1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:01,000 Speaker 1: Bad news. 2 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:01,599 Speaker 2: What's up? 3 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 3: Well, I guess it's really just news. Yeah, I don't 4 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 3: really think it's bad. The government's still shut down. 5 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 2: Oh right, we're in day twenty, that's right. 6 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 3: It's very easy to remember. October first was the day 7 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 3: it was shut down. So just add whatever day you're at, 8 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 3: and that's what day of the shutdown is. 9 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 10 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 4: So it is now stretched into its third week, currently 11 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 4: the third longest in US history, and if it goes 12 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 4: past November fifth, it will be the longest in US history. 13 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 4: The Senate's going to vote again tonight at five point thirty, 14 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 4: allegedly to try and end it. 15 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 3: Okay, just a programming note real quick. If you've been 16 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: why aren't you on YouTube today? It's not that keV 17 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: was pulling shenanigans all weekend and isn't in no position 18 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: to work in a proper manner. Could be the case, 19 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: he could have done that, but he's working in a 20 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: proper manner. He has all his faculties about him. The 21 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: YouTube is broke today. You said there's some sort of 22 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 3: outage worldwide that's affecting people. 23 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, there were a lot of websites that were down 24 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 4: this morning. So, but Amazon was one of them. 25 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: I don't know how that affects YouTube. 26 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: And in fairness to can he followed all proper protocols. 27 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: He alerted the people he needed to be alerted. No 28 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: one's responding to him. I tried to alert people. Apparently 29 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: that didn't get anywhere. 30 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: Well, that makes Kevin feel better. They're ignoring you too. 31 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it is only ten on a Monday. 32 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 3: Why would we expect any of the you know, engineering 33 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 3: people to be here. 34 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: But anyway, maybe. 35 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: They got up to Shenanigan. It's over the weekend. 36 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,919 Speaker 3: You can you can live stream still w IBC dot com. 37 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 3: I check that that is working. So if you know 38 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: a loved one who is in this state of despair, 39 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: they want to get in that check tell them nothing 40 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: to no, no reason to panic. You could still hear 41 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 3: this award winning program over at w ib S. 42 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: This is US problem, not a U problem. 43 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: You're You're fine, okay. 44 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: So a shutdown so a couple of things obviously that 45 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: happened while you were gone doing who knows what the 46 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: h The shutdown remains in effect, but the Republicans tried 47 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: to pass the Pentagon Funding Bill, the military funding bill, 48 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: and the Democrats voted it down despite having already advanced 49 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: it earlier this year. They said, ah, we're not doing that. 50 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: So they're in full And let me explain to people 51 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: what the Democrats are shutting Can I just just you 52 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: will indulge me for a second, because it gets pretty 53 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: complex people here, Obamacare, here's what the Democrats are shutting 54 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 3: down over. So in Obamacare already was a cossal give 55 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: way to the insurance industry pre COVID. I mean, that's 56 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: what it was, right. It was not reducing anyone's cost. 57 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: It was just a giveaway to the insurance industry. It 58 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: forced people to buy insurance, and then you the taxpayers 59 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: were subsidizing the insurance for people. Well then during COVID, 60 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: because again, whether it was the Republicans or the Democrats, 61 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: the goal of COVID, whether it was in Washington, DC 62 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: or here in Indiana, they wanted you to believe that 63 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: they could shut down society and you wouldn't feel any 64 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: repercussion for it. And so whether it was adding you know, 65 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of people to the Medicaid roles here 66 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 3: in Indiana or what we're about to talk about here, 67 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: that's what they did. They just printed a bunch of 68 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 3: money and then we're all paying for it now, of 69 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: course through inflation. But one of the things they did 70 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: was they created these since i'm gonna call them, super 71 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 3: subsidies for Obamacare, which allowed all these people to get 72 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: on Obamacare and pay extra money for Obamacare. So people thought, oh, 73 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: this is great. Yeah, sure, they shut society down. That's 74 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 3: a minor inconvenience. Look at me, I'm still getting all 75 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: of my stuff. Then, as a part of the Inflation 76 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: Reduction Act. Now imagine this casey. Part of the Inflation 77 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 3: Reduction Act was printing a bunch of money and giving 78 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: it away. 79 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: Kind of seems counterintuitive. 80 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: Right, right, not reducing inflation. 81 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: But those subsidies were then renewed during the Inflation Reduction Act, 82 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: and all that is going away. What we're talking about 83 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: is those super subsidies are set to expire. And the 84 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: Republicans are like, look, because they're they are liars. They've 85 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: campaigned against Obamacare for years. They're not even campaigning against 86 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: getting rid of Obamacare. They'll let that continue. They're just saying, 87 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: we're not doing these super subsidies anymore. And John Fetterman 88 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: was at that News Nation town hall, basically said the 89 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: same thing. He's like, look, all that is going away 90 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: are these that were these things were set to expire 91 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: by design. That's all that's happening. So that's what the 92 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: Democrats are actually holding out on. It's not getting rid 93 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: of Obamacare. The Republicans, they're never getting rid of Obamacare. 