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Speaker 1: Live from Vall Heartbland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday I was discussing banking and how President Trump was

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Speaker 2: discussing dealing with banks.

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Speaker 3: Who pushed conservatives out.

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Speaker 2: Well, as the story has grown, we get this from

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Speaker 2: Charles Gasparino writing over at the New York Past Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: that's me, by the way, Tony kats today, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Good to be with You find everything at Tony Katz

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Speaker 2: dot com. I once had Gasparino on the show once

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Speaker 2: and I was like that was enough for me. I

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Speaker 2: just thought as a guest, egotistical and condescending, as somebody

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Speaker 2: who can talk about economic things, He's certainly shown himself

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Speaker 2: to have at least opinions. This story is that people

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Speaker 2: have let the New York Post know that both JP.

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Speaker 3: Morgan Chase or JP Morgan, I should say, and.

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Speaker 2: Bag of America de begged President Trump for his role

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Speaker 2: in the January sixth Capitol Hill melee. That's how they

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Speaker 2: describe it. What was his role go peacefully and protest?

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Speaker 3: No no, no, no no no.

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Speaker 2: There was no role played by President Trump in that

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Speaker 2: regard because he did not go in Now I have

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Speaker 2: argued that there are things I would have liked to

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Speaker 2: have seen President Trump do faster, with more speed. I

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Speaker 2: don't care if he was mad, then Vice President Pencer not.

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Speaker 2: If the vice president needs to be protected, send in

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Speaker 2: whoever you have to send in to protect him.

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Speaker 3: Don't get it twisted.

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Speaker 2: This is the fault of Nancy Pelosi, based on her

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Speaker 2: own words, she did not have the security apparatus in

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Speaker 2: place one thousand percent. I put it on the speaker

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Speaker 2: in terms of security, I put it on the Capitol

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Speaker 2: police who invited people into the Capitol. I put it

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Speaker 2: on those who engaged in actual violence. Never once have

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Speaker 2: I stated that Donald Trump engaged in a riot or

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Speaker 2: engaged in incitement. That never happened.

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Speaker 3: Never.

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Speaker 2: But these banks said, no, you gotta go. The story

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Speaker 2: here is that they got pressure. Who pressured them people

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Speaker 2: at the banks tell them the New York Post that

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Speaker 2: Biden's banking cops at the Office of the Controller of

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Speaker 2: the Currency, the FDIC and the Federal Reserve, they are

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Speaker 2: the ones who engaged in the pressure, and they pressured

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Speaker 2: all sorts of people to do all sorts of things.

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Speaker 2: We talk about the authoritarian ways of the political left.

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Speaker 2: You notice They're always calling Trump an authoritarian. Everything about

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Speaker 2: Trump is authoritarian. Everything about Trump he's trying to be

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Speaker 2: a dictator.

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Speaker 3: He's trying to do this. He's trying to do that.

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Speaker 2: The concept if I have it right, and the psychologists

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Speaker 2: will tell me if I've got it wrong. This is

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Speaker 2: the concept of projection. We know what we're doing, but

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Speaker 2: we'll say this is what somebody else is doing.

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Speaker 3: We will say this is what others are doing.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: They want to call Trump a dictator, so.

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Speaker 2: They say things like this, But let me tell you something.

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Speaker 5: Don't leave them out on the ledge by themselves.

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Speaker 3: They need to.

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Speaker 5: Know that you, the American people, stand with them because

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Speaker 5: they are standing for you.

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Speaker 3: There's so many people.

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Speaker 5: That they will never meet, but they understand the importance

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Speaker 5: of making sure that they have a voice when it

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Speaker 5: comes to their government. They understand the importance of standing

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Speaker 5: for what democracy is and making sure that it does

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Speaker 5: not fall by the wayside. They understand that we have

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Speaker 5: a timUL Hitler in the White House right now, the

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Speaker 5: things that he is going to become the dictator of

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Speaker 5: the United States.

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Speaker 2: That's Jasmine Crockett referring to the President as Timu Hitler,

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Speaker 2: right that site where you can buy cheap Chinese goods,

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Speaker 2: which is I'm assuming where they found Jasmine Crockett.

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Speaker 6: What.

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Speaker 2: No, you can't make a joke about Jasmine Crockett being cheap.

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Speaker 3: She can make a joke about Trump being hitler, But

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Speaker 3: what do you know about that. The authoritarians are the

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Speaker 3: ones who said, hey, you can't have this.

