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Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Bob Brooks joins me right now. He is the host

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Speaker 1: of American Agenda over there at Newsmax. Pennsylvania Guy, penn

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Speaker 2: judge your own assessments. Here. I laid it out for you.

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Speaker 1: But when you lay it out to rupt for a moment, Bob,

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Speaker 2: There's been a many cases the one down in Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Talking to Bob Brooks of Newsmax. Catch him every single

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Speaker 1: Bob Brooks underscore NmX for Newsmax. On the Twitter x Bob,

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