1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: So we've got a big update in the Jimmy Kimmel saga. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was announced that Sinclair was going to 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: preempt the airing of Jimmy Kimmel tonight because he's going 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: to be back on ABC. And now some breaking news, 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: Next Star is saying, yeah, they're going to join Sinclair 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 2: and they're going to preempt the programming as well. 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 3: So Next Star had. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: What thirty one stations Sinclair? I'm sorry, Sinclair, thirty one? 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: Next Star has how many. 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: What was it, twenty eight ABC affiliates. They have two 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: hundred TV stations total, but twenty eight affiliates or ABCA. 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: So basically, now there are sixty ish ABC affiliates between 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: Next Star and Sinclair that will not air Jimmy Kimmel's program. 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 3: So the question to you. 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: Because you're the TV expert here, having spent a long 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: time in television, is one Late Night is clearly dying anyway, 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: see Colbert out. The big rumor was Kimmel's going to 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: go to next You know, the numbers are horrible. Why 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: is any of this worth it? I mean, it's not 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: like people are tuning in in droves for these people. 21 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: It's not like you have some ratings Juggernaut, who's like, 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: oh man, this person stepped in it, but we got 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: to have them. 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 3: We'll try to make good. 25 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: Like why are they pursuing this when clearly one you're 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: going to lose some of these people all together because 27 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: they're not airing it. But two, the thing you're you're 28 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: dying on the hill for isn't producing for you. 29 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: Now you're saying, why are they pursuing it? Do you 30 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: mean ABC? Why are they pursued? Like? 31 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: Why is it? 32 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: Right? That's a great question. 33 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: Because Jimmy Kimmel again, I just don't I don't think 34 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: he's he is or it's like, hey, larger than like personality, 35 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: the brand, it's the brand. 36 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: It's helped by brand. I mean, late night television is dying. 37 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: Like it's just people don't need to see something anymore 38 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: because there's very few things. 39 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: Other than real world events where. 40 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: If you miss it, you you know, you're just you're 41 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: totally out of touch with society. Right, sporting events, okay, 42 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, real world things. The you know, funeral over 43 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: the weekend, you know what, everybody all of that stuff. 44 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: You can go back and watch it anytime you want, 45 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: and late night television is just not that. It's not 46 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: that in any shape, form or fashion. And I don't get, 47 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: especially with all these affiliates pulling out, how you're going 48 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: to market that and make that work with sixty people, not. 49 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: You know, how you're gonna make that work long term? 50 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: Well apparently, you know, Jimmy Kimmel had a private meeting 51 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: with Bob Iger from Disney, and it would be interesting 52 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: to see what they came up with. You know, there 53 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: were a lot of stipulations, like Sinclair wanted him to 54 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 2: apologize and wanted him to donate some money to Turning 55 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: Point USA, And clearly that's not going to happen. He's 56 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: gonna mention it tonight in his monologue, but he's not 57 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: going to apologize. So you got to wonder what does 58 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: what did Bob Iger see the benefit of the show 59 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: for bringing him back, Well, the. 60 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: Whole television business, right, I mean, you just like, here's 61 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: a great like I don't I And again, this is 62 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: much more your world than mine. I don't understand the 63 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: television business anymore anyway, not that I was ever some 64 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: sort of you know, expert in it, but I having 65 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: career in radio, I had a cursory knowledge that two 66 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: sort of went along the same path for a while. 67 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: But like, for example, ESPN does this massive investment in 68 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: World Wrestling Entertainment TKO and now all there. They used 69 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: to be called pay per views, now they're called ples. 70 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: I think premium live events which used to be this 71 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: monthly thing are now housed through ESPN and through their application, 72 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: et cetera. Well, they have this first event in Indianapolis 73 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: over the weekend at the at gain Bridgefield House, and 74 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: it's so underwhelming that even ESPN, which is their launch 75 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: of this thing, right tune in this is this new 76 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: thing we're doing. 77 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, it was kind of underwhelming. We're gonna 78 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: give that greatest. 79 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: That's them, the most biased people in the room that 80 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: are marketing that they give it a CE. So what 81 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: is the business model where you're investing in something and 82 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: your debut you launch is so underwhelming you give it 83 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: a C? What is the business model? But so because 84 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: of the streaming side of it with television now, which 85 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: is kind of connected, but it's also totally separate, I 86 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: don't understand the television business model and long term how 87 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: it works for most anybody anyway. 