1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: In the hearts of Detroit, Michigan. A devoted mother, her 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 1: cherished children, and her husband have seemingly vanished in the 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: thin air, leaving behind a haunting silence. The community wants 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: alive with laughter and warmth, has now turned into a 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: landscape of concern and fear as they grapple with mystery 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: of a missig fan What happens when love becomes faith? 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: This is a Fatal Attraction podcast with a violent vanishing. 8 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 2: June fifth, twenty fourteen. It's a bright summer morning in Detroit, Michigan, 9 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: a rust belt city that's hustling to pull itself up 10 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 2: by the bootstraps. 11 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: Detroit is a grind, a hard working city. You come here, 12 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: you're gonna love and have a passion for the city. 13 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 4: Now I'm proud to say I'm from Detroit, and I'd 14 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 4: never plan on leaving honestly. 15 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: The morning marks a significant milestone for one Detroit family. 16 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: Alisha Fox's daughter Kayla, is graduating kindergarten. 17 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 5: Alicia was extremely excited, so excited that she bought Kayla 18 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 5: a customed calf and gown. 19 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: It should have been one of the best days ever, 20 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:23,639 Speaker 3: but as. 21 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: The ceremony is about to begin, Kayla's teacher realizes something 22 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: is wrong. 23 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 6: I'm standing getting the kindergarteners up to go to the stage, 24 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 6: and we get to the last student. I realized Kayla 25 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 6: wasn't in line. 26 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: Her mother is missing too. 27 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 6: I did a three sixty and looked through the audience 28 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 6: and Alisha was not present. 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 7: Alisha's husband aar injustice, and their eight month old son 30 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 7: was absent as well. 31 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: The only family member in the crowd is Kayla's father. 32 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 8: Heys or Cayla anywhere. 33 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 9: Kayla's dad was just as puzzled as her teacher. 34 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: I've been calling her phone all day, but it's been 35 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: going straight to voice now, So Harry, she was excited 36 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: about this. She wouldn't missed us. 37 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: Unable to reach Alisha, he trues her sister. 38 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 5: Kayla's dad called me saying, where's Alisha. Where's Kayla? And 39 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 5: I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, they didn't 40 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 5: show up to the graduation. She talked about it all 41 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 5: of the time. 42 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 3: At this point, they're starting to be concerned. 43 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 6: There was no way that Alisha was going to miss 44 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 6: Kayla's graduation. 45 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 4: Something wasn't right. 46 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: Twenty seven year old Alisha Fox had spent her whole 47 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: life in the city of Detroit. 48 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 5: We grew up on the East side of Detroit. My 49 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 5: mom raised us all. It was three girls and three boys, 50 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 5: and Alisha was like the second mom because you know, 51 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 5: she was the oldest. 52 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 4: Alicia was always the one to protect her loved ones. 53 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 8: I just remember her being a sweetheart. 54 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 5: Aliciha was versatile. She could tell a joke, she you know, 55 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 5: make people laugh. She would cook and plan family events. 56 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 5: She was a backbone to you know, someone who needed. 57 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: Support, although by twenty years old, Alisha was busy supporting 58 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 2: a family of her own. 59 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: After graduating high school, Alsha got very close with the 60 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: male friend that she grew up with. 61 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 5: They met, I believe it was elementary school. His mom 62 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 5: says that she knew that they were gonna grow up 63 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 5: and sparks were gonna fly. 64 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: They end up falling in love and they ended up 65 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: having a daughter. 66 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 5: I don't think that Cayla was planned, but when they 67 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 5: found out about her, they both were equally excited. She 68 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 5: was very proud to be a mother. Her entire life 69 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 5: became Kayla. They were best friends. Like you never really 70 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 5: saw Alicha without Kyla. 71 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: Alicia and Kayla's father soon went their separate ways, though. 72 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 5: There was like a mutual understanding. 73 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 4: Coole parents have seemed real easy and they got along 74 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 4: will and I just never seen any issues or problems. 75 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 4: Everything they did was in the best interests of Kayla. 76 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 4: They communicated with each other. 77 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 5: They were able to come together whenever they needed to 78 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 5: for Kayla. 79 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: Before long, there would be another man and Alicia and 80 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: Kayla's lives, Aaron Justice. 81 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 5: Alicia and Aaron started dating in twenty twelve. 82 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, thank you, we're starving. 83 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: I got to take care of. 84 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 7: My girls, much like Kyla's father before him. Alicia had 85 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 7: known Aaron for a long time. 86 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 5: They knew each other since Alicia was a teenager. They 87 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 5: had a mutual group of friends, so he was always around. 