1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Lie from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: He wanted to save young men just like the one 4 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: who took. 5 00:00:49,200 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: His life, the young man. 6 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: That young man on the cross. 7 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 4: Our Savior said, Father, forgive them for they not know 8 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 4: what they do. 9 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 3: That man, that young man. 10 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 5: And then she forgives him. 11 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 6: You want to talk about living your faith, Tony Katz, 12 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 6: Tony Katz today, guys, an absolute pleasure. 13 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 5: To be here with you. 14 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 6: Find everything I do over at Tony Katz dot com. 15 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 6: The live stream happening on YouTube dot com slash Tony Katz. 16 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 6: It was a revival meeting even more than it was 17 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 6: a memorial. And I'm not saying that as a negative. 18 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 6: I'm not saying that I thought it was a bad thing. 19 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 6: I'm not saying that it thought it was improper, because 20 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 6: anything I would think to that is inconsequential. This is 21 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 6: clearly what they wanted, whether that be the Kirk family, 22 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 6: whether that be Turning Point usay, however you want to 23 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 6: describe it, this is what they wanted to show. They 24 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 6: wanted to show they wanted to share in this absolute faith. 25 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 5: But forgiveness is forgiveness is a hard one. 26 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 6: A hard one to take, in a hard one to comprehend, 27 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 6: and she did exactly that. 28 00:02:49,240 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: I forgive him. 29 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 6: She is in tears, she's looking up the heavens, and 30 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 6: that crowd was on their feet, seventy thousand strong, equally 31 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 6: in tears, watching their faith. 32 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 5: He lived out at the right term. I think it is. 33 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 5: I truly believe that it is right there. 34 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 7: I forgive him because it was what Christ did and 35 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 7: is what Charlie would do. The answer to hate is 36 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 7: not hate. The answer we know from the Gospel is 37 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 7: love and always love, love for our enemies, and love 38 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 7: for those who hurt secute us. The world needs Turning 39 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 7: Point USA. It needs a group that will point young 40 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 7: people away from the path of misery and sin. It 41 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 7: needs something that will lead people away from hell in 42 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 7: this world and in the next. That needs young people 43 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 7: pointed in the direction of truth and beauty. And so 44 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 7: I promise you today every part of our work will 45 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 7: become greater. I am tremendously honored to be the new 46 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 7: CEO of Turning Point USA. 47 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 5: I don't know what their succession plan ever was. 48 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 6: I would assume one existed, and I assume that this 49 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 6: could very. 50 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 5: Well have been in but it is clear it's what 51 00:04:59,440 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 5: these people. 52 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 7: Charlie and I were united in purpose. His passion was 53 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 7: my passion, and now his mission. 54 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: Is my mission. 55 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 5: This organization. 56 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 6: Is about to explode, as we have seen tens of thousands. 57 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 6: I think they're over twenty thousand now, maybe more at 58 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 6: this stage of the game, and. 59 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 5: I missed it. 60 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 6: Applications for chapters from high schools and colleges allow me 61 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 6: to engage two thoughts here, one that I put out 62 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 6: on the social media, because of course, if you didn't 63 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 6: say it on social media, it's not real. The left's 64 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 6: hatred of Charlie Kirk is dwarfed by the outpouring you 65 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 6: saw in Glendale, Arizona and across the country, and they 66 00:05:52,560 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 6: know it. It's horrific to engage these conversations politically. Yet 67 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 6: the real world is calling, and one has to ask 68 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 6: what it is that they saw and what is. 69 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 5: It that it means? And the left had to have 70 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 5: seen it. 71 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 6: And you saw some people mention this seventy thousand people 72 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 6: in an arena. It was, hey, you know what, maybe 73 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 6: you should have just let Charlie Kirk have these conversations 74 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 6: on college campuses. 75 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 5: Look what, Look what just happened. Look at this. 76 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 6: So the question before us is is this the turning 77 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 6: point for Turning Point? What does that actually mean? 78 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: Now? 79 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 5: Now full disclosure, I have no relationship with Turning Point. 80 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 5: That's not a bad thing. 81 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 6: It's just I don't I've spoken at one event a 82 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 6: local chapter in my area of Indianapolis. I've met Charlie 83 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 6: Kirk once in my life. 84 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 5: It's not a bad thing. We follow each other in 85 00:06:53,760 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 5: social media. That was it? Is this the turning point 86 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 5: for them? 87 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 6: Is the idea of it went from something that maybe 88 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 6: people on the left could ignore to now something that's going. 89 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 5: To take people on the left out of power. 90 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 6: Exactly how much power do these people now have can 91 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 6: they harness and can they then put out into the 92 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 6: sphere for the midterm elections? I put forth you that 93 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 6: these are the Charlie Kirk elections ten thousand percent. I 94 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 6: can't necessarily say that for twenty eight Time changes things. 95 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 6: But what you just saw yesterday, yesterday, right yesterday, that's 96 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 6: not leaving anybody's soul anytime soon. 97 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 5: That is going to be for nearly every Republican. 98 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 6: A top subject in conversation and maybe even get them 99 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 6: to start speaking to twenty one year. 100 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 5: Olds about elections and man, you better do it in a. 101 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 6: Rational way, otherwise you are gonna get you know what 102 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 6: kicked out of you. 103 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 5: You are if you're not able to approach these people. Uh. 104 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 6: And with honesty and integrity and focus on conservatism, you're 105 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 6: you're not gonna have it now. 106 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 7: Uh? 107 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 6: Was was he talking conservatism or was he talking populism 108 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 6: with Charlie Kirk? Was he talking? You know, Christianity first 109 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 6: and everything else second. Some people are gonna have an 110 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 6: easier time with it than others. But turning point will 111 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 6: bar some insanity that I don't see coming. They will 112 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 6: be able to determine to decide this election. They'll be 113 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 6: able to decide primaries, they will be able to decide 114 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 6: general election. And they are the ones, absolutely the ones 115 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 6: who can keep the Democrats from me taking the House. 