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Speaker 2: It's fish.

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Speaker 1: The putter out there on the field is Kalin Crimmins

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Speaker 1: and the beat snap from center.

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Speaker 3: Indiana's gonna pick it up.

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Speaker 1: Here's the snap back and pressure comes a little screen

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Speaker 1: out here. Noah Kowski the tight end down to the tunny,

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Speaker 1: down to the town tough. Here's the snaff and this

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Speaker 1: time to hand off the hivy and run up the gun.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna go out of the ten five touch That.

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Speaker 3: Roman himby forty yard run for the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: And there was a hole you could drive a train through.

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Speaker 3: This Indiana football team is feeling like they can eat Illinois.

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Speaker 1: Lunch any moment, anytime they want to. Here they come

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Speaker 1: across the field. Both ball clubs will shake hands. Now

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Speaker 1: in Indiana blows away the fighting Alainai of Illinois tonight

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Speaker 1: to the tune of sixty three to ten.

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Speaker 3: The Voice of the Hoosiers, Don Fisher joining query company

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Speaker 3: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the fan.

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Speaker 1: That's how it sounded. You just heard him on the call,

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Speaker 1: Don Fisher, the Voice of the Hoosiers. As Indiana sets

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Speaker 1: a record for the most points ever against a Top

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Speaker 1: ten team in the history of the Big Ten Conference,

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Speaker 1: and he joined us now to talk about that and more.

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Speaker 1: And Don, I got to be honest with you as

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Speaker 1: I'm watching the game and then we were watching it

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Speaker 1: and then listening to it on my drive, and I

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Speaker 1: thought to myself, you know, Don Fisher, for the first

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Speaker 1: couple of years that he was doing Indiana football probably

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Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of times where he got to

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Speaker 1: say touchdown Indiana. And he got to make up for

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Speaker 1: all in one night, which was nice of them.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: That was an unbelievable performance and that has to be

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Speaker 1: would you agree, as electric a night atmosphere as you

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Speaker 1: have ever seen at Memorial Stadium.

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Speaker 3: It goes down as number one in my book. I've

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Speaker 3: not seen anything like that in a long time. I've

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Speaker 3: time like this either. And the chaos, the noise, the excitement,

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Speaker 3: the flags waving. The atmosphere at Indiana University right now

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Speaker 3: at home football games is absolutely electric. And I hope

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Speaker 3: it continues for the rest of the season and for

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Speaker 3: as long as I keep doing games, because it makes

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Speaker 1: If you know what I made, Don it, here's what's remarkable,

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Speaker 1: and I want you to tell me if you agree

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Speaker 1: or disagree with this. Don Fisher, our guest. The thing

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Speaker 1: about this team, and the same is true of last

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Speaker 1: year with Indiana, and I mean this in the most

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Speaker 1: complimentary ways, but that is that if I had to

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Speaker 1: pinpoint what it is that makes them efficient, that makes

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Speaker 1: them good, I just keep going back to the answer

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Speaker 1: of I don't know. They're just efficient and good. You know,

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Speaker 1: they just they do not make mistakes, and I guess

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Speaker 1: they kind of just put other teams in position where

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Speaker 1: you're waiting for the other team to make a mistake

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Speaker 1: and capitalize on it. I can't pinpoint it if it

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Speaker 1: were up to you to assess what it is, What

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Speaker 1: is it this team and this program is doing that

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Speaker 3: You know, it's it is hard to pinpoint. There's no

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Speaker 3: question because and maybe the one thing that I can

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Speaker 3: be our in our pregame on Saturday with Bucks, who

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Speaker 3: were we had to fill time for about fifteen minutes

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Speaker 3: at the outset of our broadcast because the kickoff was

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Speaker 3: going to take place twenty minutes later than seven thirty, right,

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Speaker 3: and NBC obviously had something to do with that, and

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Speaker 3: time constraints for their first game, but for doing Notre Dame,

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Speaker 3: and they had a problem with weather delay at westlat Viette. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: long story shorts South Bend, but long story short.

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Speaker 2: Bucks were went on the air with me.

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Speaker 3: We talked about this Illinois ball club and Buck said,

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Speaker 3: I've watched a lot of film on Illinois.

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Speaker 2: I've watched them.

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Speaker 3: I've watched them in two or three different versions of

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Speaker 3: Duke game again this morning, he said, And then he said,

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Speaker 3: I can't find one thing that I think Illinois is

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Speaker 3: And here's the thing, Buck is right, what does this

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Speaker 3: what we've seen the last two years, we've seen two

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Speaker 3: teams that beat them last year. They were just better team, right,

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Speaker 3: they had more personnel, they had better talent. And this

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Speaker 3: And I include Illinois in that because they got exposed

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Speaker 1: And I'm watching the game at the beginning, okay, And

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Speaker 1: I was going back to the conversation we had with you,

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Speaker 1: and you're exactly right on this when you talk about,

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Speaker 1: you know, Illinois, Indiana limited Illinois to two rushing yards

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Speaker 1: offensive line is massive. I mean, and they're a good line.