88 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: Even though she wasn't trying to be in a relationship. 89 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 3: He was smooth, he was suave, and they ended up 90 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: getting together. 91 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 5: Aaron was very chivalrous. He was pretty much a sweetheart 92 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 5: to Alisha. 93 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: He also had her back. 94 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 3: He came into Alisa's life and he'd be encouraged Alisha 95 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 3: to go back to school to be a medical assistant. 96 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 5: I vividly remember he would make promises to her and 97 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 5: she would be like, well, don't flake on me, you know, 98 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 5: don't say it if you're not gonna do it, and 99 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 5: he'd be like, I promised scout's honor. 100 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: Aaron kept his promise too, helping take care of Kayla 101 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: while Alisha went back to school. 102 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 8: You sure you don't mind? 103 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 10: Of course, maybe let's go. 104 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 3: You got at that test. 105 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 5: He and Kayla did have a pretty good relationship, planning, 106 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 5: watching TV, you know, playing games, and cayleb you know, 107 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 5: was cool hanging around him, having them there. 108 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 9: Aaron was so good with Caleb. He was exactly what 109 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 9: Alisha had been looking for, so she could see herself 110 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 9: spending the rest of her life with him. 111 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: And as Alicia was finishing her medical assistance certification, she 112 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 2: gave birth to the couple's son, Christian. 113 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 5: She was extremely excited. She wanted more kids, mean, she 114 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 5: wanted a boy. 115 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 7: Erin was just as excited as Alicia. 116 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 2: And for Alisha, it looked like she'd really hit the jackpot. 117 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 5: After Alicia had Christian, they got married, they moved into 118 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 5: a bigger house. 119 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 4: Everything happened very fast. But I was just happy that 120 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 4: she was happy. I love seeing her happy. 121 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 5: Things seemed like they were on up and up. 122 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: But now, on the day of Kayle's kindergarten graduation, the 123 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: entire family is a no show. 124 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 9: Alicia had been working hard for weeks to make this 125 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 9: moment special. It made no sense. 126 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 6: There was just too much invested in it. 127 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: She wouldn't have missed it for the world. Concerned, Alicia's 128 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: family desperately tries to reach her. 129 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 5: I called her phone, text her, called Aaron's phone, text 130 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 5: him if I didn't get through to anybody. 131 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 7: Alicia's sister called other family and friends too, but they 132 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 7: hadn't heard from Alicia either. 133 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 5: By the end of the night, I was worried enough 134 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 5: to start calling hospitals. I couldn't sleep at all. 135 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: The next morning, Alicia's sister and several family members decide 136 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: to go over to her house. 137 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 10: Alicia, Lucia, Alicia, you hear. 138 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 9: There was no answer to their knocks and there was 139 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 9: no car in the driveway. 140 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 5: Someone discovered a window was unhocked, so they climbed in 141 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 5: and opened the door. 142 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: But inside they find nothing. 143 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 7: All of their stuff was gone. 144 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more of this heart wrenching story as 145 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: we uncover the chilling details of what unfolded during this 146 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: tragedy event. This is the Fatal Attraction podcast. 147 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 2: Everyone thought Alicia Fox had found her fairy tale ending 148 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: when she fell for twenty eight year old Aaron Justice. 149 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 8: I do remember her being really really happy. 150 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 5: They moved into a bigger house and they got married, 151 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 5: so I thought everything was well. 152 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: But now, after Alicia missed her daughter's kindergarten graduation, relaps 153 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: have found your house empty and abandoned. 154 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 5: We all get that feeling where it's like something's not right. 155 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 5: That was pretty much the feeling that I had. 156 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 4: It wouldn't have been like Alisha to just pack up 157 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 4: her things and the kids things and just leave without 158 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 4: telling her. 159 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: Family wherever they were. It doesn't appear that they left 160 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: in a hurry. 161 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 5: The house was spotless, you would have assumed that it 162 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 5: was professionally clean. 163 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 9: The whole house smells. 164 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 2: Like bleach, and when she searches the basement, Alicia's sister 165 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: finds a stash of empty bleach containers. 166 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 5: Which raised the red flag, you know, because it's like, 167 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 5: why so much foach? 168 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: Was the empty house also a crime scene. Fearing the worst, 169 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 2: Alicia's sister goes straight to the police. 170 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 5: I made a missing person's report for everyone, and then 171 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 5: Kayla's dad made a separate report on behalf of Kayla. 