94 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 3: They're just simply talking about, Hey, COVID was five and 95 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 3: a half years ago. Probably time to wrap that super 96 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 3: subsidy thing up and get it right back to living 97 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: life as normal. 98 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 99 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: So that's I just wanted to clarify. That's what this is. 100 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: The Democrats shutting the government down is actually all about. 101 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 4: So the Republicans, including President Trump, want to vote on 102 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 4: the budget first and then they say then we're going 103 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 4: to debate on healthcare later. 104 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: So Mike Johnson, he's the Speaker of the House, he 105 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 3: was on Fox. 106 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: News and he was talking about if it's. 107 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: Easier to talk to Hamas that Hakim Jeffries, the Democrat 108 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: minority leader in the House. 109 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 5: Why is it that it seems like it is easier 110 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 5: to talk to Hamas than Hakim j. 111 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 6: It's a great, great question. Hakim Jeffries has the same 112 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 6: problem that Chuck Schumer has right now. They're both New Yorkers. 113 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 6: There is a rise of Marxism in the Democratic Party, 114 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 6: and both of them are going to have challengers in 115 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 6: their next election, so they have to show a fight. 116 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 6: So they picked one on the short gap funding measure, 117 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 6: the CR that Chuck Schumer himself championed just in March, 118 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 6: seven months ago, the same exact thing. The only difference 119 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 6: is they're trying to cover their own backsides politically, and 120 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 6: it is shameful to us when people say, why aren't 121 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 6: you negotiating with them, Peter, I don't have anything to negotiate. 122 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 6: I sent them a totally clean CR. It had zero 123 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 6: Republican policy priorities attached to it. It's merely maintaining the 124 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 6: status quo, keeping the lights on so that we can 125 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 6: continue all of our work and get government appropriations finished up. 126 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 6: They denied that, and they've now voted eleven times to 127 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 6: block paychecks for troops, and what they filed at the counterproposal, 128 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 6: let's never forget, is absolute madness. They want to spend 129 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 6: instead a three and a half new dollars, they want 130 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 6: to give healthcare back to illegal aliens, pay for about 131 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 6: taxpayer dollars to a tune of about two hundred billion dollars. 132 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 6: They want to claw back the money that we set 133 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 6: aside for rural hospitals, and they want to spend on 134 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 6: all sorts of wasteful nonsense around the globe. They want 135 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 6: all that to come back. We can't do it. They 136 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 6: know we're not going to do that, and so it's 137 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 6: not a good faith effort. 138 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: On their part. Okay, if he really wanted to score 139 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 3: points and he doesn't have the hair on his peaches 140 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: to do it, but what he and the Republicans should 141 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 3: be saying is the truth. And the major argument would be, 142 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: we're funding Joe Biden's government. 143 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 4: Well, that's it, he said, we want to They want 144 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 4: to maintain the status quo. 145 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: What they really mean is maintain Biden's spending. 146 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: Levels, and that would be the talking point. But they 147 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: can't do that because they want you to place to 148 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: be stupid and think they actually did all these reforms. 149 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: The major argument, which would be the best argument they 150 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: have to the Democrats, is we're funding the government buy 151 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: in large that you have voted time and time to fund, 152 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 3: which was passed by your president, the president of your party, 153 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 3: Joe Biden. 154 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: But of course they can't do that because then they'd 155 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: be admitted. But they're actually doing yeah, yeah, exactly. 156 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 3: And by the way, this is what these people want 157 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: this redistricting done. They want two more Jefferson Shreeves here 158 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: in Indiana to go in there and fund Biden spending levels. 159 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: That's what these people are all excited about. Nothing's going 160 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: to change out of that, all right. So Hakeem Jeffries, 161 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: who was mentioned there, he was on ABC and he 162 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: actually admitted that it isn't actually about healthcare, that he 163 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: won't vote to open the government even if he gets 164 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: the vote on Obamacare. 165 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 7: Senator Thune is offering there is to have a vote 166 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 7: on a democratic or bipartisan plan to extend those subsidies 167 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 7: so people's premiums don't go up as they will now 168 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 7: dramatically in January. If the Democrats simply agree to vote 169 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 7: to have that temporary funding extension, is that something you 170 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 7: would be willing to agree with. You get your vote 171 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 7: on healthcare, but you also reopen the government. 172 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 8: I think what we've said is that we will not 173 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 8: support a partisan republican spending bill, which is the bill 174 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 8: that they continue to bring before the Senate, and that 175 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 8: emerge from the House if that bill guts the healthcare 176 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 8: of the American people. 177 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: Okay, So again he's saying he will not support Joe 178 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: Biden's government that he supported repeatedly. 179 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: But I want to, keV, can you. 180 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 4: Play Justice's rebranding it as the Republican Absolutely, and he knows, 181 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 4: he knows it's actually a good move on histork. 182 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: He knows the Republicans do not have the guts to 183 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: say what it actually is, which is. 184 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's government and Joe Biden's spending. 185 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: So he knows he can get away with it because 186 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: they're not going to counter keV, can you play, and 187 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: I'll tell you in depositive, just go back to the beginning. 