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Speaker 2: Guy as a client anymore. No, no, no, we'll make your

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Speaker 2: life very difficult if you have them as a client.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, we will hurt you if you have

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Speaker 2: this guy as a client. And that's exactly what took place,

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Speaker 2: a bit of a if I need to translate it

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Speaker 2: for you, I will.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's a nice business you have.

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Speaker 2: There be a shame if something happened to it.

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Speaker 3: That's the same thing.

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Speaker 2: They are the ones who scream authoritarian, and they are

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Speaker 2: the ones who act in the authoritarian way. It's a

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Speaker 2: worthwhile story because it's a great understanding of exactly how

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Speaker 2: these progressives work, which is going to.

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Speaker 3: Lead into a conversation I haven't already heard it.

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Speaker 2: My conversation with Ed Morrissey of hotair dot com regarding

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Speaker 2: the redistricting he lives in Texas, giving a little insight there.

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Speaker 3: About how weak the argument is.

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Speaker 2: Horrifically weak is the argument that the left is making

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Speaker 2: regarding the redistricting. There's nothing about this that is against

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Speaker 2: the law. It is absolutely it is a political maneuver.

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Speaker 2: It's absolutely acceptable, one thousand percent acceptable.

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Speaker 3: What do they say?

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Speaker 2: This is cheating and this is stealing, and this is rigging.

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Speaker 2: And then you have a whole series of governors who

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Speaker 2: are going out there and saying, well, if Republicans do this,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna do this. This was an Healey of Massachusetts, but.

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Speaker 7: Abbott, Paxton, Trump, they leave states with no choice. I

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Speaker 7: want to make sure that people have access to healthcare.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to see further cuts to medicaid, or

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Speaker 7: to housing, or to veterans, or to poor little kids.

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Speaker 3: Who need to eat.

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Speaker 7: Okay, So that is why it becomes an issue for

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Speaker 7: a governor in New York, and a governor in Illinois,

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Speaker 7: and a governor in Massachusetts, governors all around the country.

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry, you're planning to perhaps move forward on our

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Speaker 7: industry planning.

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Speaker 3: We just did that.

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Speaker 7: We're going to follow the rules. I don't know if

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Speaker 7: the Secretary of State wishes to comment, but we just

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Speaker 7: went through and customary, an ordinary, orderly processed just a

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Speaker 7: few years ago.

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Speaker 2: It's Massachusetts. They have no Republicans in the House none.

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Speaker 2: So if she's going to play the game that Governor

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom is gonna play another governor's Oh, if Texas does.

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Speaker 3: This, we're going to jerry mander our states. Who are you?

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Speaker 3: Who possibly are you threatening here?

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Speaker 2: But since doing the threat is what they were all

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Speaker 2: ordered to do, and they all speak in the same voice,

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Speaker 2: on the same subjects, about the same things, in the

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Speaker 2: same way, and if you go out of that orthodoxy,

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Speaker 2: you are bilified. Just asked Senator John Fetterman of VI

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Speaker 2: is a vi Israel, that she's got to make herself

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Speaker 2: look like the fool and note how wrong it is.

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Speaker 2: Jerry Mandering is so wrong that if you don't stop

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Speaker 2: doing it, we'll do it too. But the reality is

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Speaker 2: they're already doing it. There's nothing new here. They already

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Speaker 2: do it in state after state after state after state.

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Speaker 3: It's already happening.

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Speaker 2: And you could argue, well, Tony's red states, Republican states

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Speaker 2: do this too. Yeah, I'm fully aware, and we want

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Speaker 2: to change things altogether. I'm fine with it. But the

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Speaker 2: argument that somehow this is illegal and this is rigging

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Speaker 2: the system. That's not true. This is political and you

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Speaker 2: may not like the politics, but it happens. You'd be

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Speaker 2: the ones to change that. That is absolutely fine. You're

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Speaker 2: not going to get an argument. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it's so political or maybe it's going to become necessary

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Speaker 2: when Trump starts talking about federalizing DC. So you had

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Speaker 2: this doge employee. Did we ever find out his real name? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Edward Corstein? A teenager. He was known as Big Might.

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Speaker 3: I love to say that on air, right big? Oh?

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Speaker 3: What is the word? I'm looking for? Balls? Okay, I

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Speaker 3: said enough. That was his handle. I guess his avatars,

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Speaker 3: whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 2: He got attacked in DC, violently attacked the picture of him.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize it was him. I guess he was

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Speaker 3: trying to help some woman.