172 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 3: Lisa's family tells the police officers the last time they 173 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 3: saw Alicia was at a Memorial Day. She was her normal, 174 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 3: bubbly self, and she didn't say anything about moving out 175 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: of town. 176 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: Once Alicia's sister files the report, officers accompany her back 177 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: to the house. 178 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 7: Of course, they didn't see anything indicative of foul play. 179 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 11: The house was there that might need one to believe 180 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 11: the whole family moved and they just didn't tell anybody. 181 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: That's essentially what one neighbor tells the police as they're 182 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: leaving the empty house. 183 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 5: He walked over and says, oh, they just moved, just really. 184 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: Well, there was a moon van out here a while ago. 185 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: Maybe Aaron and Alicia got into some financial situation and 186 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 3: they could no longer afford the rent here. 187 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 9: If it was due to money troubles, maybe they were 188 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 9: too embarrassed to tell anyone. 189 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 2: The family doesn't think so. 190 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 5: That doesn't make any sense. 191 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 7: They're an extremely close knit family, So for Alicia not 192 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 7: to ask for help with the move or at least 193 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 7: share the news just didn't seem like her. 194 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: But at this point the police are hesitant to launch 195 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: a full scale search. 196 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 5: They gave me a report number, pretty much told me 197 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 5: wait to see if you hear from her. 198 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 8: You know, that's it. 199 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 3: That's it. You have a good day. 200 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 11: Many adults leave, they're grown. They can leave on their own. 201 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 11: They can come back when they want to. 202 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: Unsatisfied Alicia's family sets out to find their loved ones 203 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: on their own. 204 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 5: We pretty much started doing our own investigating. 205 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: Starting with her sister social media posts. 206 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 5: On Alicia's social media, a lot of the posts were 207 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 5: trying to portray that she was taking the kids to 208 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 5: Cedar Point instead of going to Kayla's graduation. 209 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 9: Cedar Point is at amusement park that is two hours away. 210 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 8: This is not making any sense. 211 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 7: She had never said anything about skipping the graduation Cayla. 212 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 5: She's barely tall enough to ride. Why would she skip 213 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 5: out on this graduation to go to Cedar Point. 214 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 9: There was nothing in Alicia's social media about moving out 215 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 9: of their house either. 216 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: Something seemed off. 217 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: The contents of the posts are at all that's off. 218 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: Either the burbage is different in these posts. She doesn't 219 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 2: talk like this. She doesn't use this kind of punctuation 220 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: for Alicia's sister. The implications are clear. 221 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 5: And she does not type like this. 222 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: Now someone else had made the posts. 223 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: Why would someone polls as Alisha. 224 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: More worried than ever. That's something horrible has happened. Alicia's 225 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: sister and her family reached back out to the police. 226 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 8: I'm telling you, she. 227 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 5: Did not post this stuff. 228 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: Police ask is there anyone that would want to do 229 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 3: harm to Alicia? 230 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: It's a question the family has a hard time answering. 231 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 8: Alicia didn't have enemies. 232 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: The only person that could possibly think of was her ex, 233 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: Cayles fall. 234 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 5: No, it was a man between him and her husband. 235 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more of the Fatal Attraction podcast. 236 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: According to Alicia Fox's family, the missing mother of two 237 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 2: had a complicated history with her ex boyfriend, a man 238 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: named Nick Barnes. 239 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 8: Alicia and Nick's relationship wasn't the best. 240 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 5: They were young, and he made some decisions, you know, 241 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 5: that were detrimental to their relationship. 242 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 11: He was a drug dealer, somewhat unsavory character. 243 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: In addition to his past relationship with Alisha, Nick also 244 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: had a history with Alicia's husband, Aaron. 245 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 9: He was not only Alicia's ex, he was Aaron's former 246 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 9: best friend, but. 247 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: That had changed after Nick's drug dealing landed him in jail. 248 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 7: While he was on the inside, Nick asked Aaron to 249 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 7: check up on Alisha. 250 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 5: That's when he stepped in and became that supportive friend 251 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 5: trying to help her. 252 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: He tried to be a comforting shoulder to Alicia. 253 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: Although it wasn't long before Aaron was doing more than 254 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: just comforting Alicia. 255 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 5: Seeing Alicia hit it off and they ended up together. 256 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 11: The family was real happy about their relationship. 