88 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: The putts the person's using television. I mean, it's the 89 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: same thing we have here, right, you can enjoy us 90 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: on our YouTube feed that goes to our radio ratings, 91 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: the broadcast. Right, So I don't know, like you're supposed 92 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 2: to be the TV expert casey, Well, they'd have to. 93 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: They got to fill it with something, right, So they'd 94 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: be better off just choosing some local programming. That's local news, 95 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: and that's why you have these television stations, have a 96 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: four pm news, a five pm news, a six pm news, 97 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: and then they come back at ten o'clock. So just 98 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: rebroadcast that you'd probably get better ratings. 99 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: But so it has to come back to they like 100 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: his politics. ABC is still because the only logical reason 101 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: when you factor in the pedal level, the pain of 102 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: the ass level, which is high, the drama you're getting, 103 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: you're losing almost sixty affiliates. 104 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: The ratings aren't. 105 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: It's not like it's some like I said, juggernaut anyway, 106 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: the only logical conclusion to this is they really like 107 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: what he does, which is mostly vile leftist politics anymore. 108 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: He's not funny he used to be, which is pains me. 109 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: I mean, the Man Show is phenomenal. The crank anchor 110 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: stuff was off the charts good. And yet now Jimmy 111 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: Kimmel is just a rotten, miserable person who doesn't move 112 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: the needle in terms of the ratings enough to justify 113 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: any of this. 114 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: So in a statement, Disney said that the suspension was 115 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: meant to avoid in a tense situation. 116 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: So they weren't even Maddie did it. They just wanted 117 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: it to go away. 118 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: They wanted to calm down for a minute. 119 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: It's almost like, very similar in a sense to what 120 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: Google's trying to do, or appears to be trying to 121 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: do with the data center. You're in Indianapolis. 122 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: Everybody just calmed down. We'll come back and hopefully you'll 123 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: be bored with this topic and you'll have moved on, 124 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: and then Google will end up being successful in what 125 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: they want. 126 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: Anyone, Well, let's talk about that for a second, because 127 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: I think it sometimes. His brain is moving so fast. 128 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: It's just brilliant how all the things come together. Sure, 129 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: or if you missed early in the program, we started 130 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: our show talking about the big win for the people 131 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: of Franklin Township last night, in which Google pulled their 132 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: vote their application from the city County Council meeting to 133 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: put this billion dollar, hundreds of acres data center complex 134 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: in Franklin Township and people who are celebrating, and what 135 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: kind of came to light was they pulled the application, 136 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: not because they're necessarily done, but if it gets voted 137 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: on and they lose, they're done for a year. 138 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: If they pull it pulled. 139 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: It last night, which they did, they essentially have two 140 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: weeks to still sway two more counselors which they need 141 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: to go or if they then back out on their 142 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: own without a vote, they only have to wait three months, 143 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: so they can work for three months. So they're not 144 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: giving in because they're like, hey, we've heard the people 145 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: and we're out of here. They're like, well, it'll be 146 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: strategic to you know. It's like here's a great example. 147 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: My point in all this is there's always some there's 148 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: always some motive with things, right, there's always some And 149 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: by the way to. 150 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: The everybody's got an agenda all the time. Of course, yeah, there. 151 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: Google has more time and money and they can wait 152 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: it out. 153 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: So can I issue a warning to my Google friends. 154 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: By the way, the my friends in Franklin Township dealing 155 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: with the Google people because I have a little experience 156 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: with this. So remember a couple of years ago when 157 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: they built the school, built the road in my neighbor's 158 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: backyards essentially, and it runs right along these fields, which 159 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: is egregious. 160 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: And this was what. 161 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: To to Yeah, two and a half years ago. Now, 162 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: this brownser school system. It didn't affect me at all, 163 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: but people have known for years we're having these this 164 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: road the school wanted to build, which was going to 165 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: be a heavy, heavily trafficked road backing right up to 166 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: these people's backyards. And so I went in their defense 167 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: and tried to help those people because I care about 168 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: my neighbors, and because they were asking for a zoning change. 169 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: They were going to tear these houses down, build around 170 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 1: about and spin these these cars off onto our street. 171 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: They had to go through the town Planning Commission, which 172 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: meant a public hearing, which meant I got to get 173 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: up and speak, and we crushed the school system because 174 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: there's all these things they were not abiding by. 175 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: They need to be a biding buy in order to 176 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: get a zoning change. 