WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Show - Jones Angell Interview 

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<v Speaker 2>us weekly. We get to do a little combination football-basketball

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<v Speaker 2>conversation right now. because the Tar Heels have an exhibition

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<v Speaker 2>on the hoop side tomorrow in Greensboro against USC. And,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, we've been talking about it, a game where

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<v Speaker 2>we think, bone, they might be able to pull off

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<v Speaker 2>an upset against Pittsburgh on Saturday in football. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it all with the play-by-play voice of the Heels

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<v Speaker 2>on the Tar Heel Radio Network, Jones Angel. Jones, what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on, man? How you feeling this week? About to

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<v Speaker 2>get busy for you, huh?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a busy stretch upcoming for sure, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to be with you as always.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think this starts eight straight weeks with both

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<v Speaker 1>teams competing for Carolina. So it'll be a busy stretch

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<v Speaker 1>and heels in USC, as you mentioned, seven o'clock tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be on the air at six for that one

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<v Speaker 1>from Greensboro and then jumping up to Pittsburgh for, for

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<v Speaker 1>what is a big game. Yeah. I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity for Carolina to, to pick up a big win,

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<v Speaker 1>not just in the league, but against a good team

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<v Speaker 1>on the road. And if you play, if you're the

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<v Speaker 1>Tar Heels in this conversation, if you play like you

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<v Speaker 1>did for three quarters of the Clemson game and for

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<v Speaker 1>this Notre Dame game, you're going to put yourself in

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<v Speaker 1>a position to have a chance to win. But all

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<v Speaker 1>of that remains to be seen. But a busy weekend upcoming,

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to a ton of Tar Heels for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you doing both games, Jones? Are you doing the

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<v Speaker 2>Friday night exhibition and then going to Pitt after that? Yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll be in Greensboro tomorrow night. We've got, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Hansborough and Tyler Zeller, our two Tylers, are splitting

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<v Speaker 1>the duties again this year as far as the analyst.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Hansborough will be with me tomorrow night in Greensboro.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to jump up to Pittsburgh after that and be

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<v Speaker 1>there with the Tar Heels on Saturday morning. So, quick turnaround,

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<v Speaker 1>but should be a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Jones, why don't you do some work once in a while, right?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? Stay busy.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see if we can knock it out this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I tricked them into paying me to talk about football

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<v Speaker 1>and basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>We've done that, too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you categorize the result against Notre Dame? Because

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<v Speaker 3>we have some fans that are saying the fight, they fought,

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<v Speaker 3>they hung well. Other fans are saying the score wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>that close by the end. What's your view of how

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<v Speaker 3>to look at that game and the end result?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great question because I think ultimately– well, two things.

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<v Speaker 1>I think ultimately– you can take away from that game

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to from the Tar Heels, in my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you went in thinking this is a team

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<v Speaker 1>that's getting better and that's fighting and it's not there yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can see it, you can walk away with that.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you walked into that game going, man, the

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<v Speaker 1>Tar Heels, I don't understand why they can't compete with

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<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame, and they should be on that level, then

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<v Speaker 1>you can see that too. For me, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was a game– and we talked about this last week–

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<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame is fully formed. This is a team that

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<v Speaker 1>has a really high level of talent. They're deep. They

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<v Speaker 1>have a bunch of veterans. They're just really good. They're

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<v Speaker 1>a playoff team. They're a championship-level team right now. Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>is not right now. But what the Tar Heels are doing,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, are getting better. And you can see

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<v Speaker 1>it now. And that was the thing last year, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all know this.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't just a bad record. It was that it

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<v Speaker 1>looked so bad. But now you can see it for Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see what the goal is, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>see that they're making some progress. It is not finished.