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Speaker 1: And yet Indiana defensively with their whether it be their speed,

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Speaker 1: that to me, that, to me, Don was the biggest

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Speaker 1: area of surprise. Did that surprise you the way Indiana's

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Speaker 3: I would have said to you had I not done

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Speaker 3: the talk show with Kurt Signetti on Thursday of last week,

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Speaker 3: that it would have surprised me. But when Kurt Signetti

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Speaker 3: you going to deal with that? And he says, massive

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean they're fast or quick, and he said it

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Speaker 3: than they are in that sense. Here's the bottom line here, Jake,

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Speaker 3: And it's just a if they're going to get beat,

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Speaker 3: it's going to because the other team has more talent, right,

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Speaker 3: because that's absolutely a false statement. If you say, Indiana,

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Speaker 3: you know these kids don't know what they're doing because

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Speaker 1: You know, at the beginning of the season, Fernando Mendoza

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Speaker 1: certainly the stats and the pedic at cal in coming

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Speaker 1: coaching staff just saying to him, hey, you know, let

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Speaker 2: Well, and here's here's what I know.

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Speaker 3: When players come to Indiana now, if they don't buy

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Speaker 3: in to what the coaches are teaching, they aren't playing.

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Speaker 2: Or they're gone. It's that simple, and.

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Speaker 3: Kurt Signetti and his staff do a phenomenal job of

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Speaker 3: year ago, dealing with forty six or forty seven sacks.

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Speaker 2: I think they said that he was sacked last year. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: He's got a little skitty because he doesn't want to

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Speaker 3: to make progress. Well, the progress that he's made shows

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Speaker 3: you two things. Number One, he is a veteran, he's

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Speaker 3: he's being coached dramatically well. And the thing about Fernando

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Speaker 3: much more improvement he can make. Because if you look

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Speaker 3: at the last two games, he has completed forty of

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Speaker 3: It's just astounding. And obviously he has things that he

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Speaker 3: and I mean think about that. And again, is he

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Speaker 3: a perfect quarterback. No, nobody is. But he's a guy

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Speaker 3: him become better in that week's performance. And that's all

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Speaker 3: it's all about. And that's one of Kurt Signetti's philosophies.

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Speaker 3: Get better every day.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: We hear a lot of coaches say that, but how

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Speaker 3: many of them actually do and we're certainly seeing that

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Speaker 1: I just think, you know, one of the things, and

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Speaker 1: there's a very final with this when it comes to coaching.

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Speaker 1: Right of confidence, and I'll say borishness. I don't mean

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Speaker 1: a couple of times they showed Kurt Signetti on the sidelines,

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Speaker 1: But there just was this epiphany of you know what,

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Speaker 1: everybody can talk about what Indiana's doing against Illinois, but

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Speaker 1: that guy on the sideline with the headset on expected that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he expected him to win like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he disrespected Illinois. I'm saying he expects

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Speaker 1: week out and doesn't even seem content with it. Just

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Speaker 1: all business, which I love, right, I mean, it's all business.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly correct.

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Speaker 3: There is nothing but the business at Haym with Kurt Signetti,

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Speaker 3: and there's a standard and he talks about that when

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Speaker 6: Yes, so last night, if you were watching Sunday Night Football,

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Speaker 1: Now, I was well aware of that situation with Tyrone

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Speaker 4: Probably yes, And yes, I've always up the last couple

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Speaker 4: the worst case scenario if Jones wins it, won the job,

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Speaker 4: and then they go ten and seven, eleven and six

436
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 4: and make the playoffs, win the division. Then what do

437
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 4: you do right? Then You've got You've got Daniel Jones

438
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,479
Speaker 4: who's a free agent, and you can always franchise him

439
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 4: for a year if you wanted, which is costly, but

440
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 4: it's just one year. So that would be such a great,

441
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 4: great problem to have issue to have, not a problem

442
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 4: issue to have. But boy, and what I consider trading

443
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 4: Richardson in the offseason? Yes, I would because I think

444
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 4: it would be hard to bring him back again, because

445
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 4: if things work out well, you're going to find some

446
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 4: way to bring Jones back and do this again.

447
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Speaker 1: Here's to me, Chap, what is impressive about Daniel Jones

448
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: and what's encouraging about Daniel Jones? And I mean this,

449
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: and I mean this is to Daniel Jones. This is

450
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: not meant in comparison to any other player. I don't

451
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: mean it that way at all. But the thing about

452
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: Jones to me that's been impressive is he seems to

453
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: have a very clear understanding as to the ceiling of

454
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones from one play to the next. And if

455
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: something's not working he doesn't step outside of what it

456
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: is that he needs or can do in order to

457
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: make it work. And for that reason, I think you

458
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: can grow with him. I think you can build around

459
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: him because of the fact that he does not put

460
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: himself for his team in a bad situation. If a

461
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: bad situation is out there to be had, Does that

462
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Speaker 1: make sense?