177 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: And so what they did, and we pleaded with them, said, look, 178 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: just meet with us, meet with the residents of the street. 179 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: We'll all come to agreement. 180 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some way we can all work together 181 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: and figure out concessions that can be made. Instead of 182 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: doing that, what those rotten little bastards did is they 183 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: figured out, Hey, the only reason rob gets to speak 184 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: is because we're asking for a zoning change. If we 185 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: just give in on the roundabout and don't tear those 186 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: houses down, we'll still get our road because we know 187 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: we can bulldoze. 188 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: Without public comments. 189 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: Without public comment. So they spent the whole month, and 190 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: I think the number I came up with there was 191 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: like eight attorneys that came to the next meeting, and 192 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: their whole thing was, Okay, we'll give in on that 193 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: roundabout and not ask for the zoning change, but then 194 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: he can't object. 195 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 3: And refute all the crap we. 196 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: Throw at these Planning Commission people, and what do you know, 197 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: they got their road. 198 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: It passed. 199 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: There was objection from the people who are paying attention, 200 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: but they still got to do the damage. My point 201 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: with the people in Franklin Township is Google's not giving up. 202 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: They didn't give in because all we've heard you and 203 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: they want I guarantee you they're plotting right now how 204 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to get this thing through. 205 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: So you people need to be hyper vigilant at all 206 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: times because government or these mega corps who are using government, 207 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: they never quit, they never stop. 208 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: Well, right now, they're probably trying to determine what incentives 209 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: they need to offer some I don't know, maybe some 210 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 2: counselors who have less conviction who may flip towards their direction. 211 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: I think. 212 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: I think the other thing that can't be underscore what 213 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: they're also going to do is they're going to try 214 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: to sweeten the concession pot. And they're going to go 215 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: back to the school and they'll go back to the 216 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: city and go well, and this was always the laughable 217 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: thing to me. You're talking about a company that's going 218 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: to build a billion dollar complex. They're going to spend 219 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: one billion dollars to build this thing, and we were 220 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: acting like a million dollars with some big thing that 221 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: they were giving away to various causes or entities or whatever. 222 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: They can do fifty million, and what's it called case 223 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: if you give it away for free or on the cheap, 224 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: what does that make you? You know, if you if you 225 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: if you give it up for cheap or easy. What 226 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: there's a starts with a W rhymes with uh, rhymes 227 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: with bore. 228 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: I'm not saying, oh, I am not saying that's basically, 229 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: don't you give me in trouble. 230 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: I'm a Republican a good standard. They told me before. 231 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: You can say that I've asked a specific saying, well, 232 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: they've told me. You could say that I've had I 233 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: know enough to ask the words if I'm allowed to 234 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: say it. Anyway, My point is they were taking this city, 235 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: and apparently the school system was because they gave. 236 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: They gave it. 237 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: We'll refer to it as a cheap date a very 238 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: good and the answers you should hold you Look, the 239 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: city should never give in until the following things are 240 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: made clear exactly to the public what Google is getting 241 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: incentives wise, and then how long it takes for break 242 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: even much less than paying any sort of property tax, 243 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: you know, benefit to the area. And then what the 244 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: actual water and electrical use is for that complex, and 245 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: how the water provider and the electric provider are going 246 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: to ensure that there is never an rate increase to 247 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: the residents because of the data center there. Until all 248 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: that's settled, we shouldn't even be willing to have any 249 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: further conversation. 250 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: Two things about that. One, there was an NDA, a 251 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: non disclosure agreement that was signed, so they're not going 252 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: to come out with that information. And do they even 253 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: know about the water and electricity? 254 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 3: Well they should they even know if they can't even 255 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 3: lie about it. 256 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: Well, all right, So there was an interesting survey about Trump. 257 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: Yes, this was a presidential survey. 258 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: Let's take a break. I just want to make sure 259 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: I've got this right. 260 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: There's a survey about Trump, and there's something inside the survey. 261 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more interesting than the actual numbers, and we've 262 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: got to talk about that. Coming up. It's ninety three WIBC. 263 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 3: Okay, So tell me all about. 