257 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 4: I do remember feeling happy that she moved on from 258 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 4: being with Nick. 259 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: However, when Nick got out of jail, he wasn't as 260 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: happy about how things had worked out. 261 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: He was furious with both Aaron and Alicia. I mean, 262 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: his friend is not dating his ex girlfriend. 263 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 7: He regularly let them know how he felt about what 264 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 7: he considered their betrayal. 265 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: Nick had a history of harassing them. It was so 266 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: bad that Aaron Alicia had to move across town. Is 267 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: this enough to say Nick is the reason the family 268 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: has disappeared. 269 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: Alicia's friends and family aren't so sure. 270 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 4: I would have never thought that he found out where 271 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 4: she stayed and then did something to them or anything 272 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 4: like that, because he did love her. 273 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 8: You could tell that he loved her for sure. 274 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: But with the whole family missing, detectives aren't so to 275 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 2: rule it out. 276 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 7: Next criminal past raised a lot of red flax. 277 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 11: There was enough information there to make them think possibly 278 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 11: he was involved. He's an ex boyfriend, he's got a 279 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 11: criminal past. He had jealousy and resentment for the relationship 280 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 11: that Alisia and Aaron had, so Nick had to be 281 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 11: looked at as a possible suspect. 282 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: But when detectives reach out, Nick isn't interested in talking. 283 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 10: Hello. 284 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 3: On a side, detective, I want you to come down 285 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: to the station to answer some questions about the disappearance 286 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 3: of Alisha Fox. Look, if you want to talk to me, 287 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: call my lawyer. 288 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 9: Nick has dealt with the police before he's done time, 289 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 9: so he knew how the game was played. 290 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: Which only leaves detectives more suspicious. 291 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 11: You are able to talk to that person and you 292 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 11: find out they're not cooperati, you would see what other 293 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 11: information you could find out. 294 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: While detectives dick deeper into Nick, the family's frustration grows 295 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: and they decide to launch their own effort to find 296 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: Alicia and the others. 297 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 5: We'd hit the ground running. 298 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 3: Alisa's family is in the streets trying to figure out 299 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: does anybody have an idea what happened to Alicia and 300 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 3: her family. 301 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 5: We had a couple people call and say, oh, I 302 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 5: think I saw her. She was walking the baby in 303 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 5: a stroller. So we go over there. We're searching, you know, 304 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 5: pretty much excited. We did find the girl who actually 305 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 5: resembled Alicia, but wasn't her. 306 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: Then, on June ninth, four days after Kayla's kindergarten graduation, 307 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 2: the family receives an anonymous tip. 308 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 3: The tipster tells him he got the number from this 309 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 3: flyer that was posted around the city and they should 310 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 3: go check out this abandoned home on the west side 311 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 3: of Detroit. 312 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 9: The tipster provided an addressed but no other details. 313 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 2: Alicia's family races to the abandoned house. 314 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 5: We called the police, but we beat them there. 315 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 7: At that point, they weren't about to wait. 316 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 5: We holed the boards off the house. 317 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: Despite the boards, the abandoned house shows signs of activity. 318 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 5: You could tell that, you know, probably squatters had been 319 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 5: in the house. 320 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 10: Ela. 321 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 7: As they approached the basement stairs, Alicia's uncle held everybody 322 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 7: else back. 323 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 5: There was this really aerie feeling. 324 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 8: Well. 325 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: The rest of the family waits upstairs. Alicia's uncle just 326 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: sending into the basement. 327 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 5: I remember my uncle just yelling up the stairs there's 328 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 5: something down here that we ran downstairs. 329 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 9: He found an old door lying on top of something 330 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 9: wrapped in a tar. 331 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 5: He lifted the door up and pulled the tart back. 332 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: There is a dead body in the Facebook. 333 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: Stay tuned as this tragic story continues to unfold This 334 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: is the Fatal Attraction podcast. 335 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: Alicia Fox's loved ones have spent four anxious days combing 336 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: the streets of Detroit for the missing mother, her husband, Aaron, 337 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: and their two children. But now an anonymous tip has 338 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: brought their frantic search to a devastating end. 339 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 11: The family went to an abandoned house and found a 340 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 11: body in the basement. 341 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 5: It was Alicia. I knew that it was her. She 342 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 5: had on her favorite purple basketball shorts. 