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Speaker 2: He got attacked, bloodied, bloodied from his nose, all the

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Speaker 2: way down his pants, blood everywhere, and Trump writes the

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Speaker 2: most recent victim was beaten mercilessly by local thugs. Perhaps

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Speaker 2: it should have been done a long time ago. Then

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Speaker 2: this incredible young man and so many others will not

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Speaker 2: have to go through the horrors of violent crime. If

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Speaker 2: this continues, I'm going to exert my powers and federalize

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Speaker 2: this city.

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Speaker 3: Make America great again.

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Speaker 2: This actually goes in a line of thinking about states

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Speaker 2: that have progressive run cities. Can we understand this, big

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Speaker 2: cities are our democrats strongholds even in red states, and

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Speaker 2: they're run by progressives who can't actually run a city.

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Speaker 2: You pick the city, The reality is the same New York, Chicago,

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Speaker 2: San Francisco, Los Angeles. Can we discuss Memphis or my

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Speaker 2: beloved Indianapolis, which is chock full of inetness and if

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Speaker 2: it wasn't for the power of this state, things wouldn't

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Speaker 2: happen there.

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Speaker 3: This is happening everywhere, and.

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Speaker 2: You have these conversations where states say, should we be

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Speaker 2: getting involved in what happens in our capital city? Should

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Speaker 2: we be getting involved in what happens in our most

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Speaker 2: major cities, because what happens there does affect the rest

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Speaker 3: There is an effect.

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Speaker 2: There's an effect on tourism, there's an effect on convention business,

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Speaker 2: a whole.

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Speaker 3: Assortment of things. And then people get outraged.

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Speaker 2: You can't be violating the sovereignty of this city. The

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Speaker 2: ideology is destructive. You think DC works DC doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: This doesn't work. This is growing. Now, what's interesting is

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Speaker 2: that New York is reporting that shootings are down in

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Speaker 2: a major, major way. They're reporting is that New York

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Speaker 2: cities have plunged to record.

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Speaker 3: Loaths this year. That's an incredible thing to see.

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Speaker 2: By the way, They've had four hundred and twelve shooting

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Speaker 2: incidents just in twenty twenty five, and that's the lowest,

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Speaker 2: the lowest it's been in years. So are we seeing

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Speaker 2: a change in how these things are done? Less shootings,

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Speaker 2: more violent attacks. I don't know, but we certainly can't

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Speaker 2: say that DC is going swimmingly far from it.

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Speaker 3: I think Trump's going.

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Speaker 2: To do it, But that threat it should bring about

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Speaker 2: this conversation that states have already been having.

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Speaker 3: When cities fail, what is the role of the state, When.

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Speaker 2: Prosecutors, as we see in many of these states refuse

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Speaker 2: to prosecute the crimes, what is the role of the state.

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Speaker 2: Do they have a role to play in ensuring that

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Speaker 2: every citizen of the state is covered, protected, looked after

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Speaker 2: based on the law. Now, DC is not a state,

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Speaker 2: but the same thought process applies. I don't think Trump's.

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Speaker 3: Going to do it.

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Speaker 2: I think he should just to see what could happen.

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Speaker 2: That is the testing ground for Canna get better. Keep

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Speaker 2: it here. This is Tony Kats today. It's the third

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Speaker 2: game this year.

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Speaker 3: Where the WNBA.

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Speaker 2: Has had somebody throwing a sex toy onto the court.

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Speaker 2: This one actually hit Sophie Cunningham. Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, guys,

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Speaker 2: on the YouTube at Tony Katz, on the Twitter x

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Speaker 2: at Tony Katz as well.

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Speaker 3: You should go and be a part of that and

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Speaker 3: check all that out.

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Speaker 2: Wherever you sit on the WNBA is totally up to you.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to like the players. Here's what I

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark is the face of the league and the

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Speaker 2: Reese is a terrible basketball player.

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Speaker 3: I don't care what you call me. She's a bad player.

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Speaker 3: That's it. The Chicago Sky can say anything they want.

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Speaker 3: That's the name of the team. She's not good. The

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Speaker 2: The WNBA now has these opportunities solely and exclusively because

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Speaker 2: the league, resenting this and hating her, went about attacking

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Speaker 3: It was gross, it was disgusting.

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Speaker 3: She's now been out for what eight games, nine games

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Speaker 2: This injury is brought about by a league that has

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Speaker 2: That seems to be true, as you have seen now.

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Speaker 2: This is the third game where someone has thrown a

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Speaker 2: I don't know why the fans are putting up with this.