264 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: This pole involving Trump, and then the thing about the 265 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: pole that's more interesting than the pole itself. 266 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: Sure, First we have to discuss the methodology. This survey 267 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: was done between September seventeenth through the twentieth. The sample 268 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: size was eleven hundred US adults, so they've got a 269 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: margin of error plus minus three percentage points. The breakdown 270 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: thirty percent Republicans, twenty nine percent Democrats, thirty two percent Independence, 271 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: and then nine percent non voters. And if I look 272 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: to see who did the survey, it was American Research Group, Inc. 273 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: And they do a national monthly survey. So do you 274 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: want to talk about the findings or the weird thing 275 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: about the survey? 276 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 3: Both? Let's do both. Give me the findings first. 277 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: Okay, here are the findings. Presidential job approval. Thirty seven 278 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: percent of Americans approve of the way Donald Trump is 279 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: handling his job as president. Fifty eight percent disapprove, five 280 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 2: percent are undecided. All right, one more time, thirty seven 281 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: percent of Americans approve, fifty eight percent disapproved. 282 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: That's Trump's actual just job approval, job approval right, how 283 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: he's handling the job of president. 284 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: And the thirty seven percent is the lowest that it's 285 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: been since well, the lowest ever pretty much. He was 286 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: at a high mark in March where he was at 287 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: forty five percent. Now he's down to thirty seven percent. 288 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So I was going to say, we've kind of 289 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: seen in most polls Trump coming in somewhere between forty 290 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: and forty five percent, so we kind of said, well, 291 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: if you take that as the barometer, you just put 292 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: it in the middle. He's probably about forty two now. 293 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: It's been a few weeks since we've talked about one 294 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: of these polls. I don't think Trump has certainly done 295 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: anything to elevate himself. This seems a little low, although 296 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: it's not like completely an outlier to where you're like, 297 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: this is so outside the means mainstream. 298 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's why it's important to look at 299 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: the party breakdown the methodology, because obviously, if you've got oh, 300 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: seventy percent are Democrats, well clearly it's gonna trend low. 301 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: But this was split pretty even, thirty twenty nine, thirty 302 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: two of the party breakdown, what was it again? It 303 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: was the party breakdown was thirty percent Republicans, twenty nine Democrats, 304 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: and thirty two independent. 305 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: All right, so at least on paper, that's that's pretty good. 306 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: So again, like I said, Trump is probably hovering around 307 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: forty percent at this point, give or take. But what's 308 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: fascinating to me about Trump's approval rating is what's he 309 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: going to do to raise it? Because he already had 310 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: his big shot, which is the Big Bullcrap Bill, which, 311 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: while it's certainly in the legalized vote buying that took 312 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: place in their helped certain sections of the populace most people, 313 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: because the Republicans were throwing it together so fastened on 314 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: the fly, didn't explain it all to people one what's 315 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: actually in the bill to how it helps, and what 316 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: people kind of know is, hey, a bunch of benefits 317 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: did get slashed, at least on paper. And obviously then 318 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: the media spends hey, it's tax breaks for the wealthy. 319 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: And when your. 320 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: Big thing is unpopular with the public, I don't know 321 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: how you elevate yourself when you spent so much capital 322 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: and did so. 323 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: Much heavy lifting to get that thing across the finish line. 324 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the economic outlook, and they're saying 325 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: the next twelve months, only fourteen percent expect that the 326 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: national economy will get better, eighteen percent expected to stay 327 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: the same, and sixty one percent expect it to be worse. 328 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: So there's some negativity there with the economy. 329 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: Well, in the mood is as big a factor. 330 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: It's just like your life, right, Your perception of something 331 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: is every bit is important, if not more than the 332 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: reality which you're experiencing and the perception for the public. 333 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: And don't underestimate the weight that the tariffs have played 334 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: in all of this, because people notice now things are 335 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: getting more expensive, and Trump gave it away that he 336 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: can't put it on Biden anywhere because now let's just 337 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: say tariffs, right, it was Biden, Biden, Biden, Biden Biden. Well, 338 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: now you're in charge, buddy, and you did this mega thing. 339 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: And companies are coming out saying, hey, remember we did 340 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: the thing on Walmart about things that were going to 341 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: be more expensive and food prices and all of these 342 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: things that people, industries are directly or companies are directly 343 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: blaming on the tariffs. So now Trump can't deflect on 344 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: Biden anymore. And that's the biggest thing for people is 345 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: not being able to afford living. 