343 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 7: At that point, it was too late. Everyone knew that 344 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 7: Alicia was dead. 345 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 5: That day was just it was just rough. 346 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: Outside the house. Alicia's uncle calls the police, while her 347 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 2: sister contacts the father of Alicia's daughter. 348 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 5: I remember telling him, you know, we had found her. 349 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: He's at the abandoned house within minutes before the police 350 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: even arrived. 351 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 5: He ran in, you know, because he couldn't believe it. 352 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 5: He had to see it for himself. All I remember 353 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 5: thinking is right now, he's terrified about the safety of 354 00:20:58,640 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 5: his daughter. 355 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: Police and homicide detectives get to the scene soon after. 356 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 11: Homicide investigators respond to the scene. Even if the cause 357 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 11: of death is not known, it is a suspicious depth. 358 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 3: Have you signed the cats? 359 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 10: No? 360 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 3: Nothing. 361 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 2: After speaking with the officer, detectives see what potential clues 362 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: they can uncover from Alicia's remains. 363 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 9: A quick examination of the body confirmed that they were 364 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 9: dealing with a homicide. 365 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 3: Alicia had been shot six times, with two shots to 366 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 3: the head. 367 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 2: However, that's not the only injury Alicia suffered. 368 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 3: It also appears while trying to dispose of her body, 369 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 3: Alisa's killer tried to sever her legs. 370 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 5: It was a very graphic scene. 371 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 3: Ever did this to Alicia had to be a sick, 372 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 3: deranged individual. 373 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 2: It's also evident to detectives that Alicia's murder had occurred 374 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: well before the family reported her missing. 375 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 11: Levanni was in a state of decomposition, and it was 376 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 11: determined that Alicia had been in the basement, possibly more 377 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 11: than four days. 378 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 3: In fact, police think she might have been killed not 379 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 3: long after the family last saw her two weeks ago. 380 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: But officers don't locate any other bodies inside the house. 381 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: Where is airic justice? Where are the children? 382 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 7: Could they still be alive? 383 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: Only one thing is certain. The family search is far 384 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 2: from over. 385 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 5: I was just trying my best to be strong for everybody, 386 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 5: because as much as I wanted to or needed to mourn, 387 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 5: I knew that was still going to be a job 388 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 5: to be done. 389 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: While the family clings to hope, the detectives have to 390 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: consider a different possibility. 391 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: Maybe Aaron wasn't the victim. Maybe he was the killer. 392 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 9: Is that why Alicia's body was the only one in 393 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 9: the house. Could Aaron have killed her and ran off 394 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 9: with the kids. 395 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: Quietly? The detectives decide to do a little digging into Aaron. 396 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 3: They find out he has some very serious charges in 397 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 3: his rap sheet. 398 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 11: Aaron had repons possession charges and a prior domestic violence assault. 399 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 3: That's definitely a red flag. 400 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 11: That type of behavior can escalate, and the one thing 401 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 11: about domestic abuse, it can escalate quickly, and it can 402 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 11: go places we never wanted to go. 403 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 2: When the detectives follow up with her family. They all 404 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: say Alicia and Aaron's marriage seemed fine. 405 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 4: Anytime I talked to Alicia about their relationship, it was 406 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 4: always something positive. 407 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 5: For the most part, she seemed happy. I thought they 408 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 5: were just going through the typical marriage stuff. 409 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 2: Or could there have been more going on than Alicia's 410 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: family knew. 411 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 12: A lot of the times women are hiding what happens. 412 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 12: So to the outside world they're thinking, hey, you guys 413 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 12: have a perfect relationship. You look good, and they don't 414 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 12: know what's going on behind closed doors. 415 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 2: The first indication of trouble comes when a friend of 416 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: Aaron's reaches out to detectives. 417 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 3: He tells the police Eron had confighted in him that 418 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: Alicia and Hill were fighting all the time. 419 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 10: He said she was talking about getting a divorce. 420 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 3: This could be a clear motive that he would try 421 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 3: to harbor. 422 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 2: But it's what the man says next that really grabs 423 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: the detective's attention. 424 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 3: Eron texted him a picture of a good and asked 425 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 3: him did he want to buy it? When was that 426 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 3: last Saturday thirty first, I guess. 427 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 9: That was only a few days before Alicia went missing, 428 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 9: likely right after she had. 429 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 3: Been killed, was eron trying to get rid of a 430 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 3: murder weapon. 