463
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Speaker 2: Oh?

464
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Speaker 4: Yeah. And that's why I say I can see this

465
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 4: continuing because he's not doing anything like always smokes. I've

466
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 4: not seen him throw the ball like that or whatever,

467
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 4: make a play like it. No, he's staying within within

468
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 4: the framework. It's and it comes off wrong, but he's

469
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 4: managing the offense. But he's not a game manager, and

470
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Speaker 4: I think there's a difference. A game manager is a

471
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Speaker 4: guy who really can't do it. Maybe minshew it's a

472
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 4: game manager. I don't know, but that's not what he is.

473
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 4: He's but he's managing the offense. And that's why I

474
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 4: say it's the one thing that change Dyke and emphasized

475
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 4: was he wanted to consistently reliability and that's one of

476
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Speaker 4: the reasons that he went with Jones. And because everything

477
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 4: and sometimes we're wrong to do this, but everything that

478
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 4: Styken has said about Daniel Jones is sort of what

479
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 4: you don't but you haven't got. With Richardson, you know,

480
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 4: you got the great plays and all that, but again

481
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 4: Jones was for Richardson's fifty percent completion percentage. You can't

482
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Speaker 4: play offense in the NFL with that, you can't. Jones

483
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 4: is at like seventy one percent and probably the most

484
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 4: incredible stat he's like nine point three in attempt So

485
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 4: while he's making the underneath throws to Warren and Pittman

486
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 4: and all this, he's getting show Stanley's eliat a nice

487
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 4: one to Josh stawmns. I thought the one Pierce got

488
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 4: hurt on I thought he caught it. I did. I thought,

489
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 4: I tell you control of it.

490
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Speaker 1: I would agree with that, and I think the replay

491
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: showed that right, I thought so.

492
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Speaker 4: I mean it was it was like the second bounce

493
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 4: that the ball came loose.

494
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: And I thought so in consequential. But when when Pierce

495
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: didn't get up from that play, we now know he's

496
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: in concussion protocol. I assumed he got because a lot

497
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: of times you see guys get the win knocked out him.

498
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: If you land on the football and it hits you

499
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 1: in the abdomen. That's what I kind of thought happened there.

500
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: But you know, we have to see in terms of

501
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: Pierce what the health status is beyond.

502
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 4: It's just it's his third concussion and he's missed one

503
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 4: game after each of the first two. So you know,

504
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 4: I was talking with somebody last night about it and

505
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 4: he said, he said, he's okay, Yeah, well players do that.

506
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 4: Of course players do that. So so we'll see. And

507
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 4: teams are extremely, extremely cautious with concussions because you have

508
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 4: to be so. But again, if he's out, then that's

509
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 4: going to give Mitchell a chance to step up and

510
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 4: be that guy. But again he'll be the third guy.

511
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 4: Pick at fourth guy when you consider it. Tyler Warren

512
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 4: with Pittman and Josh Now, I'm still waiting for Josh

513
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 4: downs to go off, which he hasn't done yet. So

514
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 4: but as long as got as long as you're getting

515
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor getting a hundred some yards. Again, people either

516
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 4: either don't recognize or forget that among active running backs

517
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 4: active running backs, he leads all of them in rushing

518
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 4: yards per game. It's like ninety yards a game or whatever.

519
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 4: He's had one hundred yards in six or the last seven.

520
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 4: And I had to double check this, and I do

521
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 4: trust the Colts PR, but I still had to check

522
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 4: it out. Or what is it? Three hundred and thirty

523
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 4: eight yards? I think it is in three games, the

524
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 4: most yards by a cult running back since at least

525
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 4: nineteen seventy, really in the first three games, and I thought, hey,

526
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 4: no way, Edrin had to have more than that, and

527
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 4: he didn't. So you know, Taylor's off to this great start.

528
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 4: Knock on wood. You hope, you hope he maintains his health.

529
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 4: But remember he ran. He ran for fourteen hundred last

530
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 4: year and he was three games. So again, I just

531
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 4: think that he I wrote this last week, and I

532
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 4: truly believe it. When Jones had his season in twenty

533
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 4: twenty two or like nine and seven, and they made

534
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 4: the playoffs and one and one of a first round game

535
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 4: he had Saint Kwon Berkley, and when you give a

536
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 4: quarterback that type of a running game, and then again,

537
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 4: this is the best supporting cast, best offensive line, best

538
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 4: set of receivers, best tied end that Jones has had,

539
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 4: and as long as these stays within himself, which I

540
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 4: whatever I know of Daniel Jones, I just don't get

541
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 4: the impression he's going to go out there one day

542
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 4: he says, you know, I'm going for four hundred today

543
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 4: because I want to. That's not him. So that's why

544
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 4: I say this is a kind of offense that that

545
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 4: you can't take away Michael Pittman, and then somebody else

546
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 4: jumps up and take away Tyler Warren, and then somebody

547
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 4: else jumps up. So so far, so good, And I

548
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 4: like to add structure because it's it's the kind of

549
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 4: thing that should that can and should continue.