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Speaker 2: I don't quite get what I'm seeing here. First, if

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Speaker 2: you're doing that, you're a scumbag. The people throwing things

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Speaker 2: the old stadium there, Old Veterans Stadium, scumbag. If you

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Speaker 2: throw things at a player while they're engaged hockey, soccer, baseball, scumbag.

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Speaker 2: You're just the lowest to the low. You're not funny,

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Speaker 2: It's assault. I would say it's as saulid deadly weapon.

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Speaker 2: But man, man, that's gonna lead to its own jokes.

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Speaker 2: That's rough. You should go to jail. And if you

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Speaker 3: Tony, are you advocating for violence?

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Speaker 2: I am stating that people who engage in violence shouldn't

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Speaker 2: You shouldn't be surprised if you end up with a

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Speaker 2: I can't believe this isn't happening already. The WNBA should

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Speaker 2: You've got cameras in the crowd. What only coldplay has

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Speaker 2: people in their homeowners policies. You should be going after

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Speaker 2: everyone there associated with Make it stop, guys. You can

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Speaker 2: mock the WNBA all you like. You're not gonna get

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Speaker 2: Knock yourself out. This is about what it is we're

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Speaker 2: going to accept. Explain to me the society that says

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Speaker 3: Toys on the court where women are playing. Do the math?

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Speaker 2: Make it make sense. It doesn't make sense. It's insane,

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Speaker 2: this is in the fifth grade. Time to act like men.

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Speaker 2: You can mock the league, and you can mock the play.

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Speaker 2: I mock Angel Reese. I'll do it to her faiths.

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Speaker 2: I'll do it in front of her mother. She's bad.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying this.

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Speaker 3: I suck.

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Speaker 2: She might actually be better than me. The problem is

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Speaker 2: bad player. See that, that's easy, that's allowable. You want

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Speaker 2: we're nuts. We're nuts, We're out of our minds. We're

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Speaker 2: long as it's a girl's or women's basketball game. Holy cow,

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Speaker 2: Charge these people. And if you're a fan who sees this,

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: I have come to the belief that I was probably

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Speaker 2: The propaganda is obvious to see, but lots of people

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Speaker 2: propaganda war. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be

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Speaker 2: with you exactly how big is this propaganda war and

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Speaker 2: we see. Josh Hasten joined us right now from JNS

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Speaker 2: News Service JNS dot org.

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Speaker 3: He is also the.

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Speaker 2: Host of JNSTV on YouTube. Just search for jnstv and

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Speaker 2: subscribe to the channel. You spend your time, you live

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Speaker 2: in Israel, you spend some time in the United States.

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Speaker 2: The latest flurry of there's mass starvation in Gaza has

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Speaker 2: not believe those things to be accurate. Where did this

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on, Tony. So this latest push

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Speaker 4: They believe these images to be true. On the other hand,

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Speaker 2: But let us now under the other let's take a

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Speaker 2: For a number They've been doing this since the beginning.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's definitely been going on since the beginning.

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Speaker 4: What happened is they've revved up this campaign. Okay, Hamas

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Speaker 2: YouTube jnstv. Search for it there and subscribe. This release

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Speaker 2: of these videos of Israeli hostages being starved, one digging

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Speaker 2: We've tried this phase thing, We've tried getting these people back.

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Speaker 3: It's enough and them already that's.

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Speaker 2: The way I took the rallies over the weekend that

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Speaker 3: Am I understanding where.

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Speaker 4: So Prime Minister NATANYAHUO on Monday convened the Cabinet in

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Speaker 4: psychological terrorism what they're using against us, and number two

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Speaker 4: the fact that that's Envoy Witkoff came back and said,

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Speaker 4: essentially Hamam does not want to deal, so Israel does

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Speaker 4: not save at this point based on what we know

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Speaker 4: that they can secure that we can secure the release

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Speaker 4: of our hostages through negotiations. Amasa, as I said before,

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Speaker 4: wants to hold them as bargaining chips. So Israel and

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Speaker 4: the next I would say, twenty four to forty eight

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Speaker 4: hours might make crucial decisions in terms of ramping up

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Speaker 4: whatever's going on down in Gaza. And we're talking about

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Speaker 4: trying to maintain full control over Gaza, full Israeli military control,

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Speaker 4: undoing partially at least the terrible mistake which is made

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Speaker 4: in two thousand and five, which is leaving Gaza and

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Speaker 4: turning over Gaza at that point to the House Stading

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Speaker 4: Authority amasenters over. And ever since then two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 4: they've been plotting the October seventh massacre. The terrorist of patient.