188 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: Play it from the beginning, because the way that the 189 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: this was Carl Carls, the guy's last name for ABC. 190 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: The way he phrased this question is fasting. And I 191 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: want to point this out. 192 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 7: Senator Thune is offering there is to have a vote 193 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 7: on a democratic or bipartisan plan to extend those those 194 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 7: subsidies so people's premiums don't go up as Okay. 195 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: So isn't this this is the most government thing ever. 196 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: So you have a government program that doesn't work, which 197 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 3: was Obamacare had been going gone for ten years. Then 198 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 3: the government needlessly shuts society down and instead of being 199 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: honest with people and say you're gonna feel pain, but hey, 200 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 3: we got to do this for the health of the nation, right, 201 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 3: which they all knew that was bull crap too. It 202 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: was about a massive growth of government. They give all 203 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: of this stuff to people that they never had before, 204 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: never should have had to begin with. And then once 205 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: they say, hey, we're kind of out of money now 206 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 3: and we can't continue this, we gotta have you go 207 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: back to where you were before, to the thing you 208 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: never should have had. 209 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: You know what it is. It's a decrease in the APA, 210 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: that's right. 211 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 3: And they're wording it out, well, people's premiums are gonna skyrocket. No, 212 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 3: people's premiums, well, they're not even gonna be where they 213 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 3: should because they're not paying for it themselves. It'll still 214 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 3: be subsidized by the government, by the taxayers. 215 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: You're paying for it. 216 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 3: When you talk about people paying their premiums are gonna skyrocket. 217 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: You're paying that. 218 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: They act like nobody's paying for it. They're like, it's 219 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: just like the insurance ferry is taking care of it. No, 220 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 3: we are paying for it with printed money, which is 221 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 3: why everything is so expensive. So I totally I had 222 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: to play that again because that's the narrative is. 223 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: People's premiums are going to skyrocket. 224 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: They never should have this benefit to begin with, and 225 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: we are paying for it. 226 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: It's not like nobody's paying for it. 227 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 4: So the premiums aren't going to skyrocket, They're going to 228 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 4: go to a level that they should have been without 229 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 4: assistance or subsidies. 230 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: And the people should be paying. 231 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: Well, they're still going to have assistance and subsidies, it's 232 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 3: not what they had before, but the people are using 233 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: the service should be the ones paying for it, all right, 234 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: real quick, One more piece audio. So Tim Kaine, he 235 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 3: was Hillary Clinton's running mate in twenty sixteen. He's a 236 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 3: senator from Virginia and NBC in a rare, random, confused, 237 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: likely accidental active journalism, is this. 238 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 9: With Kristen Welker? 239 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: Yes, this is Meet the Press right caught him in 240 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: a hypocrisy. We have a hypocrisy alert. 241 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 10: You know, a senator back in twenty nineteen, you made 242 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 10: a similar argument during that shutdown that Republicans are making now. 243 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 10: Republicans at the time were asking for more funding for 244 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 10: a border wall. You said, let's reopen the government first. 245 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 10: I want to play a little bit of what you 246 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 10: had to say. 247 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 11: We first should reopen government. 248 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: Why punish people who are applying for food stamps. 249 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: Because the president is having a temper tantrum? 250 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 11: Open government first. 251 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 4: Oh so, just like what the Republicans want to do. 252 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: They want to open the government and then debate healthcare. 253 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 3: The Republicans are desperate to continue Joe Biden's government. They're 254 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 3: desperate to continue Joe Biden's spending. And the Democrats are 255 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: so extreme they say no, all right, Casey when we 256 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: come back. 257 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I look, I knew. 258 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 3: I guess I knew this, but it wasn't until this 259 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 3: case or this issue popped up. It hit me right 260 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 3: in the face that the government, local government's in the 261 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 3: state of Indiana. You know, they can force you to 262 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 3: go through a process when you want to do stuff 263 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 3: with your land or your property, and they can deny 264 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 3: that and they can force certain things to happen. However, 265 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: when the government wants to buy land, they don't have 266 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: to go through They can just ignore the board and 267 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 3: do whatever they want to do. There's a fascinating case 268 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: out White's town about the government trying to buy land 269 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: and the people out there are in an uproar because 270 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 3: they believe they're going to ignore their own process that 271 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: they make everything everybody else go through. 272 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: So and the best part. 273 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: About all this, the guy leading the charge against the 274 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 3: government is the head of the Border Zoning Appeals and 275 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 3: White sound we'll have. 276 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: Him next to talk about. This case is fascinating. 277 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 9: You're listening to Kettle and Casey on ninety three w IBC. 278 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: Casey, I learned something new the other day. 279 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: Oh that's nice, you're throwing. 280 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: Well, I didn't exactly learn it. I guess I always 281 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: knew it. 282 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: But it's one of those things where confirmed. 