550
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Speaker 1: By the way, chap if in no particular order, if

551
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: Marshall Falk, Eric Dickerson, Edge, Joseph and Dye, and Jonathan

552
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: Taylor are the top five backs in Indianapolis cult history,

553
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: who's sixth.

554
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 4: Tom the Crudes?

555
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: That's pretty good.

556
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe yeah should have been, but they the moneyman

557
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 4: Disney World. Uh but but yeah, I had someone tell me,

558
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 4: uh against someone inside the teams and yeah, you know,

559
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 4: top running backs, and he had they had like like

560
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 4: j T like fourth, and I no, that's yeah, I'll

561
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 4: give you Edge and probably Dickerson. But when he was here,

562
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 4: not Fault, I would agree with he took off. Fault

563
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 4: took off when he went to the Rams. So that's

564
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 4: why I say, it's just crazy how Taylor for whatever reason,

565
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is, and it's just not

566
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 4: that stupid fumble whatever in Denver. It's just that there's

567
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 4: something about him that people don't nationally don't appreciate. I

568
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 4: don't get it.

569
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Speaker 1: I think part of it's the devalue of the running

570
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: back for a time. I think it's starting to come

571
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: back in vogue.

572
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 4: But yeah, but that's cyclical and it's coming.

573
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: Back, That's what I mean. So the other thing is he,

574
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, Taylor for the running back position, Chap seemingly

575
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: you've either got to be a Barry Sanders juke move

576
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: guy and Eric Dickerson beautiful stride guy or an Earl

577
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: Campbell barrow you over guy. And Taylor is a little

578
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: bit of like two of the three of those. But

579
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: I but I don't know necesscessarily that either one. He

580
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: jumps out at you as being a staple of one

581
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: of those, and that's probably right.

582
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 4: But he's just the acceleration the other one probably don't have.

583
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: And he's got the thing about Taylor that is so fascinating,

584
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: not just as he had the acceleration, but the deceleration

585
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: in other words, you know what I mean. He can

586
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: go from second gear to six back to second and

587
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: then back to sixth again, which is impressive. Not many

588
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: guys that can do that.

589
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 4: Edgrin had that. He had that jump step and as

590
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 4: soon as he put his foot in the ground after

591
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 4: the cut, he was gone. People. I really don't think

592
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 4: people appreciated James Yeah, for his greatness.

593
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 1: By the way, Roosevelt Potts might be up there. Potts

594
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: and Albert Bentley both might be up there.

595
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 4: Albert Bentley could have He could have been something they

596
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 4: hadn't created for Dickerson. I mean, we can go back

597
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 4: to the Dickerson thing that it didn't It didn't work,

598
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 4: but it was the right thing to do at the time.

599
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 4: But you were never gonna win. You were never going

600
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 4: to go through bad times with Derrek Tickers and not

601
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 4: who he was. Rosie Potts was one of my favorite players,

602
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 4: and he just remember that, whether he led the team

603
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 4: or was second in rushing one year and then the

604
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 4: next year they drafted Marshall and Rosie came in and

605
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 4: he was a fullback and he came in. He cut

606
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 4: like twenty or thirty pounds, and he thought he was

607
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 4: going to challenge Folk for the lead runner a ound that, yeah,

608
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 4: that's not gonna happen. But Rose was a great guy.

609
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 4: But and he he didn't really understand his role. But

610
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 4: what a great guy. And he went through some tough times.

611
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 4: But whenever Taylor does things, you know, the most enfranchised

612
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 4: is this franchise has got some great, great running back, right,

613
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 4: and whenever he does something, it's folks, this is not normal.

614
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 4: And again people, I said, well, he he broke the

615
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 4: single season rushing record in a seventeen game season. Yeah,

616
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 4: he did. He did it in game sixteen, So he's special.

617
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 4: I hope he stays as healthy as a running back

618
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 4: can in a season. I want to see what he

619
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 4: can do with this offense, because he's gonna get eighty

620
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 4: yards just because and when he breaks one of those

621
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 4: plays like he's always going to be like he normally does,

622
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 4: it's something special. So I really want to see what

623
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: he can do and have Jones sort of coattail off

624
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 4: of that because it's such a great combination that works.

625
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 1: Mike Chapels our guest CBS four WX an Fox fifty

626
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: nine as well. Chap Obviously in week two, Xavier Howard

627
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: really struggled, and that defensive backfield has been depleted by

628
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: injury a little bit. Now we know Kenny Moore has

629
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: the cap injury, he may miss some time. Howard yesterday,

630
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: did he rebound or was it just the fact that

631
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: you're going against cam Ward who is learning the position

632
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: and a Titans group that is not over stout.