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Speaker 4: People have to realize they are patient. They get it

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Speaker 4: that long in order to carry this out. And Israel

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Speaker 4: has had enough. This has been a very, very long war.

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Speaker 4: We've lost over eight hundred soldiers and of course the

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Speaker 4: October sentis massacre, so we could be heading for a

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Speaker 4: ramp up military campaign because that looks like it's the

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Speaker 4: only way. Further, which, by the way, is supported you

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Speaker 4: should know by the majority of Israelis. Obviously, you have

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Speaker 4: the hostage families who have the interests of their families

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Speaker 4: in mind, and of course we understand that you know,

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Speaker 4: they they're entitled to wanting to release their loved ones.

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Speaker 4: But overall, I think it is crystal clear that the

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Speaker 4: only way that this war is going to end is

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Speaker 4: with a complete Israeli victory.

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Speaker 3: Now let's get into two things.

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Speaker 2: First, we talked about two thousand and five, when the

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Speaker 2: Palestinians were basically given a state, given Gaza. It needs

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Speaker 2: to be understood that Israeli soldiers removed Israelis.

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Speaker 3: From their own homes.

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Speaker 2: The decision was made families crying, screaming and yelling, soldiers

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Speaker 2: crying while they took people away.

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Speaker 3: From the houses that they lived in.

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Speaker 2: This was under Ariel Sharon, then Prime Minister, while he

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Speaker 2: was I believe, still with Likud before going to what's

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Speaker 2: known as the Kadema party. And this is seen as

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Speaker 2: the moment that here was Israel again trying to achieve

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Speaker 2: a peace, and here was the true intentions of the

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Speaker 2: Hamas terrasts supported by the Iranian regime in full display.

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Speaker 2: It was never about homeland, It was never about survival

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Speaker 2: or creating a better world. It was solely and exclusively

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Speaker 2: about how can you go about destroying Jews? How can

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Speaker 2: you go about destroying Israel? Now you have France, Portugal,

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Speaker 2: the United Kingdom and Canada all saying they're going to

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Speaker 2: recognize a Palestinian state, as if two thousand and five

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Speaker 2: wasn't the proof of what happens there? What is the

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Speaker 2: take from Israelis on these nations? Are there still will

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Speaker 2: will there still be if recognized at the un normalized relations?

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Speaker 2: Will those relations end? Will embattle? Will embassies close? Will

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Speaker 2: there be divestments from investments? What is it that we

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Speaker 2: can expect from net and Yahoo's government and from Israelis?

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Speaker 4: Well, for now, you've already had ambassadors summoned, you know,

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Speaker 4: in order to present their credentials if you will, and

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Speaker 4: discuss you know, why their countries France for example, are

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Speaker 4: going about this. I mean, let's be clear, this is

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Speaker 4: a victory for Hamas for their October seventh massacre. It's

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Speaker 4: a complete victory for them. It's giving them light to

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Speaker 4: keep ongoing. But this is really just a pr stunt

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Speaker 4: because you're talking about a so called telstin you state it.

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Speaker 4: As you mentioned, essentially, there was a telstony In state

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Speaker 4: in Goza from two thousand and five until now, and

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Speaker 4: as you clearly mentioned, they do not want to stay.

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Speaker 4: That's not the goal. Their goal is a state without

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Speaker 4: the state of it is. You know, they're not interested

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Speaker 4: in the state of Israel together. But it is really

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Speaker 4: a pr stunt. Where would a so called Palestinian state be.

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Speaker 4: You're telling me other countries from around the world can

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Speaker 4: dictate Israeli policy, what Israel is going to do. The

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Speaker 4: main point here is that every time going back to

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Speaker 4: nineteen ninety three, every kind Israel signed a deal for

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Speaker 4: peace and turned over land to the Palistine authority fell

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Speaker 4: into the hands that come outs from to the of

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Speaker 4: the terrorists, and they've been using those areas for a

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Speaker 4: launching pad against the State of Israel, weather Gaza, where

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Speaker 4: there was an increase in rocket attacks, by the way,

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Speaker 4: five hundred percent increase immediately after two thousand and five,

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Speaker 4: or Ina and Samaria in those areas when Israel turned

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Speaker 4: over those areas to the Palestinian authority. You had what

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Speaker 4: was called the Second Asada in the beginning of two thousand,

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Speaker 4: where again Israel came to Washington and tried to make

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Speaker 4: peace via Bill Clinton. Back in two thousands of fiatstra Arafat,