283 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you just until it hits you right between the 284 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: eyes You're like, oh, yeah, that really is egregious. And 285 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 3: this is fascinating because in the state of Indiana, local 286 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: governments can do whatever they want to do and ignore 287 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: their own rules that they make everybody else go through. 288 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: That sounds about right. 289 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: And so what I'm talking about is like, if you're 290 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: a developer and you want to build a housing development 291 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 3: on a large you know, farm field, sure that zoned 292 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 3: is what they call agriculture. 293 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: So in order to put houses there. 294 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: They have to get a rezone. 295 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta get a change. 296 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: Right, public hearings, testimony, documentation, you get a chance to 297 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 3: go speak, tell everybody how rotten they are. They're ruining 298 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: your life, taking your farm field. I'm sorry, that's just 299 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: how I feel in Brownsburg. But anyway, anyway, you know, 300 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: there's a process for this, But if it's a government project, 301 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: they don't have. 302 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: To go through any of that. 303 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: No zoning board meeting, no public hearing, no hear from 304 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 4: the people. 305 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: They can do whatever they want to do. Well, and 306 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: you just got to. 307 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: Eat crap and like it sounds about right. 308 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: And there's a fastic case going right now. 309 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 3: It's out in the town of Whitestown, in which the 310 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: town is about to buy a large track of farmland 311 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: agriculture and they're going to put a public say what 312 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 3: they're calling a public safety training facility. 313 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so a place for there's. 314 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: Gonna be a shooting range, gun range, it gonna be 315 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: a place for the firefighters to do their training. All 316 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,359 Speaker 3: fine stuff necessary certainly for any sort of growing community, 317 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 3: except they're potentially not gonna give a body a say. 318 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: They're not going through the process. 319 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: They're not going through the process, and so one guy 320 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: is leading the fight out there, not even saying the 321 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: project's bad, just saying, you gotta. 322 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: Go through the process. 323 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: We want a chance to speak. 324 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta, everybody say. 325 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: And the crazy thing is he's appointed by the town 326 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: government because he's the president of the Board of Zoning Appeals. Okay, 327 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: let's make some sense of it. Ken Kingshill joins us. 328 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: Now he's the president of the White Whitestown Board of 329 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: Zoning Appeal Ken, Hello. 330 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 11: Merian, Rob Casey, thanks for having me on. 331 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 332 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely, So this is interesting and some other news outlets 333 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 3: have covered this story as well, that the residents out 334 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: in Whitestown are upset because the town of Whitestown wants 335 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 3: to build this training facility and that's fun, but they're 336 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 3: at least as of right now, going to ignore the 337 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: processes that they make everybody else go through with the 338 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 3: public input, the public hearings, et cetera. 339 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 11: Yeah, that's correct. You know, I've been I've been monitoring 340 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 11: the the land acquisition process over the last ten months 341 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 11: or so, you know, after council meetings, and I've gotten 342 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 11: up in front of the council, and I've asked them, hey, 343 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 11: will you commit to putting this process through the regular 344 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 11: you know, development review process. Uh, And so far they've 345 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 11: refused to make that commitment. And I'm asking them to 346 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 11: do this on any town owned or town controlled project. 347 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 3: Okay, So let's kind of put some perspective on this 348 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: for people and why this is important. So this is 349 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 3: a this is a farm ground right now, so that 350 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: would be zoned agriculture. And if somebody wanted to build, 351 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: you know, a housing development there, they want to put 352 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: a warehouse there, they've got to get that rezoned, and 353 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: that means they've got to notice the residents in the area. 354 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: There's got to be a public hearing. You get the 355 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: right to go speak, you get to point out things 356 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 3: that could be of concern as rights to you know, 357 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: traffic or safety or whatever. None of this would take 358 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: place in this instance. 359 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 11: Exactly exactly. I mean that whole process is in place 360 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 11: to allow people to get noticed and to have an 361 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 11: opportunity to get heard out of public hearing and whether 362 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 11: it gets approved or not, that you know, that's the process. 363 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 11: And in this case, so far, they're they're not committing 364 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 11: to go through that process, and I don't know why. 365 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 11: I'm just concerned. I want them to honor the process. 366 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 4: Now. 367 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: One of the things that's interesting to me and should 368 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 3: be to our audience, whether you live in Whitestown or 369 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: the greater White Town area or not. And I guess 370 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: it should have dawned on me, but it really it 371 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: didn't until this case popped up and it made the news, 372 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: which is that the government doesn't have to abide by 373 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: its own rules if it's the government. 374 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, that's that's my understand that under Indiana law, there's 375 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 11: a general rule basically saying that that governments do have 376 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 11: to abide by their own process, their own zoning ordinance, 377 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 11: unless they have a local ordinance that states otherwise. So 378 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 11: unless they actually exempt themselves from the process, they must 379 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 11: adhere to it. And in this case, I have reviewed 380 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 11: our zoning ordinance and I can't find any language in 381 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 11: our zoning ordinance that says the town is exempt. 