116 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 6: Because what you saw yesterday, that's seventy thousand people, what 117 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 6: about the millions of people watching? 118 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 5: That is formidable. And I will tell you. 119 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 6: That if you didn't know Erica Kirk before, in full disclosure, 120 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 6: I didn't. I had never heard Erica Kirk speak. I 121 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 6: will admit to you I did not know that Charlie 122 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 6: Kirk was married. I had not dug into his personal life. 123 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 5: I never had. She's a former Miss Arizona. She's a 124 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 5: businesswoman in her own right, and when she was speaking yesterday. 125 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 7: Charlie perfectly understood God's role for a Christian husband, a 126 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 7: man who leads so that they can serve to all 127 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 7: the men watching around the world. Accept Charlie's challenge and 128 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 7: embrace true manhood. Be strong and courageous for your families. 129 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 7: Love your wives and lead them, love your children and 130 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 7: protect them. 131 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 5: Be the spiritual head. 132 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: Of your home. 133 00:10:51,360 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 7: But please be a leader worth following your wife. 134 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 6: It needs to be understood that there are a tremendous 135 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 6: number of people on the left who are never going 136 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 6: to understand that they're not They're gonna look at that 137 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 6: and they're gonna say Handmaid's Tale and move on without 138 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 6: understanding the level of depth within, the level of understanding 139 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 6: of relationships within. I could do shows multiple plural about 140 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 6: the idea of men and strength and bad days and 141 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 6: bad times, and not pretending to have strength, but rather 142 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 6: even if one has a bad day, a bad mood, 143 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 6: a dang it all, I clean that up moment the 144 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 6: next day, they get up and they get back to work. Oh, 145 00:11:54,040 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 6: there's a real deep conversation in here. But that message, 146 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 6: that message resonates. What does that message say. That message 147 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 6: starts with the fact that men are good. That message 148 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 6: starts with the fact that women actually wants to find 149 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 6: a man, not a beta man, not somebody who is 150 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 6: playing NonStop video games, not somebody who is weak and 151 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 6: pierced in ways that just doesn't work. 152 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 5: Although maybe they're pierced and they're still a man. 153 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 6: Brings a value, understands their place, and sees the family, 154 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 6: their wife and their children as a purpose to their 155 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 6: life so that that wife and those children can have 156 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 6: a better life. That's the first thing she's saying. The 157 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 6: first thing she's saying is not women this and women that. 158 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 6: She's saying, if you find this, if men are this, 159 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 6: look at how much better you are over here. 160 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 5: And I'm telling you, at that. 161 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 6: Moment, the left's minds just explode. And yet vast majorities 162 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 6: of the country who have never heard this before and 163 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 6: have never had this said to them before, are saying, yeah, 164 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 6: So there's this argument that that is what women want. 165 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 6: What rarely gets discussed is that men need to hear that. 166 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 6: That's what we need because men see the concept of 167 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 6: responsibility not as a burden but as a value. It's 168 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 6: like the value of sacrifice, which is again a whole 169 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 6: another series of conversations, and this. 170 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 5: Is what she started with. 171 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 6: She referred to it as Charlie's challenge. I had not 172 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 6: heard it in any way ever referred to as such. 173 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 6: I think we've all discussed it in our own ways, 174 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 6: and you have had this thought and. 175 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 5: Had this. 176 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 6: Conversation from within, But just in that way of expressing it, 177 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 6: that is a connection point that the left does not have, 178 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 6: that the left cannot own. The left want to tell 179 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 6: us that Tim Walls and dung Emahop were masculinity. 180 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 5: All I know is Erica Kirk had a business, and 181 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 5: Erica Kirk did this, and Ericar Kirk. 182 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 6: Did that didn't seem to be intimidating to Charlie Kirk. 183 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 5: It was look at my kick butt wife, which I 184 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 5: can say that about my own wife. Look at my 185 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 5: kick butt wife. 186 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 6: Who's pretty awesome, by the way, I shouldn't say pretty awesome, 187 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 6: fantastic the reason I'm alive. 188 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 5: That's a true story. 189 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 6: But for again another day, Nah, this was something else, 190 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 6: and I know I haven't gotten into Trump's stuff. And yeah, Tucker, sorry, 191 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 6: people are angry with me about it means zero to me. 192 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 5: What God said got said. 193 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 6: And if you want to have a conversation about that, oh, 194 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 6: we'll get that into that in the days ahead. 195 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 5: Today's not the day. 196 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 6: But there are people who never once considered Charlie Kirk 197 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 6: before and will hear Rika Kirk and they will now. 198 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 5: And people who were unaware of how big what it is. 199 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 6: That was happening here was and then they see seventy 200 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 6: thousand people and they see millions watching and they say, oh, 201 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 6: bigger than I thought. 202 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 5: And then there's the American left that. 203 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 6: Has to realize that taking back the House is now 204 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 6: in question, and we have to be the ones who 205 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 6: answer the question, can the Left take back the House 206 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 6: in twenty twenty six? No, this is the Charlie Kirk election. 207 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 6: Now we have to just go in it. I'm Tony Katz, 208 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 6: and this is Tony Katz today