633
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 4: Probably that he did have a holding penalty, uh, which

634
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 4: I don't get on. DB's too much for that, although

635
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 4: three and five plays that he had two weeks ago

636
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 4: was a bit much. But yeah, this is they're really

637
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 4: testing the depth of the secondary and and and I'm

638
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 4: not defending anybody with the team, but I don't want

639
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 4: to hear well, they should have done more to reinforce

640
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 4: that position. No, you can't have like ten deep, for

641
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 4: crying out loud, I think it's gonna be it's gonna

642
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 4: be really important with with Javarious Ward Mooney Ward to

643
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 4: be well this week, which I think he just had

644
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 4: cramps yesterday. I think, but you're gonna have uh Nakoup

645
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 4: this week. And he's the real deal. Remember the game

646
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 4: they played here with him as a rookie. YEP, overtime

647
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 4: and and they forgot that he was out there and

648
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 4: he cut the touchdown and overtime. So the Rams, the

649
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 4: Rams are the real deal. I don't know how they

650
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Speaker 4: lost that game yesterday. I guess black Field Wills will

651
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 4: do that to you. But this will be This is

652
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 4: not to beat my home. But I thought six and

653
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 4: two was. It was a very realistic start for these guys,

654
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 4: winning the first three, losing to the Rams, and then

655
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 4: you're home the next two.

656
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: Right after that, you've got Raiders and Cardinals at home.

657
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 4: I mean to get your right, and then you go

658
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 4: to Pittsburgh and then they can get Tennessee home.

659
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: Well they here's what they got because I'm looking at

660
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: it right here. They got Rams right, and then you

661
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: go back to back home games with the Raiders and Cardinals,

662
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: followed by back to LA to take on the Chargers.

663
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Speaker 4: Those are the two I thought they would lose.

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Speaker 1: And then you've got Tennessee at home, so you get

665
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: right again, and then that's when Pittsburgh. Then you got

666
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: to go to in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what they are. You know, they needed

668
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: five turnovers to beat New England, right or take it takeaways?

669
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 4: I mean and then you go to to Berlin against

670
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 4: Atlanta who just got rolled, and then you get to

671
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 4: buy a week and and then it gets tougher. Although

672
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 4: you know, we love to look ahead Kansas. Any there's

673
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 4: something wrong with the Chiefs.

674
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: They can't run. They don't wrong, Chiefs don't have just

675
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: a a pound you in between the tackles level back

676
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: to salt clock. If they get a lead, that's their problem, right, they.

677
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 4: Need they need to center Grove kid again his name escapes.

678
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

679
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 4: I did a story on anybody here for the Pro Day.

680
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 4: So yeah, so again, you never know how it's gonna go.

681
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 4: That's why stealing one against Denver, which they absolutely stole

682
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 4: one against dinverd they did, uh, but but that that's

683
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 4: how the NFL works, and you just you just stack him.

684
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 4: And I think so far Steichen has done a great

685
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 4: job of keeping these guys locked in the oh seven

686
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 4: day because if there if there was a trap game,

687
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 4: it was Sunday it was. And then cam Hord mails

688
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 4: you a seven to nothing lead, which is what an

689
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 4: awful throw. But I like what this team's doing. Again.

690
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 4: I think what's important to me is are not doing

691
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 4: anything extraordinary? The boy they're playing at a high level.

692
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 4: Special teams still bother with me with some of the

693
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 4: returns coverage. But every team's got issues. This team has

694
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 4: fewer than most.

695
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: It's so far, so far, so good, and they look

696
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: they do credit to Chris Ballard, they do look like

697
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: they've got depth and areas that they wanted to have depth.

698
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: Mike Chapel, CBS four, w x A and Fox to

699
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: Denn chap appreciate it as always, to talk to you

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00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: next week.

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00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 4: All right, look forward to it, you guys. Be well.

702
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Speaker 1: All right, my Chapel joining us on the program, joining

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Speaker 1: us now on the guest line. He had two sacks

704
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: yesterday and of course leading that defense that made things

705
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: difficult for Tennessee yesterday. Taekwon Lewis joining us on the show. Taikwan,

706
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Speaker 1: how are you?

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00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 5: How are you doing? I'm good, just I'm doing just far.

708
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 5: I'm ready get this week started. You know, I was

709
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 5: excited about last week and yesterday's so formance, but ready

710
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 5: to get going this week.

711
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Speaker 1: You know, how does it, to be honest with you,

712
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm curious of this in the NFL calendar, so to speak.

713
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: Uh mondays I would assume are primarily for you guys.

714
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 1: To maybe get treatment and kind of look over things

715
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: and then turn the page. Like, at what point in

716
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: the course of a week do you put the previous

717
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: game completely behind you and then start looking towards the

718
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: next opponent? What what timeline does that take place?