382 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 3: Kim Kingsel is our guest. He is the president of 383 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 3: the Whitestown Board of Zoning Appeals. We're talking about this 384 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 3: controversy out in Whitestown where there's this public training facility 385 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 3: proposed for the police and Fire department, and at least 386 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 3: as of right now, the town is not going to 387 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 3: go through the normal process of allowing residential input on 388 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 3: the project. So talk a little bit about the pushback 389 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 3: out there, because I know there's a lot more people 390 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 3: than just you who are upset about this because, hey, 391 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: you get you're gonna have a shooting range, it's a 392 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 3: large development, and the residents of the area who otherwise 393 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 3: might have a say or being cut out of the 394 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 3: process potentially. 395 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean this this land is really on the 396 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 11: edge of what is considered to be Whitestown jurisdiction. And 397 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 11: so there are a number of residential properties that are 398 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 11: to the south of this land that are actually in 399 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 11: Brownsburg and there, and it's it's kind of a strange area. 400 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 11: There's also a number of properties that are technically Desionsville, 401 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 11: and so, uh, it seems to me like they're they're 402 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 11: they're they're kind of a thing. Those people out I mean, 403 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 11: even even in you know, without the process, Uh, they're 404 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 11: never gonna know that this is happening. It's not even 405 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 11: their government that this is that that is doing it 406 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 11: to them. And then of course there are people in 407 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 11: Whitestown in the area as well. 408 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: And you know, Kin, the other thing that's super interesting 409 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 3: to me is you're an appointed member of this board 410 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: and you're really coming out against your town and the 411 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 3: people that appoint you. 412 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: What's the drama with that? Getting any pushback from the 413 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: from the town council. 414 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 11: Well, they haven't said anything specifically to me. I I 415 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 11: serve a four year term and I'm basically two and 416 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 11: a half years into that term, and so really, uh, 417 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 11: this this You know, I've been appointed by the previous council. 418 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 11: This council can't can't do anything to me unless I 419 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 11: you know, unless unless it's for cause, and I can 420 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 11: I can speak my mind if I want to. No, 421 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 11: I have been a vocal critic of the council. I am. 422 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 11: I am one of the few citizens that that attend 423 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 11: all the council meetings and get up and speak on 424 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 11: a regular basis. 425 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 3: All right, So what's the next step with this? Have 426 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 3: you gotten any inclination from the whites Town government that 427 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 3: they are indeed gonna potentially allow this to go through 428 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: the actual zoning process like everybody else, because I mean, again, 429 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 3: it's a very large development and it's going to have 430 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: a shooting range and things that residents may have, you know, 431 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 3: concerns about, certainly if you live it in a in 432 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 3: a residential area near this facility. Have they given any inclination, 433 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: especially with sort of the media coverage that is that 434 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 3: has come up on this, that they're going to eventually 435 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: allow it to go through the actual process. 436 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 11: Well, I believe the town council president has indicated that 437 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 11: maybe it's too soon to undergo the process, and it 438 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 11: probably is because they're they're they've just recently purchased the 439 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 11: property for about three million dollars. But uh, you know, 440 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 11: any any other developer when they purchase land, they do 441 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 11: it subject to getting the zoning right, just in case 442 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 11: they don't get the zoning that they need. Well, the 443 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 11: town has already purchased this property, and they say, well, 444 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 11: there's been ample opportunity for residents to, uh to make 445 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 11: their feelings known. But only if you're really hawkishly walk 446 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 11: watching the council meeting agendas, would you know anything's going on. 447 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 11: So yeah, I think they're probably coming around and and 448 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 11: will all of this pushback. I would expect that they 449 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 11: will subject it to the process down the road when 450 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 11: the time is right. But if I haven't made a 451 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 11: lot of noise, I doubt they would have done that. 452 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that, man, And again, it's a really 453 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 3: interesting thing to me that it. Again, it should have 454 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 3: totally dawned on me, but until you hear it out loud, 455 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 3: you don't that when it comes to governments, they can 456 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 3: basically do whatever they want and ignore the process they 457 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 3: make everybody else go through because they're the government. 458 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 11: Ken exactly. 459 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Ken man, thanks for the fight out there. 460 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: I love that. Keep us updated on how this's going. 461 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 11: Okay, all right, thanks for having me. 462 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Kettle Casey Show ninety three WIBC. It's so 463 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: weird that like Trump and the Republicans are taking a 464 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: victory lap over the commutation of George Santo's sentence. 465 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, he was released Friday night after serving less 466 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 4: than three months of a seven year prison sentence. 467 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: Okay, so he was scheduled to serve seven years in 468 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: federal prison. George Santos was a publican congressman. He pled 469 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 3: guilty to fraud and identity theft charges now. 470 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,479 Speaker 9: Also embezzling campaign funds. 