346 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 2: Right, there's not a scapegoat and talking about affording you know, living. 347 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 2: Only seventeen percent say that the economy is excellent, very good, 348 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: or good. Seventy nine percent rated is bad, very bad, 349 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: or terrible. But the interesting thing about this entire survey, 350 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: that's the number portion of it. But I wanted to 351 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: take note of this. The survey said the survey has 352 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: lost subscribers due to concerns over publishing unfavorable results. Okay, 353 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 2: say that again, the survey has lost subscribers due to 354 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 2: concerns over publishing unfavorable results. 355 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: Okay, when you say subscribers, do you mean people who 356 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: are subscribing to the survey like they're getting the survey 357 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: or people who are participating in the survey. 358 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: Our National Monthly Survey on Presidential Performance and the Economy 359 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 2: has lost subscribers over concerns that any unfavorable results may 360 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: upset the current administration. So that's people doing the survey 361 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: taking it, taking the survey, they're afraid if they come 362 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 2: in and say, now he's not doing a good job, 363 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: that somewhere they're on a list and that information is 364 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: going to get back to the Trump ad illustration. 365 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: Fascinating because that was sort of the thing for years. 366 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: It's switched now. 367 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: That was the thing for years with Trump, where they 368 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 1: were like, how does he always overperform the surveys and 369 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: the answer seemed to be there's a lot of people, 370 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: at least early on with Trump, were petrified to say 371 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: what they thought because they thought it would get out 372 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: and they didn't want to be embarrassed or shamed by 373 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: saying they were voting for Trump. And now what you're 374 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: saying is it's flipped where people are just simply not 375 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: participating because they don't want to be on the record 376 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: as opposing Trump. 377 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 2: Results may upset the current administration. 378 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 3: That's who that's big scary, right. 379 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: Well, you know we've come, we've we've touched on this 380 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: several times a day as in the past week or so. 381 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: The absolutism in people, and anytime you put someone in 382 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: a box where they've got to be an absolute an 383 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: absolute absolutist, or there's somehow of failure or not good enough. 384 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: Take for example, what I went through Sunday. I've spent 385 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: a week and a half telling fifty thousand people a 386 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: day what a great guy Charlie Kirk was, the impact 387 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: he had, all the good things he did, blah blah blah. 388 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: Right Like, every day we were doing something on Charlie Kirk. 389 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: And yet on Sunday when I'm just trying to enjoy 390 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: myself with my daughter and my wife, and I'm watching 391 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: the Colts game, and you know, I'm I'm you know, 392 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: watching the Bears game, and I'm you know, doing some 393 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: stuff online, having some you know, fun tweeting about things 394 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: that are interesting to me. I've got some some woman 395 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: from Hamilton County mom barking at me that you need 396 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: to put the phone down and watch the Charlie Kirk funeral. 397 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: You're not mourning enough. 398 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, lady, I'll do whatever I damn well please. 399 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: And I think I've done more than my fair share 400 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: to tell everybody about Charlie Kirk. 401 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 3: And you know what that made me want to do? 402 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: Not watch any of it, and it sort of it 403 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: starts to change your opinion, like, Okay, if these are 404 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: the hardcore people, that's a horrible representation. Same thing we 405 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: talk about with the vaccine people, where I'm not anti vax, 406 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: but when you're barking at me all the time about 407 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: if I don't give my kid every vaccine or because 408 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: I chose not to get the COVID shot, it makes 409 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: me want to be more or think I should be 410 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: more anti vax because people recoil when you demand the 411 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: absolutism and there's no wiggle room whatsoever. 412 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 2: They go on to say, we need your support to 413 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: continue providing unbiased insights. Please join us in continuing this 414 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 2: monthly survey. Now you could take that as you know what, 415 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: They're just trying to garner more people to take the. 416 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 3: Well, it could be, but I don't think that's that off. 417 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: On that case, I think there's a lot of people 418 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: who are worried about crossing this administration now, and I 419 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: think they've seen some things that have happened, and I 420 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: think in some cases maybe. 421 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: They have good, good reason to. 422 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 1: I mean, when you got the FCC guy coming out 423 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: and saying the things he's saying, and it's like, oh, no, 424 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: thank you, it is. 425 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 2: Kennelly Casey, it's ninety three WYBC. Just see what happened 426 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 2: to Donald Trump speaking at the UN. No, as he 427 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 2: arrived at the un the escalator stopped working the moment 428 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 2: he stepped on it, and then when he got up 429 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: to speak, the teleprompter stopped working the moment he got 430 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: up to the podium. 