431 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more of the Fatal Attraction podcast. 432 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: Detectives investigating the murder of twenty seven year old Alisha 433 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: Fump have learned that shortly after someone shot her six times, 434 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 2: her husband, Aaron Justice, was trying to sell a forty 435 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: caliber handgun. 436 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 11: That would lead an investigator to wonder if the ballistics 437 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 11: on that gun would be matched to what it was 438 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 11: found at the scene where Alisha was discovered. 439 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 7: To prove that it was the murder weapon, they would 440 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 7: need to get their hands on the gun. 441 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 3: Did you boy a gun? 442 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 11: Nah? 443 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,719 Speaker 3: I don't get involved in that kind of stuff. 444 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 2: It's a disappointment for detectives. But Aaron's friend does share 445 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: some other potentially valuable information. 446 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 11: Aaron may have been having. 447 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 4: An affair that might have been possibly why she wanted 448 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 4: to divorce him. 449 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 12: It definitely is a betrayal of emotion, of security of family. 450 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 4: She would have never wanted that going on in front 451 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 4: of her kids. 452 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 2: The fact that Alicia and Aaron's may may have been 453 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: in trouble is news to her family. 454 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 5: I was pretty surprised when I found out there wasn't 455 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 5: something where I felt like, Oh, they're on the verge 456 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 5: of getting a divorce. 457 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 8: I thought that she was in love and happy. 458 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 3: We see it a lot. 459 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 12: It's hush hush behind closed doors, and nobody in the 460 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 12: family really knows how bad it is. 461 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 2: The suspicion surrounding Aaron only grows once the family hears 462 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: rumors that he is alive and well. 463 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 3: According to the rumors, he was in Atlanta. 464 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 5: At that point, somebody in the family blurted out, he's running. 465 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: When detectives learn that Aaron maybe in Atlanta, they work 466 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 2: to track him down. 467 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: They're hopeful with finding him that the children will be 468 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 3: with him. 469 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: They stir their search by obtaining a subpoena for Aaron's 470 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: cell phone records. 471 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 11: Almost everyone has a cell phone, and cell phone seeks 472 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 11: can be traced. 473 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 7: After confirming that Arin was in Atlanta, the detectives contacted 474 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 7: the FBI. 475 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 5: There was a warrant issue for Aaron's arrests. 476 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: It wasn't long for federal agents to fire him and 477 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 3: chuck them down and bring them into customers. 478 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 9: Unfortunately, when they made the arrest, there was no sign 479 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 9: of Kayla or Christian. 480 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 2: With Aaron in custody. Investigators waste no time getting him 481 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: into an interrogation room. 482 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 6: I had immense hope that the police were going to 483 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 6: be able to get a location of the children out 484 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 6: of him. 485 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 2: But when questioned, Erin has little to say. 486 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: I don't know where they are. 487 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 7: He played dumb the entire time, like he had no 488 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 7: idea what happened to Alicia or the kids? 489 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 3: Talk about you should he should a whole lot to say. 490 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: He should be talking us who you gave your kids to. 491 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, like man, I don't know where they are. 492 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: Aaron not only denied knowing anything about the location of 493 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: the kids, he also denied being involved in Alicia's murder. 494 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, we know what is is did the little murder? 495 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: That's agaven he killed Alicia? 496 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 9: No, Aaron said that the last time he saw Alicia, 497 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 9: she was alive and angry. 498 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 5: He told the officer, she put me out, she asked 499 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 5: me for a divorce. 500 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 7: That confirmed some of what the detectives had heard from 501 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 7: their friends. 502 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: But they won't get confirmation on anything else. 503 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 10: You gonna take this to the grand So what's the 504 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 10: word everything? 505 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: No, I don't know everything. Your guilt. You're gonna take 506 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: a guilt to the great man. 507 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 11: I investigators tried very hard, but he still didn't give 508 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 11: up any meaning for information. 509 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 10: Killed your wife. 510 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 3: I know that for sure. My biggest issue I. 511 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 10: Would like to know what that child sam. 512 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 4: The fact that you're still holding on to where the 513 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 4: kids are that is like pure evil. 514 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: Can you tell me where you placed them? I didn't 515 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: place nowhere you had them lines. It will go with you, 516 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 3: I ever go with you. I'm not the one one 517 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 3: in that green little jumpsuit you are. 518 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: However, while Aaron is in custody, it's unclear if prosecutors 519 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: will be able to put him away for good. 520 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 9: The evidence again Aaron was entirely circumstantial at this point. 