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Speaker 4: when we signed all these agreements, turned over these strategic

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Speaker 4: lands we're talking about biblical heartland of the state of

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Speaker 4: Ramajewish people over to our enemies. They use those areas

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Speaker 4: for terror launching paths. So what France decide, what the

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Speaker 4: UK decides, what all these countries decide. At the end

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Speaker 4: of the day, they're absolutely meaningless. But again it makes

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Speaker 4: a look bad from a PR perspective. These are PR stunts,

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Speaker 4: and sadly these countries are sighting with pure evil and

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Speaker 4: rewarding pure evil instead of siding with the one true

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Speaker 4: democratic country here in the police state of Israel, which

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Speaker 4: has been fighting this evil for really for one hundred years,

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Speaker 4: but recently since the October seventh massacre. So they are

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Speaker 4: on the wrong side of history. And we have friends

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Speaker 4: like in the United States who clearly understand the situation.

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Speaker 4: In the administration in Washington, I think is doing a

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Speaker 4: very very great, great job in order to tell the

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Speaker 4: difference between right or wrong, not fall for this propaganda

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Speaker 4: and stand with their true ally. And as I heard

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Speaker 4: Ambassador Mike Huckabee say just last week, partner Israel the

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Speaker 4: United States, we are partners, he said, the United States

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Speaker 4: has one true partner in the world, and that is Israel.

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Speaker 2: Well, I still have about thirty seconds just to put

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Speaker 2: a bow on this idea of starvation. Is it the

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Speaker 2: Israelis belief that Israel could do more to help.

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Speaker 3: These people get food?

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Speaker 2: Or is this really about the UN and Hamas keeping

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Speaker 2: food from getting to the people.

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Speaker 4: Hamas it's hijacking the trucks which are going in. There's clear,

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Speaker 4: crystal clear evidence showing that at the same time, the

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Speaker 4: UN has left I don't know how many truckloads of

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Speaker 4: goods at the border, not willing to bring them into

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Speaker 4: Gaza and distribute them to the people because they're upset

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Speaker 4: that the United States started using this GHF humanitarian organization.

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Speaker 4: So instead of helping the people in Gaza, the UN

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Speaker 4: has decided to spite the people in Gaza because of

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Speaker 4: Israeli policy. So they're literally just several days ago, your

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Speaker 4: journalists on the border there standing over food and medicine

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Speaker 4: and all sorts of humanitarian aid which was rotting away

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Speaker 4: in the hot Israel fun because the UN decided that

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Speaker 4: it's better to try to win this propaganda war, the

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Speaker 4: pr war against Israel. They'd rather do that than actually

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Speaker 4: help gosins. And that's the reality.

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Speaker 2: Josh Hasten from the Jewish News syndicate JNS dot org

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Speaker 2: find his work there and on YouTube JNSTV Josh an

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Speaker 2: absolute pleasure.

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Speaker 3: More coming up on Tony Katz, the path that I

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Speaker 3: think about.

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Speaker 6: You know, I put down two ray cuts in my

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Speaker 6: December last year, December summary of economic projections for twenty five,

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Speaker 6: I maintained two. In March I maintained too in June.

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Speaker 6: Two still seems reasonable to me for the year. So

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Speaker 6: two more potentially, But now we've got a lot of

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Speaker 6: data to come in. But sitting here today, I could

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Speaker 6: see two ray cuts this year.

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Speaker 2: That is the president of the Minneapolis Fed on CNBC

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Speaker 2: saying two ray cuts, which is just another example of

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Speaker 2: those associated with the Federal Reserve trying to undercut Jerome

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Speaker 2: Powell or put pressure on to say, hey, this has

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Speaker 2: to happen. This moment is here, Tony Katz. Tony Katz, today,

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Speaker 2: I don't think the jobs number issue influences the way

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Speaker 2: everybody else does.

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Speaker 3: I think it was a shock to the system.

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Speaker 2: I think this idea of firing the BLS chief is

587
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Speaker 2: got people in a little bit of a tizzy. I

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Speaker 2: just don't think it's as big of a deal as

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Speaker 2: other people do. But the overall the overarching feeling is

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Speaker 2: ratecut time is here.

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Speaker 3: Get into it.

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Speaker 2: As doctor Mattwell the economist says, also start cleaning up

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Speaker 2: the FED balance sheet. I don't hear that conversation, but

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Speaker 2: certainly the rate cut thing, the pressure's on.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna I think now it's gonna come. I'm Tony

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Speaker 3: Katz