471 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so this is not exactly the same, but 472 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 3: like the nearest thing that I can give you to 473 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 3: it is we had something in this ballpark right here 474 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 3: in Indianapolis when failed congressional candidate Gabe Whitley, who lost 475 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 3: to a dead woman, pled guilty and went to federal 476 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 3: prison for three months over making up fake donors. And 477 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: you and I were in the courtroom that day when 478 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 3: dishonest Gabe, who it's my understanding is still in the 479 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 3: Marion County jail related to the charges against him for 480 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 3: the stuff with the threats with Abdul. But you and 481 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 3: I were in court that day and the judge, now, 482 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 3: I know, did you guys have to leave or did 483 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 3: you make it all the way to the end almost. 484 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: I mean, it was a long, long hearing when they 485 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 3: sentenced dishonest Gabe that day. By the way, something fitting 486 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: that George Santos is now out and Gabe is apparently 487 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 3: allegedly still still But anyway, the judge kind of laid 488 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 3: out that day about, hey, there is a public trust 489 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: with being a candidate or in this case, George Santos 490 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 3: not only became a kid, it was a candidate. 491 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: He became a congressman. 492 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: And while you know it may be easy to laugh 493 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 3: these charges off in some shape form or fashion. Hey, 494 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 3: we've got to crack down and have some level of 495 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: integrity in our election system and our elections and our 496 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: campaign finance is obviously a big part of our elections. 497 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 3: And that's why Gabe ended up going to prison. And 498 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 3: in the case of George Santos, Gabe's an idiot. 499 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: It was a horrible it was the. 500 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 3: Dumbest crime ever done because there was no clear benefit 501 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 3: for him from this, Like to this day, it's like, you, 502 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 3: why did you do this. 503 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: In the case of George Santos. 504 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: Well because he wanted to be in Congress, but he had. 505 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,239 Speaker 3: Like personal benefit out of this, Like it was a 506 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: gab Whitley times a thousand, right on steroids. And for 507 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 3: Trump to let him go and take some sort of 508 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 3: victory lap and then put out this like just bizarre, 509 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: whether it's a tweet or The Truth or whatever platform 510 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 3: he's on now about this, it's all very strange. 511 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 4: George Santo says that Trump has such an amazing will 512 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 4: for second chances, and you know, he was a Republican, 513 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 4: always voted Republican. So Trump said, have a nice life. 514 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's one thing to so it's not a 515 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 3: pard and it's a commuting of the sentence. He's still 516 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 3: guilty of the crime, so it is different. But it's 517 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 3: one thing to take some drug dealer or you say, hey, 518 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: that guy's been in prison for ten years and by 519 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 3: all accounts, has turned his life around and we think 520 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 3: he'll help humanity into blah blah blah. So we're going 521 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 3: to commute the sentence and let this person out and 522 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 3: give him another shot at life. 523 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: That's one thing. This guy's only been in prison for 524 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: a few months. It was a deliberate and malicious thing 525 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: that he did. 526 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: We light on his resume, totally corrupting the election process 527 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 3: in this country. And to just let him schedodle out 528 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: the door and then take a victory lap on social media, 529 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, man. 530 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: That does not sit well with me. 531 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 4: He painted himself as somebody that he wasn't. Now there 532 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 4: is a question about if this commutation cancels any restitution 533 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 4: because he still owes hundreds of thousands of Donalds. 534 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: That's right, he does, doesn't he And he's claiming. 535 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 4: Now he owes no money, no obligations. But we'll see 536 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 4: if he's going to have to pay at the end 537 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 4: of the day. 538 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: So I'm going to read you that. I mean this. 539 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 3: Tweet or truth or whatever it is now from Trump 540 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 3: where he basically says, I let Santos go because of 541 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 3: Dick Blumenthal. Now he is a Democrat senator from is 542 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 3: it Connecticut? 543 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: Is that right? I think it's Connecticut. 544 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 3: And he famously lied about his service in Vietnam and 545 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 3: got caught lying about a service in Vietnam. Okay, so 546 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 3: here is that. This is very strange. But these are 547 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 3: from the the thumbs of the President Donald Trump. 548 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: George Santos was somewhat of a rogue. You think I 549 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: can read this whole thing by the I all right, 550 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: it's kind of long, but. 551 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 3: There are many rogues throughout our country that aren't forced 552 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 3: to serve seven years in prison. 553 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: I started to think about George when the. 554 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: Subject of Democrat Senator Richard Danang Dick. 555 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: Blumenthal came up again. 556 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 3: As everyone remembers, Danang stated for almost twenty years that 557 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: he was a proud Vietnam veteran, having endeared the worst 558 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 3: of war, watching the wounded it dead as he raced 559 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: up the hills and down the valleys. 560 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: Blood streaming from his face. He was a great hero. 561 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: He would leak to any and all who would listen, 562 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: and then it happened. He was a completed, total fraud. 