521 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: With Aaron stonewalling detectives and no new leads coming in, 522 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: it looks like the case may come apart until Alicia's 523 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: sister gets an unexpected tip about a friend of Aaron's 524 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: named Timothy Jones. 525 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 5: I got a call from someone who knew Timothy, and 526 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 5: they told me that Timothy had been going around the 527 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 5: neighborhood telling people that Aaron killed Alicia and he paid 528 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,479 Speaker 5: him to hide the body. 529 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: As soon as she's off the phone with the informant, 530 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 2: Alicia's sister contacts the lead detective. 531 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 5: I let him know what you know what they're telling me, 532 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 5: And within like a day or so, they had picked 533 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 5: Timothy up. 534 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 7: As soon as the detective sat him down for questioning, 535 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 7: he broke down. 536 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 8: Did a really bad thing. 537 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: Stay tuned as this tragic story continues to unfold. This 538 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: is the Fatal Attraction podcast. 539 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: Detectives investigating Alicia Fox's murder and the disappearance of our 540 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: two children are following up on a tip that a 541 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 2: man named Timothy Jones may be involved. 542 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 9: Timothy was an old friend of Aaron's. 543 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 11: They had reason to believe tim may know something about 544 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 11: what happened to Alicia. Therefore, they bring Tim in an 545 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 11: interview him. 546 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 3: Tim tells police Aaron called him to come over from 547 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,479 Speaker 3: Memorial Day weekend and help up with something. They've been 548 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 3: friends forever, so he didn't think much of it. But 549 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 3: when I got there something to see though, Aaron was 550 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 3: really upset, and he basically admitted that he had just 551 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 3: shot his wife. Did he say why? 552 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 8: Said they got in a fight. 553 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 3: Aaron told him that Alicia said that she wanted a divorce. 554 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 10: It's over. Yes, I'll show you over. 555 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 3: So he shot her. 556 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess, he said he blacked out. 557 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 3: Once he came to, he realized he was holding a 558 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 3: gun and Alicia was dead. 559 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 7: Whether Erin actually did blackout or not, Tim says he 560 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 7: has little doubt that Aaron did kill. 561 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 2: Alicia because after confessing, Tim says Aaron asked him to 562 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: help get rid of the evidence. 563 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 3: Did you yeah, man, I've known him since elementary school. 564 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 11: Tim had picked up some shell casings from the gun. 565 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 11: He threw them in the sewer. 566 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 2: He says he also helped Aaron load Alicia's body into 567 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 2: a rental truck. 568 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 9: That was the same truck that neighbors had seen outside 569 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 9: of the house. 570 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 3: Just after helped Eric get rid of the body, He 571 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 3: said Aaron paid him. 572 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 5: He paid him Alicia's jewelry, which was a pair of 573 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 5: cardiery glasses and a watch. 574 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 2: However, Tim says he doesn't know what's become of Alicia's 575 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 2: two children. 576 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 3: He says when he left Aaron's house that day, the 577 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 3: children were still alive. 578 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 2: It appears he is telling the truth. 579 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 7: Detectives had Tim take a polygraph test and he passed. 580 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 2: Then detectives take Tim back to the crime scene where 581 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 2: they recover four forty caliber shell care from the storm drain. 582 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 9: That was the same caliber as the gun that Aaron 583 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 9: was trying to sell around the time of the murder. 584 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 2: With the evidence against him piling up, detectives are confident 585 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 2: they can now secure a conviction against Aaron Justice. While 586 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: Aaron sits in the Wayne County jail awaiting trial, the 587 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 2: search for Alicia's missing children continues. 588 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 6: We searched houses and commercial buildings and streets. We even 589 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 6: did grid searches of forests and rivers. 590 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 3: Months go by with no trace of Kayla or Christian, 591 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 3: and unfortunately they were never found. 592 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 7: With nobodies and nothing but circumstantial evidence against Erin. He 593 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 7: was never charged with anything regarding their disappearance. 594 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 2: And he won't stand trial for Alicia's murder either. 595 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 5: When trial came and we got to court and the 596 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 5: judge told us that he had accepted a plea deal, 597 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 5: it was a surprise to everybody. 598 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 9: With Tim set to testify against him, Aaron's attorney probably 599 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 9: saw conviction coming. 600 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: In September of twenty fifteen, Aaron Justice pleads guilty to murder. 