719
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Speaker 5: Uh? I say, usually right after we finish the film,

720
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 5: you know, we we watch it, go over the corrections

721
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 5: and mishappens in the NV. You know, we pretty much

722
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 5: want to the next thing, and you just start breaking

723
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 5: down tape, you know, just breaking down players, plays, concepts

724
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 5: and stuff, and you know it's it's like routine, have

725
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 5: it to us?

726
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: And the film session is when like Monday morning, Monday afternoon, Tuesday.

727
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: What day do you guys go over? What's that?

728
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Speaker 5: Monday Mondays, Monday on Monday morning, Monday morning, when Monday afternoon?

729
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 5: And then after that, uh, you know tuesdays or usually

730
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 5: our off day. But you know a lot of guys

731
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 5: still come to work and we just just grind it out. Man.

732
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Speaker 1: You know what's funny to me? Taekwon Lewis our guests

733
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: from the Colts. I'm curious when you're watch when you

734
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: watch film, for example, how often do you see stuff

735
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: that that you don't recall during the course of the game,

736
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: or that you that you see it when you're watching

737
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: it from up high, where you're like, man, that does

738
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: now I do see what we did wrong? Or you

739
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Or usually more often than not,

740
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: does it pretty much spell out what you knew going

741
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: into it?

742
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 5: Uh? Yeah, majority of the time. You know. I think

743
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 5: the thing with film is we usually have three views

744
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 5: of it that the television watcher like can't see. So

745
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 5: when we watch safe, it's usually like from multiple views.

746
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 5: You got up high, you got right behind the D line,

747
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 5: and then you got the other side with the offenses.

748
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 5: So you know, it gives the coaches and the players

749
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 5: a little bit more perspective from like each different position.

750
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: So yesterday, let's talk about this in terms of Tennessee.

751
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: You know, you know going into it that you were

752
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 1: going against a quarterback who is new to the league,

753
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: but at the same time pretty darn athletic, right, you know,

754
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: what sort of things just from a matchup or maybe

755
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: it's low and Umo's defense that you like, what sort

756
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: of things did facilitate or enable you to get multiple sacks? Yesterday?

757
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 5: All right? Really it was just knowing that, you know,

758
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 5: the guys back, having our backs and coverage and you

759
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 5: know guys next to me, you know, just honoring our rustlanes.

760
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 5: You know that's the main thing. The key to sacks

761
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 5: is just wrest lanes and one of your one on ones.

762
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 5: I think it's a lot of discipline amongst us as

763
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 5: a group. You know, cover, Rush, Russian cover all goes together.

764
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 5: You know, I pull out everybody that that that helps

765
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 5: us get sacks, and you know we help out when

766
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 5: people get intercesses.

767
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: What was the uh, I'll say learning curve. I mean

768
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: anytime that you have a new boss, a new coordinator,

769
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: it's different, right, So so when you come in with

770
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: vander Room. But what you know what was different this year?

771
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 5: Well, I would say it's a it's a it's a

772
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 5: lot more schematics. I would say, you know, Lou Lou

773
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 5: is definitely like a maths scientist. You know, he has

774
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 5: a lot of like different ways he could like set

775
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 5: things up. And I mean it took a lot of

776
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 5: learning for us because you know we're used to playing

777
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 5: you know, a four down at tax style defense and

778
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 5: you know this one is it's a lot more like

779
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 5: you know, discipline and more gap integrity. I should say

780
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 5: versus like you know, any other system that I've been in,

781
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 5: Like it's always gap integrity, but it's more disrupt the

782
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 5: previous years we played what.

783
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: About for you guys as a team, Taekwan lewis our guest.

784
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: You know, you're three and zero. There were a lot

785
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: of question marks coming into the year. And I know

786
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 1: it's the other side of the ball, but I wanted

787
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: you to just expand, taekwe for our listeners and for

788
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: colts fans about you know Daniel Jones in general, Like

789
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: he just seems to be kind of a quiet leader type.

790
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: I know it's a different side of the ball, different room,

791
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: but it seems to be kind of setting a tone

792
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: for you guys in general. Is that an accurate statement

793
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: in terms of the kind of leadership Jones is?

794
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 5: For the leader he is, uh, I would definitely say

795
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 5: that he is the guy who brings everyone together. You know,

796
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 5: he knows everybody, He hangs out with everybody. You know,

797
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 5: he's a real locker room guy. He's a real great guy. Man.

798
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 5: He's just a cool dude. You know, he's he's one

799
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 5: of the guys. He's like one of the guys. And

800
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 5: I mean he never like leaves anyone out. You know,

801
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 5: I respect him for that. I think he does a

802
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 5: great job with that. I think that, you know, the

803
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 5: camaraderie in the locker room right now was you know,

804
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 5: it's high. I mean, we're winning and you know, the

805
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 5: brotherhood is getting stronger as we win. You know, throughout

806
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 5: the highs and lows of training camp for all of that,

807
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 5: you know, everybody start together through everything that was going on,

808
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 5: you know, so you know, we just blocked out the

809
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 5: noise and we just go to work every single day.