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<v Speaker 1>They need more talent in areas. They need more depth

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<v Speaker 1>in certain areas. But you can see what they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do now. And so for Carolina... You've got to understand,

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<v Speaker 1>can you keep taking steps? You're not going to magically

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<v Speaker 1>become Notre Dame this week against Pittsburgh. You're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to magically become Notre Dame next week against Duke. But

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<v Speaker 1>what you can do is keep taking steps to get–

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<v Speaker 1>farther along in that process.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where the heels are. There's definitely progress being made.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no doubt about it. I like them getting Easter

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<v Speaker 2>involved in the receiving game. Sadler a bit. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to see more of that. So let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>Pitt game. Because I'm kind of on the side, Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>where like, I thought it was, that's pretty solid effort

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<v Speaker 2>against Notre Dame. I kind of thought they can build

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<v Speaker 2>off that. And now they get a Pitt team that

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<v Speaker 2>had the emotional win against in Blacksburg, but also is

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<v Speaker 2>starting a quarterback, a backup for the first time. What

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<v Speaker 2>are the keys for Carolina to come out of Pitt

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<v Speaker 2>with a big upset?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's one that's kind of always the key against Pitt,

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<v Speaker 1>and that, of course, is being able to handle their

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<v Speaker 1>defensive pressure, right? Like, I mean, Pat Narduzzi's been the

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<v Speaker 1>same ever since he's been there, and before that as

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive coordinator, where he is going to try and

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<v Speaker 1>pressure you into mistakes. And so can you handle that

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<v Speaker 1>pressure up front? Can you handle the physicality in the secondary?

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to grab you. They're going to hold you.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll get some flags, but not every time is it

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<v Speaker 1>going to be flagged. And so you've got to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to not lose your cool and manage that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a receiver, if you are Jordan Shipp or

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<v Speaker 1>Shamar East or whoever, you've got to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>manage that. So that's number one. Then you flip it

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<v Speaker 1>to the other side. And that's where Holden Gerner comes in,

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<v Speaker 1>their new quarterback. And you hate it for Mason Heinschel,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, terrific player. You never like to see anybody

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<v Speaker 1>get hurt and a big blow for Pitt. So how

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<v Speaker 1>does Gerner, though, who's a veteran guy, highly recruited out

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<v Speaker 1>of high school, but just it's never really taken hold

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<v Speaker 1>at the college level. How does he react and how

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<v Speaker 1>can Carolina try to make him uncomfortable? We saw this

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<v Speaker 1>against Clemson. Carolina did a good job against Tate Reynolds

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, but then all of a sudden he

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<v Speaker 1>got in a rhythm and he was effective for the

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<v Speaker 1>Tigers a few weeks ago. Can Carolina make Garner uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>and force him into mistakes? A big point of this game,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>Jones, how impressed have you been with Jelani Thurman at

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<v Speaker 3>tight end? This guy has turned into an absolute wagon,

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<v Speaker 3>as the youth people say.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing, though, guys. Ship and Thurman, we know

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<v Speaker 1>what they are, right? They're ACC-level guys, and we've seen that.

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<v Speaker 1>The two of them have 36 receptions between the two

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Ship has 20, and Thurman has 16. The

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the team, the rest of Carolina's team has 28.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you look at the targets, and it's about 50-50.

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<v Speaker 1>Thurman and Shipp have 55. The rest of the team

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<v Speaker 1>has 57. So it's clear that, A, Carolina trusts throwing

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<v Speaker 1>the ball to those two players, and then, B, it's

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<v Speaker 1>clear why, because they're producing. You've got to have somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else produce. They've got to find, whether it's Shamar Easter,

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<v Speaker 1>who Mac mentioned earlier, or C.J. Sadler, or shoot, Jaden Jefferson,

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<v Speaker 1>who took that second-half kickoff to the house. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got great speed. Can you find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>get him involved? Carolina's just got to find some other guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that Shipp and Thurman aren't good. They're very good.

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<v Speaker 1>But at some point, you've got to have some other

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<v Speaker 1>guys available to help you be successful.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk hoops real quick before we let you go.

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<v Speaker 2>You are doing that exhibition tomorrow against USC. Heels fans

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<v Speaker 2>are going to get a first look at this team. Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>you will definitely need all your notes on all the

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<v Speaker 2>new players and where they're coming from. We talked to

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<v Speaker 2>Coach Malone yesterday. I'm just extremely impressed. He doesn't need

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<v Speaker 2>me to say I'm impressed. I mean, look at his

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<v Speaker 2>coaching resume today. And I'm very intrigued to see this mix.