601 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 4: When he took the plea deal, I don't remember him 602 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 4: showing any kind of emotion or remorse. He was just 603 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 4: sitting there like he just did not care, like something 604 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 4: is really wrong with him, and he's just sitting there, 605 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 4: not crying, not looking like he had any remorse for 606 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 4: doing this. It made me want to beat him, honestly, 607 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,399 Speaker 4: just jump over the thing, grabs something and like beat 608 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 4: him with it. 609 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 8: Or something, because it pisses me off and it makes 610 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 8: me so angry. 611 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 2: In return for his plea, Aaron is sentenced to between 612 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 2: forty five and eighty years in prison. 613 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 5: When most people here that a defendant received forty five 614 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 5: to eighty years, they think it's justice. I don't think that. 615 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 5: I don't think that forty five to eighty years of 616 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 5: not being able to walk in the free world is 617 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 5: I don't think it's suffices for what he did. 618 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 2: And no amount of prison time can bring back the 619 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 2: woman he took away. 620 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 5: Alicia was everything to a lot of people. She was 621 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 5: nearly the backbone to my family. She kept a lot 622 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 5: of us together, so much so that losing her has 623 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 5: kind of changed the dynamic of my family. She was 624 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 5: everybody's favorite, and I want people to remember Alicia for 625 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 5: her energetic personality and her laugh and just as she 626 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 5: was someone that you can always count on. 627 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 4: Alicia never deserved anything like this. She was just so sweet, 628 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 4: she loved everything, and she was definitely a strong woman 629 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 4: for sure. 630 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 2: But most of all, the family wishes the prosecutors would 631 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 2: have put one more condition on Aaron's plea deal. 632 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 4: It definitely should have involved him telling us where the 633 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 4: kids are, because like, he takes the plea deal and 634 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 4: then he just goes to prison, but what about the kids? 635 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 8: And it makes me. 636 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 4: Really really angry because it's like they think they did 637 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 4: their job, but really no, because you still have two 638 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 4: missing children. We're out here still suffering, like we cannot 639 00:38:59,000 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 4: move on. 640 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,479 Speaker 6: It is just very troubling that there's a plea deal 641 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 6: and he has information yet it's not being shared. There 642 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 6: should never be a plea deal until all the information 643 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 6: is out on the table. 644 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 4: I definitely still have hope and faith that one day 645 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 4: we will find the kids, but as time go on, 646 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 4: it gets harder and harder. The feeling of not knowing 647 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 4: makes it a thousand times for us because we just 648 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 4: don't know. 649 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 5: Kaylin and Christian meant everything to Alisha, and if there's 650 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 5: anybody out there who has any information that can help 651 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 5: bring them home to the family that Alisha loved. I'm 652 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 5: sure that it will bring Alicia some peace. 653 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 2: If you have any information on the disappearance of Kayla 654 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:04,320 Speaker 2: Hunter or Christian Justice, please contact Crime Stoppers of Michigan 655 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 2: at one eight hundred seven seventy three two five eight seven. 656 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: Love should never lead to emotional or physical pain. Just 657 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: as we cherish one another at the beginning of a relationship, 658 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 1: we should extend that same level of respect when parting waves. 659 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: Many people wear mask in relationships, but when their mask 660 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: come off, deeper truths about those around us can be revealed, 661 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: sometimes revealing the presence of harmful individuals far too late. 662 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: As time goes on, the sense of urgency increases. Alicious 663 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 1: family's distress creates palpable tension within the community of loved ones. 664 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: Everyone is eager to know the whereabouts of alicious children. 665 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 1: Calls for answers continue to echo throughout the group, which 666 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: remains hopeful with each passing moment. Coming up on the 667 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: next episode of the Fatal Attraction Podcast. 668 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 2: Years after her first marriage failed, she finally found true love. 669 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 3: She found her prince Charming. 670 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 5: This is the wind she was looking for. She hoped 671 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 5: lived happily ever after. 672 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 2: But ever after. Wasn't all that long, said my wife. 673 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: It's winter in Baltimore, Maryland, and a shocking crime has 674 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: sent ripples of fear and disbelief throughout the nation. 675 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 3: A couple in love becomes. 676 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: The target of a random act of violence, raising questions 677 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: about the nature of this horrific event. Was it truly 678 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 1: a random crime, or did it stem from a love 679 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: that spirrowed into darkness. We'll learn more coming up on 680 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: the next episode of the Fatal Attraction Pipe Cast. We 681 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: will see you in the next episode. 682 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 7: Mm hmm.