563 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: He never went to Vietnam. He never saw Vietnam, he 564 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: never saw the battles there or anywhere else. 565 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 3: Let's hold on for a second here, keV, I have 566 00:26:58,800 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 3: good news for you. 567 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: He kept going. 568 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 3: His war hero status and even minimal service to our 569 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 3: military was totally completely made up. This is far worse 570 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 3: than what George Santos did. And at least Santos had 571 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 3: the courage, conviction, and intelligence. 572 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: And this is bad. Do you always vote Republican? 573 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 3: George has been in solitary confinement for long stretches of 574 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 3: time and by all. 575 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: Accounts, has been horribly mistreated. 576 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 3: Therefore, I just signed a commutation releasing George Santos from 577 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: prison immediately. 578 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: Good luck, George, have a great life. 579 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 3: Exclamation point. Okay, that always vote Republican thing. That's set 580 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: so poorly with me. You shouldn't be releasing some person from. 581 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 2: Prison because he's on your team. 582 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. This guy totally abused the election system, was 583 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: malicious and clear and clear sound mind while doing it. 584 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: And you're like, I'm letting him out because he voted 585 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: for the Republicans. 586 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 4: In a letter from prison, Santo's appealed to Trump. He said, Sir, 587 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 4: I appealed to your sense of justice and humanity, and 588 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 4: then of course he highlighted his loyalty to Trump and 589 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 4: Republican ideals. So Trump's letting him go because he's on 590 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 4: the team. 591 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: Okay, so real quick, before we get to hammer, camera's 592 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: about to come in and join us. So he was 593 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 3: on one of the Santos was on one of the 594 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 3: There was Fox, Yeah, Fox News. And here is what 595 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 3: he had to say about getting let go. 596 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 12: Thank you to President Trump for clemency and for having 597 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 12: such an amazing will for second chances. You know, I 598 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 12: feel like it's just as served in a sense of 599 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 12: I've made some poor choices in my life, but nothing 600 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 12: would warrant a insane, arbitrary sentence. 601 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: But on top of. 602 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 12: That, a sentence that no one else would have gotten, 603 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 12: a treatment that no one else would have gotten, forty 604 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 12: one days in isolation in the shoe. And to add 605 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 12: insult to injury, I had two call defendants, one who 606 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 12: got probation, one who is me who had seven years, 607 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 12: and the other one who's still in the same facility 608 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 12: today suffering the same thing. Sam Meely is still sitting 609 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 12: in there, which I still think it's a great injustice. 610 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 12: All first nonviolent, first time offenders with no criminal background 611 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 12: and we're being thrown in this harsh environment with absolutely nothing. 612 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 3: So yeah, buddy, in this finement, you should have You're 613 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 3: a congressman. 614 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: You were elected to Congress based on what you did, 615 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: which means you get to lord over three hundred and 616 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: thirty million people. We are election system is a joke. 617 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 3: We got a secretary of State who votes in a 618 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 3: county different from where he takes a homestead credit. We 619 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: got this guy who's just led allowed to schedoodle out 620 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 3: the door like this is. We're a clown system at 621 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 3: this point, that's ridiculous. Trump let this guy go. The 622 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,479 Speaker 3: messenger's sending is do whatever you want as long as 623 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 3: you vote for our team, We don't care. Trump should 624 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 3: be ashamed of himself. Not only did he let the 625 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 3: guy go, but the fact that he's doing some victory 626 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 3: lap on social media and admitting, well, I did it 627 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 3: because he votes for. 628 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 4: The Republic right, and now so is everybody else. Do 629 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 4: you remember when George Santos was trying to raise money 630 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 4: on cameo. 631 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, what is he going to do now? 632 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 4: Because he's sitting there on the Fox Morning Show in 633 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 4: his blue velvet suit and his nice haircut, and he's yeah, 634 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 4: you know, what's. 635 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: His future going to be? 636 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: All right? Hammer's next. 637 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 9: It's kind of in Casey, it's ninety three WYBC. 638 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: Well, you brought us something, right, you gifts? Oh? 639 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: Nice? I like presidence. 640 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: It's Jason Hammer from the Hammer in Nigel Show. Mine's 641 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 3: going to be like a black Mam, but I can 642 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 3: kill Bill. 643 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: It's going to jump out of the. 644 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 5: Briefcase voodoo doll, the box from the movie seven. 645 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: What's in the bog? 646 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 5: So I heard you talking about Gabe Whitley earlier, right, 647 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 5: and congressional candidates together, right. 648 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: We were all in the courtroom together. 649 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you did some courtroom drawings. 650 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 5: I did, and I was looking to see where those went. 651 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 5: I could not find them to save my life, but 652 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 5: I found them. Nice the court sketch. 653 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 3: Oh, I love it, Casey. Can you describe? I mean, 654 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 3: this is so well done. 655 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: Well. 656 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 3: The one I remember was hot Attorney. There was one 657 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 3: with Dave's hot attorney with an arrow. 658 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then Gabe, it's a it's a shot of 659 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 4: him from the back. 660 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very wide. 661 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 4: He is with some curly hair. And I love how 662 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 4: you have the judge. There's nobody there waiting for judge. 