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<v Speaker 2>I think like for being up against it, right. With timing,

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<v Speaker 2>when he got the job, I think it was a

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<v Speaker 2>really good effort to put the roster together. What, what

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<v Speaker 2>are some, who are the guys that you're most intrigued by?

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<v Speaker 2>What are some of the things you're most intrigued to

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<v Speaker 2>watch for tomorrow night?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, not just the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Coach Malone was hired the day the transfer

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<v Speaker 1>portal opened, but the fact that, you know, all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden people start showing them some guys in the

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<v Speaker 1>transfer portal and he doesn't know who these guys are.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he was not anticipating coming into college basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>So to be able to put the kind of staff

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<v Speaker 1>together that he has, which I think is really impressive,

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<v Speaker 1>and then just get this roster formed, it's not perfect yet.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's pretty darn talented for when you

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<v Speaker 1>consider kind of, as you said, that he was up

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<v Speaker 1>against it a little bit this particular year. I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>excited to see Terrence Brown, the guard from transfer from Utah.

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<v Speaker 1>Terrence can really score. The question is going to be,

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<v Speaker 1>can he kind of manage the game a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>as well? He averaged two and a half turnovers a

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<v Speaker 1>game last year at Utah. He can't do that at Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>But he also can put the ball in the bucket, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he has 1,300 points in the last two seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>So he can score. Matt Abel, who was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the sixth man for NC State last year, he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to take an elevated role. How does he manage going

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<v Speaker 1>from 18 minutes or so to 32 minutes or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is? Neil Avdolos has as much potential as anybody

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<v Speaker 1>in the ACC. You saw flashes of it last year

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<v Speaker 1>at Virginia Tech. Can he become a more consistent player

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<v Speaker 1>where he's not having to put up 33 points every

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<v Speaker 1>game like he did against Providence last year for the Hokies,

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<v Speaker 1>but can he be a 16-point-a-game kind of guy, something

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<v Speaker 1>like that? I think all that's worth watching. And the

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<v Speaker 1>big question is in the post. Cameron Fins will not

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<v Speaker 1>be available for this game for Carolina, still working out

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<v Speaker 1>the eligibility. for that extra year if he is or

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<v Speaker 1>isn't available, changes the feel for Carolina this season. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you guys this. Remember the name, Sion Keita.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very young. He hasn't been playing basketball that long,

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<v Speaker 1>but he is incredibly talented. And I will be interested

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<v Speaker 1>to see where this young man who's been playing professionally

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<v Speaker 1>in Spain as a teenager, how does he, by January

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<v Speaker 1>or something, what does he look like? Because I think

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<v Speaker 1>he can be an incredibly productive player for Carolina.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Jones, I had a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>run-in yesterday with Jared Stevenson during media days.

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<v Speaker 2>Jared Stevenson was like the nicest guy in there.

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<v Speaker 1>He probably apologized if you guys don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>No, Jones, you'll never believe how I was treated by

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<v Speaker 3>him yesterday. All I simply said was, Jared, as a

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<v Speaker 3>Duke fan, and I was going to ask him a question,

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<v Speaker 3>that guy couldn't stop laughing.

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<v Speaker 2>He was laughing.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, he kept laughing at me being a dude. I

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't even ask my question. I've never been treated like

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<v Speaker 3>this in my life, Jones, by Jared. I thought he

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<v Speaker 3>was a nice guy. Mac, how long did it take

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<v Speaker 3>me to get Jared to stop laughing? About 45 seconds? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>All I simply said was, as a Duke fan, and

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<v Speaker 2>this guy was going crazy. He was very nice about it, though.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a very happy guest on the show. He

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<v Speaker 2>did say sorry by the end. He was amused. He

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<v Speaker 2>was amused by that. All right, Jones, have a good fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Make some fun out of this busy weekend. I know

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<v Speaker 2>Tar Heel fans be listening. They can listen on the

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<v Speaker 2>Tar Heel Radio Network, which includes WBT, right down the hall.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Jones. Appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks, guys. Talk to you soon.