431 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: I can see him now, it's okay, I'll take the 432 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: stairs tip top shape, all the walking, all the walking. 433 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: That I do, take the stacks he even use or teleprompter, 434 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 2: you know, he goes off script. 435 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: Oh well, this is the thing about Trump is prompter 436 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: Trump actually can. 437 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: Give a pre good speech. 438 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and prompter Trump when he stays disciplined. I know 439 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: it's a huge stretch, right, but prompter Trump, you know what, 440 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: he just stays with the thing. Now, My one thing 441 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: I don't like about Trump with the prompter. He will 442 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: do it on the big speeches, but like he'll be 443 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: going and he'll be reading and like. 444 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: I'm just making stuff up, like the you know, the 445 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 3: Ukraine is our friend. Ukraine, very fabulous weather this time 446 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: of year. I've been there before. It's fabulous. 447 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: But again there are a friend we got, Like he'll 448 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: get and then he'll like detour and I'm sure that 449 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: prompter guy's like stop, starts, where where are you? 450 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 451 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 3: Exactly. 452 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: They should really just bullet point out I'm not even. 453 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: Reading anymore, lost my place. I did that for five minutes. 454 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: Kind of boring. 455 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: Let's geta tad was tad daed? What did he call it? 456 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: He called that the weave right when he weaves in 457 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 2: and out of topics. 458 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and it. 459 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 1: Look with most politicians it's you know, it's they are 460 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: on the prompter to a t. They're they're highly trained 461 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: to read. 462 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 2: And you're like, do you generally want to misspeak at 463 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 2: the UN? 464 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: Well, you know you guys, the UN it's let me 465 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: take a stab at it, like what it would sound 466 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: like the UN. 467 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 3: It's it's it's stood up for humanity for generations. Although 468 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 3: you guys blew it in a rag, right, I told you, 469 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 3: not even close. That's the Dame had those nuclear weapons. 470 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: Not even close. I can't believe you felled for COmON Palell. 471 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 2: Imagine the person being the controller of the teleprompter. You 472 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 2: would be like, give me out here. Oh my gosh. Okay, 473 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: let's talk about this story. Many Americans feel economically stuck, 474 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 2: unable to buy homes, switch jobs, or relocate. Some contributing factors, 475 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 2: they say, are the high borrowing costs, fewer job openings, 476 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 2: political and economic uncertainty, and also high housing prices. Is 477 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: of course, you had the federal reserve rate cut, but 478 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: that was just a little baby one, so it really 479 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: had limited impact. 480 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: Right. 481 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: Uh okay, So again, what did the what did the thing, 482 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: What did the survey actually say? 483 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 3: What was the kind of the detail the gist of it? 484 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: Many Americans can't buy homes, get jobs, or move in 485 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: this stuck economy. 486 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 3: You have no hope, sorry, Kevin, no hope whatsoever. 487 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: You know one of the you know, we kind of 488 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: got into this before, but one of the great I 489 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: think it does go to why maybe Trump is doing 490 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: so poorly? 491 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 3: And some of the. 492 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: Some of the polling that we've talked about is not 493 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: that like there's dire conditions on the ground. There's just 494 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: not any optimism, like there's no here's where this thing 495 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: is ending. Right, So let's go back to when the 496 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: financial collapse happened in two thousand and eight, two thousand 497 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: and nine, people looking at this going oh my gosh, 498 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: what's happening. You sort of kind of believed, Hey, they'll 499 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: bail this thing out to the point and it'll be 500 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: a new frontier and things won't be the same anyone, 501 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: but we'll get out of this eventually. Sure, you kind 502 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: of believed in the aftermath of nine to eleven, Hey, 503 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: this is catastrophic to the economy and things are going 504 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: to take a hit, but we're America. We'll rebuild, we'll 505 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: do what needs to be done, We'll get through this. 506 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: You just don't have any optimism of how things are 507 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: going to get better when it comes to the affordability 508 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: of living, and that's the thing that is out of control. 509 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: There's no condition on the ground right now where you 510 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: say chaos that's causing the that should be causing the inflation. 511 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: It's all actions of the government and the government is 512 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: showing no signs of doing anything that's going to pull 513 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: the reins in on the things that are causing this stuff. 514 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 3: So people are just like, how does this get better? 515 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 2: Where do we go from here? Hiring has slowed a lot. 516 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: Just eighty eight thousand jobs have been added in the 517 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 2: past three months. Job switching, which you would typically do 518 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 2: if you wanted to get higher wages, you just got 519 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: to change your job and ask for more money, that 520 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: has declined, and now job stayers are receiving better raises 521 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: than job switchers, which is a reversal from a normal trend. 