663 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 5: And to make sure you flip over because there are 664 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 5: multiple sketches. 665 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 9: Oh boy, we've got the profile shot. 666 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: I wish we could on the YouTube. 667 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Rob, the profile show right right. How many chins 668 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 4: would you say, are there? Those are some big lips. 669 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 3: It looks like glasses, like a He's like a cross 670 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 3: between Charlie White, the guy used to coach at Notre Dame, 671 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 3: and Bleeding Gums Murphy from The Simpsons. 672 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 4: I love how you put the judge here in this picture. 673 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 4: He actually showed up for this picture. 674 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: And it is the judge's bald, which the judge was bald. 675 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: That's very well. 676 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 9: Done, says Court above his head. 677 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: American flag in the background. 678 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: And the American flag there. 679 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I painted the pictures very well. 680 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 3: And the judge looks like it's like a silhouette heavy 681 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 3: Phil Collins like there you know who. 682 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 5: The judge looked like like in the original Top Gun. 683 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: Yea, like the guy that was. 684 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 5: In charge of the program. 685 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 3: And that judge did such a good job sentence in 686 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 3: Gabe Whitley to federal prison. He's now the chief judge 687 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 3: over the Southern district there. 688 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: He's like the main guy promotion. 689 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 9: He got promoted based on that case. 690 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: There's Gabe sitting in a chair. 691 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 5: Look at the butt fat hanging out of the seat back. 692 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: Of Gabe in chair. 693 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 4: It looks like the chair is about to break under 694 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 4: the weight. I think it was his hotten frustrated attorney. 695 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 4: And then there's the cartoon air bubble lies coming out 696 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 4: of Gabe's mouth. 697 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 2: Remember he's angry judge. 698 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 3: He tried to say something that was the exact opposite 699 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 3: of what he'd agreed to, and the judge started getting 700 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 3: mad at him because they were like, look, you've already 701 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: said you did this stuff like you can't go back 702 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 3: on it now. 703 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: And his attorney was like, shut up and just say 704 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: you did it right. 705 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 5: At one point the judge was like, you'd be wise 706 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 5: to listen to your attorney and look at the attorney's 707 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 5: caboose right there. 708 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 2: Oh, right back of hot attorney. 709 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 4: And then Gabe's sitting and you've got sweat drops coming 710 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 4: from his head. 711 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: As time went on. He was getting more and more wet. 712 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 4: He swept through that blue suit, didn't he. So those 713 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 4: are excellent. 714 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: You were an artist that was a great. 715 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: Those should be in the Hall of Fame, a museum somewhere. 716 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 717 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: Uh, are the Colts good? I think the Colts are good. 718 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: I do. 719 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 5: The questions were about the schedule coming in. It's like, oh, 720 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 5: you haven't will he meet anybody any good? Is Denver 721 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 5: a good win or not? 722 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: Well? 723 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 5: We thought the Chargers were decent hardball coach, team, decent quarterback. 724 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: And boy, the Colts put it on him yesterday. 725 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 3: I love that you went out of the way to 726 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 3: give it the hot attorney cleavage of the drawing. 727 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,959 Speaker 1: I'm just now serious he did. 728 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 5: I spent more time looking at the hot attorney than 729 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 5: I did Gabe. 730 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he didn't deserve her. 731 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 3: No, No, I don't think any of them because I 732 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 3: think she really tried to help him and he just 733 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,959 Speaker 3: made it impossible. And you're right, she's too good looking 734 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 3: to have to deal with him. 735 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 5: Like Gabe would say something in the court and then 736 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 5: it almost be like a record scratch and you could 737 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 5: see hot Attorneys slowly turn her head and just kind 738 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 5: of look at him like and tilt her head like 739 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 5: shut up. 740 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 2: She leaned over to him a few times. 741 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 5: You should probably stop talking, right And I just love 742 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 5: the fact that he is still in the Marion County jail, 743 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 5: I believe. 744 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 3: And it's all for the dumbest stuff. Imagine with this 745 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 3: stupid campaign donor scheme that didn't benefit hit him in 746 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 3: any way, and then threatening him duel on the internet. 747 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 3: He did it all to himself, like he robbed a 748 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 3: bank and got a bunch of money. 749 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: I told I have duel in the back. Now. I 750 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: am not an attorney. 751 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 5: Let's make that perfectly clear, okay, but Abdul should if 752 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 5: he gets a plead deal opportunity, take the jail stuff 753 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 5: off the table and make him get a job so 754 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 5: you continue to garnish his. 755 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: Wages the rest of his life. 756 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 5: What's coming up this afternoon, hey, Hiatus Takeila's coming in. 757 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 5: We're going to have a sampling to see what the 758 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 5: new round of hammer in. 759 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: Nigel Taquila's going to taste it. I suppose they'll be 760 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: here by eleven. They will not. 761 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: Start it, but any leftovers for tomorrow. 762 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: Guy Robert will be here. Man. We got a lot 763 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: going on this afternoon. 764 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 4: All right, thank you hammer you're listening to Kennelly Casey. 765 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 4: It is ninety three WYBC