810
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: Were you guys surprised that, I mean that was such

811
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: a big storyline that the quarterback battle, right Were you

812
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: surprised it was? Jones?

813
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that the way that the coaches

814
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 5: went about it, you know, it was just we knew

815
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 5: what we had to do as a defense, and we

816
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 5: knew we had to do as a team in order

817
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 5: to win. So I wouldn't say a surprise, but we

818
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 5: just knew that whatever the decision was, we were gonna

819
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 5: rally behind it and we were just gonna come together

820
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 5: as a team and just win win games.

821
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Speaker 1: You know. One of the things that taekwon Lewis is

822
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: our guests that to me. I'll give it and I've

823
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: mentioned this I'll give Chris Ballard a lot of credit

824
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: for and that is that it seems like you guys

825
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: have more depth than you have on other teams that

826
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: you've been a part of with the Colts in certain

827
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: areas have been tested, like for example, already behind you

828
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: in the defensive backfield, you know, guys have gone down

829
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: and others have been able to step in and play well.

830
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: You know, they've got some depth there. But I'm curious

831
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: for you or just as a unit in general, do

832
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: you do you kind of have to learn tendencies of

833
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: different guys when you're not used to being on the

834
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: field with them. Or is scheme scheme and the faces

835
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: don't matter?

836
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 5: Uhs scheme and I think like faces do matter. But however,

837
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 5: you know, you are to play to the level of

838
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 5: your preparation, and you know, I think that all of

839
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 5: that plays apart into it, you know, especially as like

840
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 5: as a defense. You know, we're not going out there

841
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 5: and asking you to be someone that you're not. We

842
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 5: just asked that you be the best version of you

843
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 5: when you go out there. Make sure you do your

844
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 5: job because at the end of the day, It's all

845
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 5: about the team. You know. If you do your job,

846
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 5: you're disciplined, and you play to the level of your

847
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 5: preparation ability. You know, the rest of you take care

848
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 5: of yourself.

849
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 1: Okay, now we do this each time I have somebody

850
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: on taikwan. I'm going to do it with you real quick. Here, Okay,

851
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: you are from Tarboro, North Carolina. Did I say that? Correct?

852
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 5: That's there?

853
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: Okay? And I don't know is that where is that?

854
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: Is that near Charlotte or what part of north the

855
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: state of North Carolina is No.

856
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 5: I'm actually from eastern North Carolina. I think I like

857
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 5: to call it the best part of the state where

858
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 5: you get barbecue.

859
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough. Now, your high school, by the way,

860
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: purple and yellow and the Vikings. Right, So, did you

861
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: grow up a fan of the Minnesota Vikings?

862
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 5: No, I actually grew up a fan of the Indianapolis. Cool.

863
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: There you go. There's the answer. That's the right answer

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Speaker 1: right there. Okay, Yeah, Now here's the thing. Your high

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Speaker 1: school and I'm looking right now, I'm going to give

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Speaker 1: you a little trivia quiz. Here. Are you ready?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 1: There are a couple of players that are listed as

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Speaker 1: prominent alumni of your high school. Actually, it's pretty impressive

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Speaker 1: the list of alumni from your high school. One of

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Speaker 1: them and this one, like, I'm way older than you are, Okay,

872
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Speaker 1: but I'm curious how much this guy was talked about

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Speaker 1: at your schooler when you were a kid. One of

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Speaker 1: these guys was a prominent USFL player and also NFL

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Speaker 1: player that had a really good career as a running back,

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Speaker 1: and he had played at the University of North Carolina

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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, in the early eighties and was

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Speaker 1: probably the first breakout. Do you know who I'm talking about?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, number forty four, Calvin right.

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Speaker 1: Kelvin Bryant is correct, Yes, all right? Now, super Bowl

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Speaker 1: he did as a matter of fact, one of what

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Speaker 1: the Washington then Redskins. Okay, Now, another guy I think

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Speaker 1: that probably would have been a teammate of yours. Did

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Speaker 1: Are you the same class as or how close were

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Speaker 1: you to Todd Gurley?

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Speaker 5: Uh? He is one year old, one one class older.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So but you guys, I'm just assuming that you

888
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Speaker 1: guys had to have been really good in high school.

889
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 1: Were you really good?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Like how good?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 1: It says here nine football state championships sir, Tarboro was

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Speaker 1: one of them on a team you were on.

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Speaker 5: Uh? Three of them?

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Speaker 1: Three of them?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, fair enough?

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Speaker 5: I think the fourth straight?

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Speaker 1: Well who beat you in the fourth?

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Speaker 5: Uh? I think uh East Lincoln?

902
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, cheaters right, East Lincoln cheaters, corrupt program?

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Speaker 5: Yeah six? I think he has six favels in one day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. That that won't do it for you, that's for certain. Okay. Then, lastly,

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Speaker 1: so your Buckeyes is Ohio State, Ohio State? Right now?