522 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: Sixty three percent of Americans say it's a bad time 523 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 2: to find a job. In that coming from the Washington Post. 524 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 3: That's an interesting. 525 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: Job stayers are doing better than jobs switchers switchers, And 526 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: I wonder if that's because, and you know this because 527 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: you were in management for years, it's so expensive to 528 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: bring somebody new in that if you've got somebody who's 529 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: doing the job in a fairly decent level and you 530 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: can't replace them with technology, you almost just say, would 531 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: it be easier to give this person an extra couple bucks, 532 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: just as having to bring somebody else in. 533 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: That makes total sense. 534 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. See that's what you need to do, Kevin. 535 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: You need to mark your backside into Matt Hibblin's office 536 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: when we get done here today and say you're up against. 537 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 3: The wall, buddy, You're up against the wall. No job, 538 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 3: no no chance. Anybody can do this job like me. 539 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 3: Two extra dollars. 540 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: So this article is also saying that spending and life 541 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 2: decisions are on hold, and Rob maybe you can speak 542 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: to this. They say that they're delaying purchases like appliances. 543 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: That's the thing. Though you need a refrigerator, you're gonna 544 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: get a refrigerator. 545 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 3: Well, I somehow I wonder this. 546 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: Too, like the secondary market, because I had a long time. 547 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 3: You know, nothing matters didn't matter of me. Eve anthing 548 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 3: matches in my house. 549 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: But my wife gave me in very emphatic orders that 550 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: whatever fridge I because the people in the house before 551 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: I has. 552 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 3: Had all nice stuff. And I was like, this isn't 553 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 3: gonna last in this house. 554 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: And so I think my wife accepted that when this 555 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: refrigerator went out, the new fridge was not going to 556 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: be as nice, but it didn't need to be. But 557 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: she was very adam me. 558 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 3: She was like it's got a match. 559 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: Do not come back with a black refrigerator or a 560 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: white It has to be stainless steel, right, Like, that 561 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: was the one she's like, and she knew me. She's like, 562 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: do not come back with the with the friends. 563 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 2: They didn't come back with some like nineteen seventies avocado 564 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: green refrigerator. 565 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 3: Well, I got orders and I adhered to that. 566 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 1: But the point is, I wonder for people who are 567 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: living a little closer to the vest, how if the 568 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: secondary market now becomes the place where a lot of 569 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: that stuff happens. 570 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, because people are delaying the big purchases or they 571 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: just can't afford it. The White House still claiming that 572 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: the stagnation is temporary, blaming Biden era conditions. But as 573 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: you mentioned earlier, those days are gone. Yeah, you can't 574 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: just hold on to that forever. At some point they 575 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: have to, you know. But Donald Trump keeps saying tariffs 576 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: are working. We're hotter than ever, right, We're rich, rich rich. 577 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: That's what he said during the Charlie Kirk memorial that 578 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: this country is rich, rich, rich. We're making billions of 579 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: dollars off the tariffs. The question is when does that 580 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: trickle down? To the American people. 581 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, I don't know. All right, let's take 582 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,719 Speaker 3: a break. What are we doing next? What's going on? 583 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: Well, we have to talk about the new astronauts. Oh okay, 584 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: new astronauts, new astronauts. 585 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 3: Exciting. 586 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: It's Kendily Casey. It's ninety three WYBC. 587 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: You don't know what's going on? So what I'm living 588 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 3: my life on autopilot? Is that what you're telling me? 589 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: That's exactly what I'm telling you. It's actually not me 590 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: telling you. It is a new study. Nearly ninety percent 591 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: of your daily life runs on auto pilot. I can 592 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: see that. How much ninety percent? It's actually eighty eight percent, 593 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: So nearly ninety percent, no kidding. About two thirds of 594 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 2: your behaviors are triggered by habit rather than a choice 595 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 2: you just do it. Exercise, this is the one that's 596 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: sup me the most. Exercise is more often triggered just 597 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: by habit, But when you're in the middle of doing it, 598 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: you're making a conscious effort to get to a certain 599 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: point of the exercise, Like Okay, I'm gonna go for 600 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: a walk. That's just based out of habit. But to 601 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: say I'm going to walk a mile today, I want 602 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: to get up to a mile and a half tomorrow's 603 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 2: two miles. Yeah, that's the effort that you put in. 604 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: What would you say are the things that you do 605 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: every day that are on autopilot? What's like the like 606 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: the standard routine for you. I mean, obviously I would 607 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: have seen. 608 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: My morning coffee, coffee in the morning, and you know, 609 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 2: just like how I get ready for bed at night. Yeah, 610 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: you know, brushing your teeth, washing your face, that sort 611 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: of thing. It's just like the same way. It's just 612 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: on repeat. I would think like a lot, a lot, 613 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: like even how I blow dry my hair and apply 614 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: my makeup, and just the way I drive into work 615 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: unless there's a detour on Washington. 