo Wild Wings can continue

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Speaker 1: to call its popular menu item boneless wings, even though

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Speaker 1: the lawsuit filed says they're chicken nuggets. So we've got

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Speaker 1: a US district judge in Illinois saying, yes, you can

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Speaker 1: call them boneless wings. It's not false advertising. Everybody, please

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Speaker 1: go back to your lives.

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Speaker 3: Somebody got screwed out of their medical insurance payout because

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Speaker 3: this judge was having to rule on BW three's boneless wings.

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Speaker 2: Versus chicken nuggets debate.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

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Speaker 2: Legal staff