906
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Speaker 1: How much do you still follow? I know you guys

907
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Speaker 1: in the locker room, you know, will joke around, kind

908
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Speaker 1: of poke fun to each other, that kind of thing.

909
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Speaker 1: How much do you realistically get a chance to watch

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Speaker 1: what Ohio State's doing?

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00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 5: I try to watch every Saturday if they try to

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Speaker 5: catch it.

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Speaker 1: And they they are or are not the best team

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Speaker 1: in college football not named? Come on? What about Hey?

915
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: How about Indiana? Though?

916
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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 1: Come on, give the who'ser some love here? It's Ohio

918
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: Ohio against the world, right okay? Lastly, Taekwon, you know,

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Speaker 1: I know you guys probably have not gotten a chance

920
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Speaker 1: to get into it just yet. But one thing we

921
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: know about the Rams that is the next on the

922
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Speaker 1: schedule for you not only a great stadium, great environment,

923
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: but that is a pretty high flying offense. Your thoughts

924
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: so far, at least from the outside about Matt Stafford

925
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Speaker 1: in that.

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Speaker 5: Group, Well, we know they have some dynamic playmakers and

927
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Speaker 5: they're running back and Karen Williams, Pooka Nicole, I mean,

928
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Speaker 5: obviously he's he's he had a really great year last year.

929
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Speaker 5: Davontae Adams, he's an established VET. They have Tyler Higby, uh,

930
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Speaker 5: you know, he's been around, and you know Gray old Line.

931
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Speaker 5: You know, they have a great head coach and McVay

932
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Speaker 5: who all. You know, I think all of those guys,

933
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Speaker 5: you know, I played against them before, so you know,

934
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Speaker 5: it's it's definitely quite fascinating to watch what they do

935
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Speaker 5: on offense. But you know, we line up and play

936
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Speaker 5: football anywhere anytime, So you know, it's just guy get

937
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Speaker 5: ready to play the game and played the right way

938
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Speaker 5: and go out do our jobs and get a win.

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Speaker 1: Speaking the head coaches, you've obviously been here, you know,

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Speaker 1: for the totality of Shane Stikeen's time, it seems from

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Speaker 1: the outside like Shane Stikeen has really kind of grown

942
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Speaker 1: into that role. How if in any way, have you

943
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Speaker 1: seen him grow or change from when he first became

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Speaker 1: a head coach to now.

945
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Speaker 5: Oh, Shane Shane does a great job. You know, he

946
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Speaker 5: does a great job navigating us in the locker room

947
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Speaker 5: and putting us in the right position to win, especially

948
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Speaker 5: with like building a bond with with with the guys. Uh,

949
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Speaker 5: you know, he this year we did a lot of

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Speaker 5: like off season things where we came together a little more.

951
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Speaker 5: You know, we got you know, I mean, you guys

952
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Speaker 5: probably seeing it on social media or something, but like

953
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Speaker 5: you know, we do bowling, we go paintballing with just

954
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Speaker 5: a lot of stuff Shane Shane like implements with us

955
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Speaker 5: in order to help us grow as a team and

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Speaker 5: you know, just be connected because i mean, like he says,

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Speaker 5: when we're connected with I mean we're yeah, we're connected

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Speaker 5: with committed, and you know, it just builds us together.

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Speaker 5: So and I mean that's that's the biggest thing I've

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Speaker 5: seen for him.

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Speaker 1: Are you a good bowler?

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Speaker 5: I mean I'm dcent. You know, I go hang.

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Speaker 1: Out, I I'm good at bowling for like one game

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Speaker 1: and then after that, like you you would not have

965
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Speaker 1: this problem. But for me, eventually, like I'm like man,

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Speaker 1: my arm is sore from bowling too much, which is weird,

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Speaker 1: I realized.

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Speaker 5: But you know what I mean. Uh, yeah, it does

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Speaker 5: get like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Taekwan Lewis again, Colts Rams coming up on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: But for right now, the big news is one of

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Speaker 1: six that are unbeaten in the National Football League and

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Speaker 1: two sacks yesterday against the Tennessee Titans, two of the

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Speaker 1: four where the Colts came from. Taekwon Lewis, Taekwon, We

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Speaker 1: appreciate it, man, appreciate the time and look forward to

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Speaker 1: watching you over the course of the year. And then also,

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Speaker 1: don't be totally upset if in fact there is some

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Speaker 1: sort of an upset. And I think Indiana place. Does

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Speaker 1: Indiana have Ohio state this year?

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Speaker 5: Eddie?

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Speaker 1: Maybe they don't. It might be a break for your bucks. Yeah,

982
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Speaker 1: it's a break for the Buckeyes. Scheduling breaks the million two.

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Speaker 1: All right, Taekwan, appreciate it, man, all right, appreciate you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Taekwan Lewis from the Indianapolis Colts