616 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 3: You know, it's. 617 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: Fascinating's like my life when I was self employed for 618 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 1: all those years, Like I had no boundaries, and I 619 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: recognize when you spend very early on Like some people 620 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: start businesses, but they're started like in the confines of 621 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: like some sort of structure because they go get loans 622 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: or whatever. They got to make it work, They got 623 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: to set up some sort of you know, corporate environment, 624 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: even small businesses, et cetera. Mine was one hundred percent 625 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: I started in my bedroom. I started with no money 626 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: from anybody, so there was always just like owe anybody 627 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: anything from the get go, and it was always just like, Okay, 628 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: I need this amount to live and I'm doing better 629 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: than that, and I'm good at saving money. So I 630 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: kind of just don't like being accountable to anybody. And 631 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: I realized the complete chaos of my existence from about 632 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: the ages of twenty two really until I ended up here. Now. 633 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: I had the little derailment at the state government for 634 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: two years. It's part why I was so frustrated with 635 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: the state was everything was so so structured, even if 636 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: it didn't make sense, Like structure's fine, but if structure 637 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: for just structure seging, it doesn't make any sense. I 638 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: used to fight with those guys all the time, like 639 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: this is the most inefficient way to run anything. 640 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,479 Speaker 3: Well, this is the way we've always done it. 641 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: Yep, but that doesn't make any sense, Like I don't 642 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: need you must be here my favorite thing. 643 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: It's true story. So I think the hours. 644 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: Were eight to four thirty and they gave you thirty 645 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: minutes for lunch. And my job when I was the 646 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: Pharmacy Board director because the agency had didn't want me 647 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: and was sort of thrust upon him by higher ups. 648 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 3: They were trying to get. 649 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: Me at everything, and so like they were monitoring like 650 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: the lunch to make sure it was like it was 651 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: like thirty two minutes they were gonna it was pretty micro. 652 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 3: Oh, it was a hell of an environment to work in. 653 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: Case surprised it didn't go better, Right, But my point 654 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: in all this was I used to tell those guys. 655 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 3: I was like, this is the. 656 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: Most poorly run operation in the whole world because people 657 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: have no flexibility to actually do the jobs. 658 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 3: Like when I was working, I would work full bore 659 00:32:58,760 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: for three or. 660 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,239 Speaker 1: Four hours, like all right, I'm coming back to this 661 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: in you know, two or three hours, right, and I 662 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: would be obviously very productive running my business, et cetera. 663 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: But when you have these structures that don't fit around 664 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: the people's talents or the way they operate, the best. 665 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 3: Get you get failure. 666 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: So all of this to being said, I've always done 667 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: horrible in the structured environment, but now i have a 668 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: superstructured environment because I have a little tyrant to look 669 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: after every single day and my schedule evolves around around hers. 670 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, One of the things that they say most 671 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 2: people do just on autopilot, is check their phone. Is 672 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: there a certain time of day, you know. 673 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 3: All day? 674 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, as soon as we get off the air. Well, 675 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: it's not even waiting until we get off the air. 676 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 2: Many times while we're on the air, many times in 677 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: mid conversation, you'll look down at your phone. Yeah, but 678 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: they say they're not ignoring you. People just do that automatically. 679 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: There are certain things with your phone, like brushing your 680 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 2: teeth is another one. Driving is another one. But checking 681 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 2: your phone and also on the list something that people 682 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: just do it don't even know you're doing it, and 683 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 2: you're doing it. 684 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: Do do do brush your teeth, dude, do It's a 685 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,959 Speaker 1: little simple song, singalongsy brush your teeth. 686 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 2: It's your brush your teeth song. Shoot dude. 687 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 3: Anyway, Sorry, you gotta know I was gonna let you 688 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 3: keep going. I was gonna let you sing. Live sitters 689 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 3: around the singalong. 690 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 2: Thanks Rob, Thank you, Kevin, thank you for listening today. 691 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 2: This has been Kendally Casey on ninety three w ib 692 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 2: C